HobbyEagle A3Super3 Gyro - Set Up Video - Motion RC
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- James helps you set up your A3SUPER3 with an EDF or Warbird. Video table of contents and product links below:
Product Links:
US A3SUPER3 :www.motionrc.com/products/eag...
EU A3SUPER3: www.motionrc.eu/products/eagl...
US Programming Card: www.motionrc.com/products/eag...
EU Programming Card: www.motionrc.eu/products/eagl...
Support Page/Downloads :www.motionrc.com/products/eag...
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0:00 - Intro
1:52 - Unboxing
4:53 - Wiring Setup
8:22 - Software Setup
13:39 - Connecting to the Computer
26:44 - Programming Card
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i just got this today in the mail. this is very helpful. thanks. yes, i know that FrSky have stabilization on their S8R and S6R receivers, but i needed this because i have my long range receiver in the tail of my plane.
Great video. I am going to install it in the Mirage as well. I have a DX9 as well and the same receiver but the gyro one. I will of course disable the gyro in the receiver though. Again great video and thanks for doing it. I am looking forward to getting it in the Mirage.
Great video. One quick note. You plugged the cap in the A2-E2-G port. I think all these are input signals. You need to put the cap across +v/ground. For example, in the out4/out5 output ports on the controller or any of the open output ports on your receiver.
I have a Master Degree in Electrical Engineering and Ali is correct. The Capacitor needs to be plugged in into a port which is labeled + and -
@@maciekkormicki9298 , actually, here is what's said in their own user manual: "The capacitor can be plugged onto any one of the free input or output sockets of the gyro or the receiver."
@@EugeneZhukovThe manual is wrong. It can be only plugged into OUT1 through OUT5 (perhaps that is what they meant). Capacitor is supposed to store charge. Capacitor needs to be connected to + and -, so it can get charged. Note that capacitor has only two wires. That is because it needs to be connected to power and ground. The other Gyro ports have 3 different signals per port. The other 3 ports have no ground and no power, since the ground and power are provided from OUT1 through OUT5. Let's say you connected capacitor to port labeled A-E-R which is for Aileron, Elevator, Rudder. Gyro would generate pulses on this 3 pins, and these 3 pins are configured as outputs (outputs to servos). If they are outputs how would they get voltage (charge) from capacitor. Also you would have the same voltage going to both capacitor wires, and the capacitor would not get charged.
@@maciekkormicki9298, I add one more capacitor to the receiver too. Anyways, after 2 years and multiple attempts to get it working (both A3S3 and A3S4) on several plane models, I decided to replace this brand's gyros from all my planes - read my comment below. Currently, I'm using several others with no problem (for instance, Aura 8 by Potenza), and I am planning to test more serious systems, such as MATEK Flight Controllers. HobbyEagle is my worst-ever experience among gyros.
Greetings James. My sincere congratulations for your well done, very easy to follow video. What I found most useful in programming my first A3S3 was your recommendations. Others just show what various tabs do and that's nice, but what you do is to make a suggestion which is what I was specifically looking for - and I found it in your video. Only one question, I don't recall you ever commenting about RR, what it does and whether you advise turning it on or not? In view of the fact that you didn't bother to comment about it, I assume that means "Don't worry about it? But, based on the description in the manual I'm not sure what your advice would be. Again many thanks for your very effective video. Thanks for taking your time to do it and thanks to Motion RC for making it possible.
Oops, on my second (or was it my third viewing) I just caught when in the Wiring Setup section when connecting the servo wires to the Stabilizer, he said "the positive is always up." Can't be since the positive wire is in the middle. He wanted to say the Signal side (yellow wire in this case) is always up, as the symbols on the Stabilizer dictate. That is actually what he did.
C'est bien présenté et çà donne envie de l'acheter ( j'ai le A3Super). Merci...
Thanks! Very helpful video. Can the A3S3 be used with the F-14 Tomcat? If so, please produce a video showing how.
