WAP 7 Locomotive कहा गायब हो रहे है ? | Why shortage of WAP-7 in indian railways
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Wap 5 are very less nowadays
Underrated loco
Acha hua wap 5 aur 7 kaam ho raha hai😂 yeee
No new production of wap5 engine
they are NOT EFFICIENT
Wap5 has bobo wheel configuration due to which it cannot be used in ghat section and hill areas. Only in plains.
IR needs to ramp up production of both WAP5 and WAP7. On many trains, push-pull WAP5 will be a great idea.
WAP7 & WAG 9 both brother's are successful emplolyes of Indian Railways 🇮🇳❤
To be honest rail fans ke perspective se mujhe vande bharat itni acchi nahi lagti. No doubt its a top class train but wap 7 + 24 LHB coaches are love ❤️ earlier WAP4 + 24 ICF coaches were awesome pair. Hopefully WAP7 ki shortage fulfill ho jayegi
North Western railway and western railway both zone most electrified now a days that's why Wap 7 are more visible here..
I think that IR is focusing on manufacturing more freight locomotives at the moment. That is affecting the production of WAP7 and WAP5 locomotives. Vande Bharat is being made in ICF and its production is probably not affecting WAP7 production.
Money matters
Yep I think for dfcs
Yeah... According to IR it's going to produce 1K WAG-9 but just a couple 100 WAP-7
New vande bharat services ❤
❤Patna-Howrah
❤Puri-Rourkela
❤Udaipur-Mathura Prayagraj-Varanasi-Gorakhpur
❤Indore-Jaipur
❤Mangalore-Kollam/tvc
❤Kacheguda-Bangalore
❤Blore-Ernakulam
❤Chennei-Tirunelveli
❤Pondicherry-Vijaywada
Wap 7 and wap 5 all were made in CLW.
But Central govt transferred wap 7 production in Varanasi.
Otherwise every year CLW created records by manufacturing more locomotive than previous year
Thanks for raising my problem ❤❤❤
I don't understand as to how VB's production can affect the production of WAP7 locomotives? ICF is producing VB trains and BLW is producing WAP7s (CLW is only producing WAG9s as of now).
If railways is planning to introduce trainsets for all type of train in future then they may be correct to discontinue production of locomotives. But they should consider building locomotives to cater to the other passenger trains that do not have trainsets. Plus whatever VB sets are being made, we need atleast one spare rake of same capacity.
@@AnubhabKundu
Thank you. I agree with you that we definitely need spares for our existing VBs as currently, we are running them aground. Furthermore, I also think that converting all trains into trainsets is not a good idea. We still need some flexibility. What we are in a dire need of is to have lots of high frequency regional rail routes where there is a lot of demand from daily commuters. Currently, they have no choice but to cram themselves in general coaches of infrequent long distance trains. That also results in long distance trains having unnecessary stops. Now these regional trains should be no frills, high capacity AC MEMUs.
We need to ramp up production of upgraded WAP5 locomotives (around 8,500 to 9,000 HP and weighing around 95 tonnes each) and AC LHB coaches so that most trains can be fully AC (with low cost to the passengers) and have the capability to run beyond 160-180 km/h. (Having Co-Co bogie locomotives run beyond 140 km/h is just plain risky)
WAP7s can be used for the remaining slower trains as existing non AC coaches will only be phased out in the next 20 years.
Very Good Video for Shubham Bhai. ✌👌🏻
Awesome compilation
WAP-7 ki production chal rahi hai but bhaut kam.
Vande Bharat ke saath, WAG-9 ka production bhaut jada bi kar raha hai due to DFC.
Yes this is fake news
Bhai Vandebharat ICF me banti hai aur WAP7 CLW me bante hai....vande bharat's construction cant affect wap7 production
Bro Vande Bharat Self propelled hai Usme Bhi Traction motors lagti hain Jo Loco me hoti hain or Vande Bharat me Normal loco se Jyada Traction Motors hoti hain
WAP-7 AND WAG-9 ARE TWINS WITH ONLY DIFFERENCE IN GEAR RATIO. THEREFORE IT IS BETTER IF WE PRODUCE MORE WAG9H WHICH COULD BE USED FOR ADDIONALLY NORMAL PASSENGER N EXPRESS TRAINS WITH 24-26 COACHES WHERE SPEED REQUIREMENT ARE NOT THERE.
