LOST ARK - What does the Summoner mage class do?
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- This is not a guide! This is a general overview of what exactly the Summoner is, what she excels at, and what sets her apart from something like a Sorceress within the same class family.
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LOAWA Armory Link: loawa.com/char/%EC%8B%A0%EB%B...
The LOAWA armory is a real-time tracker of character information taken from LOA KR’s public API. Therefore, if you’re looking for my raiding set-up on it and it looks weird, I’m probably not currently wearing my raiding set-up. If you can’t understand the page, you can use Google Chrome’s built-in translator to help yourself.
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:05 - General Overview
3:17 - Swiftness Summoner
6:32 - Specialization Summoner
8:22 - Self-Buff
9:09 - Identity
12:20 - Ancient Spear
14:32 - Defense
15:38 - Spacebar
16:00 - Counter
16:26 - Synergy
17:11 - Other Content
17:14 - Chaos Dungeon
17:42 - PvP
18:32 - Hell/Inferno Mode
18:46 - Engravings
23:04 - Outro - Hry
Just a few things that I didn't mention in the video!
1. It's extremely hard to run double class engraving on a new class release. You can play swiftness Summoner without the Senior Summoner engraving if you want, or wait until ancient accessories when it gets easier. Itemization for swiftness Summoner can be very difficult. One suggestion is to equip Senior Summoner as a +6 (blue books) and then run 4 engravings at level 3 if you want to play it a bit more budget, since this removes the need for an entire class accessory.
2. You can run Hit Master as swiftness Summoner, but it's not recommended. Cursed Doll loses 0.79% efficacy when considering Adrenaline vs. Hit Master, but Hit Master loses 15.21% damage on Kelsion, her most powerful burst damage cycle summon, which she can cast multiple times in a fight thanks to her high swiftness.
3. I found that the Charm set was pretty competitive vs. Hallucination up until around level 4-5 tripods AND level 7+ gems. It's a good choice for a pretty long time. If you are going budget and dropping Senior Summoner for the time being, the Charm set could last even a little longer. Specialization Summoner should just go another set in general (i.e. Hallucination), since the main advantage of pets constantly triggering the Charm set is somewhat lost on her in comparison.
4. Regarding Ancient Spear, it takes some time to get used to, but the exact position of your mouse when you confirm where you're casting it is the center of the first spear, and the very end of the rectangular telegraph is the center of the final spear. This should roughly help you get an idea of where you should place the spear on smaller targets, as it means the 'center' point of the skill is actually closer towards the end of the targeting.
STUFF I FORGOT TO COVER
1. Her auto-attack is pretty good! I forgot to add a section on this since it was a one-shot recording. However, it has the same property as Bard where it will auto-lock on, onto a nearby enemy target. This actually can create a problem where if you want to auto something that isn't an enemy (such as an imprisoned ally that needs hit count to be released) your auto-attack may drift off-course.
2. Her two Awakenings, you don't really get to choose which one you use. If you play swiftness build, you use Kelsion, a really powerful summon that's amplified further by her class engraving. His attacks also give you a little bit of identity meter. For specialization, you'll use Bagron (a.k.a. dune), which deals good instantaneous damage and with sufficient specialization will instantly fill up the identity meter enough to use Akir from an empty gauge (this is part of a notable 'triple Akir' skill rotation).
Thanks for the guide Saint. Been hyped for this class since LA’s release. I have enough mats stockpiled for her to easily get her to 1490 on day one. Not to mention I held onto the Punika pass and the express.
which build do u recommend for a 1445 alt saint?
Thanks for the great breakdown Saint! Is Dominion2-Nightmare4 a viable option for either of the specs? I was leaning towards Swiftness because I already had Hit Master 12 but I didn't realize her Awakening summoned a pet. You've given me lots to think about over this next week!
your loawa link is not working :o
Wont summoner have changes in kr soon to make it 1 class engraving viable? or did they do that already?
I wish there were guides like this for every class. holy shit this was good.
Agreed 100%
Saint just single handedly raised the cost of summoner by 50% more with this video.
I don't know about that. Summoner has a very...unique aesthetic. For a decent number of people it won't be worth playing for that reason alone. I can see some people that might benefit from her though, the question is whether or not they will play her.
gonna wait for a bits, just like the hype for glavier and now everyone hate pinnacle and her legendary engraving are so cheap. people tend to hype up every class when they saw it was so OP at KR server, but one thing is different are the players base, KR player are different from NA, now just need to wait for the time to tell how is going for NA player XD.
@@doritosicecream2820 While its great if its the case for pricing it will suck if the population is too low fort he class. You'll be hard-pressed finding the class accessory which makes me wonder how the nearly non existent(?) sharpshooter players find their stuff
Fantastic overview of the salient and practical aspects of the class. So many guides want to jump straight into the specific skill rotations or tripods or whatever, but this was perfect. I wanted to know more about her party synergies, utility, play feel, and potential impact on the game (market) on launch. I got all of that and more! Very well put together for a one take video, thanks Saint!
