Namaskar 1. What P V Vartak did (or tried) was a great attempt, indeed. Esepcially, when you realize that no other Mahabharata researcher out of 100+ who claimed a year for Mahabharata war, even bothered to make sense of Shveta, Shyama and Tivra grahas. 2. I have decisively shown that while 'Tivra=Pluto' is correct/acceptable/feasible, based on the position of Pluto near Krittika This is not the case for Shveta and Shayma 3. I have shown that Shveta refers to Saturn and Shayma refers to Jupiter based on additional descriptions related to their actions (Akramya) and position (near Chitra for Shveta and near Jyestha for Shyama). Warm regards Nilesh Oak
Respected Nilesh Oak ji, I pay my regards and blessings for your तप,स्वाध्याय, भक्ति अौर लग्न ! I want to know which planet is महापात ? it's mentioned उद्योग पर्व 143 ; 10 . नूनं महद्भयं(महापात) कृष्ण कुरुणां समुपस्थितम्। !विशेषेण हि वाष्णेय चित्रां पीडयते ग्रहः !!10!! There isa conversation between Karan Krishna । karan अपशकुन की बात कर रहा है ; because of planetary position .श्री कृष्ण निश्चय ही कोरवों पर महान् भय उत्पन्न हुअा है ! विशेषतः महापात नामक ग्रह चित्रा को पीडा दे रहा है ! जो राजाअों के विनाश का सूचक है !
Namaskar One of the commentators of the Mahabharata text refers to this planet (Mahapat). Original Mahabharata does not refer to Mahapata. It is not clear which planet the commentator had in mind. Hope this helps.
निलेशजी, कल कृष्ण जन्मास्टमी है श्रीकृष्ण के जन्म समय के बारे में भी वीडियो अपलोड कीजिए ना । आपने कहा था कि कृष्ण जन्म 5626BCE में हुआ था , क्या श्रीकृष्णजी की जन्म कुंडली 5626BCE को support करती है ?
Namaskar I have researched Krishna's life for a long time and have made periodic refinements based on available and testable evidence. Based on currently available and testable evidence, Krishna was born in 5633 BCE and left his body in 5525 BCE.
Very likely I am shadowbanned or whatever its equivalent in the CZcams world. I also see some of videos simply stop showing additional view count once they reach 10000 views, etc.
@@NileshOak the fact that they want to silence you means you are on the right track. I have seen a doctor who was being silenced on CZcams and he created his own website and newsletters to be emailed directly to his viewers drberg. U can try the same startegy.
Namaskar & Thank you, Dr. @Nilesh Oak for referring to my question and posting your views in this video. I have a query on the methodology applied to ascertain 5561 BCE. See presentation around 17:30. The method appears to be similar to the one applied by Dr. Vartak, as explained in his book. While he assessed, he relates making use of the help of a computer literate person to arrive at his year. In his assessment he appears to have not incorporated correction to include the effect of precession on the true position of these two planets. As he calculated while going into his past, the ayanamsha correction would be positive. Consequently, the Mahabharata position of these planets would have been achieved sooner. If one uses modern ayanamsha calculator, his year amounts to about 13 days equivalent of overestimation. Best regards
Namaskar 1. The similarity is with respect to 10 descriptions of Saturn and Jupiter and identifying constraints on their positions via Tarkashatra and TantraYukti. 2. Otherwise, my interpretations are distinctly different than those employed by Dr. P. V. Vartak. They are explained in my book. 3. I have employed astronomy simulations that are dynamic for Ayanamsha corrections and dynamic visual astronomy to validate astronomy descriptions of the Mahabharata text. 4. 16 October-2 November 5561 BCE is indeed the 18-day period of the Mahabharata War Hope this helps.
Thank you Dr. @@NileshOak for a crisp reply. I hope you are aware of the implications of point #3 of your reply. This point puts a question mark on the overall reliability of the astronomy simulator used for arriving at the year of the MB war -- 5561 BCE. Regards
Namaskar, Dr. @@NileshOak I never said so. These are your thoughts. My comment was limited to the perceived doubtful reliability of the astronomy simulator. This question can be answered by the OEM of the simulator only. Thank you.