Bhai kuch length of station se bhi matlab hota hai itna Sara couch nahi laga sakte and Max train me 20 se kam coaches hai
hog nhi hai wag9 me or top speed sirf 100 ki hai
Ha bohat din see WAP 7 ka production nehi ho raha he. But iss year kuch locomotive production huya tha BHEL me.
Primary example is Lucknow New Delhi AC Superfast Express , used to run with WAP 7 and now running with twin WDP 4Ds
Railway engineers and officers are meant for rocket design and space execution planning.running railway is low class job for them. One should give Noble prize to rail officers for their decision 🤣🤣
WAP7 ki production rokne ka koi matlab hi nahi banta...
Railways ki kuch decisions bahut hi ajib hota hain
Kam kar diya wap-7 ka kyunki railway ko abhi freight locomotive chaiye. DFC baan Raha hai isiliye
BLW is already producing them BGKT shed recently received some new wap7s
SCR Zone mein Manmad-Nanded Division me Electrification huye 4 Months Ho Gaye lekin Abhi Bhi Trains Diesel Engines par Chal Rahi Hai Due To Lack of Electric Locomotives..
Mene Sachkhand exp ke LP se baat Kiya hai , wo bola 3-4 months time lagela bcz WAP series hi Chalegi SCR me WCAM nahi chalegi.
Sir ji vande Bharat to ICF Chennai me ban Rahi hai. Bharat me jo alag jagah pe rail engine karkhana hai, wo kya kar rahe hai fir?
Yes u r right
please make a video on WAP5 also they are also not seeing nowadays
WAP 5 ko log mano bhul sa gye hai. Aaj dikhta hi nhi 😂😂
WAP-5 actually indian railways k context mein successful nahi hai.
Bechaara WAP5. Usko theek se use hi nahi kiya IR ne.
Indian railway is pura scenario ko seriously nhi le Rahi hai phela wap4 locomotive ka life span khatam huva toh railway wag5,wag7 aur wag9 locomotives par Swift huva aur ab wag5 aur wag7 dono locomotive bhi apni life span ka last stage mai ek baar yeh dono class ka locos unfit honga toh yeh problem aur zayda badegi ,tab aapko wag 12 locomotive ek express/mail trains ko haul karte huva bhi nazar aasakte hai
Wap5 hmesa se kam rhi h,lekin gatiman jaise train ko leke wap 5 he chalti h ar kaafi achi locomotive hai fr b wap 7 ko jyda kyu bnaya gaya h
As Northeast became electrified, the demand of Electric loco is more in NFR and nearby zone. And NF zone has zero E-loco shed earlier.
Kaash fir ek baar diesel locomotives like WDM WDG fir ek chalne lag jaaye
WAG 9H ke ek mixed traffic version jo passenger gadi ko 130-140 speed aur maalgadi ko 100 pe bhaga sake aise locos firse chahiye. Taki us loco ko sare zone me baant diya ja sake. WAG 9 ka gear ratio 5.71 hota hai, WAP 7 ka 3.18 hota hai. Traction motor speed iska 1243 rpm hota hai. Agar naya loco ka wheel size WAG 9 aur WAP 7 ke bich laa de, aur gear ratio ko 3.18 se 5.71 ke bich la dete hai, toh i think a mixed traffic variant is possible to build.
Yes I am expecting WAM 5 or something new name loco
@@thelocopilot4458
What you are saying might be true, too.
Kisi train ka train no kyun change kiya jata hai
Exp GKP YPR EXP pehle 15023 tha abb same train GKP YPR EXP 22533 no se same day same time pe chalti hai?
Bhai, is it me or you have also noticed a significant reduction in the sleeper and general coaches in super fast trains?
