Analogue Mixing Desks: Connecting and Using
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- čas přidán 29. 01. 2020
- DAW is great - we all know that. It's the ultimate in quality and flexibility, but what if we want to add the tactile nature of a mixing desk, together with using old classic outboard gear?
Well, in this video, I aim to answer questions that have been asked on my video "Recording, Mixing and Mastering: a complete process", which you can see here:
• A Complete Recording P...
Most of the questions asked were how I hooked up everything, so here it is!
There's a diagram at the end, explaining how the equipment is connected.
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A lot to like about this video. The computer was asleep, the cosy studio, nice shelves with stuff on them, old kit and the presenter with a slight Harry Hillness. I'm a fan now. Thanks
Hi Dan, just wanted to say thanks for this content and the diagram at the end. I can't tell you how long I've been racking my brain trying to understand the concept of hybrid mixing. Please keep it up!
Brilliant video, Dan! Well done.
Can't think you enough for doing this video. Answered and solved every problem I had!
Interesting Dan !. i recently picked up a Soundcraft series 600 from a guy who was downsizing his studio.Its a board ive always wanted. Having used the 3200 back in the day. NOW this vid sheds some light into the integration with the current. Thanx man, lots to watch here.
Another great video thanks Dan - I love the flexibility of working with this type of hybrid setup ... thanks for the in depth run through.
Hookey thanks very much and hope the diagram helped at the end as well.
just what I was looking for... Excellent explanation
Lovely to see the blending of the old with the new, thank you. Used the old analogue gear (Teac Tascam Fostex Seck Soundcraft Synths and all the outboard rack units) throughout the 70s and 80s until the responsibilities of life took over. Still have most of it mothballed. Then in recent years I was dragged into the 21st century with an iPad. I found to my amazement the likes of GarageBand and the more sophisticated Cubasis,.......all my room of old gear jammed into an iPad!
Having lived through the analogue days, the ease of use of the modern DAWs is astonishing, but I don’t half miss all those knobs and faders!
Do I detect a resurrection of the analogue equipment? It seems to be happening in the synthesiser world with the revival of the hardware synth classics.
Thank you for your videos, the content is still remarkably close to my heart.
You’re the best honestly mate. Amazing video and Blessings to you 🫶🏿✨
Thank you very much! That will sure give something to ruminate on...awesome!
That helped me out alot , many thanks great vid !
Great Video Thank you.I've been working on setting up a system like that.and your video is a big help.
David T Online cheers David! Good luck with your set up!
Thank you for these information...
Nice video. I totally get what you're doing. I have a Ghost 32 and a Behringer X32. I use Reaper with no Master Bus, as everything is monitored in the console. It's the best of both worlds because I operate the X32 in inline mode and monitor off Reaper's Record Monitor back through the console (I've eliminated latency with Dante). Works fantastic and with X32ReaperAutoMate for automation, I'm mixing records like I did in the 80s but with pristine audio (no tape hiss!) and full automation of over 10,000 parameters on the X32. I wish I had this setup back in 1985!
Thanks Dan Baker!
Pleasure!
Well explained. Thank you.
YOU ARE THE MAN! I SCREEN SHOT COPIED THE DRAWING FOR MY SETUP WITH MY FOCUSRITE AND MY TASCAM M-2516 DESK MIXER! THIS HAS HELPED ME BIG TIME! Thank you!
Woh any chance u can assist me with my set up as i also use Focusrite40 and a Tascam 2516 with Sp1200 and dj mixer.
thanks awesome brother ive been forever trying to do this correctly between digital and my lovely analog gear to get my MPC X hip hop beats knocking .
Excellent and informative video, many thanks.
By the way, what is the mixer on the right hand side being used for?
Great vid!
Thank you .....great video...
yeah man, i agree the production of that era is a genre itself. including reggae and dub reggae. thanks for your very nice approach man.
Thanks. Very helpful.
Thank you for this great video... I have watched it so many times!! I can’t find anything on CZcams to help me get this going but this video. I even ask for tech support at Sweetwater and they told me that this couldn’t be done with an analog mixer. I have a mackie usb mixer and I’m trying to get mines set up like this multi channel. Each separated channel... 1-2, 3-4...etc. I’m using Logic Pro x also. Ima keep watching this until I get it.
