MSI's 2080 Ti Lightning Z - A Strange Beast!

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024

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  • @buzzcrave5017
    @buzzcrave5017 Před 5 lety +80

    You can buy two of my PC’s for that price.

    • @sidewinder86ify
      @sidewinder86ify Před 5 lety +12

      Or 6 good used gaming PC's that still kicks ass in 60FPS 1080P Ultra.

    • @kidShibuya
      @kidShibuya Před 5 lety +5

      @@sidewinder86ify yeah id still rather the card...

    • @otto5423
      @otto5423 Před 5 lety +3

      @@sidewinder86ify 1080p 60 fps... I would rather buy this card

  • @Frank-rf6dq
    @Frank-rf6dq Před 5 lety +56

    I swear it's a competition to make the most expensive cards now!

    • @anthonysmith6413
      @anthonysmith6413 Před 3 lety

      erase the "d" and you see another industry where it has been like that forever.

  • @DawidDoesTechStuff
    @DawidDoesTechStuff Před 5 lety +75

    I think us gamers should go on strike and stop buying any GPU's until manufactures drop pricing. Awesome card but way too expensive.

    • @RealDaviii
      @RealDaviii Před 5 lety +11

      if people keep spending 1300 bucks on a new iphone every year do you really think most of the people care that much about the price ? theyll still buy it becasue its the best out there.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff Před 5 lety +7

      @@RealDaviii The thing is that Apple's sales figures are falling, they are struggling more than normal to sell their phones.

    • @RealDaviii
      @RealDaviii Před 5 lety +4

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff you didnt get my point it doesnt matter. people bought it anyway it sold it sold last generation it sold the other generations too.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff Před 5 lety

      @@RealDaviii Oh okay, I understand now. Like with Pascal after Turning was launched?

    • @Nexas_
      @Nexas_ Před 5 lety +1

      Or buy used

  • @jerrywatson1958
    @jerrywatson1958 Před 5 lety +31

    Thanks for reminding folks to come back down to earth. I like the Radeon VII at least I know where half the cost of the card goes for 16Gb HBM2 memory. I do not find anything compelling in this series from Nvidia. To think people thought the prices were bad before. Now that mining has crashed Nvidia is trying to keep record revenues up while sales are falling. It makes AMD look even better, a few frames different are not worth +40% price increase.

    • @cityofplant
      @cityofplant Před 5 lety +1

      Jerry Watson i wish they stick the price range like previous gtx 970. If the whole 3.5gb doesnt happened, i’m sure it was the best bang per buck for the gpu with that spec in 2014.

    • @toobad2917
      @toobad2917 Před 5 lety +1

      And the cheap amd freesync monitors!

  • @krizby87
    @krizby87 Před 5 lety +11

    You need to modify the VF curve in MSI afterburner to get to 1.093v, that will get you another 45mhz out of the chip.

    • @SuperHell99
      @SuperHell99 Před 4 lety

      What kind of curve is best for this card?

  • @fuzzion5999
    @fuzzion5999 Před 5 lety +2

    Just wanna thank you for reviewing SFF Cases and other ITX stuff so in depth that I actually just ordered an Ncase M1 and im damn excited to build in it!

  • @BurnoutsAndBourbon
    @BurnoutsAndBourbon Před 5 lety +10

    Building a ghost s1 within the month thanks to you

    • @zoomzabba452
      @zoomzabba452 Před 5 lety

      What cooler? I'm thinking about a Ghost running a Cryorig C7 and Noctua NF-F12x25PWM with a 3d printed adapter. That way you get good cpu and VRM cooling for a decent overclock on something like a 8600k.

    • @3msandpaper601
      @3msandpaper601 Před 5 lety

      I've bought my Ghost over the new year and just waiting for it arrive at my door :D

  • @fabiusmaximuscunctator7390

    So, just buy it, right? Right?

  • @L0rd_0f_War
    @L0rd_0f_War Před 5 lety +2

    Last high end somewhat bang-for-buck card was 1080Ti, which is still relevant today and holds its value compared to the 20 series. I hope Nvidia will learn from its latest financial troubles and falling revenues & share prices to try and come up with more consumer friendly prices for higher end cards. For now, I am glad Nvidia is getting wrecked financially for the poor choices they made in pushing super-expensive RTX cards on consumers.

