Dragons, Divine Parents, Heroes and Adversaries: A complete cosmology of being
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- This lecture describes the world as a place of action and value (as opposed to a place of objective things), and lays out the manner in which religious thinking is descriptive of that world. It provides a good introduction to Dr. Peterson's other lectures.
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Jordan: “I’ll start with something that is rather easy to understand.”
Me: “Thank you.”
@Sparky Runner yes
Lolwut
JP has transformed my way of thinking. I am a 64 years professor of statistics, father of five children.
Sophistically five children is above normal...
@@MichaelDHockenberry and your point is...?
@@jainemiller2375 I believe I may have miss spoke, I attempted to have humor and do so most of the time... I reckon this time it didn’t work. I used the wrong words.
I was attempting to relate; since he is a professor of STATISTICS and has five children, this would not fit into the (whelm of the world) statistics of average children or something like that no big deal.
good, hes brilliant.
ß,#∆
This man saved me from nihilism!
Same here, roughly speaking.
Same
Huzzah!
welcome back to the living
I wish you all the best of luck with your new route to a good life! Remember that falling, and then overcoming the obstacle, equals growing and transcending : )
Professor Peterson, you have an absolutely uncanny ability to dole out an incredible amount of information and are able to parse it all out into digestible bits. It's truly wonderful. Thank you sir.
I felt the exact same way although I cannot express myself as eloquently as you have.
Johnny G - "... in a hot humid dead place". You mean like the God forsaken leftist education system?
You spoke my mind!
School is a cargo cult.
"People wouldn't line up for a lecture, and they wouldn't pay money..." If only you knew then, Professor... : ))
thousands pay to hear this man. I am so excited about this.
There with you...
Was thinking this exact same thing just now.
I laughed out loud when he said that. :)
haha i looked in the comments for this because I thought the same haha
"You are not the chaos. You are the thing that can engage in the transformation of structure from chaos" - Jordan Peterson
Thank you for finding time to write your comment!
This man is saving my life.
Me too
Me too! Sure, we do the saving ourselves, but the saving ourselves probably wouldn't happen without an outside influence, and certainly wouldn't happen under flawed directives, so yes- he is saving us.
@@whatdoyoulivefor735 .True. A lot of people get this idea that Peterson is trying to be some kind of messiah or cult leader. All he is doing is clarifying the psychology of the human subconscious, what motivates us, why things go astray, etc. Thing is, nobody talks about it these days but it's nothing that he's come up with on his own. Now that you've watched this video, a good book to read is The Origins And History Of Consciousnesss. You'll understand his lectures on a different level. You'll see where he gets all this stuff.
@@chaddad1236 perfectly said, and thank you for the reccomendation, I'm checking it out right now 👍
@@chaddad1236 That's not completely true. "Nothing he come up with on his own" he does suffer and that will move him.
I have watched like 20 Peterson's videos lately and if there's one thing I can I say I have learned is that he bloody loves Pinocchio
and lobsters
And The Lion King.
Well there’s a lot of ‘code’ in pop culture....especially with like Disney and such
Aaaand beauty and the beast
Not to mention the bible📚
Dr Peterson, I grew up in the Russian Orthodox Church and became disillusioned with religion because I felt like the people around me were more hurt by the ideologies than helped. I stopped identifying with this faith and moved on to other places researching many different philosophies. I went through many modes of thought, from nihilism to new age woo. At times I put down my search as wishful thinking or nastalgia to replace the religion I had lost faith in. You have offered the world a lens I have felt so deeply for a very long time but wasn't able to articulate it. Thank You. Your work is very important.
Julia Nelson Well welcome back Julia, you pretty hippy : ]
I’m wondering why you think your Russian Orthodox Ideology was harmful to you and others ?
I grew up Orthodox. I understand what you mean. I'm still Orthodox, but I wrestle with doubt. Confession and communion always have a positive effect on me, so I keep going.