It can be, but somehow you have to bridge the gap between the analog console and the DAW - and that is through converters. I recommend the flexibility of Dante audio networking.
Great vid, I have a very similiar setup to you! Soundcraft Ghost 24 analog mixing desk, saffire 56 linked to behringer pro 8 via ADAT, learnt a lot from this, great work
Cheers Cass!
Such great info, but I'm still confused as ever, on trying to cable all my setup. Ugh...I'll keep learning! :o)
I've been using a hybrid set up for awhile. Imho it ads to the sound pleasingly
An Amazng and informative video thank you. The diagramme was magic for someone like me who is a little bot of a technophobe!
Glad you found it useful!
Love watching your videos Dan. But I have a question I really need to know about it. How do you record your final mix or your master on your mixing console please?
Cool, I was curious how to fold back the audio from the interface into the board so I can leave the monitors plugged into it.
Do you recommend TRS or TS for snake cable? Also, do you have a vid with PatchBay set-up and explanations? Hands down one of the best hybrid explanation vids ive seen in last two decades. I could watch hours of instruction and be quite entertained. Thank you!!
great vid. thanks! oddly your board is the same one I've been watching on Reverb for sale.
My board is starting to show its age as it has some rustling on the phantom power part of the PSU. Better change some caps I reckon!
I love this video, explain exactly what I’ve been looking for. Thank you so much Dan. But can you please tell me how you add outputs from your DAW to your audio interface straight to the mixing console, so that I can record and use the console for mixing please?
Hi there - I have the Focusrite Saffire Pro 56, which has eight line ins and ten line outs (as well as its own mic pre-amps), and I wire these into the first ten line inputs of the desk, and then the red fader busses go into the inputs of the interface. On Logic, each channel can be sent to any pair of outputs that shows up on the interface. For individual channels, one would have to pan the channels hard left and right, for example, Kick and snare could both output on channels 1-2, But kick hard left to channel 1, and snare hard right to channel 2
Dan Baker thank you so much for your reply. Really do appreciate it. Now I understand your explanation but the problem I have, my interface only has 1 outputs which I set as a main output. Now I’m going to keep this in mind and buy an interface that has 10 outputs or more. Thank you once again Dan. Love watching your videos
Thank you Dan, another great video which is a great help as I slowly assemble my studio. I was wondering if there was any chance you might be able to do a video on monitors and achieving a balanced recording and mixing reference system, or something along these lines?
Chris Pretlove I’ll have a go at that one at some stage. My room is very small though, so I’ll have to think that one through..
Dan Baker that is precisely why I was asking for your experienced opinion. Most of us are trying to record and mix using our ears with far from ideal spaces in which to monitor the results. Thank you for your reply and giving my request some consideration.
I like this guy. I wanna set up an analog desk into protools, I just want faders and the feel of mixing, Im not fond at all of mixing in the box
Thank you so much for great videos and positive spirit! Can you recommend how to properly gain stage line outputs from sound card into the line inputs of console (I am using Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 into old Studiomaster 16-4-2 Series 5, Logic and Pro Tools). I am using sine wave generator at 1kHz, but I don't know how many dBFS, -20, -18, -12...Cheers!
Really enjoyed watching this, learned a lot. I'm looking to build a similar setup to start mixing dub. I don't have any experience with these boards though, would you still recommend getting an older analog board or a newer hybrid mixer?
I had the same desk!
4 buses, sweepable mids on all mono input channels....
Really nice desk.
Actually miss the sound of it.
Giving serious thought to getting a decent 2 Ch USB audio input and a basic 8 Ch mixing desk just for fact of having actual physical rotary controls... Which I miss
My Behringer mixer has a very similar setup. 2 of the sends are switchable for post/pre fader and a nice fx processor.
Thanks Great Video your a natural.. Can I as what software Daw you use?
It is great brother..... I do have one question; how can I connect soundcraft si impact mixer to pro tools plus how can I prepare a monitor output from the mixer with out using any audio interface ?
Hey fantastic video it a great help thanks for giving you time👍one of the best on CZcams.. what mixer are you using plz
Hi there-cheers for watching! I use an old Soundcraft Spirit studio
Nice workflow!
