Cinematics / PC Hood is great. It took about a month for them to prepare but they literally shipped it on Friday 4/10 and it was on my porch Monday 4/13! They were set to arrive on Friday 4/17 but there were no hold ups in customs from Hong Kong or New York. So they made their way to me in Baltimore, Maryland in no time. I will say, these lenses are gigantic. Seeing on the web is one thing, but holding them is another, especially the 50-100. I love these bad boys and thanks Epic Light Media for making this video and getting me 15% off. Happy shooting everyone!
Aaron Smith I’m happy for you! Glad everything came together with shipping. I know you were worried with customs and the virus. Good things happen for good people! Proud of you capn.
Yeah. I dont know who really likes those infomercials. How can you tell your honest opinion when you get paid a comiccion for sales? Its simply dishonest
@@rampagetv Yeah, but because it’s modded it’s NOT exactly the same. And parfocal is never really, 100% parfocal, even with the most expensive cine lenses. So it’s interesting to know how these stack up and how reliable they are.
Hmmm well this “review” started well but there was literally no actual review of the lenses. Shaking vid of the x-rite board for 20-30 seconds that appears to be out of focus. Nothing close up showing the lenses themselves or a static test of a focus chart. You are good behind the camera and hopefully you can do a 2nd review with more detail. (Looking forward to seeing more from you as your behind the camera style is good)
I appreciate the want for honest feedback. The review didn't dive deep into the image. It wasn't really a review at all. You mostly said you just liked them. I'm confused why you shot this vid on the iphone instead of shooting on the actual lens itself. People here don't care about what the iphone looks like - they want to see the lens. The jokes at the beginning gave the video a slow start. Thanks for showing us the glass, but I wish you would've dived in more.
Nice info! Unfortunately not for full frame as the sigma 18-35 is for aps-c sensors. But maybe they will adapt full frame Sigma lenses in the future. I'll keep an eye on them.
"Epic Light Media" thanks for the video, but i want to suggest you to make 2nd part of the review for this lens, including with the reviews for: 1. Skin tones of a model under daylight and under lightning. 2. Lowlight test. 3. Sharpness, ecample you can test with you're sigma photo lenses or if you have expensive cine lenses compare with them. 4. Rotation of a focal length in degree, is it 180° or lower 5. Do they have official webpage? 6. Flare test. 7. Bokeh test. Once again thanks a lot, this is a good news, i thought only Rokinon Cine DS lenses were the cheapest ones)
@@EpicLightMedia You should definitely do a more expansive test. Not insane but give a "in use" type of review. Thank you for this I stumbled upon your review of these. Glad I did. How long was it to ship from China?
Was eyeing these bad boys back in 2016 when I preordered my scarlet. Glad to see an actual review on them versus the channel that has footage of how they are modded.
Great review. I'm looking to use this lens with the bmpcc 6k pro as well. My only question is, on the Cinematics website they caution that it's "not 100% parfocal on several bmpcc 6k cameras." Have you tested these with the 6k/6k pro, or noticed any issues losing parfocal ability on these cameras or others? Would love to know in order to decide between the EF or PL mount versions
I wonder if anyone is talking about these lenses? Epic Light Media: "NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THESE LENSES!! But actually a great vid. I might have to pick up a set
Maybe b/c it's not in the B&H online catalog. People (including me) have perceived for the longest time that if something pro video/pro audio exists, it's at B&H. The cheapest cine zooms I can find there are from DZO Film. What online retailers carry this Cinematics brand?
Dude you need to do a follow up camparing the difference between the Official Sigma Cine zoom lense and these ones. I would love to see the difference 😊
thanks for the Video, are the lens internals from the Sigma Art series...? and if so could a focus test between the Sigma Cine's, the Sigma Art and the Cinematic's version. these seem to good to be true....
If the front elements were that big, then it was a great deal. The lens' front barrel diameter is 114mm, not the lenses. The lenses are tiny compared to the lens' barrel.
Kketansa Art remember they are rehoused Sigma Art Photo lenses. They aren’t charging the glass inside. They are designed to fit a 114mm front face because that’s a standard size to fit a matte box. Also if the front glass element was like 114mm that would be an insanely expensive lens.
