HOTTEST RC JET - Eurofighter 90mm v3 by Freewing - Review & Setup
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- Our Freewing Eurofighter RC plane finally came in from RC-Castle.com, and it's gorgeous. The full setup guide is at the end of the vid and covers almost everything you'll want to know. If you want the most out of this model, you'll need to use an AR10360T or an AR8360T:
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0:00 Introduction
2:23 Takeoff w/ SMC 5300 LiHV 75c
3:52 Power Off Stall Testing & High Alpha Testing
5:45 Touch & Goes
7:30 Landing & Post Flight Thoughts
9:06 Preflight
9:55 Takeoff w/ SMC 4400 LiHV 75c
12:00 High Alpha Pass
12:50 Touch & Goes
13:45 Landing
14:10 Takeoff w/ SMC 6200 LiHV 75c
15:20 High Alpha Drone Chase
17:30 Touch & Goes
18:00 Landing & Preflight
19:12 SMC 4500 LiPo 40c
20:35 High Alpha Passes
22:27 Landing & Initial Review
23:05 TwoBros Score
24:55 Unacceptable Gear Delays
26:11 Flight Characteristics Overview
28:12 Separating the Elevons
29:27 Wing & Tail Type, Stabilized Canards
30:34 Rates, Expo
31:17 Canard Mixing
33:34 Nosewheel Mixing, Forward Programming
34:40 Canard & Elevon Gyro Setup - Zábava
Brilliant coverage on this jet I will for sure get this jet sometime this year
I look forward to your speed test and from what I’ve seen so far this will be a fast flyer when pushed ..
Keep your videos coming the best RC EDF channel out there..
Enjoy and happy flying brother
Awesome Jet. Beautifully flown. Thanks for sharing with us .
Great flying and review as always, Jon, Will and crew! This video had the works. LOS, FPV capture, voltage overlay, and real time GPS. I failed to mention radio programming tips, which should save the average guy weeks of trial and error. You guys have definitely raised the bar. I look forward to seeing future flights with this jet.
Happy to help! It'll be shown again soon after the minor mods we performed on it.
This is the best video yet. You guys absolutely nailed it. I can't wait to set my own up.
Thanks so much!
Great flying demonstration, love How it just settles in to those nose up landings…beautiful model!
Been waiting weeks for this video! Loved the drone view mixed with the ground view too❤
More to come!
Great Show. Your flying is exceptional! Beauty Mate.
Thank you! Cheers!
Great review and flying!
Cheers
I remember the first foam jets coming out. My local hobby store couldnt see them flying. First foamy was an f16. Talking over 25 years ago. Wow im getting old. Hope my eyesight holds out. Good job these planes are getting bigger lol
As usual, Great job!
Amazing work 👍👍
Looks like this is living up to the hype. Great vid. The telemetry and drone shots added nice production value.
Thanks man! We're always looking to improve video production quality, so anything we can add to give you more info is what we're gonna do.
Love this jet, going to order one soon, and love your videos.
I love the ace combat music in your jet vids!😀
Wow wow wow! Thank you Jon, I absolutely enjoyed this one! I’m going to order one for sure!! Awesome job
Pick it up from RC Castle if you can! Ray is super cool and will go out of his way to make sure you're happy.
@@TwoBrosRC yea the thing is that the shipping to my country takes about 2 months unfortunately :(
@@nirlachman007 Oh that sucks!
@@TwoBrosRC yup, absolutely :( I’ll have to
Wait for MotionRC US I guess
Verry good camera guy man
i really enjoy and learn from watching your channel
Happy to hear that!
This is the promo video this jet has been waiting for. Been semi underwhelmed until now
Thank you! We tried to make it interesting. This is really only the tip of what's coming - we performed a couple of mods by adding D-85MG servos in the elevons and just enough tail weight to balance at 45mm behind the marks. The next flight should really showcase how well it can perform, and we'll pit it against the Rafale 80mm to see if it holds up to it.
I love the Ace Combat 3 Soundtrack in background!!
You convinced me Jon! I ordered the 8S version and can’t wait to see what I can do with it!!! So far for delta wings I own the Mirage 2000 from Freewing and it’s my favorite plane that doesn’t have thrust vectoring.
We definitely recommend only the 6 cell version. The thrust to weight ratio and wing loading are best on that setup - but here's hoping you'll enjoy the version you ordered!
Fantastic review Jon. This model looks like a winner. I wish it were any color but light gray, my old eyes just can't see models this color in the sky. Maybe a Red Star version will come soon like my awesome big Mig 29. I'm still loving my SMC batteries.