Hi Dan, great video thanks! I was wondering, how is the digital recorder hooked in to the system, and where do you input microphones? On the drawing it says channels 9-16 are used, but can you still use the mic inputs on 1-8 switching from line to mic? I have a 24/8 Soundcraft series 1600, Fostex D2424LV, and Scarlett 18i20, very similar to your set up, looking to get everything talking to each other in Reaper on a Mac Mini.
@Dan Baker On 5:30, how exactly are you doing this? I'm a newbie to analog gear, I've been producing in the box only thus far.
Hi Dan, that is a great video and I had my mixer set up the same, but how do I configure Logic Pro X, as I have no sounds? I'm using 2 MOTU 828 MK 3's and a Tascam M-2516 16-8 desk. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you
Nice One! Hooking up my old 1990 Fostex R8 with Logic this weekend to a new ADAT 8-channel interface. May dig out my Desk now for a bit of a play too?
Tim Sales nice. Long live the R8. I’ve got two, one for spares and one that is alright-avoid the edge tracks though for anything but timecode or kick drum!
Hello Dan, I love your channel and your music as well as your unique creativity. A question regarding your video on using your Sc Spirit mixer along with your daw. What is the mixer’s main output connected to? I’m thinking the audio interface? Also how did you connect your interface to channels 1 and 2 of your mixer? Thanks again for all you do to help us music nuts out.
Cheers Michael - The desk bus outputs (red faders) are connected to the line inputs of the DAW, and then I take all ten outputs of the interface back to channels 1 - 10 of the desk in case I would like to mix through analogue channels. The main output of the desk goes to my two-track rack, comprising a compressor/limiter, a CD recorder (I hardly use this) and a Revox reel to reel machine. I also have hooked up a cassette deck, Minidisc and an old graphic equaliser, for tidying up old recordings. All this goes through a little mixer of its own, and back into the desk for transfer to DAW.. I’ve got away without using a patch bay...
Hi Dan great video thanks. I have looked at a few of them and very impressed I have to say. I am a total newbie and connected my equipment up but unfortunately all to no avail. I can't get a sausage out of it (No audio in or out) . I have tried CZcams and searching Google etc but can't seem to find exactly what I want. I am in the hope you or any readers can assist me please before I get the proverbial sledge-hammer to it all. I wanted to ask you about hooking up cables and which cable goes where. It is all for my own amusement as I recently had a heart attack and a stroke so got lots of time and thought I would try to create a new hobby if I can. The instruments I have so far is a Les Paul Electric (Copy) Fender Strat (Copy) Fender (Genuine Semi Acoustic) & Ibanez Base Guitar with Marshal amp.
Windows PC with Ableton Live Lite v10. Equipment is:- Behringer (DI Box GI-100) - Personas Eris 3.5 Monitors - Mackie ProFX8v2 Mixer (USB) - Akai Professional MPK225 MIDI (USB) & Sure SM-57 Mic etc. Wondered if you can point me in the right direction as regards which cables go where and in what order please. I would really appreciate any help you can give or direct me to a Facebook page or forum as I am at a total loss. Many thanks Tony (Rotherham)
do u prefer using mixing console? or in the box?
Are the input of your outboard FX monos ? Is there a point using a Y cable to an outboard fx input and put it back in stereo or is mono enough since my AUX output are monos ?
Great video! So, let's say I've got a drum track in my DAW, which I am putting out via an output channel on my audio interface, to track 1 on my mixer. And, as you did in the video (near the end), let's say I manipulate the EQ and levels a bit on the mixer, and then use the AUX to bring in a bit of "crunch" - It's sounding great! But, what do I do with that track now? How do I go about storing those physical changes?
Is it simply a case of routing the drum track 1 over to one of the the group buses, and then record that bus into a new track in my DAW, and then replace the original track with the new one?
Or, is there a way to record the new changes to drum track 1 without recording to a second intermediary track?
You could play back onto another track on computer to go with the original one, but also use the old one as a reference for phase: any D to A and then back A to D incurs slight delays in signals.
When you put tracks on a buss inside your daw do you come to mixer on a mono Channel or stereo channel?
