Do I Freeze My Grains?
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Thank you so much for that!
I didn't realise the eggs were inside the grain. That's good to know. Thanks.
I keep lots of grain. I also buy in 50 lb bags. Here are the methods I use.
1. Put into 1/2 gal jars and vacuum seal using a vacuum sealer.
2. Put into Mylar bags and vacuum seal.
3. Put into Mylar bags and put oxygen absorbers inside the bag and seal.
4. Put bags into 5-7 gal buckets. Add Mylar bag, then put in grain and then add oxygen absorbers and seal bag then put food grade lid with seal on bucket.
4.Put into freezer.
5. Put into 5-7 gal buckets without Mylar. I then fill those buckets with argon gas. Argon is what is used by wire welding machines. It is non-flammable. It is inert. It is heavier than air. I simply fill the buckets with the argon gas. You will know when it is full when you light a match and lower it into the bucket. When the fire goes out, it is because there is not oxygen. Then put a sealed lid on.
6. Put grain into bucket without Mylar. Pour 2 cups of diatomaceous earth (food grade) into bucket on top of seed. Anything that hatches will crawl over the diatomaceous earth will be cut by the powder and will die from dehydration. Diatomaceous earth is edible. I personally take a heaping tsp in 12 ounces of water twice a day on an empty stomach. It lowers your cholesterol, lowers blood sugars, lowers blood pressure. Increases hair and nail growth. Also contains many micro nutrients.
These are the 6 methods I use. I rarely use the freezer method any longer.
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Hi, I grew up with a mom who used to put cinnamon sticks onto her flouwer and rice. The gas it gives off penetrates and kills the eggs
I keep seeing comments about killing the eggs, but what happens to the dead eggs? You eat em?
@@beans4853 yes
I have my Mockmill and sacks of organic grains coming this week, no more dead bread for us! We will be sure to freeze the grains for a week before I store them in plastic buckets. We aren’t long term preppers so I will order replacement sacks as we need them, there is a lot of grain grown here in Ontario anyway! Thanks for this video!
God bless
Klaus
Thanks for the info on weevils. 25+ years and I've never had them or seen them. The info you shared was very interesting. Thanks for showing what they look like also. If I ever do have an infestation, I'll now know what they. Now I'm wondering if there is a way to vacuum seal a 5-gallon bucket. LOL
I don’t think so. I’ve collected a bunch of 1/2 gallon jars just for this purpose.
My grandma (I'm 73) sifted the weevils out before using
That last bag I had that got weevils, I spent a lot of time picking the weevils out of each cup before grinding. Then the bag got too full of weevils I just could not keep up. That was before I had my chickens so I could not even feed them to them
Eew
Homestead Tessie has one on oven canning
Thanks Tina :)
OK thank you for this video Heidi! I never even thought about feeding the greens to my chickens, lol! I was like I’m under a lot of stress I’m just gonna throw them all out! Lol. Another thing that people could do is probably make beer?
So I’m going to get home from my stressful six days in Florida! Then I am going to assess the Bollweevil situation!!!
I don’t have a mill, would someday love to have one, so don’t buy grains, but all my flour that goes in storage is frozen, thawed and put in Mylar, sealed and put in 5 gallon buckets and lid pressed on. I also always sift my flour just for precaution. Thanks for all your info, so sorry this happened to you, blessings
Oh, Heidi. I'm sorry that happened.😔 So frustrating. But, Dang girl! I love your p.o.v.! I'd probably Still be out there saying bad words but you came in to share it with us. You're a beautiful, giving person. Thank God and thank you for you. 🤗💜😘
Thank you Trish! 💚
@@RainCountryHomestead you may have covered this and I missed it. How long do you figure shelf life of the Hooiser Hills powdered butter in that plastic container. (unopened) THANKS
Thank you, Heidi. 😃
Ty
After viewing your video, I moved all my grains and lentils out to the car. We are having a long cold snap here in Minnesota. Today it is -22 outside.
That's how I froze all my flour and grains this winter...in an unused vehicle.
👍 Danke fürs Hochladen!
👍 Thanks for uploading!
Grabbed all my rice, flour, etc! In the freezer! My husband thinks I'm nuts! Lol
Dear Heidi, Thank you for the video😊
Just wanted to say that I have tried the
oven canning method and have lost quite
a few jars due to cracking. I was very careful!
