How to Build Fast Cars in Forza Horizon 5 | Building/Upgrade Parts Guide

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  • čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
  • This video covers FH5's class system, how to build around it, and walks through all the upgrades available to most cars, explaining which are the most important to creating a solid build.
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    0:00 Intro
    0:34 Class System
    2:51 Conversions
    5:32 Aero
    6:58 Tires/Rims
    10:04 Drivetrain
    11:17 Platform/Handling
    13:22 Engine
    14:44 Conclusion
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  • @finneas5011
    @finneas5011 Před 2 lety +497

    This is my first Forza game, so I was quite overwhelmed by all of the customization options at first. This video is SO helpful to clear up all these upgrades!

    • @marshi8042
      @marshi8042 Před 2 lety +57

      Note when upgrading, DO NOT rely on the 1 through 10 performance values. They are almost always incorrect. If you switch to where you can see actual statistics as in lateral gs, braking distances, 0-60 and 0-100 times and such, you'll have a better idea of what your car's performance is. Another thing to note is the stability of your vehicle. If you often wheelspin at the start of races and exiting sharp turns, as well as bouncing off the rev limiter, the rear of your car sliding out during braking, especially if you brake through a turn, as well as sliding out during turning. A great number of things account for the stability of your car. Your car can have the best stats, but if it cant handls its own power, its all for nothing.

    • @finneas5011
      @finneas5011 Před 2 lety +4

      @@marshi8042 Thanks for the tips dude!

    • @marshi8042
      @marshi8042 Před 2 lety +5

      @@finneas5011 look up HokiHoshi. He's a youtuber that gets into the thick and thin of tuning. He has plenty of videos for Forza Horizon 5 already. If your car has any of the above mentioned issues, or any others like under and oversteering, you should be able to tend to those problems by following his guide

    • @onjah7773
      @onjah7773 Před 2 lety +1

      Im honestly jealous this gets to be your first forza game

    • @finneas5011
      @finneas5011 Před 2 lety

      @@onjah7773 It's amazing :)

  • @MJTbreww
    @MJTbreww Před 2 lety +809

    Unbeatable AI aren’t a joke this time round from my experience so far

    • @Sebis527
      @Sebis527 Před 2 lety +211

      This game’s expert difficulty feels like FH4’s unbeatable difficulty.

    • @TheTalkedSpy
      @TheTalkedSpy Před 2 lety +129

      Good to see I'm not the only one who noticed this. Back in FH4, I always went for unbeatable because that was the only difficulty that actually provided at least a decent amount of challenge, and I almost always won races with no assists. This time around, I got a measly 7th place at the Mexican circuit with my A90 Supra at the top of A class. I had to go switch to the '98 Supra "Welcome Pack" version and turn the difficulty down to Pro to finally win.

    • @Insignia-pp1eh
      @Insignia-pp1eh Před 2 lety +17

      Yes lol barely beat them and i am a very experienced driver

    • @DanielBoeFlex
      @DanielBoeFlex Před 2 lety +26

      Noticed that too. I just set it to that like I did in FH4 and I got absolutely destroyed in my first couple races. In FH4 they felt like really aggressive Pro or Expert bots, in FH5 they seem to actually just race clean and very very very fast. Makes me look forward to when I can find a way to beat them.

    • @NovaZodiak
      @NovaZodiak Před 2 lety +30

      Man and I felt like I got horribly worse within a day

  • @BubbleVBuddy
    @BubbleVBuddy Před 2 lety +1288

    The A.I in this game really challenge you to have good racing lines and pushing your car to the limit and I love it

    • @BiIlDipperIy
      @BiIlDipperIy Před 2 lety +122

      Hell yeah. I just did the Goliath with a pretty damn quick FXX K but on the straights they just haul major ass 😂. Makes it interesting tho because you have to nail every corner almost perfect.

    • @chefboyarb
      @chefboyarb Před 2 lety +20

      @@BiIlDipperIy I can def vouch for this. I used the x5 which wasn’t fully upgraded and I thinks it’s safe to say I didn’t have a chance on any of the straights. I looked forward and used the most out of the turns to gain distance back

    • @BiIlDipperIy
      @BiIlDipperIy Před 2 lety +17

      @@chefboyarb Yep lol those drivatars got some serious power on them straights 😂. I used the X5 FE which I'm assuming you used too, for another race like the Goliath except I think this was longer tbh.
      I was in like 3rd until about 70% or so just sweating bullets trying to catch the first 2 guys lol. And they were decently fast in the corners too, I had to drive nearly perfect. Definitely the hardest race I've had on forza, I'm impressed with the difficulty so far.

    • @sagejay9816
      @sagejay9816 Před 2 lety +18

      Yea the a.i is crazy they will pass you on the outside racing line I thought I was playing ranked for a second lol.

    • @nite_mckvien8198
      @nite_mckvien8198 Před 2 lety +5

      I noticed that too, Fh5 is feeling like one of their best games so far

  • @Kit_drives
    @Kit_drives Před 2 lety +294

    Flywheel and prop shaft (Driveline) are both drift upgrades, they reduce inertia/resistance between engine and wheels so your revs build faster making it easier to break traction. For that reason it's almost always better not to have them on a track build RWD as they will make the car more prone to wheel spinning out of corners. If you do this build and find your car hard to drive I'd start by removing these so you have more linear power progression.

    • @3eeup820
      @3eeup820 Před 2 lety +8

      Thanks for this information !