Can always repaint!
Great review as always !. would like to see the transmitter movements as previous videos
That probably isn't going to happen, our pilot would prefer not to wear a harness again.
Stable flying
As the Euro French would say, tres tres tres tres jolie!
Wow... ! Just wow. Id love to be able to fly one of these. May have to buy one just for the man cave
Pick one up from RC Castle when they're back in stock!
@@TwoBrosRC dont think there avaliable in the Uk yet
Great review guys. Nice flying Jon. So, when's the Munster version going to fly by? I wonder if MRC will do a 64mm like the Rafale? :). AirHammer out!!
Hi! Nice to see you flying the Eurofighter! May I ask whether the thrust reverse will operate with Futaba Rx and Tx?
It should work on any transmitter, you just plug the extra signal lead coming off the throttle into your preferred port and work with that channel.
You had me at "rafale but almost better." I was telling myself to not do the preorder just incase there is some issues that would need fixed in later shipments, but im going for it
Pick it up from RC Castle - it's a little more shipping but Raymond is awesome and deserves your support!
We'll be comparing the Rafale 80 to the Euro 90 very soon, including with some mods to the Eurofighter which will make it perform closer to the Rafale.
Great reviews as always… I have the 8s version and was wondering is it better to use the air brake for landings or is it a bad idea based on the weight of the jet being 8s it is pretty heavy to me. I’ve noticed it drops out the sky fast the moment you start pulling back on the throttle
The air brake has very little effect at this scale. It acts more like a second vertical stabilizer. Feel free to use it, just add a tiny bit of extra power when you do so.
Well done my bro 🥳👍🏻 that was a really good video…you should be the tester for Freewing (like really….)
Even the video quality and framing wasn’t perfect, it’s okay 😅
I will post my maiden video Friday at 4:00 pm UTC 😇 I hope you’ll be there 🤩
Definitely, can't wait to see what you've got!
@@TwoBrosRC 🥳🥳🥳🙏🏻
Nice review as always. How would you say it compares to the 90mm F22 with an FMS Motor? The ARF version of the F22 seems like a much better deal considering how many more servos you get and dedicated flaps...
The F-22 is more agile than the Eurofighter with our setup, but that may change with the mods we did to the EF last night. The F-22 is a solid choice but doesn't look anywhere near as good as the Eurofighter. The scale detail on this jet is next-level good.
Nice
This jet looks lovely. Couldn't decide between this and the rafale so I've got to get both. Gonna run out of storage room soon. These planes are getting bigger and bigger lol. Now if I can only find the f16.
Hi Jon ,great video , amazing flying.
Would love your input on the way this beautiful jet
flys out of the box ,set to the manual .
All we see is it flying after
your expert alterations
to your liking.
Just a thought.
thanks anyway.
Just bought one.
😎
We don't really do manual setups - if you're interested in that kind of info, there's other channels that specialize in that sort of thing.
Awesome video. Have you thought of putting a camera feed into the cockpit for the operator and for video
Nope, not on a delta jet like this.
One of my slight concerns I have about this jet is as mentioned the battery placement. I have flown the mirage on a 4000 and like it apart from the lack of reinforcements to the nose. This eurofighter is a 90mm flying on a 4000 or in your case a 4500(light bat) I was expecting it to be powered by a heavy 5000 or a light 6000
It'll fly at least four minutes if you use throttle modulation and don't peg it. You'll be fine!
Hi there, any chance you can demonstrate a "slow" Landing with this airplane ?
Quite a few of these landings were pretty slow - how slow are you looking for here?
Good looking jet! I’ve only bought one Delta wing- FMS Rafale, and I’m still trying to figure out it’s capabilities. Plus it’s fighting truck space and the same size batteries as the FMS Futura v3, Bae Hawk and big a-10. I felt Freewing should’ve stopped releasing new jets after the release of the F-22 80/90mm and the B-2. They outdid themselves on both.
Where have you mounted the RX? I've just bought the AR10360T for it
Timestamped at 30:12
Did you have any power issues on this? I just maidened mine and I was getting 68mph top speed. Zero vertical climb. I’ve tried new battery, recalibrating the esc 4 times. Any other tips?
No power issues with ours, though we don't really care about speed.
@@TwoBrosRC you do when you have to full throttle to hold it in a harrier.. it has zero climbing power
Did you buy the 8 cell version and fly it on 6 cells?
@@TwoBrosRCnah, I opened the belly, it has the 3668-1960kv in it. I thought the same thing at first, that’s why I checked it
We will definitely have to see a head to head of the Eurofighter and the Rafale. The Rafale will be hard to beat.