Julia Nelson i feel similarly bc from what ive seen at times people still hide behind religion lets say Christianity vs actually take moments in the year to see how they are ignoring the suffering of people/ various groups. And sometimes, examples of inequity can be so clear that i wish pple found practical ways to mobilize or take a few meaningful actions to stand up for higher values other than just pertaining to their work, family, social groups or church. But perhaps we havent evolved as a society yet more in that direction. It is easy to say i go to church regularly versus practically live those values & equate the experience, value & suffering of another being with your own & do something in that cause. Overall hwr, i understand 'loving your neighbor as yourself' or 'loving a stranger as your brother' is easier said than done. At times religion / organized religion & the customs involved seem to take away from the activity of actually living out those values. Not to mention seems to keep people segregated & inactive versus actively seeking to improve society.
u did Johnny! less than i did
This really has been one of the most memorable times of my life to witness this man. If the historians are any kind of people, I'm sure history will credit him with a shift in the hearts and minds of those who had previously had given up. He seems to be able to articulate with perfect precision a verbal cure to many of the intellectual woes of the world. I never thought I'd say that about a lecture but clearly, despite the infinite number of snares in the universe to get caught on, he's found the one absolutely right way to express himself.
Well said
They’ll more likely crucify him -( persecute at every opportunity ) However I’m hoping you’re right. He’s the most brilliant man I’ve ever heard or read, with only one caveat I think he is slightly naive when it comes to evil, it’s an odd claim to stake considering his breadth of knowledge and real life work as a psychiatrist. I stand by it, because he is slow to truly see with clarity how deep the corruption of Western governments have become, he might be coming round though. I hope.
i'm so glad to listen to someone speak about abstract sounding concepts like this who isn't a bleeding postmodernist or relatavist
Listening to Peterson talk from a musician's perspective is truly inspiring. Very thankful to share the same mental space of him and to have the ability to access large databanks of his thought without ever meeting him. Life is pretty incredible if you stop and think about it.
Yup
Hundred percent brother. The days of needing a mentor is over. We have them all around us.
yes the internet and technologies is something worth fighting for
LOL
Yes! He helped me to discover my true personality as a creative and that I don't have to feel guilty about it. I'm finally giving myself permission to do music.
"It's certainly possible we're more than the things that frighten us. If we weren't we wouldn't be here. - Jordan Peterson. " This has to be one of the most profound statements of logic at a fundamental level.
It literally says that those who are still living are more than those who chose to opt out of life. But that's just my take on it
What is this.... video number 7 I'm on? I can't stop watching. And I bought the self authoring suite for myself and my brother (also a millenial) last night.
Adelle Ramcharan I did the very same thing, but I'm currently on video 26...
Some advice, just start a journal and copy down the promps from the suite along with any other useful prompts and questions you can find. I find the self-authoring 'web-app' (that saves your writing and such) to be kind of annoying.
+Adelle Ramcharan How did the suit go? I'm trying to buy it. I live abroad and I don't use paypal or have a credit card. I'm already in contact with someone from support, so I hope that they have another option for me to pay for the suit.
Dwight Dunker You can get it for free.. watch his video about his message to millenials. Honestly, I did not find it worth the price for me..since he basically explained it in the video, you could just write your answers in a journal. But I see how it could benefit some people. Up to you! Good luck
Adelle Ramcharan I missed it. It expired December 7th 2016. Too bad.
Mr. Peterson is a Shaman. His lectures are terrifying in their intensity and honesty. I would be scared to meet someone with the ability to peer into my soul. But...
like a post-christ dostoevsky
yae peterson has seen so much shit and knows how people really are.
Not me, I would love to have him peer into my soul and thus granting me the ability to also see his own. That is a gift beyond words.