Great review! Did you try new meike cine lenses? 12,16,25,35 mm are available, and soom there will be 50 and 85 mm. Those lenses are costing here in Europe 400 $ each...
Just ran into your video here. Not sure if anyone else has asked, but things I am thinking of from photo lenses ... is there any focus breathing, does the back focus change from wide to zoom, is there a color shift between the wide angle lens and the longer zoom lens, did they measure the side to F or T stop? Just things I wouldn't mind knowing. It's a neat concept, but if it has the usual issues of photo lenses as oppose to true cine lenses. Then it's no different to me as putting on gears on a photo lens.
Yes there is focus breathing, the lenses are parfocal though. There is no color shift between the two lenses, they are T stops. The biggest reason we bought them was for the hard stops and the de-clicked aperture.
They were the cheapest super 35mm cine zooms we could find. But FYI... I looked recently and the Red 18-85 T2.9 zoom looks cool and you can buy one used for like 3500 or less on eBay
@@EpicLightMedia Cool. Is the throw the same as on the photo equivalent? Or did they engineer it to have a long throw to give you some control of the focus as oppose to snappy focus (typically needed for photography)
Since the housing is much wider than the original lens the throw is larger than most photo lenses. I don’t think they did any engineering though to make it wider. It is too wide to turn with your hand in one go.. definitely close to the sigma cine lenses I’ve used in the past... sorry I can’t get more specific cause I haven’t measure the throw
Would like to see some more footage showing if there is flare or ghosting, seems like focus breathing is a non issue if they are parfocal, kinda intrigued!
Hi Brother I am mohan _speaking from India. I have seen so many video on youtube but very few have reported that they have done their camera. But you're Most clearly shown is the camera used thank you. Brother
The production quality of the video samples you shot in this video was amazing, love the lighting too if the set, would be great if u made a full breakdown video of your set lighting 😀
That’s a good idea. I’ve hesitated on making a video about it because I can’t think of a good title and thumbnail. I should just go ahead and make it though. Also I haven’t made a video lately cause we are renovating our studio space.
Real cine lenses have very high quality optics. You can modify it as much as you want, but if the glass is cheap, all you get is lens that looks like cine, but really not. The cheapest high quality from the top of my head is Canon CN-E line. There's a reason why pro cine lenses are $30-50K, you can actually see the way sharper image.
Well...it depends. Modern still photography lenses are designed more and more to have a freakishly sharp image (we need that clarity), which is why many indie/budget filmmakers have turned back to vintage lenses and less sharp rehoused stills lenses like this. These lenses tend to have imperfections that we bill as "character". Meaning that the bokeh can look different from lens to lens, or that CA or the flare might lend itself better for the visual subject material. Plus, those high end cine lenses are unobtainable for almost everyone outside of renting. Like you, I think the term 'cine' is a buzzword and a bit of a misnomer, it's all subjective.
@@MatthewKimble I had my hands on EF 50mm f1.0, that's a lens with the character. And compared 50 f1.2 EF and CN-E, the last one is sharper. For high end you need kinda serious purpose to rent. Otherwise it doesn't matter, photo lens with better or same performance will be cheaper than 'cine' alternative.
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Amazing! 18-35 original photo lens for me is the best cost X benefit of all time of all lenses ever produced. It's and amazing lens But this... This is INCREDIBLE! THX MATE
you didnt mention the focus throw, that is the main difference with the sigma's. Cinematics doesnt change the short photo focus throw, which is for videographer not so great. same for the iris as you did mention
I’m not sure if it’s just larger cause of the rehousing or if they actually changed it but it’s much wider of a throw now and it takes a couple of turns with my hand to go from infinity to close
The big problem with the re-housed sigmas (And I'm guessing these ones too if they're really based on those lenses) are that, not only are they softer than my grandma's hands wide open (unlike the photo verisons) but the telephoto breathes like there's no more air on earth. It's ridiculous. I swear when you rack from infinity to close distance you're zooming out at least 5mm
Thank you for your review! I'm stoked and ready to go, but I do have a question for the group. Has anyone had any experience using these lenses with a speed booster? I own 2 18-35 and want to ship one over for rehousing, but I'm a BMPCC 4K guy, and I haven't seen a single video or credit about these amazing lenses in combo with Metabones and M43 CAMERA ...thanks to anyone who can help!