Undoubtedly, but I have it on good authority that the Eurofighter at a neutral CG is probably a better flying airframe. We'll pit them against each other!
@@TwoBrosRC I’ll believe it when I see it. If you give it the thumbs up I’ll definitely be getting one.
Hello I’ve got this airplane in 8s I followed your setup I connected the elevons the same way u showed us I connected both canards directly to the receiver spectrum AR1060T into channel 8&9 a/c Type Elevon B tail canards 1 rudder and the problem I’m having is safe and AS3x is not triggering both canards only one the right side is affected on both safe & AS3x also how do u turn off the role on the canards to only get pitch I want safe and as3x and to be able to turn it all off and fly no gyro please help and thanx for the video…
Hop on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord and ask for help in the #tech-and-setup channel. The issues you're experiencing are too complex for a CZcams reply.
Question: Are Canard jets only supposed the canards for pitch? I sse most guys set them up for roll too.
No pure delta jet we're aware of uses canards for anything but pitch. Roll interferes with airflow over the wing. It's not recommended.
@@TwoBrosRC Thanks, I've got a Fly Fans 70mm Gripen I'm planning on putting together soon. I want to set it up correctly.
Eurofighter 90mm v3 by Freewing and the FMS Rafale I seen both of yours videos. Which one do you like to fly. Which one does the high alpha the best.And which has the best quality?
You'll see soon, we've already shot the comparison vid. Should be going live within a month!
10:22, likin' it already, mwahaha!
Really fantastic video. Setup was a little fast for me and I've got the same equipment (IX-20, 10360T, 5280 Bluefire). Sent you a PM on RCGroups wherein I lamely beg you for your IX-20 model file. :) I hope you can send. To summarize the hardware changes - is this correct? 1. You're pulling the single wire from the wing molex connector in the wings and putting them into separate elevator channels, 2. You are taking the canards out of the mixing board and putting them in separate channels in the Rx as well. 3. You're using a Y-connector for the BlueFire with Throttle in CH1? Is that about it? REALLY appreciate this video!
All the setup info is in the vid - make sure you go over it and repeat chapters if needed. The Eurofighter setup file is located via drive.google.com/file/d/10_NZuqdI6KVu2WYX00zRYTyqXPoD39Gp/view?usp=share_link - but it's provided as-is as we don't have the time to troubleshoot and walk individual pilots through each unique model they're flying.
w00t !!!
Will a stabilzed receiver work with the white control board on the 90mm v3 eurofighter?
We were flying with a stabilized receiver, so yes - 100%. It's not a gyro so it won't have any issues.
@Two Brothers Radio Control only reason I asked, cause I saw that the control board if being used ,does the elevon mixing.
One day maybe next year got a lot to learn ....
I am going to be maidening mine tomorrow 6s version with a smc 5300mah HV.. Balanced mine at stock cg, but it sounds like you are stating it will be too nose heavy. How far back behind the stock cg with a smc 5300mah HV for a maiden would be safe. I know you are good on the sticks and comfortable with aft cg. Would appreciate any recommendations.
It's impossible to fly this plane tail heavy on any normal 6 cell battery. You should be absolutely fine with it.
@Two Brothers Radio Control thank you so much for all of your content. Your videos are why i am doing 90mm jets now. How you break it down for everyone to understand is amazing.ordered 2 of the 90mm viper set up for 90mm f22 1 from horizon(back ordered)& 1 from fms, so i had a spare motor & fan. Installed it on the 90mm euro fighter and maidened it sunday at 25mm behind stock cg and what a pleasant maiden it was. Keep up the great work that you do. It does not go unnoticed. I have now got at least 5 of my club members watching your you tube videos and they are thinking about larger jets. I can't say enough.THANKS AGAIN.
@@kawasakizx14jomamamoto57 Happy to help - it's great to hear your feedback. Thank you!
Hi Jon ,can this setup be done on NX10. Thx
You'd have to fly with fixed AS3X and no SAFE if you run this on a NX10 using our setup - but if you keep more of the original setup, you can run fewer channels and free up receiver channels for flight modes.
Hello can somebody pls say to me what is the diameter of this tail nozzle from the Eurofighter 90mm EDF and how long is its width?
Check the RC Groups Eurofighter thread, someone can tell you there.
Which do you prefer between the freeing eurofighter 90mm vs the fms rafale 90mm as far as a stable platform or are they about the same?
