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I have studied psychology since elementary school and start college this semester. I have discovered that my abandonment issues and trust issue come from my attachment to many people that have left due to the fact that I am autistic or other personal reasons. I always have made friends with people like Hans who are only nice to me because they feel that they "have" to be. Very rarely have I found someone to be genuinely friends with like kristoff.
I know doing shows are harder and take more time but I think you should try to tackle Attack on Titan and Death Note that would be a really good watch for the both of you
In my opinion, Anna is one of the most important characters in modern animation. She is endlessly self-sacrificing and fiercely compassionate. I love that her arc isn’t overcoming grief. Instead, she uses her grief to motivate her. She loses everyone but she does the next right thing because she has to.
Precisely, much like Wanda, she loses almost everyone she loves. But unlike Wanda, Anna rises to the challenge, and doesn't let her grief consume her, and overcomes it in the end.
Yet most cannot even give her the time of day and claim she is annoying. Fanart is depressing wasteland of Goddess Elsa pics and hers being boring and uninspired.
Kristoff's line, "My love is not fragile," gets me every time. He doesn't say that Anna didn't hurt his feelings, he just assures her that even though she might have not given him the level of attention he deserved during most of the movie, he still loves her. Anna spends the whole movie afraid of losing the people she cares about and Kristoff basically saying that he loves her even when she makes mistakes shows a maturity to their love and his understanding of Anna's fear of loss/abandonment.
The love duett between Anna and Hans is actually genious when you watch it after knowing the twist in the end. Notice how it's always Anna who leads with telling him something private about herself and then he chimes in and mirrors her by saying how much he can relate and feels the same and has experienced similar things in a way that is almost matching too well to be true, but he never contributes anything about himself that brings a new aspect to the table and isn't specifically tailored to match what she said about herself before? That's a masterful manipulator at work, making her belief he is her perfect match when actually nothing that he says is true.
Yeah, at first listen, you think how perfect a fit they are that they're both thinking "sandwiches" rather than "sentences"; it's only with hindsight that you realise that, while Anna was being her quirky, adorable self, Hans never does anything surprising that she could agree or disagree with.
Yeah, also the title is creative as well. Love is an open door; love is an open door is metaphor for Anna cause love is an open door lol, but Hans version is Love is an open door to becoming king
I remember watching the movie when you find out his true intentions gasping, and listening to that song now. You can see he is manipulating her so bad, breaks my heart.
Also what i think also hinted at them not being good couple, was literally when they sung or just interacted. Singing the line love is an open door in the duet they not once were in sync, in the movie was normal for anna to walk into him in the song, and even smack him into face
It makes sense that Anna would be so desperate for a meaningful connection, after lacking affection for most of her childhood, that she'd immediately agree to marry the first guy who was kind to her. At least she managed to establish a healthier bond with the initially gruff Kristoff, shows his softer side.
Yeah and I never got the reason why people criticized Anna for that. It’s a very consistent character flaw that she clearly gets over. I’m so glad that these guys are analyzing her to this degree.
A lot of my childhood crushes were based on "he's nice to me" since I went through a lot of bullying, alienation and lack of friends at school. I totally understand Anna's naivety leaning on Hans.
@@Atlessa I wouldn't go with "hate". I'd just point out they had a pretty huge (and unique) problem to deal with in Elsa's powers. And plus, you know, running a kingdom. They loved Anna, but she wasn't going to accidently freeze the household staff.
I'm gonna dig a little deeper: When Olaf dies, the implication is that Elsa also died, because without her Olaf ceases to be. So she is sad about losing Olaf, but she realizes her sister is also probably dead. That's when she hits rock bottom.
Not to mention she realises that the dam will have to be broken and everyone in Arendelle, the kingdom that she's partially responsible for, is going to lose their homes
In the song she sings "How to rise from the floor when it's not you I'm rising for" hits really hard. Up until that point Elsa has been the most important person in Anna's life, and now she's not going to be there, she's lost her reason for living. It's easy to see why she feels so alone, lost and without purpose.
When you're grieving, the next right thing could simply be "get out of bed." Or "do the dishes." Simple, everyday tasks become so hard. This song I think was written by someone who has been there.
@Josie Violett im doing better, yes- i moved out and across the country about two and a half years ago as soon as i had a degree, job, and enough money to start out. Like, I love my mom, but It's really still best if i love her through a phone and across a continent.
I never lost someone close to me and experienced grieving in that way. But having been through a traumatic an turbulent childhood that song really hits hard.
Kristen Bell said in the Disney+ series about the making of Frozen 2: "This mantra of “do the next right thing” came out of a conversation that [writer & director Jennifer Lee] and I had really early on about my anxiety and depression… …and I think, "do the next right thing," it really is for anyone who is feeling low and struggling and does not know what to do, because the only thing you can do at those lowest moments is one step at a time… …when I’m experiencing that, for me if I wake up and I’m feeling very low, all I gotta do is step out of bed. And then the next right thing is to brush my teeth. And then the next right thing is to get a cup of coffee. And then the next right thing is to wake my kids up. And I take those steps incrementally when the world and its problems seem too big for me to handle. …and it’s a song that will affect me, in my bones, forever."
"He reflects her language back at her" he's a mirror. yes, he's a villain but he's a mirror he mirrors the personality/traits of those around him to fit the situation
@@Jimmyvida didn't know that- and I apologize for a lack of details explaining what my original comment meant I'm not good with details, it was another youtube's theory that when I watched their video just fit Hans.
Like Jimmy said; in the original fairytale, it's a brother and sister and the Ice Queen freezes the boy's heart with a shard from her ice mirror and the sister melts it with a hug. So yeah, I kinda liked the twist where they kept Hans as a mirror to Anna and Elsa.
Narcissists tend to mirror their victims & children of narcissists who decide to be 'people pleasers' also learn to mirror others in order to benefit themselves / avoid pain. Mirroring is a real thing people do, but only damaged / broken people learn that behavior.
Hans upstages Anna all throught their song. He's constantly pushing into her lines, stepping over her musical toes, trying to go harder, hold a note longer, louder.
@@amyliaclenny1866 the point is that, despite seeming to be an equal duet which reflects their apparent chemistry for each other, Hans constantly upstaging Anna throughout what is supposed to be THEIR song, reveals that he is in actuality still actively controlling more of the song. Just like how he is intending to manipulate and gain control over Anna.
@@sugarkats21 & @Ianthe Silverfire While I agree with you about Prince Hans manipulating Princess Anna through the 'duet' song & it not being an equal duet, I disagree with both of you that Prince Hans was leading the duet song. Anna started it, ended it & Hans paused for her input on the next word several times *because* he was mirroring her, not leading. He only leads her along after he's lured her in, after the song. 'Love is an Open Door' is his villain song, I won't dispute that. What I dispute is how he went about mirroring her during the duet, how he manipulated her: he's doing what most "people pleaser" type Manipulators do, which is appear to like / love everything you do as long as they need you. After he's found out those things Princess Anna loves, so he can manipulate her better, he doesn't have to mirror her actions or speach anymore. However, as a "people pleaser" type manipulator he will continue to do so, as he perceives it's necessity, until Princess Anna's no longer of any use to him. Because at the end of the day, that's all Anna ever was to him: A Princess = 👸💰🐄🤑 You may be wondering where I'm getting all this "people pleaser" type manipulator talk from. It's quite simple really. I read 'A Frozen Heart' the book based on the Disney movie written from Anna's perspective. Also, knowing that he's referred to as a mirror & a chameleon in the behind the scenes videos, I looked up what kind of manipulator (narcissist) does these things & if it was true of all Manipulators / narcissists. Turns out it's not. 😅
@@amyliaclenny1866 Oh I didn't really notice that Hans was stepping over her lines or anything, I was just explaining what the OP was trying to indicate. And yeah, I agree with the spiel about him mirroring her on purpose, I think John addresses that too during the song?
Anna is just so well written as a character. Anxious attachment is difficult and to see someone come into their own while facing their deepest fears (not a monster, not a power, but loneliness) is so amazing. And in a kids movie.
@@ebaugh7320 I'm sorry, but I have to get this off my chest. There are already books, movies, and maybe comics where characters don't have powers. You say we don't have enough characters who don't have powers, but in fact we already have a lot of characters with no powers in them. I'm just saying, but it seems like the characters with powers are getting hate, while the characters with no powers are getting praise. How is that fair?
@@mindybrown4952 Nobody is hating on character with powers. Its just that for quite a while, movies would show us that character with powers are special and strong but character with no powers are just side characters and plus it speaks to the audience personally because seeing a powerless character be so badass right beside a character with superpowers, it makes them feel like they can do it too.
Who ever told their kids that Hans started out good but became evil later in the movie in order to "preserve the magic" of the song, made a huge mistake. They should've used that moment to teach their kids that there are people who will have bad intentions for you from the beginning, while seeming very nice and sincere. Use this movie to teach your kids about the potential dangers when dating.
Not just when dating. Like Jono said, the best relationships are built on healthy friendships, so take your time to go through your vetting process, to reflect and really find out what you want from that relationship
I literally said that out loud to myself when watching this. It's a HUGE missed opportunity to teach kids about emotional manipulation, and doesn't actually help them. All it does is make the parents feel better and give their kids a false sense of comfort that risks harming them in the future. Good intentions or not, it's ultimately selfish :/
5:22 Hearing you guys talk about “Love is an Open Door” is an incredibly chilling take on abusive relationships because anyone who hasn’t been in an abusive relationship tends to think that it can’t happen to them because they’re too smart, or they can pick up on manipulation, or they can sense when someone has ulterior motivations… but it doesn’t happen like that. A lot of times, it happens like Anna and Hans. Someone comes to you and it feels like you finally caught a break, like there’s finally a clearing in the woods where you get to rest. You trust that peaceful, quiet place. It isn’t until it’s too late that you realize you’re trapped in a clearing surrounded by trees too far to see your way out of. Anyone can be a victim because, really, everyone is waiting for someone who lets them feel like they can finally stop holding their breath. And that’s when they get you. I didn’t fully believe that until this video.
YES. I had precursors from my past that made me more likely to be attracted to an abuser, but I had never been treated the way I was by my ex… And thus, the love bombing characteristic of those with narcissisistic or sociopathic tendencies felt real, and it wasn’t until months into a marriage when this man was cursing me and calling me names behind closed doors that I thought, “what the hell did I get myself into? “
Anybody can become a victim, but in turn, any victim can become a survivor. Being in an abusive relationship is a lot like cancer; it's not a pretty thing, it's often hard to see before it gets bad, and while removing it can leave us weak and with long-term damage, it leaves us alive to live our lives for however long we have it. Fighting and not surviving or having that life cut short because of the damage done doesn't make that fight meaningless. Relapsing and having to fight again or getting something entirely new and terrible in it's own way doesn't make us stupid. We become victims because of something outside of our control; we become survivors when we take that control back.
Well i don't think it's happening to me, not because I'm smart, but i have trust Issues due to abuse and manipulation i faced from my family and friends years ago as a child.. so I'm a little experienced on this stuff..
@@empandora123 Actually, and I'm not saying that's you, but there is a tendency for people with past trauma (especially childhood trauma) to be more susceptible to manipulation. The reason is, if you grow up with abuse and trauma, you tend to normalize it and cannot see red flags as well. Maybe that's not you but... be alert anyway fam. I faced childhood abuse too and got manipulated and abused. Being abused in childhood doesn't give you immunity sadly.
The thing I appreciate the most about this series is the willingness of the hosts to show raw emotion. I grew up in a home and around men who never showed their sadness or grief. It was anger only. I was literally taught that men don’t feel love. Watching you guys is cathartic. Thank you.
I understand where both of you are coming from. The men around you were taught what their fathers and society taught them -- "Never be weak or you are not a man." That right there is actual toxic masculinity. It prevents emotional growth, connection, and the ability to have empathy. I.E. the things you need to be a strong, reliable, human being. And when SHTF, where do these emotions go? Anger. Because there's no other outlet except pain. All these problems just to look "strong".
I'm not trying to "one-up" on your experience, but in some cultures and families this lands even harder, because girls and women are expected (and taught) not to show their feelings either.
@@NapoleonCalland true - I was adopted, and was shamed for being angry, upset, depressed etc (wasn’t even really allowed to grieve over being separated from my birth family, as a very young child) and my adoptive parents’ biological son was shamed for getting upset, unless it was over a death (pets, family). Even then, none of the adults really showed much emotion. All very stiff upper lip, but the side effect of that was twofold - it made deaths of family members seem almost insignificant, and I don’t really talk to family when I’m upset.
@@ShintogaDeathAngel on the other hand, too much emotion is just as bad. My parents shamed me for being angry. But they had times when they lectured me over bad grades or staying up late, yelling and angry at me as if I'd actually committed a crime/killed their loved one, and it triggered my fight flight response even tho rationally i wasnt going to die, and they werent going to hurt/beat/hit me over those things. Also ditto for kids who grew up with their parents arguing in front of them and/or other family and friends.
Truth. I had really good social skills and realized I could manipulate people very easily early on and that scared me. I almost did a 180 for a while where I wouldn't try to persuade anyone of anything and was just very head on about things. Then I realized, it's really really really about intent. So I ask myself if it's about me or other people's well-being when I go to persuade someone. I probably err too far in not pursuing my own interests but I really don't want to be the kind of person who takes advantage of others (am currently learning to balance that a bit more).
@@hollyl5702 wow, absolutely same. I mean not the manipulation part but I can lie so easily with a straight face so I was terrified because I didn't want to become a liar so I'm basically having the same thing that you are 😂
@Josie Violett yeah, I didn't lie so much (except to try to evade punishment as a kid) as I could just tell how to get people to do things.. flatter them.. that sort of thing. I don't know how to explain it. That could all be a positive in leadership skills and whatnot, it just comes down to intent. And yes, I've been learning to be much more assertive through the years rather than abrasive/combative (which was my counter to manipulative). My situation as a kid was kind of complex so behavior modeled in human relationships wasn't always the best. Edited to add: since you mused on it, I don't get social anxiety, but I think I'm an ambivert. My favorite place to be is amidst people where I have absolutely no need or social obligation to interact with them but I can if I want (think cafes, festivals, concerts). Lots of positive energy. Dunno why but that makes me happy.
I think manipulation inherently isn't a negative thing, its just an ability, what you do with it is what matters. the intentions has to be counted as well. An exaggerated example here is someone being a dumbass and endangering their own life or maybe someone else and you had to lie, twist your words and manipulate to make them stop, would that be a bad thing. IMO no, but maybe others feel differently.
I saw a few interviews with Kristen where she talks about the fact that “Do the next right thing” is a mantra of hers to help her with her depression or anxiety. I thought that was a really interesting fact. And I will say I have used it as well when this pandemic has gotten really hard.