I’d be cautious in recommending these. The ones I tested had rather inaccurate distance markings, which is one of the major benefits of going to a cinema lens in the first place. You can’t pull focus accurately without accurate marks so I’m failing to see the benefit of these over the much lighter weight photo versions modded with cheap lens gears. On a real rehousing of these like the GL Optics or sigma’s own cine prime, you get perfect marks.
Super super good video. Thanks for sharing it! I don’t suppose you’ve tried the lenses on a gh5s with a metabones 0.64 or 0.71 speed booster? If you have and they don’t vignette or have other major issues, we will buy a pair, thanks to this video!!!
Fantastic unboxing and showing of these 2 beauties. Just wanted to see how has these lenses working out for you. Any tips regarding pros cons and something to consider with this glass? A classic show n tell vid review would be excellent as this one is bang'n! Thanks bruh bruh!
One con is that the company that mods the lenses is kind of random and is based in china... so I’m not sure how long these lenses will last before falling apart. That being said, after using these non-stop for months they are still as good as the day they arrived... so, so far so good. The glass and image is amazing and I used the photo versions of the lenses for years before buying the cine versions. The lenses are heavy... which can be a good or bad thing depending on your rig. I like the weight though. Anyway... I still like the lenses
@@EpicLightMedia Wow Wow!😀 Last question do you recommend using this glass on certain sensors? Full frame super 35 MFT Apsc? Or does it adapt to any sensor on the market now. Thanks for the response man. Your other BTS vids framing & light produce award winning results. I appreciate how you continue to tech & inspire us all.
Thanks so much! That means a lot! We hope to keep making many more videos. These lenses are meant for aps-c & super 35mm sensors only. They offer Nikon, EF mount and maybe some others.
Thanks for sharing the video and the discovery. What is the degree of focus throw?... could you do it manually by hand or would most likely need a follow focus? Some future tests would be great if you've got the time to share. Thanks!
@@EpicLightMedia Great, thanks! Watching your demo clip samples that you edited it appears you truly shoot great stuff and know what you are doing. I look forward to seeing your samples.
Wow, I liked this a lot!! Mainly because i have both Sigma 18-35 and 50-100 for stills and because I want to invest in cinema glass in the future without spending too much. Thank you for informing the community about this ;)
I kind of wish they made a gear transfer inbetween for the iris to give you more control. I do enjoy the hard focus stops though. But still, photo quality lenses in a cinema rehousing for this much is not my boat floater.
What a great find. Thanks so much. I have the BMPCC4K with a Metabones EF to MFT mount. I have the Sigma 18-35mm f1.4 EF mount lens. It's pretty sweet. But, I am looking for more cine quality lenses. And, thanks to you, I think I found that source. Cheers.
I actually really like the 4K metabones combo because you get an extra stop of light. Like we use a canon 24-105 f4 IS on the pocket sometimes and we get an f2.8 on it with the metabones
@@EpicLightMedia Yep. Because of that extra stop of light, I am grateful I invested in the Metabones. Right now, I'm looking for a good macro lens with an EF mount.
There are companies that mod the sigma photo lenses into cines for like 1/3 the price of these. I have a full frame sony though, so I can't use them. Maybe once I upgrade to a BMPCC 6k...
I totally get wanting to re-house photography lenses for cinema. But... looks like Sigma has their own new line of cinema zooms for EF, PL, and E mounts. $4k each. Sadly, I cannot afford either of these options but one can dream...
Fascinating! Have you noticed any difference between the rehoused versions and the cine versions from sigma? I know the cine versions are essentially the same as the photo versions (optics wise with better coating) but the price is like half!!!
I used the sigma cine versions for a commercial years ago and that’s what made me buy the photo versions and now I have these new rehoused kind. Optically I can’t tell a difference between any of them. Yesterday by business partner visited Sigma headquarters and they told him directly that the photo and cine version use the same glass. I’m not an expert on lenses, however, so someone else might be able to see differences that I can not.
