Ip chun chi sau Shaun Rawcliffe and others.wmv
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- čas přidán 13. 12. 2008
- A short video of Ip Chun performing chi sau with sifu Shaun Rawcliffe and a few others (who I don't know the names of, sorry) at the first ving tsun conference. I hope the people in the video don't mind me posting this, I'll take it down if it's a problem with any of you guys. This is uploaded without permission but with epic respect for their skill and contribution to the art. Sifuchen.
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Look, how responsive master Ip Chun is. He is the real deal Wing Chun master
2:05 - when you try so hard to dominate an old man with aggression then get smacked on the nose for it. Adding tension clearly made it more possible for Ip Chun to sense the strikes and openings, amazing exhibition of composure by the old master.
Put in there an amateur boxer....
Great video! I learned much from that. It is amazing that Master Ip Chun retained this much sensitivity, reflex, footwork etc at age of 70+. This is a great example of how Wing Chun helps you to understand your body through very simple exercises.
respect for a great master - the best thing with kung fu is to see elder men being agile, aware, and combative
Darknives, thank you for explaining. I find it funny to hear people comment and say "there was no kicking" "there was no takedowns" and junk like that. People, like he said, it's a drill called Chi Sau. It is NOT sparring. It's ultimately not even competition. It's all about helping each other learn sensitivity. This is a beautiful art and I have loved learning it. Please be respectful.
this is the result when you dedicate your life learning something worthy, will be a legend.
that last move by ip chun was epic :D a living legend!
Extraordinary skills from the son of the extraordinary master ip man
Most of the people who talk bad about Wing Chun probably haven't grasp the understanding of it.Here is a Man who has lived longer than all of us and live Wing Chun.None of us youngster have any right to say anything bad,great job GM Ip Chun
if i was good at chi sau, i don't think i have to guts to hit ip chun out of respect
Amazing display of Chi Sao, I would love to train with Ip Chun.
to all the haters u will be lucky if u are able to pie on your own at 75 let alone fight.show some respect for the great man
I'm not a "hater" but, with all due respect, nobody's "fighting" in this video, I don't think anyone in history has ever "fought" like this. As my Wing Chun teacher told me to begin with, chi sao is not fighting, it's an exercise to develop attributes that can be helpful in fighting.
the caveman the exercise is to develop the sense through one’s arms in CQB, to control the situation, not for offense. Think that this system is limited to this exercise is total ignorance. A open minded disciple could adapt Wingchun to various styles, if he get the very core, the basic concepts.
Why is he great? He is Ip Man's son sure, but that doesn't make him great. I have no idea if any of Ip Man's students can fight except maybe 5 or 6.
@@solus161 so funny why would you put yourself in the situation like this with this old man playing arm tricks if you could just jab him, leg kick elbows and knees.
@@rosenamajunas1159 this is just an exercise, a contest where people compete in defined skills. But it requires fine motor nerves and good footwork to not getting overwhelmed, meaning it's easier to avoid/negate/block jab, kick, elbow etc. What looks like to you (two men swinging their arms) is one stress testing other opening for strike. But if your opponent is way bigger than you, that's another story. In my country, wingchun, and all other varieties are taught to police forces and their wingchun could be different. Masters like Ipchun are like textbook, and instructors learning from them could develop their own varieties.
The greatest achievement is selflessness.
The greatest worth is self-mastery.
The greatest quality is seeking to serve others.
The greatest precept is continual awareness.
The greatest medicine is the emptiness of everything.
The greatest action is not conforming with the worlds ways.
The greatest magic is transmuting the passions.
The greatest generosity is non-attachment.
The greatest goodness is a peaceful mind.
The greatest wisdom is seeing through appearances.
Chi Sau is a training game. The game part is trying to get your opponent to make a mistake and thus create an opening. The training part is in developing the sensitivity in (not just) the arms and wrists. As this develops with practice, the opponents intentions can be felt early as well as reactions speed up now that the arm no longer has to wait for the eye to relay signals to the brain. No hits are counted and no score is kept as the practitioners are really trying to help each other.
Damn!!!!!! the old man is fast!!!!!!!!! He's a perfect example of that...........
"YOU JUST NEVER KNOW HE REALLY IS" type........at first glance.........he's a very harmless looking old man........but here.........he's lightning quick, and his hands are quicker then his mind...... I guess it really is true what a finance coach of mine once said............. those who know don't need to say anything........those who don't know....say all the time
For those who have been touched by ip chun..know that you are blessed...no ego......beblessedalways
I'm surprised that some would be so aggressive in their time with him.
sugarfuut Yeah man you’re totally right, huge lack of respect (knowing for sure the grampa would hit them hard and fast if he wanted to...)