    • @gamewarmaster
      @gamewarmaster Před 2 lety +29

      True but once you learn how to control it, those upgrades will let you push your car that much harder without breaking loose

    • @GTAPanos
      @GTAPanos Před 2 lety +5

      @@3eeup820 Wow thanks for the info! That was really helpful, I always removed the flywheel for the small extra weight reduction and I mostly drive RWD so I used to have problems in higher classes.

    • @dyinglight9210
      @dyinglight9210 Před 2 lety

      Ty for this info

    • @tylerporter1170
      @tylerporter1170 Před 2 lety +4

      Dummy here, by prop shaft do you mean drive line?

  • @BiIlDipperIy
    @BiIlDipperIy Před 2 lety +349

    One tiny little thing:
    X class will usually always be hardest because once you reach X there's nothing left.
    For example you could have a car that's classified as X, but just barely..
    Meanwhile a Ferrari FXX K is already S2 and gets to X with like one upgrade, so that car is gonna be much better off than something that barely reaches X class.
    Theres many weird ways to manipulate the PI system.
    I only thought of this because I built the BMW X5 forza edition for extra XP, but couldn't beat any of the hyper cars on my difficulty lol.. So I tuned it down some and changed it to SUVs.

    • @Malficion
      @Malficion Před 2 lety +18

      Have you driven the Sesto Elemento FE? That thing is insane!!!
      Probably the meta X class without equal.

    • @guitarmaxxer
      @guitarmaxxer Před 2 lety +2

      @@Malficion does the forza edition have a different tune like the pre order cars? I still havent used my car token, if its the same ill take a sesto

    • @Malficion
      @Malficion Před 2 lety +40

      @@guitarmaxxer
      No, Forza Edition cars have some kind of quirk.
      The Sesto has WTF level of sticky tires not available to any other car.

    • @preacid3747
      @preacid3747 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Malficion the McLaren F1 gtr seems to still be the best track car from my experience

    • @BiIlDipperIy
      @BiIlDipperIy Před 2 lety +18

      @@Malficion For sure. They're all much faster than the original ones too, without engine swaps. Like the Puma FE has like 800+ HP and weighs 2000lbs lol thing is a monster..

  • @bohdanbilous9
    @bohdanbilous9 Před 2 lety +492

    I wouldn’t say it only for online, because in a single player you can practice your build, earn more credits with higher difficulty and more pleasure to drive the car if it’s nicely balanced.

    • @lukeb_711
      @lukeb_711 Před 2 lety +20

      Facts 👍

    • @HokiHoshi
      @HokiHoshi  Před 2 lety +59

      Very true!

    • @MidnightRobotics
      @MidnightRobotics Před 2 lety +9

      Agreed. The AI is a helluva lot better in this game, so I’ve been using it to practice before I go against real people.

    • @Goldenjews1234
      @Goldenjews1234 Před 2 lety +1

      @@HokiHoshi I was going to say some cars in real life have twincharged engine ie rally version lancia delta s4 which I don't if they simulate something like that. I don't if they would ever add group B car which would be cool too.

    • @brysonmaynard9713
      @brysonmaynard9713 Před rokem +1

      Yeah bro start from the oem configuration and actually build up small upgrades at a time depending on what you need it for, you’ll find you’ll just have more fun in general

  • @samuelpearsall8624
    @samuelpearsall8624 Před 2 lety +13

    I have watched this on my lunch breaks at work, and have typed notes so once I get my internet up and running at home I can properly enjoy building and racing cars. Thank you for helping me understand spacing and rims especially!

  • @nightdrvavenger2087
    @nightdrvavenger2087 Před 2 lety +106

    i litterally heard "esctasy of gold" in my head when u said AWD is not OP anymore 😁

    • @alanrobert3098
      @alanrobert3098 Před 2 lety +11

      To be honest, at the end of FH4 I stopped enjoying AWD and moved over to RWD and they were more fun, sometimes even easier to drive and much cooler. I didn't feel like I was tainting something beautiful.

    • @cole.555
      @cole.555 Před 2 lety +12

      @@alanrobert3098 I also found I improved my racing a lot more while using a RWD car. Not as easy to race with compared to the AWD swaps! This news has got me super fired up that FWD and RWD are a lot more viable online

    • @Rem_NL
      @Rem_NL Před 2 lety +6

      @@alanrobert3098 RWD cars experience a lot less understeer, they also have more PI points available for more power/handling. It is the ultimate reward forza gives players for good throttle control

  • @Joshua-ev9uw
    @Joshua-ev9uw Před 2 lety

    This is by far the best video explaining upgrades to people like me who have spent lots of time in the Forza Horizon games, but not gotten TOO much into the tuning and just pump a bunch of horsepower into it, but this breaks it down and told me a TON I didn't know. Thank you so much!

  • @Paladin1034
    @Paladin1034 Před 2 lety +4

    This is well done and full of good info. I have been tuning my cars since Gran Turismo 1, but it's always a joy to see a good video on tuning.

  • @jakeharrison3239
    @jakeharrison3239 Před 2 lety +19

    Exactly how I've always upgraded in horizon games! Spot on mate

  • @RadioCupcake
    @RadioCupcake Před 2 lety +1

    Been playing forza since fm4 and this is easily the best tuning guide I’ve seen since back then. Thx for the video!