I'm pretty sure the skeleton lyrics were written the day after Chris Buck's (director of Frozen1) son passed away, it was during the press tour for the first frozen. I remember reading an interview where he wrote these ideas and notes for personal use but found it more fitting to be put into a song and brought them to Kristen. So when you say "who ever wrote these lyrics knows what it's like", they most definitely do.
@@sukhinwonderlandd it works in their context as a phrase used repeatedly and has no reference on the Hindu roots which I'm presuming you're basing your comment off of. You're nitpicking at this point and doing so incorrectly 💀
@@sukhinwonderlandd agreed, we have a perfectly fine English word "motto" that is too often overlooked (if motto doesn't sound fancy enough then put it in Latin on a coat of arms I guess)
I remember seeing the first Frozen in the theater, and when Hans reveals his true character, the entire room gasped, and one woman shouted "He did NOT!"
I saw it for the first time at my neighbors's house. They had all seen it before and kept speaking the lines with the characters and sing along. I was very confused, as an uninformed 11 years old.
@@justagray-ace2787 They don’t work on the whole because it tends to be based on lazy writing and narrative. The only real twist villain in the Disney canon that works well is King Candy.
@@jenniferhiemstra5228 I don't know. I saw that one coming, when they talked about Turbo disappearing, but Hans was a total shock. I'm so on the fence about whether I think it was originally a planned twist, or something they threw in later, though.
anna is legitimately one of the best disney princesses (probably second only to Mulan). she has no powers, no frills, just sheer determination and being extremely proactive about helping her sister. she's so brave it almost borders on stupidity. she's an intensely lovable, super funny character played brilliantly by kristen bell who should really get more voice acting parts. Anna is so underrated.
18:00 “How to rise from the floor, when it’s not you I’m rising for” That line hit me the hardest because of the reason you mentioned in the video. I lost two of my siblings and six people in three years. November of last year I just gave up. I was broken and I felt like there was not turning back for me. My parents started drinking, I was feeling so much resentment towards my last sister, school was awful, I wanted to die. But I decided to carry on. I don’t know how I clinged on. Will I suppose. Now a year later and everything isn’t perfect, but I am in a much better place.
I haven't seen Frozen 2, so hearing, "If you don't want me running after you into fire, then Don't Run Into Fire!!" Is such a strong line it completely took me off guard. Holy shit.
Of the two Frozens, it's my favorite by far. Maybe because it's got the most character growth by the character I relate most strongly to? Hadn't thought of that til just now. Anyway, the music is *incredible* in the second Frozen, as they've pointed out. Kristoff gets an 80s power ballad, also, which is ah-MAZING.
In “Love is An Open Door”, someone pointed out to me that in the line “You and I are just meant to be”, Hans says “You” and Anna says “I“. Which inadvertently tells the audience that Hans doesn’t have good intentions, as she is essentially alone in her feelings
Also he says "I've been waiting my whole life to find my own place" and gestures to Arendelle, not Anna. Which tells us straight away he is thinking literally about a kingdom and not figuratively about his place with her. Well, that's what set off my arsehole radar anyway.
Hans was a great new type of villain because he didn’t LOOK or act like a typical animated/Disney villain. If you look at Disney villains since then, you can see a shift in how they portray antagonists in most (not all) animated films: Inside Out, Zootopia, Moana, Coco, Ray’s and the Last Dragon, etc.
Hans worked up until the third act when he took the mask off for no real reason with Anna. I think they could have done a bomb-under-the-table sort of thing where Hans talked about his plan behind closed doors or simply had him reveal who he is to Elsa and keep the act up with Anna to build sympathy since he knows she's doomed. In the case of the latter, you could even have Anna finally realize that she fell far too hard and quick for a dude she barely knows when she stops him from killing Elsa (followed by Elsa filling her in on the weasel gloating about how she was right the entire time, but Anna was too dumb/starved for love to believe her). That would have been a more nuanced approach for what they seemed to have been going for with Anna coming to the truth with more agency than having her creep boyfriend spell it out
Hans might not have looked or acted like one.... but if you're familiar with musical theater, he sounds like one. By that, I mean usually your male romantic lead is a tenor. Hans is not (I know this because I can sing along with his part in the duet with Anna) Hans is a baritone, which is the same as how characters like Gaston are cast for their singing roles. Kind of burried the twist for me.
Raya and the Last Dragon did it a bit differently. Nemari (I think that’s her name) was shown to be an antagonist at the start of the movie but from there we really weren’t sure who’s side she was really on until the very end when she did redeem herself and join Raya’s group. Every other twist villain seemed good, but then suddenly turned evil at the end and that was that.
The scene where there is no color but Anna, I think that is a great visual of depression... I have major anxiety, depression and am seeing a therapist. This song always brings me to tears...
There is one thing I feel that is important about the “act of true love” that we miss a lot. We all know that its cool that its not romantic, but what is even more important is that it completely changes the way Anna views love as a whole. Her whole take on love throughout the movie is “love me, love me, love me!” This is the first time she changes from “love me” to “I love you”. That is what truly melts her heart and saves her.
While I agree, I also disagree. Anna's act of sacrifice for Elsa isn't what melted her heart, it was Elsa *finally* letting go of her "conceal, don't feel" and grieving the loss of her sister. It's not until she cries that Anna unfreezes. Otherwise, Anna would have unfrozen immediately after blasting Hans away.
@@Black-Swan-007 actually it WAS Anna's act of sacrifice for Elsa that melted her heart. She decided to die for her sister, she chose Elsa's life over her own - there's no bigger love than this. And this is exactly the kind of act of true love that could melt a frozen heart.
@@7snowdog No. Yes, Anna chose her sister over herself but if that was all it took then she wouldn't have frozen or would have melted her own heart. Anna remained frozen for several minutes. It wasn't until Elsa finally let her in that she melted.
@@Black-Swan-007 it only took several minutes for the sake of the suspension and drama, so the viewers would believe she died. But the real reason is her sacrifice. As it is in the movie, "an act of true love can thaw a frozen heart" - and this was an act of true love. Pretty powerful i should say.
Anna's song "The Next Right Thing" is the, absolute, best depiction of depression I have seen. When you are so crushed by your grief/depression/problems, that you can't see, or handle anything beyond a single step forward. Been there.
I had someone almost die on me through suicide and this came out a year after that and Annas song was so incredibly accurate it was unnerving. Later on a family member of mine went through postpartum psychosis and everyone was crying in my house every day and this song helped me be strong and help look after her baby.
Yeah. It's okay to not be strong sometimes, but too much of it can have serious consequences, such as not taking care of a baby, or going so far psychologically that it becomes hard to come back from it the longer we stay that way. You found your own ways to remain strong through all these situations that also happened to you, and you deserve an applause for that. Doing that takes effort that certain people aren't willing to go through because breaking through that initial intense discomfort is quite difficult.
I just noticed; When Anna is singing happy songs & enjoying herself, the lyrics are very modern, simple and easy to understand. But when she sings "The next right thing", the lyrics are complex, it's full of metaphors & the song has layers of grief. Like something actually written in that particular timeline. It reflects her personality, & how she has to change, just like she's singing in the song.
That’s the subversive part of “Love is an Open Door”. My wife said Hans is exactly her narcissistic, sociopathic, abusive ex-husband and so many warning bells in Hans rewatching it after her divorce. And having met him myself, because of having to attempt to coparent with him, it is 100% true. He tried to charm me until he realized he couldn’t manipulate me that he was the real good guy, then turned on me just like Hans, by trying to provoke me into hitting him, making false and unsubstantiated child abuse reports, trying to get me fired, etc. PS: The song is true, she’s just singing it with the wrong person.
Anna's song was actually based on the actress's life long battle with depression. She once told audience in a show that that's just what she does in her dark days.
There’s a great documentary on the making of Frozen II (Into the Unknown) on Disney and it goes into both Kristen Bell and Chris Bucks’ story and the inspiration for taking the next right step.
I remember crying in the cinema during "the next right thing" because suddenly I could relate to the lyrics and this feeling so badly. And It just hit me then... I didnt realize before that Im in such a bad place until I heard this song...
What’s amazing is that Hans never once lies during that song. He masterfully reflects, using language she will project erroneous meaning into. It was so artfully written.
I just realized something. During Love Is An Open Door, Anna is the only one who touches and opens the doors throughout the song. I think that reflects to her being open and vulnerable to manipulation. She is an open book and so willing to trust in any situation and that costs her in some ways later on.
"The Next Right Thing" was like a sucker punch to the chest. I realize that Disney tries to make itself relatable and emotional, but this felt a little too real for me. Great song and great acting, but holy crap!
@@harvestmoon_autumnsky I'm sorry, but I personally disagree with the not for kids bit. I remember as a kid I pretty much went through depression, isolating myself from others, sometimes thinking what was the point in getting up the next day, so I'm sure that anyone who is a kid and currently feels like this would want and need to see a movie like this that feels relatable and makes them know they aren't alone.
@@justagray-ace2787 Completely agree. I think serious topics absolutely should be included in kids films. As a kid those kinds of movies were actually my favorite.
Anna's sad song in the second movie affected me the most. I was so glad I went to the theater alone because I bawled my eyes out for that one. It just reminded me of my lowest points in my past and that I was just walking step by step from then, literally forcing myself to do the basic things. When I watched this movie and listened to this song, I realized I was finally at peace with myself. I felt like I overcame the worst of it without even realizing it and I could actually see how much I have grown from then. I felt proud of myself which was something I didn't feel for quite some time.
I had a similar experience when I saw the movie in theaters. The lyrics of The Next Right Thing blew me away and brought up SO many feelings for me as a depression sufferer. I started tearing up from the first line of the song in this video haha
It was the first movie my niece watched in the theatre and I asked her if she liked it. “Yeah, but it was so sad” Poor girl, this is her Mufasa I guess 🙈
Oh dang, I personally liked the "Hans is mind controlled by the trolls because they want Kristoff to be with Anna" theory, but never considered how much it takes away from the lesson that manipulators often start out really nice.
Me too. Also i would like it / believe it better if he had made some kind of sign for us (audience) without Anna watching. But instead all we got was that goofy “I’m in love” smile. They missed the opportunity there and made a bad “villain plot twist” like in zootopia and Incredibles 2.
@@Jimmyvida I think they really wanted that pen drop surprise villain at the end but you’re right, I would’ve loved to see his smile just *drop* when Anna walks away. Like not even an ‘it’s all coming together’ evil smile, just a drop in his facade would’ve been cool.
But thats bit how manipulators work. They are still sappy and "in love" whenever there's an audience or they can be caught out. So Hans giving an evil smirk would take away from the manipulators start put nice in the beginning and try fool everyone reality.
Sorry I know this is an old conversation but I’ve seen this comment a few times. Personally I think showing us an obvious clue like that negates the message somewhat. Manipulators don’t give out obvious clues or wear a villainous smile. If we were in on it early on, it would leave many viewers thinking it was obvious he’s a bad guy and that they’d never fall for someone like that themselves. The fact is that there are clues the whole way through as to his insincerity & manipulation. It’s just that they are the types of clues we actually get in real life. The love bombing, the mirroring etc. If only the bad guys did actually give an evil smile or cackle after they got away with something then I doubt many people would fall for the performance. I think the way they show it is much more realistic and useful for teaching kids about what to look out for.
Do The Next Right Thing is a *powerful* song. I'm glad ya'll focused on it so much. In 2019 I had twin boys born at 26 weeks and one of them died. The beginning of that song takes me right back to those moments right after his death, and then when she stands up I remember finding hope in my surviving son and "doing the next right thing," by doing what needed to be done for him and his care.
Frozen 2 blew me away as a Disney sequel. Frozen 1 was good but 2 just stepped it up in every way. I was so surprised by how emotionally complex the narrative and the character development was. Moments like Anna's depression song was so dark and so real I was so vastly impressed. A truly amazing movie.
I've seen a lot of people debate whether "Into the Unknown" or "Show Yourself" is the best song from Frozen 2. They're both excellent songs, but if you ask me, "The Next Right Thing" is the easy winner. The raw emotion of the lyrics and Kristen Bell's delivery are on a completely different level.
personally, the concept that there can be only one "best", so not appreciating both is silly. Cuts one off from experiencing more of whatever comes from each.
I tell my daughter "Love Is An Open Door" is the meanest villain song because he's making her think he loves her! Also, love "The Next Right Thing," I was finally able to listen without crying, but then struggled with singing along without crying lol I was so impressed with this song.
I watched Frozen 2 with my parents when I was going through a major suicidal and depressive episode. During The Next Right Thing, my dad held my hand and we both just cried. Fair play to Disney to portray something so raw and real so respectfully and accurately.
Wonderful video as always. I never quiet caught the lyrics “I’ll make the choice, and hear that voice…” Elsa hears the voice and can’t ignore it. Anna has to choose to heat a voice that isn’t there. Not denying how awesome Elsa is, but Anna is all of us. This pre-echos “Falcon”/Sam’s speech at the end of Falcon and the Winter Soldier. “The only power I have is that I believe we can do better.” I’m rambling. Thanks for a great video!
On that note, why are the reviews of The falcon and Winter Soldier so divided. So many people outright hate it while many people are saying one of the best shows? I, honestly, found it above average and a very big leap Marvel took if we consider their past movies
Honestly, when Frozen 2 came out I was going through a TERRIBLE time in life emotionally with my depression and anxiety and PTSD. It felt like my very foundations were shaken and torn apart and there was no one I could talk to who could relate. This movie illustrated my space in life PERFECTLY. From Elsa's rejection of her true self and then coming into her own and Anna's struggle with loneliness and abandonment...when I say I ugly sobbed during this film, I mean it.
Craig Kenneth has a lot of videos on this topic and also I am planning to buy the book Attached by Amir Levine and Rachel Heller, you can check it out too if you are interested.
Better do not go unto the terms... Otherwise it's much easier to have self diagnosis no matter how strong your will is. And that's not really something good. Just one more little problem that will push in silence and when you notice it will be too late.
Whenever I hear Anna's song Do The Next Right Thing, it kind of takes me back to The Hunger Games (books) and Katniss when she's depressed and is paralyzed by it she gives herself simple commands.
Putting one foot in front of another and doing the next right thing is such strong words Those simple commands could help anyone take a step In the right direction no matter the situation
@@wolfishpotato6978 It was the first thing that came to mind Anna telling herself to get off the floor and take one step and then another brought it back. You have to sit up Katniss, you have to drink water Katniss. Uuugh.
@@gracehaven5459 yeah it is definitely a trauma response. It's exactly like what they were saying, small, easy goals are more attainable. Even if it's just sitting up it's an easier goal to achieve than getting your life together which is an unbelievably high expectation that can seem so out of reach and impossible that taking even one step can seem like a huge effort. I think the line Anna sings sums it up very well "I won't look too far ahead, it's too much for me to take." Just gotta do what you have the spoons for.
Rising for yourself is hard. For years I kept pets, just to have a responsibility. Because if all I had to go to work for was to take care of myself, I wouldn't have done it. But I had to feed the dog. I could suffer through one more day for that.
