If the drink makes you think everything is good and perfect, wouldn't his wife be acting nice and sweet while living in their crappy, dirty apartment? Same for the other people, they should be acting nice and content instead of rude and standoffish. Basically seeing everything around you as perfect but it's trash in real life, but it's like you don't notice it.
Part of it is the nervous system perception they talk about, it's possible in this world everyone is rude and mean but it just doesn't seem that way to everyone on the Rose Water, it's also possible that everyone being rude is the world version of nice and being nice is being rude, hence why his wife and plumber are "mean" to him because he shows niceness but as soon as he stops being nice and starts drinking the Rose Water again, she suddenly becomes nice to him again Edit: Sorry to anyone who reads this and is confused, I don't know a less complicated way of explaining it
Imagine him getting out of the fantasy world only to be trapped in another world where the drink is improved and now looks and tastes like normal water. 🤩
The drink makes everything you see is perfect, but could also have a side-effect in which you're rude in real life, though you won't notice yourself being rude since everything you see is perfect.
The only way this whole situation might make a bit of sens, 🤔. The disconnect between perception and reality is ridiculous. How do businesses function, make money? What about the government? Are they only making profits through selling the pink water? How does their society get anything done? What are the gains? And how the hell can they even notice when anyone doesn't act under the influence of the drug? Honestly, this pulled me out of the story.
@@ropale9730 totally agree with you, especially on the kind of last part where he saw the guy alive again. just wanted it to make a little bit of sense
It kinda doesn't make sense like the drugs is selective in it's effect (the water stays red whether he is under it's effect or not and he somehow can correctly perceive the warning video while under it's effect). Furthermore, if everyone is rude while under its effect shouldn't the MC still gets beaten by them even if he is under its, especially since the effect of the drugs seems to only "beautify" people perception of reality and not radically altering (All the location, items and people exist and in the same proportion both in real world and in fantasy, only their condition differ). I mean i can understand if the drugs could fool MC to perceive his wife curse as praise, but i doubt it could fool MC perception if he is stabbed or hit his wife or others.
@@richardgaotama3466 @Richard Gaotama I suspect that because everyone's actions are based on what they perceive, they may not be resorting to physical violence because there's no perceived equivalent need to do so in their views. In addition, the altering of their viewed reality might even make their minds not comprehend getting killed or being attacked, plus the "resurrected" plumber could even not be there at all, just a figment of imagination based on part perception.
I think we happy few will help clear up how the drug works. Joy worked similar to this where everything was happy and jolly and nothing got done in England. Yet people were forced to take joy and the moment a bad batch was made it made people immune to the drug to the point they were "downers." The "downers" were the ones who saw the reality. The people on joy didn't. They'd even attack you for being a downer or doing anything against their rules. The water infested with this drug btw. Even forced to wear masks. Drugs do different things to people and one of those is hallucinating events and actions. On the drug you think you are doing one thing but in actuality you aren't.
The red water literally changes a person's perceptions, the reason the boss was suspicious of him was because he was acting innocent and confused when in reality he was supposed to start trashing and cursing around just like any employee there
So it’s basically a metaphor “ to drink the kool-aid” as in believe everything the government tells you and follow the rules no questions asked your overlords will take care of you.
Except who believes that we live in a utopia where everything is great? No one believes that - including the government. So that's an incredibly simplistic interpretation, and wrong.
In my opinion, I see it being similar to alcohol for an alcoholic - at least symbolically. A drunk can move through a day and through life without a full understanding of wtf is going on. Their executive function and frontal lobe is hijacked and limited. They/we view the world through the eyes of someone who is inebriated. Often alcoholics drink to forget the pain, the bad things, and to escape to a “better place.” Just like the movie. But take that away for the consummate alcoholic- and they go into withdrawals that could even kill them. They feel like utter shit during a bad Alcohol withdrawal. They feel pain, and their sensory perception is off. There pain perception is off. They can hallucinate. They shake. They hallucinate and become delirious. They don’t see the world for what it really is - they see the world through the lens of someone withdrawing from alcohol. The experience subjectively for them may be far worse than it actually is in reality. So what do they/we do when it hurts? Find a way to get our hands on the devils drink. And take another sip. Just like in the movie.
normal water went extinct 3 years ago. the bottled water I got from a super store had so much steroids in it, it forced my brain to get me puke all of it out.
I dont think the plot was fully thought out. Alot of potential to have been great. I liked that in the end it didn't clarify whether it was safe to drink the clear liquid or not.
@@salmaabdullahgb there definitely is a factor of drug /alcoholism in the metaphor but I think it's more of a commentary on society. It made no sense that when he stopped drinking the liquid everyone behaved differently when they were still drinking the rose water. Then he killed the plumber, the plot fell apart completely.
@@leeannk4790 it makes sense. The guy drinking the red liquid sees the world in a better way, when he stops drinking, he realizes that everything was fake. It's his perspective. It's not like people's behavior is gonna change...it's what you see that is changing
@@laurajanco2i I do see your point, i still think it was not executed well, In the world everyone is drinking the liquid, meaning everyone has a rosey out look on life. Their perceptions had not changed. The wife treating him with disdain and having an affair makes no sense.
@@leeannk4790 that makes sense too. It's like while on that liquid, you cannot control yourself and you act like an animal without knowing it, while you think you're being civil and acting like a respectable person. It's still a metaphor for alchol and drugs, that make you act strangely and when you get out of it, you actually see the bad effect that they had on you. He killed the guy, but the red liquid made him see that the guy was fine and wasn't doing anything with his wife. While on that liquid, he always lived in his dreamland, while in reality his wife was probably abusing him, without him noticing it.
Wait, if the rose water makes you only see things as perfect then why would other people's behavior change when only you stop drinking it? Wouldn't they think everything was beautiful (in its own way) and still behave as before?