  • @jakeofalltradesj.o.a.t.6197
    @jakeofalltradesj.o.a.t.6197 Před 11 měsíci

    I have watched no less than 15 videos on tuning and this by far is the BEST video. I just used this video to seriously tune my car beyond just upgrades and wow!! Thank you. I just subscribed and will be watching all the video for tuning to get even deeper!

  • @Ninesky1
    @Ninesky1 Před 2 lety +38

    I honestly am one who doesn't care about being competitive and I'd rather reach that by being a good driver, engine/drivetrain swaps are boring to me, I just LOVE to keep the car sound as its meant to be, like in real life, and just fiddle with the rest.
    Most of the custom builds that people post on Forza are all swapped and it gets boring, so I'm here now to learn how to build cars by myself lol.

    • @iceslayer777
      @iceslayer777 Před 2 lety +8

      Same here holy shit, I can’t stand obnoxious maxed out tunes that people make (mostly the stuff that’s installed), but definitely a lot of the skipped tuning. From horrible racing engines, disgusting forza aero part (they hardly increase the PI unless you really are trying to be competitive and want everything out of the car), stupidly wide tires, horrible PI, terrible gearing, and most importantly the handling. With this video, most people who have a good understanding on what’s important in upgrading, which is nice and will allow for more creative tuning set-ups rather.

  • @iceslayer777
    @iceslayer777 Před 2 lety +2

    This video is definitely by far the most helpful one I’ve ever seen on tuning, let alone anything specifically in a horizon game. I can’t wait to one day be able to fully upgrade a car without even having to think and most importantly, the very quick base tuning that’s required to fix the remaining issues. So tired of always having to download a tune just to have something on the car when I can simply upgrade it faster than finding one all the time, especially when it comes to these high powered cars. Oh boy shit gets crazy when it comes to those cars, hardly anybody knows how to tune them properly since they go into X class. Multiple wrong upgrades with any X class car cripples the way it should feel and I honestly can’t stand it. I’ve also watched your basic tuning guide and I feel like it went well past the beginner’s level of stuff, which’ll help me make a relatively solid base/intermediate tune for just about any car. Man I seriously can’t thank you enough for these wonderful guides. It’s always been very confusing to me, especially since I don’t know a whole lot about the technical side of cars besides how they work. 😁

  • @idinfinity
    @idinfinity Před 2 lety +3

    I'm not new in forza but still helped a lot. Improved my previous favorite setup. Thank you!

  • @ealeitz99
    @ealeitz99 Před 2 lety +28

    In A class and below I think its best to use rally tire compound for road racing since most of the time its better than your stock tires and takes waaay less PI than semi slicks or slicks, they actually give pretty good grip no matter what surface you're on and if you dip a tire into the grass or dirt you'll still get close to the same acceleration as if you hadn't which really helps on corner exits if you get pushed wide or you're just trying to use all of the track, also pretty essential for when you're racing in the city that has stone or tile or whatever it is if you don't have a good tire on you will have awful pace around there most likely. Also really good for just quality of life it will give cars that had no grip off road a lot more grip so you can actually take dirt trails now without having totally worthless pace. Extremely versatile tire I think its very underrated right now.

    • @iceslayer777
      @iceslayer777 Před 2 lety +2

      Yea I’m extraordinarily happy to see new differentials, off-road tires, and even different sounds for select engine parts. Makes the feelings very realistic and a lot of them help you tune the car easier which saves hours of our time just for the basics. Also the exhaust is a very cool feature they’ve added!! Going to definitely not use the best one anymore on cars that I don’t care about the performance on or just want the better sound.

    • @ChefofWar33
      @ChefofWar33 Před 2 lety +1

      Good idea bro.

  • @rjt201
    @rjt201 Před 2 lety +14

    For some reason, in previous horizon games, it never dawned on me the importance of tuning a car to the top of its class. I realized this only in forza 5 because the online matchmaking randomizes class and road type for races instead of you choosing what class you want to race in. Before I would just max out a car inevitably to S2 or X and then only want to race in those classes, and now I’ve discovered the creative freedom of tuning different cars for S1, A, B etc races.

  • @roelofversluis6680
    @roelofversluis6680 Před 2 lety

    Man i'm so glad i found your tuning videos. Cant wait to test some ideas out. Also, sweet slide across the finish line there at the end.

  • @michaelcartwright7558
    @michaelcartwright7558 Před 2 lety +1

    the more I understand tuning and upgrades the more fun forza horizon 5 is so thank you for the videos I look forward to watching more

  • @georgejones5019
    @georgejones5019 Před 2 lety +183

    Trying to find a nice entry-level Rally or Cross Country car because the terrain definitely sets the super sports or hyper sports spinning out like crazy.

    • @wotwott2319
      @wotwott2319 Před 2 lety +36

      Ford Escorts are always a good pick.

    • @rashestkhan2878
      @rashestkhan2878 Před 2 lety +44

      Any sti or lancer evo are pretty good too

    • @georgejones5019
      @georgejones5019 Před 2 lety +3

      @@rashestkhan2878 I was looking at the STIs but of the 5 I'm not which one I want to buy.

    • @LAK9
      @LAK9 Před 2 lety +7

      my go to for cross country has always been ford rockstar trophy truck since fh3. only 3 gears to worry about.

    • @leoqu4129
      @leoqu4129 Před 2 lety +16

      @@georgejones5019 Juts like in real life, they are pretty similar. For PI wise, the 2004 started with the lowest PI thus can be consider a better choice to push power build. But the newer version from 2011 and 2015 has wider tyre options , they are all pretty cheap overall. It is very much personal preference here.

