Ep:119 THE GREAT STATIN CON: IF THIS HURTS YOUR HEAD, IT'S SUPPOSED TO!!! - by Robert Cywes
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In 2014, at age 56, had bypass surgery and a pacemaker put in. This, after decades of HIGH CARB AND LOW FAT, because I wanted to be “healthy”. I have no family history of heart disease and I exercised religiously. Took statins for a year post op. Felt even worse. So 4 years ago put the statins in the garbage. Went HIGH FAT LOW CARB. At age 62, NEVER FELT BETTER IN MY LIFE.
Thank you dr for the honest vid and having the courage to enlighten us all.
STATINS ARE POISON AND TOTALLY USELESS.
Amen🙏
Me, too. Except low-dose statin, but should probably throw it away just like you did.
@@harryforsha3295 statins crush your body’s ability to make CoQ10 and dolichol. 2 substances for good health. Google them, may help you decide. Also, clean water is the best blood thinner. Lots of sun for Vit D.
I have been fighting on and off for years with my doctor about statins, she said if you don't take this you are going to be dead at sixty like your parents so I took them, last visit I mentioned to her that I could barely walk, she wasn't overly concerned, after watching you Dr Cywes and Dr Nadir Ali, I stopped taking them, within four days I was walking almost normal again, have gone low Carb and fasting, I'm down 10 Kilo and feeling a lot better. Have at least another 20 Kilos or more to go but finally feel I can do this.
As Mark Twain said, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics (ok, I did write this before I just heard it).
I had a CT scan last summer for spots on my lungs (I'm a nonsmoker), but the pathologist cites everything he sees one which was a severe fatty liver which after 4 months on keto and losing my belly fat I am hopeful is getting much better.
But it also showed severe coronary calcification, so I had my doctor order a CAC test so I could get a number to quantify it. Well the score was 474, not good, and so my doctor (a young man) wanted to immediately put me on a statin. My answer was no.
I'll see him next month for my yearly physical and haven't seen him for a year and he will be surprised at my weight loss. I'm also off of 3 of my 4 high blood pressure meds (working on the final one) and when that's done I'll be on no medications at all. I've made myself responsible for my own health and my own health choices rather simply meekly comply with my doctors next prescription pill fix.
Great job! 👏👏👏
I’m a nurse .. I have been reprimanded multiple times for suggesting an alternative to standard medical care, mainly keto diet and intermittent fasting, and walking or wading for exercise. Only discuss this for patients who request an alternative. I’m told this lifestyle is unsustainable and that I’m killing people. But guess what... when a doctor is sick they really want to know the alternatives because they are aware, at least at some level, how toxic those meds are. Medicine IS lifesaving sometimes but for most chronic diseases money and resources should go to quality food and lifestyle changes. Thank you doc for allowing people to make a truly informed decision. 💕
And to Steve - wonderful job. 🎉🎊🎉you are proof it works and an inspiration to many.
Steve
I was 10+ yrs on one HBP med and asked my doctors "WHAT can I do to get off or get my BP DOWN to normal"
NONE gave me a direct answer.....just the basic
- loose some weight
- eat veggies and a "well rounded diet"
- exercise
Well I was doing all that .....NOTHING changed
Id ask them "WHAT is HBP"? "WHAT causes it"?
Again no real answers and a lot of 'We dont know'
ONE Fing week on high fat keto (but took me two weeks to believe it)
......100% OFF BP Med
Seven years now
This last yr
High Fat Carnivore
A PHD "student" working in cancer research once told me : lies, big lies and medical statistics.
So true - took my mother off statins one year ago, and started her on low carb. She’s 76yrs with heart failure... she’s doing amazingly better in all areas. It’s truly a miracle!!!
She’s was quite ill and life was a misery. Her ejection fraction improved from 30% to 51% - it’s been a real life changer! She’s nearly back to normal, and we’ve had to reduce her diuretics. Edema is gone!
Also, her weight dropped from 82kg to 62kg in 10months and she couldn’t really exercise or walk properly for the first 7months.
Diabetes improved A1c almost normal and insulin dropped from 70 units to 10 units per day. No more sugar spikes or hypos.
