For drive reversal, my guess that if you are not in throw range after blocking, you probably can't go from light to medium either. You most likely only have a light into special move punish.
I think the idea with dReversal being -6 and getting more pushback is that it might be hard to punish or even safe on block, but if you parry it you're still close enough to hit them with a medium/light. So it might force the player on offense to think twice if he thinks you'll dReversal him, because he'll have to do something like light into parry to actually bait the dReversal. An offensive parry like that might even lose to a delay tech.
I remember now that UMA spaced Juri's drive reversal and ended up outside the range of Luke's cr.mp. After CapCup X Chris labbed it and found out you had to microwalk for 1 frame to be able to connect with cr.mp if Juri does a max range drive reversal. That is now literally a frame perfect punish since 5f cr.mp +1f microwalk equals 6f exactly. Anyone without a 5f medium would be limited to 4f lights to punish. So wakeup drive reversal would be slower but a lot safer than Juri's od dp. Even better for her, she now has two different timings for her wake up reversals.
I'm expecting defensive hurtbox chances a la jps anti air. His nerf makes more sense in the context of a better drive reversal. I like the game already and I trust them. Very excited personally.
Akuma raw DR into demon gonna be a big problem considering he have faster walk speed than Chun Li. Juri is a top tier who already has great tools including very abusable fast dash forward and DR but Capcom thinks let's buff her because why not SMH. Nice to see Lily got buff though because she needs it. And I hope my boy Ed got buff like his cross up and his standing + crouch jab range / better hitbox.
9:59 “Why are you saying it’s good(for Blanka to have a shitty drive reversal)? Come on, guys, it’s Blanka!” I don’t think the downplay’s convincing anyone after what happened to Punk at Red Bull Kumite 💀
It's a universal mechanic. And even then it probably has some niche uses aside from his other wakeup or block options. If Blanka is blocking enemy pressure, he is already kinda losing, the whole point of the character is to go in and out of the enemy's range.
Juri bHK change might have some funky interactions with Lvl 2? Idk, I'm spitballing, and who even knows if that would be optimal. As it is, bHk doesn't get much use.
@gameclips5734 but it doesn't ground bounce, so unless there's a miscommunication or a bad translation going on, there's a lot more you can do with that.
@@wordcroutons yes but in SA2 juggles you're usually cancelling the first or second hit into another normal anyway. The ground bounce might let you drive rush after but i don't think that really adds to her SA2 combos, maybe if they got rid of the fact that it takes off a juggle point it could be useful.
Juri’s back heavy kick really isn’t good for AA. It’s best used when you have your opponent in the corner and you throw it out it will catch them trying to jump out. AND when spaced correctly you can whiff punish with it and since both hits of the move are cancelable you can bait DI and counter DI or super, DR, etc. I’ve tried using it as an anti-air and it’s so iffy like you said it screw’s me over more often than not
man so far these changes are so underwhelming im concerned that the first patch after waiting a whole year wont really be that impactful. These changes so far seems more like character adjustments that have been that way since the start
I'm not sure I understand the shade thrown at Manon's overhead. It's the second part of a completely predictable target combo. Not sure how it's a problem.
Even though this has nothing to do the with the video. How them moffos going to get rid of Ed's SFV cr hp easy anti-cross up, but keep it in SF6 for Luke!
Ngl I feel like the patch is being scrambled. When they released the 10 minute play test it feels like they had no idea what they wanted to do and are using it to gauge audiences reaction as well as create some type of hype. If the balance patch was really complete or even half way the biggest changes we would know off the bat because they'd just be too obvious. The fact that we don't see any change to Lilly's Windclad stocks or her gameplay loop in general feels like the intent was to leave her behind. No way they are trying to add new stuff NOW less than 16 days before the intended release. People who are fans of Lilly are gonna be disappointed. If there any buffs it maybe to her normals and one or two combo routes. We see that they allowed for some of her crappy moves to have cancels. The thing is ---- to me ---- that's not the problem with the character. If there's no major changes beyond what we see here then she's still gonna be bottom tier
The two Juri buffs in this video are made to an underused move and to fix a move that wasn't working as intended. I'd think of those more as quality of life changes. I'd barely consider those buffs (the divekick change is practically a bugfix). There's also possibly some Juri nerfs built in that haven't been found yet or that are in the works. Just sit tight.
I want all the shotos, cammy, and so many others to stop beating air attacks with st/cr jabs or st/cr short when a heavy air attacks are used. Only proper anti-airs should be able to counter them.