@@detritusman it would be disrespectful to not try
I think he is asking for it as it is for the show and i wouldnt be surprised cause his defensive and movement is still there for his age
Anyone who talks with disrespect about a great master like Ip Chun (or any other master who has trained upon years and years), using ignorant comments like "I would take control of his wrist" etc, only shows that they have not achieved the true spirit of martial arts, which is first and foremost respect to people who have devoted their lives to martial arts.
Believe me, they would have shown him much less respect if they had gone easy on him. Yip Chun wanted the world to see how far his western students have come since the 70's. It is Wing Chun philosophy to train in the most realistic manner possible without anyone getting harmed. The fact that some of these guys are really going for it only further underlines Yip Chun's skill.
absolutely great Grandmaster
I love that even at that age he's still got that kind of speed and power.
"Awesome" is a good start though ;) I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
Muito respeito por esse estilo de luta do saudoso mestre Ip Man!!
This is really a great video. Two reasons.
1. Sifu Ipchun having the courage and energy to still face unknown wing chun practitioners publicly in free chi sao.
2. How much disrespect and ego outsiders can include in their chisao just to show how much better they are than a 75 year old man.
Ha ha this is amazing ;D RESPECT I looove many forms of martial arts ( if that is what this is , pardon my ignorance ) I find it totally fascinating and would so love to participate with some one else to take classes . Thanks for posting this , very inspiring , loved the last one the most ! ;D
Thank you for this wonderful comment :) It's poetry in motion to see taisigung Rawcliffe and Ip Chun chi sau
Amazing!
Thank you for sharing.
i feel proud of ip man doing this kind of demostration :)
omg this old man is a live legend!!!!
I love the last line of your comment. My feelings exactly.
OMG IP IS WONDERFUL...... I LOVE IP MAN
Thats his son incase you think its him if u didnt then im wrong
lol I love how Ip Chun makes him pay for it though ;;
Nice to see a comment in his favour, there's so much negativity toward him on youtube, I appreciate your appreciation lol
Excuse my language, but.....FUCKING AWESOME!! Just wonderful. I would love to learn this since I am soon going to have hip-replacement surgery, and I don't know if I will be able to even throw a kick afterwards. But this is just great!!!
Awesome. I really really like Sifu Rawcliffe's Chi Sao. He always looks totally rooted.
I have been lucky enough to witness lots of great chi sau, but the opening of this film where Ip Chun chi saus with Sifu Martin Brierley shows more usage of Wing Chun's energies and minute angles in such a short space of time, it is a mind blowing example of high level Kung Fu. It's apparent these two have practiced together for many years. What do you guys think??
2:25 - and that's a wrap!
What this training adds to the Kung Fu is an increased ability to counter and deflect and a much more instinctive way of applying techniques. The actual striking is left out for obvious reasons. It does seem counter intuitive in the very beginning, but it very quickly animates the "static" techniques learnt in the forms.
Just uploaded the other clip I mentioned, hope you enjoy it :)
I'm quite new to wing chun, do you have an example of a very good chi sau video?
@avetiszakharyan I wish I knew :( I ripped it from the DVD so I could listen to it but it's poor quality. Would like to know who composed it myself.
Just wonderfull!!
Thank you Kris.
Sensacional ❤
great master wing chun best martial arts than all
Thanks for all your knowledge teacher
R.I.P IP Chun God bless the IP family
amazingly he's still going strong and still training at 95 years old!
You mean Ip Ching . Not Ip chun...Ip chun is still alive and well.
Awesome!.... Just... Awesome! ;')
He is is 86 at year 2020. Try to fight at that age and let us see. Respect!
he is 95 now
His brother is 86 or something but he is 95 like *Bela Oster* said
What many people unfamiliar with Wing Chun often assume to be different techniques are often the same techniques but being applied in a different context. For example a front thrusting kick and a side thrusting kick are the same kick. It is the opponent that has changed position, thus the concept and application change but the technique stays the same.
Freaking Amazing!!
wher do i find Qingyue Collection - 12 Kung Fu - "Dragon Song 3 ??? ic ant find it anywhere
That's a fair point. I've been to a seminar led by Rawcliffe and he's ridiculously good at what he does, so I assume it's just him and his mate playing around and having some fun when they chi sau, rather than bad wing chun or anything. I still find it fun to watch, I hope you do too :)
How can I find a music that is in this video? :) could you please help?
yeah and Shaun Rawcliffe vs Ip Chun - looks pretty cool :)
The last guy who fought with ip chun , used a different way of attacking , well done. even though it didnt work out so well , it shows that he understands how to intercept.