The Pinocchio analogy reminds me of a Kierkegaard passage;
"When around one everything has become silent, solemn as a clear, starlit night, when the soul comes to be alone in the whole world, then before one there appears, not an extraordinary human being, but the eternal power itself, then the heavens seem to open, and the I chooses itself or, more correctly, receives itself. Then the soul has seen the highest, which no mortal eye can see and which can never be forgotten; then the personality receives the accolade of knighthood that ennobles it for an eternity. He does not become someone other than he was before, but he becomes himself. The consciousness integrates, and he is himself. Just as an heir, even if he were heir to the treasures of the whole world, does not possess them before he has come of age, so the richest personality is nothing before he has chosen himself; and on the other hand even what might be called the poorest personality is everything when he has chosen himself, for the greatness is not to be this or that but to be oneself, and every human being can be this if he so wills it."
So beautiful. That gives me hope. Thank you
False hope is destructive.;.
.;. True hope for the best hope Faith, Hope & charity........
Gird up!! And sell your robe ..... perhaps?
Xoxo
JP is the physical manifestation of the images kierkegaard is writing, in my opinion.
That's amazing writing, thank you for sharing it with us.
Ahhh Doctor! How wrong you were! As I get ready to board an airplane, fly to Kansas City to pick up my 80 year old dad and get there in time to hear every word you might say at the Uptown theatre on October 4th, 2018. Every bit of this I am managing on my own, every penny from my pocket, I who on SSDI $719. Per month. Would not miss this for ANYTHING! So... there!
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29:45 - "Everyone has a plan until they're punched in the face." - Michael Tyson
Dr. Peterson you are an inspiration. You may or may not know it, but you've lit a fire that will burn long after you have left this planet. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
A teacher worthy of the name "teacher". I learned a lot. Symbols fascinate me and I love hearing them unpacked, especially as I'm familiar with the alchemical ones and a lot of those kinds of details.
A man on his own hero’s journey. He is one in a galaxy. Thanks for this video.
Thank you, Internet Universe, for having brought this person Peterson into my life! Best transmitted true meaning of life since Carl Gustav Jung!
If there is anyone that could possibly convince me that there is a god, it's this guy. He's opening my eyes more than anyone before. Thanks SJWs! Without you, I would never have found these brilliant lectures.
@Cosma Alex right ! Right!
@Cosma Alex eh
God's tho. It's not simple
Where are you at in your search 🔍 Dr
"You have to deal with the consequences of eating" is the most eloquent way to talk about shitting i've ever heard xD
I love how he verbalizes things. I wish I had his oratory skills. I haven't finished listening yet but it seems like one of my new favourite lectures by him. What an interesting dinner guest he would be.
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this is gonna be good
I love Jordan Peterson so much. He reinvigorated my love of knowledge and learning. He makes me happy every time I just listen to him speak.
Exquisite lecture! Great in depth analysis and explanations. Being a person of Slavic origin and a believer of Slavic native faith, I am amazed how much of this lecture resonate to my own tradition.
Душан Божић dule clean your room
He looks Slavic to me. I have a half Slavic grandmother and my grandfather was an immigrant from Yugoslavia. Those eyebrows...
Truth resonates to every tradition based in truth. God lives.
This old gal has learned so much from Jordan Peterson 😎👍🏻💙
I have been binge watching every kind of video, interviews, attacks, lectures, etc., in June 2020. In the UK 🇬🇧 in lockdown, self isolation. Whatever your views or opinions one CAN’T denied his enthusiasm for his subject and consistence of beliefs. As Aristotle said: “Opinion involves belief (for without belief in what we opine, we cannot give an opinion) and in the BRUTES, though we often find imagination, we NEVER find belief” and he ABSOLUTELY believes we, as a civilised society, can do better. 🤗
Those last 20 mins are actually life-changing
The best lecture on CZcams, bar none. No one makes abstract concepts as accessible as Peterson.
The best professor i've never had. Thank God for CZcams.
That is a seriously impassioned talk. Thought provoking. Would be funny if the camera panned out and there was only one person in the audience.
the janitor mopping the floor xD
man that's such a funny thought
I'd like to say that he'd continue the talk regardless, but he always talks to individuals not cameras....
Too funny
@@xx-ct5yh did you forget to take your medication?