Rafale is 80mm - and they fly distinctly different. Eurofighter is more stable, Rafale is more agile. We're posting a comparison between the two jets in the near future which will go over this.
Do you think the 90mm viper set up like you put in the f22 90mm will work well in the eurofighter 90mm?
@@kawasakizx14jomamamoto57 the motor? The one that comes stock in the RF is perfectly fine.
I can't find the retract mod for eurofighter. Did you make a video?
The only mod we did was running the gear doors and gear to the receiver and sequencing them in the radio.
@@TwoBrosRC Thank you. And keep up the GREAT videos
Which do you prefer, this or the FMS Rafale?
We haven't decided just yet.
Can't afford it but I most certainly want it ha 😊
Save up, it's totally worth it.
@@TwoBrosRC my fixed wing skill is still needing work, fpv Quads, no issues at all, fixed wing, I'm short of skills yet, but I'll get one, 100%
What is the spring for that comes with the hardware?
It's a softer nose strut spring.
@@TwoBrosRC thank you very much. I was very confused about what that was for by the way you make excellent videos better than the companies that sell the Jets and planes.
Hey Jon,can you explain more about canard takeoff mix plz?,I have ix14 but I can’t put ele > ele ,I only able to set ele>aux2 and it doesn’t work as yours
Did you follow the part where we mentioned assigning the canards to the elevator channel?
@@TwoBrosRC actually not
I have jas 39, and I followed motionrc setup video for that part when I did setup
I just assigned but still ELE is not available in the right mixing list
You need to follow our setup guide exactly for it to work as we've described it. Running canards as elevators requires using the mixing box with the Eurofighter. The Gripen doesn't come with a mixing box, so you can't stabilize it using our technique.
@@TwoBrosRC did you use mixing box for your jas 39 gripen as well?
because I remember you had this mix
If not can you explain how did you do that?
@@shahram677 No, we ran the wiring directly to the receiver which everyone has to do for that jet.
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Awesome flight demonstration! 👍🏾
Thanks for the timestamps...Thumbs-up for that! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 "Brian Phillips" should learn how to be considerate with his viewers from you ...👍🏾 Have a great day! 👍🏾 Greetings from Douglas, Arizona 👍🏾🦠🌵😷🇵🇷
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Between the Freewing Typhoon, Freewing Gripen and FMS Rafale, how would you rank the canard deltas? (I assume there will be a comparison video coming at some point...😉)
Gripen ranks dead last. Eurofighter and Rafale both get high marks from us. A comparison between the two is coming!
@@TwoBrosRC that's what I figured. I have picked up the Rafale and am just waiting for the snow to disappear. I was wondering if I should pick up the Gripen or pre-order for the next shipment of Typhoons. Thanks!
Looking forward to the comparison video!
@@TwoBrosRC as far as grass handling goes, how would you rank them? As you might be aware, we are having some issues up here in Canada and only the grass field I fly at has been approved. The field with the Geotex runway I fly at may take a while to be approved for use again.
@@northernrcflyer Eurofighter probably handles grass better than Rafale, but they're both pretty similar we'd wager.
Thanks for all the info! Which of the two would you say is easier to fly and land: Eurofighter or Rafale? I will get both eventually, but only have money for now.
(And out of curiosity, how would the FW 90mm F-18 compare to these two?)
How gentle does she fly coming from a futura I run at 100% rates that flies very aggressively
And should I maiden it with or without canards
And your going to hate me I stripped one of the elevators on my futura in the up position making it uncontrollably roll but I was able to land it on its belly in some brush but it did rip off the wing but I might be able to fix it but one way or another I’m going to get another and post a video of it hovering because it’s awesome it does it without vectoring
Eurofighter is a delta wing, so even if the WIng CUbE lOaDINg is really high, it won't handle like it - meaning it'll actually be a bit more enjoyable to fly than Futura because it won't experience accelerated stalls anywhere near as easily. We say this having flown Eurofighter and Futura on the most tail heavy CG that we can get - 50mm behind the recommended marks with EF, and right over the main wheels with Futura.
Definitely won't get mad at ya for testing your limits. Show off your footage on Discord when you get a chance to film it!
Why did you go with 6s instead of the 8s?
6s is lighter, better maneuverability, with just a bit less vertical/top-end speed
What Kolbe said. 8s offers more low-end thrust potential but at a significant weight and 💵 cost, along with requiring 2x the batteries per flight.
Isn't the gear cycle time scale?
Not at all, not even remotely. Fighter jet gear cycles are measured in like three seconds, usually. It's rare that anything takes longer. Even if it does, that's a scale feature we could do without.