CLW ko wap 7 production restart karna chahiye aur sath me push pull me trains ko operate karna chalu karna padega
CLW ka fund Kam kar diya gaya Jaan muchke... isiliye wo apne aap se production nahi kar payega..
BLW making wap 7 now
South Eastern Railway pe 1980s se electrified hai.
Kuch saal pehle bhi eha par WAP4 ka raaj tha.
par aab WAP7 ka raj hai sayad 50 mese 2-3 train o me WAP4 aaur 1-2 train o me WAP5 aur baaki me WAP7
CLW is highly efficient. But because it is in WB, the central government is ignoring.
😂😂😂koi sense hei iss baat ka 😂😂
LHB कोच में बाथरूम की विंडो के निचे ग्रीन कलर की पट्टी को क्यों दिया जाता है और देने इसका कारण होता है 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
CLW is CLW,it stays at its own place.CLW should not be compared to BLW and PLW.Because CLW is the main inventor of WAG-9 and WAP-7 loco,BLW and PLW are making their replica only.
I don't understand why CLW has paused the production of WAP-7 since 2021.
IR is gearing for modernisation. So more VBs are likely than trains with locomotives which increases the operational costs. May be in future new upgraded versions of WAP7 will be manufactured to pull more trains. That's my view.
I am feeling very bad for NFR who have not WAP 7 and WAP 7 zone shed system is completely unbalanced that reason trains like 20866 Puri LTT SF Express and more LHB express trains which train schedule to loco reservals in a junction railway station expect Raipur stations mostly wap7 don't couple reverse direction another offline loco or if wap 7 is available then they attached otherwise they are giving wag 9 loco example 20866 always getting wag 9 from SBP-LTT cause of VSKP WAP7 shortage that WAP 7 pulling from PURI-SBP
The reason why Indian railways is focusing so much on Vande Bharat trains is to improve profitability and reduce cost.
Vande Bharat tickets cost more. So more earning. But apart from that there are other benefits of VB. For example railways can carry passengers in both 1st and last coaches of VB which otherwise goes waste as guatd-luggage-generator car. So now revenue.
VB trains dont require shunting loco in terminal stations thereby simplifying operation.
My guess is IR is betting on VB trains. Other trains can go a little slow with WAG9. In the interim why waste money on WAP7
Very Very good
Bhai alp ki new vacancy ke baare me video banao,last baar 2018 me hi aai thi😢
Actual quantity v btaoge subham Bhai to jada informative video hoge
In my opinion I don't think wap 5 ka number Kam ho Raha hai..
Mei howrah zone mei daily passenger hu. Abhi Jada p5 dikhta hai mujhe. 2/3 sal pahale is zone mei p4 ka number Jada tha.
I think converting from ICF to LHB trains is one of the main reason. As LHB coaches runs at faster speed so they need engine like WAP7 to get that speed, so the demand has increased for LHB rakes to have WAP7 for hailung and this is the reason there is shortage of WAP7..this is my observation..this may be wrong :)
Apko railway minister bana detehain...sare samasya khatam...gazab
True that GZB recently transferred 8-10 p7 to BGKT
it is not reducing. on the contarary it has increased OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. NOW WITH VANDE BHARAT EXP PICKINGUP WAP7 MAY NOT BE NEEDED FURTHER. CLW WILL PRODUCE MODIFIES WAP5 TO BE USED IN A PUSHPULL MODE
I'm a CLW employee ❤
USING MODIFIED WAP-5 WITH TWIN USE AT FRONT N REAR WILL ALIGN IT WITH VANDE BHARAT CONCEPT FOR FUTURE TRAINS. HENCE RAILWAYS DECISION TO SLOW DOWN WAP7B IS IN ORDER
It doesn't make any sense to stop the production of WAP7 if railways is electrifying every route.
Step by step ir adopting MEMU tech in long routes also
WAP 5 aur WAP 7 low h but railways ne WDAP5 locomotive ki production kyu nhi ki?