@@EpicLightMedia 100%! I own the photo version and have used the cine versions but when I was told that optically they're near identical just in a cine housed format I couldn't justify paying the extra $$$ for the same optics. I'm definitely looking at CT Pro for some one off lenses as these prices are incredible!
Great video! Please can you tell me if there will be a crop factor using these lenses on a Canon C100? I like to buy the lenses and would like to use them on two different camera systems. Can the lenses with Nikon mount be easily adapted to Canon EF (Canon C100)? I do not need automatic aperture transmission. Are there any restrictions?
Cinematics / PC Hood is great. It took about a month for them to prepare but they literally shipped it on Friday 4/10 and it was on my porch Monday 4/13! They were set to arrive on Friday 4/17 but there were no hold ups in customs from Hong Kong or New York. So they made their way to me in Baltimore, Maryland in no time. I will say, these lenses are gigantic. Seeing on the web is one thing, but holding them is another, especially the 50-100. I love these bad boys and thanks Epic Light Media for making this video and getting me 15% off. Happy shooting everyone!
Aaron Smith I’m happy for you! Glad everything came together with shipping. I know you were worried with customs and the virus. Good things happen for good people! Proud of you capn.
can you make your own video review and share your thoughts with us?
@@cineformat6298 for real? Okay! I'll do that!
@@Aaron_Smith_OM thank you, will definitely wait for your review
Yeah. I dont know who really likes those infomercials. How can you tell your honest opinion when you get paid a comiccion for sales? Its simply dishonest
Wished this had a much longer breakdown with more tests - focus throw, breathing, etc
obviously its the same as sigma photo lenses, plenty of test on youtube
Apart from the parfocal mod nothing is done to the optics. The rest are just mechanical changes to better suit a cinema rig.
rampagetv soooo there’s focus breathing?
@@elissitdesign Yep.
@@rampagetv Yeah, but because it’s modded it’s NOT exactly the same. And parfocal is never really, 100% parfocal, even with the most expensive cine lenses. So it’s interesting to know how these stack up and how reliable they are.
I really loved that anti-begging for subs and likes at the end XD
Me too. Pretty humble.
It made me like and subscribe if you didn’t your just an asshole 😭 dude gives off good vibes
Love you!! Haha
Hahhahahaha, yeah, that was a new one for me, made me lol like nobody's business XD
Unpacking could be shorter though 📹 🎥 📽
Looking forward to actually seeing a production shot on these to see how they function in all aspects, as well as how they hold up.
The 'footage' at 02:00 mins on from Sigma is amazing ! Sure I was even impressed using my old Sigma DL 70-300... but look at the results here..
Hmmm well this “review” started well but there was literally no actual review of the lenses. Shaking vid of the x-rite board for 20-30 seconds that appears to be out of focus. Nothing close up showing the lenses themselves or a static test of a focus chart. You are good behind the camera and hopefully you can do a 2nd review with more detail. (Looking forward to seeing more from you as your behind the camera style is good)
Okay but for real, all ironic commentliking aside, it would be really cool to see some detailed reviews of the capabilities.
I'd love to see more depth for sure, but to be fair, its not called a review. It's called an unboxing.
I appreciate the want for honest feedback. The review didn't dive deep into the image. It wasn't really a review at all. You mostly said you just liked them. I'm confused why you shot this vid on the iphone instead of shooting on the actual lens itself. People here don't care about what the iphone looks like - they want to see the lens. The jokes at the beginning gave the video a slow start. Thanks for showing us the glass, but I wish you would've dived in more.
They’re repacked sigma lenses. Flickr will have all your sample images
Nice info! Unfortunately not for full frame as the sigma 18-35 is for aps-c sensors. But maybe they will adapt full frame Sigma lenses in the future. I'll keep an eye on them.
The steadiness of that shoulder mounted rig 😂
"Epic Light Media" thanks for the video, but i want to suggest you to make 2nd part of the review for this lens, including with the reviews for:
1. Skin tones of a model under daylight and under lightning.
2. Lowlight test.
3. Sharpness, ecample you can test with you're sigma photo lenses or if you have expensive cine lenses compare with them.