How do we know that these were not two different issues? The storytellers used accurate findings from astronomy to ground their stories into a historical context. Writers of historical novels often use factual information as a background to their stories. Jane Austen kept calendars from many years prior so that not one date is out of place in the lives of her characters. This was no small feat in a pre-internet era. Using astronomy cannot prove that any of the events in either the Ramayana or the Mahabharata actually took place. It only proves that whoever wrote them was well versed in astronomy.
@@NileshOak Let us both enjoy the Leela, Sir. Ultimately, all is Silence. I remain, as always, a great admirer of yours. You have said and are saying things no one else has done. ❤️ 🙏🏼
Whether the actual event of war happened on that date or not can be confirmed only by using astrological yogas/mediniiy jyotish i guess...and that can cnfrm whether mahabharat is an itiihaas or a mahaakaavya.
@@omkarbhagwat6541 Namaskar I am curious to know how and in what way astrological yogas/Jyotish can confirm if Mahabharata is Itihasa or Mahakavya? Appreciate your help.
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The Sloka from Shalya Parv is so accurate in the astronomical description. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Wow ❤
Great Work Nilesh Ji !
Thanks
Thank you! 🙏🙏
Hello Sir, I have a query.
Dr P. V. Vartak has described Uranus, Neptune & Pluto as Shveta, Shyama & Teevra. What is your take on that?
Namaskar
1. What P V Vartak did (or tried) was a great attempt, indeed. Esepcially, when you realize that no other Mahabharata researcher out of 100+ who claimed a year for Mahabharata war, even bothered to make sense of Shveta, Shyama and Tivra grahas.
2. I have decisively shown that while 'Tivra=Pluto' is correct/acceptable/feasible, based on the position of Pluto near Krittika
This is not the case for Shveta and Shayma
3. I have shown that Shveta refers to Saturn and Shayma refers to Jupiter based on additional descriptions related to their actions (Akramya) and position (near Chitra for Shveta and near Jyestha for Shyama).
Warm regards
Nilesh Oak
Which software you are using
Voyager 4.5 by Carinasoft
Nilesh ji, any plans to have your books 📚 translated in Hindi to reach more folks who have Shraddha .. 🙏
Namaskar
Yes. Translations in multiple languages are in works.
Bengali is there ?
Assamese is here...
Respected Nilesh Oak ji, I pay my regards and blessings for your तप,स्वाध्याय, भक्ति अौर लग्न !
I want to know which planet is महापात ? it's mentioned उद्योग पर्व 143 ; 10 . नूनं महद्भयं(महापात) कृष्ण कुरुणां समुपस्थितम्। !विशेषेण हि वाष्णेय चित्रां पीडयते ग्रहः !!10!! There isa conversation between Karan Krishna । karan अपशकुन की बात कर रहा है ; because of planetary position .श्री कृष्ण निश्चय ही कोरवों पर महान् भय उत्पन्न हुअा है ! विशेषतः महापात नामक ग्रह चित्रा को पीडा दे रहा है ! जो राजाअों के विनाश का सूचक है !
Namaskar
One of the commentators of the Mahabharata text refers to this planet (Mahapat). Original Mahabharata does not refer to Mahapata.
It is not clear which planet the commentator had in mind.
Hope this helps.
Thank you very much ! I am really overwhelmed that you read comments and answer dedicatedly. @@NileshOak
@@pratibhamalhotra8919 🙏🙏
Hope ISRO sees this video, they will send a rocket to these
😂
Is there an English movie of Mahabarat?
निलेशजी, कल कृष्ण जन्मास्टमी है श्रीकृष्ण के जन्म समय के बारे में भी वीडियो अपलोड कीजिए ना । आपने कहा था कि कृष्ण जन्म 5626BCE में हुआ था , क्या श्रीकृष्णजी की जन्म कुंडली 5626BCE को support करती है ?
