Can the Jeep Gladiator Mojave Still Compete with New Off-Road Trucks? And is it Worth BIG $$$?
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- We hit the trail in the 2023 Jeep Gladiator Mojave to see how it fares. With new off-roaders from Chevy, Ford and Toyota this year, can the Gladiator still compete in the crowded off-road market?
Watch the video and let us know what you think of the Jeep Gladiator Mojave.
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Rear locker on is possible in 4H. Maybe on your next review of the Mojave you can try this- could make a difference.
1. Put in 4h
2. Put on offrroad + this should turn off traction control too
3. Press and hold traction control button for 5 sec. Beeping on the counsel will tell you stability control is off
4. Press lockers on.
Et viola double the fun in 4H!
Good post. I've had my Mojave 2 years....tons of dune runs.... Anza Borrego...Superstition in Cali...still never needed the rear locker. Lol
I have a Mojave and yes This Is The Way.
Mojave has locker not lockers ... Rear only. My Rubicon has lockers!
Color is ok, now the important stuff you left out. Mojave is the only Gladiator with steel front hubs, Reinforced shock mounts, rim have wider offset, and front bumps stops are fox hydraulic. Also you can lock the rear in 4 Hi (that is specific to Mojave package). Other than that good review.
also sits an 1” higher than the Rubicon.
I have a ‘22 Mojave and you can only lock the rear diff on 4low. That said I bought a tazer mini and now I can do it in 2wd.
Perhaps you can now on the ‘23?
@@carloslaraa72 I also have 22 Mojave and it locks in 4 hi
czcams.com/video/uXbf4zDl2rE/video.html
It’s also in the manual not hidden ….page 174
I still wish it was available in a 2 door!!
I keep hoping for something like that, with a longer bed. The trouble is with the market pricing as it is, the people that would want something like that couldn't afford it anyhow, and for the price point you may as well move into a 1/2 ton tor 3/4 ton pickup.
If only they would make a two-door of this, you could even get a long bed on a shorter wheelbase and it would sell like crazy... As long as they could get the price under control. Great video!
eht these are insanely overpriced thats the biggest issue
Nobody buys single cabs. It would cost more to engineer than they would make
Agreed. If they announced a 2 door gladiator I would be at the dealership tomorrow telling them to take all my money.
@@Jay-bw3fl Nobody buys short beds either, but if that's all there is...
That's exactly what I keep hoping for. A 2 door with a longer bed. There's absolutely nothing in these that justify anything more than a $40k price tag even for the top trim level. 2 solid axles, a transfer case, a V6 without the turbo crap, and a manual transmission option...its all most people really need in a truck....I see more mid-size and compact pickups being actually used as trucks than the so called HD trucks out there. The auto market has gotten way out of touch with reality when it comes to pricing, and people are just too stupid to stop buying new...so what happens, the prices just keep on climbing.
Great review and just got my first gladiator Mojave after having the Jeep jl wrangler and I have to say …I love it and feel it’s capable of anything you throw at it. I live just south of buffalo New York and can’t wait to try it next winter in a couple feet of lake affect snow storms! Great job Jeep and best review guys!
Also, welcome and congrats to the cameraman, Liam (great name, by the way!). Nice shots, views, pans, closeups.
Thanks for the updated review of the Mojave. Loved the under carriage view.
Your content is good. Glad to see you add Liam to try and up the quality.
I like the Gladiator, and I liked the Wilys I test drove, but I literally laughed when you said this truck was $80k. It’s not worth that to me. I find myself saying that a lot these days, considering the inflation we are seeing on most goods and services.
That said, as I was crashing through potholes on northern Ontario gravel roads last week, I was really wishing my Sierra’s suspension was a little better off road.
I just bought a new Mojave in TX for $42K. MSRP was $58K. They had a few to select from, and it's a left over 2023. I'm glad I waited for the discounts.
Great deal! 42k out of the door? What dealer?