I assume it's more like a vr reality when on the drug so every person is living 2 lives at once just their consciousness is at the happy place when they're subconsciously upset
I think what people see is different from one another, in the MC's world everything is perfect, in the Plumber's world he probably sees himself as the greatest plumber and lover, the wife maybe into having multiple husbands visit her and banging. But don't know a lot of plot holes like the wife trying to get him to come home in a sweet tone, while most people are losing it, cold or rude and left to self interpretation.
Very very similar to the video game "We Happy Few", crappy world is altered to be perfect by drug that they're forced to take or cops come after you. Great game. Highly recommend it.
I was a bit confused about the plot but now I think it's pretty simple. Rose water makes everything bad look good and without drinking it you can see the truth. For example, the wife was a cheater and abusive when he didn't drink the rose water and when he did drink it, she suddenly turned sweet and bubbly again so ig the rose water basically makes people hallucinate
@@inoox I'm not sure but I'm guessing he isn't an ideal husband either? The house is rundown and everything is falling apart so that means even if he goes to work he isn't doing much for the family. Him being a ideal husband could be a hallucination for all we know
At first I thought this was a pretty decent dystopia...he's married to a sweet, loving and pretty woman. They have a lovely apartment with plenty of friendly neighbours. He feel great and has lots of energy. He enjoys his job, his boss praises him and doesn't allow him to work overtime. What a great dystopia! ;)
But I don't understand. If things are perfect when they drink it, and bad when they don't, is it reality always bad and the rose water just makes them think it's good? Plus like when he didn't drink it, his wife was all mad, does that mean she's always like that, and he just sees it different because he drank it? Like being on lsd and having a good trip and everything is awesome and not how it is in real life?
i would guess so. I am assuming, its like a body/mind seperation situation. When you drink it, your conciousness basically rewrites everything you perceive postively. Your body however acts negatively in the real world. So no one really knows what they are doing in the real world. I would assume the wife and plumber, probably didn't realize they were actually doing it. Maybe another scenario was playing in their minds. I am only saying this, because his co workers weren't replying to him when he tried to talk to them. I think they couldn't reply to him, because they were physically doing something else. His mind perceived them to be sitting queietly next to them, and the co workers mind, probably perceived somethign similar. Now in reality, the co workers were shambling around wildly, and the protagonist may or may not have been doing the same, regardless he wouldn't be able to communicate properly with others.
At first it seemed like the fantasy land was basically the same as reality but perceived differently, but it slowly becomes apparent that the fantasy land is completely unhinged from reality. People who drink the kool-aid think they are nice and other people are nice, but they're all trash and some of the people they think are there aren't even there at all.
What for LSD, that movie is the representation of alcohol. Ever heard of that asian countries, especially north korea basically makes everyone drunk so they dont realise how miserable their Situation is
Moral of the story is: You need to wake up and remove those rose colored glasses, and face reality head on. There is always hope at the end of the tunnel. Freedom lies behind that dark and dense forest, as long as you persevere and push through. Clear, bright and sunny days awaits you after your struggles. Have Faith and keep hope alive.
The plot seems to be inspired from Aldous Huxley's novel Brave New World where the government would use mind controlling drugs to suppress all discent against them
Ah yes, SOMA. excellent read that leaves on a hanging, unanswered note of those who attempted to think for themselves and find some form of humanity of sorts
To try and answer honestly, think of it like this: from the perspective of those drinking the rose water, everything they do is perfect, everything around them is perfect, and they have zero inhibition nor care for the real world around them. Think of when someone is drunk; they tend to overshare, they have an almost manic confidence, everything is funny and social no matter what is actually said. For people on the rose water, they feel that everything they do is kind, and wonderful, and great, so they have no filter when speaking in reality. .. The truth is that making them act grumpy and rude was a cinematic choice that's not totally logical, but I like to think it's rooted in that idea of their altered consciousness destroying their sense of right and wrong, so there's no reason to expend any energy to be polite..
The Futurological Congress by Stanisław Lem is a book with very similar story. I highly suggest reading it for anybody interested in futuristic-ish comedy
I think the red drink doesn't so much make everyone think they're in the same perfect joyous world but that it forces you into a delusion of what you personally would think of as a perfect reality. Basically everyone see themselves as the main character of there own delusion. So his idealized world is one where everyone is blissfully happy and joyous but his wife's may be one were she can get anything she asks for and on demand and the plumber maybe as a complete chad able to bed all the ladies (who knows). When you have all these different people completely oblivious to what's actually going on around them, then the world shown when he stops drinking is what you might get. Most are so consumed by their delusions that they're walking around like zombies. Possibly it's that those whose dream life is mostly constant with reality are able to see more of reality and interact with it more closely while those with a dream life more inconstant with reality are the ones walking around mindless, unable to really interact at all.
This reminds me of a movie that I don't remember much of. I only remember this scene where a man with some mental ilness (or few) didn't take his medicine one day. He suddenly saw his place being a total mess and later it was revealed that he had loads of meat that he probably ate, not even realising it (while on meds) And if I'm not mistaken, it was human meat and he was killing people.
The man not drinking "normal" water is the whole point of the movie. Fake or true, you can't trust anyone blindly anymore once you know you've been lied to all your life.
It’s like we look at reality as the perfect thing despite its trashy appearance and think to ourselves it’s perfect but when we get out of that dream, reality hits us hard that nothing is perfect unless you choose to look at it that way that doesn’t hurt you because you accept and embrace it
The rose water isn't exactly a drug, it's a metaphor for propaganda. I'm guessing they had the CCP in mind when they wrote it, which is why they drink it almost reverently, like they're singing the national anthem. At least, that's how I see it.
This whole movie makes me think of We Happy Few, the country you're in had a war and lost it. The people were so depressed by the lost that goverment forced people to take pills that made everyone happy. Just like this movie, if you aren't under the pills effect, the whole city is trashed and ugly. But very nice and pretty when under the pills effects. Only difference is that people who hasn't taken the pill are feeling down, grumpy and violent, but the ones who take it are happy and cheery.