4. Rotation of a focal length in degree, is it 180° or lower
5. Do they have official webpage?
6. Flare test.
7. Bokeh test.
Once again thanks a lot, this is a good news, i thought only Rokinon Cine DS lenses were the cheapest ones)
Yeah this video sucked but maybe I’ll make another one about these lenses
@@EpicLightMedia yeah dude!
@@EpicLightMedia You should definitely do a more expansive test. Not insane but give a "in use" type of review. Thank you for this I stumbled upon your review of these. Glad I did. How long was it to ship from China?
I think I will make another video! Thanks! I think it took 2-3 weeks or so
That was hilarious when you zoomed in on the unwrapping of that lens! 😂😂
Was eyeing these bad boys back in 2016 when I preordered my scarlet. Glad to see an actual review on them versus the channel that has footage of how they are modded.
Great review. I'm looking to use this lens with the bmpcc 6k pro as well. My only question is, on the Cinematics website they caution that it's "not 100% parfocal on several bmpcc 6k cameras." Have you tested these with the 6k/6k pro, or noticed any issues losing parfocal ability on these cameras or others? Would love to know in order to decide between the EF or PL mount versions
Need more videos about these lenses, now that you have had time with them
You are hilarious brother! 🤣🤣 I subscribed just for your humour… great job!
Saw them they are great way to save a couple of thousands! Thanks for reviewing them!
Any chance they do a version of the 60-600 Sigma lens too?
So excited to see you posting more frequent CZcams vids. I love your style and content and can’t wait to watch more. More. MORE🤪😀👍
Man, you are BY FAR the best instructor on YT, and i´ve watched a lot over 10 years.
Wow thanks!!
Nice tele award line up back there! Mine makes a great paperweight on my desk 😂
I wonder if anyone is talking about these lenses?
Epic Light Media: "NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THESE LENSES!!
But actually a great vid. I might have to pick up a set
Maybe b/c it's not in the B&H online catalog. People (including me) have perceived for the longest time that if something pro video/pro audio exists, it's at B&H. The cheapest cine zooms I can find there are from DZO Film. What online retailers carry this Cinematics brand?
Dude you need to do a follow up camparing the difference between the Official Sigma Cine zoom lense and these ones. I would love to see the difference 😊
GL Optics sells the same lenses, but they are a tad bit more.
So, this is something worth considering.
Looks great have you ever thought of an easy rig with that setup if you don’t have one already
Yes! Love using our easy rig!
You‘re so sarcastic and it’s hilarious to watch man, love your videos!
love this vid, thanks for your review, I'm going to send my lenses for upgrading :D
How for re housing
How much you paid only for rehousing?
@@fabianmuller4285 about more than $3000 bro
I really digged the video, great work and thanks for the mention of the lens, never heard myself before this!
Does anyone know how these lenses might interact with an EF-E mount adapter and/or a metabones speedbooster EF-E? (S35)
You just gained my sub simply because I like your style dude! I love your Call to action!
Wha haha!!
So this is the one that started the avalanche. See you at the top!
Watch part 2 for more information and lens tests!
Oh hey! You're in Phoenix! Me too. We should connect. Great video.
Wait wait wait wait... My favorite videography CZcams channel and you live next to me? Small world....
thanks for the Video, are the lens internals from the Sigma Art series...? and if so could a focus test between the Sigma Cine's, the Sigma Art and the Cinematic's version. these seem to good to be true....
Also check out the Tokina ATX cine series and the Xeen cinema lenses.
If the front elements were that big, then it was a great deal. The lens' front barrel diameter is 114mm, not the lenses. The lenses are tiny compared to the lens' barrel.
Kketansa Art remember they are rehoused Sigma Art Photo lenses. They aren’t charging the glass inside. They are designed to fit a 114mm front face because that’s a standard size to fit a matte box. Also if the front glass element was like 114mm that would be an insanely expensive lens.
@@dakotakelly hmmm :)
Great review! Did you try new meike cine lenses? 12,16,25,35 mm are available, and soom there will be 50 and 85 mm. Those lenses are costing here in Europe 400 $ each...