  • @maltesko-nw4nf
    @maltesko-nw4nf Před 2 lety +3

    I have never played a Forza game before FH5, and i learned a lot, thank you.

  • @physicsnerd02
    @physicsnerd02 Před 2 lety +90

    In my limited play since it's been available, I find that overselecting tire performance on lower class cars has a much greater penalty than in earlier games, especially in the offroad or rally races. My n=1 example is I improved an AWD car (Nissan Pulsar, love that car IRL) to A800 w/ Rally tires I consistently got blown away on expert, and by switching back to stock and making other improvements to get to A800 I was consistently top 3 on most rally courses.
    Other than that, I think this video perfectly captures my experiences and gives credence to some of the things I had thoughts about but was uncertain with such limited playtime so far.
    I also appreciate the basic tuning video. Kinda glad to lose the formulaic approaches to base tunes, but also kinda wish it was there as the higher difficulty levels are seriously no joke. I had to knock it back to expert, lol.

    • @BiIlDipperIy
      @BiIlDipperIy Před 2 lety +11

      Glad I'm not the only one that feels this way lol. I thought it was just because I was using an SUV (forza edition X5) that they were so much better but honestly the X5 is pretty damn fast.
      I've been building primarily grip builds, I might try out a power build because the AI seem to walk away on the straights..

    • @PlanarianCherald
      @PlanarianCherald Před 2 lety +8

      @@BiIlDipperIy I had the same issue. I kept crafting grip builds that handled great but always left me lacking in speed. Once I started going for speed instead of pure grip, I noticed I was staying at the top of the pack far more often. The bots seem to really turn the heat up if you have nice tires lol

    • @BiIlDipperIy
      @BiIlDipperIy Před 2 lety +3

      @@PlanarianCherald Yep lmaoo I built a 2021 Gt500 that just walks away on straights. I like that they made it more of a challenge. I was sweating bullets trying to stay ahead in the X5M FE on the Goliath race 🤣 I would smoke em on the corners and on the straights they'd just pull away. Makes for really fun racing tho.

    • @mariusjohansen702
      @mariusjohansen702 Před 2 lety +1

      Can't remember what car I had but putting slick tires on it put it at like s1 890 ish, which was a 200ish upgrade on PI compared to doing other stuff

    • @BobbersDown
      @BobbersDown Před 2 lety

      Huh I will try that when I get home, because I built high grip on an Audi for rallying, and was getting left in the dust.

  • @MrS0UL34TER
    @MrS0UL34TER Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for this upgrade video and also your tuning video. I watched both of them
    This is my first forza game and of course i looked on youtube to see what other people are doing so maybe i can learn a thing or two. I stumbled upon this ar12 guy and watched a few videos but the tuning he did was just really weird and never worked for me, so i just downloaded the tunes from other players. These videos really helped as a guideline and i cant wait to try them out myself.
    Good content keep it up :)

  • @RAZORBACKParadise
    @RAZORBACKParadise Před 2 lety +19

    With AWD if you increase the rear tire width and add the forza rear wing then you drop PI with every vehicle and very useful for squeezing extra hp into your build

  • @mr.j.martinez
    @mr.j.martinez Před 2 lety

    I like how you're able to explain the tuning concept for people that are new to the franchise

  • @the.real.johnwick273
    @the.real.johnwick273 Před 2 lety

    Watching your videso is a very fun expirience. Great explanations and very well broken down sections makes them feel very informative and easy to follow. I will apply everything ive learned in this video later tonight. Keep it up my dude!!

  • @boost91
    @boost91 Před rokem +2

    Your videos are helpful to even veteran players like myself! I was in a top 5 online team in FH4 (99.9% bc my team was so good) and I've done a lot of tuning... I learned how wrong I was doing it from your videos... Lol... So thx and cheers!

  • @u4icdissonance180
    @u4icdissonance180 Před 2 lety +5

    I'm new to tuning (and upgrading beyond the auto upgrade system) and your guide is a huge help thank you! I'll comment on the tuning video if my rally Aventador turns out good :p.

  • @Kenpai_TDG
    @Kenpai_TDG Před 2 lety +7

    Incredibly well done tutorial probs ma dude this must have been a TON of work!

