What Does AMG’s M156 Engine Share With Porsche’s V10?

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  • čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
  • In this video, I compare the Mercedes AMG 6.3 M156 to Porsche's V10 engine from the Carrera GT. Both engines were developed under the direction of Bernd Ramler and share many design elements. The m156 was featured in the w204 C63, w219 CLS63, w211 E63, W212 E63, R230 SL63, as well as others.
    Bernd Ramler's website: www.ra-ing.de/author/bernd/
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    Alte Schule Podcast (German) • Alte Schule, Folge 82 ...
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    Chapters
    00:00 Intro
    00:50 Ramler's Career
    03:23 M80 & M156 Comparison
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Komentáře • 56

  • @berndramler2677
    @berndramler2677 Před 10 měsíci +12

    I've only just found the video.... well researched. I was lucky that I was always able to make new engines in the companies at the right time and was always able to lead a very good team.

    • @amgnaciri5937
      @amgnaciri5937 Před 8 měsíci

      I love you, sir , my nickname is AMG , and my favourite number is 63.

  • @unclebenz563
    @unclebenz563 Před 2 lety +24

    You deserve an Oscar Nomination for music choice on this video. That NFS Porsche background music gave me goosebumps. Very interesting facts and very nicely presented!

  • @dongjinlee7436
    @dongjinlee7436 Před 2 lety +32

    I am a big fan of both engines. M156 in w219 CLS63 AMG is still the best engine I have owned so far among many cars. Great another informative video!

    • @cyclops86
      @cyclops86 Před 2 lety +1

      As a fellow 219 amg owner, I can attest to this

    • @diablocls55
      @diablocls55 Před rokem +1

      M113k ftw

    • @snix89yt
      @snix89yt Před 6 měsíci

      Same! Just picked up a 2007 cls63 AMG with 61,500 miles.

  • @marklingling
    @marklingling Před 2 lety +10

    That’s very interesting background, I never thought about those two engine was linked

  • @rubjim2
    @rubjim2 Před 2 lety +11

    I’m impressed you always gather your research from different sources and put reference photos for us to review and compare. Big fan. Keep up the great work.

  • @C63Bez
    @C63Bez Před 2 lety +2

    What a guy designing 2 of my fav engines ever. I was only 9 when the Carrera GT came out and I remember loving it from day 1. Unrivalled sound

  • @BANKAI-L
    @BANKAI-L Před 2 lety +2

    I love it that you showed "Alte Schule" podcast ! great to see your love for AMG History !!!!!

  • @omarawad151
    @omarawad151 Před 2 lety

    Such a great video and amazing information keep it up mate 👍🏼

  • @chloetruong3049
    @chloetruong3049 Před 2 lety +1

    Always a pleasure and learning experience thanks for posting!!?

  • @lucasromero3329
    @lucasromero3329 Před 2 lety +4

    Great video! Never knew this!

  • @dmo.amgc633
    @dmo.amgc633 Před 2 lety +1

    Was so happy to see you’ve put out another video on the M156 and whom design it .
    Your videos are always great to watch very informative, interesting and entertaining for myself to watch great job putting this one together, Hats of to you my friend,you definitely got my thumbs up for this one and all the other cool videos especially m156 .Great work

  • @Yojikman
    @Yojikman Před 2 lety

    Thank you very much this very interesting video mate. Bernd is fantastic person, he is legend!

  • @GLASSFILM
    @GLASSFILM Před 2 lety

    dude your videos are amazing and tickle my amg nerdyness

  • @ennisarslan5517
    @ennisarslan5517 Před 2 lety

    Hey bro love your videos! What kind of camera do you use?

  • @michobebemckawi
    @michobebemckawi Před 2 lety +2

    I would've never thought about that connection to start with! you always surprise with the quality of your content AND visuals! Getting my hands on a canadian CLK63 convertible tomorrow. hopefully the experience doesn't ruine my love for AMGs with time as I had great experience with older engines.

    • @michobebemckawi
      @michobebemckawi Před 2 lety

      btw head bolts have been replaced, no wear on tappets, camshafts are in good shape, cam adjuster plates had the teardrop wear but have been welded, and timing was redone but car still has timing codes and is acting like a dog! Gotta figure the culprit..

    • @ELWIN225
      @ELWIN225 Před 2 lety

      Welcome to m156 fam. I own m156 too and watch this guy’s channel who has some good DIYs. czcams.com/users/accentoncars

  • @superb63amg94
    @superb63amg94 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for this video! AMG!💥

  • @brendendas
    @brendendas Před 2 lety +1

    Love that second soundtrack. Heard it for the first time on NFS Poreche Unleashed

  • @lawrencefearon6830
    @lawrencefearon6830 Před 2 lety +1

    Truly rare knowledge. Few People know about these similarities.