I did the same in New York.the week after I bought mine the 24s were around 60,Gs! Got mine for 43! Left over 23.
Looking at a very similar deal today myself. Seems like the value is pretty high at the low to mid 40s
@@MotoFishy go for it.with the economy being so bad right now you are getting some of the best deals ever for gladiator and jl wranglers! When you can get these at 10 grand or more off the msrp you can’t go wrong!
Well that deal expired on my. They thankfully had a Rubicon 2023 with very low miles that was almost the same price and I negotiated it to work for me
Love the look. Took me some time to come around on the gladiator. It went from strange to cool.
It only looks lame from the rear.
Am surprised Jeep never made a Wrangler Mojave to compete against Bronco Wildtrak.
I like your new format with the trail signs and also the vehicle up on a rack, drone shots look good too!
11:47 Thts really flying!!! Right on Howard!!
You guys are the best auto reviewers. I’m from Toronto and support you guys 100%. Keep up the awesome work
your ramp is really interesting, great addons to your car overview, cheers from Québec!
Preach on Pops! Keeping it real.
You guys are Awesome! another excellent review and I have the Gladiator Rubicon. Keep up the excellent reviews!!!😁
nice reviews; enjoy the vids; was kind of laughing at 3:49 when you were talking about a fixed sway bar, but then grabbed the tie rod. at 4:30 you were talking about the hydraulic bump stomps ( which are only located in the front ), but then pointing to the basic bump stops in the rear.
quality content love your work guys.
Harold is a smart man. As long as people are willing to pay overinflated prices, prices will continue to rise.
Basic economics. There is no such thing as an "overinflated price", though. There is only what people are willing to pay and what a company is willing to sell at.
@@spec24 maybe so, I am not willing to pay the prices anymore, regardless of my ability to afford it. I can't see paying that kind of money for a depreciating asset when we all know the manufacturers and dealers are purposely pushing the prices north at a higher rate than their costs are rising. Just not willing to pay it anymore. But yes, as long as people are willing to pay it, the manufacturers will continue to push the market up.
I love my Gladiator the fun factor was what sold me over thenother midsize options.
Wow! I was scared you were going to hut the Rad on the tree!
Another killer video!
Can't wait for Colorado ZR2 Bison
I like this Mojave, in this color as well. I got a '22 Rubicon that was on the lot. Silver. I was impartial to Mojave or Rubicon. Nice truck, good video. Thank you Elmer team.
Welcome Liam 👏👏...Have a good day everybody ✌️
another great review!
Love that you put the Mojave in the mud and on trails. Shows it can do more than desert running.
Also, you missed the hydrolic jounce stops in the front. I didnt see a ditch crossing the trail at 50 mph- i think I hit it at 40 mph and landed the otherside without feeling like I crashed. Fun fun fun!
Jeep needs to bring back the Forward Control. It will be an instant hit.
Loved the Forward Control concept Jeep built for Easter Jeep Safari a few years back. So cool.
I'm pretty sure there's no way to get a Forward Control to pass NHTSA front impact requirements.
The Gladiator was a no-brainer for me.
The only truck available with a manual transmission + naturally aspirated engine. Plus the only convertible with removable doors. Plus the only mid-size truck to accept 35" tires from the factory.
Tacoma still has an NA engine and the TRD models are available with a manual. Not a convertible though, and fitting 35"s requires some power tools and cutting.
@@k0pper The new Tacoma is not available with a naturally aspirated engine. Only a turbo 4.
And no convertible. And no fitting 35's stock, which is what I originally said.
Great review! I live in the USA and had thought about the 2023 Gladiator Rubricon. Will You guys be reviewing the 2023 Gladiator Rubricon as well?
Punk’n is officially back!
The wander on-road is probably due to what makes a Jeep good off-road: loose suspension, recirculating-ball steering, all-terrain tires, etc.
I just bought a Mojave though the steering seems tight and responsive. Maybe I got lucky?
Still mind blown they haven’t released a Wrangler Mohave
Need the long wheelbase for high speed stability.