It's confusing what the rose water actually does, mainly because of the scenes with his wife when the effects wear off, because she is still drinking the rose water, and the plumber also, so why is she acting terribly and why is she cheating on him with the plumber, while pregnant no less? If it changes your behaviour as well as your perception of reality, if you come off those effects that wouldn't affect anyone else
Lol, I did some searching because some elements were suspiciously familiar, it's HK's version of Black Mirror. And made in 2019. And the liquid is red. A rather obvious parody of how HKers perceive CCP and mainlanders. The script could have made him see the other people behave normally since they perceive others as being friendly. But I think that since it's a HK show, it is trying to say that mainlanders have 2 sides, the nice side they present to the world, and the nasty side they conceal. The red water deludes them into thinking well of each other and themselves, but in reality, they are still nasty.
the quotes that i always remember from my professor , if you surrounded by crazy people, there's only 2 choice . become one of them or get out from there.
@@talker09 lol what? Rooh Afza The drink is commonly associated with the month of Ramadan, in which it is usually consumed during iftar. It is sold commercially as a syrup to flavour sherbets, cold milk drinks, ices, and cold desserts such as the popular falooda. The name Rooh Afza is sometimes translated as "refresher of the soul". -wikipedia
Think of what he really experiences as a line in time. When he drinks the rose water what he really experiences gets pushed out of the main line into a parallel line (Which gains control of the body.) that his base self doesn't have access to. While this happens his base self lives in a fantasy version of what his body is experiencing. When he doesn't drink the rose water he switches back to real life. While the main line exists at all times, the parallel line only exists when he drinks the rose water. The water just puts you in a fantasy world while a copy of your personality lives your life. I'm not sure if they are controlling the copy somehow or are trying to condition the main personality to be obedient though. It doesn't explain everything but it is the closest I can come to without just saying it's magic.
bro "fantasy world" doesn't literally mean he gets isekai'd, it just means he was drugged up and hallucinating but now his head is clear, no more "fantasies"
@@UnknownGamer40464 That doesn't explain why what they're experiencing from the drug and the way that they're actually behaving is different. Plus I don't know where do you get this isekai idea, you must have not have read what I wrote.
@@siral2000 It doesn't have to explain it, the plot is just inconsistent. There are no two worlds, it's metaphorical for the "world" of hallucinations.
@@UnknownGamer40464 I never said there was two worlds. I merely used the words "fantasy world" to refer to that state. My theory maybe wrong but you're comment in no way demonstrates why, because you completely misunderstood what my original comment was about.
Strange that everyone is high but in reality not. Like if everyone drinks the rose water why was the wife in reality shouting it would have been much better if the people were still on high mode but the environment was a disaster
@@BigBrainGamer58 To me it seems they THINK they’re acting normal but in reality their true personalities are acting out as their subconscious/conscious is living out this fantasy
OK for those who don’t know back on the PlayStation three there was a game called haze it looks to me like this movie took direct inspiration from the game honestly I suggest that you guys check it out it is a beautiful game with a very interesting story
If everyone is acting unhappy even though they're drinking the red water when he isn't, that doesn't make sense. It makes me feel like it's medication to prevent hallucinations and paranoia instead... I don't think this premise was properly thought out 🧐
It's possible the movie is being seen from Pyro's point of view, so when he drinks the rose water, it's like looking at the world through rose colored glasses. Instead of him seeing reality, his wife hates him and people are rude, the water makes him delusional and see the other's actions as smiles and kindness. It's also possible that in his area the people he met don't drink the water, or that it works for some but not all
Definetely symbolizes acholoism or drugs. Taking either leads you to bliss/happiness at the cost of everything around you, but you're probably unaware of it for that high. Take it away and the withdrawals and reality crash into you.
That, no I don't think the government would actually fill the air with hallucinations, besides nothing is perfect or extremely bad in this reality, it's mixture of both. Governments want people to feel perfection about world so we aren't cautious. Whatsoever we see everything, good or bad, light or dark, so it's impossible to assume Government controls the air.
@@yoyonew9425 I am MORE than sure that such hallucination would be impossible to implement AND that this hallucination was NOT intended by the government, IF there even was any hallucination. How about YOU wake up and stop manipulating people?
Literally what the combine try to get you to do in Half-Life 2 episode 1 _"Don't drink the water. They put something in it to make you forget. I don't even remember how I got here."_
I get what the metaphor is based on, but unfortunately the rules of this world make no sense. If the drink makes you experience happiness then why would the reality be that everyone is miserable and violent? It literally makes no sense to do this if it has no effect on the actual members of society outside of their own minds.
The drink doesn’t make you experience happiness. It changes your perception of reality like a strong drug. Different people would have different reaction. I don’t see any difference like how Russians have historically used alcohol for control. Function enough to do slave labor but not enough to rebel.
The amount of people that don't realize a similar thing like this is actually happening as we speak is disappointing but then label you a conspiracy theorist like protocol.
People should still act like they're under the rosewater even if he's not, right? Then again, maybe we're seeing things from his head, so his wife ISN'T acting as terrible as he sees and his boss isn't that bad with his business, but the withdrawal symptoms of the rosewater include "reverse hallucinations" of sorts.
Other way around all of them are in a Trance were everything is well Good perfect After he stop the drinking the effect losend and he woke to reality like the other woman how the future is how human Lost sense of reality the organising became Chaos it happend before with the woman he saw in the end shes like him waken up knowing this aint real not accepting that everything was a lie and fake he believed to habe his life a lie his love a lie with his wife was to much the other guards chased him they known some got out of the Trance they forced the people to drink its the facade to keep everything up the woman he meets in the end of the movie she was like him it happend to her two so the guards
If the drink makes you think everything is good and perfect, wouldn't his wife be acting nice and sweet while living in their crappy, dirty apartment? Same for the other people, they should be acting nice and content instead of rude and standoffish. Basically seeing everything around you as perfect but it's trash in real life, but it's like you don't notice it.
