Also the fact that hercules is actually son pf Zeus AND his wife Hera. Which goes against everything in his actual lore, where Hera is out for his blood because Zeus keeps jumping way too many fences.
Imagine you're fighting a dude about 6 times your size and he goes "Tiggity tussle, you ain't got no muscle" and you fall over, literally just skin and bones.
That’s still something I don’t understand about Greek Myth. All prophecies cannot be avoided. But if that is how it works, then how has Zeus not been usurped? He technically should have been usurped once Metis finished giving birth, but Metis bore a daughter, not a son. But logically, Metis is still pregnant so I don’t understand why Zeus hasn’t been overthrown if Metis was meant to bear a son, as per the fate of Uranus and Kronos.
@@thiswillagenicely9702I believe the prophecy was IF Metis has a son, not that she will, and I’ve never heard it as a curse from kronos but that might have just been the versions I heard
@@thiswillagenicely9702 The 4th generation of Greek Gods (at least not on the level of Titans or Olympians) weren't born yet before Christianity arrived. Also, didn't Zeus eat Metis before she could bear a son?
It's also said that after the gods fled the Egypt they disguised themselves as animals but was recognized by the locals and were worshiped creating the myth of the Egyptian Gods. In Greek headcanon that is.
fun fact Zeus didn't fight Typhon alone, he originally fought Typhon with the help of Cratus (Kratos) the god of power, strength and endurance (in some cases just the god of power, sometime he is depicted as the son of Styx and Zeus other times he is the son of pontus and Styx). in some cases pan didn't help Zeus but it was actually Cratus who helped Zeus. Cratus was Zeus right hand man and Zeus would often send Cratus to defeat his enemies and Cratus was also the protector of Olympus, meaning if you wanted to invade Olympus you had to get past Cratus and many gods feared Cratus power... I mean he was the God of Power. when Zeus finally buried typhon under a mountain creating Mount Etna as well as the Island Sicily. yup Sicily was Originally a Greek island before it became a Roman territory, and was often considered the toughest island the Romans had to conquer, the Sicilians we're a headache to the Romans before Sicily was finally conquered.
@MrBrandonBlackwell The God Of war God's are actually terrifyingly powerful according to the lore. Cory Balrog said himself don't let the game play and stuff fool you.
@@dorkistantkd6233 that is just not true. superman is superman for a reason. he is as weak or as strong as the comic need him to be. he isn't comparable to god of war gods. he is literally made to be a SUPER MAN
Honestly, bro had it coming. Frankly, I support Typhon in this whole ordeal. If he wasn't hellbent on destroying the world. Edit: to confirm, I don't mean politically. Greek gods don't even deal with politics unless it's mortal politics. I mean his goals
I love the mental image of Ares and all the other Olympians just taking one look at Typhon and going "HAHA, NOPE!" and bouncing over to Egypt to drink and party in the sun while Zues and Athena stay to throw hands 😂
It makes it better when you know had Ares stayed he and Zues would've bodied Typhon considering that Ares was able to defeat Zues and make him and the rest of the gods to stay away from earth
I’ve read these gods where based on African gods tbh and Greek men went to Africa to study go back home and switch ish up to suite them basically…what a twist
@@josegarcia6997 ares never defeated Zeus and never made him do anything. The greeks also did not believed that the gods stoped to go around the world, altrough they believed the gods did not reproduce with mortals anymore (because that was the will of Zeus as stated by Hesiod fragments). Ares could not defeat Zeus in any myth, mythology or in a ancient greek mind.
I feel like not enough urban fantasy stories based on Greek myths take advantage of Typhon, the dude is final boss material and yet he's shafted by Hades (which makes no sense), Kronos, or some other deity. Even Percy Jackson only has Typhon as a side-quest.
Yah, I feel like most fiction based on Greek myths ignore Typhon (and even Kronos tbh) in favour of making Hades, Hera, or Ares the villain... all of which are pretty unfairly over-demonized imo.
What are you on about. In Percy Jackson, Typhon is the reason none of the gods are there to defend Olympus from Kronos and his army: every single one of them (except Hades because he's an edge lord) are fighting him, and they were *losing* before Poseidon arrived. He's defeated off screen because he's too dangerous for the POV character to get close
@Layton Jr You're right, he's worse than a side-quest. He's a background villain. Gaea is a primordial goddess and she still gets attacked and beaten by the main characters.
I don't mind that they changed they way Zeus lost. I do mind Disney making Zeus a loving, positive God. The old geezer will see onion ring and will boink it.
this isn't even true lol Corey Burton played Zeus in the games Rip Torn played Zeus in the movie only person who's voiced same character would be Kevin Sorbo who played Hercules in a tv show (unrelated to Disney) and god of war 3
I'm personally okay with not having Zeus potentially turned into some Gary-Stu teen who prat-falls into girls' tits like it's endearing, or Zeus turned into a big tiddie Olympian waifu
funny enough Cratus aka Kratos was a actual god and was a God even in other gods feared besides Zeus, Cratus was the God of Power and in some cases the God of Power, Strength and Endurance, and the God Zeus often sent to destroy his enemies as well as guard Olympus. he was the son of Styx and in some cases the son of Zeus or Pontus and was born before Zeus and Hera had children. and Cratus helped Zeus beat Typhon.
