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  • čas přidán 18. 08. 2024
  • On the first night without entering the Grove you get some dialogues that are easily missed because normally you haven't been in enough fights to actually justify long resting yet.
    This is also the only way I found so far to get the Astarion dialogue about Durge without kicking squirrels or "borrowing" a hand from Gale ;)
    00:00 "Go to Hell" - Gale
    01:06 "Your magician seems dour tonight" - Astarion
    01:57 "Doing the rounds, are you?" - Shadowheart
    02:42 No sweet dreams in sight - Durge's Nightmares
    04:00 "You look rabid!" - Astarion
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Komentáře • 153

  • @Madeleinewith3Es
    @Madeleinewith3Es Před měsícem +506

    "hard to join in when all of this feels so new" an understatement from the man having his first normal social interactions in two centuries

  • @thecheck968
    @thecheck968 Před měsícem +335

    I can't help but view Gale's dialogue here in a bit of a different light. He's afraid of dying because where once he earned Mystra's favor, he has earned her ire. He's not just afraid of death, but the inevitability that he will be forgotten about and his soul wasted away.

    • @JMOlsen_
      @JMOlsen_ Před měsícem +10

      Souls in that world are judged by Kelemvor. Mystra's hostility wouldn't condemn him. Ceremorphosis would.

    • @thecheck968
      @thecheck968 Před měsícem +11

      @@JMOlsen_ ​ @JMOlsen_ Ah. Right. The central reasoning the villains chose to take over the world using mindflayers: because becoming one destroys the soul. Still works metaphorically, but whoops.

    • @JMOlsen_
      @JMOlsen_ Před měsícem +10

      @@thecheck968 Technically, mind flayers have souls. Just not of a type that can be used by gods or fiends. They are a weird far realm species after all. But the souls of the creatures they consume in the process of ceremorphosis, those are gone for good. Only reversible with spells like wish/miracle or comparable. Nothing lesser than that. And most of the creatures consumed, wouldn't be seen as worth the effort. No one would be willing or able to pay a lvl 17+ caster to cast this spell to bring back some random refugee, bar wench or daylaborer.

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +8

      The only soul that might be worth it for would be Karlach's. She canonically has a very powerful and pure soul :)

    • @JMOlsen_
      @JMOlsen_ Před měsícem +6

      @@ShandoraTheExplorer Pure perhaps (highly debatable), but not powerful. She is a relatively weak-willed barbarian, deathly afraid of magic and not able to influence others well beyond threats of bodily harm or guilt tripping/shaming (the latter doesn't work against those with a stronger will).

  • @runestamp
    @runestamp Před měsícem +239

    another scene in recently encountered in my thousands of hours in this game at this point is another scene you can get before entering the grove with gale. he has a mirror image of himself and he’s looking at himself as if he was using a real mirror, before he starts to explain to you a little more about ceremorphosis. it definitely took me out the first time i saw it to see two gales in my camp but it was a fun scene 😂

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +26

      ah I got that scene a few times too! as a fighter I once said to him "all that wizardry is making me uncomfortable"

    • @magister343
      @magister343 Před měsícem +4

      Note that if you are using a mod to change the appearance of origin characters (I usually like to give Gale shorter hair), then his mirror image may look nothing like him.

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +6

      @@magister343 In the scene where his illusionary image waits for you in Act II he always shows up with a headpiece for me xD I put a hat or something on him and then make it invisible, forgetting all about it until Act II when suddenly his illusion is wearing it

    • @drunemeton
      @drunemeton Před měsícem +1

      I’m almost at 1,000 hours of play (E.A. Survivor…) and just got that scene tonight! I was flipping out. 😂🎉❤

    • @katiatall
      @katiatall Před měsícem +2

      In the video it’s the first night, that one that you mentioned is the second night. And you can enter the druid groove and pick up Wyll and just save Arabella, but don’t do anything else because when you get a quest to find Halsin/Ethel/Gut/Creche_location it will trigger the third night. In these first three nights will be different lines from characters bc whom you speak order. Wyll have fun dialogue in the second night)))
      1 night go to hell
      2 night worries about not turning
      3 night we are going looking for cure (Halsin/crèche/Ethel/Gut)

  • @kittikat4124
    @kittikat4124 Před měsícem +134

    Got these scenes for the first time last night and felt so sad because of Gale's. Bro not only has a tadpole, but a magical bomb and he just broke up with his goddess girlfriend, he's really going through it

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +7

      yeah, he's got a lot on his plate that guy ^^"

    • @feloniousbutterfly
      @feloniousbutterfly Před měsícem +8

      You forgot to mention he was groomed by a god

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +5

      Not sure about that I read that Mystra came back into being when Gale was already an adult. I'd have to check the timeline though.