  • @GF3HG
    @GF3HG Před 5 lety +2

    there is a copper pipe under the backplate because carbon fibre will block the heat dissipation

  • @Lefty3213a
    @Lefty3213a Před 5 lety

    I WANT ONE! But where the heck are ppl seeing these being sold for 1600 USD? I see them on Ebay for 3,000 and amazon for even more than that. Like I have yet to find any priced at 1600

  • @kmg501
    @kmg501 Před 5 lety +2

    I have no interest in buying that but if I did I would just water cool it and not mess with air cooling. Either that or I would down clock it to keep it between 55 to 60c. Anything over that I will not run at despite whatever the manufacture states.

  • @sakarivaariskoski7700
    @sakarivaariskoski7700 Před 5 lety +2

    If you want equal or even better performance for cheaper, just get the reference card and a custom air or liquid cooler for it. Since Nvidia tends to reserve the best binned chips for their own cards, they have the best overclocking potential.
    This card really doesn't make any sense value wise and it doesn't help it looks awful compared to the cheaper Aorus Xtreme for example.

    • @coffee7180
      @coffee7180 Před 5 lety

      No never buy a reference RTX card gamer nexus already did a video about it, it's hard to open that shit, to much glue.

  • @karlchristianbognot1842
    @karlchristianbognot1842 Před 5 lety +2

    now remove that big heatsink and put the Kraken G12 with the X72 on it

  • @TheWretchedWorld
    @TheWretchedWorld Před 5 lety +20

    All that money and this card still has micron gddr6.

    • @cityofplant
      @cityofplant Před 5 lety +1

      TheWretchedWorld oof

    • @170adamb1
      @170adamb1 Před 5 lety +2

      It has Samsung.

    • @TheWretchedWorld
      @TheWretchedWorld Před 5 lety +1

      @@170adamb1 There have been teardowns and most have micron. Still not worth the gamble on a premium card I'd expect Samsung only on this SKU.

    • @170adamb1
      @170adamb1 Před 5 lety

      @@TheWretchedWorld Hi mate I've got one. Gpu-z says it's Samsung. Most of the reviews I've seen (and I've seen them all) say the same but maybe they are putting micron in some of them, pretty shit move if they are :-(

    • @Podos94
      @Podos94 Před 5 lety

      no, i have one and mine has samsung memory

  • @sebastianvangen
    @sebastianvangen Před 5 lety +2

    Does anyone know how the temperature and noise is for the MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB SEA HAWK X?

  • @akbartanjung391
    @akbartanjung391 Před 5 lety

    Honestly previously the model very nice 1080ti Lightning Z,so amazing in past time

  • @JamesRussoMillas
    @JamesRussoMillas Před 5 lety

    Can't wait for people to review the KingPin models

  • @FordGTmaniac
    @FordGTmaniac Před 5 lety

    I'm building a gaming rig with the aim of cramming as much hardware in it as I can while still maintaining functionality. With this card, there's only 6mm of clearance lengthwise for it to fit, so that sounds about right. It's a stupid reason to buy a GPU, but whatever...

  • @mauriceg4354
    @mauriceg4354 Před 5 lety

    My Founders 2080ti can reach 2070 MHz but I stopped because of temperatures reaching 88C. Just need to get a water block later. I spent most of my budget on the graphics card.

  • @MrBerry1404
    @MrBerry1404 Před 5 lety

    The problem about hardware-mods on the 2080ti is the locking mechanisam for power on the pcie side. If you want to know more look at buildzoid who tried to unlock it for one of his patreons.

  • @chads7796
    @chads7796 Před 5 lety

    Might be interesting to compare this to the EVGA 2080ti Kingpin. But, I am willing to bet you would reach the same conclusion...overpriced niche product for LN2 or professional OCers. Love your content by the way..in particular your SFF/ITX stuff. Great content as always and I look forward to the growth of your channel as it is clearly TOP NOTCH.

  • @Juggernautdemon
    @Juggernautdemon Před 5 lety +14

    The MSI duke has the same performance ( sometimes better ) and offers pretty much the same cooling for a lot less. This card is such a waste.

    • @lindkvist9588
      @lindkvist9588 Před 5 lety

      Yeah this card is useless since msi aren't allowed by Nvidia to provide unlocked drivers for it. So weird

    • @Lefty3213a
      @Lefty3213a Před 5 lety

      to be fair its an ascetic thing xD cuz the lightning looks hella sexier than the duke (i has duke so im allowed to say that)

    • @bobbywhite6208
      @bobbywhite6208 Před 5 lety

      @@Jolinator bullshit, ran my fans at 100% 24/7 even while idle on my old gpu and still works fine to this day

    • @Juggernautdemon
      @Juggernautdemon Před 5 lety

      @@Lefty3213a That "sexier" isn't worth anywhere near the $400 extra you pay for it.