  • @hipindie7363
    @hipindie7363 Před 2 lety +34

    I try to make a summary note of Hoki's upgrade guide (kinda rearrange the chapter), so here it is
    The cars' class is shown as letters (e.g. A, B, C, and so on)
    #
    Performance index (PI) is shown as the number beside the cars' class
    #
    For multiplayer:
    >
    Maximize the PI within the class you're in (e.g. 800 for A, 700 for B, and so on)
    #
    For singleplayer:
    >
    PI and class don't matter
    __________
    #
    The priority of upgrade are:
    Unlocking tuning option
    Tires
    Suspension
    Transmission
    Brakes
    Clutch
    Adjustable arrow (If needed)
    Reducing weight
    Engine
    #
    Make sure to tune after upgrading
    ________
    #
    Transmission
    >
    Unlock tuning option
    >
    Sport transmission is the way to go
    >
    Upgrade to race transmission if you need extra gear, have the pi to spare, and want to tweak the individual gearing ratio
    #
    Differential (diff)
    >
    Unlock tuning option
    >
    Use race or rally diff for the corresponding
    >
    Use off-road diff only for dedicated off-road build
    #
    Clutch
    >
    Valuable for manual clutchless and auto
    >
    Pay attention to shift time change
    #
    Driveline
    >
    final pi tweak
    >
    drop weight and rev faster
    _____________________
    #
    Brakes
    >
    unlock tuning
    >
    Race brakes are expensive but worth it
    #
    Spring and dampers
    >
    unlock tuning
    >
    use race or rally suspension
    >
    improve handling
    #
    Antiroll bars (ARB)
    >
    unlock tuning
    >
    upgrade both front and rear
    #
    Chasis reinforcement
    >
    add one level of chassis reinforcement for each class increase
    >
    valuable for an old car when you add a lot of power to it
    #
    Weight reduction
    >
    Increase handling
    >
    Choose between this or adding power
    ___________
    >
    Only important for A-class and above
    #
    Rear wing
    >
    Only use if it lowers PI or is really needed
    >
    unlock tuning
    #
    Front bumper
    >
    upgrade only if the car is understeering too much
    >
    unlock tuning
    ______________
    >
    Important upgrade
    #
    Tire compounds
    >
    use rally, offroad, or drift for the corresponding build
    >
    Just use the stock for AWD
    >
    RWD and FWD use at least one upgrade
    #
    Front tire width
    >
    Upgrade if the car understeer (especially on fwd)
    #
    Rear tire width
    >
    Max rear tire width
    #
    Rim style
    >
    Final PI tweak
    #
    Rim size
    >
    increase car response
    #
    Wheel spacing
    >
    help handling and grip
    >
    For RWD leave the front spacing stock
    >
    More rear spacing promotes understeer and more front spacing promote oversteer
    _______________
    #
    Engine swap
    >
    only upgrade if you're trying to push the car into a class
    #
    Drivetrain swap
    >
    Just use stock
    #
    Aspiration swap
    >
    Preferably leave it to stock
    #
    Body kit
    >
    Final tweak
    ______________
    >
    save for the last upgrade
    >
    Intake & exhaust is highly valuable
    >
    Oil/cooling is valuable if you use a turbo or supercharger
    _____________
    That's all, if there are any mistakes make sure to let me know & if it's helpful give it a like ;)

  • @Doc_Hollladay
    @Doc_Hollladay Před 2 lety +2

    man this some good stuff - although i'm a solo player it will be fun to learn collect cars and try different things...thanks so much for this dude

  • @letrface_8596
    @letrface_8596 Před 3 měsíci

    I'm loving your attention to detail and how you explain stuff.🎉

  • @chrisnelson6991
    @chrisnelson6991 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for your informative videos. Your tuning guide in general was extremely helpful. You earned that like and subscribe from me.

  • @QuietStormGaming
    @QuietStormGaming Před 2 lety +2

    Fantastic video as always! LETS GO!

  • @vakostyle
    @vakostyle Před 2 lety

    Your videos are truly amazing. Thank you it’s much appreciated.

  • @KenWiggerAnotherAncientGamer

    Thanks for the hints & tips!

  • @xenooseater6124
    @xenooseater6124 Před 2 lety

    Ty so much bro, couldn't find a video that explained this

  • @positivevibegaming2011
    @positivevibegaming2011 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video Hoki, learned alot

  • @bazter
    @bazter Před 2 lety +1

    This is gold, thank you!

  • @brianhannon
    @brianhannon Před rokem

    I built out the old Miata A class using these tips. It's consistently a top 3 car. Thanks for the info!

  • @TwistedLiquid
    @TwistedLiquid Před rokem +2

    Subscribed , Liked and Commented. Thank You!

  • @tomiathisflex7706
    @tomiathisflex7706 Před 2 lety

    This is the youtube channel i need :D Thank you!

  • @IrnFox
    @IrnFox Před 2 lety +1

    FINALLY someone explains class system to players! So many time I got team mate in team race (FH4) who has S803 car...

  • @nBasedAce
    @nBasedAce Před 2 lety

    I am, admittedly, more of a Fast and Furious style of driver but with your help I am getting better. I already have pages of notes just from this video. Next, tuning.

  • @myless789
    @myless789 Před rokem

    I have never seen a game with such in depth customization and running as foza H5. All of it made my head spin a little tbh but your visor was very helpful. Thanks!

  • @pfunkle
    @pfunkle Před 2 lety +1

    Great video, Hoki! I am many times guilty of upgrading everything to maximum and pushing C and B cars into S1 or S2, then wondering why I'm getting left in the dust :D My favorite cars and tunes are the ones I upgraded within their starting class (Maybe a class above). They drive so naturally when they are within the bounds of their chassis. One of my favorite FH4 tunes was a '94 Supra upgraded to A class, stayed RWD with around 600-700 hp. Off the line sucked (lol) but cornering was so much fun living on the edge of grip and using a bit of oversteer. I started that tune based on your FH4 tuning guide and tweaked it from there. Thanks for all the content you post. It's awesome!

  • @weswes4187
    @weswes4187 Před rokem

    CZcams has to be one of the best ideas ever put into existence...
    Thank you for making this video!!!

  • @chillymonkeys7772
    @chillymonkeys7772 Před 2 lety

    Very helpful video. Thanks 👍🏻

  • @brodaciousmax8025
    @brodaciousmax8025 Před rokem

    Great vid. Nice job explaining.