Yes. I adopted my cat when I was at my lowest a couple of years ago. I lived alone in an unfamiliar city for the first time. I got her so I would have a reason to come home. “No I have to come home today, I need to feed my cat.”
@@NBFAN00B Same for me. My cat has been the only steady presence in years of change and much struggle. Without her, even getting out of bed would have seemed a totally insane act - just why? But then she expects me to be there, no matter what.
"The next right thing" actually is a mantra that Kristen Bell told herself in the morning while dealing with depression. She was actually talking with the director about that, so this song really was inspired by her own experiences as well. I guess that's the reason why this song is so extremely powerful and emotional. It really gets me every time because I was in a phase of loosing my health and therefore a lot of hope when I first saw the movie and heard that song. It now really means so much to me.
I love how emotionally realistic this movie is I have been in emotionally manipulated exactly like this over and over again because I do have abandonment issues. When you get into a toxic relationship it starts out amazing if they started off horrible the relationship wouldn’t even happen but it’s so realistic for the enemy to start out as a person the protagonist values. Telling kids that he used to be good and turned bad is not a good lesson for kids to learn sometimes bad people come in pretty packages
imo, Hans is the next evolution of Gaston, and it's kinda fascinating to me how the latter tends to be revered as a villain, while the former is derided by so many. Bc like, "sometimes bad people come in pretty packages" is the essence of Gaston as a character, with him being set up to be an inversion of the Beast, and it's often been said that his uniqueness as a villain is in the fact that he'd likely be the hero in most other stories. But the major difference, of course, is that Gaston is unambiguously signaled to the audience as being an antagonist, even if the true depth of his villainy was concealed a bit by the initial comedic tone of his scenes in the beginning of the movie (which is why I love that Gaston gets 2 villain songs to explore those different sides of him). So to me, Hans seems like a great and more nuanced and subtle evolution of this concept---as much as I love Gaston as a villain, I will admit that he sometimes gets SO over the top that he can kinda start feeling more like a caricature than like someone who could exist in real life. He can be a lot of fun as a character, but I don't feel like there's ever a moment where you're siding with the Bimbettes over Belle, or thinking that Gaston would be a good match for her. And while I'm sure that people exactly like Gaston do exist in the real world, I feel like there are far more people like Hans, so I think that this more realistic depiction of manipulators and toxic people conveys the lesson even better. This is not to say that Hans is a completely flawless execution of this concept---it does feel a bit like they're over-correcting in his villain reveal scene, and are trying a bit too hard to make absolutely certain that his evilness is hammered into your head. The brilliance of Hans before the reveal was in the subtlety and how realistic his manipulative behavior was, but that is all completely tossed out the window after the reveal---yes, manipulators and abusers will turn on you eventually, but they don't tend to turn on a dime quite that sharply and start spouting a villain monologue at you. XP To me, what's most jarring about the scene is not the switch from seeming good to evil, but rather the abrupt heavy-handedness, which then makes Hans come across as suddenly overconfident in a stupid way, and it defangs him a bit as a villain imo. But I suppose that's a minor point overall, as it doesn't detract too much from lesson that Hans's character is meant to teach kids (unlike the trolls and that godforsaken song "Fixer Upper" ://).
I always saw Anna as very impulsive, funny, a good getter for life. And like “I was born ready let’s go, woohoo!!” And Kristoff is very calm, methodical, and collected and very “you need to think things through.” He and Anna balance each other out
@@mellemadswoestenburg1296 both are interesting characters but Anna is the type of strength that is not portrayed as well in most films. The determination to hold on and keep going dispite all the world falling apart on you is a very internal process so it can be hard to show on screen.
In that case, I'm so proud of you!! Really! It takes a lot to recover and get better with something that ingrained and by the sounds of it, you're smashing it xx
It's so easy to over-correct, both consciously, and unconsciously as a response to a bad experience. Kudos for being self-aware enough to see that and work on it, and for getting to a healthier middle ground - something I'm still working on. But, that's all part of the journey, right? :)
Anna's my FAVORITE princess! 1. She's so sweet 2. She's funny 3. She stands up for others, and even though her sister acted like a total jerk she still loved her 4. She really wanted to find romantic love so bad and I relate 5. She's the most fashionable, along with Tiana 6. She's not too ditzy like some of the classic princesses, but she's not the tough tomboy chick like Moana and Merida 7. I just feel like she's sisterly and motherly at the same time for some reason
There was an interview with Kristen Bell where she was talking about the song about the song was based on what she tells herself when she's in her most depressive moments. I feel like that really does contribute to what the animators had to work with when it came to animating Anna in the 2nd movie
“Then we all went into quarantine for a year.” You merely adopted the isolation. I was born in it. Moulded by it. I didn’t see love until I was already a woman.
I connected to Anna the first time I saw the movie when Anna says "I am complelty ordinary". Everyone is awed by Elsa because of her powers, but I was intrigued more by Anna just because she doesn't have powers.
no I don't agree it's not because of Elsa's powers but her struggle to accept who she is and that's what resonated with most people. She's a great role model for people who have been told they are different and they must hide that difference because it is wrong, so seeing her 'let it go' and then 'show yourself' she does a 180; fully accepting herself and being happy with it. It's nothing to do with the ice powers. That was based on the Snow Queen but Elsa's characterisation was relatable. We root for people with struggles and root for them. Anna is great too.
@@shadowolfstorm have you heard the frozen 1 outtake song, "more than just a spare"? If you haven't, i recommend this one. I connected to Anna right away too, i'm also the second born sister, less popular, less interesting and generally "completely ordinary", like Anna. That's why she's my favourite Disney character. It's sad how people always compare her to Elsa, it's always sad for a sibling to be compared to the other, especially being the less popular one.
@@7snowdog I haven't, but I'm sure I'd love it. I don't have a personal sibling comparison, but I had the "ordinary/unimportant/uninteresting " feeling while being surrounded by people who where always considered "special, etc." so that's why I felt gut punched at Anna's quote. It's not that I don't like Elsa, it's just I felt she was always talked about enough compared to Anna who was more or less shoved to the side
I read that apparently the song was based off of Kristen Bell's own mental health struggles and the Next Right Thing was her mantra to help her through a bad episode with depression
Yes! She talked about it in the docu-series Disney+ did for the making of Frozen 2. She’s just an amazing human and shared something so personal with the world and I think it has helped and is going to help so many people.
@@angeldude101 I noticed that! I watched the Good Place AFTER I watched Frozen 2, but didn't realise it was Kristen Bell until like... 3 episodes in. Then I couldn't unhear it!
"Do the next right thing" for Anna was actually taken from Kristen Bell's own experiences of depression am overcoming it, which is probably why it's so powerful both for the character and for application to real life.
“Do the next right thing” is also a mantra in AA and NA for people in recovery too. Don’t focus on needing to be sober for the rest of your entire life, focus on doing the next right think for yourself and your health and your sobriety.
I remember as a kid, i hated anna. I thought she was dumb, impatient, exaggerated, and too prying. Now im older and more mature and i can understand her mentality. I can actually relate to her longing for connection. She’s one of my favourite characters now, so realistic and open-minded.
"Omg me too! I relate so much to you I feel the same way!" I love how the movie displayed this manipulation and how behind the catchy lyrics is actually someone who didn't know her at all. He lets Anna fill in the sentences herself or says something generic. When he gets things wrong he just pretend it never happened because "omg we're so perfect for each other". It's scary how he can sense right away that Anna was extremely vulnerable.
One of the only times I have done like body convulsing sobbing during a movie was during The Next Right Thing. It is masterful between the lyrics, music, singing, and animation. It was so relatable. I've never lost anyone close to me, but I have been in deep, deep depression where I felt like there was literally nothing to continue on for. And yet I took step by step and "stumbled blindly toward the light." Thank God I know the Light.
Having lost a sister recently, my daughters and I cant watch this song without crying! It is a favorite in our house currently as we go through our grief. The words just hit differently now and they are so perfect!
I really wish they noted on the line “hello darkness, I’m ready to succumb” cuz I wanted to see their perspective on that but the review was amazing nonetheless.
When I first heard that line, I was surprised. Disney rarely goes that far when portraying grief and depression. It’s one of the very few times a protagonist is suggested to have serious suicidal thoughts.
@@TheRealPSKilla502 yea and I’ve heard people give that insight on other videos and channels so to see a therapist acknowledge that would have been nice
@@TheRealPSKilla502 I completely agree! It was my favourite line in the film! I also remember think "hello darkness, my old friend" just so I didn't cry.
@@Frostfern94 This film gets me every time. Sadness when Elsa and Anna find their parents’s wrecked ship, then dread as Elsa sets out for Ahtohallan on her own and pushes Anna and Olaf away, then excitement when Elsa crosses the sea, then tears of joy during Show Yourself, especially when Elsa’s mom joins in, then absolute, utter dread when Elsa goes too far, despite her mom’s final warning “Go to far and you’ll be drowned” (nightmare fuel there), then the real tear jerker when Elsa freezes solid, Olaf flurries away into nothing, and Anna is left all alone in a literal cave. Then this song starts, and the waterworks start flowing. Every single time. First tears of sadness, then tears of joy as Anna emerges from the cave into the daylight. Haters will hate, but this movie is truly remarkable.
I wish you guys would go into the filmography of animated films more. The perspectives and shots are very unique and thought provoking within the context. It’s something that should be explored more, as much as I love the therapy stuff
"therapy STUFF" -- ouch. I mean, they're called Cinema THERAPY after all. Maybe you would enjoy the Director's Cuts available once you subscripe to the (super)hero offer over on the website.
@@cherusiderea1330 Didn't mean to offend. Perhaps "therapy aspect" would have been a better phrase. They do delve into cinematography in their other videos just not with animated films as much.
5:43 "I know people have told their kids he wasn't evil when they sung this song, he turned evil in between..." Sadly, that is also the message that in real life that some, who are manipulated by a real-life-Hann's type of charismatic but dangerous man, tell themselves... "He wasn't 'evil' in the past, maybe I can change him back to when he was not." But really, it was always part of his plan.
Loneliness is true suffering (I learned it).. For me the most heartbreaking moments for Anna the stages of her pain in Frozen II: her denial (when she found out about Elsa's "death", she said: "No, no" and said goodbye sadly to Olaf, who was connecting her to her childhood memories with Elsa), depression (I broke down in the cinema when she said: "Olaf, Elsa, now what do I do?" and more her heartbreaking song: truly reflects and feels her great pain and depression: You're lost the hope gone, I'm all alone), negotiation and aceptation (when during the song she tries to get up herself accepting that she must continue the mission without Elsa or Olaf and do the next right thing), Anna is truly incredible as Elsa, that is courage to continue forward despite the pain.. She is an excellent example..
On the topic of a "bad guy" getting the catchy song along with Anna. I think it was a good choice, and I wish parents would talk more about humanizing things. The thing I struggle most with after having been manipulated, then discarded by a guy is the fact that the good times are now all tainted. I wasted so much time on those people. I'm trying to work on still appreciating the good times I've had since those were my memories, but it's really hard. I really wish I had learned this lesson when I was in the single digits. If we can teach kids this, then why not?
"The thing I struggle most with after having been manipulated, then discarded by a guy is the fact that the good times are now all tainted. I wasted so much time on those people." Holy shit, that feels like an arrow going through my heart- I think it's important to note you are NEVER at fault for not realizing it sooner. Manipulation is unfortunately hard to see since, well...it's manipulation, which can also be gaslighting, making you wonder if you're just overreacting or not.
I'm so sorry you went through that, and I hope you can heal and get to enjoying the good memories without blaming yourself for the rest of it. It wasn't your fault x I also completely agree with you about it being a really valuable opportunity for parents to teach their children about the risks in the world - especially when so many rapes and murders are committed by people the victim knows - which goes against the stereotypes of being attacked by a stranger/weirdo, etc. Too often the danger comes from the good looking/charming coworker/guy at the bar, rather than some Hollywood/fairy-tale monster. These conversations can be hard to have, but they protect kids in the long term.
Also, I think sometimes we do get earned about this through media like Mean Girls etc. But if we have pure innocent hearts, we make excuses. Also codependency makes excuses for people. We learned the learnings we needed to learn through experiences. Sometimes that's the only time and way we learn. I kept going back to a friend who was not right for me, nor me for her. It's taken me 20 years to finally break off entirely. We learn when we learn, when the trauma of being lonely heals 💓
I have an Avoidant Attachment, and my wife on the other hand shows anxious attachment. I can say from my experience that it's always a game of push and pull. She sometimes complains that I'm not responsive enough. Maybe accuse me of being emotionally distant and withholding. Me the avoidant stay relatively quiet but in my more fed-up moments think that she is too demanding and possibly needy. It's interesting that you mentioned this matter about Elsa and Anna. And I get that Anxious and Avoidant people seems to find each other all the time. I also understand why they find It hard to leave one another. Well in this case, Elsa and Anna. I think it's very important for both parties to face their greatest fear. That is for the anxious party to overcome the fear of being alone or separated from their partner. And the avoidant needs to let go of the fear of getting hurt when they get close to people and accept the fact that the intimacy and closeness comes with a cost, but it can be a reasonable one, to get love and affection in return. You have to learn to protect yourself better and defend yourself against getting hurt again.
"The Next Right Thing" was the song that got me through my Grandma's death. The moment I got the call that she was gone, that song instantly popped into my head... Amazing lyrics and extremely relatable!
When I watched Frozen 2 at the cinema I'd felt identify with Anna. At that moment I realized that I was emotionally attached to my family always with the fear in my mind "What would I do if one close member of my family dies? What would I do to keep my life going on if they are always here for me?" Seeing Anna standing up and doing what she has to do made feel I could do it
My mother passed a few weeks before Frozen 2 came out. So it holds a special place in my heart because of all the stuff with their mother in the movie, and Anna's song definitely made me sob hysterically because I was still in heavy grief. We didn't have a close relationship but I still loved her so much :( RIP momma, you are missed. ♥♥♥♥♥
"I have found, through painful experience, that the most important step a person can take is always the next one." - from 'The Way of Kings' by Brandon Sanderson. Those words really stuck with me ever since I read them.
