The worst rider ever?
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- čas přidán 16. 04. 2023
- In this video I'll feature a rider with serious problems, overcome those problems with proper technique.
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Motor Man- This was me! Thank you for your forbearance in teaching us students who lack any understanding but really want to learn. i went through one class and failed. After which, the instructor insulted me. It took me a few years to get back on a bike and try again, but i did and went to a different school. The teachers actually teach as you do and i caught on like this person. Just did my 2nd ride to Tallahassee from Fort Lauderdale. Congrats to this student as well 👏.
Awesome job!
@@ginogina4589 Thank you so much!!
Way to go! I genuinely appreciate an instructor who doesn't just give up on a struggling student. That's a real gift and blessing.
Great and true comment. I have heard of schools that could be quite rude and impatient. I can't wait to attend one of these classes! :)
I was very bad when i was new. Luckily i was provided a training motorcycle equipped with good crash protection, i dropped it atleast 10x in the first hour. I even dropped it once forgetting to put my kickstand down. To experienced people it might seem funny but when u are new it happens
@@Kevin97587 forgetting to put the kick stand down happens to experienced ridders too, sit there talking or playing with your phone before dismounting and forgetting you haven't put the stand down happens. It's not the worst thing you can do on a bike, just an embarrassing one!
Yep, what Noahmercy said. I appreciate Motorman's efforts to work with someone like this rider. 'Cuz, i am like that rider. Just a mental block, I guess. But we keep trying, and i appreciate those who keep trying to help us.
The electric cart is a great idea for helping students navigate a course, until they are use to the layout! 👍🏾
That's what I ride, a 2021 Challenger, and U-Turns are a problem. I'm getting better because I'm teaching my neighbor slow ride maneuvers on his first bike. I take what you taught me here and on the DVD I purchased from you, and I'm teaching him. This has also made me a better rider. Thank you for posting these safety videos.
I went to a Police Motorcycle Rodeo this past weekend. Those guys are awesome Bike Riders!
Such great info Jerry. I have 5,000 sq meters of asphalt in my driveway and yard. I bought one of your videos, and every spring I set up my pilons and practice. A great way to sharpen up skills that dull over 6 months of winter. Thank you!
I agree with other commenters. You are a true professional and a gentleman for encouraging and giving "tough" love to people who aren't quite up to the task. I own a bike but never rode it because I don't know how. LOL. I had surgery the past two summers so hopefully this year I'll actually take that rider's course and at least get my feet wet. Otherwise, that motorcycle in the garage will just go up for sale. Thank you sir for this encouraging video.
Jerry! I love your attitude! The student is here, that means they want to learn. I spent years teaching pilots, both private and airline pilots. In all that time I only had two people who could not get it. They seemed to lock up and not hear anything that was being said. The skills, while not the same are very similar to riding a bike.
I have known many good pilots and many good riders who didn’t have the skills or mindset to teach. You sir are a teacher.
IMO, the coolest thing about this course is the perfect 360 circle you can leave on the parking lot - in either direction -when you have the rear brake groaning, the clutch muting the rumble, the bars at full lock and the floor board scraping your circular legacy. Damn, I miss that '09 100 year Anniversary bike. Not the job, the bike.
Hi Motorman! I'm 53 yrs old and been "on the job" for 8 years! It's been my dream, since I was hired, to be on a motorcycle. I was awarded a spot in my services traffic unit this past fall and today I finished my first day of a 2 week motorcycle course with 25 other officers! Only dumped it once!! I've been watching your videos on a daily basis since I found out I'd be going on the course - back in February. Wow!! Have they ever been helpful!! Thanks so much and keep up the good work!!
Congrats old man! I'm a 54-year-old rider who graduated motor school 25 years ago when I was a younger officer! I'm still on the job but assigned in the "special operations" section within the dept now. I'm planning on doing two more years before I hang it up, maybe three. There are some openings within the motor unit soon and I'm thinking of returning and finishing my 27 years so far career there. I have been still practicing weekly every opportunity I get since leaving the unit. I also help other civilian riders work on their slow speed skills on Sundays. Good luck to you!
Glad to have helped.
Another great video Jerry! 👍Me and my father in law watch your videos together from Pennsylvania and have started riding together while practicing the slow speed techniques you teach.