I really like the high speed test, that’s something that’s missing from a lot of reviews.
Fairest reviews ever!
💯 agreed with you with pricing!!! Enough is enough!!! If consumer comes together we will win!
As a Texas feller I don’t like “loud” colors on an off-road rig. I like to blend in a little better with my off-road surroundings so I don’t stick out like a sore thumb.
I think I’m going to buy one. Slightly used probably. Thanks for the vid!
Thanks Great vid. i have a 2022 in Gobi color love my Mojave 60k left over 22 dealer took 6k off
Well other upgrades the Mojave has over the Rubicon not mentioned for faster pace offroad driving. Starts off with a stiffer frame, stiffer shock mounts, Fox Hydraulic jounce bumpers in the front, cast iron steering knuckles, thicker axel housings, and a cool looking non functional hood scope...lol It's a convertible truck that is $60k+ and drives like a $30k truck
Same thickness axles rubicon and Mojave.
@@Bleda2002 Your right the mojave and rubi have 10mm thick axel housings. They are thicker and are also wider than the sport and overland models is what I should have said.
Max Tow also has has same axles
This thing will smoke everything on the road in the curves that is a truck don't believe me bring what you got to Highway 421..
Matter of fact bring a WRX..
You won't be leaving me in any of the switchbacks or curves in a Rubicon or the Mojave..
I just swapped my Rubicon for the Mojave and it outperforms any truck on the road in the curves it may not be the fastest straight line but who cares about straight line driving when you got all around performance you just don't know what you're talking about.. respectfully
Something a lot of folks never look into. Is apparently the 2.5 inch Fox shocks are specific to the Mojave. And fall between their similar 2.5 and 3.0 racing shocks in ride quality and function. Every other truck regardless of size that isnt a Raptor or TRX will need a $4-$6K shock system to be comparable.
I got lucky and got my Mojave for about 1100 under MSRP.
Just got one for $15000 below !
I got a 2021 Mojave pretty much fully loaded used for $39k before taxes, 47k miles. New equivalent would be $66k before taxes. Is that a good deal? It’s kinda my second car ever.
@@Aceinfinity-le8zchow??
@@Mrfix-iz4di they can’t sell them. I’m in Nashville area and they are marking them down like crazy.
Just bought a $63K new Mojave for $49.5K. End of the year deals are to be had!
I fcking love my Mojave and the stock capability is incredible. 6mt
Your so right all jeeps do wander. My rubicon takes time to get used to
Although the sway bar is fixed that is the tierod you grabbed.
That High velocity color looks better in person if you can believe that!
If the gladiator had the 392 option, I’d own one tomorrow. As is, no thanks
I just bought a 2021 Mojave. 10k miles for 47k. I’m loving it.
The main reason I bought a Gladiator is because I can take off the roof and doors. I do wish it had a better engine, the 3.6 is just adequate for the job. The Hurricane TT-6 would be a great option for this truck, even if the detuned it a bit.
Colour matches my kayak 👍🏽👍🏽
That color is Awesome…….!!!!!
I love my Mojave. Are there better, faster less expensive mid sizers out there? Sure! But they cant flip the top, go full air, remove the doors, back glass and front (if you wanted to). Still drives like a Jeep though. On the colour I'm not a fan of the Yellow. My personal fav which is what I have is the Sarge Green. My one complaint though and it wasn't brought up in the video is I feel it needs some more power. She's a heavy midsizer. and some HP and Torque would be a wonderful addition. Who knows maybe will see the Hurricane Engine in the near future or something hybrid to kick up those numbers.
My experience with fox shocks is strictly with snowmobiles, gas shocks on a snowmobile don't last long. Is it the same here
They should include a factory installed sprayed on bed liner. My Gladiator Rubicon came without a bed liner.
The Gladiators (both Rubi and Mojave) need the Extreme Recon or "X" package which includes upgraded rear axle, 35's, 4.56 gearing, steel bumpers, etc. A 4xE engine option could be added in 2024 instead of waiting until 2025. Jeep, make it happen!