Just found your channel! Love it
that zoom in on the unwrapping took me out hahahahahahaahhaahahahahahah
Thanks! I’m so happy someone appreciates my weird humor
Subscribed just for the ending!!! BRAVO! (good content of course!)
Just ran into your video here. Not sure if anyone else has asked, but things I am thinking of from photo lenses ... is there any focus breathing, does the back focus change from wide to zoom, is there a color shift between the wide angle lens and the longer zoom lens, did they measure the side to F or T stop? Just things I wouldn't mind knowing. It's a neat concept, but if it has the usual issues of photo lenses as oppose to true cine lenses. Then it's no different to me as putting on gears on a photo lens.
Yes there is focus breathing, the lenses are parfocal though. There is no color shift between the two lenses, they are T stops. The biggest reason we bought them was for the hard stops and the de-clicked aperture.
They were the cheapest super 35mm cine zooms we could find. But FYI... I looked recently and the Red 18-85 T2.9 zoom looks cool and you can buy one used for like 3500 or less on eBay
@@EpicLightMedia Cool. Is the throw the same as on the photo equivalent? Or did they engineer it to have a long throw to give you some control of the focus as oppose to snappy focus (typically needed for photography)
Since the housing is much wider than the original lens the throw is larger than most photo lenses. I don’t think they did any engineering though to make it wider. It is too wide to turn with your hand in one go.. definitely close to the sigma cine lenses I’ve used in the past... sorry I can’t get more specific cause I haven’t measure the throw
thank God someone to review those! they make other hosings as well.. 70-200 f2.8 from Canon if I'm not mistaken
Yeah they rehouse lots of canon lenses and stuff. So many options on their website
Would like to see some more footage showing if there is flare or ghosting, seems like focus breathing is a non issue if they are parfocal, kinda intrigued!
the 50-100 especially has horrible focus breathing still unfortunately.
Would be nice to have more video examples
Hi Brother I am mohan _speaking from India. I have seen so many video on youtube but very few have reported that they have done their camera. But you're
Most clearly shown is the camera used thank you. Brother
Thanks!
The production quality of the video samples you shot in this video was amazing, love the lighting too if the set, would be great if u made a full breakdown video of your set lighting 😀
That’s a good idea. I’ve hesitated on making a video about it because I can’t think of a good title and thumbnail. I should just go ahead and make it though. Also I haven’t made a video lately cause we are renovating our studio space.
I was just looking at these on eBay...... glad to see a real world review of them
Absolutely amazing!!
I have a 18-35, do they take trade ins?
Yes
Real cine lenses have very high quality optics. You can modify it as much as you want, but if the glass is cheap, all you get is lens that looks like cine, but really not. The cheapest high quality from the top of my head is Canon CN-E line. There's a reason why pro cine lenses are $30-50K, you can actually see the way sharper image.
Well...it depends. Modern still photography lenses are designed more and more to have a freakishly sharp image (we need that clarity), which is why many indie/budget filmmakers have turned back to vintage lenses and less sharp rehoused stills lenses like this. These lenses tend to have imperfections that we bill as "character". Meaning that the bokeh can look different from lens to lens, or that CA or the flare might lend itself better for the visual subject material. Plus, those high end cine lenses are unobtainable for almost everyone outside of renting. Like you, I think the term 'cine' is a buzzword and a bit of a misnomer, it's all subjective.
@@MatthewKimble I had my hands on EF 50mm f1.0, that's a lens with the character. And compared 50 f1.2 EF and CN-E, the last one is sharper. For high end you need kinda serious purpose to rent. Otherwise it doesn't matter, photo lens with better or same performance will be cheaper than 'cine' alternative.
Amazing! 18-35 original photo lens for me is the best cost X benefit of all time of all lenses ever produced. It's and amazing lens
But this... This is INCREDIBLE! THX MATE
These look great but i'd like a full-frame lense. Do they have a full-frame version?
Yes they have lots of different brands and stuff. Pchood.com
Nice video, a real comparison with the original sigma photo lenses would have been great though!
Good point
Quality content with a great presentation style.