    • @Lefty3213a
      @Lefty3213a Před 5 lety

      @@Juggernautdemon of course it is! It's like buying a luxary car.

  • @MrEmirMansouri
    @MrEmirMansouri Před 5 lety

    I love your videos but really disapointed that you are diverting from the SFF PC's. Im not trying to say what you are doing is wrong but it would have been nice for the SFF PC builders out there to gave more content. I know there arent many SFF cases or hardware out there at the moment and maybe thats why. I do have a question though, which 2080Ti watercooled would fit in the NCASE M1 case. I am currently running a delidded and pre-binned 5.2GHz 8700K with a watercooled Titan Pascal GPU and wnated to upgrade it to a 2080Ti. I liked your video regarding the Asrock Phantom motherboard and 9900K that I am also thinking of buying them, but after doing some research and watching more of your videos, it doesnt seem it is worth it. So kind of undecided, and if there is a doubt, better to wait for something really worth upgrading to.

  • @Gimpad
    @Gimpad Před 5 lety

    Could you post a teardown video? There doesn't seem to be any such footage around.

  • @ajay3367
    @ajay3367 Před 5 lety

    What about doing custom water cooling on this gpu and test how far can it go that will be sick to see

  • @mrpoowel7084
    @mrpoowel7084 Před 5 lety

    I'd like to see one of Palit's 2,7 slot card like 2080 jetstream / gamerock. I'm impressed on my 1080 jetstream thermals and like to see how new series woks :D

  • @richarddavies3213
    @richarddavies3213 Před 5 lety

    Out of the boost speeds aren't great on that card for the price, even my 2x 2080 Ti FE cards automatically boost and maintain higher than that on the stock cooler!. My top card auto boosts to 2010mhz and settles around 1905/1920mhz, my bottom one auto boosts to a max of 1980mhz but settles to 1905/1920mhz as well, and that's before I even touch the fan speed or overclocking settings.

  • @anupamkakkar
    @anupamkakkar Před 5 lety

    What about founders edition?Are they not best?

  • @atnfn
    @atnfn Před 5 lety

    Is that real gold? The lightning trim on the front?

  • @magicrip65
    @magicrip65 Před 5 lety

    hi good job ,a question for you, I have the same card but only has clock 1770mhz ?? Why do you write 1830mhz in the video? Do you have a new bios ??

  • @WAFFLES081
    @WAFFLES081 Před 5 lety

    Is there any shot of this fitting in the Ncase m1? Since that does have the 3 slots and maybe some space. Or is the PCB too tall for that case?

  • @TheIceJester
    @TheIceJester Před 5 lety

    Cant wait to have mine !

  • @MikVision
    @MikVision Před 3 lety

    would you be able to do the deschroud mod in it?
    I wanna put it in my NR200 and use case fans to cool it

  • @ammaralammouri1270
    @ammaralammouri1270 Před 5 lety

    U just made me change my mind , I will go with sea hawk x , thanks

  • @mkusanagi
    @mkusanagi Před 5 lety

    I mean. It costs more than my entire computer. In fact, it's more than my computer, HTPC, and FreeNAS box, combined

  • @claudiubaraian5160
    @claudiubaraian5160 Před 5 lety

    any aib high end cards like this one seems bad imo, because nvidia is keeping the best silicon for themselves so you would be better off buying a founder card

  • @cityofplant
    @cityofplant Před 5 lety +1

    I’m just here waiting for my next paycheck to go buy a gtx 1070 for my r5 1600 *cries*

  • @tsujimasen
    @tsujimasen Před 5 lety

    Did you touch voltage?

  • @Joseph-xh9ir
    @Joseph-xh9ir Před 5 lety +8

    Fat card that
    big bummer

  • @openm1ndead
    @openm1ndead Před 5 lety +3

    Ridiculously large and fat card I guess. 4K craziness, what have you done?!
    *ITX stuff lover quits commenting

  • @m00nshake
    @m00nshake Před 5 lety

    Does this perform similar to the Msi X Trio Variant

  • @spyderlogan4992
    @spyderlogan4992 Před 5 lety +5

    Nowhere in the presentation is the minimum PSU required to power this board...

    • @NamelessONEMail
      @NamelessONEMail Před 5 lety +4

      It does not consume much more than a normal 2080Ti ... at most another 5-10% extra power. If you don't OC your CPU heavily you can use a 650W PSU though I'd recommend 750-850W cause I expect people spending this kind of stupid money on a GPU will have an overkill system to match.

