I think Mike knows this. But in his defense, Will apparently didn't reach out to him either during all those months. I think that when someone moves out of town, then it should be mainly his responsability to try keep the friendship alive. But instead, Will expected like always for Mike to take the initiative and had a jealous response to his relationship with El. So I think the main issue here is that Will deep down wants more than just friendship with Mike. This then leads to unrealistic expectations, jealousy and this disconect then leads to an overall awkward tension.
@@speedy3702 We don't technically know how often Will reached out. Mike is being flippant during the conversation. Friendship is a two-way street, so they both should have reached out to each other. I agree with you that the person who moves should make more of an effort to keep the friendship going. If Will didn't put in much effort to reach out to Mike then he shouldn't blame Mike so much. I doubt Will didn't reach out though. He cares too much to have not reached out
@@Sanjali04 True, we don't know how often Will reached out. So I also don't think it's fair to decide who is more at fault for the situation. And the same way as it's unlikely that Will hasn't reached out to Mike a few times, I also find it unlikely that Mike has reached out to him less times than Lucas, Dustin or Max have. I think the difference is just that since Will has clearly deeper feelings for Mike, he has unrealistic expectations towards him and therefore gets easily hurt when those expectations are not met. For example, the awkward hug fail at the airport was for Will reason enough to not give him the paining. If he had given it, then maybe Mike would have felt guilty for not having brought a present himself and maybe there would have been a slightly different dynamic between them. But the way as things unfolded, Will got annoyed about being a third wheel and Mike got annoyed by his negative attitude.
@@pau7886 And Will previously said that he was being a jerk and that he "deserved it". So all this was just about them finally owning up to their mistakes, instead of just blaming the other. So when it comes to what went wrong between Mike's & Will's relationship, I think that both of them were at fault. Mike is indeed to blame for letting his relationship with El having negatively affect his friendships. However, Will is also to blame for never having been really supportive of Mike's & El's relationship, unlike for example Lucas tried to be in S3. Notice how Mike & Will finally bonded in Episode 4 when Mike talked about his fight with El and Will offered some encouraging words. Immediately in the scene after that, Mike then apologized to El about how he is being acting. So I think that this type of relationship support has been previously always missing from Will's side, which also contributed to things becoming awkward between them.
Bro it's not even the fact that the hug with Will was awkward. It was the fact that everybody made the whole room awkward for no reason. Goes to show how they've really grown apart, even Will and Johnathan.
@@eyi768 People counted the awkwardness of Will and Mike as Will being gay, but it was just that Will missed his best friend. He got stuck in the upside down and Mike still cared more for El and it showed. Then he just wanted their friendship to repair, but they were too distant to make up. Mike obviously makes things awkward, and Will doesn’t know how to solve it, and Jonathan and El have been distant from Will too.
@@plmdea They literally did a 180 on Johnathan's character as if he's just a dumb character from the 80's (which is ironic) but then there's not even an explanation why.
@@eyi768 There is an explanation, it's called PTSD. Everyone deals with it differently. At this point, all of these characters have massive amount of PTSD.
That hug where Mike just rejects it and pats Will on the shoulder breaks my heart. Like, that's your best friend since childhood and you haven't seen him in forever :(
As someone who grew up in the 1980s, it was my experience that guys don't hug. It was seen as really weird to do that and you get labeled "gay" which was one of the worst stigmas to have at the time. You might find that weird or stupid, but it's how it was and as a presumably heterosexual male, Mike is probably really weirded out by the whole thing, but doesn't want to completely lose his friendship with Will, so he tolerates it.
@Carly Vandabout when the bullies were recording El at the roller rink it shows the date, 22nd March and with the Duffers attention to detail I don’t think that was an accident. I think Vecna finds Will in Vol 2 and is gonna use it against him 😞
@@ozboz-roblox363 that actually makes it more depressing, even the _writers_ forgot poor Will’s birthday! I hate how such an important character in S1 and S2 has been pushed so far into the background! I seriously hope the Duffers have done this on purpose because Will is gonna have a much bigger role to play in Vol2 and S5. If not it’ll be such a waste of a character and talent since Noah is an awesome actor 😞
@@Camilla550 yeah because the writters are too damn obsessed with Joe Keery and giving Steve Harrington all the damn screens time and storylines that other characters get left out lol
What if them going to rink o mania was for will's birthday? And also they were gonna watch a movie the day after. Maybe this was a gift for his birthday?
Same with me right now and the boy I like who is my best friend we havent talked in so long but he is supposed to be coming to visit me but im scared hes not gonna come and I will have a breakdown.
What happened to Mike? He was such a caring character the first seasons and now he is really annoying. I miss Mike. Will and El deserve so much better (specially Will please let him be happy 🥺)
Mike is still a very caring character. His main flaw is just that he sometimes oblivious to what the people around him are feeling (I guess he got that from his parents). But when he gets it, there is nobody who cares more than he does.
@@shannenknudsen2608 tbf its because he was stressed because He thought they were gonna find will and they thought he was dead when they "found him in the lake"
0:17 did anyone noticed El's expression when she read 'From Mike'. Reminded me when later she pulls out the letters to point out that Mike never said Love you to her
its probably because he doesnt know how to show love because he never got loved properly by his own parents. I think hes just nervous to say it to her face because in s3 he says it outloud
I love Mike, but he's the definition of gaslighting in this season. I feel like,just like finn said himself, he has this idea that things will just stay the same and since eleven is coming into her own and Will is showing sings of linking him, he just chooses to undereact to things and pretend that the whole world overreacts.
He was right because Will could have reached out more also and Eleven is Mike's girlfriend so ofc Mike is gonna call her more then Will. You all just hate on Mike because you dont like his character
@@Kenyagirly yeah but it’s still not fair that he didn’t talk to Will at all yeah of course he’s gonna talk to his girlfriend more but that still doesn’t mean he should ignore Will, just because he has a girlfriend doesn’t mean he can’t talk to Will
if anyone’s curious, Mike thinks Will is gay. In season 3, Mike says to Will, “it’s not my fault you don’t like girls”. You can tell Mike goes in for the “bro” handshake when he first sees Will but is thrown off when Will goes for the hug. Not at all saying Mike is homophobic, i believe he just has the common misconception that “all gay guys are attracted to other guys” and thinks Will likes him or might get it confused on their relationship and where they stand.
i think that ur right but in fairness, will DOES like him lmfao and im pretty sure mike has noticed. when theyre digging and will is staring at mike, mike gets all weird and keeps digging and pretends like nothing is happening.