I hope we also see the Willys version come with a rear locker like they're doing on the 24 Wranglers. I think for most people having the Jeep 4x4 system and great off road angles + a rear locker is gonna handle like 95% of what the average user will encounter.
Great colour, awesome vehicle.
hey love your shown,, Question? what about the steering knuckle, there is a difference of materiel between the rubicon and the Mojave and also i think the Mojave is wider by an 1/2 inch.. thanks
The Mojave has cast iron knuckles, while all the other JT/JL including the Rubicon have aluminum knuckles.
The extra track width on the Mojave is due to the reduced offset of the wheels (37.17mm vs 44.45mm) compared to the Rubicon. The axles are identical (other than the front Locker in the Rubicon)
I can’t decide between rubicon or Mojave; which engine do you recommend I come from diesel trucks but jeep has caught my attention and I I find loving the looks and performance of these vehicles. However, since I am new to the brand can you point me on the right direction which version should I get I would love the most off road and luxury gladiator with a great powerful engine just not v8 that makes 15 mpg on city though.
Color is ok, love the truck.
Can't take the roof and doors off of the ZR2 tho
Oh but you can take the doors off any vehicle. Just some require tools LOL.
I have a Mojave , didn't get it for offroading, but for the confort ride it gives vs a Rubicon, I will probably not do major off roading like Isee in some youtubers chanels, but I know that if i do so the Mojave have the capacity to follow and more, I find the Mojave less stiff on the road than other editions, I road tested an Overlander and a Rubicon, they are very different from each other, but the best ride was on in the Mojave, the one I test drove add 17 kms on it and still on Shipping Mode, thats the one I bought. it have allthe bells and wistles exept for the sunrider top and the bluetooth speaker, was listed 79k isssh, and got it taxes in 81k issk with all the rebates. It's a 2023 and the best time to get them is always just before the new ones come out, it came as a surprise for us to get a Gladiator, it was our little teenagers dream to get one Jeep CJ5 one day. I was shopping for a Mustang Bullit at first, then got side tracked by an Audi RS5, than when to a Jeep dealeship that had an Audi, walk into the show room after looking at it, and there it was, a black Gladiator Willy's on steroids, we just travelled back in time and forgot about the Stang and Audi. And well here we are with a Jeep Gladiator Mojave and we dont have any regrets at all. If theres something we wouldn't go back on our decision.
I considered this but waiting to see pricing for the 2024 Colorado ZR2 Bison
The one I'd get but at that price it's not really worth it
Love my mojave lockers can work 4 hi but sad day as the cam has failed at 35000kms and it's in the shop
Good morning Steve n Howard
Morning!
I got my trd pro 4 runner for 67000 msrp no mark ups. There are dealers that will not mark up you just have to find the right one. Love the colour of this jeep.
Hopefully that's CAD
Yes it is, and I got a hood protector and predator side steps for free
I really do like that red but the price messes it all up anyway thanks for the video
Great video! I agree with the pricing of vehicles it’s simply nuts and if you buy used they hit you with high interest rates!
Love the color
I'm a big Jeep fan and wasn't taking to the gladiator when it came out but after 3 Jeeps and always wanting a pickup for the bed ..with this performance?? Its a win win..the price tag sucks but ...
If only it had a hemi V8 they would sell like crazy. The V6 is way under powered.
If they're trying to promote the Mojave as a desert runner, it definitely should have more power.
ha sell like crazy, no because then like the wrangler its over 90k 99 percent of people are not buying 90k cars
Funny too because the hemi option is like $2500 in the ram 1500. Somehow in the jeep it would be like the diesel $9500 option
I owned the 4Runner and now I drive the V6 Sahara Unlimited 2021
The 6 is adequate -
Not underpowered
I appreciate it @ the pumps ⛽️
I'd buy one today if I could get the 5.7 hemi
I just got this truck for an incredible price with discounts… 23% discount! Use end of the year deals.. it is a sweet truck
My 2020 Mojave drives straight with no hands on the wheel on the highway. No death wobble either due to upgrade steering box from factory.