@@gameclips5734everywhere lol although I don’t think it shouldn’t be possible. A lot of characters can anti air with jab tho, just depends on the range
@@willkershisnik5893 Capcom deliberately fixed that in SFV and kept it that way for SF6, jabs are not an effective AA, but feel free to prove me wrong.
10:00 yea, F Blanka. Dude already had OD reversal and j.OD air ball that covers all possible options. Blanka is already A to S tier. In fact, he needs more nerf especially his lvl 2. His 4mk is also broken, which is freaking +8 on hit, +12 on punish counter or drive rush and +fking 16 on punish counter and drive rush. Its also +2 on block, +6 on blocked DR and is a good anti air button. He even has an oki after a blocked DR overhead. I don't mind he get other small buffs, but he at least needs nerf on his lvl2.
@@2gunzup07 🤦Dude... im not Japanese and my favorite player isnt even Japanese. I also think MenaRD is currently the best SF player. But that doesn't mean i don't think Blanka needs change. I listed down the proper argument for why i think he needs changes, nerfs to his lvl2 and i even welcome other possible buffs. No idea why you came in with this kind of comments, it makes you look dumb.
that shouldn't be your issue. drive system destroys neutral currently. The very fundamental aspect that made SF great. Raw DR. DR + fireball. DI being 3 armor, not minus and crumples on corner. DR needs to actually cost more and remove raw neutral DR. You should be only allowed to use it like an FADC with specials. but what do they do? just buff drive reversal. These are bandages. They do not resolve the fundamental issues. Instead of taking out throw loops and changing DR/DI. This tells me they are sticking to the RPS hyper offense 50/50 direction. That is not SF.
All that what you said sounds like a you problem and a skill issue. The fireball + DR is only an issue for me b/c I’m using Lily (who Capcom made the weakest in the game). Trust and believe if Laura was in game, that would be a non issue for me. Maining the right character makes all the difference in the world of SF6.
@@ReginaldVannison7777 You do realize that having to pick the right character to have an answer to universal mechanics is an example of bad balance right? Not that I even necessarily agree with the guy you’re responding to, but it’s just wild to say “skill issue” and “if only I was using a better character” in the same breath
@@Sakaki98 all characters not being equally on an even playing field as far as strength, power, speed & move set is an example of bad balancing. This is the reason why we keep seeing the same character matchups. Unlike Laura who has plenty of reserves…Lily doesn’t have anything as good as her condor spire…She’s at the bottom of the totem pole as the weakest character. You just can’t make Lily the slowest character…Give her one good move to get inside (that’s if it’s not DI or knocked out of it by a normal/special move) and expect her to excel. Nah, you got to give her way more than what she has. When it comes to the mechanics, I don’t complain about this, that and the third like others do…It doesn’t take much to satisfy me. All I said was Capcom need to come up with a creative way to deal with fireball + DR and that’s it. That’s why I can say what I said in the same breath. So if you want to talk about bad balancing, you should talk about it across the board, not just on mechanics.
@@justinamos9223 games been destroyed by casuals. They don't understand that DR/DI kills the fundamental aspect of what made street fighter unique and great. Its neutral. The game is just hyper offense, 50/50 rps, high damage and low defense. A trend of every modern fighting game. lowered Skill gaps
We don't know yet, It doesn't seem like Drive Rush nerfs, but all we have is word of mouth with no video evidence, not to mention we have no patch notes. Don't take these as law, I'm sure there's plenty of changes people wont find. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not, but I'm not dooming this patch until I see the official notes
What do you think wakeup drive reversal is? It's a safer OD reversal. I expect using OD reversals will fall out of favor even for those that have them.
If drive reversal isnt punishable by mediums, it's going to be an unmitigated disaster for balance. You thought perfect parry was annoying? Wait until every character has OD reversals that are unpunishable
@@MansMan42069 i mean yea but then its still rps. delay tech, dp and jump etc already exist. I think D rev wakeup will be useful and good but its not gonna be anything revolutionary
Bro sounds llike he's got 48 teeth in the front of his mouth - 'Camhcom"jk I really wish Ed got a buff in range or something, all his jabs feel really damn weak
I love how "doraiburashu" got mistransliterated as "dry brush" instead of "drive rush" 😆
I'm just happy Akuma is coming
Yes akuma is coming
Akuma be Akooming.