Exactly this! He was a cheerful kind person when he drank it
Part of it is the nervous system perception they talk about, it's possible in this world everyone is rude and mean but it just doesn't seem that way to everyone on the Rose Water, it's also possible that everyone being rude is the world version of nice and being nice is being rude, hence why his wife and plumber are "mean" to him because he shows niceness but as soon as he stops being nice and starts drinking the Rose Water again, she suddenly becomes nice to him again
Edit: Sorry to anyone who reads this and is confused, I don't know a less complicated way of explaining it
@@coltonfairchild3902 But HE acted nice when he drank the rose water, so everyone ELSE (who drank it) being rude makes no sense.
Maybe in the movie it is better explained, but yes, it is big plot hole
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@@jaideepshekhar4621 well at least he *thought* he acted nice, as we know he doesn't see the world as it is when he drinks the rose water
Imagine him getting out of the fantasy world only to be trapped in another world where the drink is improved and now looks and tastes like normal water. 🤩
Well it’s better than the modi the dog running india
The prison within the prison, like the 1% in the Matrix
Or say inception. 😂😅
Imagine it's just a vr and there just drinking normal water
@@user-gi4ng6iu8g great.. But normal water won't make anyone crazy.
The drink makes everything you see is perfect, but could also have a side-effect in which you're rude in real life, though you won't notice yourself being rude since everything you see is perfect.
The only way this whole situation might make a bit of sens, 🤔.
The disconnect between perception and reality is ridiculous. How do businesses function, make money? What about the government? Are they only making profits through selling the pink water? How does their society get anything done? What are the gains? And how the hell can they even notice when anyone doesn't act under the influence of the drug?
Honestly, this pulled me out of the story.
@@ropale9730 totally agree with you, especially on the kind of last part where he saw the guy alive again. just wanted it to make a little bit of sense
It kinda doesn't make sense like the drugs is selective in it's effect (the water stays red whether he is under it's effect or not and he somehow can correctly perceive the warning video while under it's effect).
Furthermore, if everyone is rude while under its effect shouldn't the MC still gets beaten by them even if he is under its, especially since the effect of the drugs seems to only "beautify" people perception of reality and not radically altering (All the location, items and people exist and in the same proportion both in real world and in fantasy, only their condition differ). I mean i can understand if the drugs could fool MC to perceive his wife curse as praise, but i doubt it could fool MC perception if he is stabbed or hit his wife or others.
@@richardgaotama3466 @Richard Gaotama I suspect that because everyone's actions are based on what they perceive, they may not be resorting to physical violence because there's no perceived equivalent need to do so in their views. In addition, the altering of their viewed reality might even make their minds not comprehend getting killed or being attacked, plus the "resurrected" plumber could even not be there at all, just a figment of imagination based on part perception.
I think we happy few will help clear up how the drug works. Joy worked similar to this where everything was happy and jolly and nothing got done in England. Yet people were forced to take joy and the moment a bad batch was made it made people immune to the drug to the point they were "downers." The "downers" were the ones who saw the reality. The people on joy didn't. They'd even attack you for being a downer or doing anything against their rules. The water infested with this drug btw. Even forced to wear masks.
Drugs do different things to people and one of those is hallucinating events and actions. On the drug you think you are doing one thing but in actuality you aren't.
The red water literally changes a person's perceptions, the reason the boss was suspicious of him was because he was acting innocent and confused when in reality he was supposed to start trashing and cursing around just like any employee there
That only makes sense if the boss didnt drink the drink himself
@@YSFmemories He probably only uses a fake drink.
So it’s basically a metaphor “ to drink the kool-aid” as in believe everything the government tells you and follow the rules no questions asked your overlords will take care of you.
Nah pretty sure it's a hint at that one story in the bible that's the 2 other guys and abendego everything turned to wine then blood n people died
Yeah, I kind of enjoyed this
@@moneybilla Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, the three guys thrown into a furnace for not worshipping the idol of Nebuchadnezzar?
All facts respect that truly appreciate your comment
Except who believes that we live in a utopia where everything is great? No one believes that - including the government. So that's an incredibly simplistic interpretation, and wrong.
So the drug doesn't even fix people's hostile behaviour towards each other, it just alters their perception of it.
In my opinion, I see it being similar to alcohol for an alcoholic - at least symbolically. A drunk can move through a day and through life without a full understanding of wtf is going on. Their executive function and frontal lobe is hijacked and limited. They/we view the world through the eyes of someone who is inebriated. Often alcoholics drink to forget the pain, the bad things, and to escape to a “better place.” Just like the movie.
But take that away for the consummate alcoholic- and they go into withdrawals that could even kill them. They feel like utter shit during a bad Alcohol withdrawal. They feel pain, and their sensory perception is off. There pain perception is off. They can hallucinate. They shake. They hallucinate and become delirious. They don’t see the world for what it really is - they see the world through the lens of someone withdrawing from alcohol. The experience subjectively for them may be far worse than it actually is in reality. So what do they/we do when it hurts?
Find a way to get our hands on the devils drink. And take another sip. Just like in the movie.
That's an interesting theory and actually i thought the same ❤️
I hate being sober I feel so stupid.
@@treystephens6166 but you are not stupid when sober. Leave that stuff alone. One hour at a time. One day at a time. You can do it.
🎯 Wow you just described my neighbour to the T
@@treystephens6166 that's sad
This drink exists... its called wine
@@itsupport2751 drugs arent red. Nust wine
normal water went extinct 3 years ago. the bottled water I got from a super store had so much steroids in it, it forced my brain to get me puke all of it out.