    • @soapa4279
      @soapa4279 Před 5 lety

      Quality 650W min, suggested 750W. Easy. Even 650W has some overhead.

    • @optimumtech
      @optimumtech  Před 5 lety +1

      6:17 - shows total system power consumption.

    • @spyderlogan4992
      @spyderlogan4992 Před 5 lety +1

      @@optimumtechThe slide is barely 2 seconds long , I blinked, and it was gone; that must be why I missed it. Apologies. Please make it a little longer if you have the chance. Thanks.

    • @philippschweizer8013
      @philippschweizer8013 Před 5 lety

      @@optimumtech So a 2070 is only270w power consumption.. And I was thinking about upgrading my 80+gold 500w psu lol. No need for that at all I see

  • @runtrat9
    @runtrat9 Před 5 lety

    Know us too well. 6:16

  • @magicalminis597
    @magicalminis597 Před 5 lety

    $1600 USD and $2600 AUD?! No freaking way!

  • @larslovestech
    @larslovestech Před 5 lety

    $1600 gets you a pretty decent spec PC...and they want that for a single enthusiast graphics card.....some people are just born stupid and you would have to sit in that category if you were to decide to purchase this ridiculous behemouth...imagine in SLI...$3200...WTF...in fact optimum do you think you could make a video based on what type of PC you could build for the same price and then attempt to show their performance levels against each other that would be awesome
    thanks for a great vid

  • @Deliverygirl
    @Deliverygirl Před 5 lety

    I see absolutely no reason to buy this card over any other 2080Ti, at that price tag. It's honestly ridiculous, probably just aimed at people trying to flex on others on who has the most expensive GPU.

  • @faizizz4062
    @faizizz4062 Před 5 lety

    Asus ROG Matrix 2080 Ti next please?

  • @KunaiKrazy
    @KunaiKrazy Před 5 lety

    If only these prices weren't ridiculous, I'd sell my old TI and upgrade this generation.

  • @TalelSghaier
    @TalelSghaier Před 5 lety +1

    yeah a strange pricey beast you mean ?

  • @MrRicardoax01
    @MrRicardoax01 Před 5 lety

    Whoa... three 8 pin power connectors!

  • @ohmyTalal
    @ohmyTalal Před 5 lety

    I am watching this while receiving the Msi Lightning Z 😂

    • @goose9246
      @goose9246 Před 5 lety

      ohmyTalal where did you buy it?

    • @lintlickers
      @lintlickers Před 4 lety

      Goose he didn’t, they discontinued them, they overheated like crazy, and had limits that made them terrible. They do look cool though.

    • @lintlickers
      @lintlickers Před 4 lety

      Goose only people that got them was a hand full of tech youtubers

    • @ohmyTalal
      @ohmyTalal Před 4 lety

      Mr lintlickers I actually bought with my own money and you’re absolutely right I had overheating problems so I end up giving my brother because he’s playing on 144hz only so heat problem isn’t gonna be an issue and I bought the EVGA K|NGP|N RTX 2080 Ti and it runs 2200Mhz out of the box with maximum temps of 45C at everything maxed out with more than 240 fps in most games

  • @brotherscro
    @brotherscro Před 5 lety

    Instead of making new gpus developers should work on optimizations so we don't have to sell kidneys for new gpu's lol

  • @Sasasala386
    @Sasasala386 Před 5 lety

    Won't change my 1070ti for ANYTHING in this lineup.

  • @rossmpostpro
    @rossmpostpro Před 5 lety

    The RGB on this card completely spoils an otherwise classy looking card.

  • @yangxu2496
    @yangxu2496 Před 5 lety

    This or Gigabyte Aorus RTX 2080ti Xtreme?

    • @fidamdsaini8452
      @fidamdsaini8452 Před 5 lety

      For RGB effects Aorus Xtreme.
      for physical design/performance this.

  • @VE17OM
    @VE17OM Před 5 lety

    that link you posted is for like $4000

  • @SebastianPerez-uo8is
    @SebastianPerez-uo8is Před 5 lety

    Love all the way from Mexico

  • @lukazaberl2011
    @lukazaberl2011 Před 5 lety

    I will be able to afford this card in 10 years

  • @jondonnelly4831
    @jondonnelly4831 Před 5 lety +1

    The design looks Fugly.