Other "fun" fact: mount Etna is a volcano close to Catania in Sicily, Italy. It still is sort of "sacred" to this day (although more in a folkloristic way then religious).
First they throw him off a mountain to his death, and now they place the ancient horror with the power to completely overthrow Olympus and destroy the entire world literally under his house. Poor Hephaestus can't catch a damn break.
I'd have to mention that this is not the only version of the story, and that there were many other versions written MUCH earlier than this one. The earliest mention of Typhon is in the Illiad, being merely a reference saying how Zeus was striking the ground around a defeated Typhon, not talking about their battle. The Theogony does the first tale of their battle, telling about a clash of power that could be felt all across the heavens, the sea, the earth, the underworld and even in Tartarus (and that's something, considering the space that separates Earth from Tartarus is stated infinite in myth), but ultimately ends with Zeus literally one-tapping Typhon with his thunderbolt. Epimenides also does a tale of Zeus one-shooting Typhon, but instead of being an epic battle, it was with Typhon sneaking into Olympus while Zeus was asleep. Pindar is the first to do the tale of all the gods turning themselves into animals and flying to Egypt, but still Zeus one-shots Typhon with his thunderbolt. Nicander would do the same tale, but adding Athena as the one goddess that didn't fly away (and Zeus one-shots Typhon). Aeschylus would show how Typhon "withstood all the gods", but is still erased out of existence by Zeus' thunderbolt (the thunderbolt is a cheat code at this point, given how Hesiod states even Chaos, the infinite abyss, can be affected by it in his version). Pherecydes and Apollonius tell tales of a multi-stage battle where Typhon is not automatically one-shoted by Zeus's thunderbolt, but is wound enough to try to escape to multiple areas, destroying everything in the way, until his ultimate defeat. The mentioned versions happen between the 7th century B.C, to the early A.D, and the version of the video is of Apollodorus' bibliotheca (Pseudo-Apollodorus, since the attribution is considered false), which, while the book is meant to have been written around the 1st B.C given the living dates of the author/s, the first mention of it was by Photius in the 9th century A.D, so it is to argue if the Greeks of the time even heard about this version of the story (another similar version is in the Dionysiaca, which is of late 4th to early 5th century A.D) (The edit was to fix a word "writen" to written)
For some reason, I feel like Typhon doesn’t fit into Greek Mythology. It feels like he’s a different “style.” And while that could be due to the person who made up the story, the fact he tried to destroy the Greek gods but lost to their king makes me think that he was based off of a deity from another religion that was competing with the Greek one.
Could be an attempt at Christian influence. They did something similar to Norse Mythology, to the point where no one can be 100% sure if some of the most famous stories were actual stories or an attempt at Christian takeover.
@@azakranos8100 We have evidance of Typhon from before Christianity existed or at least before it came to Greece (Cant remember), which means it probably wasn't them (for once)
Typhon fits in greek mythology. Cronos comes from earth to defeat the Sky and assumes the Sky. Zeus comes from earth to defeat Cronos and assumes the Sky. Then Earth sends her own son, but Zeus defeats him, thus he his able to keep his kingdom, this is why he is the best ruler (according to greeks) But the story was taken from the east too. The version in this video is heavily influenced by a hitite myth where the dragon battles the thunder gods, i cant remember now the exactly name. Either way, Typhon is a greek monster, not a rival god from other mythology, but he represents the chaotic dragon that you can find in any mythology.
@@azakranos8100 just no. The greeks were writing a thousand years before christianity appears. Typhon appears in many different books, epics and poems. The christians did not create Typhon, it was the contrary, Typhon and other similar dragons like Tiamat, that influenced Satan from Revelations (a dragon with multiple heads). The christians were influenced by the Typhon myth, not the way around. Also, the norse were influenced by christians because the norse did not writte anything before Christianity, only a few words here and there. The first norse epics were written by christians. This did not happens with the greeks or other ancients people that had writing.
I always love the kind of storytelling of a sealed god or something being the cause of certain natural phenomenon like tornado’s,volcano’s,etc. It’s somewhat thought provoking.
For me, it’s actually the second, it was used once in Justice League Unlimited by the Question to lex Luthor in relation to the plans he had being on a catastrophic scale Looked up the word and the google/dictionary description you see first just read “big” and nothing else and it took the sails outta me Not only did it become my favorite word I actually use enough for at least one friend to take note of it and also memorize it We’re probably the few people on earth who even use or know of it left 💀
There are many translations on Zeus’s battle with typhon. The most known one is where he was defeated but another one tells Zeus’s destroyed typhon without that much of a struggle.
True, it would have been better if he mentioned which version of the myths he is talking about, because in Theogony Zeus basically one-hits Typhoon. On the other hand, Homer says the first battle was a tie and Zeus won the second one, but with a great struggle.