Namaskar
I have researched Krishna's life for a long time and have made periodic refinements based on available and testable evidence.
Based on currently available and testable evidence, Krishna was born in 5633 BCE and left his body in 5525 BCE.
@@NileshOak
So please make video about that date 5633 today (as today is a Krishna Janmashtami)
Namaskar
Posted. Do check.
Though I have subscribed to this channel I never get its alerts or in suggested videos. I get Dhruv Rathe the bogus persons videos being suggested.
Very likely I am shadowbanned or whatever its equivalent in the CZcams world.
I also see some of videos simply stop showing additional view count once they reach 10000 views, etc.
@@NileshOak the fact that they want to silence you means you are on the right track. I have seen a doctor who was being silenced on CZcams and he created his own website and newsletters to be emailed directly to his viewers drberg. U can try the same startegy.
Namaskar &
Thank you, Dr. @Nilesh Oak for referring to my question and posting your views in this video.
I have a query on the methodology applied to ascertain 5561 BCE. See presentation around 17:30. The method appears to be similar to the one applied by Dr. Vartak, as explained in his book.
While he assessed, he relates making use of the help of a computer literate person to arrive at his year. In his assessment he appears to have not incorporated correction to include the effect of precession on the true position of these two planets. As he calculated while going into his past, the ayanamsha correction would be positive. Consequently, the Mahabharata position of these planets would have been achieved sooner.
If one uses modern ayanamsha calculator, his year amounts to about 13 days equivalent of overestimation.
Best regards
Namaskar
1. The similarity is with respect to 10 descriptions of Saturn and Jupiter and identifying constraints on their positions via Tarkashatra and TantraYukti.
2. Otherwise, my interpretations are distinctly different than those employed by Dr. P. V. Vartak. They are explained in my book.
3. I have employed astronomy simulations that are dynamic for Ayanamsha corrections and dynamic visual astronomy to validate astronomy descriptions of the Mahabharata text.
4. 16 October-2 November 5561 BCE is indeed the 18-day period of the Mahabharata War
Hope this helps.
Thank you Dr. @@NileshOak for a crisp reply.
I hope you are aware of the implications of point #3 of your reply.
This point puts a question mark on the overall reliability of the astronomy simulator used for arriving at the year of the MB war -- 5561 BCE.
Regards
@@Atul.Kumar.Kuthiala
Namaskar
Please explain in what way #3 t puts the question mark on the overall correctness of 5561 BCE.
Thank you.
Namaskar, Dr. @@NileshOak
I never said so. These are your thoughts.
My comment was limited to the perceived doubtful reliability of the astronomy simulator. This question can be answered by the OEM of the simulator only.
Thank you.
@@Atul.Kumar.Kuthiala
Namaskar
1. In that case, I misunderstood what you were trying to say about #3. My apologies.
2. What is 'OEM of the simulator'?
How do we know that these were not two different issues? The storytellers used accurate findings from astronomy to ground their stories into a historical context. Writers of historical novels often use factual information as a background to their stories. Jane Austen kept calendars from many years prior so that not one date is out of place in the lives of her characters. This was no small feat in a pre-internet era. Using astronomy cannot prove that any of the events in either the Ramayana or the Mahabharata actually took place. It only proves that whoever wrote them was well versed in astronomy.
Go with the latter conclusion if that pleases you. Ultimately both Shraddha and Ashraddha are blind.
@@NileshOak Let us both enjoy the Leela, Sir. Ultimately, all is Silence. I remain, as always, a great admirer of yours. You have said and are saying things no one else has done. ❤️ 🙏🏼
@@extemporaneous4545
Leela, indeed!
Whether the actual event of war happened on that date or not can be confirmed only by using astrological yogas/mediniiy jyotish i guess...and that can cnfrm whether mahabharat is an itiihaas or a mahaakaavya.
@@omkarbhagwat6541
Namaskar
I am curious to know how and in what way astrological yogas/Jyotish can confirm if Mahabharata is Itihasa or Mahakavya?
Appreciate your help.
Fake
Thanks
Thank you! 🙏🙏