Thank you so much! it was so hard trying to find any info for this class compares to others!! as always, great insights!
This video was amazing for me, It answered so many questions I had about Summoner. Thank you for putting all together
This was really well thought out and edited. Thank you for your effort on this. As someone who probably won't try out Summoner, I appreciate the showcase and looking forward to seeing people play her.
I love your videos! I was iffy on picking summoner and was trying to find a video to convince me. This did the trick and it brought me the same feeling your sorc video gave me before lost ark came out in the west (I watched it like 5 times before release lol). Thanks for the awesome videos!
Thank you so much Saint! You are a blessing to the summoner community even if you don’t main her
Lot of classes have interesting options in both engravings which I want(ed) to try out.
But this is the first one when I have no idea what to start with, because both of them are extremely appealing.
Thanks for the video
Good overview. Thanks Saint!
Saint you're a beast at those info videos. Great content , thank you !
reminds me of when i first started playing lost ark and i looked up a sorc guide to see if i wanted to play it. Your video then was incredibly helpful and i look forward to using this one to help me get a handle on summoner as well.
This is really good, and really helpful! Thank you, Saint!
Im excited! Thanks for the video saint
Thank you so much! Other than Sywo- there isn't much summoner information out there. Thanks a lot
this class guide was soo good thanks for this now i got some thinking to do cuz you sold me on it
Thanks, as always great vid Saint.
Top tier content. Thanks.
Very great video thanks alot ! Id like to see more of the cancelation spells rotation
Great video! Thank you for this. :^)
good video Saint!
I have been waiting for Summoner since LA started in NA/EU. She will become my main, even if she sucks (she does not). I was waiting for scouter/summoner and i really had to wait.
Thank you for an awesome video, and thank you for explaining that glow above your character's head, I was wondering what was that? Like a chat bubble? Throughout the entire video lol, sorry I'm new to this game.
I guess I'll start with pet build and maybe turn into ancient build later. I'm going to main summoner
I was hesitant but now I'm sure I'll want to do a spec build
thanks for this video i hope you write the maxroll guide too i still use your sorc guide
Saint is really living up to his name.
Ty so much saint. Can you please make a video about her gameplay and rotations?
Omg man you can't hit me with that Witcher 1 nostalgia out of nowhere!
Thanks for the quick guide saint. I look forward to adding another spec class to my list of things. Your armory link in the descriptions isnt working btw.
W VID SAINT LETS GOOO
really hyped to play summoner as mage enjoyer. really wanted to play the swift version to mess around with the summons but sucks it needs 2 class engravings! hopefully can get something working.
I think you can go for cheaper option of going for Adrenalin 2 and getting the other class engraving on level 1.
Not saying it's gonna be cheap, but adrenaline often cost a lot anyway.
So if you gonna build 5x3 you can instead do 4x3+2+1 as some other build do anyway.
Besides for the option of just equipping the other engraving as +6, you could technically get away with playing 1 engraving swiftness. Some people in KR do it, but personally I think the loss is too great, especially when you consider how strong the Senior Summoner engraving is even at level 1.
Easy answer in the beginning would be to use purple books with argos rings/earrings to get the class stuff affordably (if 2 weeks down the line)
@@Saintone thanks for the suggestion. I'll give that a try, it might be fine to run for now and give me a chance to see if I enjoy it without breaking the bank. I want to try out the charm set too just for something different from my other classes (till she gets into late game). I wasn't hyped at all for summoner but after seeing your vid and reading more about her I'm thinking she could be a main if I enjoy the playstyle!
So I main reflux sorc. I want to play sorc and summoner but not the same build. Should I be switching my sorc to igniter and then play swiftness summoner? Or leave my sorc as reflux and play spec summoner?
So for spec summoner alt - master summoner, grudge, keen blunt, hit master, and +1 adrenaline?
you forgot to talk about the awakenings !
also ty for the guide, now im prepared for summoner
i missed playing her in the beta, i was really sad she wasnt there on release...
Ah I'll add it in the pinned.
@@Saintone thanks!
Quick question: not using master summoner 1 im current state is fine aswell right? i did my build 5x3 with adrenaline on 3. And also when usung master summoner 1 should the second stat be spec? currently using crit/swift necklace
Broo i didnt know abt the weakpoint thing, where did u learn that, u actually know everything its insane :0
Amazing video but I have a question. Where can I find background instrumental? Its captivating and familiar for some reason.
Thx
The OST is from The Witcher, we got it as a reward from the recent collab event. You will get it in January next month.
pls show we more about your Berserker Technichque really want to see it
pointing the withcer collab by musics xd very subtle sir.