I have my mother back, it’s great 😀
Just to add, we also use 150mg Ubiquinol (morning and night), 1000mg omega 3, magnesium oratate 400mg (morn and night) and keep vitamin D in the higher range by checking blood work regularly.
Thank you for taking such good care of your mother!
Here in descending order are the worst adverse effects from using Statins:
3. Muscle Pain
2. Cognitive problems
1. Your doctor telling you it's all in your head and you should just keep taking them, because no one else is reporting these effects.
Just Rusty Don't forget Rhabdomyolysis - fatal if not treated right away!
It caused my mum to have peripheral nerve damage. She is 85 years old. She does not need it at all.
@@sylviaking8866 I had peripheral nerve problems also.
My cardiologist just prescribed a station for me... I'll take my chances & rely on my dietary changes instead. I have a strong family history of Alzheimer's, so NO, THANK YOU.
Good idea. You should ask your cardiologist to provide you with clinical evidence for the efficacy for your condition and age group. We all have a right to be informed patients.
I observe friends, and gently instruct them on a LCHF diet. You would think I have three heads. They say, oh, that's my downfall, I could never give up my potato or candy. Yet, they would rather make appointments with the doctor, get scared of the bloodwork, and then start taking everything that is prescribed. Make appointments, miss appointments, reschedule, rush on a day that you may not make it on time, get prescribed medication, the pharmacy is out, but will have it in a week, but the day it's ready, you can't get there until the next day or the day after that. God forbid that we would get sleep, eat the proper human diet and exercise. Much preferable to take meds, go to the doctor, reevaluate meds, get new meds, miss appointments, reschedule, go to the pharmacy late at night and so on. I'm 66 and on no meds. Not to say I'm perfect by any stretch, but everyone thinks I should be on something. Why? So they can feel better about themselves not wanting to take care of themselves? I'm almost 6' and 152lbs. It wasn't always like this. I gave up drinking three years ago and lost over 40lbs. Started getting sleep, and exercise. Not only weight loss, but BP went from 190/120 to 117/60, without meds. I could even get worked up, and my BP would stay within range.
A statistically complicated presentation that requires the audience to pay attention, but worth the effort to understand what is really going on. Thanks Doc.
As he mentions in the video Dr David Diamond does concise youtube presentations in detail about this statin scandal well worth your time.
Told my doc I was quitting them, he freaked! My cardiologist was like ok, cya in a year.”.
Doc, great to hear you called 'bullshit' out on this nasty drug! My father passed away over four back from cardiac arrest. My mom told me he was on the highest dosage of statins for his age at 77. Reducing the LDL, also caused low T and prostate problems. I suppose it's better to be dead in this situation, than to be barely alive in this state of being!
I stopped taking statins 19 months ago, much to the dismay of my doctor.
I just stopped.... Not worth the risk
I quit this lady Christmas! Have you had any testing done to see improvements?
Good on you..
I was in a grad school advanced biochemistry course when statins were introduced. Academic cholesterol researchers from a local medical school came to lecture. They were going to lecture on the biochemistry of this very important compound, but were stunned that pharma wanted to deplete humans of cholesterol. One of the biggest hoaxes in pharmaceutical history. I watch friends and family go on statins and lose their energy and lose muscle strength. Like you and your viewers, I love reading science, but my son tells me, "Mom, no one cares about science." 😪
It's all about the money. Cholesterol is no different than oxygen in my opinion. It is essential to human life so why are "experts" trying to restrict it? Your son is right. Nobody cares
Over a year ago I started Intermittent Fasting and an Low Carb/High Fat diet. As a result, I've lost over70 pounds, I'm no longer Insulin Resistant, I don't need medication for high blood pressure, and I have far more energy. Several months back I quit statins. My muscles no longer ache after a 5+ mile walk and I feel a lot better. Unfortunately my Doctor wanted me to switch to a Low Fat/High Carb diet and continue taking statins. Let's see my Doctor wants me to return to a diet and medication that caused the problems in the first place!!! Much to her dismay I refused. I can only hope that some day the AMA will recognize that they have it backwards.
What good is living longer if you have dementia or Alzheimer's the last 5 to 10 years?
Destroying family estates, I guess.