@@ChromeM I am not sure of that. I just think it’s more like he looks up to Mike. He is the one who insisted on looking for him when Will disappeared in season 1.
I soneties feel so bad for Will. Like in season 3 how Mike and Lucas ignored him and didn't want to spend time with him anymore like old times. And he went through so much like being kidnapped from the demogorgon and being possessed from the mind flayer. And how Mike called him a douchebag for nothing and being a jerk to him. True, Will should have stood up for El when Angela humiliated her in public but he just stood there doing nothing. But if you were in that situation, you wouldn't know how to handle it or what to do at that exact time since it happened so fast. But yeah Will one of my favourites.
Is it just me or is Mike seeming nervous with Will here? Refusing to give him a hug and just awkwardly pats him. Looking over and being like "u-um what's that?" And then a short "cool" looking dead at him. Theres something going on thay he's not saying. Dont know if its because he knows Will likes him and is trying to deal with it or if he likes Will?
I think the failed hug was just a misundestanding. If you look at Mike's hand gesture at the beginning, then you can see that he was going for a "bro handshake", while Will was going for the hug. The result was then this painfully awkward pat on the shoulder. And as for the "what's that". Well, I think this was supposed to be a conversation starter from Mike's side. But since Will was hurt by the failed hug, he said that it's nothing, which killed the conversation and made things awkward again.
Could be true, Noah said he ships it which could be a hint and the writers confirmed that we’d be getting clarification on his sexuality next season apparently also that would be entertaining to watch
if he was alone he would probably cry. i mean he was so exited to see mike. his hand was shaking literally while waiting him. And after he get a half hug when he want to hug, and he is the third wheel of a very VERY awkward date 💀
Mike in Seasons 1-2: Will is my best friend and I'm worried about him. Eleven is cool and I like her. Mike in Seasons 3-4: All I care about is Eleven and nothing else. Oh yeah, Will.......you're here................
I cannot get over how the airport scene and the roller rink scene (before El gets bullied again) are literally the happiest moments of Vol 1. Those YELLOW FLOWERS THOUGH ❤❤❤ I LOVE IT ❤❤
NOOOOO. WILL WANTED TO GIVE HIS BEST FRIEND A HUG. U CAN TELL HE WAS SO EXCITED STOP IMMA CRY. MIKE GIVE HIM A HUG ALREADY NOT JUST A STUPID PAT ON THE BACK 😭
Mike have always been able to hug Will before he even held his hand in s2 and he hugged him and they did a whole 360 hug at the end of s3. Now he can barely even look at him. Hm. Explain yourself Mike? 🧐
Y’all do realize it’s the 80’s right? Most gays still weren’t allowed/ supported Mike doesn’t have ill intentions on ignoring Will, but what does Mike look like for him to call a man everyday in the 80’s, HE WOULD LOOK HOMOSEXUAL. Everyone is forcing the Byler situation, Mike is not gay, he’s Will’s best friend of course he’s going to share moments with his best friend. Will likes him, and that makes it awkward in between the two. They are best friends, and not all best friends need to date! Even if someone looks at they’re lips that don’t mean he wants to kiss will, have they gotten close to kissing? No. You guys just think Mike is queer, because he shares those same moments with will as he does with El. I mean in a relationship, don’t you treat your partner as a friend but have them as a lover? Y’all don’t make since with all of this Byler stuff.
Volume 2 needs to have some more Will scenes. Perhaps a dash of happiness sprinkled in because he has gone through so much trauma and even when he's finally safe, he gets ignored. Let him confess to Mike
Note that Mike is fully aware of how awkward El and Will are making his visit, but pretends to be oblivious to such stuff. Mike totally knows about Will's feelings too - he even had to tell Will to back off "...we're friends! We're *friends*". Even though Mike is occasionally uncomfortable with Will's attachment to him, he clearly still has no quarms about being friends. S4 also showed Will coming to terms with the fact that he can't be reliant on Mike forever, hell - he even started finding the strength to be there for Mike (whereas it's always been the other way round)
I know exactly how Will was feeling when he was skating alone I’m an only child and doing things by yourself really sucks like going to amusement parks
I get Mike could've done more, but he's right that Will could've just as easily called. And obviously, someone would focus on their girlfriend more. Bottom line, everyone is being dumb this season except the bad guy.
Why you blamed Will?!😡 Is Mike that is idiot bastard a s same eleven!! Both ignore him and have forget his birthday! If there's someone od to blame those are El and Mike!!😡😡
So it should all be down on Will to stay in touch? That's not how friendships work. And no, people shouldn't focus on their girlfriends more. Again, that's not how relationships work
@@mrdr0161 Not all down on Will alone. But I do think that when someone moves out of town, then it's mainly his responsibility to take the initiative when it comes to keeping the relationship alive. And while it is true that romantic relationships shouldn't put friendships aside, its also true that friends should be supportive of their friends relationships. Which Will never really has been. For example, Lucas was at the beginning of S3 annoyed as well about how clingy Mike's relationship with El was. But when Mike was having relationship issues, he immediately tried to give him (bad) relationship advice. While Will was just annoyed and not sensitive at all about him being lovesick. That's where the issue really lies. Will having a more supportive attitude to Mike's and El's relationship would be also a good way to strengthen his bond with Mike. But he always approached their relationship from a place of jealousy, because deep down it appears that he wants to be more than just friends with Mike.