Its amazing that my favorite youtuber is a university professor. I cant listen enough of this guy.
This one is just beyond my expectations of what a man of science could dare to explain. So deep, but precise and truthful at the same time... it just thrilled me completely.
"Let's pretend Monopoly is a reasonable facsimile of reality."
"Yes, that would be amusing."
Lmao.
@@susampson278 The only thing to be afraid of is Cultural Marxism and the puppet masters who drive it. Useful idiots and leftists trolls are just pathetic, though.
It reminded me of those alien cartoons XD
@One for all jesus that's condescending to women.
One for all And it’s so counter-productive. It’s basically saying that if woman want to compete against men in a fair environment than they have to be given a handicap.
That needs to be an xkcd comic
The Good Dr will be the ULTIMATE eccentric aged professor!!! Muttering wisdom and gesticulating as walks the hallways!!! The Man!!!
wow this brought tears to me eyes. transcendent experience to watch the lecture itself.
Love how he gives the distinction between creative and new age thinking, right up front!!
Jordan Peterson is a real life super hero! 💯💪🏼🙏🏼
Dean Hettig 💯
I love this one . I love the details , complexity , and his ability to self argue and self correct mid point . Brilliant.
Absolutely brilliant!...thank you for your depth of knowledge and insight. A bright light in the darkness...
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I am pounding hours and hours of your thought Dr. Peterson, thank you. I aim to soon start work on your web site. Truth on so many levels is truly a pleasure. Thanks again.
I've been watching Dr Peterson for a while now, and I think I could safely say I've probably clocked up about 50 hours of his talks and lectures. Amazing guy, he's the next level for me. However, I've never read anyone comment on how he moves his hands while he talks. Spellbinding movements at times - I rewind and watch some of his gestures over and over. I'd love to hear his take on it!
They are the embodiment of his thoughts, or he is thinking out loud while drawing the image with his hands and fingers...
He commented once as to why in one of the biblical series lectures. Something about the body's connection to subconscious. It went something like "...as you can see from watching me talk".
It just shows how passionate he is. I think maybe because he cant walk around like he usually always does he uses more upper body gestures.
I’d say he’s literally orchestrating his thoughts.
This lecture is my favorite of all the Peterson lectures I've watched.
This and 'Tragedy vs. Evil' are my favorites. I literally listen to them at least once a week, and have for almost a year now.. these are no doubt life changers.
Jadel Quiz Mine too. I come back to this one regularly.
I like "tragity vs evil", and "at his finest", although this is pretty good.
@@rhettmelton tragity vs evil is absolutely awesome in brilliance.
Somehow I feel as if my soul already knew a lot of this stuff already. I'm NOT saying I'm a know it all, I'm simply saying this all seems oddly familiar to me. Thank God we have JP to refresh our memories and enlighten us!
Because truth is truth.
@@kevinkinney5445 Absolutely, but also these things have become a part of our very being, by nature and are typically only distorted or altered by aspects of life outside of us, whether it be good, bad or otherwise.
The best communicators don't say something new, they only say old things in a new way.
All knowledge is known, it is simply brought back into remembrance.
for me its more like dr.peterson can express my deep thoughts better then i can
Most of my life was chaos. I didn’t know who I was, where I had been, or where I was going. 4 years ago I found a Bible and my belief system brought order, purpose and structure to the past, present, and future. About 6 months ago I found Jordan Peterson and began being interested in Psychology and philosophy to make sense of things and it has been life changing. Theology and Jordan Peterson have given me order and every day I find myself bring order from chaos and it’s made me a better husband, father, and co worker.
Thanks Jordan for all you do. Praying or your health
his words are so wise and minds are so open and balanced. his lecture is million times better than any priests.
What Dr Peterson describes beginning at 10:14 is a framework known in economics as Praxeology. It was developed by Ludwig von Mises in the first half of the XX century. It is amazing how great minds arrive at the same conclusions coming from completely different places.