@@syc254animation2 no cause typhon directly attacked Olympus and the throne sits in the skis, posiden stays in the sea and hades stays in the underworld. This was what they agreed on in Greek mythology.
I always thought it was weird that the Hercules movie wasn’t called Heracles, since Hercules is the Roman version of that character. Heracles, being the Greek variant.
My guess? Either the people making it were misinformed or simply thought it sounded better; Hercules rolls off the tongue better, can be shortened down to the nickname "Herc" and allows us to make the joke "Honey you mean HUNKules". So yeah it's inaccurate, but ultimately a pretty good deal.
I swear to god we need a game that is perfectly story-driven by a greek mythology stories. I don't mean the complete overhaul or reinterpratation. Just a game about gods and heroes. You got any ideas? I thought of the game set in the times when gods were trying to overthrow the titans
Pan is interesting because he is quite possibly one of the oldest and most powerful beings in all of Hellenic myth, but he doesn’t really come up all that often. It’s easy to see how he is a big inspiration for characters such as Tom Bombadil, and other mighty magical beings who choose to live relatively simple lives, hidden away in the wilderness.
I wished they made Hera the villain instead of Hades. Like Hades is a pretty chilled god, he rarely gets into any conflicts and he’s devoted to doing his job, the only bad thing he’s done is kidnapping Persephone depending on the sources.
Zeus wasn't the only one to face Typhon though; the Titaness Selene fought him heads-on when he yeeted a cow at her as she made her way across the night-sky and the craters on the moon were said to be the result of the wounds inflicted on Selene in their battle. Pan and Hermes stole back Zeus's tendons and put them in again, which allowed him to somehow defeat Typhon even though he couldn't before, which...weird. Though there's likely several variations on this myth as there are with the others.
The god of war games are also based heavily off the actual myth itself. Although, Kratos only appeared rarely as the god of strength and it was instead Aries who goes on a rampage with the Titans. When Zeus tried to ceasefire, Aries demanded that the only way he would agree to stop fighting would be if the gods agree to never have anything to do with humans ever again, which Zeus agreed, ending the rule of the gods forever.
Hey now don't do my boy Posideon dirty like dat he tangled with Typhon before anyone and lost after a hard fight. Only for Cratus and Zeus to take an L. Also in some storied I belive Ares, Artemis, Apollo, and Athena fought against him an lost. Only for Pan and I believe Hermes to get Zeus his tendons back and help poison Typhon to weaken him enough for Zeus to take a win. But Posideon got his 1v1 first before any of the gods. Put some respect on the God of the Sea.
@@thedoomslayer5863 Oh I’m fair enough still, the fact that he was able to beat Zeus even once but was barley even of any significance in gow is interesting
@@noahsibahi-jackson8757 yeah it really is. You could even argue that win meant more because the others out of fear didn't even attempt to battle him. In another interesting sense with the new GOW taking place in Norse mythology is that I feel in the Nordic tradition and myth they would not run from such a battle even if their fear of death was almost certain. You have an entire thing surrounding that in the whole concept of Valhalla. To die valiant in battle to then be rewarded with entry into Odin's hall of Valhalla. Makes me wonder how a fight with typhon would have gone had he went up against the Norse gods
i actually remember this from an old book that was a parody of the greek legends "told" from hade's perspective, it was "hades tells all" there were i think, 3 books one about how the gods rose to where they were(including this) and how he met persephone, the 3rd was about the diffrent greek monsters, i need to find them agian because they were actually kind of good
Ah yes, the myths according to King Hades, Ruler of the Underworld (or KHROTU, as is monogrammed on his wallet). Those books were fun. Didnt Perseus get turned into cheese at one point?
@@SkippertheBart The books had Hades take the underworld job just to get away from his siblings. I can see that being actually canon in the myths. The only sibling I would even associate with is Hestia. Because Hestia is Bestia.
Fun fact all these gods including the norse gods are actually the fallen angels in the book of enoch it says the fallen angels took on many names and many forms which also helps understand how these gods were able to turn into animals odin turns into a crow and zues turns into a falcon and sometimes a swan
“Sinews.” That word is “sinews.” Basically his tendons! My bad for not clarifying that in the video.
Literally first thing I looked for in the comments
BRO JON SOLO???? FROM MY CHILDHOOD WHO DID STAR WARS VIDEOS??? WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW MAN😭
THEY SKINNED HIM?
@@joshuasatterwhite9520 He mostly does Messed Up Origins videos now
Which tendons?
The most unreal fact about Disney's Hercules is that Zeus is a loving, monogamous, father.
Also the fact that hercules is actually son pf Zeus AND his wife Hera.
Which goes against everything in his actual lore, where Hera is out for his blood because Zeus keeps jumping way too many fences.
And that they say Hercules the Roman way and every other god and person is the Greek way
Well, they got the loving part right. And the father part right. Just not in the same sentence, I reckon.