Id like to get one but i have 3 old 2nd gen dodges that are paid for.....i just cant see the where they get the pricing on these mid size trucks!
Great jeep, but I had no idea the Mojave comes with the Fox 2.5 shocks. Those suckers are about $1500 (American) per _corner_ so if you ever want to replace them you'll be paying a pretty penny.
You can rebuild them … also 1500$ is for two shocks front or rear set
$2700 each Canadian, just did warranty claim
$800 rebuild for all 4.
just trade it in
Hey man, didn't you use to be with TFL?
It’s low on power compared to new mid sized trucks. I’d like to see a 5.7 hemi in it.
A 5.7L HEMI, 2 less doors and a longer bed....err....new version of the Dakota LOL. I'd buy one if it had 2 less doors and a longer bed...even with the V6....my current small truck is an 87 Ford Ranger regular cab with the 7 foot bed, 2.9L V6 and 5 speed manual transmission...occasionally I wish it was 4WD though LOL...the only 2 things it has additional to being a bare basic truck is it has dealer added AC and the AM/FM/cassette radio, which like every Ford the radio doesn't work LOL....however, the AC does work after I did an overhaul on it replaced the o-rings, accumulator, and the hoses, vacuumed, and recharged, works great 2 years later, must have done something right HAHA!!!
Came from a 2018 ZR2 to a 2022 Mojave and I agree, the Mojave is soooo much better. I thought I'd miss the front locker but the traction control works perfectly and I haven't needed it, yet.
If you want the front locker the Rubicon e locker is easy to add.
I’d rather have the awesome suspension, steel knuckles and reinforced frame over a locker and sway bar disconnect I can easily add later. The only thing I wish I had from the rubicon is the cool hood lol.
Great vid! don't worry about the wondering, it's an easy fix
HOW?
@@bobbyg7552 You need to install a SteerSmart adjustable track bar between both front wheels. And if you want it even stiffer, go the extra mile, and install what is called a "Sector Shaft Brace With Frame Side Track Bar Reinforcement Bracket". Works like a charm
plenty videos about it
Cool video. At high speeding I feel the new Ranger Raptor is going to eat up all of the midsize trucks.
Bs I have seen the raptors lacking where the heck you get your facts from? The only thing they good for is speeding through bad roads but rock climbing or crazy obstacles they be found wanting. Overpriced fools buy that crappy truck.
the color is cool
The only thing I don’t like about the Falcon Wild Peaks is winter 😢
Like the color, but would like it better with the black top.
I love the color
I do miss the Gecko color, but this willdo. Having said that, the Hydro blue is pretty and the firecracker red is a jeep classic! I am so tempted by this truck (2024 model has such nice upgrades ) and while I'm not sure if I want the higher speed at lower case or the front locker and sway bar disconnect. I'm leaning towards the later but the shocks on the Mojave from factory, is nice (also, the RUbi has better armor? so better rock crawler for a not so good driver like me?)
Hopefully, the hurricane 6 makes it to the Gladiator. The 3.6L V6 is just not enough for a rig this size. At least prices have come way down on these. Dealers here in OKC are selling ones equipped like this for $43k.
What's better manual or automatic
My gladiator doesn't seem to wander. It has the MOPAR 2 inch lift and 35 inch KO2s , its the Rubicon model. I can take my hands off of the steering wheel and the truck tracks straight.
Take the top off the competition and how about the doors? What does that cost?
80 Canadian. 67 US$. Without all the options it'd be much less, as stellantis' model is to charge a ton for every little thing above the base trim. Either way, they are all a ton of money compared to just a short 4 years ago.
