Erie railroad Mahoning Division N scale on a hollow core door.

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
  • Sorry for the popping sounds, stupid phone. Haven't done much to the layout in a year, just did the usual clean the rails and run a train. You can read all about building it starting here: www.therailwir...

Komentáře • 135

  • @trainknut
    @trainknut Před 6 lety +21

    I've been having my doubts about making a layout on a door because it's so limited in space, but this video proves that despite small dimensions, a layout still can be big.
    Very nice.
    I think I'm gonna save this video to a playlist for future reference.

    • @ihategigglegigglesucks3081
      @ihategigglegigglesucks3081 Před 6 lety +2

      You can always splice on a part or a whole second door if you have the room, either to make it longer, or an L just use the same brand.

  • @donsob
    @donsob Před 6 lety +26

    By far one of the best small railroads I have ever seen. Great job!!!

  • @johnpetrovitz935
    @johnpetrovitz935 Před 7 měsíci +1

    GREAT layout! Super modeling. Your ‘transitions’ into the backdrop are very well done!
    Enjoyed it very much. Liked how you gave us close ups and panned away. Thanks so much for sharing!
    From another DC’er.

  • @billb.9876
    @billb.9876 Před 6 lety +17

    Amazing split-scenery views of a northeastern railroad. Really impressive that this much depth could be achieved on a door! This is probably the most convincing and expansive an N-scale layout as I've ever seen built on a door. Congratulations! You aced it.

  • @stephen5548
    @stephen5548 Před rokem +1

    Nicely proportioned large space compacted in such a small space. Well done!

  • @franklopresti2870
    @franklopresti2870 Před 2 lety +1

    What I really enjoyed seeing was the A-B-B-A lash-up . . . very 1950s! The Erie came into Chicago by way of the Chicago & Western Indiana, and I spent many happy hours as a kid, watching those beautiful black and yellow diesels from the vantage point of the 103rd Street bridge. Such happy memories, so sad that the good ol' Erie is just another "fallen flag". Great job of modeling!

  • @othmarbrunner9639
    @othmarbrunner9639 Před rokem +1

    Beautiful layout it looks so much bigger than a door you must be an artist

  • @jerrysmith1929
    @jerrysmith1929 Před 4 lety +2

    This layout is exquisite! It takes hollow core door layouts to a whole different level than nearly all. The only thing I see missing is people.

  • @SteveJohnson-SD70MAC-747
    @SteveJohnson-SD70MAC-747 Před 6 lety +11

    Really nice layout. Great detail and a really good mix of scenery and buildings. Looks very realistic.

  • @PerlaVisionMusic
    @PerlaVisionMusic Před 4 lety

    Excellent. Terrific detail. Two separate scenes. Realistic. Packs a lot onto a door, but doesn't feel compromised at all. A+

  • @baronjutter
    @baronjutter Před 3 lety +1

    one of the finest door layouts I've ever seen

  • @espeemike3698
    @espeemike3698 Před 6 lety +8

    Outstanding layout! Excellent craftsmanship! Well done. Mike

  • @g.w.7893
    @g.w.7893 Před 3 lety +1

    Brilliant use of space and so nicely finished as well.

  • @Leesion73
    @Leesion73 Před 4 lety +1

    Just GORGEOUS work, wonderful example of how amazing a door can be in model railroading

  • @scottyhotty111
    @scottyhotty111 Před 5 lety +2

    Amazed at how much you have packed into a layout on a door, I'm feeling inspired to create one on a door as well 😱

  • @ZFRANK59
    @ZFRANK59 Před 6 lety +8

    Great scenery! Transision from front to rear scene is nicely done.

  • @joelmarksbury4376
    @joelmarksbury4376 Před 2 lety +1

    I love of the drum soundtrack. Neat.

  • @marktaylor8659
    @marktaylor8659 Před 6 lety +2

    I agree with what others have said. Just a beautiful layout with great detail. You've taken advantage of N-Scale size and it looks and feels like a class 1 railroad. Just love the coal facility. Thanks for sharing.