    • @CorHellekin
      @CorHellekin Před měsícem

      ​@@ShandoraTheExplorer i believe they got together when he was 17?

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +3

      @@CorHellekin did a reddit deep dive and found this: www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/16qwa8j/spoilers_gales_age_and_the_forgotten_realms/
      seems to be a very controversial topic ^^"

  • @Ilkanar
    @Ilkanar Před měsícem +342

    Astarions outfit cooks

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +28

      @@Ilkanar thanks! The black one is from the mod "Astarion gear" the red one too but dyed with "lush burgundy" from "basket full of equipment nsfw"

    • @ilovecorpseparty8930
      @ilovecorpseparty8930 Před 27 dny +2

      @@ShandoraTheExplorerI’m stealing now

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před 27 dny +1

      @@ilovecorpseparty8930 be my guest xD

  • @destinygalearies7382
    @destinygalearies7382 Před měsícem +84

    Worth noting that the dialogue the companions give on this night actually changes depending on what order you talk to them in, mostly with the other companions commenting on your choice in the first person you talked to that night

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +20

      @@destinygalearies7382 yep, Astarion doesn't mention Gale if you talk to him first and Shadowheart says not to trust "the pale fellow" if you talk to her second.

  • @RazielTheUnborn
    @RazielTheUnborn Před měsícem +58

    It just dawned on me; Astarion is able to tell you twitching and ready to go postal because he is a Vampire. He has spent centuries being starved by Cazador and has to learn to control his hunger. Before he learned to control it, how do you think he acted? We get a good idea from the Spawn in the cells. Astarion truly does relate with the Dark Urge.

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +13

      @@RazielTheUnborn yep. Plus he'd be the only one actually awake to see Durge having that nightmare because he's actually up hunting for food or woken up by a nightmare about Cazador himself 🥹

    • @RazielTheUnborn
      @RazielTheUnborn Před měsícem +3

      @@ShandoraTheExplorer You'd think Shadowheart would have noticed since Elves/Half Elves do not sleep.

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +1

      @@RazielTheUnborn yeah but she's meditating without a care in the world 🥹

    • @RazielTheUnborn
      @RazielTheUnborn Před měsícem +2

      @@ShandoraTheExplorer For only a couple of hours. The nightmares last from the moment we lay down to when we get up. Heck, for this sleep, pretty sure depending on the order you talk to companions she states she will stay up a while and for us to get some rest just like Astarion.

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem

      @@RazielTheUnborn true! Shart be like: "not my nightmare, not my business" 😭

  • @dais1151
    @dais1151 Před měsícem +76

    Act 1 feels so much more alive than the others

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +2

      @@dais1151 for real tho!

    • @makiiavely
      @makiiavely Před 21 dnem +16

      it definitely does. I'm on my second playthrough and I'm blown away by how frequently characters talk to each other and intervene in many conversations. In act 3 the most insane thing might be happening right in front of them and they'll be standing there doing nothing and saying nothing. You can tell Larian ran out of time by the last third of the game

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před 21 dnem +13

      @@makiiavely act 3 just overwhelms me time and time again, so many people, so many npcs talking over each other. I can barely make out what each individual is saying. Plus some of them have dialogue that makes you think they might hide a quest but they rarely ever do.

    • @CorelUser
      @CorelUser Před 15 dny

      ​@@makiiavelyAct 3 is much more content full than the other acts so I doubt time or resources were the problem

    • @masterblaster2678
      @masterblaster2678 Před 14 dny +2

      @@CorelUser An entire section was cut from Baldur's Gate, the Upper City, the place where the "brain resides" apparently (when you get to the entrance of the Upper City, you are told you can't go any further by the Emperor), fun fact, you were supposed to go to Ramazith's Tower from the Upper City. I think that resulted in a bit of crunching of content in Act 3, and might've resulted in some dialogue remaining unused. I really hope they add the area in a DLC, this game deserves a DLC, I don't get to enjoy my god mode enough :'D

  • @waltbriggs1821
    @waltbriggs1821 Před 14 dny +8

    I did this on my first durge run and thought it was just a thing that everyone was angry

  • @F1REBEARD
    @F1REBEARD Před 19 dny +9

    Asterion: you sleep, I'll keep watch. Guess he was a bit tired after all

  • @travisretriever7473
    @travisretriever7473 Před měsícem +133

    If there is one thing I regret in my first playthrough, it's not long resting frequently enough. X.x

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +3

      @@travisretriever7473 same!! You miss so much if you don't at least do partial rests

    • @brook_angel
      @brook_angel Před měsícem +45

      There is a mod that gives you a little marker if you have camp interactions waiting for you at your next long rest. Really useful if you don't wanna miss anything.

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +2

      @@brook_angel yes, I'm using that too :)

    • @b.lightyear3455
      @b.lightyear3455 Před měsícem +1

      @@ShandoraTheExplorerWhat's the name of that mod?