I was told by my therapist that the inspiration for the song “the next right thing” comes from Kristen bells own therapist. Far as I was told, she was advised to just do the next right thing you can think of if you can’t think of what to do
really? thought it was inspired by the co-director asking the composers to put this in the movie a bit of video evidence: czcams.com/video/6szLJFdx02M/video.html
Can you guys do one of these of Kristoff? Don't know if many people see him as a hero but he's a character marked by sensibility and depth and also pretty heroic (in my opinion) so that's something I would love to see
@@sophiatorchinsky2444 I saw the video after commenting on this and it is really good. If anyone is interested this is the link: czcams.com/video/XaVm9YenVJQ/video.html
This was great, however I do wish that more attention was put on how Anna was essentially doing the next right thing before Frozen 2, and less about how naïve she was. Because of course she was naïve, she was essentially isolated and deprived of the life she was used to all in an instant. The movies also never acknowledge how Anna might feel about having her head messed with, regardless of the reasons. Honestly I'd even say without hesitation that Anna was more isolated than Elsa was. Because while Elsa was isolated, she had her parents who understood what was happening and she could find reprieve in them. Anna didn't have that. Her parents lied to her for basically her entire life and its not acknowledged how she might have felt about that because for both movies, it was about Anna chasing after Elsa. For both of these movies, it just sends this message that Anna has no true purpose outside of chasing after Elsa. And while that's because of their childhood and her abandonment issues, in my opinion it gives less credit to her as a standalone character. All of her accomplishments are about or in some way linked to Elsa. Anna didn't care about herself, her priority was always Elsa. On the other hand, Elsa is the more standalone character because her accomplishments were for herself, whether or not she meant them to be for someone else they always benefitted her in some way. When she told Anna to leave, it benefitted her. When she told Anna to stay away she thought it benefitted Anna, everyone else and her. When she sent Anna away in Frozen 1 and 2 she meant it to be for Anna but both times it was for her benefit. When it came to Elsa, every action was always to benefit Elsa and not Anna. When their parents died, it was Anna who had to bury them alone, and while I understand why that had to happen we never see her perspective of how that might have hurt her beyond that. We know all about Elsa's pain throughout her life, but we don't really hear about Anna's. In fact we get two songs about her pain and one of them hides it under her excitement of the gates opening. And "The Next Right Thing" is more about her grief of Elsa dying, which don't get me wrong is valid, however it's still linked to Elsa like everything else is instead of something that is truly her own. She grows from it, but its kinda unfair for the song to imply that only now she's doing the next right thing when she's had to do that before this movie, and just like in the first, it was because of Elsa's absence and not for herself. (Much respect to Kristen Bell though because it's an amazing song and I don't wanna anyone to think otherwise) "Do You Wanna Build a Snowman?" is great but it shows of Elsa's sadness more accurately than Anna's, which is disguised under a happy tune so well that most don't acknowledge her pain as much as Elsa's. We know about Elsa's inner thoughts, but the most we get from Anna is "please don't shut me out or leave me behind" and her character is just reduced to her always chasing her sister and pretty much nothing else because her other actions are linked to Elsa. It also really upset me that the last image that Anna had to see of their parents (before she had to make a happier one with the statue) is their death. Elsa on the other hand got to have a happy memory of their parents in "Show Yourself". I don't think it's right that the one person who was lied to the most by her parents, had to bury them alone, and had to create her own happy memory of them just because she wasn't a part of nature like Elsa was. To be frank, the only reason she's even queen is because Elsa abdicated the throne to her. There's a song called "Just a Spare" that was cut from the first movie that Kristen Bell sang, and it kinda seems like though the song was abandoned, that's still essentially what Anna became in the end. Sure she's her own person now, but we don't get much insight of what happened to her that isn't linked to Elsa, which is a real shame in my opinion. I guess I'm just tired of hearing about naïve she was and want more discussion on how she might have felt about everything that happened to her outside of Elsa.
Oh god I just know that Next Right Thing is coming up. The song solidified my love for Anna’s character. She’s definitely one of my favourites. Welp I’ve got to go and get the tissues! Edit: Ah! There you go it got me. I honestly didn’t know how much I related to Anna… It’s probably why I like her so much.
I love her so much! In Frozen 1 I thought she was too naive, not bad but not my favorite... In Frozen 2 she completely stole my heart. Especially with _that_ song, and how brave she is in the face of incredible loss.
@@taiya001 It doesn’t bother me, it’s still a powerful song. It’s just what Anna thinks of when she’s at her absolute lowest. Given her circumstance, it’s okay for her to have some rather basic vocabulary.
@@taiya001 “Ruined by poor writing”? That’s a little harsh. Just because Anna doesn’t use the most eloquent vocabulary doesn’t mean the song is ruined. Many people love it for its emotional impact, and how they can relate to Anna on a personal level. “Do the next right thing” is a great mantra for you when you’ve just experienced a devastating loss and you don’t know what to do next. You have a right to your own opinions, but I ask that you have a little more respect for what Kristen Bell and Kristen Anderson Lopez accomplished.
16:02 ''who ever wrote these lyrics has been there'' I've seen a video of people who wrote frozen songs and going through them. "Anderson-Lopez and Lopez drew inspiration from personal tragedy in the lives of two people that worked on Frozen and Frozen II; co-director Chris Buck lost a son, and Andrew Page, a central figure in the music production of both films, lost a daughter."
I just rewatched Frozen II recently. In the intervening time since it came out one of my closest friends passed away unexpectedly. “The Next Right Thing” hit WAY harder even though I’ve struggled with depression most of my life. I’m doing a lot better than I was, and doing the next thing in front of me got me through it (though I probably didn’t do that in the healthiest way possible - tunnel visioning into work at the detriment to my health, but I’ve gotten better about setting boundaries now too). I’m still in the “building my feelings about myself around other people” phase, but I’m taking steps to get better (and very glad to hear that y’all like BetterHelp since that’s what I’m going with - I have my first session this weekend).
While I love Elsa's two songs in Frozen 2, Anna's "The Next Right Thing" is a real tearjerker and cemented the film's position as my favorite Disney animated movie. Anna has not only physical courage, as she demonstrates through both films, but moral courage. Despite believing that both her beloved sister and her best friend Olaf are dead, she goes on to finish what needs to be done despite the fact that destroying the dam will also destroy the home she repeatedly demonstrates she loves because it is only right to save the forest because of what her grandfather did. An amazing character all around.
@@TheRealPSKilla502 'Show Yourself' is my second favorite song from both films. What's particularly interesting about it is that the person she is really singing it to is herself, not Ahtahollen. It's a call to stop repressing who she really is and step into her true destiny as the fifth spirit. I also liked 'Into the Unknown,' which was acknowledgement that far from being the homebody she believes herself and even pretends to be, she longs to be something other than queen of Arondale. Most people would glory in being the ruler of a country. Elsa is made of better stuff.
To be strong together, you need to learn to be strong on your own. I fell in love with my (future) wife decades ago, but we were friends for 9 years before getting married...and it's going on 21 years married now. We're not perfect, but we're pretty damn good together, flaws and all.
I’m aroace and for the last year and a half I’ve been preaching to a choir the importance of friendship and how it’s imperative to the base of ANY healthy relationship (romantic, platonic familial) and it was very very validating hearing Johnathon agree with that
I loved "The Next Right Thing" as a song, but I always disliked the terminology "The next *right* thing". I know that when I'm anxious/depressed that I often fall into the problem of not knowing what to do next and "what if my next choice is the wrong choice". While the song is really about taking *a* next step, I feel like calling it "The next RIGHT thing" kind of holding the song back. Honestly, when you're in the place of not knowing what to do, sometimes the answer is "do something". But adding "right" makes it sound like "don't screw up" (even thought that's not what the song is actually about) Anna's character arc really hit me, especially in the first movie while she was desperately trying to connect to her sister and was constantly pushed away. The "what did I do to you" argument was a literally word for word argument I'd had with my sister growing up. It wasn't until I was an adult that I realized it was never about me or our relationship and that she was pushing me away for reasons I couldn't see.
Ive been there. I get it The next right thing.. i like. The next thing has got to help you. It has to be a breath, a shower, eating something. It cant be withdrawal or self harm or violence. It is easy, in the pits, to turn against yourself and others. To become defensive because depression swaddles and smothers you. Its terrible because it becomes part of you, emulsifies into your personality, your work, your relationships. But You have a choice to help or to hurt yourself. You have the oppurtunity to heal the shattered bits of you in those baby steps you take. Dragging yourself to the bathroom to wash your hands and face is progress 2am microwave meals are progress Checking your emails is progress Wearing clean clothes is progress Every tiny action and little step you take to make it to the next moment is worth it.
I get what you mean. I've got bipolar which ends up causing very bad depressive episodes. While I can't think of what would be "the next right thing" I try to set myself at least 1 thing to do that day that I could do - I had times where that's just been getting out of bed, even if it takes several hours to do it. It's finding what works with you really
"Do you want to build a snowman" always makes me cry - it's so sad, that she was just left completely alone, and didn't even know what she did to deserve that 😭 And same with "The next right thing" - I don't know how any human being can not cry over this song - it's so heartbreaking and inspiring at the same time 💔
For me it's not "do the next right thing" but "what is possible right now?". Can't get out of bed to shower and get dressed? OK, what is possible right now? Can I get up? Awesome! Can I drink a glass of water? Perfect! On some days it just is like that, I have to accept that I'm doing the best I can at any given moment. Having a mantra (be it "the next right thing" or mine) really helps with focusing on what is achievable right now.
What's interesting about Hans mirroring Anna is that they've placed symmetry in all the shots of "Love's an Open Door" It isn't until later, when he starts revealing himself for what he is... and he's doing it while staring at a reflection of HIMSELF. From what I read (and I think the SuperCarlin brothers did a video on it, too) is that Hans represents the "mirror" in the original story. I'd really love a Psychology of a Villain piece on him, sometime.
He’d be a difficult villain to “therapize” because he’s honestly terribly written, you can’t make any real life sense of anything he does. The whole movie isn’t great writing, but Hans is just more proof that the movie ended up being rushed to the finish line.
@@jenniferhiemstra5228 The only unrealistic thing about Hans is that his motivations come out early (to fit into the movie runtime), while real life manipulators are usually playing the long game--at least as long as it takes to get what they want. Other than that, he makes perfect sense. He's born a prince, and feels entitled. But his older brothers will be inheriting the throne, so he goes out to "win" a princess to get the stuff he feels he deserves. People have manipulated their potential partners for lesser things than that.
Ok this wasn't fair. Anna's song Do the next right thing speaks so loudly to me as I lost my husband 5 years ago when he was only 35 out of the blue. This song I so relate to and bawl everytime I hear it ya'll did great on this.
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I have studied psychology since elementary school and start college this semester. I have discovered that my abandonment issues and trust issue come from my attachment to many people that have left due to the fact that I am autistic or other personal reasons. I always have made friends with people like Hans who are only nice to me because they feel that they "have" to be. Very rarely have I found someone to be genuinely friends with like kristoff.
What if I can't afford to become a member, but could really use the strength exercises?
They don't take medicare/medicade so it's a no go
I know doing shows are harder and take more time but I think you should try to tackle Attack on Titan and Death Note that would be a really good watch for the both of you
"Its so cute, until its so sad." Sums up Disney and or Pixar nicely.
I immediately thought of Up.
"Oh, how cu-oh no"
I would say its more about Pixar than Disney, at least historically
Mostly Pixar
Dreamworks too LOL
Or any other bittersweet film
At some point, we need a video diagnosing Willy Wonka's psychological issues.
This!!!
Villain Therapy.
The video I never knew I needed. YES!
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In my opinion, Anna is one of the most important characters in modern animation.
She is endlessly self-sacrificing and fiercely compassionate. I love that her arc isn’t overcoming grief. Instead, she uses her grief to motivate her. She loses everyone but she does the next right thing because she has to.
This is a brilliant take!
Precisely, much like Wanda, she loses almost everyone she loves. But unlike Wanda, Anna rises to the challenge, and doesn't let her grief consume her, and overcomes it in the end.
Yet most cannot even give her the time of day and claim she is annoying. Fanart is depressing wasteland of Goddess Elsa pics and hers being boring and uninspired.
I would argue she did the next right thing because she *chooses* to, which I think is so much more powerful.
@@Miss_Myth agree!
Kristoff's line, "My love is not fragile," gets me every time. He doesn't say that Anna didn't hurt his feelings, he just assures her that even though she might have not given him the level of attention he deserved during most of the movie, he still loves her. Anna spends the whole movie afraid of losing the people she cares about and Kristoff basically saying that he loves her even when she makes mistakes shows a maturity to their love and his understanding of Anna's fear of loss/abandonment.
this line murders me every time and i love it.
The love duett between Anna and Hans is actually genious when you watch it after knowing the twist in the end. Notice how it's always Anna who leads with telling him something private about herself and then he chimes in and mirrors her by saying how much he can relate and feels the same and has experienced similar things in a way that is almost matching too well to be true, but he never contributes anything about himself that brings a new aspect to the table and isn't specifically tailored to match what she said about herself before? That's a masterful manipulator at work, making her belief he is her perfect match when actually nothing that he says is true.
Yeah, at first listen, you think how perfect a fit they are that they're both thinking "sandwiches" rather than "sentences"; it's only with hindsight that you realise that, while Anna was being her quirky, adorable self, Hans never does anything surprising that she could agree or disagree with.
Yeah, also the title is creative as well. Love is an open door; love is an open door is metaphor for Anna cause love is an open door lol, but Hans version is Love is an open door to becoming king
But in a way if u read the story tht is kinda towards it it might not be little cannon but it does help us understand what Hans went through in a way
I remember watching the movie when you find out his true intentions gasping, and listening to that song now. You can see he is manipulating her so bad, breaks my heart.
Also what i think also hinted at them not being good couple, was literally when they sung or just interacted. Singing the line love is an open door in the duet they not once were in sync, in the movie was normal for anna to walk into him in the song, and even smack him into face
It makes sense that Anna would be so desperate for a meaningful connection, after lacking affection for most of her childhood, that she'd immediately agree to marry the first guy who was kind to her. At least she managed to establish a healthier bond with the initially gruff Kristoff, shows his softer side.
Yeah and I never got the reason why people criticized Anna for that. It’s a very consistent character flaw that she clearly gets over. I’m so glad that these guys are analyzing her to this degree.
Very much relate a lot Anna in this regard.
A lot of my childhood crushes were based on "he's nice to me" since I went through a lot of bullying, alienation and lack of friends at school. I totally understand Anna's naivety leaning on Hans.
And people hate me when I point out that it's mostly Elsa's (and as an extension: their parent's) fault that Anna fell for Hans.
@@Atlessa I wouldn't go with "hate".
I'd just point out they had a pretty huge (and unique) problem to deal with in Elsa's powers. And plus, you know, running a kingdom.
They loved Anna, but she wasn't going to accidently freeze the household staff.
I'm gonna dig a little deeper:
When Olaf dies, the implication is that Elsa also died, because without her Olaf ceases to be. So she is sad about losing Olaf, but she realizes her sister is also probably dead. That's when she hits rock bottom.
Well yeah, when Olaf is starting to flurry away, he says something like “I think Elsa may have gone too far”
Not to mention she realises that the dam will have to be broken and everyone in Arendelle, the kingdom that she's partially responsible for, is going to lose their homes
Olaf dies because Thanos snapped his finger
In the song she sings "How to rise from the floor when it's not you I'm rising for" hits really hard. Up until that point Elsa has been the most important person in Anna's life, and now she's not going to be there, she's lost her reason for living. It's easy to see why she feels so alone, lost and without purpose.