I'm just getting back into the desk side of things, after many years of digitial. I want ti hook my Alesis Quad to the Soundcraft Spirit Studio, but I don't have Aux outs and returns? Only Aux and FX and Ins, any ideas?
Love
the channel BTW!
If you have aux sends use one to send to the Quad and use 2 channels ins on the mixer to connect the outs from the Alesis. Pan them hard left/right
Great video. Love your work brother. You're a hell of a musician. I did have a question for you. Do your prefer plugging directly into the board or the interface for recording vocals? The reason I ask is due to the mic pre amps in each.
Cheers for watching! For vocals I tend to go into the interface direct as it needs to be high enough quality (ie no noise) so that when I compress vocals, I don’t end up with too much hiss..
@@DanBakerMusic Dan is that a Soundcraft Spirit Studio you have there? If so, would it be possible to do a video that goes in depth into the general operation or in other words....show us how to set it up and use it. I just bought one off eBay and am a bit "lost" in it's operation.
There is just one thing I don't understand yet. If you control all the effects on your mixing desk, how does your DAW safe these? When you use a plugin, that plugin is being saved on that channel you use the certain plugin on. Does this work the same with a mixing desk?
Thanks for this great video! I love this way of mixing and I'm kinda doing it myself, but how do get your final mix (through the mixer) back to the computer? Do you send your returns back to the buss outputs or how does that goes?
Edit: Nevermind, I've got the answer out of another video of yours, thanks anyways
jumparmy which video answered your question? I’m wondering the same thing :)
@@MrYolo5 yeah I was too!
is it possible to use a mixer that have no usb conection but midi in/out/thru (5pin) and plug it to a soundcard like Focusrite that also have in and out conection and control a virtual mixer of a DAW ? I mean that if i use the midi learn protocol and assign 1 real fader to the virtual one via midi in an out conection, does the virtual mixer react ?
Another great insight into your setup - thanks! Just curious... I know you have more outboard than those four effects units (for example you have another compressor on the other shelf). Have you ever felt the need to consider using a patchbay?
Yes-various other bits lying around but I try to avoid patch bays unless they’re expensive (and quality) Bantam Jack ones. The standard quarter inch Jack bays are great to start with, but a nightmare when you start getting dust and loose connections...
@@DanBakerMusic Yes I heard the Bantam ones are good! I have a couple of 1/4-inch ones at the moment but I've yet to set everything up. I guess the more you plug and unplug them the worse it gets, so I'm hoping my normalling will be sensibile enough to keep things stable for a long time yet. Thanks for the response.
Looking for an analog board now
Dan, another doubt here. How do you do the mix print with the console? Your faders all in the right position, your mix sounds good , bit how do you print it?? Thanks in advance once again!
You can’t! It’s a kind of hybrid thing but the only way to print the mix is to route it all back to a stereo input on the computer, or another digital recorder.
I had a question, can i use my Spirit Live 16 Power Supply with my Spirit Studio 16? Or do you use something else? CPS150 PSU? DCP has 5 pins and seemlingly same thread diameter. Looks like it would fit, any help. Also the live pins are slightly rotated clockwise, whereas the Studio is perfectly vertically. 3 pins on top, 2 on bottom
DCP100 PSU is the one i have currently and wondering if it will work
what am I doing wrong? I have the same mixer but when I connect a guitar and preamp to a line input along with a drum machine to 2 other line inputs, I get no control over the volume with the faders? I have to press the PFL to hear what is going on through the monitors plugged into the control room outs. The volume is adjusted by the rotary gain control. How are the faders controling your sound? Thanks
Tbh I’m stuck in choosing the appropriate mixer. I’m in between a Korg MW mixer or the new Tascam Models.
I own a TR8, TB3, Korg KP3, Microkorg, CDJ, MPC, Guitar, Piano, Bass Guitar, a Boss Over-Drive Pedal, and a Boss Sp Sampler as of right now. So for a total of (11)hardware pieces/equipment what mixers are generally suggested? (including channel wise) I’m new to music and producing and would like to learn how to a build a workflow with mixer integration. Thank you!