I'd like to take Jerrys course. I just ordered beautiful & EXPENSIVE crash guards and it's better to damage them than the motorcycle, but man I would still hate to scratch up the shiny & new & not cheap, guards.
PATIENCE & DETERMINATION TO HELP THE STUDENT SUCCEED... That's the model of a good teacher.
Believe me, he pushed my patience to the limit. 😁
Nice to see an example of improvement & encouragement & his smile getting thru without hitting cones. I think we often get stuck on idea of perfection, when it's improvement that's key when starting out. And a nice tip on how to check the turning radius--even more kudos the fellow was able to figure out the U-turns.
Did my first set of figure 8s. Scary. Also trail breaking on the bends, wow. I did a couple of bends and slowed down about 10 k from 80k. I found with just a little bit of front brake I could maintain the 80. Also i found myself telling me to look where I was going. It makes a difference if you listen to your instructor and have him talking to you while you ride. Figure 8s in a 40' circle each end. Idle to high moving at 19 kph. Your in my head while I ride. Fantastic videos. Thanks for the education.
Thanks for the tip on how to find the turning radius of your bike. Your videos are very helpful. I'm working towards taking your course this summer, but I still need to practice. You're the best Motorman!
I moved up from 10 years on a DR650 to a Yamaha XT1200Z. I found your channel a couple of years ago and it's helped me a great deal. Thanks for making these videos Jerry, I live in Canada and would never be able to make it down to your course. You helped shape my perception of riding bigger bikes and helped with my riding confidence and willingness to keep learning and practicing. I ended up taking a trip across Canada last year and made it home in one piece thanks to channels like yours. God bless and keep up the amazing work
Thanks for another excellent, complimentary video. I never get bored or tired of watching and listening. I bought a bunch of your lessons on DVDs in 2003 and later, ever though I'd been riding since about 1962, and never regretted it. I still have more to learn, so I'll keep looking for your next lesson.
I enjoy and get a lot from the overhead shots, and would like to see a big arrow attached to or painted on to the helmet of the rider so that I could better see just when the head turns.
Freaking great to watch that guy get the encouragement he needs! You really can see them change! From experience; over and over again until it's natural is the only way; but you need good instruction.
It's called and been written as a person not accepting their own skill-level and the vehicle skill-set!
Thanks for the riding shares.
Love the smile on his face when he finally made it through the intersection.
Man, you're a great teacher! I remember my classes were so hard for me. I was definitely in the lower 25% for most of the classes. When i learned to feather that rear break, it made a world of difference. And even more than driving a car, you learn and get so much better with practice. Parking lots, cones, whatever you can do. Just takes time.
Very interesting, I just got a Challenger and keep telling my wife that it feels like I have to go a lot wider than I am used to on my other bikes. So its not my imagination!
It also looked like that rider could use from reduced reach bars to keep him from having to lean forward to turn.
Have had my Challenger for a year and half. It is not just you lol. The clutch doesn't help either very little friction zone
When I was 16 here in Canada we had to do these cones ,and also pick your bike up ,and maneuver it backin it up… lots have changed and the program should have stayed intact… too many accidents due to the loss of proper training… great video 👍
Thanks for the video Motorman and the work you do to help everyone learn to ride 👍
Hello from here in Scotland, I'll be honest, I really struggled with my maneuvers when I got older and wiser and came from my GSXR1100 to my new to me fully dressed VN1500 NOMAD. Just a huge huge change in everything, but if you stick with it and work on it and don't ever give up until you nail it, you'll get there. Everything takes time. I can fling her around like my favorite dancing partner nowadays.
I’m new to riding and definitely learning a lot from your videos. Thank you so much!!
I watch a lot of motorcycle vids, man there are a lot of bikers out there that could benefit from courses such as these, your patience is admirable along with instilling confidence in the rider, they should do well.
Motorman is the best teacher I've ever seen one day I will be in Florida at the class because to become a great rider you learn from a great teacher and I learn how to ride better from ride like a Pro thanks Motorman..