Love, Tami
Thanks for sharing that Tami
Also I forgot. You know what I think is going on Heidi with the grains and rice. They’re buying older stuff that has been stored up by farmers to sell. China is buying up all of the grains and beans. So now we’re hitting the sub par supplies. If you go to azure Standard and also where I buy some stuff bread Beckers. If you start looking around at their soy beans black beans and other beans/grains. They are out of stock and have been out of stock! Also at azure standard they always have arriving soon and they will list an arrival date for products. Well for the last couple months that they’ve been out of stock there is no arriving soon with a date!!! YEPPERS!
Right, I had tried ordering a certain grain (I forget which it was) from Azure in spring of 2020, while the rest of my order came in, I never got that other bag of grains. They kept showing as being out of stock and will ship when they get them back in (they must have went out of stock right after I placed my order) but it just never happened so I gave up on them
Thank you! Finally ordered one and grain, I can't wait to start.
❤️ You are the best! Thank you so much.
"Errrt-uh-errr-uh-errrrrrrrr" says the Rooster spinning on the screen, giggles... That would be nice if there was a way to vacuum seal a bucket, mAyBe hubby Patrick has a way, & I can hear him now, "thanks a lot Ruby, gees", blushing... But would be AWEsome IF possible, then he could sell them to others, just some thoughts... Great video, thank you... 😘 🌹🌈💞🎵🌷🌼🌺💖😆👏👍💫🌟✌ 💛 ☘️
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I love 'it's a matter of squeamishness". If I had a place for a third freezer I would def store flours and grains this way. if the power goes out, it's still a great storage container til the power comes back on 😊
@@cynthiafisher9907 How long do you keep it frozen to know they’re dead ? And does buying organic make a difference …. ? I never been to Cosco, where do you go for grains … ?? ; )
@@esemmanuel6603leave them in freezer for 7 days. Heidi covered that. Lots of places sell grain.
Just watched a video from Redrose Homstead where she demonstrated using dry ice in a five gallon bucket to store grains. Simple process.
Yes, some people do that, I am just not interested in that method
Good video , thanks for sharing ,God bless !
Thank you Heidi! What do you think about vacuum sealing the grains to kill the eggs, then storing them back into bigger buckets/bags? I use dried chilli peppers in rice (either no bugs or it worked). Lavender leaves around sweet fruit on counter. Since putting the lavender leaves, haven't seen ants. Separate question - can molded fruit be made into vinegar or wine? Thanks so much for your wisdom and generosity! Have lots of fun shopping and playing with grandbaby :) Abundant blessings and radiance!
I believe I did cover the part about vacuum sealing in the above video. Yes, it should work as depriving them from oxygen will kill them
I would not use already moldy fruit to make either vinegar or wine.
Great Infor to share👍🏻
I hope my buckets are ok. I have Mylar and oxygen absorbers and vacuum sealer lids already on the way. I had felt the need to fill buckets this past year more than buying that. Hope I didn’t make a mistake on waiting on proper storage items!😬I will open them when things arrive and if I lost anything I guess it’s better to find out now.
One never knows, I stored grains and more in far less protective conditions than I do now for years and never got weevils. It seems they just come from nowhere for no reason some times.
Buy grains in the Winter if you live in a place that drops below freezing. Put them in something that animals can't get to. A trashcan.
I have used a cup of diatomaceous earth in the 5 gallon buckets. Stir and that’s it! I’ve never had a weevil problem!
Yes, DE can be deadly to weevils, I have mentioned this in other videos, however, when I added to my first bag of grains that got weevils in them, it did not stop them one bit, they just kept repopulating in the bag and it was back before I had chickens so that bag ended up being a total loss
No weevils until two weeks after a my very first (and VERY large!) azure standard drop. I don't know if I throw it all away or what. I even see them on my pantry floor. My freezer is tiny - just the one on my fridge. I have nothing else that you mentioned. Cryinggggg 😭
That's why I bought a small deep freeze. Critters hatch (they're on the grain when harvested). I was heat treating grain til recently. Now I freeze & vacuum seal.
i have your vacuum chamber that i use with a break bleeder do you have a link for me to buy tubing for a foodsaver please
So should I buy smaller like 10 or 15 pounds
Heidi do you sprout your grains before you use, And do you have a video. On sprouting to use for grinding flour??
I personally do not but I know that Mary at Mary's Nest does but do not know if she has a video on it
Can you tell me what that blend is that you focused on? It looks like wild rice and others.