Wow, I just finished watching a video on the Mises Institute website. I marked it as a place to explore further, and here you are three years ago pointing the way.
Jordan, to quote my favorite band, your "prying open my third eye". Thankyou so much. Life is so much more than the reality we see and experience. Life is the meaning we give it, the responsibility we voluntarily take on to better ourselves. I'm understanding this now more than ever.
I thank you Mr. Peterson for helping me rediscover the reasoning I once had but used in a destructive way. My approach was to stop reasoning almost completely which made me empty, depressed. I came over your videos by chance and listening to you made me realize that I can't ignore using my reasoning but use it in a better way. Thank you!
Jordan Peterson introduced us to the online 'Master Class' with this content. This has been more valuable in my understanding of the world and of human beings than all the college classes I've done up to this point combined.
Edit: A thank you is in order for the good professor. Dr. Peterson, thank you good sir.
FYI I almost accidentally typed 'food processor' instead of 'good professor'. Good times.
One of the best talks of Jordan Peterson I’ve seen, he hits so many of the topics he habitually talks about, and as per usual, in such an incredibly eloquent and concise way
this man is sooo incredibly brilliant I have no words to express what it means
LOL
Now people line up & wait in order to pay money to listen to his Lectures
ALL AROUND THE WORLD!!!
Eileen Taff just came from his birthday lecture at the Ryman auditorium in Nashville, TN. Good stuff
I had a moment of healing, thank you Mr P.
I really needed this lecture. Who am I, where am I, where do I want to go?
One thought that came to me was it's better to be a pursuer of knowledge than an attainer of knowledge. This is a struggle against the structure of culture that will throw you out into the forest if you dare to challenge it. I can't go with the herd for a quiet life. I have been thrown out into the forest. And this was my moment of healing, that paying attention to what we don't know is more critical than sticking to what we already know. That about sums me and my life up.
There is a lot to chew on for me. Thank you again
Never ceases to amaze me!
Thank you for making us understand more about our human nature and the culture in which we live in. Your lectures are very insightful.
It's so cool how this lecture get's more and more and more and more interesting as it progresses
These are why lectures became a thing in universities in the first place! Theyre so interesting .But unfortunately some university lecturers have a lot to learn!
Things I got from this:
1. The meaning of life is basically to continually confront the unknown and turn chaos into order
2. Femininity is that which selects, and women are attuned to infer value through actions
3. To differentiate female thinking from male thinking (I'm just riffing here), men are attuned to infer value from form and function
4. Back to point 2, there must be more than just action, as I've noticed women are generally better at designing a space or selecting clothes. I guess I would characterize it as things that fit together as a story. Perhaps this is what Dr Peterson means when he says women select men at the top of the dominance hierarchy (actions) and men who will stick around to raise a child (good fit)
5. So, to be a successful man, you must confront chaos often, come out with a better mental map often, and be able to convey your experience in a way that fits with other's experience
6. Summarizing how to be a successful woman is going to be much more difficult for me, as I have no frame of reference. Obviously, looking good and generally being nurturing will help attract more mates, but do you want more options or do you want the right option(s) faster? This thought experiment is hurting my head
thank you for this list! Very helpful for a quick summation too
man what a title - I'm sold
man.. but your profile name tho:)) so funny and true!
This is an extremely important lecture that many more people need to see.
Joseph Campbell, initially, gave a rallying cry to me at a time when I was asking very big questions regarding the nature of life, my place in it and ultimately God. He opened the vast depths of religion and mythology to me in a way that has compounded through the years and paid vast dividends that I could never fully articulate. Jordan Peterson has taken on that mantel (Joseph Campbell’s) in a new and dynamic way, thankfully. He is a God send!
"Suboptimal destination" = Hell. Nicely said.
11:18 - 11:28 I think that even if you live alone that whole message still applies to you. Listen to it 10 times or more, I remember Alan Watts once left such hidden message in one of his talks. I love it
What a privilege to have countless videos of this man & to hear him speak for free. He played a huge role in me taking 100% responsibility for my life & circumstances.