😅
Its Dr Pepper
I don't know man. Thanksgiving parties get weird when some of my older relatives hit the sauce and start giving opinions on race.
I dont think the plot was fully thought out. Alot of potential to have been great. I liked that in the end it didn't clarify whether it was safe to drink the clear liquid or not.
Think it just represents alcohol and alcoholism
@@salmaabdullahgb there definitely is a factor of drug /alcoholism in the metaphor but I think it's more of a commentary on society. It made no sense that when he stopped drinking the liquid everyone behaved differently when they were still drinking the rose water. Then he killed the plumber, the plot fell apart completely.
@@leeannk4790 it makes sense. The guy drinking the red liquid sees the world in a better way, when he stops drinking, he realizes that everything was fake.
It's his perspective. It's not like people's behavior is gonna change...it's what you see that is changing
@@laurajanco2i I do see your point, i still think it was not executed well, In the world everyone is drinking the liquid, meaning everyone has a rosey out look on life. Their perceptions had not changed. The wife treating him with disdain and having an affair makes no sense.
@@leeannk4790 that makes sense too. It's like while on that liquid, you cannot control yourself and you act like an animal without knowing it, while you think you're being civil and acting like a respectable person.
It's still a metaphor for alchol and drugs, that make you act strangely and when you get out of it, you actually see the bad effect that they had on you.
He killed the guy, but the red liquid made him see that the guy was fine and wasn't doing anything with his wife.
While on that liquid, he always lived in his dreamland, while in reality his wife was probably abusing him, without him noticing it.
Wait, if the rose water makes you only see things as perfect then why would other people's behavior change when only you stop drinking it? Wouldn't they think everything was beautiful (in its own way) and still behave as before?
Nobody is acting like in the vision, is just how they see it
Bro are you even paying attention?
@Bottle of Water omg💀
I assume it's more like a vr reality when on the drug so every person is living 2 lives at once just their consciousness is at the happy place when they're subconsciously upset
I think what people see is different from one another, in the MC's world everything is perfect, in the Plumber's world he probably sees himself as the greatest plumber and lover, the wife maybe into having multiple husbands visit her and banging.
But don't know a lot of plot holes like the wife trying to get him to come home in a sweet tone, while most people are losing it, cold or rude and left to self interpretation.
Very very similar to the video game "We Happy Few", crappy world is altered to be perfect by drug that they're forced to take or cops come after you. Great game. Highly recommend it.
Was trying to see if anyone else here had this thought
Similar to alot of things, like brave new world prior to we happy few
I was hoping someone else was thinking the same thing
Too bad it's wayyyy too expensive for a game that's not even AAA
I was thinking the same thing! 😀
"Working overtime is Illegal" ... wait that doesn't sound so bad actually.
That depends on how much you get paid in this movie's world - which probably very low, or worse.
That Would be bad since you are capable of earning less money in your job then what is feasible
Then work at Walmart
I was a bit confused about the plot but now I think it's pretty simple. Rose water makes everything bad look good and without drinking it you can see the truth. For example, the wife was a cheater and abusive when he didn't drink the rose water and when he did drink it, she suddenly turned sweet and bubbly again so ig the rose water basically makes people hallucinate
but if she is drinking it too, why would she cheat on her husband?
@@inoox I'm not sure but I'm guessing he isn't an ideal husband either? The house is rundown and everything is falling apart so that means even if he goes to work he isn't doing much for the family. Him being a ideal husband could be a hallucination for all we know
This has too many plot holes
It was done very bad, good idea feels very lazy
@@ywjsiabvue ikr
That irony moment when people try to drink beers / alchohol drinks to get drunk just to get away from the reality or stress.
That's not what irony is.
Yeah
@isthatucedric ? Is right
@@isthatyoucedric7854 so right
it prevents you from action and gets ur government a ton of money, so yeah
At first I thought this was a pretty decent dystopia...he's married to a sweet, loving and pretty woman. They have a lovely apartment with plenty of friendly neighbours. He feel great and has lots of energy. He enjoys his job, his boss praises him and doesn't allow him to work overtime. What a great dystopia! ;)
Clear stupidity to escaping it 😏
Yeah, kinda seems like they forgot to bring up the downside to this dystopia.
I'd rather live in real world, not a fake and controlled world
@@farfalina I hate to bring it to you, but even our supposedly real world is full of control by governments and other institutions and individuals.
@@igordasunddas3377 yes, sadly that's the truth, but rather than the real world, all of this is, the life is just a tour
But I don't understand. If things are perfect when they drink it, and bad when they don't, is it reality always bad and the rose water just makes them think it's good? Plus like when he didn't drink it, his wife was all mad, does that mean she's always like that, and he just sees it different because he drank it? Like being on lsd and having a good trip and everything is awesome and not how it is in real life?
i would guess so. I am assuming, its like a body/mind seperation situation. When you drink it, your conciousness basically rewrites everything you perceive postively. Your body however acts negatively in the real world. So no one really knows what they are doing in the real world.
I would assume the wife and plumber, probably didn't realize they were actually doing it. Maybe another scenario was playing in their minds. I am only saying this, because his co workers weren't replying to him when he tried to talk to them. I think they couldn't reply to him, because they were physically doing something else. His mind perceived them to be sitting queietly next to them, and the co workers mind, probably perceived somethign similar. Now in reality, the co workers were shambling around wildly, and the protagonist may or may not have been doing the same, regardless he wouldn't be able to communicate properly with others.
At first it seemed like the fantasy land was basically the same as reality but perceived differently, but it slowly becomes apparent that the fantasy land is completely unhinged from reality. People who drink the kool-aid think they are nice and other people are nice, but they're all trash and some of the people they think are there aren't even there at all.