  • @darleenrivera9319
    @darleenrivera9319 Před 2 lety

    thank you... best videos I've seen.. just starting out in forza

  • @Kamo442
    @Kamo442 Před rokem

    Thanks i learnt a lot dont really know much about forza so this will now increase the fun i can have

  • @Dragonlord826
    @Dragonlord826 Před 2 lety +8

    when playing solo i usually drive cars bone stock not even tuning it's actually really fun imagining what it would feel like driving these irl

    • @spandel100
      @spandel100 Před 2 lety

      Thats what I do as well.I only tune cars that I need for a challenge.

    • @MrSirGiuseppe
      @MrSirGiuseppe Před rokem

      This is how the game should be imo..the cars that I have driven or been in irl do have similar mannerisms until upgraded. Not on a level of something like assetto but good for what it is. I just want motorsport to come out already.

  • @nichaos6513
    @nichaos6513 Před 2 lety

    It was really helpful bro thanks a lot ❤️❤️

  • @General_RIMT
    @General_RIMT Před rokem

    Thanks for the tips!

  • @TheCptPepper
    @TheCptPepper Před 2 lety

    Again, amazing video!

  • @LennarthAnaya
    @LennarthAnaya Před 2 lety +6

    Finally, useful content not intended to spoil events in the game. I have asked CZcams not to show me a lot of youtubers I was following up.

  • @kimmern999
    @kimmern999 Před 2 lety +36

    When it comes to weight reduction, I usually go for it on heavy cars, and rather go for more power on medium weight - lighter cars. Heavy cars are really lumbering if you keep stock weight.

  • @tpaelo2926
    @tpaelo2926 Před 2 lety +19

    I usually pay more attention to acceleration. You rarely ever reach the top speed in a race, a fast 0-60 and 0-100 time is what I go for. A car that has a top speed of (theoretically) 167 with a 0-100 of say 6 or 7 seconds will be more competitive than a car with a top speed of 190 wth a 0-100 of 10 or 11 seconds in a race where you never reach 120-130 during the race. A car with a fast acceleration time and good braking can move through corners faster and accelerate ate into the straights quicker. Balance that with good handling and you have a winner.

    • @peterxdr
      @peterxdr Před 2 lety +4

      Basically for road/circuit racing, acceleration, handling, braking matters the most, forget about top speed and offroading capabilities.

    • @giggity4670
      @giggity4670 Před 2 lety

      A good car for you to try is the Ford GT 2017 great S1 class apex racer it good brakes and acceleration for corner's handles easy and has the good speed for straight's it is my go to for apex races was on FH3 but on FH4 was crap but now it is good again like FH3.

  • @2pacmg42
    @2pacmg42 Před 2 lety

    I rly enjoing your content and waiting for more guides :)

  • @skartimusprime4779
    @skartimusprime4779 Před 2 lety

    Oops man I swap engines a lot. Pretty much every 4cyl I try and get that rally i4 I freaking love it. Learned some stuff here, I do a few things wrong but mostly right. I'm so glad you do performance last because I've often thought maybe I'm making slow cars and doing majority into power ends up better but terrible to drive. I really like pointy light cars that hug the road so I always tune to that, but I do a few things you said not to do; ill call that free performance for my next build. Super happy to hear RWD is back, I hate feeling like I need to do AWD.

  • @spirovarelis9637
    @spirovarelis9637 Před 2 lety +6

    Removing weight is the most important, for engine upgrades I always do the mods that remove weight first.

  • @honghungho9818
    @honghungho9818 Před 2 lety +2

    Wow 2 guiding videos in a same day. Thanks a lot. Can you make another video to explain torque along with hp, i heard you mention them alot in your gearing guide for FH4 but not understand much. Your videos are very informative, love them

    • @Jaxan-dq2jy
      @Jaxan-dq2jy Před 2 lety +3

      Torque is how strong the engine is and horsepower is the limit of the engine
      Torque = acceleration
      Horsepower = top speed

    • @MoosyPineappleMan
      @MoosyPineappleMan Před 2 lety +2

      Power is the energy output of the engine, you always want to maximize this as the higher this is the more you accelerate, torque is essentially how flat the power curve will be, the more flat the more consistent your acceleration will be over your rev range.

    • @iceslayer777
      @iceslayer777 Před 2 lety

      @@MoosyPineappleMan Power can also increase top speed as you need a significant amount of it to keep the car accelerating with the high winds and rolling resistance. Another great way of thinking about torque is how much force in Newtons the tires are able to output into the ground maximum for every meter of travel.

  • @SSmallwood
    @SSmallwood Před 2 lety +1

    a good mix of speed and grip is essential! i made a r32 b class destroyer a few days ago and it shred most cars is the straight but everything through the corners. for a class the daytona is still just so good

  • @jackbellinger8679
    @jackbellinger8679 Před 2 lety +9

    "C-Class Ford Escort that you upgrade into S1." Called me out directly, lmao. My first S1 rally was an Escort and while I loved it, I slowly realized it was a nightmare to drive. I'm better now, I promise.

  • @Player_Redacted
    @Player_Redacted Před 10 měsíci

    Getting into this game a year after this video and I'm about to take notes. I know nothing about cars, but boy am I about to learn.