Helps a lot
Hi and thank you for this video it's been very helpful so far. I'm trying to get mine working with my horus x10s/R9 long range RX. The gyro shows channels AER working properly but it's not recognizing the other channels for mode or gain for some reason? Im wondering if it's because the R9 RX operates on channels 17-32 and thr gyro doesn't know they're there but not sure? Any insight is appreciated. I'm going to update the firmware on the gyro now but it's brand new and said v2 on the box so didn't think it would be necessary right away?
If during flight a trim adjustment is needed on the transmitter, what needs to be done on gyro after landing to account for the change in transmitter trim? Thanks.
Hi there, thank you for posting this great video, very informative! I am trying to set this unit for a flying wing (an old Zagi) with a Spectrum DX6, originally was setup for Elevons in the transmitter, do I need to change that setting to normal elevator and aileron in the DX6 and setup the delta wing in the stabilizer? Thank you.
yes. Let the gyro tell the transmitter what the setting should be. Don't do it in the transmitter
Having multiple troubles with the previous version (A3S3) I still decided to get a chance to A3S4. Unfortunately, it's all the same: after 15 minutes of the flight, the plane started flying like a drunk, slowly yawing, delaying its reaction to my commands, and even getting stuck in some position totally ignoring the commands. I succeed to land it and found that the reaction of the sensor in ANGLE, NORMAL, and LEVEL modes are totally opposite, while they were equal in before.
Actually, I had absolutely the same issues with the previous version of this gyro. I have two HobbyEagle A3 Super 3 gyros installed in two different RC plane models: Conscendo Evolution (1.6m wingspan, 3S 2200 LiPo) and VolantexRC Ranger 2000 (2m wingspan, 4S 5200 LiPo). Both planes got practically the same types of issues: everything works fine first 10-15 minutes of the flight, but then the behavior of the plane becomes weird. The plane starts flying like a drunk, slowly yawing, delaying its reaction to my commands, and even getting stuck in some position totally ignoring the commands. Once Conscendo abruptly pitched down to the ground like a kamikaze. Another time it stalled ignoring any commands. Furthermore, in one case when Volantex fell down due to such weird yawing, I found ailerons getting stuck in their up/down limits, and I could turn them back to the neutral position only after switching gyro modes a few times.
Analyzing all these cases I became suspicious concerning the level of power, thinking this weird behavior starts when there is a lack of power. So I made a test flying Volantex at minimal motor speed with flaps down trying to spend power very slowly. But within 15 minutes of the flight, the plane started yawing again. It was very hard to control the plane while landing and it almost crashed. When I checked the battery, it had 4V on each cell (77% of power). Also, I remember when I got the same issues after 10 min of the flight, after changing to the fully charged battery.
Today's flight with A3S4 confirmed all the issues I got before: 15 min of flight, 68% of the battery, gyro sensor lost its orientation.
As a result, I'm planning to return this unit and look for a better gyro because I've been tired of spending weeks repairing my planes after every "strange" landing because of this gyro's bugs.
Have you had any luck with a response from Motionrc on these gyro issues. A have been looking for a programmable gyro option myself. What is your recommendations. This looks good on paper, but like you have mentioned, it has it faults.
How many Amps can be drawn through this device? I plan to use it on big plane with 5 big servos supplied by 15A BEC.
Can I make this work with just the program card? The links for download are giving me an warning as a non safe site.
Thanks James. Now, if only ANY of them were in stock, I'd be good. LOL
Question: In all the videos, for a 3 position switch, I get it for auto-level, but isn't normal and off the same thing? Wouldn't normal flight be with auto-level off?
By normal, I just mean the standard gyro-on setting (the most used). Then off is just off
hello friend you recommend leaving the basic gain at 30% and I will put it in the coach mode because it will be my first flight so leave this command with 100% at atti gain what do you think about this.
don't forget, the supplied cable is the only cable what works with the gyro programming. YOU CANNOT use a normal charging cable for a phone
Where does the gyro get its -ve from? Is it from the mode select port? As it can’t be from the e/a/r port as it’s a 3 into 1 so can only be +ve. Guessing that means it needs to have the mode port active so can’t be used with a 4 channel receiver
I am trying to install mine on a HD Wing where there is no rudder and just ailerons which also act as elevators. I have the plane setup fine with my radio and receiver but can’t make it work through the HobbyEagle
The hobby eagle has its own Delta setting. So if you set the gyro to delta than you only need a normal model in your transmitter. The gyro takes care of the rest
Can you please tell us how to assign a triple switch on an IX-12 to work with this gyro? You didn't show how you selected it to work with the switch on your transmitter... Thank you!