Ayoooooooo
He's coming soon 🥴
Akuuming
Akuma reminds me of the sculptor from sekiro
Not owl father?
@@c_bass1971 both
Im just happy he no longer seems to have that Lion's mane hair going. Or at least it doesnt look that obvious like in SF5
Demon of hatred fits him.
Both are incredibly bad ass. I like that.
For drive reversal, my guess that if you are not in throw range after blocking, you probably can't go from light to medium either. You most likely only have a light into special move punish.
Akumas vs screen will be 50 shades of rage.
I think the idea with dReversal being -6 and getting more pushback is that it might be hard to punish or even safe on block, but if you parry it you're still close enough to hit them with a medium/light.
So it might force the player on offense to think twice if he thinks you'll dReversal him, because he'll have to do something like light into parry to actually bait the dReversal.
An offensive parry like that might even lose to a delay tech.
I remember now that UMA spaced Juri's drive reversal and ended up outside the range of Luke's cr.mp.
After CapCup X Chris labbed it and found out you had to microwalk for 1 frame to be able to connect with cr.mp if Juri does a max range drive reversal.
That is now literally a frame perfect punish since 5f cr.mp +1f microwalk equals 6f exactly.
Anyone without a 5f medium would be limited to 4f lights to punish.
So wakeup drive reversal would be slower but a lot safer than Juri's od dp.
Even better for her, she now has two different timings for her wake up reversals.
14:26 MENTAL FRAMES! Pog!
1:44 Russian skies protected.
I'm expecting defensive hurtbox chances a la jps anti air. His nerf makes more sense in the context of a better drive reversal.
I like the game already and I trust them. Very excited personally.
After the drive revealed changes, everyone gonna be going into Burnout constantly
Free points
Akuma raw DR into demon gonna be a big problem considering he have faster walk speed than Chun Li. Juri is a top tier who already has great tools including very abusable fast dash forward and DR but Capcom thinks let's buff her because why not SMH. Nice to see Lily got buff though because she needs it. And I hope my boy Ed got buff like his cross up and his standing + crouch jab range / better hitbox.
9:59 “Why are you saying it’s good(for Blanka to have a shitty drive reversal)? Come on, guys, it’s Blanka!” I don’t think the downplay’s convincing anyone after what happened to Punk at Red Bull Kumite 💀
I wanna see the dmg on akuma and see if it compensates that low hp
I just want some fixes for ma man Zangief!!!
we all do 😥😥
Blanka doesn’t need DR
It's a universal mechanic. And even then it probably has some niche uses aside from his other wakeup or block options. If Blanka is blocking enemy pressure, he is already kinda losing, the whole point of the character is to go in and out of the enemy's range.
Juri bHK change might have some funky interactions with Lvl 2?
Idk, I'm spitballing, and who even knows if that would be optimal. As it is, bHk doesn't get much use.
b.HK has some important uses in SA2 and already juggles about as well as you'd want it to
@gameclips5734 but it doesn't ground bounce, so unless there's a miscommunication or a bad translation going on, there's a lot more you can do with that.
@@wordcroutons yes but in SA2 juggles you're usually cancelling the first or second hit into another normal anyway. The ground bounce might let you drive rush after but i don't think that really adds to her SA2 combos, maybe if they got rid of the fact that it takes off a juggle point it could be useful.
I’m just sick of the same characters being top tier other than Akuma lol
More anti air combos. Jump ins are too low risk high reward.
Juri’s back heavy kick really isn’t good for AA. It’s best used when you have your opponent in the corner and you throw it out it will catch them trying to jump out. AND when spaced correctly you can whiff punish with it and since both hits of the move are cancelable you can bait DI and counter DI or super, DR, etc.
I’ve tried using it as an anti-air and it’s so iffy like you said it screw’s me over more often than not
Perfect parrying drive reversal and wake up di is going to be more optimal to use now . This game is going to get interesting
boring. Drive rush and DI is the problem. No one said anything about drive reversal.
I bet when they add elena, he'll smile to her
Also still praying for heavy blanka nerfs he needs to be pu down
man so far these changes are so underwhelming im concerned that the first patch after waiting a whole year wont really be that impactful. These changes so far seems more like character adjustments that have been that way since the start
Everybody getting buffed to handle akuma🤣
I'm not sure I understand the shade thrown at Manon's overhead. It's the second part of a completely predictable target combo. Not sure how it's a problem.