That was impressive.. first bit of that video.. All I kept thinking was, why would someone spend that much money on what I know that motorcycle cost. and be that bad. But as you say they were determined. Much improved by the end of the video. Good job :)
Ego. People are afraid someone might see them on a Rebel 250. It has been my opinion for 40 yrs that people should learn on a dirt bike.
You can tell from his shoulders that he's super tense and uncomfortable, his arms are almost locked straight. The improvement was pretty amazing!
It's hard for me to imagine to be that bad riding a motorcycle. It's so intuitive. I went straight from my bicycle to a motorcycle when I was 16 and it felt no different. Riding a motorcycle seems like a natural thing to do.
Great resilience both ways… really fabulous improvement in no time!
Great stuff I have purchased a bunch of videos msf cones and drop guards. Now all I need is the time and space to train more thanks for all you do for us
That Dude got really good! Wow what an improvement! 😎👍
Great video, nice to see the progress. When he suddenly made it my first thought was this must be another guy.
Very good improvement! And very good coaching/encouragement. Good stuff!
Jerry !, ...Jerry !... Jerry !!.... like someone else said .. great encouragement helped this guy believe he can do it.. granted, he has to feel that way for himself as well.. but I think the Smile he gave at the end of one of the completed runs is worth the continued encouragement and belief that someone can get better with determination.. (and may mr. Springer rest in peace )
Quite the transformation. Hope he practices and comes back to class. He will be do grateful he did. Also love this biker's no quit attitude.
I took MSF course months ago as a rider with no prior riding experience thinking : how hard can it be? First day of actual riding was miserable . Instructors were great but I think they figured that everyone had at least some idea how to ride. Well, I didn't and so few others and we all struggled. I was debating whether to go the next day or not, lol . I ended up watching CZcams videos that night to try to figure out what I was doing wrong. I simply didn't fully understand how to mesh gears and work that clutch and throttle. The next day something clicked and I improved so much that several people in my class didn't believe that I had no prior experience. Out of my 12 person group I was one of only 3 who passed riding skills test. Instructors try their best to explain but sometimes got to figure it out on your own. These classes are so valuable though.
The MSF course is designed to teach beginner skills to people who don't know a clutch from a hole in the ground. That's why they start off by showing what and where the controls are and what each control does. The average failure rate in MSF beginner classes is about 3 out of 12. Certainly not just 3 pass, and 12 fail.
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What a great learning tool.
Don't give up. Press on!
Jerry your a master .. best of all you have a kind heart
Thank you for this, especially the last part as I am a Challenger rider.
Jerry you are the best the smile on the riders face says it all
Good to see that smile when it finally clicked for him.
I wish I was near you. I've been riding for a year, but still have some issues. You're videos are very helpful!
I have training locations around the country, just opened up another one in the Albany NY area. Go to www.ridelikeapro.com and click on OTHER TRAINING LOCATIONS to see if you're close to any of them.
Did the tip first day of this season. Amazing how fast your skills get rusty. Haven’t ridden since October. 😂 it happened at 2 to 3 miles an hour. Been riding since I was 14 now 62. It happens, pick up your bike and carry on. Lesson learned again.
You should use the shot from the sky to demonstrate Where they should be riding. Like you said, looking across the parking lot at a sea of cones is different than the sky view.
I show the riders a diagram of the exercise before they ride thru it, demonstrate it 3 times, and lead them thru it. Ya think that's not enough to make 6 turns?
@@motorman857 I think it’s a visual thing. I know you going “See those 30 orange cones, You turn left at the one and right at the other” Would not translate.
@@aucklandsadventures Actually, it's, make a left at the green tipped cone, then a right at the next green tipped cone, then a left at the next green cone, ETC. It doesn't get much easier than that.
That's what ya get if ya NEVER, EVER, QUIT!! Way to go buddy!!
Jerry awesome sir! Good job for the rider, he didn't give up, as always Thank you Jerry, God Bles Be Safe!
Rode for 50 years. 40 of that on Wings and Ultras. Had to give it up for health reasons. That man has a whole lot of scooter. It won't respond to body english. But he's tough. He'll get there from pure grit. Also needs to keep back straight and shoulders aligned. That will make it easier to head track.
Thanks for the video.
Points everyone could use.
Excellent teacher.