Do you have an example of the undiluted system?
Incredible...OLD but BOLD......
@Shindai Okay, so it was hard to find this song :) I got some track id software that recognized the song, but name was in Chinese, so I was forced to draw these hieroglyphs with my hands in order to get them recognized by another software into letters and symbols I can actually copy, to put them in Google search box and go through Chinese sites while translating them to English to Google translate.
so - song is called: Qingyue Collection - 12 Kung Fu - "Dragon Song 3
and I got the mp3 :-P
75 years old guys 75 ... fucking amazing for that age!
Nice to see a fellow human with a brain the size of a brain instead of a grape.
Some cool fight styles put a bit of heartburn in and you can be Ip man so quick
always good looking stuff from the Ip family
IP CHUNS SHOES ARE SIIIIK!!!
ReefaRollin says it all.....Wing Chun is a real fighting art.People that know CQC get how real WC is.
18 people have no idea what a real master is.
much respect for grand master ip chun
Wing Chun theory states that all kicking has an inherent weakness in that one leg must be removed from the ground which considerably diminishes the effectiveness of the stance (this is a fact). However, the longer range and increased power of the legs when compared with the arms (hands) means that no complete martial art can ignore kicking.
@Shindai Guys, gotta remember he is much much older than these younger folk. But still a man his age to perform such things at his age, I applaud him and look up to him.
impresionante...great...amazing¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
I love ip chun kungfu!
It depends on the school. I knew of one that focused more on fitness and conditioning, they said it was based more on the wing chun Ip Man studied when he was a younger man. For the life of me I can't remember what they called it. Londong Wing Chun look like an excellent school that does conditioning and high pressure drills, and I think Samuel Kwok's lineage in general does things a bit more "robustly" than some others. Check out different classes, it's the only way to know for sure :)
Should bong sau be left out or should you drop the arm to a tan sau straight after?
@erbake this is a video of chisao.
Chisao is a type of training where you use your arms to train sensitivity,
that's why there's no legs..
Great master
They were having fun. Yet also demonstrating WC chi sau skills.
GRANDMASTER IP MAN, THE BEST OF THE BEST.
lulz, quite a mental image, thanks for that :D
That's a shame, may I ask how come? I'm trying to work up the funds and contacts to go train there for a month, I'm in Wales and don't drive so it's kinda awkward. Went to a seminar he did in November though, insane skills on the guy, good laugh too. I'm gutted for you that you had to stop :(
What is the song of the video?
Alright, but what exactly makes you think that he would let you gain control of his wrist and how are you assuming that you are going to do this?
Do you know what he would attempt to do to counter it?
The great ip man’s son still moves great during his chun sao and styling in those Nike air max ‘95😎. Wonderful!
@anpredictable What don't you understand? Perhaps I could help explain it.
Wing Chun adapts itself to a practitioners size and strength. Ip Chun has a very technical, precise and minute style as he is relatively small of stature. Ip Ching who is considerably taller than his brother has a more fluid, power orientated style. Wing Chun is about adapting to the body you have and I think both men have done this beautifully.
great!
@1UpGamers He started late in WC. When Bruce lee because famous he started taking interest in WC. That's Yip Chun.
He didn't start until he was in his late 30's. He wasn't so interested until after the death of his father.
Nesse vídeo aprendi que devemos deixar nosso legado na terra e devemos tentar fazer isso todos os dias pq quando o tempo chega só restará o nosso legado deixado em vida
idont understand but i have a respect for this old man
It’s called the immovable elbow for reason sir...
2:23 was crazy. what an ending with that neck chop.
The magnificent Master the son of the legendary master.👍
What is this song?
Why argue? just see love, see truth, and embrace all things as beautiful. Its not about who's or what's the greatest, we are all equal its not about violence, its a spiritual path, discipline self control. Spirituality and the mind will always over weigh the physical being the physical being ends the mind however does not. Bruce lee had a great mind, ip chun also.
The maximum grandmaster Chun
great demo
Awesome. Ip chun is really a true master
Another interesting wing chun chi sao video:
[ Wingchun Spirit Club] LUYỆN VÀO TAY - TRAINING CHI SAO
Bingo, sodamiza! You hit it right on the money.
Pps freshhhhfritz is spot on in his reply. The hands move so much faster when you cut your eyes out of the equation. :)
i went to rawcliffes class in Bham for a bit, really great atmosphere but i had to quit :(
yesss
ip man - i can do this all day