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +7

      @@b.lightyear3455 It's this one! www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/1879

  • @SlippyPete
    @SlippyPete Před měsícem +149

    Shart has it out for Gale too?! Is no one safe from her sass?!

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +6

      @@SlippyPete it appears not! 😅

    • @Chloe11501
      @Chloe11501 Před měsícem +13

      I love how we all collectively just agreed her name is Shart! 😂

    • @allieofchaos
      @allieofchaos Před měsícem +4

      ​@@Chloe11501 I feel like the creators did not think her name through. DND DM rules - expect the players to trash your character names

    • @coffeeinvasion
      @coffeeinvasion Před měsícem +5

      ​@@allieofchaosEven the actress that plays her calls her "Shart"!

    • @yahyahyor
      @yahyahyor Před dnem

      I kind of wonder if she was feeling a little jealous or annoyed because she stuck with you after the crash and doesn't want the other people (who she knows nothing about) to mess with Tav, especially Lae'zel and Astarion... Her coming for Gale like that is strange but, a lot of people probably feel like that about wizards.

  • @royal9561
    @royal9561 Před měsícem +57

    612 hours and I’ve NEVER seen the durge nightmare cutscene

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +5

      @@royal9561 I'm 500 hours in and this is the first time too 😅

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +14

      @@royal9561 I only found it because if the "camp event notification" mod

    • @slayerdwarfify
      @slayerdwarfify Před měsícem +2

      The one in this video? Blood, blood, blood, that one? I've never had trouble triggering that one, didn't realize it was all that rare

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +3

      @@slayerdwarfify not really rare, just so early in the game that most people didn't do enough stuff yet to actually think "yep, I need to long rest now"

  • @luvondarox
    @luvondarox Před 27 dny +9

    Shadowheart feels like that Lil Sis who's just a smidge upset you didn't talk to her first, but will let you make it up to her if you gossip a bit.

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před 27 dny +1

      absolutely xD she and Astarion are notorious to not talk to you at all if you approach them too late

  • @oroontheheels
    @oroontheheels Před měsícem +30

    I completely missed those first dialogues at the camp because I didn’t know you can visit the camp from almost any point of the map.
    I thought I need to get to the Grove to rest. 😅
    I was too used to JRPG where you need to buy tent or go to tavern to sleep lol.

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +4

      @@oroontheheels believe it or not on my first run I didn't even find the button to long rest until waaaay too late. 😅

    • @oroontheheels
      @oroontheheels Před měsícem +1

      @@ShandoraTheExplorer same! My team was SO CLOSE to dying lmao.

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +3

      @@oroontheheels the joys of your very first run and making all the mistakes 🥹 I completely ignored the underdark thinking I could only choose one path and then I didn't lift the Shadow curse so Halsin ditched us

    • @oroontheheels
      @oroontheheels Před měsícem

      @@ShandoraTheExplorer Luckily I asked a friend of mine what path is best to pick and she told me I can do both.

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +1

      @@oroontheheels all my friends who played the game are still not done with their first runs so I was kind of making all the mistakes for our little group xD

  • @lolthisisatroll
    @lolthisisatroll Před 10 dny +5

    I always want to do this but then a lot of the time shadowheart, astarion and laezel are always flaming you like "why tf are we resting so soon" like bruh we just escaped a motherfucking exploding ship yes I want to take a dam nap

  • @HobGungan
    @HobGungan Před měsícem +6

    I generally do the Grove after the second Long Rest, since I grabbed Withers first and then Karlach second (Withers I found by accident - I just wanted to see what was behind the door at the Beach; Karlach I wanted as early as possible so I looked up a spoiler-free map to her), and that's just the order I do things now.

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +3

      I love those little habits us players have 😊 anytime I go into the owlbear cave, I climb up and fetch scratch after, then I go see Astarions boar and then jump across the river to get Karlach.

    • @YuiFunami
      @YuiFunami Před 14 dny +1

      I always go grab withers asap because the companions desperately need respecs given their starting stat spreads

    • @HobGungan
      @HobGungan Před 14 dny

      @@YuiFunami I'm fine with their starting spreads. The only one I change stat-wise is Astarion and even then only because I turn him into a Bard. Shadowheart I change to Light Domain but keep her stats in tact. I had before changed Lae'Zel since I like going Eldritch Knight, but grabbing the Diadem of Intellect off of Lump after he falls in battle works better for that.

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před 14 dny

      @@YuiFunami haha true that

  • @AZhang-fb9xs
    @AZhang-fb9xs Před 24 dny +4

    so fun fact not only did i miss this dialogue, i ended up skipping the tiefling party and killed nere via suffocoation because i long rested at a bad time
    truly, my run is cursed

  • @thechicken8964
    @thechicken8964 Před měsícem +9

    I ACTULLY FORGOT ABOUT THIS.