I think all of yall forget Mike is still a kid. Isn’t he 14 or 15? That’s still very young with a lot of developing to do. They all have been through traumatic events and have all delt with it differently. It seems that Mike handles all of his stress with anger and then catches himself after and apologizes… he did with Will
Then Will being 14 and 15 people excuse the awkwardness as “Will likes Mike”, just because some people pointed out the ships doesn’t mean that it is true. We don’t know his sexuality and I don’t think he can try with his sexuality when he’s been through a ton of trauma. I mean we’ll find out, but will already has no character, I really want the producers to give him more interactions with the show and reunite all of them instead of just making Will gay just for the sake of it. Plus, all that’s gonna do is provide for the fans than the show itself or character development because Will is still the same shy, timid kid. But we’ll have to wait and see.
@@plmdea your comment aged like Milk. Noah (Will’s Actor) confirmed that Will IS gay and in love with Mike in a recent Variety interview. Look it up for yourself or look at my community posts. I posted the news there.
I felt bad for Will ever since season 3. Mike and Lucas began ignoring him for Max and El. Dustin has his friendship/brotherly relationship with Steve but Will has no one.
It’s his birthday MIKE AND EL PAY ATTENTION TO HIM ‼️he has every right to go off on them. They started off as best friends literally as little kids✊🏽. Mike moving weird he has never excluded will.
0:40 this scene makes me fell sad seeing will just rolling at in the backround like he doesn't even exist anymore It makes me fell very bad for him it just makes me wanna cry to see him hangin out alone there
They were at the airport and Mike just got off a long flight where he was mostly interested in seeing his girlfriend. A painting that Will himself downplayed probably wasn't going to be his top priority.
I feel so bad for will. he doesnt deserve to cry or get upset. I almost cried in the scene when mike took his pancakes and went upstairs and left will alone.
Guys can yall act like there’s another Byers brother named Zack who is bullied a lot and Jonathan Joyce and will dose not pay attention to him please thanks so much
guys im going insane over this the song that plays as mike responds to will around 1:40 is literally called “In the closet (at Rink O Mania)” thry cant keep getting away with this
It's sad how y'all just prioritize Will's happiness above all. Sure, he deserves to be happy, but so does El. It seems to me that she's doing a lot worse, but just masks it all under a smile. She lost her dad, is being thrown in a new environment with the Byers' who are already a functional family, and she feels lonely and lost without her powers. Being a third wheel is not as painful as all that. I'm also kinda mad at Will for blaming El for lying. He was really a jerk to her, completely oblivious to what she had to deal with. I get that he was ignored and upset, but it doesn't mean he had to take it all out on El.
He didn’t blame El for lying lmao. He simply told her that she should tell the truth to Mike lmao. I guess you could say he might’ve been a little sassy but that’s about it. Y’all over exaggerate hella.
Damn rewatching this I kind of feel for Will. I had a best friend who completely changed as we got older. She got loads of boyfriends and I always felt ignored all the time. Our friendship changed and that shit hurt Fr. It’s not that I didn’t like boys, I did but was self conscious especially since I was overweight. At the same time I just wasn’t concerned with relationships. I just enjoyed laughing with my friend and having sleepovers. I was like Will. Never wanting to walk with her and her boyfriend because I definitely felt like a third wheel when I did. But I do think Will has romantic feelings for Mike so it probably hurts more. Or he could just be really sad that his friendship with Mike basically faded away. If it’s the latter, I feel it Will 😪
Ik y’all hating mike this season reason for him acting different is because things have changed from the other seasons they are growing up and spent some time apart so things are gonna be different for the characters that wats the writers are reflecting
Will could have reached out more as well if he wanted to talk to Mike. Its not fair of Will to put all the blame of the reaching out on to Mike because he at leats called like 4 times and Will 0
I grew up in the 1980s, and I can say that as a guy you NEVER hug your friends. Back then that would've been seen as effeminate or "gay." You can say that's ridiculous, but it's how it was, and given that Stranger Things takes place in the 1980s, it's not surprising that a heterosexual teenage male (who flew out to see his girlfriend first and foremost) wouldn't hug another guy, even if that guy was a longtime friend. It just wasn't something you did.
WILL gets jealous?? Did you SEE how quickly Mike makes a beeline to ask about the painting and how he says "COOL" like he "super duper doesn't care" when Will brushes it off?? Like that is the most classic crush behavior smh
I hate that his whole personality is Eleven now. I miss the old Mike. The one who cared for his friends. The one who cared about Will and his feelings not the one who let him have a mental breakdown in a car. Like seriously, the dude did nothing. Season 1 Mike would of not left will crying like that. ☹️
Finns character seems like a symbol of love to the other guy. Finn just doesn't seem to know what to make of it with a sort of "get off me" attitude. Ultimately the boy wants Finns love and he doesn't know how to say it.
I don’t think Will is jealous, just sad he can’t have that, not only not with Mike in particular, but feel like he can’t in general, being gay in the 80s was not the best times 🤷🏻♀️ but yeah, Mike made me mad this season, gaslighting Will and not returning the same love to El as she was giving to Mike.
I honestly thought Will was just missing his best friend. I had been completly ignorant about him being in love with Mike until that painting was revealed.
I feel Will's pain because he wants to be more than friends with Mike and I know how that feels because I'm crushing on someone I care about and I can't tell because it could ruin our relationship and we can't be together because she has a girlfriend and it can't happen and it's killing me 😭
Anybody else just singing set fire to the rain while watching this? Lyrics I was singing: “Cause there’s a side, to you, that I never knew, never knew. All the things, you said they were never true, never true. All the games, you played, you would always win, always win.”
Ya'll Mike haters forget who shoved a bigger kid down for making fun of Will after he "Died". And forgot who saved Eleven when she was getting choked to death by Mind Flayer Billy. And who gave the speech to everyone over the walkie talkies about how Will risked himself for the party and they needed to do the same for him. Its not his fault that Will is interested in him and he doesn't want to return that same energy cause he's not into boys. Will needs to grow up and accept it. And find himself another man
The reason Why Will Was Jealous Is Because He Said That Mike isn't Interested Of what will has 2 Say, Therefore Another reason why will was jealous is Because it was March 22nd 1986 Wills Brithday That mike and El Forgot.