When you're grieving, the next right thing could simply be "get out of bed." Or "do the dishes." Simple, everyday tasks become so hard. This song I think was written by someone who has been there.
@Josie Violett they even honoured him by making him one of the tribe members TT
I remember when I was trying Al Anon bc of my mom, the concept of just getting through the next breath, the five seconds, the next minute, etc
@Josie Violett im doing better, yes- i moved out and across the country about two and a half years ago as soon as i had a degree, job, and enough money to start out. Like, I love my mom, but It's really still best if i love her through a phone and across a continent.
I never lost someone close to me and experienced grieving in that way. But having been through a traumatic an turbulent childhood that song really hits hard.
Kristen Bell said in the Disney+ series about the making of Frozen 2:
"This mantra of “do the next right thing” came out of a conversation that [writer & director Jennifer Lee] and I had really early on about my anxiety and depression…
…and I think, "do the next right thing," it really is for anyone who is feeling low and struggling and does not know what to do, because the only thing you can do at those lowest moments is one step at a time…
…when I’m experiencing that, for me if I wake up and I’m feeling very low, all I gotta do is step out of bed. And then the next right thing is to brush my teeth. And then the next right thing is to get a cup of coffee. And then the next right thing is to wake my kids up. And I take those steps incrementally when the world and its problems seem too big for me to handle.
…and it’s a song that will affect me, in my bones, forever."
"He reflects her language back at her" he's a mirror. yes, he's a villain but he's a mirror he mirrors the personality/traits of those around him to fit the situation
Funny because in the original fairy tale starts with a mirror 🪞
@@Jimmyvida didn't know that- and I apologize for a lack of details explaining what my original comment meant I'm not good with details, it was another youtube's theory that when I watched their video just fit Hans.
Like Jimmy said; in the original fairytale, it's a brother and sister and the Ice Queen freezes the boy's heart with a shard from her ice mirror and the sister melts it with a hug. So yeah, I kinda liked the twist where they kept Hans as a mirror to Anna and Elsa.
Narcissists tend to mirror their victims & children of narcissists who decide to be 'people pleasers' also learn to mirror others in order to benefit themselves / avoid pain. Mirroring is a real thing people do, but only damaged / broken people learn that behavior.
@@amyliaclenny1866 Also neurodivergent people-
Hans upstages Anna all throught their song. He's constantly pushing into her lines, stepping over her musical toes, trying to go harder, hold a note longer, louder.
Nice one.
What's your point here?
@@amyliaclenny1866 the point is that, despite seeming to be an equal duet which reflects their apparent chemistry for each other, Hans constantly upstaging Anna throughout what is supposed to be THEIR song, reveals that he is in actuality still actively controlling more of the song. Just like how he is intending to manipulate and gain control over Anna.
@@sugarkats21 & @Ianthe Silverfire While I agree with you about Prince Hans manipulating Princess Anna through the 'duet' song & it not being an equal duet, I disagree with both of you that Prince Hans was leading the duet song. Anna started it, ended it & Hans paused for her input on the next word several times *because* he was mirroring her, not leading. He only leads her along after he's lured her in, after the song. 'Love is an Open Door' is his villain song, I won't dispute that. What I dispute is how he went about mirroring her during the duet, how he manipulated her: he's doing what most "people pleaser" type Manipulators do, which is appear to like / love everything you do as long as they need you. After he's found out those things Princess Anna loves, so he can manipulate her better, he doesn't have to mirror her actions or speach anymore. However, as a "people pleaser" type manipulator he will continue to do so, as he perceives it's necessity, until Princess Anna's no longer of any use to him.
Because at the end of the day, that's all Anna ever was to him: A Princess = 👸💰🐄🤑
You may be wondering where I'm getting all this "people pleaser" type manipulator talk from. It's quite simple really. I read 'A Frozen Heart' the book based on the Disney movie written from Anna's perspective. Also, knowing that he's referred to as a mirror & a chameleon in the behind the scenes videos, I looked up what kind of manipulator (narcissist) does these things & if it was true of all Manipulators / narcissists. Turns out it's not. 😅
@@amyliaclenny1866 Oh I didn't really notice that Hans was stepping over her lines or anything, I was just explaining what the OP was trying to indicate. And yeah, I agree with the spiel about him mirroring her on purpose, I think John addresses that too during the song?
Anna is just so well written as a character. Anxious attachment is difficult and to see someone come into their own while facing their deepest fears (not a monster, not a power, but loneliness) is so amazing. And in a kids movie.
she proves that you don't need powers to be a good person, we need more characters like her
As an anxiously attached person I agree so much with this!
@@ebaugh7320 I'm sorry, but I have to get this off my chest. There are already books, movies, and maybe comics where characters don't have powers. You say we don't have enough characters who don't have powers, but in fact we already have a lot of characters with no powers in them. I'm just saying, but it seems like the characters with powers are getting hate, while the characters with no powers are getting praise. How is that fair?
@@mindybrown4952 "how is that fair" I'm kinda of betting it
really just ISN'T
@@mindybrown4952 Nobody is hating on character with powers. Its just that for quite a while, movies would show us that character with powers are special and strong but character with no powers are just side characters and plus it speaks to the audience personally because seeing a powerless character be so badass right beside a character with superpowers, it makes them feel like they can do it too.
Who ever told their kids that Hans started out good but became evil later in the movie in order to "preserve the magic" of the song, made a huge mistake. They should've used that moment to teach their kids that there are people who will have bad intentions for you from the beginning, while seeming very nice and sincere. Use this movie to teach your kids about the potential dangers when dating.
Not just when dating. Like Jono said, the best relationships are built on healthy friendships, so take your time to go through your vetting process, to reflect and really find out what you want from that relationship
@@TheEllie138 Agreed.
I literally said that out loud to myself when watching this. It's a HUGE missed opportunity to teach kids about emotional manipulation, and doesn't actually help them. All it does is make the parents feel better and give their kids a false sense of comfort that risks harming them in the future. Good intentions or not, it's ultimately selfish :/
I've always said to my three year old that Hans pretended to be nice
@@Laineybaby25 Good.
Hans: "I would never shut you out."
Hans: *shuts her in*
Me: I mean ... I guess?
PLEASE, I- *sobs because of how accurate and almost funny it is, but it still hurts*
As someone who lived this relationship, this is what abusers do. They shut you away from all friends and family and leave you cold.
I'm dying 😂
Ahahaha
You have SOME NERVE, Lucy! XD
5:22 Hearing you guys talk about “Love is an Open Door” is an incredibly chilling take on abusive relationships because anyone who hasn’t been in an abusive relationship tends to think that it can’t happen to them because they’re too smart, or they can pick up on manipulation, or they can sense when someone has ulterior motivations… but it doesn’t happen like that. A lot of times, it happens like Anna and Hans.
Someone comes to you and it feels like you finally caught a break, like there’s finally a clearing in the woods where you get to rest. You trust that peaceful, quiet place. It isn’t until it’s too late that you realize you’re trapped in a clearing surrounded by trees too far to see your way out of. Anyone can be a victim because, really, everyone is waiting for someone who lets them feel like they can finally stop holding their breath. And that’s when they get you. I didn’t fully believe that until this video.
YES.
I had precursors from my past that made me more likely to be attracted to an abuser, but I had never been treated the way I was by my ex… And thus, the love bombing characteristic of those with narcissisistic or sociopathic tendencies felt real, and it wasn’t until months into a marriage when this man was cursing me and calling me names behind closed doors that I thought, “what the hell did I get myself into? “
Anybody can become a victim, but in turn, any victim can become a survivor. Being in an abusive relationship is a lot like cancer; it's not a pretty thing, it's often hard to see before it gets bad, and while removing it can leave us weak and with long-term damage, it leaves us alive to live our lives for however long we have it. Fighting and not surviving or having that life cut short because of the damage done doesn't make that fight meaningless. Relapsing and having to fight again or getting something entirely new and terrible in it's own way doesn't make us stupid. We become victims because of something outside of our control; we become survivors when we take that control back.
Well i don't think it's happening to me, not because I'm smart, but i have trust Issues due to abuse and manipulation i faced from my family and friends years ago as a child.. so I'm a little experienced on this stuff..
@@empandora123 Actually, and I'm not saying that's you, but there is a tendency for people with past trauma (especially childhood trauma) to be more susceptible to manipulation. The reason is, if you grow up with abuse and trauma, you tend to normalize it and cannot see red flags as well. Maybe that's not you but... be alert anyway fam. I faced childhood abuse too and got manipulated and abused. Being abused in childhood doesn't give you immunity sadly.
I think that the best word that I have found that describes the beginning of an abusive relationship is: Grooming.
The thing I appreciate the most about this series is the willingness of the hosts to show raw emotion. I grew up in a home and around men who never showed their sadness or grief. It was anger only. I was literally taught that men don’t feel love. Watching you guys is cathartic. Thank you.
I understand where both of you are coming from. The men around you were taught what their fathers and society taught them -- "Never be weak or you are not a man." That right there is actual toxic masculinity. It prevents emotional growth, connection, and the ability to have empathy. I.E. the things you need to be a strong, reliable, human being. And when SHTF, where do these emotions go? Anger. Because there's no other outlet except pain. All these problems just to look "strong".
I'm not trying to "one-up" on your experience, but in some cultures and families this lands even harder, because girls and women are expected (and taught) not to show their feelings either.
@@NapoleonCalland true - I was adopted, and was shamed for being angry, upset, depressed etc (wasn’t even really allowed to grieve over being separated from my birth family, as a very young child) and my adoptive parents’ biological son was shamed for getting upset, unless it was over a death (pets, family). Even then, none of the adults really showed much emotion. All very stiff upper lip, but the side effect of that was twofold - it made deaths of family members seem almost insignificant, and I don’t really talk to family when I’m upset.
@@ShintogaDeathAngel on the other hand, too much emotion is just as bad. My parents shamed me for being angry. But they had times when they lectured me over bad grades or staying up late, yelling and angry at me as if I'd actually committed a crime/killed their loved one, and it triggered my fight flight response even tho rationally i wasnt going to die, and they werent going to hurt/beat/hit me over those things. Also ditto for kids who grew up with their parents arguing in front of them and/or other family and friends.
"Manipulation is just the dark side of social skills" ... Woah...
Truth. I had really good social skills and realized I could manipulate people very easily early on and that scared me. I almost did a 180 for a while where I wouldn't try to persuade anyone of anything and was just very head on about things.
Then I realized, it's really really really about intent. So I ask myself if it's about me or other people's well-being when I go to persuade someone. I probably err too far in not pursuing my own interests but I really don't want to be the kind of person who takes advantage of others (am currently learning to balance that a bit more).
@@hollyl5702 wow, absolutely same. I mean not the manipulation part but I can lie so easily with a straight face so I was terrified because I didn't want to become a liar so I'm basically having the same thing that you are 😂
Why am i getting star wars vibes?
@Josie Violett yeah, I didn't lie so much (except to try to evade punishment as a kid) as I could just tell how to get people to do things.. flatter them.. that sort of thing. I don't know how to explain it. That could all be a positive in leadership skills and whatnot, it just comes down to intent.
And yes, I've been learning to be much more assertive through the years rather than abrasive/combative (which was my counter to manipulative). My situation as a kid was kind of complex so behavior modeled in human relationships wasn't always the best.
Edited to add: since you mused on it, I don't get social anxiety, but I think I'm an ambivert. My favorite place to be is amidst people where I have absolutely no need or social obligation to interact with them but I can if I want (think cafes, festivals, concerts). Lots of positive energy. Dunno why but that makes me happy.
I think manipulation inherently isn't a negative thing, its just an ability, what you do with it is what matters. the intentions has to be counted as well.
An exaggerated example here is someone being a dumbass and endangering their own life or maybe someone else and you had to lie, twist your words and manipulate to make them stop, would that be a bad thing. IMO no, but maybe others feel differently.
I saw a few interviews with Kristen where she talks about the fact that “Do the next right thing” is a mantra of hers to help her with her depression or anxiety. I thought that was a really interesting fact. And I will say I have used it as well when this pandemic has gotten really hard.
I'm pretty sure the skeleton lyrics were written the day after Chris Buck's (director of Frozen1) son passed away, it was during the press tour for the first frozen. I remember reading an interview where he wrote these ideas and notes for personal use but found it more fitting to be put into a song and brought them to Kristen. So when you say "who ever wrote these lyrics knows what it's like", they most definitely do.
My mantra is "either it gets better, or it'll pass." Works better in Norwegian tho.
Can yall people stop using words like Mantra or Om without knowing their real meanings , thank you.
@@sukhinwonderlandd it works in their context as a phrase used repeatedly and has no reference on the Hindu roots which I'm presuming you're basing your comment off of. You're nitpicking at this point and doing so incorrectly 💀
@@sukhinwonderlandd agreed, we have a perfectly fine English word "motto" that is too often overlooked (if motto doesn't sound fancy enough then put it in Latin on a coat of arms I guess)
I remember seeing the first Frozen in the theater, and when Hans reveals his true character, the entire room gasped, and one woman shouted "He did NOT!"
I almost called him a m**rf**r
I saw it for the first time at my neighbors's house. They had all seen it before and kept speaking the lines with the characters and sing along. I was very confused, as an uninformed 11 years old.
And people say that twist villains don't work...Welp, they gotta think again since this one seemed to have worked.
@@justagray-ace2787 They don’t work on the whole because it tends to be based on lazy writing and narrative. The only real twist villain in the Disney canon that works well is King Candy.
@@jenniferhiemstra5228 I don't know. I saw that one coming, when they talked about Turbo disappearing, but Hans was a total shock. I'm so on the fence about whether I think it was originally a planned twist, or something they threw in later, though.
anna is legitimately one of the best disney princesses (probably second only to Mulan). she has no powers, no frills, just sheer determination and being extremely proactive about helping her sister. she's so brave it almost borders on stupidity. she's an intensely lovable, super funny character played brilliantly by kristen bell who should really get more voice acting parts. Anna is so underrated.
She's the best! Glad someone else said so! 💞
She is one of the best Disney characters for sure. Hands down. ❤
She is one of my favourite princesses ever!!
Mulan is no princess.
She is my favorite character in life, definitely my favorite princess! I love her and am so inspired by her! 💗
18:00
“How to rise from the floor, when it’s not you I’m rising for”
That line hit me the hardest because of the reason you mentioned in the video. I lost two of my siblings and six people in three years. November of last year I just gave up. I was broken and I felt like there was not turning back for me. My parents started drinking, I was feeling so much resentment towards my last sister, school was awful, I wanted to die. But I decided to carry on. I don’t know how I clinged on. Will I suppose. Now a year later and everything isn’t perfect, but I am in a much better place.
It's great to read you're in a better place. Thanks for sharing this. I hope things get even better for you and your family
I'm so So glad you are doing better!!!! I hope that everything continues to get better for you!!