The most important thing here is to have a mixer with as many input channels as you need, plus a few more to future-proof your setup. Quality-wise, they’re all very similar, so don’t worry too much about different makes. What you want to avoid is patch-bays, as these introduce noise, loose-connections, etc.. to your audio chain. Cabling is also vital to success - you need to make sure you don’t have to constantly plug and unplug stuff...
Great video, but I am new to this stuff and I was wondering how the daw would pick up the level changes on the mixer. If I record something at a certain volume and decide to reduce the volume then I export the project. Would the reduced volume be on the mp3/wav or would I have to re-record at a lower volume then export?
I have a multi-input audio interface, whose inputs are connected to the outputs of my mixing desk, using jack to jack cables. With respect to exporting at a lower volume, yes - you can just reduce the level and re-export, instead of having to re-record. However, if the level was too high, and there is distortion, then yes - re-recording is the only option.
@@DanBakerMusic ok thank you.
i have a question, do you then only record the outputs of the bus channels or also the main output channel?
or is it bit of both to see what situation?
i have a simple analog mixer with only one main output (i have no buss channels or single outputs from each track)
all i can do is put the 8 outputs from my audio interface into my mixer but then only have 1 stereo channel out being the main mix, i feel like i need to upgrade to a little bit more option rich mixer?
Thanks for the video in advance helped me a lot!
Hi there-I use a pair of buss outputs for recording back to computer, but you could use the master as well..
@@DanBakerMusic What if you want to have an effect on your master chain ? :D
That is a very clear diagram and explanations too, thank you very much!
gr8 vid .. but you haven't mentioned the inputs and the outputs .. are the blue lines input?
The blue line are the outputs of the desk, which feed the line inputs of the audio interface. The red lines are the inputs of the desk, which come from the interface outputs.
@@DanBakerMusic thank you .. another question :) why did you take the speakers from the desk .. why not from the interface ...
hello Dan, thanks for the video. I do have the same mixing desk and i am following your connection. but one thing i need to know please if you don't mind me asking. HOW CAN I RECORD MY FINAL MIX ON THE CONSOLE ? straight to my DAW?
THANK YOU
If you have a two channel interface, enable a new stereo track on DAW, but set it to be muted. Then play back the mix through the desk from the computer, at the same time recording it back onto your new stereo track via the inputs of your interface. Because it’s muted, it won’t feed back.
@@DanBakerMusic Aww Thank You so much..
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Does the effects from your outboard gear show up in your MP3 or do you have to use an external device?
I just mix the effects in as normal on the desk and then output to a stereo machine...
Can I also use a midas venice 240 in this kind of setup
Most certainly!
Hello! I would like to record my band live, have it mixed, and burned straight to cd... I was wondering If I could connect an analog mixer with 16 channels to a cd digital recorder like the BOSS BR-1180 Thanks!
Hi There - the 1180 I think won’t allow 16 tracks, but yes you can connect a live mixer to the inputs of the 1180, and i think there are ten inputs. You’ll have to check how many tracks you can record at once though.
I just seen this video and thought I would see if you had any input of another video I had seen they said that you can’t run analog into a DAW without a timing setup between the interface and your computer is this right our wrong looking at your setup you don’t have anything like that. Looking at the prices of a timing set up was just around 2500$ us and up if it’s something I don’t have to have I would like to know I’m a noob when it comes to this but trying to figure it out any feed back would help thanks
Hi Chris - I have a feeling that this is about monitoring inputs and outputs at the same time, which would potentially happen with a mixing desk. This is only really an issue if using a lot of processing on the computer, where the output would be delayed by all the processing going on. As for the timing setup between the interface and computer, that sounds to me more the fact that if you have more than one interface (extra channels), then you need a word clock cable between the two things. That’s $2.50 though! Send me the link and I’ll have a look...
Hello Dan, Nice video! I wander where you record your mixdown on what ?
Hi there-I recorded via line in onto a Zoom H2 handy recorder...
@@DanBakerMusic Ok! yes that is possible Thanx
I always wish to mix like this but can u pls suggest me a good audio interface for as to accomplish my wish to do mixing in analogue
Hi there, basically anything with multiple outputs. I use a Focusrite Saffire Liquid56, which has ten outputs.
Does this eliminate the need for saffire mix control to run the liquid 56.....wow i sure hope so. it would be a Godsend!