It was a wild rice blend, I do not recall what all different types of wild rice are in there but it is one I get from Lundberg
I came across a boat load of 1/2gal jars I have to use the dry canning for grains I have a mouse problem
Yes, glass or metal is the best way to keep mice out.
Heidi, would be a good idea to dry the grains for a day or two in the dehydrator? Just to make sure they are dry..?? I am asking because I just bought two 5 pound bags of soft white wheat berries, do I can practice on bread making and baking goods, so I can have it down pat, if that's possible 😅.. so grinding soft white is takes longer to grind?? Ugh... oh well my arms, need some help anyways.. lol
Yes, that would be one way to do it with a small amount like that but for me, 25-50 lbs at a time is too much. I am just leaving it in the bag with the bag open and a cloth over the opening to keep dust out. I will stir it daily as well.
@@RainCountryHomestead Thanks, Heidi..
Thank you for the video. I have a quick question about grain mills. I like the country living grain mill but it is too large for the space I have available. Do you have a recommendation for something smaller non motorized that I can use? Thanks. 😊
I know Wondermill makes one that is hand crank that I believe is smaller. Other than that, I am not sure what to recommend as I only have experience with the Country Living
What does grinding rice and other grains, into a powder, do … ? Is powder grains a way to make milk ??
Thanks
So weevils can take 5 years to be noticeable that seems like a long time in a bug life? Were your bay leaves replaced every couple of years? Curious because I'm thinking of getting bigger bags of grains and I don't have room to freeze.
Honestly, I am stumped on how and why those weevils came to be so I really cannot answer that. No, I do not replace them, I just keep the same ones in. Also, I am thinking the grains may not be quite as old as I first thought as I had kept buying the Honeyville grains a couple years after I stopped buying their #10 cans of freeze dried products. Even so, they would have to still be about 3 years old. However, I did not have them stored in mylar, just in a the bag they came in a bucket.
Sorry I haven’t been around commenting. I have been being run through the mill since Christmas time. We came down to Florida for six days. I don’t know if I’ve ever told you this. But the Lord has been calling me to move to Florida for a while now. Now what I’m getting from Him and I could be wrong? Is that it’s not a right this moment thing. But a in the future thing? But every time we come down here all hell breaks loose. So what happened at my house right right before I was due to leave. I Started seeing little black bugs around? Guess what their bowl weevils. And the Lord only knows what they are into. I just could not even deal with it before I left. I was like you know fortunately were in a position if I have to throw all this out I’ll just throw it all out and re-buy it. The Lord has provided us money. I don’t pay any tides to a church because I believe most of them are with the devil. I do give some money where needed to different things. But I look at a circumstance like this like the Lord is giving me money for reasons of these right here.
We used to pay tithes on a regular basis but also stopped doing that years ago. One reason why is for the very reason you said. Every day it seems more and more that most of them are going to align themselves with the anti Christ. Also, the sermons on tithing are always taken out of context. Now if we were in a true Bible believing church, I would help out where I felt God was leading me but really, any financial help we give anywhere is based on God's guiding anyway and that is the way it should be, not some compulsory "gift" that we feel obligated to do
@@RainCountryHomestead YEPPERS!
@The gardener YEPPERS!
I saw one lady packing her flour in brown paper lunch bags and then putting each of those in a vacuum sealed foodsaver bag. Would that be a good method for saving rice if I then placed those packages in a food safe bucket with the twisting lid. I don't really want to just pour it in the bucket because I am older and could not handle lifting it.
That's what I do with anything dusty so my vacuum sealer doesn't fill up
I am wondering if you can use diatomaceous earth in your flour, rice and beans to kill larva weevil’s ?
yes, it can help some
@Rain Country Hoping you can help me. Is it ok to freeze old fashion oats as well for few days? then let get back to room temprature before sealing and storing
I think it might be better if I just vaccum seal and o2 absorber is good enough
Yes, I think it is a good idea but the bigger the bag, the longer you should allow it to freeze to make sure it freezes all the way through but yes, vacuum sealing should also kill anything in there
I remember my mom saying something about weevils got into something on top of something in the cabinet. I never saw them so I was still oblivious to them. I Hate a bug all of them!