Ego writing checks that the skill can’t cash
It always comes down to the basics….😎
I like the patience you show, I just got my beginners license here in Australia, and haven't even chosen a bike yet, I reckon I'll be like this guy, get there eventually.
awesome video as always , i been riding since 92 but i'm sure that there is room for improvement. One day i would love to take a course with you to make me a better rider 👍
I have to get to a class like this and have my lovely bride go through it with me! Great video as usual!
Wow, what an incredible improvement!!!
Trail braking alone gave me a drastic improvement in slow speed maneuvering. It has also helped me out going through some twisties when my timing or line was a little off...and I'm maybe moving a little fast.
I love your patience Jerry .
Tell that to my wife. 🤣
Yep! I teach the BRC and getting students to turn their head off one of the hardest things to get them to do and they're only riding our little 300 pound 200cc bikes!
It's good he's getting scratches. It means he'll loosen up after those first few scratches and you forget about protecting the bike and focus on riding... Which will in turn protect the bike.
Nice. Looks like my last session where my cone setup was like sixteen feet, because I didn’t ask how far to set them
Good to know about the Indian challenger!
The worst? Hold my bud light!
If you drop a motorcycle and it doesn't fall over, it's not a motorcycle...IMHO. If you have the money to buy a 2 wheel car, you can afford to buy a smaller motorcycle to learn how to ride. Ego equals death to new riders. But, you do you. 40yrs of riding and I still practice with a Rebel 250.
I have no control over what bike the students buy.
been riding all my life and I still love it more than ever. If you push on the right handlebar so it turns left (just barely), then an interesting thing happens, the bike leans to the right and turns right even though you are pushing left. You may be doing it without thinking but now think about it when you turn. There's a lot of non-intuitive lessons that can save your life when these skills become natural. The lean is what takes you into the turn and a turn right leans left so you go left.
It's important you get this correctly. Push forward on the right grip, the bike leans right and goes right. Push forward on the left grip, the bike leans left and goes left. czcams.com/video/QpqdNFltG4A/video.html
Excellent video
I appreciate that!
Great to see someone "get it".
🎉great 💯👍 video 📸 Jerry🎉
Oh yeah, you can see the lean angle of the bike increases all of a sudden.
I'm glad you got him goin! I really wish people would do these courses on cheaper, lighter bikes lol. Really just taking a course or two where they supply old cheap bikes should be enough and you don't gotta worry about dropping those (which is kind of amazing how much confidence that can give you haha). I get it though, people want their big cool bikes, I just don't want to see them hurt themselves or their bike
The students bring their own bike to the class. I have no control over what bike they bring.
Good job brother!
Dude has to get over fear of dropping it. Had same prob with my 22 RG Limited.
He had no fear of dropping the bike. He dropped it about 10 or 12 times during the class. His biggest problem was not turning his head and eyes.
I made all the mistakes and lived. I was traveling 40 mph looked in left mirror and the bars shook, I looked at my left hand and guess what, I made a 90 degree turn. I went across 3 lanes of traffic on a bridge and didn’t get hit by cars or logging trucks. The bike wouldn’t turn i turned my head to the left just in time to hit the 4 in x6 in steel rail. It threw me over the bars, I pushed the bars forward 6 inches, landed on my back in pedestrian walkway. Hurt left leg. My tire is leaking air , which may have contributed to what happened
It's a shame how easy it is to obtain a mc licence, your course should be mandatory.
We don't need more laws. Just more instructors. Insurance companies already provide incentive to take a MC course.
I want thank you ,I learned a lot from your videos.
You are welcome!
Gotta love watching a guy get his money's worth
Great teaching
Thank you!
Strong work 💪
Conan the Cone Slayer becomes Conan the Curve Slayer.
At least you have the big cones, I can’t stand the flat orange ones. I have a degree of color blindness and the orange disks on blacktop or cement are very hard for me to pickup and see. I do better with the stand up cones but forget about the green top. That too would be difficult for me. Before anyone says anything, I have no issues with traffic lights or seeing break lights on vehicles.
I give that guy credit for doing this class with a tank of a motorcycle. I need to take a class again. I haven’t taken a class with my Indian Chief. Unfortunately MSF no longer has classes in my area.