I’m glad you’re doing better, even if it is still hard.
I love how Alan has moved from calling himself 'unlicensed' to "professional" filmmaker. 😍
Top 10 Anime Arcs
Character development of high quality
What shows/movies has he made? Any recommendations? Worth watching?
Aww i didnt notice that before, go Alan!
I haven't seen Frozen 2, so hearing, "If you don't want me running after you into fire, then Don't Run Into Fire!!" Is such a strong line it completely took me off guard. Holy shit.
The first time I saw the movie that line caught me off guard too. It's so powerful
Of the two Frozens, it's my favorite by far. Maybe because it's got the most character growth by the character I relate most strongly to? Hadn't thought of that til just now. Anyway, the music is *incredible* in the second Frozen, as they've pointed out. Kristoff gets an 80s power ballad, also, which is ah-MAZING.
@@OuchingTigerLimpingDragon I think you mean Kristoff.. But yea I agree with you.. The 2nd film is so good!
@@ChristalSJ15(bangs head against table once) Yes, you're correct, I DID mean Kristoff. Thanks for catching that!
@@ChristalSJ15 Fixed! Now your comment is gonna look weird, lol
In “Love is An Open Door”, someone pointed out to me that in the line “You and I are just meant to be”, Hans says “You” and Anna says “I“. Which inadvertently tells the audience that Hans doesn’t have good intentions, as she is essentially alone in her feelings
When she said "sandwiches!" And he didn't I knew he's susp
@@seekittycat omg!
@@seekittycat and he was like “that’s what i was gonna say!” super sus
Also he says "I've been waiting my whole life to find my own place" and gestures to Arendelle, not Anna. Which tells us straight away he is thinking literally about a kingdom and not figuratively about his place with her. Well, that's what set off my arsehole radar anyway.
@@seekittycat Yo same!
Hans was a great new type of villain because he didn’t LOOK or act like a typical animated/Disney villain. If you look at Disney villains since then, you can see a shift in how they portray antagonists in most (not all) animated films: Inside Out, Zootopia, Moana, Coco, Ray’s and the Last Dragon, etc.
Hans worked up until the third act when he took the mask off for no real reason with Anna. I think they could have done a bomb-under-the-table sort of thing where Hans talked about his plan behind closed doors or simply had him reveal who he is to Elsa and keep the act up with Anna to build sympathy since he knows she's doomed. In the case of the latter, you could even have Anna finally realize that she fell far too hard and quick for a dude she barely knows when she stops him from killing Elsa (followed by Elsa filling her in on the weasel gloating about how she was right the entire time, but Anna was too dumb/starved for love to believe her). That would have been a more nuanced approach for what they seemed to have been going for with Anna coming to the truth with more agency than having her creep boyfriend spell it out
Yeah, he doesnt look like a villian at all at the start, i think it's because disney movies dont have much plot twist.
Hans would have worked as a twist villain if we never saw him alone and only with other people like we did with the villain in Zootropolis/Zootopia.
Hans might not have looked or acted like one.... but if you're familiar with musical theater, he sounds like one. By that, I mean usually your male romantic lead is a tenor. Hans is not (I know this because I can sing along with his part in the duet with Anna) Hans is a baritone, which is the same as how characters like Gaston are cast for their singing roles. Kind of burried the twist for me.
Raya and the Last Dragon did it a bit differently. Nemari (I think that’s her name) was shown to be an antagonist at the start of the movie but from there we really weren’t sure who’s side she was really on until the very end when she did redeem herself and join Raya’s group. Every other twist villain seemed good, but then suddenly turned evil at the end and that was that.
The scene where there is no color but Anna, I think that is a great visual of depression... I have major anxiety, depression and am seeing a therapist. This song always brings me to tears...
Exactly, well the depression feels like sinking into an abyss of darkness, sadness, loneliness, powerless and immense nostalgia.
There is one thing I feel that is important about the “act of true love” that we miss a lot. We all know that its cool that its not romantic, but what is even more important is that it completely changes the way Anna views love as a whole. Her whole take on love throughout the movie is “love me, love me, love me!” This is the first time she changes from “love me” to “I love you”. That is what truly melts her heart and saves her.
While I agree, I also disagree. Anna's act of sacrifice for Elsa isn't what melted her heart, it was Elsa *finally* letting go of her "conceal, don't feel" and grieving the loss of her sister. It's not until she cries that Anna unfreezes. Otherwise, Anna would have unfrozen immediately after blasting Hans away.
@@Black-Swan-007 right, it's ELSA's true love that breaks the spell, not Anna's. Although, true to the movie, they needed each other to realize it.
@@Black-Swan-007 actually it WAS Anna's act of sacrifice for Elsa that melted her heart. She decided to die for her sister, she chose Elsa's life over her own - there's no bigger love than this. And this is exactly the kind of act of true love that could melt a frozen heart.
@@7snowdog No. Yes, Anna chose her sister over herself but if that was all it took then she wouldn't have frozen or would have melted her own heart. Anna remained frozen for several minutes. It wasn't until Elsa finally let her in that she melted.
@@Black-Swan-007 it only took several minutes for the sake of the suspension and drama, so the viewers would believe she died. But the real reason is her sacrifice. As it is in the movie, "an act of true love can thaw a frozen heart" - and this was an act of true love. Pretty powerful i should say.
Anna's song "The Next Right Thing" is the, absolute, best depiction of depression I have seen. When you are so crushed by your grief/depression/problems, that you can't see, or handle anything beyond a single step forward. Been there.
I had someone almost die on me through suicide and this came out a year after that and Annas song was so incredibly accurate it was unnerving. Later on a family member of mine went through postpartum psychosis and everyone was crying in my house every day and this song helped me be strong and help look after her baby.
Yeah. It's okay to not be strong sometimes, but too much of it can have serious consequences, such as not taking care of a baby, or going so far psychologically that it becomes hard to come back from it the longer we stay that way. You found your own ways to remain strong through all these situations that also happened to you, and you deserve an applause for that. Doing that takes effort that certain people aren't willing to go through because breaking through that initial intense discomfort is quite difficult.
I just noticed; When Anna is singing happy songs & enjoying herself, the lyrics are very modern, simple and easy to understand. But when she sings "The next right thing", the lyrics are complex, it's full of metaphors & the song has layers of grief. Like something actually written in that particular timeline. It reflects her personality, & how she has to change, just like she's singing in the song.
That’s the subversive part of “Love is an Open Door”. My wife said Hans is exactly her narcissistic, sociopathic, abusive ex-husband and so many warning bells in Hans rewatching it after her divorce. And having met him myself, because of having to attempt to coparent with him, it is 100% true. He tried to charm me until he realized he couldn’t manipulate me that he was the real good guy, then turned on me just like Hans, by trying to provoke me into hitting him, making false and unsubstantiated child abuse reports, trying to get me fired, etc.
PS: The song is true, she’s just singing it with the wrong person.
Anna's song was actually based on the actress's life long battle with depression. She once told audience in a show that that's just what she does in her dark days.
This is why we STAN Kristen Bell
It was also about Chris Buck losing his son right after the first film released, and how he learned to cope
This is soo important to know, because sometimes even the next right thing is an uphill battle even if is small
There’s a great documentary on the making of Frozen II (Into the Unknown) on Disney and it goes into both Kristen Bell and Chris Bucks’ story and the inspiration for taking the next right step.
Which song?
I remember crying in the cinema during "the next right thing" because suddenly I could relate to the lyrics and this feeling so badly. And It just hit me then... I didnt realize before that Im in such a bad place until I heard this song...
omg same!
Same!! I still tear up when listening to it
You should really do Lilo and Stitch and Lilo and Nani. Those relationships are so beautiful~
Yes please!!!
YES
YES! They're beautiful and also definitely realistic sisters... they yell at each other lol
“I like you better as a sister than as a mum”. 😭
@@StormTalara "and you like me better as a sister than a rabbit right...?" 😭
What’s amazing is that Hans never once lies during that song. He masterfully reflects, using language she will project erroneous meaning into. It was so artfully written.
I just realized something. During Love Is An Open Door, Anna is the only one who touches and opens the doors throughout the song. I think that reflects to her being open and vulnerable to manipulation. She is an open book and so willing to trust in any situation and that costs her in some ways later on.
"The Next Right Thing" was like a sucker punch to the chest. I realize that Disney tries to make itself relatable and emotional, but this felt a little too real for me. Great song and great acting, but holy crap!
I kept telling all my friends, this is NOT a movie for kids!
They were right, whoever wrote that was there.
@@harvestmoon_autumnsky I'm sorry, but I personally disagree with the not for kids bit. I remember as a kid I pretty much went through depression, isolating myself from others, sometimes thinking what was the point in getting up the next day, so I'm sure that anyone who is a kid and currently feels like this would want and need to see a movie like this that feels relatable and makes them know they aren't alone.
@@justagray-ace2787 Completely agree. I think serious topics absolutely should be included in kids films. As a kid those kinds of movies were actually my favorite.
I think it would be better to word it as not JUST for kids. It is a movie for everyone.
Anna's sad song in the second movie affected me the most. I was so glad I went to the theater alone because I bawled my eyes out for that one.
It just reminded me of my lowest points in my past and that I was just walking step by step from then, literally forcing myself to do the basic things.
When I watched this movie and listened to this song, I realized I was finally at peace with myself. I felt like I overcame the worst of it without even realizing it and I could actually see how much I have grown from then. I felt proud of myself which was something I didn't feel for quite some time.
I had a similar experience when I saw the movie in theaters. The lyrics of The Next Right Thing blew me away and brought up SO many feelings for me as a depression sufferer. I started tearing up from the first line of the song in this video haha
It was the first movie my niece watched in the theatre and I asked her if she liked it.
“Yeah, but it was so sad”
Poor girl, this is her Mufasa I guess 🙈
I was not alone (with my bf at the time) but it still left me bawling
Oh dang, I personally liked the "Hans is mind controlled by the trolls because they want Kristoff to be with Anna" theory, but never considered how much it takes away from the lesson that manipulators often start out really nice.
Me too. Also i would like it / believe it better if he had made some kind of sign for us (audience) without Anna watching. But instead all we got was that goofy “I’m in love” smile. They missed the opportunity there and made a bad “villain plot twist” like in zootopia and Incredibles 2.
@@Jimmyvida I think they really wanted that pen drop surprise villain at the end but you’re right, I would’ve loved to see his smile just *drop* when Anna walks away.
Like not even an ‘it’s all coming together’ evil smile, just a drop in his facade would’ve been cool.
But thats bit how manipulators work. They are still sappy and "in love" whenever there's an audience or they can be caught out. So Hans giving an evil smirk would take away from the manipulators start put nice in the beginning and try fool everyone reality.
The goofy smile story wise could be taken as him thinking "wow she is so nieeve" instead of "wow she cute" or whatever
Sorry I know this is an old conversation but I’ve seen this comment a few times. Personally I think showing us an obvious clue like that negates the message somewhat.
Manipulators don’t give out obvious clues or wear a villainous smile.
If we were in on it early on, it would leave many viewers thinking it was obvious he’s a bad guy and that they’d never fall for someone like that themselves.
The fact is that there are clues the whole way through as to his insincerity & manipulation. It’s just that they are the types of clues we actually get in real life. The love bombing, the mirroring etc.
If only the bad guys did actually give an evil smile or cackle after they got away with something then I doubt many people would fall for the performance. I think the way they show it is much more realistic and useful for teaching kids about what to look out for.
Do The Next Right Thing is a *powerful* song. I'm glad ya'll focused on it so much. In 2019 I had twin boys born at 26 weeks and one of them died. The beginning of that song takes me right back to those moments right after his death, and then when she stands up I remember finding hope in my surviving son and "doing the next right thing," by doing what needed to be done for him and his care.
Sorry you went through that loss
Frozen 2 blew me away as a Disney sequel. Frozen 1 was good but 2 just stepped it up in every way. I was so surprised by how emotionally complex the narrative and the character development was. Moments like Anna's depression song was so dark and so real I was so vastly impressed. A truly amazing movie.
Well some people would think it’s mediocre
I've seen a lot of people debate whether "Into the Unknown" or "Show Yourself" is the best song from Frozen 2. They're both excellent songs, but if you ask me, "The Next Right Thing" is the easy winner. The raw emotion of the lyrics and Kristen Bell's delivery are on a completely different level.
personally, the concept that there can be only one "best", so not appreciating both is silly. Cuts one off from experiencing more of whatever comes from each.
Agreed.
I tell my daughter "Love Is An Open Door" is the meanest villain song because he's making her think he loves her!
Also, love "The Next Right Thing," I was finally able to listen without crying, but then struggled with singing along without crying lol I was so impressed with this song.
I watched Frozen 2 with my parents when I was going through a major suicidal and depressive episode. During The Next Right Thing, my dad held my hand and we both just cried. Fair play to Disney to portray something so raw and real so respectfully and accurately.
❤️
Wonderful video as always. I never quiet caught the lyrics “I’ll make the choice, and hear that voice…”
Elsa hears the voice and can’t ignore it.
Anna has to choose to heat a voice that isn’t there. Not denying how awesome Elsa is, but Anna is all of us. This pre-echos “Falcon”/Sam’s speech at the end of Falcon and the Winter Soldier. “The only power I have is that I believe we can do better.”
I’m rambling. Thanks for a great video!
On that note, why are the reviews of The falcon and Winter Soldier so divided. So many people outright hate it while many people are saying one of the best shows? I, honestly, found it above average and a very big leap Marvel took if we consider their past movies
Honestly, when Frozen 2 came out I was going through a TERRIBLE time in life emotionally with my depression and anxiety and PTSD. It felt like my very foundations were shaken and torn apart and there was no one I could talk to who could relate. This movie illustrated my space in life PERFECTLY. From Elsa's rejection of her true self and then coming into her own and Anna's struggle with loneliness and abandonment...when I say I ugly sobbed during this film, I mean it.
Anxious attachments. So that's what it's called. Huh.
*takes notes
Craig Kenneth has a lot of videos on this topic and also I am planning to buy the book Attached by Amir Levine and Rachel Heller, you can check it out too if you are interested.
Same
Better do not go unto the terms... Otherwise it's much easier to have self diagnosis no matter how strong your will is. And that's not really something good. Just one more little problem that will push in silence and when you notice it will be too late.
Whenever I hear Anna's song Do The Next Right Thing, it kind of takes me back to The Hunger Games (books) and Katniss when she's depressed and is paralyzed by it she gives herself simple commands.
Ouch my feels.. why would you bring this up? I mean yes I see the connection, but whyyyyy my heaarrrrrt
Putting one foot in front of another and doing the next right thing is such strong words
Those simple commands could help anyone take a step In the right direction no matter the situation
@@gracehaven5459 i used that method too and i love the term robot mode, that's really cool!