Not sure if you mentionned it but you can actualy CLICK on the identity to switch to a different identity spell if you are a fast clicker vs using the X or what ever key you binded
I main igniter sorc so I’m def going spec summoner! Thanks for all the great info! 👍👌🙏
The song on background stroke me to the heart! What is it? (Added later: Kaer Morhen Theme - Witcher 3: Wild Hunt)
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i have waited 10 months for this class i can't wait anymore.. last week is like a torture.. im gonna juice the shit out of this class.. imma player pet focused swiftness overflow build..
Is there any chance to get something like this for artist (sooner rather than later) to know if we want to save up to make one when it comes out?
I can do that, I think that can be a useful video (what makes Artist different than Bard and Paladin).
i can finally come back my main is here!
i see some spec summoners take raid captain 3. Why is that? Is raid captain viable for Senior Summoner build?
Since ignite sorc has low mobility as well. Would you say Summoner is harder or Sorc is harder to survive and deal damage in raid (as if both spec build)?
Well igniter to do her full potential damage needs to land full combo and double doomsday. Summoner let's say instead can hit "doomsdays" every cycle. So if you miss one alikir it's not that bad as missing your ignition
Igniter Sorceress is only heavily animation locked once every 30 seconds. Outside of that, she has a lot of free reign to just poke at the boss and dodge. On the other hand, Specialization Summoner is animation locked constantly throughout the entire course of the fight. Where summoner has an advantage is the push immunity on her identity skills helping her stay on her feet.
@@Saintone thank you. That’s helps a lot. Would you have any example from your previous stream that you play summoner in raid? To have some idea of this class. There’s not many high ilvl summoner gameplay out there.
Question for the swiftness build: What would be the 5x3 setup when 5x3 with 1x1 Master Summoner is still far away. Would you aim for 4x3 with Adre x2 and Master Summoner x1 or drop Master Summoner entirely?
I'm maining Swift summoner but can't seem to figure out in what progression order I want my engravings to be. I'm currently 4x3 (Communication Overflow - Grudge - Adrenaline - Raid Captain)
It depends. If you're still using the Charm set, you should drop Master Summoner altogether (as less than 30% of your damage will come from normal and ancient spirit skills). If you're already on Hallucination, then consider Adrenaline 2 + Master Summoner 1 if you want to go min-max, or just wait until ancient accessories to pick up Master Summoner 1. Either way, it's gonna be very expensive.
@@Saintone Alright, thank you for a clear answer! Since i'm running around with the Charm set i'll drop Master Summoner for now and get it when it's possible for 5x3 + 1x1
Hi , one quick question I want to go Master summoner build (spec) would u go 5x3 with master summoner , keen blunt , grudge , curse doll and hit master or would you try to fit in adrenaline? what is the thoughts on this one ?
Thanks for the video really nice work
You can do that if you want, but keep in mind that your Keen Blunt Weapon efficacy will be under 16% without it since you don't have level 3 set or bracelet just yet. So it's ultimately a choice between KBW or Adrenaline for level 3.
@@Saintone How would you do it if you had to create a spec build on EUC ?
(sorry about this many questions I just want to know what is the best way to approach the class it self with the best I can do with it)
i dont understand isn't communication overflow the engraving to use for the spec build aka the summon build? or am i wrong sorry new to the game
The communication overflow build is for using actively pets such as the bear and the dog and is a swiftness build (this is the consistant dmg build)
Master summoner is the one for SPEC and uses mainly the Z key to do your dmg from the (akkir) this is the Bursty ish build
let's goooo
Guess I will mess around with this class until aeromancer is out.
Song at the beginning?
Thanks for the guide saint. Btw the bgm was a bit too loud compared to your voice
Do you think two plus 1 class engraving is still viable?
It's playable sure, but you will only see the full extent of the swiftness build with maxed out Overflowing Sympathy. This reduces the downtime of your summons to the max so you don't feel like there are too many periods without all of your summons.
It's a shame this class took so long to come out. Played her in the NA Beta, and she was gonna be my main, but then she was removed for launch.
My friends and I have long since dropped the game for one reason or another. I doubt this will bring me back, too many other games on my radar atm...but...maybe....
I've been waiting for Summoner to start the game... going to be interesting looing for learning groups for Argos @_@
I see a lot of people saying spec Summoner should run 1650 specialization at the very least. I am wondering: is there a specific reason as to why this is the specific breakpoint people refer to?
min cap for relic accessories all being 100 quality + the 10% pet.
Neck 500 (other 500 is other sub stat) / Earring 300 (x2) / Ring 200 (x2) = 1500 * 10% pet (0.1) = 1650
If people are a couple higher, then that is due to horizontal content stuff, but this is current highest minimum cap.