Go to ridelikeapro.com and click on other training locations. I have 20 RLAP schools around the country.
I wonder how he would've done with a smaller bike to learn the head/eyes combo.
Jerry, I ride a Honda VTX 1800R. The brakes are linked with the standard foot brake controlling the rear and 1/3 of the front. And it has a hydraulic clutch. What is your suggestion for slow speed turns? The clutch givea little feedback and even a bit too much foot brake will bring it to a complete stop.
It sounds like you need my Ride Like a Pro Experience video. That video will show you the exact steps you need to take to ride that VTX 1800 like a toy. Linked brakes have no affect on proper technique. czcams.com/video/avat3C3-u1c/video.html I had a VTX 1800 it will do 18ft turns all day long. IF you master the 3 techniques I show in great detail in the above video.
When I think about such trainings I become afraid maybe because of an accident I had a few years ago. I made exactly the same and used the clutch and breaks this hard that at the end the clutch did not seperate anymore maybe because of overheating. So I made it through a small hedge until I recognized whats going on, pushed the killswitch and went down with rear wheel locked. After the biked cooled down, it worked fine. As the mechanic opened the clutch a few days later, it was completely blue and he said that it overheated.
Wow, what difference to Germanys drivingschools; we have to do several units practice on road, bike skills and theoratical traffic education, then theoratical exam and 1h practical exam and last but not least graded driver license!
And yet German riders that come to my class, are just as lacking in skills as these riders.
18 feet is possible on the Challenger. I whip mine a round in that space easily, but you have to nearly scrape the boards to get it.
I’ve said it a million times and I’ll say it again. You have zero business being on the road until you have complete authority over the bike. Learn in the dirt. Crash in the dirt. Don’t move to the pavement until the operation of the bike is mindless and you can make it do whatever you want. Drivers aren’t paying attention. They will kill you. You must be paying attention to them and not how to execute a maneuver.
As a new rider that started learning on a 600cc Hornet, and got my full/unlimited license after just 4x2 hour lessons, I've gotta say I am quite shocked at the cone weaving at the beginning. Even as a new rider, I can see that this guy is going way too fast for his own ability and that is why he is failing. He has little to no control at stand-still speeds, i.e. he has no clue how to work his clutch in the most basic manner. Within 2 minutes of being showed the bike (no experience before at all with motorcycles) I did that exercise with less cone space and I touched the first cone, then never touched a cone again. The second exercise after doing the cone weaving twice, was to ride and stay on and within a 40 cm line for 55 meters and do it in more than 15 seconds. I never went under 20, and managed to do it as slow as 25 seconds with my average speed. With that said, I can now more or less balance the bike standing still. I lost about 1.5 KG of body weight with each 2 hour lesson. It was cone weaving, slow speed, high speed, high speed tight obstacle swerving etc. for two hours, non stop. Each time. I see so many American videos like these, and learners are being treated as babies. It is super uncomfortable.
With ALL of that said, I just got my license, and even though I can outride this person by a mile, and that is without being overly cocky, not by far, I STILL think I have years of riding to do to claim that I am a good rider. Just to put into perspective how shocked I am of the skills I see in these videos (but also the extremely.. passive teaching).
Doing these exercises on a 400 LB Hornet is a world of difference on a 900 LB motorcycle.
Awesome!
Yes, the turning deal is always hard it is actually too hard and should be changed....depending on the bike I have a chopper I could not do the test because it is too difficult for the chopper to do and I'm only talking about the cones and turning. Had to rent a smaller bike in order to pass...
Good training the instructor I had was a jerk and very inpatient
Still really impressive seeing him throw that beast around.
I will get lost too with too many cones and all those lines in the pavement and have NO idea nor remember exactly how to follow every single turn
99 out of 100 students have no problem understanding where they have to go. When rider look down at the ground instead of where they want to go, then they have a problem.
Does haveing a larger diameter tire (26 inch) front wheel make it harder to do slower maneuvers or is it roughly the same as the stock rim/tire?
Yes it would be more difficult.
Your amazing Instructor 100%
I appreciate that!
Why so many riders are on bikes way beyond their ability to handle. This guy is on a 900lb bagger which will only get him hurt or killed on the road, even taking this course will not make him an expert rider magically overnight,