  • @HobbiesRfun
    @HobbiesRfun Před 3 lety +1

    Hollow core door layouts look like they make good beginner layouts. They have just enough space to allow quite a bit of operation, and scenery detail, but are small enough, and simple enough not to overwhelm a new modeler.
    I'm hoping to build one myself soon. I'm still deciding on three themes, which would be good for a small layout. All three would represent small fictional short line railroads. I just ordered two n scale undecorated engines from Ebay, a Lifelike GP18, and Lifelike GP20, which would be perfect for this kind of railroad. I remember as a child seeing a lot of freelance model railroads looking through my late father's Model Railroader magazines from the seventies, and early eighties, and enjoyed the pics of legendary layouts like the V&O, the Alleghany Midland, the Sunset Valley, the Utah Belt, and the Ohio Southern. Creating my own road name, and paint scheme looks like it could be a lot of fun, if I do it right.
    Painting, and detailing my own engines, and caboose may be a bit of a learning curve for a new modeler, but I figure if I stay with a simple paint scheme, and have the right painting tools, I should be fine. Plus I have a small fleet of engines from Kato, and Atlas already painted from the factory that I can use, until I work up the courage to paint my own.
    I'm just deciding weather I want to do an urban industrial, Midwest grain hauler, or a Pacific Northwest lumber hauler. I got the AnyRail program, and have track plans for all three that look nice for a beginner layout. They have just enough track for switching, and operation, but I've been careful not to over do it with the track, and switches, so I have plenty of room for scenery, and not get things too complicated, which I learned from model railroad books, magazines, CZcams, and from designing my own track plans on AnyRail. I noticed it can be addicting adding track, and switches, and how easy it can be for a beginner to go crazy, and create a frustrating mess, even in a small space.
    I'll be using Kato Unitrak, which will let me try out my different track plans, and rearrange them to see which one is the best, before I glue the tracks down, and start scenery.

  • @drifterman319
    @drifterman319 Před rokem +1

    This is a prime example for me that for model railroading with a layout on a door "less is more".

  • @carlosbernasconi4965
    @carlosbernasconi4965 Před 11 měsíci

    Very strategically placed scenic dividers.
    They make this excellent layout look larger than it is and allow longer trains.
    kudos ❤

  • @Hereford98
    @Hereford98 Před rokem

    Haven't seen many layouts with a view divider down the middle like this, looks awesome! Like having 2 layouts in 1 very nice :-)

  • @RB.1595
    @RB.1595 Před 9 měsíci

    Absolutely stunning. Thank you for taking the time to film and share with everyone. Much appreciated.
    This layout has inspired me to build a small n scale layout myself. I've just ordered components to start soon.
    Thanks and kind regards, Richard.

  • @giulius7176
    @giulius7176 Před 5 lety +2

    Nice layout...the scenic divide makes it look so much larger ...

  • @robtman9199
    @robtman9199 Před 6 lety +1

    Awesome layout, so real looking. A lot in a small area without looking crowded. Thumbs up!!!!!

  • @StevesTrains
    @StevesTrains Před 6 lety +2

    Great looking layout! Really well done. I plan to eventually get a 36x80" N scale door layout built as well...of course I've been saying that for 2-3 years now!

  • @samwheland7966
    @samwheland7966 Před 6 lety +2

    I've been watching this from the beginning on TRW, An Outstanding Layout.

  • @d7a7s7
    @d7a7s7 Před 3 lety

    one beautiful little layout - you have certainly maximized the use of space , to its absolute fullest - wonderfully well crafted .

  • @Rhinexing
    @Rhinexing Před 6 lety +1

    Absolutely amazing layout! The detail work is unsurpassed.

  • @coxsj
    @coxsj Před 6 lety +1

    Beautifully done. Excellent illusion of depth. Thanks for sharing!

  • @derricksmith4710
    @derricksmith4710 Před 2 lety

    The inspiration I get from this layout I'm an N scale modeler novice enthusiast great work

  • @ShelbyDude1
    @ShelbyDude1 Před 5 lety +2

    AWESOME...!!!

  • @nscalefun
    @nscalefun Před 6 lety +2

    AWESOME, EXCELLENT and PERFECT LAYOUT!!!!! Keep up the good work.

  • @waltersobchek2465
    @waltersobchek2465 Před 5 lety +1

    A lot of modeling detail and train running action in a small space! I love the forced perspective of distance with the background buildings (z scale?) The elevation variety is a nice touch also. Looks amazing, lots of detail!!

  • @andrewwilliams4130
    @andrewwilliams4130 Před 9 měsíci

    Fabulous work

  • @stevegordon2428
    @stevegordon2428 Před 2 lety

    Coulda fooled me. that is a lot on a hollow door. WOW

  • @BurningtunaDC
    @BurningtunaDC Před 6 lety +2

    Wonderful layout. Thanks for shooting and sharing.