What for LSD, that movie is the representation of alcohol. Ever heard of that asian countries, especially north korea basically makes everyone drunk so they dont realise how miserable their Situation is
@@chris_aka_CP no omg tell me? And that doesn't make sense why not make everything legal everywhere then. Every type of drug I mean
@@yummychips_ tf -_-
Pretty much like the game We Happy Few where they take Joy
That was a great game
@@joshranged2 Still is.
@@joshranged2 sure was, is, and will continue to be
I just hope the whole game make out of feel and style of the 3rd DLC, story is good, game play was fun but DLC shows it could be legendary.
Was thinking the same thing
Moral of the story is:
You need to wake up and remove those rose colored glasses, and face reality head on.
There is always hope at the end of the tunnel.
Freedom lies behind that dark and dense forest, as long as you persevere and push through.
Clear, bright and sunny days awaits you after your struggles.
Have Faith and keep hope alive.
Good advice.
Or enjoy life and drink the rose water because you're going to die anyway. You might as well die happy.
If you don't wake up the plumber will be plumbing something else
Be my friend please.
Nah fuck that noise I'll stick with the red liquid
This is the perfect metaphor for addiction...
This took "wearing rose colored glasses." to a different meaning.
No the same meaning but to an extreme exaggeration
It's always the plumber or the mailman
LMAO you're not wrong.
Workaholic
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dont forget the Milkman!
The plot seems to be inspired from Aldous Huxley's novel Brave New World where the government would use mind controlling drugs to suppress all discent against them
Ah yes, SOMA. excellent read that leaves on a hanging, unanswered note of those who attempted to think for themselves and find some form of humanity of sorts
@@anthonyirwin6627 ya that was the name Soma and indeed ana amazing book
Another movie that features a similar plot is THX-1138 where it's a crime to NOT take the drugs that rob you of your humanity.
It's an old concept, going all the way back to the Island of the Lotus Eaters.
I hoped it would go deeper, like Stanislav Lem's Futurological congress
Wouldn't the rose water only affect how he acts? Why is everybody suddenly so grumpy?
Because it's not an actual drug, it's a metaphor for propaganda.
Because everyone on the rose water acts grumpy, and sees it as if they were sweet.
To try and answer honestly, think of it like this: from the perspective of those drinking the rose water, everything they do is perfect, everything around them is perfect, and they have zero inhibition nor care for the real world around them. Think of when someone is drunk; they tend to overshare, they have an almost manic confidence, everything is funny and social no matter what is actually said. For people on the rose water, they feel that everything they do is kind, and wonderful, and great, so they have no filter when speaking in reality.
.. The truth is that making them act grumpy and rude was a cinematic choice that's not totally logical, but I like to think it's rooted in that idea of their altered consciousness destroying their sense of right and wrong, so there's no reason to expend any energy to be polite..
Ok but are we gonna talk about how big their earpods are?😂😂😂
The apple logo is reversed lol
@@francis9154 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro the film is mirrored
Okay I thought it was just me XD
The Futurological Congress by Stanisław Lem is a book with very similar story. I highly suggest reading it for anybody interested in futuristic-ish comedy
One of my favorite books and I thought of it the whole time I was watching this too.
It was made into a movie called "The Congress".
Much like the game We Happy Few. "Remember to take your Joy!"
I thought about the same game lol
I think the red drink doesn't so much make everyone think they're in the same perfect joyous world but that it forces you into a delusion of what you personally would think of as a perfect reality. Basically everyone see themselves as the main character of there own delusion. So his idealized world is one where everyone is blissfully happy and joyous but his wife's may be one were she can get anything she asks for and on demand and the plumber maybe as a complete chad able to bed all the ladies (who knows). When you have all these different people completely oblivious to what's actually going on around them, then the world shown when he stops drinking is what you might get. Most are so consumed by their delusions that they're walking around like zombies. Possibly it's that those whose dream life is mostly constant with reality are able to see more of reality and interact with it more closely while those with a dream life more inconstant with reality are the ones walking around mindless, unable to really interact at all.
This makes the most sense! So the story was from his perspective of a perfect reality
I'm confused why were those two men the only ones who got the message and how did the other girl have wifi and stuff food?
Don't drink water for 3 days and you'll be able to escape this fantasy world!
Haha like hack.
This reminds me of a movie that I don't remember much of. I only remember this scene where a man with some mental ilness (or few) didn't take his medicine one day. He suddenly saw his place being a total mess and later it was revealed that he had loads of meat that he probably ate, not even realising it (while on meds) And if I'm not mistaken, it was human meat and he was killing people.
I like the cat in that movie
@@twanvandeven5024 cat in a hat with Michael Myers, great psychological thriller
Ryan Reynolds, right? It was called "The Voices."
Soylent green
As someone that's depresso, I would choke that red water down as fast as possible.
I was kinda thinking the same damn thing.
Why not? It's just alcohol without alcohol. It seems like a win-win
@@rayarhi I dont even know, what you are talking about xD
@@pocketbread7535 Commented that on the wrong comment 💀
@@rayarhi Hahaha, yeah that happends to me too, all the time =D
Shades of the Matrix...real world vs. drugged world
They're both kinda sinister retellings of Platos Allegory of the Cave, tbh.
yup
This drink is available in India. Its called 'Rooh Afza sharbat'
That's....not what this red liquid is according to canon...........
Lmao
Was thinking of the desi drink Rooh Afza and Jam e Shirin as well.
In south africa we get hamdard rooh afza. Falooda and rose milkshake is also very popular 😋
That stuff is pretty good!
The man not drinking "normal" water is the whole point of the movie. Fake or true, you can't trust anyone blindly anymore once you know you've been lied to all your life.
That's why Big Pharma will never be trusted again because of the last few years of lies and coercion.
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The three people in the background looks like two of them are forcing the third one to drink the liquid I don't know if anyone else caught this
It’s like we look at reality as the perfect thing despite its trashy appearance and think to ourselves it’s perfect but when we get out of that dream, reality hits us hard that nothing is perfect unless you choose to look at it that way that doesn’t hurt you because you accept and embrace it
Is it just me that would voluntarily drink the rose liquid? Living in fantasy word, why bloody not!