I'ma bit sad that '24 model drops the diesel, I'd prever the powertrain of the 4Xe on the Gladiator, However, as much as I'd like more torque, the 3.6L is perfectly matched for this truck. The fact you can get manual if you want is awesome! No selexc-speed on manual though, so keep that in mind. I'm fine with that.
THe "jeep wander" is... a jeep feature? quirk? a charasteristic I was used to on even my fairly more techy (for a jeep) 4Xe Wrangler. REfresh for '24 is nice truck. Increased payload (1700 as a RUbicon/Mojave) and also 7700 lb towoing on those models! SO, good job Jeep? Better interior too.
I like the Gladiator Mojave. I almost got rid of my 2016 Colorado for one. I just didn’t want to get a new truck payment since my Colorado is paid for. If you need your off road truck to tow, the Mojave has the best tow rating. The color is ok. Reminds me of the yellow fire truck color that was a trend for a while. My gut reaction is like yours, the price is too high!
Its definitely not cheap. Worth it... ehhh of all the trucks, yes. Are any of them really worth that much? Noooo
Actually Mojave does not have the best tow rating- it is 6,000 lbs. Rubicon auto is 7,000 lbs and Sport S with Max Tow package is 7,650 lbs.
I have a ‘22 Rubicon. It is rated higher for towing but let’s be realistic. If you are buying a midsized truck for mostly highway and towing, this is probably not your vehicle.
I love my Rubicon but it was a hard choice between that and a Mojave. They are too expensive, but it seems everything has gone that way in the post COVID economies.
@@dadventuretv2538 I guess I should have been more specific. Compared to the ZR2, Ranger Raptor, and TRD Pro.
I literally just bought one Sunday (it’s Tuesday) and I can tell you that if you looked around, dealers are giving tons on incentives on the 23’s on the lots. Not all dealers but I had 3 within 90 miles of me giving anywhere from 13k-11k off sticker. I wouldn’t buy one for 58k+, but 46k…….that becomes wildly easy. Jeeps hold their value like almost no other (wranglers, specifically, and these should be no different).
Except the reason lots are full of them and incentives are generous is because not many people want them
All my dealers in CA gave the "15k off incentive" and then added a "20k markup" that they said was going to be in place either way. So that is why we have lots full of them for over 400 days. Shame cause the Mojave seems fun for the desert trails.
I got mine Mojave (used) for $44k including all licensing and taxes.
@@captainrex4794 What dealer did you use? I am looking at the 2023 Mojave with Tow Package, Leather int, and bed liner at minimum.
I got mine at Ourisman Jeep in Alexandria VA just outside D.C.. the other dealers that game away tons of incentives for me (in June albeit, but they generally run the same way all the time) are Buchanan Autompark in Waynesboro PA, and Culpepper Jeep Chrysler in Culpepper VA. The latter I walked away from because, I was upfront with my payment and everything and they came to $15 a month more (of course). The difference in moment was $1k, I was willing to meet them halfway, and they wouldn’t budge. They don’t play games, but their deal is their deal. No movement. The other two are willing to make shit happen. Good luck.
Love the Mojave hate the color especially with no black roof or fenders to break it up
I saw a 392 wrangler at the dealer in that color and I hate to say it as much as I love the 392 I don't think I would have bought it the hemi can't overcome the color
Now, if it were "HEMI" orange, or grabber orange LOL.
Who's rock rails are you running?
Mine came from the factory with those exact rails so I'm pretty sure they're mopar.
@@traviskimbrell1209 Your right, I found them the other day on the moparfactoryparts site. Thanks for taking the time to respond to my question.
The Mojave is a desert runner as it is not a mud or rocky off-road truck use. The Rubicon is more suited for the rough off-road to challenge the Chevy ZR2. Yet, I am in awe on the Mojave's off-road capabilities in the water and muddy areas.
I’d appreciate aluminum skid plates.
I love my Gladiator Mojave.
oh an also the frame is beefier and better welds
Just bored I'm a hobby yesterday. It was sitting on the lot along with a dozen others since May of 23. Got 15,000 off!