Even though this has nothing to do the with the video. How them moffos going to get rid of Ed's SFV cr hp easy anti-cross up, but keep it in SF6 for Luke!
Well it is a dry brush
The paint splashes do look dry 😂
Akuma has 2 critical arts? one being the critical lvl 3 art and the raging demon is a 2nd critical art?
Yes
@@101Linkisawesome that's cool
I just hope they make it to where ED'S psycho knuckle can be chained into a combo
Lol when you were talking about Blankas bad DR, I was like “f-- Blanka!!!”
25:50 COMIN ATCHUH
How do you think this will affect the meta?
What if drive reversal can do real damage on hit or chip damage?
Ngl I feel like the patch is being scrambled. When they released the 10 minute play test it feels like they had no idea what they wanted to do and are using it to gauge audiences reaction as well as create some type of hype.
If the balance patch was really complete or even half way the biggest changes we would know off the bat because they'd just be too obvious. The fact that we don't see any change to Lilly's Windclad stocks or her gameplay loop in general feels like the intent was to leave her behind. No way they are trying to add new stuff NOW less than 16 days before the intended release.
People who are fans of Lilly are gonna be disappointed. If there any buffs it maybe to her normals and one or two combo routes. We see that they allowed for some of her crappy moves to have cancels. The thing is ---- to me ---- that's not the problem with the character. If there's no major changes beyond what we see here then she's still gonna be bottom tier
When will we see the season 2 characters?
Juri wins Capcom cup...gets buffed. Chun is the least represented top tier...nerfs for her.....
Cry
chun li is top 3 tho
The two Juri buffs in this video are made to an underused move and to fix a move that wasn't working as intended. I'd think of those more as quality of life changes. I'd barely consider those buffs (the divekick change is practically a bugfix).
There's also possibly some Juri nerfs built in that haven't been found yet or that are in the works. Just sit tight.
Less buffs and more consistency changes. Seems fair
I want all the shotos, cammy, and so many others to stop beating air attacks with st/cr jabs or st/cr short when a heavy air attacks are used. Only proper anti-airs should be able to counter them.
where are you seeing that happen?
@@gameclips5734everywhere lol although I don’t think it shouldn’t be possible. A lot of characters can anti air with jab tho, just depends on the range
@@willkershisnik5893 Capcom deliberately fixed that in SFV and kept it that way for SF6, jabs are not an effective AA, but feel free to prove me wrong.
Meanwhile Luke mains using j.HK literally everything that isn’t a DP or super: You say something?
10:00 yea, F Blanka. Dude already had OD reversal and j.OD air ball that covers all possible options. Blanka is already A to S tier. In fact, he needs more nerf especially his lvl 2. His 4mk is also broken, which is freaking +8 on hit, +12 on punish counter or drive rush and +fking 16 on punish counter and drive rush. Its also +2 on block, +6 on blocked DR and is a good anti air button. He even has an oki after a blocked DR overhead.
I don't mind he get other small buffs, but he at least needs nerf on his lvl2.
Mena will still beat your favorite Japanese player
@@2gunzup07 🤦♂
@skychaos87 you think blanka carried him while your favorite Japanese didn't even make top 10
@@2gunzup07 🤦Dude... im not Japanese and my favorite player isnt even Japanese. I also think MenaRD is currently the best SF player. But that doesn't mean i don't think Blanka needs change. I listed down the proper argument for why i think he needs changes, nerfs to his lvl2 and i even welcome other possible buffs.
No idea why you came in with this kind of comments, it makes you look dumb.
@@2gunzup07
Not an argument
Akuma is the only reason I brought this game!!! No lie 🤥😂😂
Like Juri needs any buffs...
Lol ikr
My only issue with the DR is the fireball + DR. Capcom just need to come up with a creative way for players to get around it.
that shouldn't be your issue. drive system destroys neutral currently. The very fundamental aspect that made SF great.
Raw DR. DR + fireball. DI being 3 armor, not minus and crumples on corner. DR needs to actually cost more and remove raw neutral DR. You should be only allowed to use it like an FADC with specials.
but what do they do? just buff drive reversal. These are bandages. They do not resolve the fundamental issues. Instead of taking out throw loops and changing DR/DI. This tells me they are sticking to the RPS hyper offense 50/50 direction. That is not SF.
