The HK-3 is the most perfect design. The original PM series is an old model that has been made for a long time. The HK-3 has perfectly improved many shortcomings on the original style of the PM, so it is the most worth buying. I have nearly 15 years of experience in sales, and what I said is quite authoritative.
Just bought the Hawk-Matic HK3 manual and it is an absolute beast! Best machine I have ever used. I do 100mm and it does them perfect. It is a pleasure to use.
So you allow the Powermatic 3 to screw up and then end the video saying the advantage is with the hk3? Why don't you do a fair test my friend or just delete this video thank you.
The only thing the PM3 has going for it is the ability to be modified to allow for an external hopper. That's it. It's finicky and over priced for what it is.
The hawk-matic HK3+ undergone a change from the very first one to know prior it was identical to the Powermatic 3 now it has a feature so that you don't have to wait for compaction before the cigarette is created, the new one compacts after the previous cigarette is made. I am also of the belief it shows a small superiority over the pm3 now, however it still compacts a bit tighter than necessary on the lower level end the power supply should be 15 volts which is perfect how I use it! P.S. hoping to see their version of PM5 by the way if it means anything they said they were going to call me back on an issue and never did I have been told their customer service in plain English sucks.
Thank you, this video helped me decide which one to purchase because I didn't know which one I should get them being the 2 to choose from. The HK3 is much more affordable than the PM3 anyway.
The tobacco is not finely chopped. The powermatic3 has to remove the cigarette in two movements. One more detail. The Powematik3 does not work well with short tubes.
Just Getting into RYO using the PM3 and Good Stuff red. I notice frequent 'hopper' stops unless I either hand tear the tobacco before use, or run a batch thru the machine without tubes (to precondition the tobacco). Is there a good tobacco cutter I could use separately for this? Just to precondition the tobacco for perfect machine operation.
Which one can pack the tightest cigarette so it burns longer? I think you can adjust density/fill on both. And which one works best for King size tubes? I just got into MYO cigs, and bought the cheap powermatic mini before investing in one of the big boys. I’m very pleased with the mini overall, my only real complaint, other than the time commitment (which is to be expected) is that it’s difficult to really pack a cigarette tight. Before making the change I was an American Spirit smoker, and loved the smoke time & density of their cigs. I feel like the pm mini makes a smoke that’s closer to like a camel or Marlboro type smoke. Thanks for your time.
Hawkmatic kinda packs the kings pretty tight because its made for 100s so its gonna overfill every cig. I smoke silver and just rolled my first few on setting 2/3 and im thinking 1 might be tight enough for what i smoke
Do you grind your tobacco? Our PM3+ was taking forever to make a cigarette until we found out that you should grind the tobacco before using it. This goes for every automatic cigarette injector. It runs like a champ now and is much faster. I just use a cheap food chopper and it works great. The only annoying thing is even with it set to "king", it still has a bunch of tobacco sticking out of the end of the tube when it fills it. That's the only thing that I'm still trying to figure out.
What seems to help mine is to lightly press on the filter end while it fills the tube. I don’t know why it works, but it does 👍🏻 Also, using a good ribbon cut like American Club fills better than that crappy shag cut like OHM uses now.
@@lordj81 we tried American Club and weren't fans of it, but we really like Kentucky Select. The Good Stuff was our favorite brand for a while, but their cut seems to be getting thinner and thinner these days. I've been grinding both brands and mixing them together and it's been working out pretty well. I do hold the filter end when it's injecting and it does help a bit, but we still always have tobacco hanging out the end. I might play around with different tubes to see if any of them will work better without changing the flavor too much.
The HK-3 is the most perfect design. The original PM series is an old model that has been made for a long time. The HK-3 has perfectly improved many shortcomings on the original style of the PM, so it is the most worth buying. I have nearly 15 years of experience in sales, and what I said is quite authoritative.