I think the most unreal fact is the call him Hercules not Heracles
Who's not a rapist lmao and doesn't rape and impregnate his own daughters
Imagine you're fighting a dude about 6 times your size and he goes "Tiggity tussle, you ain't got no muscle" and you fall over, literally just skin and bones.
@Aaron Harp Would he be able to stand?
@@Lenoh no
@@Lenoh tendons makes your limbs move, without that you’re paralyze
Higgity Hue, You ain’t got no sinew
@Aaron Harp pretty sure tendon is specialized muscle my guy
Zeus: "Glad that's over! Maybe now we can-"
"ZEUS! Your son has returned! I bring with me the destruction of Olympus!"
Zeus: ah shit, here we go again...
That’s still something I don’t understand about Greek Myth. All prophecies cannot be avoided. But if that is how it works, then how has Zeus not been usurped? He technically should have been usurped once Metis finished giving birth, but Metis bore a daughter, not a son. But logically, Metis is still pregnant so I don’t understand why Zeus hasn’t been overthrown if Metis was meant to bear a son, as per the fate of Uranus and Kronos.
@@thiswillagenicely9702 zeus is a king of the gods for a reason.
@@thiswillagenicely9702I believe the prophecy was IF Metis has a son, not that she will, and I’ve never heard it as a curse from kronos but that might have just been the versions I heard
@@thiswillagenicely9702 The 4th generation of Greek Gods (at least not on the level of Titans or Olympians) weren't born yet before Christianity arrived.
Also, didn't Zeus eat Metis before she could bear a son?
It's also said that after the gods fled the Egypt they disguised themselves as animals but was recognized by the locals and were worshiped creating the myth of the Egyptian Gods. In Greek headcanon that is.
Aww thats much less fun than imagining them going to hide out with the Egyptian gods oof lel
That’s cap bro 😂 Egyptian mythology predates Greeks history and all of Greece known knowledge originated from Egypt
@@rediculous_guyarchibald6141 What part of "Greek headcanon" don't you understand?
If you know that much than you know the ancient European scholars all went to Egypt, Africa to learn from them and adopted there Gods.
@@samsonaries7780 Well the Greek gods came from the Indo Europeans not the Egyptians.
fun fact Zeus didn't fight Typhon alone, he originally fought Typhon with the help of Cratus (Kratos) the god of power, strength and endurance (in some cases just the god of power, sometime he is depicted as the son of Styx and Zeus other times he is the son of pontus and Styx).
in some cases pan didn't help Zeus but it was actually Cratus who helped Zeus.
Cratus was Zeus right hand man and Zeus would often send Cratus to defeat his enemies and Cratus was also the protector of Olympus, meaning if you wanted to invade Olympus you had to get past Cratus and many gods feared Cratus power... I mean he was the God of Power.
when Zeus finally buried typhon under a mountain creating Mount Etna as well as the Island Sicily.
yup Sicily was Originally a Greek island before it became a Roman territory, and was often considered the toughest island the Romans had to conquer, the Sicilians we're a headache to the Romans before Sicily was finally conquered.
I mean. . . I guess thats why they say "never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line"
@@TahniZCat2at least they didn’t get involved in a land war in Asia, oh wait…
@@TahniZCat2 yup and my father was born a raised in Sicily before he met my mother here in Norway. (my mother is from Brooklyn NY).
@@mrbam4739 not only did you get it, but responded with another quote! "Inconceivable!"
@@TahniZCat2 You keep using that word - I don’t think it means what you think it means
Kratos: Personally... Personally.... i wouldn't allow that disrespect
Please. Those God of War Gods were supehuman level. Superman could defeat them.
@MrBrandonBlackwell The God Of war God's are actually terrifyingly powerful according to the lore. Cory Balrog said himself don't let the game play and stuff fool you.
@@BrandonTBlackwell the god of war gods would stomp super man
@@dorkistantkd6233 that is just not true. superman is superman for a reason. he is as weak or as strong as the comic need him to be. he isn't comparable to god of war gods. he is literally made to be a SUPER MAN
@@ardel-4964 still gets stomped by the gods as dc Zeus is weaker than god of war zues
Honestly, bro had it coming.
Frankly, I support Typhon in this whole ordeal. If he wasn't hellbent on destroying the world.
Edit: to confirm, I don't mean politically. Greek gods don't even deal with politics unless it's mortal politics. I mean his goals
lol
“I support Typhon in this whole ordeal”
Bro talking like this is real or politics 💀
He wasn’t trying to destroy the world, he was trying to destroy the Olympians.
@@Keeeeeeeeeeeeeee for greeks it is real
@@lotusofthestarsVery, very few modern Greeks still believe in the ancient myths.