So everybody is mad at Mike for not giving will a hug I get what you're saying but come on it's not that serious and by the way I don't know why everybody's shipping him and will anyway new Flash "MIKE IS NOT GAY"
Ik this is supposed to be about will and el and mike. But you CAN NOT convince me that mike did not come lookin’ like he came straight from the minions
I hate that poor Will's just sitting there playing with plastic WITH NO MILKSHAKE sadly listening to Mike and El have fun, while they slurp on their milkshakes. I feel so bad for Will, he's mistreated all of the time, and guess who mostly mistreats him, Mike. The guy Will cares for deeply enough for everything Mike's said and done to scar him forever, you can tell when Mike's words and actions truly poke will in the heart in a unpleasant way. Learn some respect, and treat your "best friend" with some and don't obsess over El like she's the last bite of food you'll over get, Mike. Jeez!
will deserved better in the first episodes. number one it was his birthday.. he was the third wheel and he didnt deserve that at all and mike i don’t even know what happened to him hes just not my favorite anymore
He is not ignored, he is just not fitting in. He's stuck at the same place he was when Vecna got him, no wonder that the upside down is stuck in the same date, it's symbolising Will's situation perfectly.
I’m kind of on mike’s side. At least Mike made an effort to write or call while Will didn’t. And get he’s blaming their friendship failing on Mike?! Friendship is a two way street. Will had a million opportunities to keep his friendship alive and you know what he just fucking bailed
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Friendship is not supposed to be a lower form of love, Mike. Just a different form. Poor Will
I think Mike knows this. But in his defense, Will apparently didn't reach out to him either during all those months. I think that when someone moves out of town, then it should be mainly his responsability to try keep the friendship alive. But instead, Will expected like always for Mike to take the initiative and had a jealous response to his relationship with El.
So I think the main issue here is that Will deep down wants more than just friendship with Mike. This then leads to unrealistic expectations, jealousy and this disconect then leads to an overall awkward tension.
@@speedy3702 We don't technically know how often Will reached out. Mike is being flippant during the conversation. Friendship is a two-way street, so they both should have reached out to each other. I agree with you that the person who moves should make more of an effort to keep the friendship going. If Will didn't put in much effort to reach out to Mike then he shouldn't blame Mike so much. I doubt Will didn't reach out though. He cares too much to have not reached out
@@Sanjali04 True, we don't know how often Will reached out. So I also don't think it's fair to decide who is more at fault for the situation. And the same way as it's unlikely that Will hasn't reached out to Mike a few times, I also find it unlikely that Mike has reached out to him less times than Lucas, Dustin or Max have.
I think the difference is just that since Will has clearly deeper feelings for Mike, he has unrealistic expectations towards him and therefore gets easily hurt when those expectations are not met. For example, the awkward hug fail at the airport was for Will reason enough to not give him the paining. If he had given it, then maybe Mike would have felt guilty for not having brought a present himself and maybe there would have been a slightly different dynamic between them. But the way as things unfolded, Will got annoyed about being a third wheel and Mike got annoyed by his negative attitude.
@@speedy3702 at the end of the day mike said will was not at fault and he didn't deserve any of this sooo..
@@pau7886 And Will previously said that he was being a jerk and that he "deserved it". So all this was just about them finally owning up to their mistakes, instead of just blaming the other.
So when it comes to what went wrong between Mike's & Will's relationship, I think that both of them were at fault. Mike is indeed to blame for letting his relationship with El having negatively affect his friendships. However, Will is also to blame for never having been really supportive of Mike's & El's relationship, unlike for example Lucas tried to be in S3.
Notice how Mike & Will finally bonded in Episode 4 when Mike talked about his fight with El and Will offered some encouraging words. Immediately in the scene after that, Mike then apologized to El about how he is being acting. So I think that this type of relationship support has been previously always missing from Will's side, which also contributed to things becoming awkward between them.
Bro it's not even the fact that the hug with Will was awkward. It was the fact that everybody made the whole room awkward for no reason. Goes to show how they've really grown apart, even Will and Johnathan.
Distance really does that. Ppl develope differently in other environments and especially as a teen, u just change everyday.
@@carla6485 True, but you'd think they just try and make some type of conversation.
@@eyi768 People counted the awkwardness of Will and Mike as Will being gay, but it was just that Will missed his best friend. He got stuck in the upside down and Mike still cared more for El and it showed. Then he just wanted their friendship to repair, but they were too distant to make up. Mike obviously makes things awkward, and Will doesn’t know how to solve it, and Jonathan and El have been distant from Will too.
@@plmdea They literally did a 180 on Johnathan's character as if he's just a dumb character from the 80's (which is ironic) but then there's not even an explanation why.
@@eyi768 There is an explanation, it's called PTSD. Everyone deals with it differently. At this point, all of these characters have massive amount of PTSD.
It’s the fact that it was his birthday and everyone had forgotten even his brother
How did u know it was his birthday?
@@Letmb in season 2 joyce said "do you know what march 22 is? its your birthday"
@@ht1af_moon PLS 💀💀💀💀 do u think the writers actually forgot about it or they did it intentionally since no one cares about wills feelings anyways 😭😭
@@Letmb they did it intentionally, it's gonna be important in the final episode.
@@muqki2178 i stg 💀 will better get some respect in this show fr, the last 2 seasons no one gave a shit about him
That hug where Mike just rejects it and pats Will on the shoulder breaks my heart. Like, that's your best friend since childhood and you haven't seen him in forever :(
As someone who grew up in the 1980s, it was my experience that guys don't hug. It was seen as really weird to do that and you get labeled "gay" which was one of the worst stigmas to have at the time. You might find that weird or stupid, but it's how it was and as a presumably heterosexual male, Mike is probably really weirded out by the whole thing, but doesn't want to completely lose his friendship with Will, so he tolerates it.
@@MikeTXBCyeah it’s still like that today
@@MikeTXBCAnd then *'tolerate it* from Taylor Swift starts playing...