  • @pocpc1788
    @pocpc1788 Před 5 lety

    Msi Christmas tree lights for $1600

  • @z6fireace
    @z6fireace Před 5 lety

    The problem here isn't just the price, it's these useless features like DXR, DLSS, Ray tracing that will cut your fps in half, I'm surprised ppl still buy RTX cards lol

  • @Jarvis_Babbit
    @Jarvis_Babbit Před 5 lety

    Nice

  • @thaddeus2447
    @thaddeus2447 Před 5 lety

    Would rather grab two used 1080 TI's and there would be money left for everything else to build a system :/

  • @stardust9329
    @stardust9329 Před 5 lety

    I'll stick to my 1080ti thanks

  • @donkaz9592
    @donkaz9592 Před 5 lety

    Please let me borrow it

  • @HDRGuy
    @HDRGuy Před 5 lety

    Yeah that card is a rip off. Whats the point of a higher TDP limit if it can't keep cool, even with that monster cooler on it. My AIO 2080ti sits at 50c 2040mhz undervolted, and costs $500 less

  • @6santaclaws9
    @6santaclaws9 Před 5 lety

    is selling for 5k on amazon lmao

  • @alexgottmituns7049
    @alexgottmituns7049 Před 5 lety

    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC ULTRA GAMING, 1200 bucks direct on their site. FREE SHIPPING.. 150 bucks less than in Amazon. I am an Am. Prime member. It's worth it: Gears of War 4 @ 1440p ULTRA everything: 180 FPS AVG. 4k?: 110 AVG
    (AVG=Average) It's worth it.

  • @campbellwatson583
    @campbellwatson583 Před 5 lety

    Nice vid

  • @lancemccarthy4751
    @lancemccarthy4751 Před 5 lety

    sucker born everyday !!!!!!!!!

  • @theone1922
    @theone1922 Před 5 lety

    I'd rather get a Titan RTX which is half the price of this shit... and way faster.

  • @_Murky_
    @_Murky_ Před 5 lety

    Zed

    • @zoomzabba452
      @zoomzabba452 Před 5 lety

      He's just pandering to the Americans, like me.

  • @JohnHughesTR
    @JohnHughesTR Před 5 lety

    Imagine complaining about rgb lulw

  • @zaheerabbas-lo2wz
    @zaheerabbas-lo2wz Před 5 lety

    im waiting 4 long time 4 this shit 2080 ti to price down and i buy this but no still high price now im going to buy amd r7 because this is the best choice thanks amd love u

  • @kidShibuya
    @kidShibuya Před 5 lety

    Why you guys all reviewing the exact same cards? How many reviews of this card is enough when there are more interesting cards like the ek Seahawk that is totally without a single review?

  • @TheImpartialTruth55
    @TheImpartialTruth55 Před 5 lety

    Gipsy-style.

  • @frostybe3r
    @frostybe3r Před 5 lety

    Feels like a gimmick and waste of money, binned worse than founders.

  • @x1x1c911
    @x1x1c911 Před 5 lety

    😭💔

  • @whitewolfaut1434
    @whitewolfaut1434 Před 5 lety

    iam so mad that i orderd this shit early on :( waste of money this card

  • @mdkgod43
    @mdkgod43 Před 5 lety

    my msi duke is faster then this an cost less lol

  • @BurntToffee755
    @BurntToffee755 Před 5 lety

    No actual bench results? What’s the point of this reviewing?

  • @gameplaybenchmarks3294

    not impressed! my rtx msi 2080 ventus can do 2055 to 2070

  • @jondoe19896091
    @jondoe19896091 Před 5 lety

    THICCC

  • @nimePK
    @nimePK Před 5 lety

    First

  • @IonicNuva
    @IonicNuva Před 5 lety

    Too bad it looks pretty ugly IMO

  • @yanivbalahani
    @yanivbalahani Před 5 lety

    just another overpriced card...

  • @Duncan23
    @Duncan23 Před 5 lety

    An even more pointless version of a pointless card

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers Před 5 lety

      The best performing gaming GPU has no point?

    • @Duncan23
      @Duncan23 Před 5 lety +1

      @@Safetytrousers it's no better than founder's cards and is 2x as expensive

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers Před 5 lety

      I took your comment to mean the 2080ti in general.

  • @tulasisarge
    @tulasisarge Před 5 lety +1

    Can you Make a Giveaway, I lost my 2 Gpu's in water damaged accidently.

    • @Jolinator
      @Jolinator Před 5 lety +4

      I crashed my lambo can you make a giveaway?