I've been searching for any info I can get on these! Would love to see another vid once you've used it on a few shoots.
Nice! Thanks for letting me know about these!!
Would love to know of you are still shooting with these and how your experience has been since they first arrived ... Great Stuff!
Hey Buddy! I only have one question. What system do you use to focus? I see you have them all on your handle.
you didnt mention the focus throw, that is the main difference with the sigma's. Cinematics doesnt change the short photo focus throw, which is for videographer not so great. same for the iris as you did mention
I’m not sure if it’s just larger cause of the rehousing or if they actually changed it but it’s much wider of a throw now and it takes a couple of turns with my hand to go from infinity to close
Great job, thanks.
8 minute video about cine lenses. Shows actual footage with said lens for 30 seconds. See a problem?
Yeah, your poor attitude is one of them. Have a great day
Matthew Kimble “Thanks for the constructive criticism” there I fixed your response. Good luck getting more subscribers douchebag!
@@samlarson178 Don't want or need them, thanks. Have a great day
Nope
Hector Maldovich because it’s actually exactly the same lenses as the sigma 18-35 and 50-100 that’s been reviewed million times
The big problem with the re-housed sigmas (And I'm guessing these ones too if they're really based on those lenses) are that, not only are they softer than my grandma's hands wide open (unlike the photo verisons) but the telephoto breathes like there's no more air on earth. It's ridiculous. I swear when you rack from infinity to close distance you're zooming out at least 5mm
Very helpful video
Thank you for your review! I'm stoked and ready to go, but I do have a question for the group. Has anyone had any experience using these lenses with a speed booster? I own 2 18-35 and want to ship one over for rehousing, but I'm a BMPCC 4K guy, and I haven't seen a single video or credit about these amazing lenses in combo with Metabones and M43 CAMERA ...thanks to anyone who can help!
I’d be cautious in recommending these. The ones I tested had rather inaccurate distance markings, which is one of the major benefits of going to a cinema lens in the first place. You can’t pull focus accurately without accurate marks so I’m failing to see the benefit of these over the much lighter weight photo versions modded with cheap lens gears. On a real rehousing of these like the GL Optics or sigma’s own cine prime, you get perfect marks.
Super super good video. Thanks for sharing it! I don’t suppose you’ve tried the lenses on a gh5s with a metabones 0.64 or 0.71 speed booster? If you have and they don’t vignette or have other major issues, we will buy a pair, thanks to this video!!!
02:03 "It's like using prime lenses except they zoom" xD
Fantastic unboxing and showing of these 2 beauties. Just wanted to see how has these lenses working out for you. Any tips regarding pros cons and something to consider with this glass? A classic show n tell vid review would be excellent as this one is bang'n! Thanks bruh bruh!
One con is that the company that mods the lenses is kind of random and is based in china... so I’m not sure how long these lenses will last before falling apart. That being said, after using these non-stop for months they are still as good as the day they arrived... so, so far so good. The glass and image is amazing and I used the photo versions of the lenses for years before buying the cine versions. The lenses are heavy... which can be a good or bad thing depending on your rig. I like the weight though. Anyway... I still like the lenses
@@EpicLightMedia Wow Wow!😀 Last question do you recommend using this glass on certain sensors? Full frame super 35 MFT Apsc? Or does it adapt to any sensor on the market now. Thanks for the response man. Your other BTS vids framing & light produce award winning results. I appreciate how you continue to tech & inspire us all.
Thanks so much! That means a lot! We hope to keep making many more videos. These lenses are meant for aps-c & super 35mm sensors only. They offer Nikon, EF mount and maybe some others.
very usefull information my dear thanks god bless you take care
dude, you won a subscriber! amazing content!
Thanks for sharing the video and the discovery. What is the degree of focus throw?... could you do it manually by hand or would most likely need a follow focus? Some future tests would be great if you've got the time to share. Thanks!
Thanks! Yeah hopefully I can make another video soon about them. The focus throw isn’t too long to do by hand.
@@EpicLightMedia Great, thanks! Watching your demo clip samples that you edited it appears you truly shoot great stuff and know what you are doing. I look forward to seeing your samples.