I love the mental image of Ares and all the other Olympians just taking one look at Typhon and going "HAHA, NOPE!" and bouncing over to Egypt to drink and party in the sun while Zues and Athena stay to throw hands 😂
It makes it better when you know had Ares stayed he and Zues would've bodied Typhon considering that Ares was able to defeat Zues and make him and the rest of the gods to stay away from earth
Yeahhh, no. In fact, when they ran to Egypt, all of them decided to transform into animals to hide
I’ve read these gods where based on African gods tbh and Greek men went to Africa to study go back home and switch ish up to suite them basically…what a twist
@@josegarcia6997 ares never defeated Zeus and never made him do anything. The greeks also did not believed that the gods stoped to go around the world, altrough they believed the gods did not reproduce with mortals anymore (because that was the will of Zeus as stated by Hesiod fragments). Ares could not defeat Zeus in any myth, mythology or in a ancient greek mind.
@@sonofcronos7831what makes you say that?
Imagine being an Egyptian god in Africa and all of a sudden seeing a bunch of foreign Greek gods walking by the pyramids
I feel like not enough urban fantasy stories based on Greek myths take advantage of Typhon, the dude is final boss material and yet he's shafted by Hades (which makes no sense), Kronos, or some other deity.
Even Percy Jackson only has Typhon as a side-quest.
Yah, I feel like most fiction based on Greek myths ignore Typhon (and even Kronos tbh) in favour of making Hades, Hera, or Ares the villain... all of which are pretty unfairly over-demonized imo.
@@GeneralGrievousCIShades and Ares are even Good guys bruh
@@fersho450 well, unless you're Haephestus.
What are you on about. In Percy Jackson, Typhon is the reason none of the gods are there to defend Olympus from Kronos and his army: every single one of them (except Hades because he's an edge lord) are fighting him, and they were *losing* before Poseidon arrived. He's defeated off screen because he's too dangerous for the POV character to get close
@Layton Jr You're right, he's worse than a side-quest. He's a background villain. Gaea is a primordial goddess and she still gets attacked and beaten by the main characters.
Fun Fact: Typhon and Echidna shacked up and created most of the monsters in greek mythology, also Echidna was the original she-dragon or dragon-lady.
*Tiamat laughing in the corner*
@@Pokemaster-wg9gx Cry 🤡🤣
I don't mind that they changed they way Zeus lost. I do mind Disney making Zeus a loving, positive God. The old geezer will see onion ring and will boink it.
He would bang a chip? Isn’t that a bit too far?
And will get it pregnant as well 😂
@@GrimReaperTheDeathAnimatronic And then it gives birth to any variation of a snake-like creature
@@GrimReaperTheDeathAnimatronic he definitely will 😂🤣
@@born-environment-0002 Oh I see this happening
Fun fact the guy who played Seuss fun fact the guy who played Zeus in the Hercules movie was also the guy who played Zeus in God of war
"Ackchually" Corey Burton played Zeus in the tv show, not the movie
this isn't even true lol
Corey Burton played Zeus in the games
Rip Torn played Zeus in the movie
only person who's voiced same character would be Kevin Sorbo who played Hercules in a tv show (unrelated to Disney) and god of war 3
@@UnHappyGingah Also, Perseus in God of War 2 was the same guy who played Perseus in the old "Clash of the Titans".
Corey Burton did voice Zeus in Disney's Hercules TV show, along with the direct-to-video compilation "movie" Hercules: Zero to Hero.
@@nathanielvaughn6728 which just took select episodes from the TV show
Y’all forget that Percy Jackson actually woke him up back in 2007 for round 2
was looking for this comment lol, sup fellow demigod
I was also looking for this hello fellow half-bloods
Poseidon was the one who had to put THAT particular demon to bed
@@casper2694 it’s been a year but hellos fellow camp member, glad to see a harpy or a Minotaur hasn’t gotten you
@@NicoDiAngeloThePotterHead hail Greek brother
We need an anime for the Greek mythology era
Alas, i don't use Netflix. But good sauce, Angel 👍🏼
Olympus Guardians and God School available here in CZcams
Blood of Zeus was a good one
I'm personally okay with not having Zeus potentially turned into some Gary-Stu teen who prat-falls into girls' tits like it's endearing, or Zeus turned into a big tiddie Olympian waifu
Saint Seiya.....jk
Kratos: "you will not see the end of this day Zeus!" ⚔️
Ur kratos never existed in greek myths...
@yondayyon4131 it's a joke 🙄
It’s also said Athena had to force him into action after he refused and called him a coward.
I vividly remember a video about Typhon from OSP and how the gods saved Zeus by "restringing him like the world's horniest ukulele"😂
Knowing what a bastard Zeus truly is makes me appreciate any scenario where he actually is defeated
watching this now, can't help but remembering Atlanti 2's frost giant and Surtur and a clash it'd be Zeus vs those 2
"Hello I'm kratos"😅
funny enough Cratus aka Kratos was a actual god and was a God even in other gods feared besides Zeus, Cratus was the God of Power and in some cases the God of Power, Strength and Endurance, and the God Zeus often sent to destroy his enemies as well as guard Olympus.
he was the son of Styx and in some cases the son of Zeus or Pontus and was born before Zeus and Hera had children.
and Cratus helped Zeus beat Typhon.
@@Thunor93 cratos would get whiped by most greek gods wdym
@@ninjaking7256”cratos” yeah bud
As the mythology guy once said
.. "ITS HERACLES!'