Potentially yes. I do find the mix control a bit weird and sometimes clunky. Best to set it with a computer and then leave it!
Could I ask a question? When do you mix a song you do all in the box? Do you use Logic Pro's automations ? If you do in this way, are you using the audio mixer only to listen. Thank you in advance.
Hi Salvatore-yes most of the time I use Logic, but sometimes I’m on faders if I’m mixing drums, using individual outputs of the audio interface to supply the mixing desk..
@@DanBakerMusic thank you
Thank you for sharing this... If possible can anyone help? , is it possible to assign and Control Logic X effects and channel faders with the Analogue multi-track mixer?
So can have complete or at least more hands-on control mixing within Logic/DAW of choice.
Can 'right-click, midi learn' be used to used to assign these functions?
I assume all this is possible but would very much appreciate some confirmation if it is.
All the best
Hi there, yes this would be possible as long as you had enough aux channels on the desk and then inputs for the effects to come back into the desk...
@@DanBakerMusic thank you for reply and confirmation. I am aiming to obtain a multi-track mixer, your information is helping me to decide which one to get. Many thanks and all he best
I need help I have a mixer and a PreSonus interphase trying to connect both
If with the help of a mixing desk and outboard equipment, I am able to generate the sound I need....what do I need a DAW for? I never understood how big recording studios have their set up. Do they use only mix consoles together with effects boxes or also use plugins for the effects with the DAW?
It’s a bit of both with the big studios - they tend to have multi-channel audio interfaces, where signals can be routed through dedicated studio effects units and analogue signal paths. Some studios still use dedicated recorders such as the Otari digital mulittracks or other hard disk based stuff.
So are you using a split console? If so do I need a split console to be able to route each individual sound from my daw to the analog mixer?
It’s an in line console, which has two channels per single strip. A split console is much bigger as each strip would have only one channel...
Sorry- to add, the output of the DAW could feed the “tape inputs”, and some consoles (including my Soundcraft Spirit Studio) allow the channels to be flipped, meaning you get all the EQ and sends where the tape inputs would usually just be level and pan.
Hi :) maybe a stupid question. But how do you patch your monitorspeakers? My brain keeps giving me feedback allert signals ;) But you play everything nicely without out and ins feedbacking somewhere in the whole analogue/ daw , back and forth signal path. Im am in the proces of wiring up my studio according to the methods you are using , only diff is the instrument choice, but my not so logic brain messes up my return routing from daw to desk and back.. I hope you still can destill the question through my babbling 😅. How do you output your speakers. Through the same interface ? ( latency issues?) or via lightpipe or otherwise through a separate interface with just monitir speaker out ? Kind regards Mik
Hi Mik-I just wired the speakers up to my monitor outputs on the desk itself..
BTW - this is all great but doesn't it limit you to 8 tracks of mixdown unless you mixdown in the box? and if working with many tracks don't you have to sub them together to output to the 8ch output of the focusrite for 'monitoring'?
Yes there are limitations to this method, but sometimes that can be a good thing, like only having an eight track recorder (been there!). You can get 24 ins and outs on MOTU stuff, and this is a cheap way of doing that!
@@DanBakerMusic - right, so with my board and interface i'm debating on whether to limit my inputs as my outputs are limited anyway. i have a 2nd gen Focusrite 18i8 which only has 2 line outs(also has assignable pair of stereo headphone outs and spdif which makes the '8' in '18i8'. kinda lousy if you ask me.) so i'd be mixing ITB but I'd use the 4 line inputs on 4sub outs. the other 4 inputs on the interface have preamps and I'd play with those separately just to compare them. else i pick up the 8ch behringer or 18i20 and get 8 inputs, 8 outputs. we'll see.
I dan i have a question can you just plug your input of your sound card into your direct out of your channel mixer ?
That would be fine to do that.
When you say: "You can wire up extra outputs if you use a digital cable and another breakout box see you could actually have lot of lot this..." you mean to get 2 another saphire 56 to get those extra outputs?
Yes-more audio interfaces would be needed for extra outs. MOTU make one with 24 ins and outs
Is that that fostex d-100 digital recording machine in front? or whatever "d-xxx" model number it was... d-88?.. or is that tascam?.. :(
D160. 16 tracks of digital loveliness!