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +2

      I have only ever seen it once and that was when I failed the check with the dying mindflayer and the rest of the party ran away to camp after reviving me :')
      but since then I always long rest after I picked up Shadowheart, Astarion and Gale to get the "Go to hell" scene xD

    • @thechicken8964
      @thechicken8964 Před měsícem +1

      @@ShandoraTheExplorer I think I did this exactly once but I wish they had that scene when you long rest after the grove cuz to me it seems a bit funny that you can talk to everyone but Gale about the new information and what will happen after.

  • @lendial
    @lendial Před měsícem +11

    jeeze SH dislikes gith, wizards, clerics, selunites, is there anything she does like besides the obvious?

  • @ErinHawethorne
    @ErinHawethorne Před měsícem +7

    What mods are you using for all of the outfits and is that tattoo a base game tattoo?

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +1

      hiii :D my mod list is in the video description :) the tattoo is game base "sinner cheekbone" or something like that
      the outfits are from "fancy camp clothing" for my Durge and "Astarion gear" for Astarion
      hers is dyed with "Jet black and pink" and his with "lush burgundy" from the Basket full of equipment NSFW mod

  • @EternityGray
    @EternityGray Před 16 dny +2

    Lol i didnt do my first long rest until after i killed all the goblins and was getting ready to go to the underdark

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před 16 dny

      Yeah, I read from a few people that they've done the same since Act I makes it seem like bad things will happen when you sleep xD

  • @LLPTV
    @LLPTV Před 10 dny

    [Gale 3]

  • @MrJohill
    @MrJohill Před měsícem +2

    What's the armor astarion has on @4:03? Which mod is that from?

  • @elisabethschmerzler963
    @elisabethschmerzler963 Před měsícem +2

    Wait do these interactions only happen before you enter the grove? It’s my first time playing and I want to get Wyll so I did the whole Grove battle and recruitment before long resting.
    I was planning on collecting everyone and then doing a long rest but now I’m not so sure

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před měsícem +2

      so far I haven't had it happen after I either entered the grove or recruited Lae'zel because by then you hear about Halsin, or Priestess Gut or the Creche and it gets replaced with the scene where Astarion ponders if Halsin/Gut/Gitch Creche can really help with the tadpole.

  • @dezyta
    @dezyta Před 24 dny

    Played it two times already and never long rested before grove. Need to do it next time. May I ask what Astarion's outfit is? saw the modlist, thank you.

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před 24 dny +1

      @@dezyta The black one is from the mod "Astarion gear" the red one too but dyed with "lush burgundy" from "basket full of equipment nsfw"

  • @SM-ys8lw
    @SM-ys8lw Před 25 dny

    i didnt get this on my durge playthrough, I wonder why, I slept right after withers prior to entering the grove

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před 25 dny

      hmm, who did you have recruited by then?

    • @SM-ys8lw
      @SM-ys8lw Před 25 dny

      @@ShandoraTheExplorer everyone before the Grove, so lae'zell, gale, astarion, and shadowheart

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před 25 dny

      @@SM-ys8lw that is odd indeed but I have no idea why you didn't get the scene :(

    • @SM-ys8lw
      @SM-ys8lw Před 25 dny

      @@ShandoraTheExplorer I got gales, just nobody else had unique dialouge, or the durge dialouge

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před 25 dny

      @@SM-ys8lw you also didn't get the durge nightmare scene? That sucks!

  • @9895_
    @9895_ Před 19 dny +1

    Do you have a mod that says which option is best?

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před 19 dny

      if you mean dialogue options and approval outcomes, yes :) there's a mod for that
      www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/2027

  • @chirp2341
    @chirp2341 Před 27 dny +2

    Is that a mod to see the approval of dialogue options?

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před 27 dny +2

      @@chirp2341 yes! I got it from nexusmods. I linked all mods I use in the video description

    • @ViRaL_Uno
      @ViRaL_Uno Před 24 dny +1

      ⁠​⁠@@ShandoraTheExplorer Do you know if it's accurate? In the Shadowheart convo you picked the top option which said (Gale 1) (Shadowheart 5) but I only saw Shadowheart Approves pop up in the top corner. Do you know if Gale actually got a +1?

    • @ShandoraTheExplorer
      @ShandoraTheExplorer  Před 24 dny +1

      @@ViRaL_Uno yes it's accurate :) there are like a few times when it isn't but those are so rare in all the hours of the game.
      The Gale Approval doesn't show because I had to cut the top part of the screen to make it full size and not cut off any dialogue options.

  • @jamminwithmonty
    @jamminwithmonty Před měsícem +4

    I didn’t see any of this because I kicked Gale out 😅