I love Greek mythology lore especially the fights between gods and Titans
Typhon causing volcanic eruptions sounds like the inspiration for Typhlosion.
Fun fact: mount etna is also the location of Hefestus's forge in the myths.
Other "fun" fact: mount Etna is a volcano close to Catania in Sicily, Italy.
It still is sort of "sacred" to this day (although more in a folkloristic way then religious).
First they throw him off a mountain to his death, and now they place the ancient horror with the power to completely overthrow Olympus and destroy the entire world literally under his house. Poor Hephaestus can't catch a damn break.
@@TheActualRealDrPepper Fun Fact: Rip Torn who plays Zeus in this film, would be cast as Hephaestus in God of War 3.
I'd have to mention that this is not the only version of the story, and that there were many other versions written MUCH earlier than this one.
The earliest mention of Typhon is in the Illiad, being merely a reference saying how Zeus was striking the ground around a defeated Typhon, not talking about their battle.
The Theogony does the first tale of their battle, telling about a clash of power that could be felt all across the heavens, the sea, the earth, the underworld and even in Tartarus (and that's something, considering the space that separates Earth from Tartarus is stated infinite in myth), but ultimately ends with Zeus literally one-tapping Typhon with his thunderbolt.
Epimenides also does a tale of Zeus one-shooting Typhon, but instead of being an epic battle, it was with Typhon sneaking into Olympus while Zeus was asleep.
Pindar is the first to do the tale of all the gods turning themselves into animals and flying to Egypt, but still Zeus one-shots Typhon with his thunderbolt.
Nicander would do the same tale, but adding Athena as the one goddess that didn't fly away (and Zeus one-shots Typhon).
Aeschylus would show how Typhon "withstood all the gods", but is still erased out of existence by Zeus' thunderbolt (the thunderbolt is a cheat code at this point, given how Hesiod states even Chaos, the infinite abyss, can be affected by it in his version).
Pherecydes and Apollonius tell tales of a multi-stage battle where Typhon is not automatically one-shoted by Zeus's thunderbolt, but is wound enough to try to escape to multiple areas, destroying everything in the way, until his ultimate defeat.
The mentioned versions happen between the 7th century B.C, to the early A.D, and the version of the video is of Apollodorus' bibliotheca (Pseudo-Apollodorus, since the attribution is considered false), which, while the book is meant to have been written around the 1st B.C given the living dates of the author/s, the first mention of it was by Photius in the 9th century A.D, so it is to argue if the Greeks of the time even heard about this version of the story (another similar version is in the Dionysiaca, which is of late 4th to early 5th century A.D)
(The edit was to fix a word "writen" to written)
"and then along came Zeus, he hurled his thunderbolt"
As an Italian I can confirm that Etna is still causing minor inconveniences.
For some reason, I feel like Typhon doesn’t fit into Greek Mythology. It feels like he’s a different “style.”
And while that could be due to the person who made up the story, the fact he tried to destroy the Greek gods but lost to their king makes me think that he was based off of a deity from another religion that was competing with the Greek one.
Could be an attempt at Christian influence. They did something similar to Norse Mythology, to the point where no one can be 100% sure if some of the most famous stories were actual stories or an attempt at Christian takeover.
@@azakranos8100 We have evidance of Typhon from before Christianity existed or at least before it came to Greece (Cant remember), which means it probably wasn't them (for once)
@@consequenceandmorality9937 A nice change of pace. Thank you.
Typhon fits in greek mythology. Cronos comes from earth to defeat the Sky and assumes the Sky. Zeus comes from earth to defeat Cronos and assumes the Sky. Then Earth sends her own son, but Zeus defeats him, thus he his able to keep his kingdom, this is why he is the best ruler (according to greeks)
But the story was taken from the east too. The version in this video is heavily influenced by a hitite myth where the dragon battles the thunder gods, i cant remember now the exactly name. Either way, Typhon is a greek monster, not a rival god from other mythology, but he represents the chaotic dragon that you can find in any mythology.
@@azakranos8100 just no. The greeks were writing a thousand years before christianity appears. Typhon appears in many different books, epics and poems. The christians did not create Typhon, it was the contrary, Typhon and other similar dragons like Tiamat, that influenced Satan from Revelations (a dragon with multiple heads). The christians were influenced by the Typhon myth, not the way around.
Also, the norse were influenced by christians because the norse did not writte anything before Christianity, only a few words here and there. The first norse epics were written by christians. This did not happens with the greeks or other ancients people that had writing.
This opens so much for the possibilities of Egypt in GOW
"Than they grabbed his sinus and restrung him like the worlds horniest ukelele"
-overly sarcastic productions
So we not going to talk about the most epic crossover of all time between the Greek gods and the Egyptian gods
Casually busts out "brobdingnagian"
Epic lol
I always love the kind of storytelling of a sealed god or something being the cause of certain natural phenomenon like tornado’s,volcano’s,etc.
It’s somewhat thought provoking.