  • @billiemack64
    @billiemack64 Před 2 lety +6

    Just noticed how the wing flexes as you accelerate. This game is dope

  • @unikk_963
    @unikk_963 Před 4 měsíci

    thank you for usefull tips 😍😍

  • @hammatime94
    @hammatime94 Před 2 lety

    This is a great detailed and in depth video. I like it even though I hate BMW great work✌

  • @abdelrahmanelwardany9595

    Man
    You are the Best 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @emmetblanchette6496
    @emmetblanchette6496 Před 2 lety +1

    might be the most comprehensive youtube video i've ever seen

  • @DylanDavid
    @DylanDavid Před 2 lety

    Some trials and the Horizon Arcade events are exceptions for multiplayer content where each player could use a car from different class systems.
    That being said, good video, its very helpful. Thank you!

  • @stupidstormy36
    @stupidstormy36 Před 2 lety +1

    You're build process is strikingly similar to my own.

  • @ClintonDAshley
    @ClintonDAshley Před 2 lety +90

    AWD killed Horizon 4 for me. Really hoping RWD / FWD is more competitive online this time around.

    • @DamnedSilly
      @DamnedSilly Před 2 lety +29

      It's always been competitive but required a lot more driver skill (even the smallest mistakes were painful) but my time with F5 has made it pretty clear 2WD options, at least on pavement, are viable again. Offroad you're still going to suffer, but that just how physics work.

    • @henrik1743
      @henrik1743 Před 2 lety +3

      Lol, AWD has ALWAYS been "overpowered" in Forza games, it goes back to Forza 4 day, yes, not the horizon 4, forza 4.

    • @Jokerboy1410
      @Jokerboy1410 Před 2 lety +29

      So physics killed reality for you too? AWD just has more traction and sacrifices top speed for acceleration. RWD allows higher speed but requires you to drive PERFECTLY. It’s not the games fault that you want to use RWD but don’t accept that it is unforgiving if you are not Michael Schuhmacher

    • @me6057
      @me6057 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Jokerboy1410 nice bro, someone with common sense now, people don’t understand that lol.

    • @xQzew
      @xQzew Před 2 lety +18

      @@Jokerboy1410 I think we all understand the basics of awd vs 2wd, what I think op is referring to is the fact awd converting a 2wd car in forza is kinda overpowered with the amount of grip and accel it provides with very little cost to PI. Awd/v12 swapping everything just to stay “competitive” is literally getting boring..

  • @dezmeriahheal2926
    @dezmeriahheal2926 Před 2 lety +7

    They should make it so you can adjust the front aero with a body kit just like you can with the rear. It would make sense because the splitters look adjustable most of the time.

  • @srgTAVI
    @srgTAVI Před 2 lety

    Thanks for your help ^^

  • @not2muckinfuch612
    @not2muckinfuch612 Před 2 lety

    HokiHoshi, the Sensei of fast car builders! I like it a lot! :-)

  • @DiaborMagics
    @DiaborMagics Před 2 lety

    Thanks! Funny that you don't even mention the stat numbers 1 - 10 like speed, handling etc. I guess they don't matter as much as I thought. I always built with those as a guideline. If a car handles like crap I try to get handling up while not compromising too much on speed. But I never really knew what I was doing, so this is a big help.
    I shouldve watched this before your tuning guide. I've been tuning crap upgrades :D

  • @richardlittle9598
    @richardlittle9598 Před 2 lety +1

    I love this guy

  • @JamoonXerxesSauber
    @JamoonXerxesSauber Před 2 lety +2

    Your videos are awesome and so informative. It's my first horizon games and it's a mixed bag for me tbh. Overall the game is amazing but online is soul destroying at times. As far as tuning goes I feel like I'm studying for a degree, I try to put good tunes together but I still seem to be so much slower than everyone else even if I'm driving really clean (opponents seems to drift out of corners in street races, spewing tire smoke and are still faster??). Never had this issue in Forza Motorsport games. Ive not even come close to winning a race with my own tune in horizon so far, and if I have it's only down to making less mistakes than other players. I can complete a race cleanly; a guy will miss two checkpoints during the race,overtake me both times and still beat me even with same PI number. Hopefully I will get better with your videos.

  • @andreashunter4513
    @andreashunter4513 Před 2 lety

    Your content has hugely improved my enjoyment of this game. So first of thanks so much. Question on this - maybe it's my cover of cars, but usually find I'm upgrading at least one or two classes (I'm really enjoying A class, S1 class rivals teaching). It's often difficult to do this without either adding power AND reducing weight, or changing engines etc. Can't seem to increase classes using the basics of this guide. Any thoughts? Engines first? Just max everything?

  • @CotyBasa-Oahustate808
    @CotyBasa-Oahustate808 Před 2 lety +3

    I usually stick between 300-800hp and will always choose grip over power when it comes to track racing because momentum. As far as drag racing, LS swap the world and send it

  • @Loothansa
    @Loothansa Před 2 lety

    Love the Colin Chapman quote. I find power to generally be the better option for RWD cars though. Weight reduction affects rear end grip on power too much for my liking.

  • @stonedtaurus5244
    @stonedtaurus5244 Před 2 lety +1

    Do you any more in depth tips on like drag or drift setups? You have been the best help to me on this game and FH4.