Nice stuff! Definitely will be watching future videos!
Thanks so much!!!
Dude...loved it.
But you forgot to tell...WHERE you copped them from.
...Hey.
Do you always use a steady-cam support when filming video?
Thoughts on using these for photography?
No I wouldn’t use these for photography
Wow, I liked this a lot!! Mainly because i have both Sigma 18-35 and 50-100 for stills and because I want to invest in cinema glass in the future without spending too much. Thank you for informing the community about this ;)
Thanks!!
I like the video but i really need more tests and comparisons please!
I’m making another video with more tests
@@EpicLightMedia Thnx!
Thanks. Great video!!!!
I kind of wish they made a gear transfer inbetween for the iris to give you more control. I do enjoy the hard focus stops though. But still, photo quality lenses in a cinema rehousing for this much is not my boat floater.
Thank you for the video
When you zoomed in on you unwrapping the lens I was crying lmaoooo
You say the lenses look sick, I can see nothing wrong with them, they look great.
If you ask me not to suscribe, definitely I would 😂. Great video.
What kind of fucus gears are you using on your photo lens
Class. Thank you!
Would you say with the BMPC6K using a Feiyu ak4500 they make the whole thing too heavy?
What a great find. Thanks so much. I have the BMPCC4K with a Metabones EF to MFT mount. I have the Sigma 18-35mm f1.4 EF mount lens. It's pretty sweet. But, I am looking for more cine quality lenses. And, thanks to you, I think I found that source. Cheers.
I actually really like the 4K metabones combo because you get an extra stop of light. Like we use a canon 24-105 f4 IS on the pocket sometimes and we get an f2.8 on it with the metabones
@@EpicLightMedia Yep. Because of that extra stop of light, I am grateful I invested in the Metabones. Right now, I'm looking for a good macro lens with an EF mount.
Could you do some more lens tests? Great review!
Hey thanks so much! Yeah we are filming more with these lenses and I’ll probably do another video on them soon
They should make a version which allows the user to swap mounts between PL / EF / Nikon!
Excellent review! Folks there is no need for extensive footage shot from the lenses. They are probably as beautiful as you imagine lol.
There are companies that mod the sigma photo lenses into cines for like 1/3 the price of these. I have a full frame sony though, so I can't use them. Maybe once I upgrade to a BMPCC 6k...
I've been trying to find the difference between the CT and CN models? Not much info out there.
Great review - do you have any updates on your thoughts for these lenses?
We still use them every day! I like them!
@@EpicLightMedia thanks, placing my order now 👍
I totally get wanting to re-house photography lenses for cinema. But... looks like Sigma has their own new line of cinema zooms for EF, PL, and E mounts. $4k each. Sadly, I cannot afford either of these options but one can dream...
Fascinating! Have you noticed any difference between the rehoused versions and the cine versions from sigma? I know the cine versions are essentially the same as the photo versions (optics wise with better coating) but the price is like half!!!
I used the sigma cine versions for a commercial years ago and that’s what made me buy the photo versions and now I have these new rehoused kind. Optically I can’t tell a difference between any of them. Yesterday by business partner visited Sigma headquarters and they told him directly that the photo and cine version use the same glass. I’m not an expert on lenses, however, so someone else might be able to see differences that I can not.
@@EpicLightMedia 100%! I own the photo version and have used the cine versions but when I was told that optically they're near identical just in a cine housed format I couldn't justify paying the extra $$$ for the same optics. I'm definitely looking at CT Pro for some one off lenses as these prices are incredible!
Great Lens, is it for full frame too?
No it’s just super 35mm lenses
Great quality video 😊
What about focus breathing? what about sharpness? could you compare them with Sigma Cine Lens?
Great thx
Great video! Please can you tell me if there will be a crop factor using these lenses on a Canon C100? I like to buy the lenses and would like to use them on two different camera systems. Can the lenses with Nikon mount be easily adapted to Canon EF (Canon C100)? I do not need automatic aperture transmission. Are there any restrictions?
Subscribed! Thanks for this. I just cancelled my order for a Sigma Art 18-35 and am buying this. Did you get the AF version? Were did you buy them?