Fun Fact:Zeus's voice actor Rip Torn was married to Geraldine Paige who voiced Medusa in the Rescuers 20 years earlier.
Hermes and Pan restrung Zeus like the world’s horniest ukulele.
You have to appreciate the sentence: "This ACTUALLY happened... in Greek Myth.".
I think this is the first time I've seen (heard) someone actually use the word Bromdingnagian in a sentence.
For me, it’s actually the second, it was used once in Justice League Unlimited by the Question to lex Luthor in relation to the plans he had being on a catastrophic scale
Looked up the word and the google/dictionary description you see first just read “big” and nothing else and it took the sails outta me
Not only did it become my favorite word I actually use enough for at least one friend to take note of it and also memorize it
We’re probably the few people on earth who even use or know of it left 💀
Brobdingnagian is just a fun word. Also, I thank the Question every day for introducing that word to my vocabulary. It also made me learn lilliputian.
@@theradionicrevival8068 Us, and anyone who read Gulliver's Travels ;)
Bro just casually revealed the plot for God of war in Egypt, plot twist, Athena is actually alive that was really her in 4
There are many translations on Zeus’s battle with typhon. The most known one is where he was defeated but another one tells Zeus’s destroyed typhon without that much of a struggle.
True, it would have been better if he mentioned which version of the myths he is talking about, because in Theogony Zeus basically one-hits Typhoon. On the other hand, Homer says the first battle was a tie and Zeus won the second one, but with a great struggle.
I got to ask, did Poseidon & Hades not take part in the Typhoon fight because they aren't based in Olympus?
@@syc254animation2 no cause typhon directly attacked Olympus and the throne sits in the skis, posiden stays in the sea and hades stays in the underworld. This was what they agreed on in Greek mythology.
I always thought it was weird that the Hercules movie wasn’t called Heracles, since Hercules is the Roman version of that character. Heracles, being the Greek variant.
My guess? Either the people making it were misinformed or simply thought it sounded better; Hercules rolls off the tongue better, can be shortened down to the nickname "Herc" and allows us to make the joke "Honey you mean HUNKules". So yeah it's inaccurate, but ultimately a pretty good deal.
@@TheActualRealDrPepper I was just thinking that.
Guys, am I the only who absolutely loved the glow the gods had in that cartoon. Also, the fluid animation ❤
Funny thing
In Hercules,Zeus is showed as good husband and good father
And monogamous
He was in the TV series....voiced by Regis no joke
Which one, Typhon or Zeus?
Typhon
I swear to god we need a game that is perfectly story-driven by a greek mythology stories. I don't mean the complete overhaul or reinterpratation. Just a game about gods and heroes.
You got any ideas? I thought of the game set in the times when gods were trying to overthrow the titans
Pan is interesting because he is quite possibly one of the oldest and most powerful beings in all of Hellenic myth, but he doesn’t really come up all that often. It’s easy to see how he is a big inspiration for characters such as Tom Bombadil, and other mighty magical beings who choose to live relatively simple lives, hidden away in the wilderness.
I wished they made Hera the villain instead of Hades. Like Hades is a pretty chilled god, he rarely gets into any conflicts and he’s devoted to doing his job, the only bad thing he’s done is kidnapping Persephone depending on the sources.
What ironic in the entire Greek Myth Zeus is the bad guy while Hades is the good guy
Then Herculad came in, and things got really crazy
It’s interesting to see other people who are interested in Greek mythology!
Pan imo is the most underrated God. He ruled within nature deciding what was fit whether it pleased others or not.
Pan also was a pedophile and the reason for child sacrifice, that's done even today.
Yea, that’s probably one of the very few times Zeus was limp…
Zeus wasn't the only one to face Typhon though; the Titaness Selene fought him heads-on when he yeeted a cow at her as she made her way across the night-sky and the craters on the moon were said to be the result of the wounds inflicted on Selene in their battle. Pan and Hermes stole back Zeus's tendons and put them in again, which allowed him to somehow defeat Typhon even though he couldn't before, which...weird. Though there's likely several variations on this myth as there are with the others.
Zeus striking that Rock Lee pose
"As revenge for their treatment of the Titans"
"Hold on, this whole operation was your idea."
Don’t forget Ares actually held off Typhon when Zeus was healing
It was Pan and Hermes who retrieved Zeus' tendons
Typhon up and went "Nice tendons, dumbass, mine now" and stole Zeus' tendons
I love videos like this, I've always been interested in Greek and Egyptian mythology, even tough I believe in the old norse myself ^^
bruh imagine being called "The God Of war" and u just flee. (talking about aries btw)
Zeus got a Zin Kia boost
Hercules is my favourite childhood movie
He really ripped all his tendons out so he couldn’t do nothing, that’s tuff😂😭
The god of war games are also based heavily off the actual myth itself. Although, Kratos only appeared rarely as the god of strength and it was instead Aries who goes on a rampage with the Titans. When Zeus tried to ceasefire, Aries demanded that the only way he would agree to stop fighting would be if the gods agree to never have anything to do with humans ever again, which Zeus agreed, ending the rule of the gods forever.