  • @TheUnseenWaffle
    @TheUnseenWaffle Před 2 lety

    For awd I find if you adjust both tire psi to 31.0 it is more comfortable. Also tune the differential deceleration value for front and back to 100%

  • @DirEnGay
    @DirEnGay Před 2 lety

    I'm not ashamed to say that I'm a complete noob at this game and franchise overall, haven't really taken a racing game seriously since the first 3 Gran Turismo games, and I really don't know much about cars in general but for some reason I was so excited to play this game and I haven't put it down yet, I'm loving it. I've been completing the map at my own pace and I've done the seasonal content, some challenges and taken it online a few times too. Online is a whole other level though. Tuning and the performance it offers outside of just seeing the arrow go up is just way over my head as of right now I've been using other peoples builds typically trying to find ones at 5 star rated if possible and even after I apply them and race online there's always a few guys that can leave me in the dust on straights and fly around every corner lol. I don't think I'm bad at actually playing the game, I rarely make mistakes or crash into barriers, I rarely miss checkpoints or have to rewind but I maybe play too safe and I'm not picking competitive cars.
    I think the best thing for me is to keep watching videos like this closely, get an idea of the car tier list and if I struggle too much to make my own build I may start to look at resources online that will do a step by step per vehicle how to get the most out of them, because it feels like the random ones I pick on the game from other players seem to always underperform.

  • @gr4mas144
    @gr4mas144 Před 2 lety +1

    4:00 awd swaps isn't soo OP, finally some good news, music to my ears

  • @serwalkerofthekeynes8761

    Unbeatable, this time around it actually does what it says on the tin 🤣

  • @bxnny5861
    @bxnny5861 Před 2 lety

    putting this into my bookmarks for when i get fh5 in the steam summer sale

  • @jodyestevens9911
    @jodyestevens9911 Před 2 lety +4

    i consider myself a horizon veteran but even so there is definitely loads of useful game specific info in here and it helped quite a bit

    • @Jaxan-dq2jy
      @Jaxan-dq2jy Před 2 lety

      There is always more to learn! :)

  • @antony_csndvl
    @antony_csndvl Před rokem

    Thanks, my Sentra nismo can go speedy boy now

  • @tturi2
    @tturi2 Před 2 lety

    I find the clutch upgrade helps when you release the clutch on the Man+clutch setting, I try to hit the upshift and clutch at the same time and I find my car pings the limiter more often with the stock clutch, it's a shame the race gearbox doesn't give you a dog ring and strain guage option

  • @joshuanissen8803
    @joshuanissen8803 Před 2 lety +7

    @5:10 I wish I had this advice with my real car back in the day lol.

  • @HG504X
    @HG504X Před 2 lety +85

    The AI this time round is more challenging I've found, normally I'm on unbeatable but had to turn it down to pro or even expert. AI literally is stuck to the driving line and there is still rubber banding.

    • @wideboi_porsche
      @wideboi_porsche Před 2 lety +3

      I've been having the same issue, in FH4 I was always on Unbeatable, and I almost always won, but in FH5 there is always two cars way off in the distance and it's almost impossible to make any ground, even taking the best lines I can. However, I've found that if you have a very well tuned car, or good stock car, you can win quite often. I've found the BAC Mono & Lamborghini Centenario are pretty good cars stock. The BAC is best at circuits since it has a low top speed & great grip in corners, and the Lambo is a very good all-rounder.

    • @wyatturner6934
      @wyatturner6934 Před 2 lety +1

      @@wideboi_porsche A class napalm nova with mild slick racing tires is actually a really really fun car or at least the way I have it setup.

    • @giggity4670
      @giggity4670 Před 2 lety +2

      Something is wrong with the AI drivatar the last update they said they tweaked it but you can still tell it is like it is cheating as seen them act like they are on a glued track one was going a bit sideways but acting like it was going full speed straight and when you get close it like they have NOS and boost off. The main thing I notice in lap races the AI goes all out cheat mode till the second lap and then it turn off and they act normalish and on sprint after 35% of the race it goes back to normal and cheat mode is off has anyone else noticed that or is that just me.

    • @seeingeye14
      @seeingeye14 Před 2 lety +1

      @@giggity4670 yeah they can go round tight corners from inside of track without going wide or sliding and virtually like a 90 degree angle, impossible physics it is BS.

  • @coolin9000
    @coolin9000 Před rokem

    Thanks for all your help bro I'm trash but I'm getting better lol

  • @XiroKohi
    @XiroKohi Před 2 lety

    I just starting to play the game, kinda overwhelmed with type of content, build, and even races event, but now i found what i really like/want to do in the game
    This "Class Race" and with this upgrade to the limit of that class is awesome!
    It's like a puzzle and not just slap every custom engine you have and make a B car to S car
    Really great video

  • @Bradpear
    @Bradpear Před 2 lety

    if you nit pick you find that intake and exhaust are usually the least valuable if you look at the PI value compared to bhp increase value

  • @SupaRush
    @SupaRush Před 2 lety +5

    i keep running out of credits because I keep buying cheap cars and upgrading them to s1,s2, maxed out tiers with fastest 0-60 and speed. So much fun upgrading funny looking cars and seeing them blaze past everything

  • @MrDickhead47
    @MrDickhead47 Před 2 lety

    I always did cams if I could and always seemed to be slower than others online. I stopped doing cams, focused more on acceleration and launch and started winning. Also I found that using rally tires for road racing worked well and gave me extra PI to ply with, and off-road tires for rally/off-road. There are certainly meta cars online, but once I learned how to kinda cheat the pi system is when I was building fast cars. Best example is for b class online, off-road tires for everything, they feel like slicks caus the cars aren’t fast enough.

  • @killer2931
    @killer2931 Před 2 lety

    A lot of the widebodies come with adjustable front aero as a part of the kit. The Mk4 Supra and the Evo X are like this.