  • @Bagooda
    @Bagooda Před 6 lety +2

    Awesome, I really need to get going on my layout.

  • @xfiles-thetruthisoutthere8038

    You got yourself a nice layout ! Be ‘proud’ and enjoy ! 👽

  • @dumptruckdave423
    @dumptruckdave423 Před 3 lety

    Very Nice Layout!!! 👍

  • @conecuhvalleyttrak
    @conecuhvalleyttrak Před 5 lety +1

    Impressive! Nicely done.

  • @OmegaManJon
    @OmegaManJon Před 5 lety

    Love the view at 2:27. I want to replicate this on my layout now.

  • @brettany_renee_blatchley
    @brettany_renee_blatchley Před 4 lety +1

    😊❤😊❤😊❤😊

  • @chrisrobinson5874
    @chrisrobinson5874 Před 3 lety

    That’s an impressive set up nice job 👍

  • @sierravalleyandharborjunction

    well done. hard to tell scale which is a great achievement.

  • @tonykane8866
    @tonykane8866 Před 5 lety

    Well great now I have small layout envy.

  • @theoldar
    @theoldar Před 4 lety

    Very nice.

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-4560 Před 6 lety

    THANK YOU...for sharing. Very nice.

  • @Superseanbarry
    @Superseanbarry Před 4 lety

    SWEET!!! Well done layout.

  • @bluedoris88
    @bluedoris88 Před rokem

    Cool...magnificent,Geoff,U.k.

  • @dennisbrowder6316
    @dennisbrowder6316 Před 6 lety

    Excellent work looks great

  • @elleryparsons5766
    @elleryparsons5766 Před 5 lety

    My Door project is on the slow side will get finished and my wife will Love it.

  • @pascalfranceschi1577
    @pascalfranceschi1577 Před 5 lety

    Very nice layout, thanks

  • @CreativeRails
    @CreativeRails Před 5 lety +1

    Absolutely fantastic!! Great work! I am your newest follower!!
    -Ben

  • @ihategigglegigglesucks3081

    I am building a similar steam era layout based in the late 1930's or early 1940's in Virginia, my home state near the New River Valley. I hope it turns out half as nice as yours. I am using a 36X80 and a 32X80 to form an L shape in the den

  • @kenriches7403
    @kenriches7403 Před 4 lety

    Nice

  • @PHelm
    @PHelm Před 5 lety

    Very nice and well done!!!

  • @willrothfuss8470
    @willrothfuss8470 Před 5 lety

    Fantastic!

  • @badge764
    @badge764 Před 4 lety

    Didn't know you did trains....also your charger is up on my vids. Just finished it

  • @JDsHouseofHobbies
    @JDsHouseofHobbies Před 5 lety

    I'm also working on a layout on a HCD. This gives me inspiration!

  • @tobygoodguy4032
    @tobygoodguy4032 Před 6 lety

    Well done.

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 5 lety +1

    What did you use for the bridge underpass on the far left side (Erie)

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 5 lety

      Atlas 2080 girders only photos.app.goo.gl/f9ZLLQfJDKAV51p5A

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 5 lety +1

      Lots of photos here: photos.app.goo.gl/9t4C9B3ggtbKjtVd2

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 4 lety

    Thanks! So how did you construct the Masonite board there? Is it 2 pieces where the service track disappears

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 4 lety

    Hi, what did you use for the flat buildings attached to the backdrop, the ones in the background that are slightly faded?
    What was your resource?

  • @jamesyoung1127
    @jamesyoung1127 Před 5 lety

    hi there love this little layout here. what code of track did you use, and what size and what kind of turnouts. i am thinking of building one like this to maybe sell or keep. i also have a large layout but i feel like i want to build a small one. also you said that it was on a door did you use foam board on top to cut down and get the depression for your coal off loading facility? it really is a nice little layout wit a lot of detail on it. thank you for sharing this with us
    jim

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 5 lety

      Thanks. The track is all code 55, the turnout are hand laid, but most are #5's. There is a 2" thick slab of foam down on the door. If you follow the link in the description you can see the whole thing built from the start.

  • @fritzluve
    @fritzluve Před 2 lety

    Wow!!!!
    Hey what type locomotive is that?
    The one thats pulling the American Railroad Express?
    And brand? Kato...Bachmann etc.....????
    And type of track used and code?
    Is your layout controlled by dc or dcc ????
    Thanks!
    Great job 👌

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 2 lety +1

      That is a Walthers RS2. The track is Micro Engineering code 55 with hand laid turnouts. I just use DC.