I got a question Heidi I've looked it up and I noticed the people took him out but I've got these half gallon ball jars and I've read where you can put meat with bones in the pressure canner and that you can put up chicken with the bone. With these have gallon jars I wanted to put some pork ribs in there thinking that they should fit probably pretty good in there but only saw one or two videos and they used short beef ribs and they took the bone out. But I don't want to do it that way I want my way haha 😆 I know I have to do it the right way but I don't know how to do it do you know how?
While I have yet to can meat with the bone, I do not see why not or what difference it would make. The bones would add minerals to the broth that is created in the canning process. Many people may say there is only one way to do something but much of the time, it is a matter of choice. However, if there is some safety issue there, it would be wise to look into it and find out why. It is like the idea that many people say "never stack your jars" and people have been doing that for years because it was only what they were told by their mom or grandma but even the National Center for Home Preservation says it is safe to stack them up to three high. So it is best to find it if something is simply opinion or if there is actually a solid reason why it should or should not be done
@@RainCountryHomestead thank you Heidi and thank you for the information I could also look it up on the national Center for home preservation. I have canned chicken with the bone in it I did it in a raw pack and I did not add liquid that's what they said and Pints for 65 minutes at 11 pound pressure and quarts for 75 minutes with the bone without the bone it's 75 minutes for pints and quarts 90 minutes and of course you could do it hot pack or you cook it whether you bake it boiling or steaming and then you can cover the poultry with hot broth and I guess that is with bone-in or bone out with the hot pack. My chicken legs and my chicken wings look great. I need to open up one and cook it and see how it did. When I do I'll let you know. But thanks again Heidi I'm going to check it out and when I find out I'll let you know and if I do it I'll let you know how it turned out. Y'all have a blessed day and night
Would freezing grains hurt viability for planting? A friend gave me a bag of Einhorn for planting but she's had it in her freezer for about a year
No, it should not hurt it. Consider this, in the wild, seed falls to the ground, it freezes (stratifies), then sprouts when the weather warms up in the spring
Where do you order your bulk grains? Azure? I have been having an issue getting what I want from them. The things I want will be out of stock after I get the shipment notification. Can you suggest other places
I did a video on that here because I do not always get them from the same place: czcams.com/video/dMCTJK0HvOs/video.html&pp=sAQA
I hate to ask but to be sure, you’re saying if I put my wheat berries straight into Mylar bags with oxygen absorbers and a bucket, that it will kill the bugs. ( disabled, hard time comprehending at times and I’ve got 4 bags I just got shipped) thanks Heidi!
I cannot say for certain it will kill them, especially if the O2 absorbers is one of the many worthless ones out there or if the bag gets a hole but it should help at least.
its 33 years since i l got my first home ive only had flour mites once in a 1 lb bag of self raising flour 20 years ago i think its just random bad luck its unplesant if you are very particular about cleanliness
I’m getting ready to vacuum seal. I washed my jars and lids and they are dry. Do I have to sterilize the jars as well?
It is really a matter of choice. I personally do not bother
Grain is dry so no need freezing but can do vacuum air tight ?
The reason some people freeze grains for several days or more BEFORE packing away in jars or buckets is to kill any weevil eggs that may be in he grains. Here is a more recent video I did on that: czcams.com/video/o6Pfn0xO3WM/video.html
Yes, you can vacuum seal them into jars or put them into mylar bags that you either heat seal shut or get the ones with zip closures then put in food grade buckets with air tight seals. Some will choose to add oxygen absorbers to their bags. I do not
Have you tried Einhorn berries I'm going to try some
Yes, I have tried einkorn, they are good but far more expensive.
Just dashed all of my hopes since I’ve been using bay leaves. 😫 Would it be different using bay leaves with flour though, since the weevils would have to hatch eggs in the flour? It is challenging when one doesn’t have the freezer space to freeze initially.
I believe they help keep bugs out, so that would include flour as it is less likely they are in the flour when purchased.
Thanks!
Please show how you make your chicken food!
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I guess I'm a lurker, cuz I watch your videos all the time but don't comment. Sorry about my confusion, but was your infested Honeyville bag sealed in a bucket or with mylar? I bought extra bags of grain to store long term to guard against future shortages, and hoping long term storage will be possible. Thanks!!
Honestly, I am confused too because I do not believe I had sealed that bag up. It was just in a bucket, no mylar. I just cannot figure out where those critters came from since I had that bag for at least a few years.
@@RainCountryHomestead Thanks so much for responding! I appreciate you and your hard work!
should I freeze my grains that come in sealed buckets?