Why did you send to the interface via buss outputs and not the direct outs?
Ha! Yes...probably the cabling installation that I’d put in. Mind you, the bussing does allow for more flexibility and doesn’t really add much in the way of noise or distortion...
HELLO.. WHAT ID LIKE IS AN ANALOGUE MIXER WITH BETWEEN 12 AND 32 CHANNELS ..4 AUX SENDS.. THAT HAS A TRANSPARENT SOUND..IF POSSIBLE AN ADAT OUPUT CONNECTION AND NO BUILT IN EFFECTS OR RECORDERS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT DETRACKS FROM SIMPLE TRACKING AND MIXING.. I AM USING A DAW AND OUTBOARD SYNTHS AND EFFECTS..WHAT PRODUCTS CAN YOU RECOMMEND PAST OR PRESENT PLEASE..ACUTUALLY I THINK I NEED AT LEAST 8 BUS SENDS AS I HAVE AROUND 12 SYNTH INPUTS FOR RECORDING
DAMIEN
You won’t find an analogue desk with ADAT on it but Soundcraft stuff works well and usually has enough aux sends. Older Mackie (USA) stuff is very good too...
What year model is your iMac? Great video man and that Funky Soul Jam sounds sooooo good!
Thanks! I hope to finish my tune at some stage...My Mac is an iMac from 2019, running OSX15, 3GHz 6-core Intel, with 16GB RAM...
Could I use patch Bay to patch what goes inside the inputs on my mixer - either my gear (while recording) or the outputs of my interface (for playback)?
You can of course use a patch bay, but it does add potential for loose connections and noise. This particular desk is an “inline” console which has two inputs per channel-one line/mic and a tape input..
@@DanBakerMusic so if I have 2 inputs per channel (xlr and trs) could I connect let say my synth and output of my soundcard to the same channel? I want to get as many opinions, because I really don't want to buy USB mixer that has no inserts
@@distortimus7631 an input on a channel won't sum signals if you plug in on the trs and XLR at the same time. Trs is for line level or instrument level, XLR for mic. Mic goes to preamp. Trs bypasses
Are there phase issues to expect when sending and receiving by using the same soundcard?
Yes there are phase issues most certainly when using the sound card as a monitor. Either listen to what’s going in or what’s coming out, but not a mix of them...
@@DanBakerMusic Thank you, Sir :-)
What desk is this?
Sounds like a 70s porno soundtrack..nice work
Can you tell me what kind of interface?
Krystal Toutcheque Focuseite Safire Pro 56
Do you have a schematic
some say that cheap analog mixer destroy the sound quality ..whats your opinion?
It’s a hard one to decide, especially if the music going through it isn’t any good...!
haha ... even old cheap mixer matters ... isn't it?
could anyone tell me which mixer Dan has?
I can! It’s a Soundcraft Spirit Studio 16-8-2, manufactured 1999.
What model - brand is that mixer?
Soundcraft spirit studio
@@DanBakerMusic thanx, is possible to use a Fostex 812?
So you aren't mixing into a 2 bus comp then but applying it at the end in the DAW once you have finalized the mix.
Yes..
Anyone have any experience with antique gear?
I just acquired a yamaha m512 and two peavey cs800s for 200bucks!
But I'm a bit over my head figuring it all out
That stuff will outlive cockroaches. Used CS-800 amps before. You can put anything through them. We used one to supply 60Hz at 120V as a power supply! Worked like a dream for US equipment when in the UK...
@@DanBakerMusic nice! How about a video on how that old stuff works and gets connected?
Hi can you help me. ?? I have a normal. Domestic but powerful amplifier " a analog mixer. Beringer 8000. Desk. And a nice computer, and lots if keyboards and guitars. I was recording using wavpad". No problem " now i purchased mixpad. Which can multi track". BUT " when iv recorded say trac 1 , and listen to it while recording trac 2. , - track 2. Records what is on trac 1. Arrrggghhh". Iv wired it every which way. ????? And im an electronics engineer". More at home inside this stuff than around the front lol. I just want to record tracs while listening to any ither trac. To build my tune. Must be hiw its wired. My brain is about to explode ". Please help if you know the answer cheers sir.