You need to clean out your powermatic 3. It shouldn't take that long to make a cigarette. It's grinding way too long.
hecha tabaco a la powermatic no solo a la hk-3 como no tiene tabaco a los 10 movimientos de las palas de la tolva en la pantalla te sale hooper
I just bought a hk3+ cause of your video..can't wait to start saving money. size was a big part.
no conocia la HK - 3 +...ME PARECE MAS RAPIDA
Just bought the Hawk-Matic HK3 manual and it is an absolute beast! Best machine I have ever used. I do 100mm and it does them perfect. It is a pleasure to use.
your video is very biased!
So you allow the Powermatic 3 to screw up and then end the video saying the advantage is with the hk3? Why don't you do a fair test my friend or just delete this video thank you.
The only thing the PM3 has going for it is the ability to be modified to allow for an external hopper. That's it. It's finicky and over priced for what it is.
The hawk-matic HK3+ undergone a change from the very first one to know prior it was identical to the Powermatic 3 now it has a feature so that you don't have to wait for compaction before the cigarette is created, the new one compacts after the previous cigarette is made. I am also of the belief it shows a small superiority over the pm3 now, however it still compacts a bit tighter than necessary on the lower level end the power supply should be 15 volts which is perfect how I use it! P.S. hoping to see their version of PM5 by the way if it means anything they said they were going to call me back on an issue and never did I have been told their customer service in plain English sucks.
Thank you, this video helped me decide which one to purchase because I didn't know which one I should get them being the 2 to choose from. The HK3 is much more affordable than the PM3 anyway.
The tobacco is not finely chopped. The powermatic3 has to remove the cigarette in two movements. One more detail. The Powematik3 does not work well with short tubes.
Just Getting into RYO using the PM3 and Good Stuff red. I notice frequent 'hopper' stops unless I either hand tear the tobacco before use, or run a batch thru the machine without tubes (to precondition the tobacco). Is there a good tobacco cutter I could use separately for this? Just to precondition the tobacco for perfect machine operation.
Which one can pack the tightest cigarette so it burns longer? I think you can adjust density/fill on both. And which one works best for King size tubes?
I just got into MYO cigs, and bought the cheap powermatic mini before investing in one of the big boys. I’m very pleased with the mini overall, my only real complaint, other than the time commitment (which is to be expected) is that it’s difficult to really pack a cigarette tight. Before making the change I was an American Spirit smoker, and loved the smoke time & density of their cigs. I feel like the pm mini makes a smoke that’s closer to like a camel or Marlboro type smoke.
Thanks for your time.
Hawkmatic kinda packs the kings pretty tight because its made for 100s so its gonna overfill every cig. I smoke silver and just rolled my first few on setting 2/3 and im thinking 1 might be tight enough for what i smoke
Great Video. 👍
Do you grind your tobacco? Our PM3+ was taking forever to make a cigarette until we found out that you should grind the tobacco before using it. This goes for every automatic cigarette injector. It runs like a champ now and is much faster. I just use a cheap food chopper and it works great. The only annoying thing is even with it set to "king", it still has a bunch of tobacco sticking out of the end of the tube when it fills it. That's the only thing that I'm still trying to figure out.
What seems to help mine is to lightly press on the filter end while it fills the tube. I don’t know why it works, but it does 👍🏻
Also, using a good ribbon cut like American Club fills better than that crappy shag cut like OHM uses now.
@@lordj81 we tried American Club and weren't fans of it, but we really like Kentucky Select. The Good Stuff was our favorite brand for a while, but their cut seems to be getting thinner and thinner these days. I've been grinding both brands and mixing them together and it's been working out pretty well. I do hold the filter end when it's injecting and it does help a bit, but we still always have tobacco hanging out the end. I might play around with different tubes to see if any of them will work better without changing the flavor too much.
Yeah this test was slightly unfair because I was using shag cut farmers gold straight out of the bag
Is the hopper size the same?
NOPE
Which is smaller
Does the Cigarette smoke well? Does cherry fallout easily?
Nah cherry stays on and the smokes are of a very slight looser version of commercial cigs giving them a great draw.
Hawk Matic seems like the clear winner. Sad it doesn't get the attention like the PM3 does.
Habeb die sark und die zorr
geil