Unfortunately, no.
There are a lot of sheep who would willingly let go of free will and their freedom.
@@salekhossain1582 Will you choose happiness and satisfaction in life or freedom and everyday torture?
@@jaideepshekhar4621 all life is suffering.
I would choose suffering each day.
@@salekhossain1582 Well a dream is not suffering.
@@jaideepshekhar4621 dream is not suffering?
Dreams are suffering to those who want to make their dreams come true.
Isn't this kind of the plot of We Happy Few?
Only everyone else also takes the Joy pills/water and get after you if you aren't acting happy.
The rose water isn't exactly a drug, it's a metaphor for propaganda. I'm guessing they had the CCP in mind when they wrote it, which is why they drink it almost reverently, like they're singing the national anthem. At least, that's how I see it.
take your joy *TAKE YOUR JOY*
This whole movie makes me think of We Happy Few, the country you're in had a war and lost it. The people were so depressed by the lost that goverment forced people to take pills that made everyone happy. Just like this movie, if you aren't under the pills effect, the whole city is trashed and ugly. But very nice and pretty when under the pills effects.
Only difference is that people who hasn't taken the pill are feeling down, grumpy and violent, but the ones who take it are happy and cheery.
What's interesting is that this drug could have been non-dystopian if it simply wasn't forced upon people.
Ok... Why does him not drinking the water affect other people's behavior
perhaps their behavior is not affected by the water, instead it affects their perception of the world around them
yea it makes no sense. He seems to be happy while on the water and acts nice, but no one else does.
Yeah it makes no sense.
Like he just killed someone but then they're alive.
perhaps their behavior is not affected by the water, instead it affects their perception of the world around them
@@entityunknown732 i think it's an expression of perseption after he drinks the liquid rather than reality
That sign in the subway is confusing as hell
It's confusing what the rose water actually does, mainly because of the scenes with his wife when the effects wear off, because she is still drinking the rose water, and the plumber also, so why is she acting terribly and why is she cheating on him with the plumber, while pregnant no less? If it changes your behaviour as well as your perception of reality, if you come off those effects that wouldn't affect anyone else
Lol, I did some searching because some elements were suspiciously familiar, it's HK's version of Black Mirror. And made in 2019. And the liquid is red. A rather obvious parody of how HKers perceive CCP and mainlanders.
The script could have made him see the other people behave normally since they perceive others as being friendly. But I think that since it's a HK show, it is trying to say that mainlanders have 2 sides, the nice side they present to the world, and the nasty side they conceal. The red water deludes them into thinking well of each other and themselves, but in reality, they are still nasty.
Red liquid?! Ohh, wine mega pint. I got it.
A MEGA PINT
the quotes that i always remember from my professor , if you surrounded by crazy people, there's only 2 choice . become one of them or get out from there.
So far this is my favorite movie recap of all keep up the good work dude 😀👍
This is reminding me so much of We Happy Few
The liquid looks yummy😁
Rooh Afza
@@sarasyed1097 yea it was Rooh Afza😅
@@smitprmr Only we desi's know that 😂🙈
@@sarasyed1097 Rose afraid?
@@talker09 lol what?
Rooh Afza The drink is commonly associated with the month of Ramadan, in which it is usually consumed during iftar. It is sold commercially as a syrup to flavour sherbets, cold milk drinks, ices, and cold desserts such as the popular falooda. The name Rooh Afza is sometimes translated as "refresher of the soul".
-wikipedia
What if not drinking him is making him think like all is not perfect ?
Think of what he really experiences as a line in time. When he drinks the rose water what he really experiences gets pushed out of the main line into a parallel line (Which gains control of the body.) that his base self doesn't have access to. While this happens his base self lives in a fantasy version of what his body is experiencing. When he doesn't drink the rose water he switches back to real life. While the main line exists at all times, the parallel line only exists when he drinks the rose water. The water just puts you in a fantasy world while a copy of your personality lives your life. I'm not sure if they are controlling the copy somehow or are trying to condition the main personality to be obedient though. It doesn't explain everything but it is the closest I can come to without just saying it's magic.
What a convoluted way of saying the rose water is a hallucinagenic.
bro "fantasy world" doesn't literally mean he gets isekai'd, it just means he was drugged up and hallucinating but now his head is clear, no more "fantasies"
@@UnknownGamer40464 That doesn't explain why what they're experiencing from the drug and the way that they're actually behaving is different. Plus I don't know where do you get this isekai idea, you must have not have read what I wrote.
@@siral2000 It doesn't have to explain it, the plot is just inconsistent.
There are no two worlds, it's metaphorical for the "world" of hallucinations.
@@UnknownGamer40464 I never said there was two worlds. I merely used the words "fantasy world" to refer to that state. My theory maybe wrong but you're comment in no way demonstrates why, because you completely misunderstood what my original comment was about.
For those that didn't get the subtext, this is a Hong Kong tv series, and the choice of using RED for the liquid is not a coincidence.
Ok what is the name of this series?
Strange that everyone is high but in reality not. Like if everyone drinks the rose water why was the wife in reality shouting it would have been much better if the people were still on high mode but the environment was a disaster
Yeah I don’t get this
The wife probably THINKS she’s acting normal
@@BigBrainGamer58 To me it seems they THINK they’re acting normal but in reality their true personalities are acting out as their subconscious/conscious is living out this fantasy
So the question is did his wife cheat on him or not ?
I didn't get it either. So were both realities fake: the happy one and the unhappy one?
I took it as she did cheat. when he took the drink his perception of what he was seeing changed and they probably lied as well.