What would happen if a 1450kv motor was used instead? Faster or slower?
Slower. You wouldn't be pushing the amount of thrust you'd need on 6 cells. You'd have to upgrade to an 8 cell setup which comes with its own issues, like additional weight for one.
@@TwoBrosRC so you're saying that lower kv provides more torque less speed and that's why they would use a 1450 for a heavier jet? But then the higher kv would theatrically need longer runway to get airborne
@@TwoBrosRC most start their transition to edf with the 64 class and until recently I thought that they only used up to a 4s and a 3300 k motor, but I've found someone using a 2300kv ,6s on a 64mm and I think a 11 blade fan. Do you think it would go faster than the 4s?
@@michaelmickoberhaus8009 Motor Kv is only part of the equation. How big the motor is, how good your batteries are, etc also plays a factor.
@@TwoBrosRC I'm still trying to work it all out. I've given up on anything that has a 5 or 6 blade fan do that eliminates some. 70mm is the most affordable class for me and motor size seems to be same on kv is different depending on type of jet size and weight. Guess I was thinking if a jet comes stock with a 4s. Like 3000 kv why can't I make it faster with a 2300 using a 6s?
25:30 Yes this time wasting is not professional. If you have not 2 chanels in the radio left, i did a uP-Programm on Arduino. On the Table it works within 4 Seconds instead of >15s! Keep in mind, the Eurofighter Doors does not go to the maximum of PWM-Signal for open doors. I used 1600ms (vs 2200ms). Good luck.
So are these true jet engines or electric powered engines?
They're electric ducted fans.
💪💪💪👍👍👍😍
I'm a little confused about the battery size. Is the V3 a 8s or 6s?
It depends on which version you order.
@@TwoBrosRC I order the 8s version. Would you recommend the LIHV batteries.
@@randyfortish918 On this jet? Absolutely.
EPO V3 is heavier than EPS V2 by more than 200 grams.
Yes, but the jet definitely looks way better than it did before.
About 8 years of lipo development and power system improvements more than makes up for the extra 200 grams of foam.
@Kolbe Villa Apparently, it landed relatively faster than the previous version in the video. The structures of aerodynamics between V2 & V3 got obvious differences as well. V2 floats MUCH better!!
@Kolbe Villa Also, Freewing's EPS Su-35 w/ thrust vectoring was in the addictive FLOATING category LOL🤘🤙
@Kolbe Villa I meant V2 did NOT require "REVERSE THRUST" AT ALL for touch down
Fantastic video and review... Just painfully nose heavy with anything 5000 mAh and above it seems...
I just can't believe they completely failed on the battery bay design YET AGAIN! Another epic failure just like the Gripen. Especially on a delta where aft cg flexibility is the most beneficial. Such a shame. Even the OG EPS Eurofighter had a much better battery bay 🙄
This could've been their best release yet with a proper battery bay.
Thankfully a slight bit of weight in the tail gets the model to balance at 45mm back from the marks. If it's anything like Gripen, it'll wake up past 40mm.
@@TwoBrosRC I'd sell a plane before adding dead weight due to poor design... Just couldn't do it 🤕
There's no way to remove that giant bulkhead at the rear of the bay? I'll bet it's some type of nose gear support knowing our luck 🙄
@@fern6978 Its a gear support. 14g of tail weight with a 4400 pack gets the jet to balance at 45mm. We're shooting for the ballpark of 60mm back so we may add a couple of more weights. @Airguardian added like 130g to his Gripen to get it to fly right. Sometimes that's just how Freewing jets are. The FMS Rafale 80mm doesn't need any weight to balance neutrally though, one of many reasons why we love it.
Wait why $700? Motion still has it for $600
We got it from RC Castle so we'd have it first.
can you give it to me pls
Yeah, we're just going to send you a $700 model that we paid for out of pocket. That sounds like a thing we'd do.
You land the EF way to fast.
you can land this jet without thrust.
Greets from Austria
Landing it without thrust is a terrible idea.
@@TwoBrosRC i have the v1 and v2 both landig perfectly without trust.or is the v3 total different in construction?
I dont think so...
Now run it on 8s 😂
Probably won't, not a big fan of the weight it would add.
That's ridiculous on the landing gear time, seems like the synchronizer isn't working. What if you had to land fast you would have to belly land
That's working as intended by Freewing. It's terrible.
@@TwoBrosRC no kidding? That sucks got such an expensive aircraft. Wish it wasn't so much. I'm currently making my own Eurofighter. It'll be 4th time