Do we need to push the legs in Taiji forms?
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- čas přidán 28. 02. 2022
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Why do some masters say we need to push or Deng the legs or even use the waist to apply force in training, but some say no?
I answer the question from my point of view in this video.
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🤔 So if I understand Sifu Liang's explanation correctly, there's 2 (or 3) kinds of form practice in his lineage:
1. lian jia (练架): more focus on relaxation & settling, and building up a certain "quality"
2. yong jia (用架): more focus on making use of the above "quality" , and using the Jin (I.e. refined force)
a) chang quan (长拳): more drawn-out movement & channeling of Jin
b) shao hou xiao jia (少侯小架): more compact movement & channeling of Jin
In all of the above types, there's no deliberate pushing of the legs,
Although in type 2 the nature of the forms may cause the legs to "push", especially when releasing Jin stored in the legs
You are right.
Excellent explanation on the differences of these two qualities. I like that the way you communicate these ideas has evolved. Very grateful for your videos.
Love it! Very confusing to competition stylists and many new agey western practitioners but to the traditionalists out there this makes complete sense. Thanks for all the great content.
For his articulation and clear distinctions among the crucial, fundamental principles, for his perspicacity and sense of proportions, for the respect and grace and knowledgeability with which he approaches taijichuan, I applaud Master Liang Dehua most enthusiastically. He is a true teacher !
Wow, that was amazing clarification. Thank you.
Very importent contribution, thank you Sifu.
This question has been bothering me for a long time
Thank you for your explnation
Good pointers, much thanks!
My teacher says to me: relax, let go, turn the waist. I'm working on it.
When he does it, it's barely noticeable because it's so soft, but the whip effect it creates is truly astonishing for a 78 year old man. Admittedly, he's being doing Taiji for 50 years!
I'm feeling my way into new territory with some of this, so your explanation provides great insight, thank you.
Thank you Sifu, now is more clear to me why, when and how its apply the principles.
Very helpful. Thank you!
Awesome teaching and lineage
Thank you so much Liang. You confirmed my intuition. It works. I am very grateful for your lesson. You teach us one corner. The good student can figure out the rest of the corners. Perhaps this is the meaning of 'closing'.
Watch mayweathers bag work. You will learn there taiji then doing taiji
It is so refreshing to hear other teachers talk about "not pushing off the feet". I've been writing about this for some time and a number of "teachers" have told me I was wrong. In our system, all movements start at the feet and the feet remain soft and hollow, while the legs are very "song".
What is ur system and lineage exactly. Can u link me to more detailed information please ? xie xie
Thank you for sharing your knowledge so generously
could we say in another way
when we use Li, we use the legs by pressing the feet on the ground to move our center and then the rest of the body.
When we use Jin or Qi, we use our center pressing it into the ground through the feet to move the body and energy : when we start to press with the Dan Tian on the ground, the legs do not lengthen to engage in an eccentric muscular effort, then in the second part the back leg can lengthen while maintaining the sensation of the eccentric effort: thus the body does not rise, there is no muscular retraction and the Qi flows freely throughout the body and outside, the body remains in unity from the center and one can circulate the Qi freely inside and outside .
This makes huge sense. I had been using the legs to issue power and have now switched to the centre of my body with the legs supporting the actions. Many thanks
Hi Master Liang. I was wondering if you spent anytime with Sifu Nima King of the Chu Shong Tin Wing Chun style during the Martial Man Camp? Reason why I'm asking, is that in his lineage of WC, they focus on energy moving up the spine to the back part of the brain. Sifu Nima says that if done correctly, there will be a feeling of "expansion" in the spinal vertebrae and the joints. They also discourage pushing of the legs but rather emphasize moving from the centre of mass. So I'm wondering, when you make references to the use of the spine or back, is it the same or similar to this expansion in the vertebrae explanation? And if so, is this idea of an "expansion" sensation the same as "peng?"
Also, may I ask if you need the Baduajin and other Nei gongs of your system to develop internal skill, or is the form and Zhang Zhuang enough? If the Baduajin and Nei Gong is essential, may I also ask if is presented in the beginning or later in the program of your online academy?
Thanks Master Liang.
Thank you for making free videos to teach us who have no masters to learn from anywhere near us! When practicing the form alone, should I not move until my yi is able to move me?
So first use training form, to increase your nei jin, and after the nei jin is becoming big, when you use the usage form, the force would be becoming explosive
But if you just use usage form from the start, the fajin wont be that far. it can be increased overtime, but it is faster to increase the explosive power by doing training form
I think that when you use yi more, you can understand
Use your brain more😂. I like how all taiji people are in a bubble.... i was also like u. Taiji does work but first find a teacher who has really skill. He has it not
'He has it not.' Am I reading your comment correctly that Sifu Liang does not have the skill? I hope that I am interpreting your statement incorrectly.
Sifu Liang's skill and knowledge may not be matched. If you know Sifu Liang then you know how incredibly special he is.
Maybe its to early for you to teach others
Its same with everyone. They know the principles but still know nothing. Hes talking 12 min of everything except deng 😂