Nah cause one is trying to smash and bros got a girlfriend
The reason El seemed let down at the end of Mike's gift was because it said "From Mike" not "Love Mike", foreshadowing a part of the argument
yeah
Or maybe it meant that he was lying about hand picking those flowers. He bought it and and those people who made it wrote from mike as they usually do
Imagine being the third wheel, while you are in love with first wheel, oh and they also forgot your Bday
@Carly Vandabout when the bullies were recording El at the roller rink it shows the date, 22nd March and with the Duffers attention to detail I don’t think that was an accident. I think Vecna finds Will in Vol 2 and is gonna use it against him 😞
the writers said he was a error they didn’t mean for it to be he’s birthday
@@ozboz-roblox363 that actually makes it more depressing, even the _writers_ forgot poor Will’s birthday! I hate how such an important character in S1 and S2 has been pushed so far into the background! I seriously hope the Duffers have done this on purpose because Will is gonna have a much bigger role to play in Vol2 and S5. If not it’ll be such a waste of a character and talent since Noah is an awesome actor 😞
@@Camilla550 yeah because the writters are too damn obsessed with Joe Keery and giving Steve Harrington all the damn screens time and storylines that other characters get left out lol
What if them going to rink o mania was for will's birthday? And also they were gonna watch a movie the day after. Maybe this was a gift for his birthday?
I can relate to will. It makes me feel hollow. Again. It reminds me of those school years...
Same with me right now and the boy I like who is my best friend we havent talked in so long but he is supposed to be coming to visit me but im scared hes not gonna come and I will have a breakdown.
@@akiraasmr3002 Best of luck. Be confident. Above all Show your true emotions.
@@akiraasmr3002 i hope ur okay :)
Same :(
What happened to Mike? He was such a caring character the first seasons and now he is really annoying. I miss Mike. Will and El deserve so much better (specially Will please let him be happy 🥺)
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who saw that he’s been sick a jerk after S3 to will just bc he has a girlfriend
But Mike yelled at El on season 1 😕
Mike is still a very caring character. His main flaw is just that he sometimes oblivious to what the people around him are feeling (I guess he got that from his parents). But when he gets it, there is nobody who cares more than he does.
@@shannenknudsen2608 tbf its because he was stressed because He thought they were gonna find will and they thought he was dead when they "found him in the lake"
what is he annoying about
I’m about ready to jump through the screen and give Will a hug
Then take me with you. Group Hug.
@@nishthaarora9533 yaaaas I’m coming with
Count me in
Everyone form a line and link hands, this is clearly going to be a big party, we’re coming Will!!!
YAYAYAYAY BIG GROUP HUG FOR WILL
It's so weird hearing their voices so deep lol
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Will's voice tho He sounds like an adult cuz he grew up
@@healthonus3931 yeah. And yesterday I found out that the actor is a couple of months younger than me. I was like whaaattt??
lt s so weird hearing thei voices so dep lol mike
0:17 did anyone noticed El's expression when she read 'From Mike'. Reminded me when later she pulls out the letters to point out that Mike never said Love you to her
Because he secretly loves Will
I thought it was because she didn’t want to be called El anymore and instead preferred Jane 😭
@@brandonlynn5658 cap. He loves El. He’s going to have a whole speech about it in V2.
@@brandonlynn5658 cap
its probably because he doesnt know how to show love because he never got loved properly by his own parents. I think hes just nervous to say it to her face because in s3 he says it outloud
Mike: I'm like Bambi on ice.
El: Hahaha (What the hell is a Bambi?)
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
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I love Mike, but he's the definition of gaslighting in this season. I feel like,just like finn said himself, he has this idea that things will just stay the same and since eleven is coming into her own and Will is showing sings of linking him, he just chooses to undereact to things and pretend that the whole world overreacts.
what do you expect Mike to do about Will? He is straight.
he wasnt gaslightning anyone but oke hater
He was right because Will could have reached out more also and Eleven is Mike's girlfriend so ofc Mike is gonna call her more then Will. You all just hate on Mike because you dont like his character
Even Will admitted he himself was being a jerk
@@Kenyagirly yeah but it’s still not fair that he didn’t talk to Will at all yeah of course he’s gonna talk to his girlfriend more but that still doesn’t mean he should ignore Will, just because he has a girlfriend doesn’t mean he can’t talk to Will
if anyone’s curious, Mike thinks Will is gay. In season 3, Mike says to Will, “it’s not my fault you don’t like girls”. You can tell Mike goes in for the “bro” handshake when he first sees Will but is thrown off when Will goes for the hug. Not at all saying Mike is homophobic, i believe he just has the common misconception that “all gay guys are attracted to other guys” and thinks Will likes him or might get it confused on their relationship and where they stand.
Thats exactly What i was thinking !!!!
i think that ur right but in fairness, will DOES like him lmfao and im pretty sure mike has noticed. when theyre digging and will is staring at mike, mike gets all weird and keeps digging and pretends like nothing is happening.
@@navrotron22 oh yeah, wills definitely in love with mike. i’m pretty sure the painting he’s been working on is of mike lol
@@ChromeM I am not sure of that. I just think it’s more like he looks up to Mike. He is the one who insisted on looking for him when Will disappeared in season 1.
@@rosafillava4821 nah he likes mike
Wills face in a few of these scenes I just melt from sadness.
I soneties feel so bad for Will. Like in season 3 how Mike and Lucas ignored him and didn't want to spend time with him anymore like old times. And he went through so much like being kidnapped from the demogorgon and being possessed from the mind flayer. And how Mike called him a douchebag for nothing and being a jerk to him. True, Will should have stood up for El when Angela humiliated her in public but he just stood there doing nothing. But if you were in that situation, you wouldn't know how to handle it or what to do at that exact time since it happened so fast. But yeah Will one of my favourites.
Is it just me or is Mike seeming nervous with Will here? Refusing to give him a hug and just awkwardly pats him. Looking over and being like "u-um what's that?" And then a short "cool" looking dead at him. Theres something going on thay he's not saying. Dont know if its because he knows Will likes him and is trying to deal with it or if he likes Will?