Don't know about the exact production figures of WAP7 but NWR BGKT shed and Abu road now getting wap-4 and wap-7 in good quantity some railway officials said that uper se order hai 😅 100+ wap7 will get in rajastan nwr division
Nope it will be take 5 years atleast for new shed not easy to getting 100+ locos even Vskp wap7 loco shed have 52 this wap 7 was started at 2016
Electric train me overhead se electric milneke baad bhi pichhe ki taraf generator kyo lagaya jaata he?
Are LP and ALP’s expected to know both diesel and electric operation or they have dedicated persons to operate diesel and electric locos ?
Some have learning of both whereas some have either ac or diesel.
In earlier days loco pilots used to upgrade from diesel to ac so whoever knew ac definitely had diesel also.
But now a days direct ac learning is also provided.
Now in ac there are various types of locos (for example : normal wap/wag, wcam series , wag 12 series)
Here, wcam and wag 12 have a little bit different technology.
So, loco pilots who know ac cannot necessarily drive the other two.
The above requires special learning.
I hope i've answered your question. 😊😊😊
Aapke video upload hone 1 din pehle bhi maine yeh chiz notice ki bhilai ke pass itne kum locomotive kum kaise hogye
Yes, CLW ka Focus WAG9 ke Upar jyada hain kyon ki Railway 100% electrification ke chalate pahale goods traffic ko locomotive supply karna chahta hain
I think railways would have thought wag9 would be used for both passenger and freight operations while wap7 can be used only for passengers trains. Premium trains will be pulled by wap 7, wap 5 or made VB. Others will use wag9. Making non ac VB will remove the need for wap7 locomotive
Kind Of True 🤧
@@thelocopilot4458 they are making only wag9 for the next two years to meet demand of passenger train electrification and dfc corridor.
हलो शुभम मैं जानना चाहता हूं कि WAP 7HS का क्या हुआ. प्लीज़ इसपर एक वीडियो बनाइएगा.
Wap 5 engine my favourite locomotive ❤❤❤❤
What IR needs to understand that the focus should be on increasing the average speed of rest of the trains, as part of Mission Raftaar initiative. For that the production of WAP7 is crucial. A 8000 HP variant of WAP5 should also be in the pipeline. Also, the tracks should be upgraded. They’re giving too much importance to Vande Bharat, which is also running with not very good occupancy on some routes. Not everyone can afford Vande Bharat. And I think, when late running of superfast trains will become a major issue because WAG9 being used to haul passenger trains, then their eyes will open so that they can focus on increasing the production of passenger locomotives.
Matlab itne bade bharat m hum wap7/5 vb exp. Ek sath nhi bana sakte
Govt to chahti hai ki bina nayi factory lagaye sab kaam hojaye kyuki nyi factory m poasa lagega aur paisa nhi profit chahiye jyada govt ko
Convey your message to railway ministry to produce more of WAP7 locomotive
🎉
Now insted of wap 7 i can only see wag 9 in mostly passenger express
WDAP5 locomotive pay video bana sir plg
Shubham bhai, are you really sure that WAP7 production has been stopped?
coz everywhere i see online and in real, I see WAP7 locomotives, especially on Rajdhani, on Shatabdi, on Durontos, etc.
On a route where average speed is 70 or below, using wap7 is a waste of resources.
ideally, even a WAP4 (with valid lifetime) can serve a train on that route much better. but they are being retired.
on CR, even now a lot of trains use WCAM series, which were earlier DC + AC but are now retrofitted to work only on Pure AC. it would be a waste of existing resources to not use those locos, many older ones are used as bankers while others are used for passenger trains but high priority trains like Pushpak and Gitanjali still use WAP7 locos. CR Rajdhani uses two wap7s in push-pull config.
also as i previously mentioned, due to use of single WAG12 instead of dual WAG9s, there are two WAG9s which are now available and are now used separately on two different trains.
nowadays, for plenty of trains, WAG9s are now used where previously WAP7s were used. it does not mean WAP7s are not being produced.
they are just diverted to routes where speed + coach load ( 22-24 coach trains) is needed.