This never happened, it's only a fanfiction that got popular.
Hey now don't do my boy Posideon dirty like dat he tangled with Typhon before anyone and lost after a hard fight. Only for Cratus and Zeus to take an L. Also in some storied I belive Ares, Artemis, Apollo, and Athena fought against him an lost. Only for Pan and I believe Hermes to get Zeus his tendons back and help poison Typhon to weaken him enough for Zeus to take a win. But Posideon got his 1v1 first before any of the gods. Put some respect on the God of the Sea.
Your usage of Brobdingnagian gave me a wordnerdgasm.
Typhon is Very Underrated in media
If Disney had ever done a sequel to Hercules, Typhon would have been an excellent villain.
Also I thought it was Hermes who rescued Zeus, not Pan.
The fact that Typhon was able to pretty much solo the Greek pantheon is extremely impressive, like kratos from god of war in a way
He didnr even "solo" them most ran out of fear. They never even attempted battle. Only zues in all stories stayed.
@@thedoomslayer5863 Oh I’m fair enough still, the fact that he was able to beat Zeus even once but was barley even of any significance in gow is interesting
@@noahsibahi-jackson8757 yeah it really is. You could even argue that win meant more because the others out of fear didn't even attempt to battle him.
In another interesting sense with the new GOW taking place in Norse mythology is that I feel in the Nordic tradition and myth they would not run from such a battle even if their fear of death was almost certain.
You have an entire thing surrounding that in the whole concept of Valhalla. To die valiant in battle to then be rewarded with entry into Odin's hall of Valhalla.
Makes me wonder how a fight with typhon would have gone had he went up against the Norse gods
Me with my Percy Jackson knowledge pullin up
I haven't seen Mr solo on my page in a hot minute and I'm so glad he's back
Still did better than his fight against Kratos
I didn,t know that.
The egyption Greek crossover is peak
"Never heard of again" until immortals fenyx rising
Oh, that Zeus. I was thinking of Zeus from No Holds Barred, and only Monster I could think of he lost to was Hulk Hogan. 😉😂🤣
I did know this! :D
Zeus got what was comin to him for once
The god Pan is a real one. Everyone else abandoned Zeus while this nigga stayed. Respect.
i actually remember this from an old book that was a parody of the greek legends "told" from hade's perspective, it was "hades tells all" there were i think, 3 books one about how the gods rose to where they were(including this) and how he met persephone, the 3rd was about the diffrent greek monsters, i need to find them agian because they were actually kind of good
I read those. I can fully believe that the Greek Myths are from Zeus' POV. He's like the godly version of Steven Seagal, SA and all.
Ah yes, the myths according to King Hades, Ruler of the Underworld (or KHROTU, as is monogrammed on his wallet). Those books were fun.
Didnt Perseus get turned into cheese at one point?
@@SkippertheBart The books had Hades take the underworld job just to get away from his siblings. I can see that being actually canon in the myths. The only sibling I would even associate with is Hestia. Because Hestia is Bestia.
And Ares, Ares fought too
The Greek Gods: Yo can we crash here for a bit?
The Egyptian Gods: 😑
One thing Hercules got right about most the mythology “AND THEN ALONG CAME ZEUS”
It was actually Zeus's tendons
do you know what a sinew is?
I believe he said that just not with the word you’d use
Is that what a sinew is?
@@JonSolo Sinews are muscle tendons
@@JonSolo I love your videos dude I've been watching since 2016
Fun fact all these gods including the norse gods are actually the fallen angels in the book of enoch it says the fallen angels took on many names and many forms which also helps understand how these gods were able to turn into animals odin turns into a crow and zues turns into a falcon and sometimes a swan
I did not realize Pan was that important. Thought he was just a random nature god
girl gets pregnant, Zeus: zippity bop I'm out
So the main god got beat by a Titan one on one? Huh
Not any titan
Typhon was stronger than all of them 1v1
Hes the father of all monsters for a reason.
Kratos: “ZEUS YOUR SON HAS RETURNED! AND I BRING THE DESTRUCTION OF OLYMPUS!!!”
I did know this, yes, thank you. It’s a great story and one of the few where you root for Zeus. Even though he, like always isn’t entirely blameless.
I'm not the type to dive deep into mythology, but I will say that hearing about these stories are interesting.
Typhon, the only man who makes Zeus look like the good guy
When you get told an awesome bed time story: “I can make a religion out of this.” 👀
Interesting I didn’t know the Greek Gods of Myth went to other lands besides Greece. Wonder if they had crossover episodes with other pantheons
Fascinating, I never knew that!
Ancient Greek people: “why dat mountain on fire and making loud noises”
Also Ancient Greek people:
“Must be Zeus making gods angry again🙄”
"never to be heard of again................................. occasionally makes disturbances..."
I've read/listened to several Greek stories and never heard this version before.
Interesting how most of the Greek gods fled to Egypt I never knew there were interactions between the two pantheons