The real deal man. I just got his book and look forward to learning more and gaining 12 rules for life. Jordan really makes you think deeply good or bad he's righteous in his speaking and teaching.
I am sooo fucking greatfull for being open and curious enough to listen to this mans ideas. I can tell that what he is speaking of bears a lot of truth
This is so Lit🔥🔥🔥...I couldn't pay attention in college at all but now I've got the best professor in the world and I can't wait to learn thank you Professor!!!. And i'm ordering the selfauthoring life package.
pyramid architect 💯
I love you Dr.Peterson I truly do. Get well soon you’re such a great man ever since I learnt about you I’ve been listening and growing from your lectures. I’m from Jamaica and I’m studying psychology.
Your unique way of speaking brings out the things in us that we already know and lets us confirm, solidify and come to terms with them. Something that is missing for many people in their lives, thank you.
"They wouldn't line up for a lecture, and they wouldn't pay money."
Well...
You proved you wrong.
Again I'm listening. I learn more each time!
30:15 "That's Chaos" A glass fell and shattered. Even the gravity is dancing with Mr. Peterson
I have heard many lectures of Peterson sir and today i can say this is one of the best lecture he has given to MANKIND.
moral relativists abdicate moral responsibility, so true.
Another amazing lecture ! Thank-you!
Mr. Peterson, I have so much respect for you. You are admirable to me because you have made sense of my life in a way that I was yearning for, for a long time. You’ve helped me understand myself. Thank you. 🙏🏼
...not his best lecture, but the last 20 minutes were extremely powerful - even for him. 🔥🔥🔥
A very good condensation of maps of meaning lecture series.
Agreed
This is mind blowing revelation in my world.
One word: PHENOMENAL, professor. 100%.
Dr., this is by far the best lecture you have. Having watched almost everything you posted, already informed with the meaning of the words and things you are referring to, this is so rich.
@11:25 ONWARDS BROUGHT ME LITERALLY TO TEARS
thank you JBP :)
Andrew Caleb Gorospe what exactly? I've had the same thing happened with his talks but not with this particular lecture.. For me it was hearing that 10% of my people have an 85 or lower IQ.. lost my shit over that. .. reduced me to tears
Damn this guys' perspective is interesting. Fascinating guy.
An utterly timeless message I have been waiting for to coalesce being and reality. Unbelievably clear! I am very grateful to you Dr.
How much life energy does Dr Peterson need to deliver his wisdom the way he does. Dr Peterson is a genius (operates very differently to a normal/common humans). I can't imagine doing what he does... Its exhausting, such hard work.
I am so grateful that Dr Peterson has made it so easy to make sense of life.
Beautiful Dr. Brilliant. Thank you.
Wow. Jordan really helps me develop my curiosity and personality. He is truly incredible. I hope I could just one day be at a point where I'm like him. Just this huge all encompassing freaking hi def picture of how things is are and the uncanny ability to express it.
As someone who is currently stuck in life not knowing where to go next these words are so inspiring.
I listen to this lecture once a month. It's so good.
Does Jordan Peterson just know everything?!
I believe this is the first public video featuring Peterson's 'Lobster Talk".
Nice call!
This guy is a treasure. It's like his message emerged when it was most needed. Tysm Dr. Peterson!
This entire lecture is just... Simply eye opening, and hence, magical.. In all intents and purposes.
Thank you JP!
Thank you kindred family
With gratitude 🦁🌻🙏
At 13:21 JBP talks about a cat with it's cortex removed still act like a normal ... Except it's Hyper exploratory.."DUH!" it's looking for it's cortex
I hope this great man comes out of his current crisis like the resurrecting Christ!
... and not like a lamb, but a lion!
Oh, you have saved me from overdosis of toxic substances! Thank you so much, dear Professor!
Well done. One of the best of Peterson’s lectures. Brings together many different themes into one lecture.
That's what I thought too. And seeing how this video is years old, it still does the same thing with his newer lectures.