Exactly, Deb - my mom is going through this currently. She is only 76 and has had dementia for at least 8 years with the last 6 years spent in a memory facility. I am doing all I can to not have the same fate
@@aprilek6003 Check out Dr. Mary Newport. Coconut Oil and Ketosis will save your brain.
@@CelineNoyce Thanks Emily I know about Mary Newport and her husband. I'm on it
I have researched this fully (as well as a lay person is able) because when I went KETO a few years ago my Cholesterol went up. Of course I have fought off my doctor as well as a cardiologist because my Triglycerides are 90 and my HDL is 74. I think David Diamond is wonderful as well as others I have researched. This was a well done video to help those that aren't aware that all BIG PHARMA wants is money and they truly don't care about our health!
Finally someone saying what I have known all along. I'm an old nurse and this statin thing has bothered me for a long time. My daughter called me the other day and said her Dr wanted to put her on statins I told her no don't do it. Simplified, when you walk into a Dr's office there are 3 things they say, your bp is to high, your cholesterol is to high and your borderline diabetic. Here are the first 3 drugs you need, statin, bp med and diabetic med. Invest in all 3 I say. I'm sorry your either a diabetic or your not. I don't believe in borderline.
I believe in borderline diabetes, but I also think that the level for it is far, far lower than what doctors would consider. It's too late if you've got elevated blood sugars, you are already diabetic, even if it's only slightly elevated. There are much better blood markers that will show progression of the disease far in advance of blood sugar.
I discovered Dr Cywes today. Binge watching!😊
Thank you doc for sharing your wisdom. The world needs more of you. You sound South African?
Some details: The study used "propensity score overlap weighting" to fudge the numbers. For example, the statin users were indeed 3.5 times as likely as the non-users to have started with a high baseline cholesterol. The study then *projected* that this means they were far more likely to die had they not taken statins to reduce their cholesterol. BUT, does high cholesterol even HAVE a propensity to cause you to die sooner? Nope, in fact the opposite is true, which one can see if you google "cholesterol as a risk factor for mortality in elderly women". So the study took something which should have been an advantage (higher cholesterol), declared it to be a significant disadvantage, and used this as justification to present a conclusion that was the opposite of the raw data.
Thanks so much. Learned something!
My doctor has tried for years to get me to take a statin. Refused. Now trying to get my husband off a statin. 🙏 Forwarding this video to him.
Type 1 diabetic since 1970 here. In 2018 I hurt my feet slightly walking up steep hills in Lincoln on a visit to England. Got a free appointment at an NHS clinic. No complaints about the doctor or the service except: horror that I was not on a statin. I should have just lied and claimed to be on Lipitor. Instead I lied and said I’d get my doctor back home to prescribe a statin.
19:50 "Live long and healthy, and then die"
You should get a whiteboard to put behind you for these types of videos. Would be very helpful for me anyway... Keep rocking, doc. Thanks for all the hard work and honest advice.
I'm so done with statins! I'm going to be retesting in January and Dr is going to tell me if it's ok I took myself off statins after losing 100 pounds. I'm not going back on statins !!!
I have known about the statin scam for years ever since watching Statin Nation on Netflix. However, my doctor has been hellbent on getting me on them “to protect my heart” for almost as long. Finally I had a bright idea that might work for you too. I took the prescription from her, filled it at the pharmacy (I have a drug plan which I hardly ever use so it only cost a few bucks). When I got home I threw the meds in the trash. I waited about a week and a half and then called my doctor’s office and told her nurse that I’ve been having lots of joint pain and wondering if it could be a side effect of the new medication? (It is one of the most common side effects). A couple of hours later I got a call from the office. Doctor said to discontinue use. Problem solved!
That is how I proceed with my doctors now... guerrilla tactics to maintain your health. I tell them I have symptoms I don't have so I can get the tests and or blood tests that *I* have deemed necessary. Then I tell them, the symptoms went away.
It didn't work for me because my doctor say's I'm Exaggerating.
@@papag1961 Sheesh! What right does your doctor have to say something like that to you?
@@papag1961Not a problem. FIRE that doctor and go find another one who will work with you.
"There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics" LOVE IT - Good old relative risk verses absolute risk - so many people just don't get it - I am tired of trying to explain it. People keep taking medications just because your doctor gives you a prescription.