@@wolfishpotato6978 It was the first thing that came to mind Anna telling herself to get off the floor and take one step and then another brought it back. You have to sit up Katniss, you have to drink water Katniss. Uuugh.
@@gracehaven5459 yeah it is definitely a trauma response. It's exactly like what they were saying, small, easy goals are more attainable. Even if it's just sitting up it's an easier goal to achieve than getting your life together which is an unbelievably high expectation that can seem so out of reach and impossible that taking even one step can seem like a huge effort. I think the line Anna sings sums it up very well "I won't look too far ahead, it's too much for me to take." Just gotta do what you have the spoons for.
Rising for yourself is hard. For years I kept pets, just to have a responsibility. Because if all I had to go to work for was to take care of myself, I wouldn't have done it. But I had to feed the dog. I could suffer through one more day for that.
I feel this on a spiritual level
Yes. I adopted my cat when I was at my lowest a couple of years ago. I lived alone in an unfamiliar city for the first time. I got her so I would have a reason to come home. “No I have to come home today, I need to feed my cat.”
@@NBFAN00B Same for me. My cat has been the only steady presence in years of change and much struggle. Without her, even getting out of bed would have seemed a totally insane act - just why? But then she expects me to be there, no matter what.
"The next right thing" actually is a mantra that Kristen Bell told herself in the morning while dealing with depression. She was actually talking with the director about that, so this song really was inspired by her own experiences as well. I guess that's the reason why this song is so extremely powerful and emotional. It really gets me every time because I was in a phase of loosing my health and therefore a lot of hope when I first saw the movie and heard that song. It now really means so much to me.
I love how emotionally realistic this movie is I have been in emotionally manipulated exactly like this over and over again because I do have abandonment issues. When you get into a toxic relationship it starts out amazing if they started off horrible the relationship wouldn’t even happen but it’s so realistic for the enemy to start out as a person the protagonist values. Telling kids that he used to be good and turned bad is not a good lesson for kids to learn sometimes bad people come in pretty packages
imo, Hans is the next evolution of Gaston, and it's kinda fascinating to me how the latter tends to be revered as a villain, while the former is derided by so many. Bc like, "sometimes bad people come in pretty packages" is the essence of Gaston as a character, with him being set up to be an inversion of the Beast, and it's often been said that his uniqueness as a villain is in the fact that he'd likely be the hero in most other stories. But the major difference, of course, is that Gaston is unambiguously signaled to the audience as being an antagonist, even if the true depth of his villainy was concealed a bit by the initial comedic tone of his scenes in the beginning of the movie (which is why I love that Gaston gets 2 villain songs to explore those different sides of him). So to me, Hans seems like a great and more nuanced and subtle evolution of this concept---as much as I love Gaston as a villain, I will admit that he sometimes gets SO over the top that he can kinda start feeling more like a caricature than like someone who could exist in real life. He can be a lot of fun as a character, but I don't feel like there's ever a moment where you're siding with the Bimbettes over Belle, or thinking that Gaston would be a good match for her. And while I'm sure that people exactly like Gaston do exist in the real world, I feel like there are far more people like Hans, so I think that this more realistic depiction of manipulators and toxic people conveys the lesson even better.
This is not to say that Hans is a completely flawless execution of this concept---it does feel a bit like they're over-correcting in his villain reveal scene, and are trying a bit too hard to make absolutely certain that his evilness is hammered into your head. The brilliance of Hans before the reveal was in the subtlety and how realistic his manipulative behavior was, but that is all completely tossed out the window after the reveal---yes, manipulators and abusers will turn on you eventually, but they don't tend to turn on a dime quite that sharply and start spouting a villain monologue at you. XP To me, what's most jarring about the scene is not the switch from seeming good to evil, but rather the abrupt heavy-handedness, which then makes Hans come across as suddenly overconfident in a stupid way, and it defangs him a bit as a villain imo. But I suppose that's a minor point overall, as it doesn't detract too much from lesson that Hans's character is meant to teach kids (unlike the trolls and that godforsaken song "Fixer Upper" ://).
I always saw Anna as very impulsive, funny, a good getter for life. And like “I was born ready let’s go, woohoo!!” And Kristoff is very calm, methodical, and collected and very “you need to think things through.” He and Anna balance each other out
I’m so glad they did a video for Anna too and not just Elsa! I find Anna’s character very interesting.
she's a really strong character when you think about all the stuff she's been through, her loneliness and grief was understated
Does that mean Elsa's character isn't?
@@mellemadswoestenburg1296 x is interesting ≠ y is not interesting
@@Rin-ef2tp what does that mean?
@@mellemadswoestenburg1296 both are interesting characters but Anna is the type of strength that is not portrayed as well in most films. The determination to hold on and keep going dispite all the world falling apart on you is a very internal process so it can be hard to show on screen.
At different times in my life, I've been an Anna or an Elsa in my attachment style. I seem to be approaching a happy medium as I get older.
In that case, I'm so proud of you!! Really! It takes a lot to recover and get better with something that ingrained and by the sounds of it, you're smashing it xx
It's so easy to over-correct, both consciously, and unconsciously as a response to a bad experience.
Kudos for being self-aware enough to see that and work on it, and for getting to a healthier middle ground - something I'm still working on.
But, that's all part of the journey, right? :)
Anna's my FAVORITE princess!
1. She's so sweet
2. She's funny
3. She stands up for others, and even though her sister acted like a total jerk she still loved her
4. She really wanted to find romantic love so bad and I relate
5. She's the most fashionable, along with Tiana
6. She's not too ditzy like some of the classic princesses, but she's not the tough tomboy chick like Moana and Merida
7. I just feel like she's sisterly and motherly at the same time for some reason
Uh actually Elsa didn't act like a total jerk she was afraid of Turning someone into a ice sculpture
There was an interview with Kristen Bell where she was talking about the song about the song was based on what she tells herself when she's in her most depressive moments. I feel like that really does contribute to what the animators had to work with when it came to animating Anna in the 2nd movie
“Then we all went into quarantine for a year.”
You merely adopted the isolation. I was born in it. Moulded by it. I didn’t see love until I was already a woman.
I see you are a person on culture.
I connected to Anna the first time I saw the movie when Anna says "I am complelty ordinary". Everyone is awed by Elsa because of her powers, but I was intrigued more by Anna just because she doesn't have powers.
no I don't agree it's not because of Elsa's powers but her struggle to accept who she is and that's what resonated with most people. She's a great role model for people who have been told they are different and they must hide that difference because it is wrong, so seeing her 'let it go' and then 'show yourself' she does a 180; fully accepting herself and being happy with it. It's nothing to do with the ice powers. That was based on the Snow Queen but Elsa's characterisation was relatable. We root for people with struggles and root for them. Anna is great too.
Personally, I love both of them.
@@sbasi2739 I didn't mean to belittle Elsa, I was just annoyed that Anna usually gets overlooked/overshadowed by Elsa's story.
@@shadowolfstorm have you heard the frozen 1 outtake song, "more than just a spare"? If you haven't, i recommend this one.
I connected to Anna right away too, i'm also the second born sister, less popular, less interesting and generally "completely ordinary", like Anna. That's why she's my favourite Disney character. It's sad how people always compare her to Elsa, it's always sad for a sibling to be compared to the other, especially being the less popular one.
@@7snowdog I haven't, but I'm sure I'd love it. I don't have a personal sibling comparison, but I had the "ordinary/unimportant/uninteresting " feeling while being surrounded by people who where always considered "special, etc." so that's why I felt gut punched at Anna's quote. It's not that I don't like Elsa, it's just I felt she was always talked about enough compared to Anna who was more or less shoved to the side
I read that apparently the song was based off of Kristen Bell's own mental health struggles and the Next Right Thing was her mantra to help her through a bad episode with depression
Yes! She talked about it in the docu-series Disney+ did for the making of Frozen 2. She’s just an amazing human and shared something so personal with the world and I think it has helped and is going to help so many people.
@@celesteshamo8442 That's right! I knew I heard it somewhere but I couldn't remember where it was said, such a beautiful and powerful song
@@sarahvanorden670 and the strength to not only carry on but to share your story for others is a big thing.
With how often Kristen Bell talked about doing "the right thing" in the Good Place, I don't think she ever actually mentioned the _next_ right thing.
@@angeldude101 I noticed that! I watched the Good Place AFTER I watched Frozen 2, but didn't realise it was Kristen Bell until like... 3 episodes in. Then I couldn't unhear it!
"Do the next right thing" for Anna was actually taken from Kristen Bell's own experiences of depression am overcoming it, which is probably why it's so powerful both for the character and for application to real life.
“Do the next right thing” is also a mantra in AA and NA for people in recovery too. Don’t focus on needing to be sober for the rest of your entire life, focus on doing the next right think for yourself and your health and your sobriety.
I absolutely love that when Anna is coronated she has the same bun as Elsa had.
It’s their mom’s hairstyle too!
I remember as a kid, i hated anna. I thought she was dumb, impatient, exaggerated, and too prying. Now im older and more mature and i can understand her mentality. I can actually relate to her longing for connection. She’s one of my favourite characters now, so realistic and open-minded.
She is the needy little sister, but in these movies, you can really see why.
@@morganseppy5180 agreed, im also a little sister but i didn’t understand why she longed for connection that badly. I guess quarantine taught me smt
I always ❤️ Anna. I thought she was the more interesting/main character when I watched the movie. But I was also in college when it came out.
@@hollyl5702 ye i was pretty young, 5 or 6 i think, mayb 7
@@itz_moonwolf1480 that's fair. She'd be quite hard to understand as a character at that age.
"Omg me too! I relate so much to you I feel the same way!" I love how the movie displayed this manipulation and how behind the catchy lyrics is actually someone who didn't know her at all. He lets Anna fill in the sentences herself or says something generic. When he gets things wrong he just pretend it never happened because "omg we're so perfect for each other". It's scary how he can sense right away that Anna was extremely vulnerable.
"If you need therapy, get therapy!"
No.1 quote of 2021
One of the only times I have done like body convulsing sobbing during a movie was during The Next Right Thing. It is masterful between the lyrics, music, singing, and animation. It was so relatable. I've never lost anyone close to me, but I have been in deep, deep depression where I felt like there was literally nothing to continue on for. And yet I took step by step and "stumbled blindly toward the light." Thank God I know the Light.
Having lost a sister recently, my daughters and I cant watch this song without crying! It is a favorite in our house currently as we go through our grief. The words just hit differently now and they are so perfect!
I'm sorry for your lost, hope you feel better now
I’m so sorry.
I really wish they noted on the line “hello darkness, I’m ready to succumb” cuz I wanted to see their perspective on that but the review was amazing nonetheless.
When I first heard that line, I was surprised. Disney rarely goes that far when portraying grief and depression. It’s one of the very few times a protagonist is suggested to have serious suicidal thoughts.
@@TheRealPSKilla502 yea and I’ve heard people give that insight on other videos and channels so to see a therapist acknowledge that would have been nice
@@TheRealPSKilla502 I completely agree! It was my favourite line in the film!
I also remember think "hello darkness, my old friend" just so I didn't cry.
@@Frostfern94 This film gets me every time. Sadness when Elsa and Anna find their parents’s wrecked ship, then dread as Elsa sets out for Ahtohallan on her own and pushes Anna and Olaf away, then excitement when Elsa crosses the sea, then tears of joy during Show Yourself, especially when Elsa’s mom joins in, then absolute, utter dread when Elsa goes too far, despite her mom’s final warning “Go to far and you’ll be drowned” (nightmare fuel there), then the real tear jerker when Elsa freezes solid, Olaf flurries away into nothing, and Anna is left all alone in a literal cave. Then this song starts, and the waterworks start flowing. Every single time. First tears of sadness, then tears of joy as Anna emerges from the cave into the daylight. Haters will hate, but this movie is truly remarkable.
@@TheRealPSKilla502 that’s a brilliant perspective
I wish you guys would go into the filmography of animated films more. The perspectives and shots are very unique and thought provoking within the context. It’s something that should be explored more, as much as I love the therapy stuff
"therapy STUFF" -- ouch. I mean, they're called Cinema THERAPY after all. Maybe you would enjoy the Director's Cuts available once you subscripe to the (super)hero offer over on the website.
@@cherusiderea1330 Didn't mean to offend. Perhaps "therapy aspect" would have been a better phrase. They do delve into cinematography in their other videos just not with animated films as much.
5:43 "I know people have told their kids he wasn't evil when they sung this song, he turned evil in between..."
Sadly, that is also the message that in real life that some, who are manipulated by a real-life-Hann's type of charismatic but dangerous man, tell themselves... "He wasn't 'evil' in the past, maybe I can change him back to when he was not."
But really, it was always part of his plan.
Exactlyyyy. You think that the goodness was real and try to get back to that when in reality it was just the bait.
Loneliness is true suffering (I learned it).. For me the most heartbreaking moments for Anna the stages of her pain in Frozen II: her denial (when she found out about Elsa's "death", she said: "No, no" and said goodbye sadly to Olaf, who was connecting her to her childhood memories with Elsa), depression (I broke down in the cinema when she said: "Olaf, Elsa, now what do I do?" and more her heartbreaking song: truly reflects and feels her great pain and depression: You're lost the hope gone, I'm all alone), negotiation and aceptation (when during the song she tries to get up herself accepting that she must continue the mission without Elsa or Olaf and do the next right thing), Anna is truly incredible as Elsa, that is courage to continue forward despite the pain.. She is an excellent example..
I recognize myself in Anna and Elsa, and to be honest... it's frightening.
Good fiction does that.
Teaching life lessons without having to actual endure the tragedy yourself is part of the value of telling stories.
Ssssaaaame
On the topic of a "bad guy" getting the catchy song along with Anna.
I think it was a good choice, and I wish parents would talk more about humanizing things. The thing I struggle most with after having been manipulated, then discarded by a guy is the fact that the good times are now all tainted. I wasted so much time on those people.
I'm trying to work on still appreciating the good times I've had since those were my memories, but it's really hard.
I really wish I had learned this lesson when I was in the single digits. If we can teach kids this, then why not?
"The thing I struggle most with after having been manipulated, then discarded by a guy is the fact that the good times are now all tainted. I wasted so much time on those people." Holy shit, that feels like an arrow going through my heart-
I think it's important to note you are NEVER at fault for not realizing it sooner. Manipulation is unfortunately hard to see since, well...it's manipulation, which can also be gaslighting, making you wonder if you're just overreacting or not.
I'm so sorry you went through that, and I hope you can heal and get to enjoying the good memories without blaming yourself for the rest of it. It wasn't your fault x
I also completely agree with you about it being a really valuable opportunity for parents to teach their children about the risks in the world - especially when so many rapes and murders are committed by people the victim knows - which goes against the stereotypes of being attacked by a stranger/weirdo, etc. Too often the danger comes from the good looking/charming coworker/guy at the bar, rather than some Hollywood/fairy-tale monster. These conversations can be hard to have, but they protect kids in the long term.