If they are already in sealed buckets, I would just leave them
I was going to buy my grain in 25 pounds but my freezer is really tiny I could freeze them
I just got a 20 lb. bag of rice. Does it need to dry somehow when I take it out of the freezer to pack them in smaller bags. Just wondering about any moisture.
In the video I have coming out tomorrow I actually talk a bit about this but what I do after I take out of the freezer, I open the bag and cover with a cloth to keep dust out and daily will stir it up with my hands. I will do this very several days to a week to make sure it is fully dry before packing away in buckets
@@RainCountryHomestead thank you Heidi I’ll watch for that video.
@@grammy279 Since it is one of my This~N~That videos where i talk about several topics, I will let you know that I talk about the grains towards the very end
@@RainCountryHomestead ok thanks so much Heidi
Can you keep the grains in the freezer until you need it? How long will they keep in the freezer?
Yes. They will keep a very long time in the freezer
@@RainCountryHomestead I have a question about something you said, about the Roots and Harvest wide and regular sealers not working right and only FoodSaver sealers work. I bought 1 wide and 1 regular from Roots and Harvest, should I go buy Foodsaver ones ? Am I going to have problems with the ones I got, down the road ??
@@esemmanuel6603 I have never heard of those so you must be thinking of someone else
Does vacuum sealing it with a food saver (not a Mylar bag) work just as well for killing the weevils? Then can I just put the vacuum sealed flour bags in a plastic bin for storage? Should I be vacuum sealing sugar and red beans too? To confirm: I do not need to freeze flour and grains if I vacuum seal them, correct? Sorry for all the questions!!
Yes, and I would say better as mylar can get punctured and oxygen absorbers often fail. Sugar never needs to be vacuum sealed unless you just want to prevent moisture. Some people still like to freeze before vacuum sealing but it is not necessary since you are depriving it of oxygen
@@RainCountryHomestead are red beans ok to just be stored as is or would vacuum sealing help? Thank you for your response!!
@@MFaith777 Yes, any dried bean can be stored that way.
Are you saying you freeze your dry beans too ….. ? They can get bugs ?
@@esemmanuel6603 no, my dried beans are in buckets with bay leaves and sealed with a cover.
I leave mine in freezer for 2 weeks, I wasting the use but at least they will be really frozen
I left mine in for a month. That way when my next bag of grains came in, I would just take out the first and add the second :)
@@RainCountryHomestead that's actually a great idea!! Thanks
Okay….I had three 25 lbs bags of hard white wheat berries. Did not have room in my freezer for 25 lbs bags……so I took a brown paper lunch bag put in 12 cups in each bag, folded over the flap, taped down the middle of each sack…..then took the bags and put them in a 1 gallon food saver bag and removed the air and sealed…..then put the bags in the freezer for 3 days….then took them from the freezer and brought them to room temp…..then placed them in a heavy duty black tote. So…..do you think this process is okay?
Yes, it should be fine except I would make sure all the moisture is out of the grains before packing. I usually give mine several days to dry out after freezing.
Thank You…..I will let the frozen pkgs sit out for a week and then pack in the totes.
I use DE
Yep, tried that and that first bag that got weevils and do mention using it in at least one of my other grain videos but it did not kill the weevils present, it only continued to get worse as they populated faster and faster
@@RainCountryHomestead oh no, good to know. Thank you!
Do you have a chicken scratch recipe
I do not have one out, it changes up all the time but I should do a video on that soon
Hihihi makes me think of some Corsica cheese verrryy old stinking like I don’t know what with white worms on them .. THEY EAT IT!! Saying it was meat also!!! Berk berk ..
O yes, I know what you are talking about, the cheese with the maggots! And people will eat the maggots as well! EW
Yeah, my German grandmother would eat, I think it was "Stinkerkäse" (stinky cheese), with maggots. Said it was normal to have them. But then she would also fight with her sister over who would get to eat the eyes of, at least fresh, fish.
Do you also freeze your oatmeal?
No, I do not bother with that since the weevils do not live inside the rolled oats like they do whole grains
🤔 Extra protein.
Heat is likely tom deteriorate nutrition.Oven canning should be a last resort.
True, but most people do cook their grains in some form so same will happen when preparing them from consumption
@@RainCountryHomestead True. Heating and storing increases rate of rancidity though. Not sure if cooking could be compared to that.
So glad I do not eat grains. :-)