@@alexiscarrington9747 that's what I thought too
OK for those who don’t know back on the PlayStation three there was a game called haze it looks to me like this movie took direct inspiration from the game honestly I suggest that you guys check it out it is a beautiful game with a very interesting story
Ah yes, Pyro vision from TF2 but more mild.
Is it in a series or a full movie cause I really want to know what happened next
Reminds me of the game, We Happy Few
I knew it that that plummer can't be trusted 🤣🤣🤣
If everyone is acting unhappy even though they're drinking the red water when he isn't, that doesn't make sense. It makes me feel like it's medication to prevent hallucinations and paranoia instead... I don't think this premise was properly thought out 🧐
I think I'd drink it. That world doesn't seem so bad.
same lol😭😂
They tried to kill him, including his own wife.
It's possible the movie is being seen from Pyro's point of view, so when he drinks the rose water, it's like looking at the world through rose colored glasses. Instead of him seeing reality, his wife hates him and people are rude, the water makes him delusional and see the other's actions as smiles and kindness. It's also possible that in his area the people he met don't drink the water, or that it works for some but not all
so why doesn/t the wife drink it as well?
See also: Equilibrium (film), "This Perfect Day" (novel by Ira Levin)
Definetely symbolizes acholoism or drugs. Taking either leads you to bliss/happiness at the cost of everything around you, but you're probably unaware of it for that high. Take it away and the withdrawals and reality crash into you.
Its actually a movie about the CCP
You have passed stage 1, welcome to stage 2
Oh my gosh are you quoting ownage pranks?
Ohhhh this is the movie for the game 'We Happy Few'. How nostalgic.
Can we appreciate that this story is almost the same to 'we happy few'
I wonder if the food or air we breathe is also making us hallucinating right now
they're spraying stuff into the air all the time
If this is a hallucination, I'd be appalled to find out about the reality
That, no I don't think the government would actually fill the air with hallucinations, besides nothing is perfect or extremely bad in this reality, it's mixture of both.
Governments want people to feel perfection about world so we aren't cautious.
Whatsoever we see everything, good or bad, light or dark, so it's impossible to assume Government controls the air.
@@yeboxxxchannel2505 Are you sure you are not hallucinating? Wake up, wake up, wake up 🤣😜
@@yoyonew9425 I am MORE than sure that such hallucination would be impossible to implement AND that this hallucination was NOT intended by the government, IF there even was any hallucination.
How about YOU wake up and stop manipulating people?
I thought I was the only one questioning our world and who is actually controlling us.
police A : we should have a gun
police B : what gun?
police A : water gun
The main since of this film - pure water is so valuable for university!
This is basically We the happy few made into a movie very interesting.
We happy few is literally based off the movie they live in
I want that red water… I don’t feel like cleaning my room today. Back in my day we only had beer 🙄
I drink the kool-aid all the time specially the sharkleberry fin flavor 😋
In the end the lady be like: he is standing there menacingly
I'm just wondering what ingredients they add in red liquid ?
Literally what the combine try to get you to do in Half-Life 2 episode 1
_"Don't drink the water. They put something in it to make you forget. I don't even remember how I got here."_
I get what the metaphor is based on, but unfortunately the rules of this world make no sense.
If the drink makes you experience happiness then why would the reality be that everyone is miserable and violent?
It literally makes no sense to do this if it has no effect on the actual members of society outside of their own minds.
The drink doesn’t make you experience happiness. It changes your perception of reality like a strong drug. Different people would have different reaction. I don’t see any difference like how Russians have historically used alcohol for control. Function enough to do slave labor but not enough to rebel.
The amount of people that don't realize a similar thing like this is actually happening as we speak is disappointing but then label you a conspiracy theorist like protocol.
Its like “we happy few” instead of some red water your character takes a happy/joy pill.
This movie reminds me of the video game we happy few but instead of pills there's rose water. 🤔
People should still act like they're under the rosewater even if he's not, right? Then again, maybe we're seeing things from his head, so his wife ISN'T acting as terrible as he sees and his boss isn't that bad with his business, but the withdrawal symptoms of the rosewater include "reverse hallucinations" of sorts.
Other way around all of them are in a Trance were everything is well Good perfect After he stop the drinking the effect losend and he woke to reality like the other woman how the future is how human Lost sense of reality the organising became Chaos it happend before with the woman he saw in the end shes like him waken up knowing this aint real not accepting that everything was a lie and fake he believed to habe his life a lie his love a lie with his wife was to much the other guards chased him they known some got out of the Trance they forced the people to drink its the facade to keep everything up the woman he meets in the end of the movie she was like him it happend to her two so the guards
The sad part is the "dystopian" version of the city without the red water is still cleaner and more orderly than most big cities in the US.
It's a joy to be among We Happy Few.
I wouldn't be surprised if this happened irl already
part 2 of the movie is him "escaping" but he is in prison after getting caught 😉
wher can i watch movie? is it japanese movie
@@dataworks4473 I believe it's Hong Kong Cantonese
Hey, do you know where can I find this movie?
He just stands there.... MENACINGLY!!
That lady at the beginning coming out of nowhere scared me a bit ngl😭
Interesting take on "Looking at the world through rose colored glasses" and "drink the kool-aid", I like
George Orwell moment:
There’s a local commercial cement and manufacturing company with basically the same logo, but the left is gray and the right is blue
This feels like Mr Aldous Huxley's novel "Brave New World."
Either kool-aid or gatorade
Kool-aid
Gatorade
This is like the matrix where you either live in a delusion/fantasy or swallow the red pill and reality.
What's this movie called?
03:11 lol imagine working overtime is illegal
South Korean TV series titled THE REPUBLIC episode II (2019)? Cool. Added to my list.
GREAT episode review.
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where can i watch this?
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TOO LATE! Eveybody been drinkin' da koolaid for a while now.
"shatters to pieces" is a great tautology.
plot twist: the drink is red wine and everyone is just drunk
Nice video