I think the failed hug was just a misundestanding. If you look at Mike's hand gesture at the beginning, then you can see that he was going for a "bro handshake", while Will was going for the hug. The result was then this painfully awkward pat on the shoulder.
And as for the "what's that". Well, I think this was supposed to be a conversation starter from Mike's side. But since Will was hurt by the failed hug, he said that it's nothing, which killed the conversation and made things awkward again.
Probably both the things
Guys don’t hug 😂
@@Archiekins- please stay in the 1950s
Could be true, Noah said he ships it which could be a hint and the writers confirmed that we’d be getting clarification on his sexuality next season apparently also that would be entertaining to watch
0:58 Will looks so sad 😔 he deserves all the happiness.
if he was alone he would probably cry. i mean he was so exited to see mike. his hand was shaking literally while waiting him. And after he get a half hug when he want to hug, and he is the third wheel of a very VERY awkward date 💀
Yeah he left on the sideline
Mike in Seasons 1-2: Will is my best friend and I'm worried about him. Eleven is cool and I like her.
Mike in Seasons 3-4: All I care about is Eleven and nothing else. Oh yeah, Will.......you're here................
fr.
Yeah
I both love and hate how accurate that can be to real life experience and I hope I never made my friends feel that way.
@@nefarioussagittarius8906 sadly mine did
Yeah, I wonder whyyyy he tries so hard to be normal… 🙄
when wills so left out even the creators of the show forgot his birthday-
Noah schnap is super talented i dont understand why he still dont show up in new shows or movies!
I cannot get over how the airport scene and the roller rink scene (before El gets bullied again) are literally the happiest moments of Vol 1. Those YELLOW FLOWERS THOUGH ❤❤❤ I LOVE IT ❤❤
I have never related to a character more in my entire life.
gay wit me bro
NOOOOO. WILL WANTED TO GIVE HIS BEST FRIEND A HUG. U CAN TELL HE WAS SO EXCITED STOP IMMA CRY. MIKE GIVE HIM A HUG ALREADY NOT JUST A STUPID PAT ON THE BACK 😭
Will has a crush on mike
Mike was going for a handshake but Will went in for a hug which made it more awkward.
Mike have always been able to hug Will before he even held his hand in s2 and he hugged him and they did a whole 360 hug at the end of s3. Now he can barely even look at him. Hm. Explain yourself Mike? 🧐
Y’all do realize it’s the 80’s right? Most gays still weren’t allowed/ supported
Mike doesn’t have ill intentions on ignoring Will, but what does Mike look like for him to call a man everyday in the 80’s, HE WOULD LOOK HOMOSEXUAL.
Everyone is forcing the Byler situation, Mike is not gay, he’s Will’s best friend of course he’s going to share moments with his best friend.
Will likes him, and that makes it awkward in between the two. They are best friends, and not all best friends need to date!
Even if someone looks at they’re lips that don’t mean he wants to kiss will, have they gotten close to kissing? No.
You guys just think Mike is queer, because he shares those same moments with will as he does with El.
I mean in a relationship, don’t you treat your partner as a friend but have them as a lover?
Y’all don’t make since with all of this Byler stuff.
Volume 2 needs to have some more Will scenes. Perhaps a dash of happiness sprinkled in because he has gone through so much trauma and even when he's finally safe, he gets ignored. Let him confess to Mike
And so he did. But he instead projected his crush on Mike into El.
Note that Mike is fully aware of how awkward El and Will are making his visit, but pretends to be oblivious to such stuff. Mike totally knows about Will's feelings too - he even had to tell Will to back off "...we're friends! We're *friends*". Even though Mike is occasionally uncomfortable with Will's attachment to him, he clearly still has no quarms about being friends. S4 also showed Will coming to terms with the fact that he can't be reliant on Mike forever, hell - he even started finding the strength to be there for Mike (whereas it's always been the other way round)
I know exactly how Will was feeling when he was skating alone I’m an only child and doing things by yourself really sucks like going to amusement parks
I get Mike could've done more, but he's right that Will could've just as easily called. And obviously, someone would focus on their girlfriend more. Bottom line, everyone is being dumb this season except the bad guy.
Plus its not Mike's fault. Will's mom took him, his brother, and El out of town and didn't even consider the consequences or possibilities
@@calliefinck6275 Yeah, when someone moves out of town, then he should be the person to take the initiative and reach out.
Why you blamed Will?!😡
Is Mike that is idiot bastard a s same eleven!!
Both ignore him and have forget his birthday! If there's someone od to blame those are El and Mike!!😡😡
So it should all be down on Will to stay in touch? That's not how friendships work. And no, people shouldn't focus on their girlfriends more. Again, that's not how relationships work
@@mrdr0161 Not all down on Will alone. But I do think that when someone moves out of town, then it's mainly his responsibility to take the initiative when it comes to keeping the relationship alive. And while it is true that romantic relationships shouldn't put friendships aside, its also true that friends should be supportive of their friends relationships. Which Will never really has been.
For example, Lucas was at the beginning of S3 annoyed as well about how clingy Mike's relationship with El was. But when Mike was having relationship issues, he immediately tried to give him (bad) relationship advice. While Will was just annoyed and not sensitive at all about him being lovesick. That's where the issue really lies. Will having a more supportive attitude to Mike's and El's relationship would be also a good way to strengthen his bond with Mike. But he always approached their relationship from a place of jealousy, because deep down it appears that he wants to be more than just friends with Mike.
I think all of yall forget Mike is still a kid. Isn’t he 14 or 15? That’s still very young with a lot of developing to do. They all have been through traumatic events and have all delt with it differently. It seems that Mike handles all of his stress with anger and then catches himself after and apologizes… he did with Will
Then Will being 14 and 15 people excuse the awkwardness as “Will likes Mike”, just because some people pointed out the ships doesn’t mean that it is true. We don’t know his sexuality and I don’t think he can try with his sexuality when he’s been through a ton of trauma. I mean we’ll find out, but will already has no character, I really want the producers to give him more interactions with the show and reunite all of them instead of just making Will gay just for the sake of it. Plus, all that’s gonna do is provide for the fans than the show itself or character development because Will is still the same shy, timid kid. But we’ll have to wait and see.