  • @jrome187
    @jrome187 Před 2 lety

    very cool. I had no idea.

  • @GRosa250
    @GRosa250 Před 2 lety +1

    Another similarity is the M80 and the M159 have velocity stacks.

  • @markusjaguar1258
    @markusjaguar1258 Před 2 lety +3

    Seems like you played Need For Speed Porsche Unleashed ;)

  • @63nside21
    @63nside21 Před 2 lety +1

    That carbon fiber air box tho🤤

  • @DjKurazhh
    @DjKurazhh Před 2 lety

    Amazing engine

  • @EddieFly00
    @EddieFly00 Před 2 lety

    1:19 I got all excited when I saw this picture. Thats my car!! Well not exactly odviously... I have C230K W202.

  • @GetBruno
    @GetBruno Před 2 lety

    Coool!!! I dindnt know that. Proud owner of an 2011 E63 AMG M156 engine with 40k KM :))) Will be our 4 ever

  • @1974christo
    @1974christo Před 2 lety

    thanks :)

  • @flamespittinported13b6

    "but no engine is perfect"
    1uz-fe and 1lr-gue: hold my beer

  • @marvinjordan9987
    @marvinjordan9987 Před 2 lety

    Should of compared Engine mass in kg and see whats lighter or heaver.
    Also exhaust manifolds.
    Carrera GT looks tuned length.

  • @wtharris2343
    @wtharris2343 Před 2 lety +2

    isnt the 156 also plagued by the infamous head bolt issue?

    • @ELWIN225
      @ELWIN225 Před 2 lety +1

      Totally over exaggerated issue by the internet. Watch this guy and you’ll see czcams.com/video/zJO1qNnhxw4/video.html
      czcams.com/video/svf0R_00M5s/video.html

    • @wtharris2343
      @wtharris2343 Před 2 lety

      @@ELWIN225 I watched him. I am not sure what I or anyone else is supposed to learn from someone who professes he is not even a "DIYer myself". What did I miss?

    • @ELWIN225
      @ELWIN225 Před 2 lety +1

      @@wtharris2343 if you watched his channel you’d understand he was just being humble. The guy opened up his AMG engine and changed the head bolts. He has done it to others too on the E chassis and all the bolts came with minor surface rust.
      My point is that m156 is safe to buy. Failure rate was very low and mostly on C63. M156s on the road today have either been head bolt swapped already or have high mileage on original bolts and running strong.

  • @Spectator007
    @Spectator007 Před 2 lety

    what is the song starting from 3:23?

    • @filolival4511
      @filolival4511 Před 2 lety

      Cypher - Aircon. Was in Need for Speed Porsche 2000

  • @robertwestinghouse4098

    Very interesting. Could any of you learned people confirm that Porsche made a number of v-8 engines for Mercedes?

  • @realitykicksin8755
    @realitykicksin8755 Před 2 lety

    The V10 has a much smaller stroke than the Merc V8 ... it could not be more different.

  • @halamadridpatriotsnationgo1057

    Mercedes Benz: Real Madrid!
    Porsche: Atletico Madrid!

  • @HedserWijbenga
    @HedserWijbenga Před 2 lety +1

    I get the urge to play nfs porsche unleashed after watching this video..

  • @no-damn-alias
    @no-damn-alias Před rokem

    Another little known fact. Why did Porsche build a V10 and not a flat 10? Ramler could proof that the centre of gravity was lower on the V10 . Yes you read right.

  • @Manuqtix.Manuqtix
    @Manuqtix.Manuqtix Před 2 lety

    I really wish the m156 made it to the x class Mercedes’

  • @linnguye
    @linnguye Před rokem

    Headbolts issue with M156 engine is the worst, every M156 owner is aware of this problem. Your video failed to mention it.

    • @expofcam
      @expofcam Před rokem +2

      this was a comparison of the two engines, he has a separate video on common problems

  • @leftianleka5275
    @leftianleka5275 Před 2 lety

    Mobil 0w40 is the way to go

  • @chiragghuman
    @chiragghuman Před 2 lety +1

    VW has always been ruining the Porsche development and what we see today is a compromised Porsche with Turbos, electric steerings, larger dimensions and artificial exhaust sounds, none of which is liked by enthusiasts or purists. Porsche family should go back to the drawing table and learn from 997.2 and 987.2 gen models

  • @marica535
    @marica535 Před 2 lety

    Never

  • @andresmattos7541
    @andresmattos7541 Před 2 lety

    They share they are both horribly overpriced