All that what you said sounds like a you problem and a skill issue. The fireball + DR is only an issue for me b/c I’m using Lily (who Capcom made the weakest in the game). Trust and believe if Laura was in game, that would be a non issue for me. Maining the right character makes all the difference in the world of SF6.
@@ReginaldVannison7777
You do realize that having to pick the right character to have an answer to universal mechanics is an example of bad balance right? Not that I even necessarily agree with the guy you’re responding to, but it’s just wild to say “skill issue” and “if only I was using a better character” in the same breath
@@lostvayne9146 Lol nah DR doesn't destroy neutral. And SF never been a very neutral heavy game, you mistaken with Samurai Shodown.
@@Sakaki98 all characters not being equally on an even playing field as far as strength, power, speed & move set is an example of bad balancing. This is the reason why we keep seeing the same character matchups. Unlike Laura who has plenty of reserves…Lily doesn’t have anything as good as her condor spire…She’s at the bottom of the totem pole as the weakest character. You just can’t make Lily the slowest character…Give her one good move to get inside (that’s if it’s not DI or knocked out of it by a normal/special move) and expect her to excel. Nah, you got to give her way more than what she has. When it comes to the mechanics, I don’t complain about this, that and the third like others do…It doesn’t take much to satisfy me. All I said was Capcom need to come up with a creative way to deal with fireball + DR and that’s it. That’s why I can say what I said in the same breath. So if you want to talk about bad balancing, you should talk about it across the board, not just on mechanics.
Giefs are gonna be hurting this patch with the DI changes.
Don’t like the drive reversal mechanic anyway but I play ryu lol
Has noone detailed what akumas CA is? We get the option for the demon sure but we also get a CA for his original level 3 as well
dp super I'm curious about because aswell
Probs kkz
It’s been like that in every game it doesn’t need to be explained
@@Jason-ip6wq no it hasn't he has only had the KKZ in a handful of games (sf4)(sf5)(sf3rd strike) so it def could be different this time
Yes they posted screenshots of his super move list on the japan street fighter account
Lilly needs a lot of buffs
Nothing yet for Ed?
Not yet but it’s been confirmed that this isn’t the final patch build so there could be more coming, they did say every character was getting changed
They better buff Kim if they really thought Juri needed those buffs.
I dont think that drive reversal should be -6, why should be no punishable if the opponent is on burnout? That is too much, awfull change
can't wait for more useless combo trials for akuma
Nerf raw drive rush dammit!
No
get good
@@ΚρανίΩ play me
@@ΚρανίΩ lol- just watched your videos. you get out of diamond yet?
@@justinamos9223 games been destroyed by casuals. They don't understand that DR/DI kills the fundamental aspect of what made street fighter unique and great.
Its neutral. The game is just hyper offense, 50/50 rps, high damage and low defense. A trend of every modern fighting game. lowered Skill gaps
lily buffs are soo far underwhelming .......
Thumb nail🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
so basically, they are not nerfing drive rush, and barely any changes
its a trash patch
Its not the final patch
Go play sf5
Drive rush is working as intended, why would they nerf it?
We don't know yet, It doesn't seem like Drive Rush nerfs, but all we have is word of mouth with no video evidence, not to mention we have no patch notes. Don't take these as law, I'm sure there's plenty of changes people wont find. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not, but I'm not dooming this patch until I see the official notes
Can kim get a reversal? Shit We gotta hold everything on wake up
What do you think wakeup drive reversal is? It's a safer OD reversal. I expect using OD reversals will fall out of favor even for those that have them.
If drive reversal isnt punishable by mediums, it's going to be an unmitigated disaster for balance. You thought perfect parry was annoying? Wait until every character has OD reversals that are unpunishable
20 frame startup so you can meaty medium before each one
I mean if you read it and block you can just take their turn back and they wasted the 2 bar, it’s really not that crazy
@@EXFrostmeaties lose to PP don't they?
@@MansMan42069 i mean yea but then its still rps. delay tech, dp and jump etc already exist. I think D rev wakeup will be useful and good but its not gonna be anything revolutionary
@@EXFrost They are saying it's faster as well, it punishes mediums now.
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Bro sounds llike he's got 48 teeth in the front of his mouth - 'Camhcom"jk I really wish Ed got a buff in range or something, all his jabs feel really damn weak
Pointless video 88 .. CZcams money baby
How is this exactly is this pointless?
Ken main spotted 😂
@@Entei1482smartest Ken player fr
Are you being forced to watch? Nah so just leave dummy
Why are you here if it's pointless???