    • @fritzluve
      @fritzluve Před 2 lety

      Yeah DCC looks too complicated from what I've seen on other videos!
      I'm going to go with DC, old school!
      Do you know of any websits that offers free different online Ho & N scale layout track plans you can choose from and with complete step by step wiring?
      Thanks again! 👍

    • @fritzluve
      @fritzluve Před 2 lety

      Yeah DCC looks too complicated from what I've seen on other videos!
      I'm going to go with DC, old school!
      Do you know of any websits that offers free different online Ho & N scale layout track plans you can choose from and with complete step by step wiring?
      Thanks again! 👍

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 2 lety

    What LARC products did you use for the backdrop?

  • @hhc19avn
    @hhc19avn Před 4 lety

    Very nicely done. What size door did you use?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 4 lety

      Door was 36x80", but I added 6" to the length so 36x86" whole layout.

  • @glennfenton4992
    @glennfenton4992 Před 6 lety

    Awesome layout, I am in the starting stage of a door layout. what type/brand track did you use?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 6 lety

      It is Micro Engineering code 55 flex track and code 55 handlaid turnouts.

  • @thomasabramson100
    @thomasabramson100 Před 3 lety

    Great layout are the crossovers reverse wired ? and is this from the atlas track plan?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 3 lety +1

      It is all old school block control. Here is the trackplan: photos.app.goo.gl/ftBbfHF6Btf5G7W16

    • @thomasabramson100
      @thomasabramson100 Před 3 lety

      @@Schmuck804 THANKS

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 5 lety

    At what angle did you did you cut the sides of the abutments?

  • @elleryparsons5766
    @elleryparsons5766 Před 3 lety

    Is there A Model Railroad Club That Displays their Layouts OnHollow Core Doors?

  • @In2-Tech
    @In2-Tech Před 6 lety

    How wide are your roads and are they painted? If so, what kind of paint, or material? Great layout.

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 6 lety

      They vary in width. Made from large styrene sheets and painted with various shades of grey from spray cans. The lines are colored pencil. You will have to weed through all of this, but I posted how the road were made here: www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=32219.0

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 6 lety

      before: photos.app.goo.gl/vVWK4KqtBojFL0342 and after: photos.app.goo.gl/vswmCdE1oW6bSE8a2

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 5 lety

    Can you describe to me what you used for the bridge piers that were uses for the river brdiges? Chooch? 1 piece or 2? Thanks!

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 5 lety +1

      The piers are Chooch 9830, abutments were made from Chooch 8310 cut up and re-arranged.

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 4 lety

    Can you describe how you constructed the backdrop on the left side where you have the siding disappear

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 4 lety

      The tracks just end at the backdrop. The idea was to park cars on the interchange and be able to use it as another industry: photos.app.goo.gl/g95sByw2Le5sG5JFA

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 4 lety

      This is before the backdrop was installed: photos.app.goo.gl/A1T1BWG1zRc3Ee6SA

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 5 lety

    Can you tell me what angle the abutments are for the bridge over the river?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 5 lety

      About 45 degrees photos.app.goo.gl/VWqzpG1RezFuLJ5z5

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 5 lety

    Hey Chris,
    Did you use a double track Atlas code55 bridge for the right hand corner overpass?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 5 lety

      The one by the coal trestle? Those are newer Atlas girders, but I made my own base for a ballasted deck.

    • @andrewthomas9777
      @andrewthomas9777 Před 5 lety

      Yes

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 5 lety

      @@andrewthomas9777 Here is an early photo of the bridge: photos.app.goo.gl/rxrxxn7KSrfb6qzV7

  • @J2NscaleModelTrains
    @J2NscaleModelTrains Před měsícem

    Who makes that caboose?

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 5 lety

    Chris,
    how long are your bridges and what brand are they?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 5 lety

      They are Micro Engineering girders, 80' long I believe. With Kato bridge shoes that I cast in resin. The short bridge over the road is a newer Atlas bridge (girders only).