I came out when I was 14. I think he gay. Happy pride month! 🌈
Yeah
Gaw damn then puberty must have hit Will like a brick.
@@plmdea your comment aged like Milk. Noah (Will’s Actor) confirmed that Will IS gay and in love with Mike in a recent Variety interview. Look it up for yourself or look at my community posts. I posted the news there.
I felt bad for Will ever since season 3. Mike and Lucas began ignoring him for Max and El. Dustin has his friendship/brotherly relationship with Steve but Will has no one.
I understand how Will feels. Though Mike is also right. Will could have also reached out to him. Friendships are a two way street after all.
the music when Will is watching Mike and El skating away from him really gets me dude.
It’s his birthday MIKE AND EL PAY ATTENTION TO HIM ‼️he has every right to go off on them. They started off as best friends literally as little kids✊🏽. Mike moving weird he has never excluded will.
nope not really
They didn’t forget the duffers did. They’re changing his birthday to May 22nd instead.
poor will, he must have felt so left out. it was even his birthday
0:40 this scene makes me fell sad seeing will just rolling at in the backround like he doesn't even exist anymore
It makes me fell very bad for him it just makes me wanna cry to see him hangin out alone there
i was crying and they forgot his birthday too? i would’ve roller-skated w him 😕 he doesn’t deserve this shit
Dude when will said oh it's just a painting I've been working on
Then Mike's response was cool.
Like he didn't even ask to see it-
They were at the airport and Mike just got off a long flight where he was mostly interested in seeing his girlfriend. A painting that Will himself downplayed probably wasn't going to be his top priority.
Just finished 3 episodes but i am severely disappointed in Mike. I don't know, his character seems off.
I feel so bad for will. he doesnt deserve to cry or get upset. I almost cried in the scene when mike took his pancakes and went upstairs and left will alone.
Haha he chose 🥞 over Will.
No he took Els pancakes since she wasnt coming down and wanted to talk with her about what happened.
Guys can yall act like there’s another Byers brother named Zack who is bullied a lot and Jonathan Joyce and will dose not pay attention to him please thanks so much
guys im going insane over this the song that plays as mike responds to will around 1:40 is literally called “In the closet (at Rink O Mania)” thry cant keep getting away with this
Right.
And I'm going crazy for the song around 1:03
Can you tell me the name of this songggg pleaseeeee
It's sad how y'all just prioritize Will's happiness above all. Sure, he deserves to be happy, but so does El. It seems to me that she's doing a lot worse, but just masks it all under a smile. She lost her dad, is being thrown in a new environment with the Byers' who are already a functional family, and she feels lonely and lost without her powers. Being a third wheel is not as painful as all that. I'm also kinda mad at Will for blaming El for lying. He was really a jerk to her, completely oblivious to what she had to deal with. I get that he was ignored and upset, but it doesn't mean he had to take it all out on El.
will went through a bunch being kidnapped, being possessed and being ignored
and also el can't just get away with lying to impress but yes I do feel bad for both
@@deerling3148 yeah
He didn’t blame El for lying lmao. He simply told her that she should tell the truth to Mike lmao. I guess you could say he might’ve been a little sassy but that’s about it. Y’all over exaggerate hella.
I didn’t get the impression he was taking anything out on El
They saft him from the upsidedown 2 times and this is how they treat him LOL
It’s sad that not just Will’s friends and family forgot his birthday…the creators too…mistakes like this happen..
Damn rewatching this I kind of feel for Will. I had a best friend who completely changed as we got older. She got loads of boyfriends and I always felt ignored all the time. Our friendship changed and that shit hurt Fr. It’s not that I didn’t like boys, I did but was self conscious especially since I was overweight. At the same time I just wasn’t concerned with relationships. I just enjoyed laughing with my friend and having sleepovers. I was like Will. Never wanting to walk with her and her boyfriend because I definitely felt like a third wheel when I did. But I do think Will has romantic feelings for Mike so it probably hurts more. Or he could just be really sad that his friendship with Mike basically faded away. If it’s the latter, I feel it Will 😪
Ik y’all hating mike this season reason for him acting different is because things have changed from the other seasons they are growing up and spent some time apart so things are gonna be different for the characters that wats the writers are reflecting
I hate it when people act like because they're "just friends" it means they can be sidelined or treated like not important. That's an acquaintance.
It really says something when Will was the only one who knew that El was lying from the start. Poor Mike witnessed it himself.
Come on mike he’s your best friend give the boy a hug. Its bad enough you forgot his birthday.
Will could have reached out more as well if he wanted to talk to Mike. Its not fair of Will to put all the blame of the reaching out on to Mike because he at leats called like 4 times and Will 0
I grew up in the 1980s, and I can say that as a guy you NEVER hug your friends. Back then that would've been seen as effeminate or "gay." You can say that's ridiculous, but it's how it was, and given that Stranger Things takes place in the 1980s, it's not surprising that a heterosexual teenage male (who flew out to see his girlfriend first and foremost) wouldn't hug another guy, even if that guy was a longtime friend. It just wasn't something you did.
WILL gets jealous?? Did you SEE how quickly Mike makes a beeline to ask about the painting and how he says "COOL" like he "super duper doesn't care" when Will brushes it off?? Like that is the most classic crush behavior smh
Poor Will him is always ignored!🥺
Was also his birthday!🥺💔
They didn’t forget the duffers did. They’re changing his birthday to May 22nd instead.
It ended off at the perfect part when will was about to take a bite 😂
Poor guy cant even eat a piece of egg 🤣🤣
Mike+eleven
Max+Lucus
Dustin + Suzy
Poor will has nobody 😢
“in the closet (at rink o mania)” and “tarzan boy” by baltimora… they can’t keep getting away with this
I feel so bad for Will he is such a nice person I really think he needs better than this
Poor Will.
I think Mike actually does know.
I hate that his whole personality is Eleven now. I miss the old Mike. The one who cared for his friends. The one who cared about Will and his feelings not the one who let him have a mental breakdown in a car. Like seriously, the dude did nothing. Season 1 Mike would of not left will crying like that. ☹️
That’s puberty for ya.