Very timely. I have been keto/carnivore for over 2 years. My cholesterol levels were higher at last labs. My naturopath said she was concerned about levels, and wanted to do a plaque test. I just got results back from LA PLA2 test showing a high 169 level. I am sure she'll want me to go on statins, and follow up with additional testing at the clinic. I was honestly very surprised about my results, and trust my carnivore diet, but am confused on going forward.
Please watch Dr Nadir Ali on this subject. He is an honest MD (cardiologist) like Dr Cywes..
m.czcams.com/video/o_QdNX9etCg/video.html
169 not that bad. Did you get the CT with contrast dye? That one will show narrowing and or hardening of arteries. If you don't have any true blockages, requiring stenting, I say carry on~and recheck in a couple of years. That's what I'm doing
wouldn't a Salt pile do the same ? make you live longer
Our doc said that this stopping statins is fine for some, but because my husband has already had a heart attack (18 yrs ago) he should keep taking them. We eat Keto and he's lost 80 lbs. He's willing to cut back his Rd by half but hesitates to stop statins completely. I think our doc is covering his liability with the CMA (Canadian) and must prescribe this drug.
Was told had heart disease, electronics in my heart was off they put in pace maker 10 years ago, battery life still good, also put on blood pressure meds and statins same time. Don’t really believe I needed any of this. Mother’s side of family heavy Alzheimer’s problem. Mother and two sisters died from it. My cardiologist is wanting to put me on another statin to get my cholesterol even lower, it’s good now. I’m starting to ween myself off statins. See her again in March with new blood work. These things are bad.
Thank you for making this video!!
5:18
Comparing (A+B) with A instead of comparing A with B is more common as you may think.
The latter is honest, and the former is prone to statistical paradoxes.
As a scientist, simply chose to your needs.
You are not just good YOU ARE DAMN GOOD 👍 THANKYOU💖🤗 I have always had feeling's and questions why when doctors prescribe medication and have always been fobed off with thing's that don't make sense,I'm so pleased iv found you,you are encouraging and inspiring
Thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
great information...
Grazie mille Doc. I consider you an essential resource in my medical school journey. Bravo, come sempre!
Don't repeat anything in ur med school exams....u will fail😁🧠
I would confirm what he says, Zoe is brilliant. I would recommend watching any of her CZcams videos
If you are in the 70-80 yr old group and on a statin for “high cholesterol and moderate (54) CAC score” should you stop cold turkey or gradually reduce to zero? Thanks for all you do!
Cold turkey
54 is really low for her age
Stopping is fine in my experience
I’ve been on keto for over a year, dropped 80 pounds, my blood pressure’s normal again, I’m no longer pre-diabetic and my CAC score was 0. But my latest bloodwork showed my cholesterol has shot up. My doctor has frightened me telling me it’s dangerously high & that I need to take statins. I thought I was doing everything right for my health by going LCHF. I don’t want to take statins because both my parents had Alzheimer’s, but now I’m scared and I don’t know what to do.
Don't do it. There was a just a study out that suspects the increase in cholesterol on keto is due to your cell wall releasing cholesterol that it was using to shore up the cell wall (necessary when you are not eating saturated fat). This could explain the high cholesterol on keto.
They probably have read the little book: How to Lie with Statistics. Sure they´re tremendously good at that!!!
Relative vs absolute numbers
Excellent video !!
I went from 203 lbs to 150 lbs after 6 months on low carb high fat and my cholesterol went up to 899. Ive had 4 heart attacks and 1 stroke. Now im on 40 mgs of Rosuvastatin and i cant find a Doctor to stop proscribing statins on me and I changed Doctors 4 times. I'm screwed 😢😢
I couldn’t support those pharmaceutical companies even to make money!
I would call relative risk measurements bullshit, but that would be an insult to bullshit. After all, bullshit is at least useful in that it is a great fertilizer.
Thank you
My husband says that saying about statistics all the time; you're to only person I've ever heard use it too!
Eye-opening - stunning.
I'm 57 and had a heart attack last year after 7 years low carb, last 2 carnivore. A stent in my 98% occluded LAD saved my life. Now I'm on statins and beta blockers and I am totally confused, I have no clue what too eat or whether to continue the meds or not.