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 4 lety +1

    How tall did you cut the backdrop where the city bridge is located?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 4 lety

      I used the bridge as a guide and cut the backdrop so I couldn't see the edge at eye level. All of my equipment goes through it, but it is a little shorter than the NMRA gauge. Here is the bridge without the backdrop: photos.app.goo.gl/TkLo5SdhFqbxP8L37

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 4 lety

      And a closeup after: photos.app.goo.gl/LfKJWcABTcSo6RPr8

    • @andrewthomas9777
      @andrewthomas9777 Před 4 lety

      @@Schmuck804 Thanks! So how did you construct the Masonite board there? Is it 2 pieces where the service track disappears

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 4 lety

      Just one piece of Masonite backed with 1x2's at the edge. You can see the pencil marks where the 3/4" Melamine backdrop will go forming a T shape for the whole backdrop.

    • @andrewthomas9777
      @andrewthomas9777 Před 4 lety

      @@Schmuck804 Okay it looks like it is attached on the side and then runs up and over the surface of the layout. Not sure how you did that. Is it that you cut the opening there to allow this to happen?

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi,
    i'm planning a door layout, can you share your final track plan?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 5 lety +1

      Link in description goes to the build thread. Trackplan is on page one.

  • @subsailor1445
    @subsailor1445 Před 6 lety

    Very nice layout. Somebody shot the guy at the gas station. Add a couple hundred people and then shoot another video, please. The mill is very impressive, great job.

  • @jonathangreenlees4772
    @jonathangreenlees4772 Před 2 lety

    Nice coal trestle for the fuel dealership. Do you mind if I make a similar structure for my HO scale railroad? Also, how does the dealership get the fuel and oil delivered to it?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 2 lety +1

      I've seen a bunch or coal trestle photos with tankcars on them. Gravity will unload them. Here is the real trestle goo.gl/photos/eFzXokgq3ra35eJx6

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 2 lety

      www.google.com/maps/@41.1052494,-80.6586146,3a,60y,36.38h,88.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjcZGLwwqsn3EG97k1m0KLg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

    • @jonathangreenlees4772
      @jonathangreenlees4772 Před 2 lety

      @@Schmuck804 Thank you for the reference info. I assume that they attached hoses to the tankcars to unload them while they were on the trestle?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 2 lety

      I'd imagine that is how it's done www.shorpy.com/node/4058?size=_original#caption

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 5 lety

    what material did you use for the dividing backdrop?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 5 lety

      It is a 3/4" thick piece of Melamine. The edge at the end of the layout was rounded. Could have been anything though. The far end it just 1/4" Masonite. So the whole backdrop is a T shape.

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 5 lety

    Can you describe specifically what you used for bridge piers and abutments for the river bridges?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 5 lety

      The piers are from Chooch and the abutments were made from a resin stone wall that was cut up and re-arranged. All of the layout abutments are custom made to fit. Sometimes even the Chooch flexible wall stuck to balsa sheets and cut to shape.

    • @andrewthomas9777
      @andrewthomas9777 Před 5 lety

      Thanks!
      one more question - at what angle did you cut abutments?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 5 lety

      @@andrewthomas9777 About 45 degrees, but used the step of the blocks as a guide: photos.app.goo.gl/uDWZEyqnu7Huhare7

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 5 lety

      photos.app.goo.gl/q2PSiiFhQr1AzTCU8

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 5 lety

      photos.app.goo.gl/vAhjprfAgnfp2ZC57

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 4 lety

    How tall is the divider piece? is it just a Masonite board?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 4 lety +1

      It is 16" tall 3/4" thick melamine. Could be Masonite though. I couldn't go taller because the layout is mounted about 3" lower than eye level and the backdrop is about 1/2" from the ceiling.

    • @andrewthomas9777
      @andrewthomas9777 Před 4 lety

      @@Schmuck804 Thanks and how did you fasten it to the layout? did you cut a groove in the foam core?

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 4 lety +1

      @@andrewthomas9777 The whole backdrop is actually a T shape. The end is Masonite that is 36" wide. I just put a few screws through it and into the end of the melamine board. This keeps it from falling, but I did add a small cleat that is hidden in a building. You can see it here: photos.app.goo.gl/uuEZpfyp9SGyySZy6

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 4 lety

      You could cut a groove in the foam and stick 1/8" Masonite in it for a simpler approach.

    • @Schmuck804
      @Schmuck804  Před 4 lety

      Also the seen edge of the melamine board is capped with a half round dowel to make the edge look better. This is the end: photos.app.goo.gl/s5Hb5xkCPCcCJ5wW6

  • @xanadujohn79
    @xanadujohn79 Před 6 lety

    # of Door's or that is one big door....

  • @andrewthomas9777
    @andrewthomas9777 Před 3 lety

    What LARC products did you use for the backdrop?