@@DeathtotheAshes I never even noticed I was going through puberty.
Will has been third wheeling since last season omg🤦♂️
Finns character seems like a symbol of love to the other guy. Finn just doesn't seem to know what to make of it with a sort of "get off me" attitude. Ultimately the boy wants Finns love and he doesn't know how to say it.
I cried while watching this like bro
0:48 love the music
Now I want to hug Will so bad
It looked more like Mike was the one being jealous… 🤭 look at my “Mike is secretly jealous” vid. His weird behavior explained
i miss the Mike who cares about Will🥺💔
I miss the. Mike who cares adout. 💔🥺
I don’t think Will is jealous, just sad he can’t have that, not only not with Mike in particular, but feel like he can’t in general, being gay in the 80s was not the best times 🤷🏻♀️ but yeah, Mike made me mad this season, gaslighting Will and not returning the same love to El as she was giving to Mike.
I honestly thought Will was just missing his best friend. I had been completly ignorant about him being in love with Mike until that painting was revealed.
I didn't know it was his birthday. I've never been that deep into the lore
The Duffer brothers confirmed that they forgot about his birthday.
Why am I doing this to myself ugh... Will needs a hug 😕❤️
It’s been a year Mike, I really really miss you
tl s been a year mike l l really really miss you
I feel Will's pain because he wants to be more than friends with Mike and I know how that feels because I'm crushing on someone I care about and I can't tell because it could ruin our relationship and we can't be together because she has a girlfriend and it can't happen and it's killing me 😭
Anybody else just singing set fire to the rain while watching this?
Lyrics I was singing:
“Cause there’s a side, to you, that I never knew, never knew. All the things, you said they were never true, never true. All the games, you played, you would always win, always win.”
Ya'll Mike haters forget who shoved a bigger kid down for making fun of Will after he "Died". And forgot who saved Eleven when she was getting choked to death by Mind Flayer Billy. And who gave the speech to everyone over the walkie talkies about how Will risked himself for the party and they needed to do the same for him. Its not his fault that Will is interested in him and he doesn't want to return that same energy cause he's not into boys. Will needs to grow up and accept it. And find himself another man
💀
bro he has going for A HUG
Finally someone said it lol
👽
You are stupid if you thinking hugging your male friend makes you gay or shows that you have interest in them then you are very sad.
anyone know the name of the track that plays while theyre skating?
The reason Why Will Was Jealous Is Because He Said That Mike isn't Interested Of what will has 2 Say, Therefore Another reason why will was jealous is Because it was March 22nd 1986 Wills Brithday That mike and El Forgot.
what is the name of the song that starts playing 0:46 ?
music in the background while will is skating?
What is the music at 00:39 ?
So everybody is mad at Mike for not giving will a hug I get what you're saying but come on it's not that serious and by the way I don't know why everybody's shipping him and will anyway new Flash "MIKE IS NOT GAY"
It's just acting.... Just acting..... 👌🏻
my poor baby
will can u be my bestie please
will u deserve more
Song name min. 1:06 please
0:31
Mike: “what’s that?”
Wills mind:”so thing I’m about to wake you with if you kiss eleven”
Mike what s that. ? Will mind spending thing l bout to wake you kiss
2:08 😭he got left alone
the closet: 💨
There so sweet
1:59 bro this is so sad
Ik this is supposed to be about will and el and mike. But you CAN NOT convince me that mike did not come lookin’ like he came straight from the minions
I feel like millie talks too much in this season 😂
Ok?
@@Sassywizard use your brain. El doesn't speak for 3 seasons now she just has normal convos. I get she had school but... what
@@Frosteh literally 😭
@@5starbihh3 plus the accent is building
@@Frosteh she's learning to speak lmao
I hate that poor Will's just sitting there playing with plastic WITH NO MILKSHAKE sadly listening to Mike and El have fun, while they slurp on their milkshakes. I feel so bad for Will, he's mistreated all of the time, and guess who mostly mistreats him, Mike. The guy Will cares for deeply enough for everything Mike's said and done to scar him forever, you can tell when Mike's words and actions truly poke will in the heart in a unpleasant way. Learn some respect, and treat your "best friend" with some and don't obsess over El like she's the last bite of food you'll over get, Mike. Jeez!
anyone know the song tht plays when they get on the rink
Tarzon boy
I feel sad for will he doesn't care about will only el they were happy together now sad together
0:01 bro is in his minion phase
THAT GOT ME LAUGHING 😭😭
will deserved better in the first episodes. number one it was his birthday.. he was the third wheel and he didnt deserve that at all and mike i don’t even know what happened to him hes just not my favorite anymore
WILL bola pra próxima, você ainda vai encontrar alguém incrível que te mereça.
After being kidnapped and taken by a monster to an alternate dimension, got possessed and went through an exorcism---
Just gets ignored
He is not ignored, he is just not fitting in.
He's stuck at the same place he was when Vecna got him, no wonder that the upside down is stuck in the same date, it's symbolising Will's situation perfectly.
I love Jane and mike are together
Such cute couple ❤ 0:32
Hey will should be thankful that he got to spend time with mike
Netflix completely gutted and redid this place.
the fact it was his birthday and nobody gave attention to him 😭
I’m kind of on mike’s side. At least Mike made an effort to write or call while Will didn’t. And get he’s blaming their friendship failing on Mike?! Friendship is a two way street. Will had a million opportunities to keep his friendship alive and you know what he just fucking bailed
We don’t actually know if Will made an effort or not, we can’t just assume he did or he didn’t
Will did call. Mike didn't. That is completely one sided. That's not how healthy friendships work
Will seemed to have not called all that much
@@mrdr0161 will says he called a couple of times but based on mikes words will didn’t call back just as much
Like mike said y do I get all the blame it’s because will likes him 💡
1:25 pro took that romantically
Who Mike or Will?
Mike and eleven: Having a good time together.
Will: They just be treating me like a third wheel the whole day.