Thank you!!
thank u sir
As an RN FOR 31 years now...I tried to teach this crap to a burgeoning Cardiologist...with ZERO plausibility in his eyes.
Now...he's finally relearning,. Everything he learned on Medical school...he's given up medicine 💊...and now does medical business work..of some kind.
He won't talk to me about medical issues...any longer.
Very interesting.
Im assuming that they "all" died. "if you manipulate the data long and hard enough you can reach any conclusion you desire" no kidding
This Doc has the nuts.
So should you go off 20 mgs atorvastatin if you had a 150 calcium score and just started using keto 20 grams total to fix prediabetes?
I had a Dr. tell me that if she could have statins put in the water supply she would. What do you think of that? I have refused to take a statin.
Not rare. With some physicians, statin use is a religion and they’re its evangelists...
Zoe is great. Fiber? Pfffff.
Sounds like purdue pharma, oxy
Why does JAMA publish a paper with what is obviously skewed results? Doesn't someone that works there read over the material to see if it's legit? Or is the fact that it was a done study mean, to them, that they don't need to fact check?
But my bad cholesterol is 384. What am I supposed to do for that? I mean I'm scared! So my Dr said I have to try statins. I began this week. If I don't take them will I die? Been keto for one year. Lost 70 lbs. 45 to go.
Absolute BS!!! Love it 😂
Has Dr Cywes ever done a video on the APOE4 gene? Or even Blood Type. Apparently Type A and APOE4 shouldnt eat saturated fat. Id like to hear his opinion on it.
APOE4 needs to avoid inflammation, the reason why they're "supposed to" avoid saturated fat is because all of the studies around it are comparing high inflammation SAD mixed macro diets to high carb low fat diets, of course there will be less inflammation if you lower the fat. You get the same effects eating low carb high fat as well, but only the latter is our ancestrally appropriate diet ;) I'm APOE3/4 and I've got no concerns with eating a high fat diet, especially with how satiated I am, I hated snacking all day and feeling hungry constantly on a high carb diet!
Also there's no real differences with blood type with the research I've done, I personally know carnivores of every blood type.
Dr Rob, CAC score (2019) is 450, only mild to some moderate stenosis per iv contrast scan. threw away my Crestor, Vassepa and Repatha. Been keto 2+ years carnivore 6 months. Any other suggestions? I do plan to request another CT later this year, hoping to not see any disease progression, and maybe even improvement!
Let me translate this to you all: Statins are useless
Amen!
If only that was the case -- they CAUSE health problems.
I love you
💚
I am very confused my Dr had a serious words with me two months ago I have been prescribed atorvastatin 40mg Clopidogrel 75mg after TIA. I am thinking of taking the Clopidogrel and drop the astatin tablet.
I am in healthy weigth and very active 40 year old ans I have been on low carb high fat diet over 12months My blood test come back remaracable Dr's own word.
No high cholesterol no high blood pressure but still didn't explain why I have to take those med's. Can anyone have similar experience?
did you test for PFO?
Dr Cywes does this in several videos. He tries to present numbers comparing categories without actually presenting any table or chart for the viewer to see. He ends up verbally going over the numbers in a manner difficult for the listener to absorb. He really really really needs to somehow get a table or chart into the video. I don't care if he holds up a whiteboard in front the camera, to prints out a spreadsheet and puts it on camera for a minute. He needs to master whatever technique he can afford, to make the presentation more visual, not entirely verbal.
I like Dr Cywes and his information is valuable. So I am not trying to tear him down. I am suggesting a way to make the presentation better so that he can reach more people and do more good.
He tells you the study. If you weren’t so lazy , you would look them up
That is so deceitful and so dangerous that the authors of the report should be jailed.
Statin makers funded this?
Liars lie. Statistics are their tool.
The great lie!
Robert.. why does any of this surprise you...as an MD?
Really? You need an army behind you now...to "even teach this material". This is obvious to me...reading and really understanding since 1984-5'ish...
You need to set up clinics in every state...every country.. and call the clinics....
"BULL SH%T...LEARN WHY!"
smdh