Sir Please Tell me Why WAGC3 Locomotive Failed Even Modi Ji Saw Green Flag For This Loco And This Powerful 10000 HP
I am from bhilai Chattisgarh
Wap 5 and 4 तो उससे भी कम देखने मिल रहा है
Yes Pehle Santragachi(SRC) shed me 58, WAP-7 tha par abhi sirf 26 hi WAP-7 hai....
SRC shed me thoda zyada WAP-7 rakhna chahiye...
3:40 Ye video dekhne ke baad part 2 or 3 dekhne ki kya jarurat hai sab kuch khud hi samajh aa gaya😂
VANDE BHARAT CONCEPT IS APPLICABLE EVERY WHERE . WHETHER IS METRO OR LOCAL TRAINS SETS. SLEEPER VANDE BHARAT ARE ALSO IN THE PIPELINE THEREFORE LHBFICATION ALSO NEED TO BE SLOWED DOWN. ULTIMATELY LHB COACHES (30 YEARS OLD TECHNOLOGY) WILL HV THE SAME FATE AS ICF COACHES.
Locomotive hauled trains will never be completely phased out in favour of EMUs as they have their own advantages.
Bro wap7 kam nahi badh rahe hai because mai aajkal jadatar trains mein wap7 hi dekhta hu
Bhaiya why Railways are mostly in loss. Please reply my question.
due to huge corruption😂😂😂
Why IR is not thinking of next version of WAP . For example WAP8 with 8000 HP as WAG 9 is already coming with 9000 HP.
Yes the wdp4 wdp4d wdp4b wap5 and wap7 production have stopped
bhai sabse jyada wap 7 abhi darbhanga mai aaya hai alag alag jgah se haziipur division samastipur sub division
BLW already processed to make wap7
I did not understand why production of Vande Bharat trains is affecting production ot WAP5/7. Aren't they made in completely different manufacturing plants?
I have another basic question 🙂. Can an electric engine and a diesel engine be configured as push-pull (diesel engine at the back) to give better acceleration?
No unless both the locos are WDAP 5s
I am from Chittaranjan Locomotive Works, CLW stopped producing WAP 7 and all WAP 7 are being produced by DLW, due to political reasons. CLW is now producing only WAP 9. I must say CLW is always being neglected by all political parties. But they forget the immense potential of CLW. Mamta Banerjee created a new unit of CLW in Dankuni which is hardly producing anything and becomes a maintenance unit. Modi govt has given a major blow to CLW and moved the production of WAP 7 to Varanasi (DLW), while it was dedicated to diesel locomotives. CLW is producing more than 450+ locomotives every year and the number is increasing continuously. Govt should allocate more WAP 7 to CLW because it is specialised in production of electrical locomotives.
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Now days I see wag 9 used in passanger trains
WAP5 is very lass nowadays I think WAP5 will extinct till 2030
Subham bhai yar apne mera question ka answer nahi diya tha.rajdhani ke 1st ac me jo facility milta he wahi facilities kya normal superfast train ke 1st ac me milega
I belong from Korba due to shortage of locomotive current mai Ajni ke WAP 7 then Visakhapatnam ke WAP 7 use ho raha hai
Vskp my ECoR zone also facing shortage of WAP-7 that reason WAP 4 or wag 5 pulling trains
BRC Has More Then 200 Unit Of Wap7 Locos
Ab bolna hai 5 mahine ke baad, wap 7 ke alava aur koi loco dikhta hi kyu nahi 😂
I think our beloved Indian Railways have made themselves confused by taking some stupid decisions.
(1) They have stopped or rather discontinued the production of WAP 4, WAP 5 and WAP 7 way back, in fact even before they might have thought about 100 % electrification.
(2) Railways is spoiling WAP 7 by providing it to some non SF ICF trains where it is not required actually and they are giving WAG 9 to some SF LHB trains.