Witcher music POG
I just hope that when I try her, I'm not gonna regret it at 1490ilvl xd
Witcher song on a lost ark video :D
I have tried lost ark before it went global and made there summoner. I quit global later, because she wasnt there.
Coming back now
You mentioned something very interesting regarding alimarge where it deals bonus damage when the enemy is staggered. What's the approximate damage difference between Alimarge and Akir against a staggered foe? And would it be potentially possible to spam Alimarge fast enough to outdamage Akir during staggered foes in the same amount of time?
I think Alimaji beats akir in damage on a staggered foe since it’s cost is half of akir’s. However I’ll need to test it out when she’s live in our version.
This is a good question. Ultimately, I think Akir still deals more damage, however, I found that during many DPS windows of a staggered enemy, that I couldn't fit two Akir in without the boss leaving or phasing, so it ultimately made more sense to just use Alimarge with Akir sometimes. The damage loss didn't feel significant for doing double or triple Alimarge though.
Some time ago I remember seeing a clip where Saint said that the only people who play summoner are Korean grandmothers. I can't seem to find that clip any more.
It was true at the time yeah. The class was notoriously bad for a long time, and the main appeal was a female mage with cutesy summons.
@@Saintone I named my NA summoner Koreangrandma in your honor.
Someone should tell him his camera is backwards 😳
Can we expect a full summoner guide?
Absolutely not. Too much effort and I don't know enough about the class.
@@Saintone haha I tried bois lool😝😝
Thanks for hyping up my girl 😎 she deserves
I'm a simple man. I hear Witcher music, I hit like
You're a Witcher Geralt!
Spec is far from cheap in our version of the game, Sorc and Striker the most expensive classes to make.
He means the gems, swiftness summoner use 8 damage gems, imagine the price of 8 lvl 10 damage gems in good skills...
Spec summoner accs cost more but use less damage gems.
Sure, but the cost of accessories is irrelevant in the face of level 10 gems, which is a future that a lot if not all of you will eventually cross paths with. Gems are the most expensive part of gearing at that stage, bar nothing.
Wonder if they add alchemist.
Come on !! Lots of her strong skills are casting or holding type even ancient spear itself , All out attack is perfect for this class
Damn bro you're making it hard for me to choose between ignite sorc or spec summoner. These vids go too hard
Could’ve posted it after release so stuff doesn’t SPIKE lol jkjk
I used to play OSRS and always had content to do. WTF do I do on lost ark when the daily and weekly grind is over? I'm a new player i'[m sorry if this sounds odd but I have a difficult time seeing why people still play. Community? Well for a new player that aint a thing it's more like bot ark. raiding content? okok I got up there and there's no match making it's just bussing in find party.. okok I went to do pvp that was alright but there was no reward alrighty... next I went to do life skills it was neat I loved that amount of different things i could catch, cook or what ever there didn't seem to be much. Is LA a mobile game or an actual MMORPG? As a new player i been confused but also i been only logging on to get daily gifts because i like cosmetics and I hope one day LA wont be so bad
but yeah if anyone has any ideas. I play Una for like 3 minutes a day I'm willing to listen but if it's just that ^ what i mentioned above im out mmorpgs are not for me anymore
@@princevegeta8126 If you want a challenge, try hell mode. Once you mastered the regular raids.
@@princevegeta8126 If you make alts, you get more play time. If you only play 1 character there won't be much to do per week. A lot of people raid on 3-6 characters. No one MMs raids except maybe 1370 or below content, but IME that's usually filled with cheapos that cant get in party finder groups and/or nubs that dont know the fight. You either make friends to form a static, gear your chars properly to beat the party finder miniboss, make your own parties or join one with similar gear ilvl. Cant expect to join the 1500+ juiced parties if you're at 1460 or w/e.
There is rewards for pvp? Theres a button to check your rank and gives tokens each week based on your rank which you buy mats from the pvp vendor. Personally, I enjoy the raids. I pug everything x6. Make a support and you'll have a way easier time joining raid parties. But imo as a new player your gonna have to put in time, your credit card or a bit of both, like everyone else did, although the devs have since made part of the honing process easier/faster/cheaper.
swift build is way cheaper than spec build...
THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD
Jeez the uptalk...
She gonna be super expensive like reaperLOL
i had been looking forward to this char but you lost me at animation cancelling. not everyone wants to play these games like some aderall addict.
It's not nearly as complicated as other games. Give it a shot, or give adderall a shot.
Oh wonderful another female character!!! These games need to ditch gender lock!
Every class will get it's counterpart eventually,you just need to live long enough to witness it. Next one will be female berserker,since there is no female warrior class yet.
Would it bother you to know that the next three or so characters that you guys will be getting are also girls?
This is the only class in which I want to play both builds. Will be expensive 😭