Also, I think sometimes we do get earned about this through media like Mean Girls etc. But if we have pure innocent hearts, we make excuses. Also codependency makes excuses for people.
We learned the learnings we needed to learn through experiences.
Sometimes that's the only time and way we learn.
I kept going back to a friend who was not right for me, nor me for her.
It's taken me 20 years to finally break off entirely.
We learn when we learn, when the trauma of being lonely heals 💓
I have an Avoidant Attachment, and my wife on the other hand shows anxious attachment.
I can say from my experience that it's always a game of push and pull. She sometimes complains that I'm not responsive enough. Maybe accuse me of being emotionally distant and withholding. Me the avoidant stay relatively quiet but in my more fed-up moments think that she is too demanding and possibly needy.
It's interesting that you mentioned this matter about Elsa and Anna. And I get that Anxious and Avoidant people seems to find each other all the time. I also understand why they find It hard to leave one another. Well in this case, Elsa and Anna.
I think it's very important for both parties to face their greatest fear. That is for the anxious party to overcome the fear of being alone or separated from their partner. And the avoidant needs to let go of the fear of getting hurt when they get close to people and accept the fact that the intimacy and closeness comes with a cost, but it can be a reasonable one, to get love and affection in return. You have to learn to protect yourself better and defend yourself against getting hurt again.
Well said.
I sometimes feel like I'm both and I don't know anymore. I relate to both Elsa and Anna.
@@Karishma_Unspecified People are complex. It is possible to be many things at once.
@@OpDDay2001 Thank you for this!
I'm glad you were able to tell that to all of us. I hope things go well with you and your wife and that you both overcome your traumas! :)
"The Next Right Thing" was the song that got me through my Grandma's death. The moment I got the call that she was gone, that song instantly popped into my head... Amazing lyrics and extremely relatable!
When I watched Frozen 2 at the cinema I'd felt identify with Anna. At that moment I realized that I was emotionally attached to my family always with the fear in my mind "What would I do if one close member of my family dies? What would I do to keep my life going on if they are always here for me?" Seeing Anna standing up and doing what she has to do made feel I could do it
My mother passed a few weeks before Frozen 2 came out. So it holds a special place in my heart because of all the stuff with their mother in the movie, and Anna's song definitely made me sob hysterically because I was still in heavy grief. We didn't have a close relationship but I still loved her so much :( RIP momma, you are missed. ♥♥♥♥♥
"I have found, through painful experience, that the most important step a person can take is always the next one." - from 'The Way of Kings' by Brandon Sanderson. Those words really stuck with me ever since I read them.
YOoo!!! NEVER Expected to see a Sanderson reference in the comments!! I swear, he must have a quote for just about Anything!!!
I was told by my therapist that the inspiration for the song “the next right thing” comes from Kristen bells own therapist. Far as I was told, she was advised to just do the next right thing you can think of if you can’t think of what to do
really? thought it was inspired by the co-director asking the composers to put this in the movie
a bit of video evidence:
czcams.com/video/6szLJFdx02M/video.html
Can you guys do one of these of Kristoff? Don't know if many people see him as a hero but he's a character marked by sensibility and depth and also pretty heroic (in my opinion) so that's something I would love to see
They have done a video on Kristoff!! It’s so good!
@@sophiatorchinsky2444 I saw the video after commenting on this and it is really good. If anyone is interested this is the link: czcams.com/video/XaVm9YenVJQ/video.html
This was great, however I do wish that more attention was put on how Anna was essentially doing the next right thing before Frozen 2, and less about how naïve she was. Because of course she was naïve, she was essentially isolated and deprived of the life she was used to all in an instant. The movies also never acknowledge how Anna might feel about having her head messed with, regardless of the reasons. Honestly I'd even say without hesitation that Anna was more isolated than Elsa was. Because while Elsa was isolated, she had her parents who understood what was happening and she could find reprieve in them. Anna didn't have that. Her parents lied to her for basically her entire life and its not acknowledged how she might have felt about that because for both movies, it was about Anna chasing after Elsa. For both of these movies, it just sends this message that Anna has no true purpose outside of chasing after Elsa. And while that's because of their childhood and her abandonment issues, in my opinion it gives less credit to her as a standalone character. All of her accomplishments are about or in some way linked to Elsa. Anna didn't care about herself, her priority was always Elsa.
On the other hand, Elsa is the more standalone character because her accomplishments were for herself, whether or not she meant them to be for someone else they always benefitted her in some way. When she told Anna to leave, it benefitted her. When she told Anna to stay away she thought it benefitted Anna, everyone else and her. When she sent Anna away in Frozen 1 and 2 she meant it to be for Anna but both times it was for her benefit. When it came to Elsa, every action was always to benefit Elsa and not Anna.
When their parents died, it was Anna who had to bury them alone, and while I understand why that had to happen we never see her perspective of how that might have hurt her beyond that. We know all about Elsa's pain throughout her life, but we don't really hear about Anna's. In fact we get two songs about her pain and one of them hides it under her excitement of the gates opening. And "The Next Right Thing" is more about her grief of Elsa dying, which don't get me wrong is valid, however it's still linked to Elsa like everything else is instead of something that is truly her own. She grows from it, but its kinda unfair for the song to imply that only now she's doing the next right thing when she's had to do that before this movie, and just like in the first, it was because of Elsa's absence and not for herself. (Much respect to Kristen Bell though because it's an amazing song and I don't wanna anyone to think otherwise) "Do You Wanna Build a Snowman?" is great but it shows of Elsa's sadness more accurately than Anna's, which is disguised under a happy tune so well that most don't acknowledge her pain as much as Elsa's.
We know about Elsa's inner thoughts, but the most we get from Anna is "please don't shut me out or leave me behind" and her character is just reduced to her always chasing her sister and pretty much nothing else because her other actions are linked to Elsa. It also really upset me that the last image that Anna had to see of their parents (before she had to make a happier one with the statue) is their death. Elsa on the other hand got to have a happy memory of their parents in "Show Yourself". I don't think it's right that the one person who was lied to the most by her parents, had to bury them alone, and had to create her own happy memory of them just because she wasn't a part of nature like Elsa was. To be frank, the only reason she's even queen is because Elsa abdicated the throne to her. There's a song called "Just a Spare" that was cut from the first movie that Kristen Bell sang, and it kinda seems like though the song was abandoned, that's still essentially what Anna became in the end. Sure she's her own person now, but we don't get much insight of what happened to her that isn't linked to Elsa, which is a real shame in my opinion. I guess I'm just tired of hearing about naïve she was and want more discussion on how she might have felt about everything that happened to her outside of Elsa.
You guys should do a 'Psychology of a Hero' on Hiccup from 'How to Train Your Dragon.'
Oh god I just know that Next Right Thing is coming up. The song solidified my love for Anna’s character. She’s definitely one of my favourites. Welp I’ve got to go and get the tissues!
Edit: Ah! There you go it got me. I honestly didn’t know how much I related to Anna… It’s probably why I like her so much.
I love her so much! In Frozen 1 I thought she was too naive, not bad but not my favorite... In Frozen 2 she completely stole my heart. Especially with _that_ song, and how brave she is in the face of incredible loss.
Ikr that song is so underrated
@@taiya001 It doesn’t bother me, it’s still a powerful song. It’s just what Anna thinks of when she’s at her absolute lowest. Given her circumstance, it’s okay for her to have some rather basic vocabulary.
Yea, that song kills me every time. Brings back way too much crap to my mind.
@@taiya001 “Ruined by poor writing”? That’s a little harsh. Just because Anna doesn’t use the most eloquent vocabulary doesn’t mean the song is ruined. Many people love it for its emotional impact, and how they can relate to Anna on a personal level. “Do the next right thing” is a great mantra for you when you’ve just experienced a devastating loss and you don’t know what to do next. You have a right to your own opinions, but I ask that you have a little more respect for what Kristen Bell and Kristen Anderson Lopez accomplished.
I would love to see a Tresure Plannet analysis
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I definitely would be interesting
Me too! I love that movie because it's not about romantic love but a father and son's relationship.
16:02 ''who ever wrote these lyrics has been there''
I've seen a video of people who wrote frozen songs and going through them. "Anderson-Lopez and Lopez drew inspiration from personal tragedy in the lives of two people that worked on Frozen and Frozen II; co-director Chris Buck lost a son, and Andrew Page, a central figure in the music production of both films, lost a daughter."
I just rewatched Frozen II recently. In the intervening time since it came out one of my closest friends passed away unexpectedly. “The Next Right Thing” hit WAY harder even though I’ve struggled with depression most of my life.
I’m doing a lot better than I was, and doing the next thing in front of me got me through it (though I probably didn’t do that in the healthiest way possible - tunnel visioning into work at the detriment to my health, but I’ve gotten better about setting boundaries now too).
I’m still in the “building my feelings about myself around other people” phase, but I’m taking steps to get better (and very glad to hear that y’all like BetterHelp since that’s what I’m going with - I have my first session this weekend).
While I love Elsa's two songs in Frozen 2, Anna's "The Next Right Thing" is a real tearjerker and cemented the film's position as my favorite Disney animated movie.
Anna has not only physical courage, as she demonstrates through both films, but moral courage. Despite believing that both her beloved sister and her best friend Olaf are dead, she goes on to finish what needs to be done despite the fact that destroying the dam will also destroy the home she repeatedly demonstrates she loves because it is only right to save the forest because of what her grandfather did.
An amazing character all around.
Well stated, although personally, Show Yourself is my favorite song in the film
Agreed! I really feel like Anna doesn't get enough love :)
@@TheRealPSKilla502 'Show Yourself' is my second favorite song from both films. What's particularly interesting about it is that the person she is really singing it to is herself, not Ahtahollen. It's a call to stop repressing who she really is and step into her true destiny as the fifth spirit.
I also liked 'Into the Unknown,' which was acknowledgement that far from being the homebody she believes herself and even pretends to be, she longs to be something other than queen of Arondale. Most people would glory in being the ruler of a country. Elsa is made of better stuff.
I absolutely love Anna's character. She is extremely relatable, both with positive and negative traits.
To be strong together, you need to learn to be strong on your own. I fell in love with my (future) wife decades ago, but we were friends for 9 years before getting married...and it's going on 21 years married now. We're not perfect, but we're pretty damn good together, flaws and all.
That’s awesome! Congrats!
I’m aroace and for the last year and a half I’ve been preaching to a choir the importance of friendship and how it’s imperative to the base of ANY healthy relationship (romantic, platonic familial) and it was very very validating hearing Johnathon agree with that
I loved "The Next Right Thing" as a song, but I always disliked the terminology "The next *right* thing". I know that when I'm anxious/depressed that I often fall into the problem of not knowing what to do next and "what if my next choice is the wrong choice". While the song is really about taking *a* next step, I feel like calling it "The next RIGHT thing" kind of holding the song back. Honestly, when you're in the place of not knowing what to do, sometimes the answer is "do something". But adding "right" makes it sound like "don't screw up" (even thought that's not what the song is actually about)
Anna's character arc really hit me, especially in the first movie while she was desperately trying to connect to her sister and was constantly pushed away. The "what did I do to you" argument was a literally word for word argument I'd had with my sister growing up. It wasn't until I was an adult that I realized it was never about me or our relationship and that she was pushing me away for reasons I couldn't see.
Ive been there. I get it
The next right thing.. i like. The next thing has got to help you. It has to be a breath, a shower, eating something. It cant be withdrawal or self harm or violence.
It is easy, in the pits, to turn against yourself and others. To become defensive because depression swaddles and smothers you. Its terrible because it becomes part of you, emulsifies into your personality, your work, your relationships.
But
You have a choice to help or to hurt yourself. You have the oppurtunity to heal the shattered bits of you in those baby steps you take.
Dragging yourself to the bathroom to wash your hands and face is progress
2am microwave meals are progress
Checking your emails is progress
Wearing clean clothes is progress
Every tiny action and little step you take to make it to the next moment is worth it.
I get what you mean. I've got bipolar which ends up causing very bad depressive episodes. While I can't think of what would be "the next right thing" I try to set myself at least 1 thing to do that day that I could do - I had times where that's just been getting out of bed, even if it takes several hours to do it. It's finding what works with you really
i see anxious attachment, i click... i mean when i see cinema therapy notification, i click.
Me too, I instantly drop everything for Cinema Therapy!
As someone with anxiety and depression, doing "the next right thing" has helped me on countless occasions!
"Do you want to build a snowman" always makes me cry - it's so sad, that she was just left completely alone, and didn't even know what she did to deserve that 😭 And same with "The next right thing" - I don't know how any human being can not cry over this song - it's so heartbreaking and inspiring at the same time 💔
I’ve gotta be honest I didn’t cry over the song, I’m just not a cryer. But I do admit this song is very touching, and powerful.
For me it's not "do the next right thing" but "what is possible right now?". Can't get out of bed to shower and get dressed? OK, what is possible right now? Can I get up? Awesome! Can I drink a glass of water? Perfect!
On some days it just is like that, I have to accept that I'm doing the best I can at any given moment. Having a mantra (be it "the next right thing" or mine) really helps with focusing on what is achievable right now.
"Love is an open door" has double meaning, for Hans it's an open door to power!
What's interesting about Hans mirroring Anna is that they've placed symmetry in all the shots of "Love's an Open Door"
It isn't until later, when he starts revealing himself for what he is... and he's doing it while staring at a reflection of HIMSELF. From what I read (and I think the SuperCarlin brothers did a video on it, too) is that Hans represents the "mirror" in the original story.
I'd really love a Psychology of a Villain piece on him, sometime.
He’d be a difficult villain to “therapize” because he’s honestly terribly written, you can’t make any real life sense of anything he does. The whole movie isn’t great writing, but Hans is just more proof that the movie ended up being rushed to the finish line.
@@jenniferhiemstra5228 The only unrealistic thing about Hans is that his motivations come out early (to fit into the movie runtime), while real life manipulators are usually playing the long game--at least as long as it takes to get what they want. Other than that, he makes perfect sense. He's born a prince, and feels entitled. But his older brothers will be inheriting the throne, so he goes out to "win" a princess to get the stuff he feels he deserves. People have manipulated their potential partners for lesser things than that.
@@sajoth To clarify, his motives make perfect sense. With how it actually plays out before us in terms of film writing, etc. is bad.
"Anna doesn't give up on Elsa." So Anna is the Naruto of Disney.
But not half as secretly OP, yet still being the UnDeRdOg
More like the Rick Astley. KnowwhatImean?
I hate how accurate this statement is
Ok this wasn't fair. Anna's song Do the next right thing speaks so loudly to me as I lost my husband 5 years ago when he was only 35 out of the blue. This song I so relate to and bawl everytime I hear it ya'll did great on this.
I’m so sorry.
Y'all are right about Kristen Bell being such a great onscreen cryer. Every time she cried on The Good Place, I was right there with her