Both the above mentioned situations should be changed in reverse direction. WAG 9 should be allotted to all ICF trains and WAP 7 should be allotted to LHB trains. Because WAG 9 can't run above 100/kmph and by providing WAG 9 to LHB trains, Indian Railways is decreasing the MPS of LHB trains. While ICF trains can't run above 110/kmph anyhow. Hence, WAG 9 or in fact any other freight locomotive like WAG 5 or WAG 7 can be given to them.
(3) Indian Railways is not in the mood to restart the production of WAP 7, WAP 5 and WAP 4 and that is visible. Instead, they are planning to replace all the Rajdhani Express with Sleeper VB Express so that, they will not have to provide WAP 7 to Rajdhani category at least.
But even in this concept they are confused because on the other hand, they are planning to replace all the Rajdhani Express with Tejas rakes. Hence, they will require more WAP 7 in the future 😊😊😊
I agree your opinion but railways have to plan discontinue wap 4 very soon
Although I like WAP4s too, I feel that manufacturing them again won't be a good idea. Their traction technology is quite outdated now.
Do you know one thing guys, the braking system of WAP 4 is even more powerful than WAP 7. In fact, WAP 4 and WAP 5 are almost the same in terms of HP - 5500.
WAP 5 locomotives can't pull more than 18 LHB coaches while WAP 4 can easily pull even 24 ICF coaches. And if you know that ICF coaches are much more heavy than LHB coaches.
So in my opinion, Railways should discontinue WAP 5 locomotives and re-introduce more WAP 4 locomotives.
Mujhe esa nai lagta k wap7 khatam ho rahe hai.. Gujarat me har 2 ya 3 train ka Locomotives WAP7 hi hai. Dusre state ka mujhe pata nai lekin yaha pe to me WAP7 hi dekhta hu wo mail express ho ya intercity superfast ya Shatabdi or double decker express hai sabhi train me WAP7 LOCOMOTIVE HI hota hai.
Yeah, WR has an abundance of WAP7s. It has now become quite boring to be honest. 😅
VSKP WAP7 also 52 units but still shortage & wap7 have zone discrimination they didn't give permission VSKP WAP7 Bhubaneswar Tejas Rajdhani Express remove VSKP WAP7 Bhubaneswar Duronto Express Purushottam Express Bhubaneswar ANVT SF Express and more and most hated things is Vishakapatnam WAP 7 have not permission to DDU route
ANGL Loco shed needs to be expanded now...
@@notcliche14 yes we need wap 7 for ANGUL recently getting 46 wag 9 Locos
Shubham bhaiya, what about wap 5 ? I see them very rarely... i heard many good things about it.. by why are they very less in number as compared to wap 7?
Please come Vadodara and Ghaziabad locomotive wap5
Vande Bharat is a curse for common people in India...due to it LHBfication has decreased a lot!!!
Absolutely and according to A railfan POV its a crap. No door view no de-attachable engine like wap 7 wap 4 etc no sleeper class and berths and all
Also it's fair is high as compared to other express or superfast train normal people don't prefer vande bharat and only have sitting options there
WAP ka new version kab aaiyega
Bhai ek sawal
Sabhi Rajdhani me tejas coaches lag rahe h
Mumbai, agartala and even bbsr rajdhani also now a days.
But still one of the most imp rajdhani Hwh rajdhani me kyu nahi aa rahi h
Subham bhaiya g BHEL v to kar sakti hai manufacturing q ki wag 7 ki manufacturing to kiye hain
N r v manufacturing plants hain jaha locomotive ki manufacturing hoti hai wag 12 bihar me manufacturing hui thi pehle kya ye plants wap 7 ki manufacturing nai kar sakte hain bhartiya rail ko jaroorat hai avi q ki vande bharat ek train set hai n wap 7 etc ek locomotive hai jo trains me lagte hain n avi india me vande bharat train ki sankhya kam hai n orther trains ki jayada locomotive ki manufacturing toh defenatily hogi hi plz sir kripya jaankari dijiye
Bhai WAP 5 bhi kyu nahi dikh raha
Aap to pura railway ki GM ki tarah information dete hain
Buta acchi Bata bati ji
Locomotive ke jagah pe hum train sets hi kyu nahi chalate.