I have never used an IX-12 before, but basically whatever channel on your receiver that you plug the mode lead into, go into your channel assignment page and assign whatever switch you want to use to that channel. So if you have the mode plugged into AUX1 like I have in this video, then in your transmitter assign the AUX 1 channel to say switch H or G etc...whatever switch you have that is 3 channel
Is the A3 Super 3 compatible with the Spektrum SRXL2 Data Protocol? In other words can I use a Spectrum Satellite Receiver SPM4650 with a single cable to the BUS Port?
My friend, good video, i have a cuestión and how you assign the 3 button position, like my control have 4 of them
Whatever RX channel you plug the mode lead into, set that channel to the switch you want on our TX
What is the difference between this one and the mini in terms of the inputs in regards to the mini has 1 and this having 3. What we gain or lose using the mini compared this this one? I hope you can comment. Thanks
James I hooked the A3 super3 up to the futaba10j receiver the led is flashing red I can't get it on a 3 position switch to turn it off and on I got position 1 off position 2 normal. Position 3 level flight in the programming card but none of the three position switches will work the gyro what am I doing wrong? Help please I put the gyro in my jas-39 gripen with the R3008SB receiver.
Are you using SBUS connection (using just one lead), or connecting it the normal way (like I show in the video? If you are connecting the normal way, remember this Futaba receiver has 4 modes, the default has the 8th channel set up for SBUS, so if your mode lead is plugged into it, it wont work conventially unless you change the receiver to mode 1, you have to change that manually. Read this manual to do it usermanual.wiki/Futaba/R3008SB-24G
What's the best practice for setting up trims on the gyro. Ideally you would not know how much trim is needed until you maiden the aircraft with the gyro off and perform trimming. How do you then after the maiden flight move the trims to the gyro and neutralize the trims on the transmitter ? is it ok to keep the trims on the transmitter ?
I would always and do always trim my aircraft mechanically before ever putting in the gyro, then only trim the plan with my transmitter. I have personally never used the trim feature within the gyro
@@MotionRC Trims are like stick input, so for example in gyro off mode, if you trim Aileron right because the airplane has the tendency to roll left, then switch the gyro on, the gyro would think you are putting right stick input, and roll the plane right, instead of keeping it level. Does this sound right ? what am i missing ? Thanks
Nice Video. I Need help. Is there a A3 Controller for Helicopters?
There is not. You would want a flybarless controller for a Heli like the Tarot on our website: www.motionrc.com/products/tarot-zyxs2-3-axis-flight-controller
What is difference between the Super 3 and the Super 4 version? Why no videos on Super 4 set up?
Are this stabilizer is compatible with Spektrum remote control.?
How to select mode for my JR DSX9 transmitter. The gear switch only have 2 positions and no 3 positions.
Thanks
Hi
Can I use this GUI to setup the A3 Super ll ?
If I understand correctly the model should be set up as normal in the transmitter, this means that you will have zero control over your flap menu ?
Not sure about the super 2. But no, you can add the flaps setup, that's not part of setting your model to "normal". By that we mean don't use the delta/elevon setups if you plan to use the gyro as the gyro has those settings
just one point, you keep saying positive lead up, the positive lead (+) is the middle lead. the top one is the signal, middle one is + bottom one is -
How to reverse servo correction direction? All mine are backwards
How do you install on a FUTABA 10J
Would love to see you do the setup with the jas-39 and the A3 super 3 gyro with your Futaba10j just wondering if the setup is different because of the conarded plane .
This video we did shows mixing the canards on a 10J. czcams.com/video/cllErpy2I08/video.html. Nothing would change by adding a gyro. You would still set up the gyro as in this video above.
the gyro is flashing red fast which means gyro sensing error where in the hookup did I go wrong is my dilemma.
I tried both ways SBus and standard way with no luck
@@vincentdunnvd You will then have to re-calibrate the sensor. For this you will want to download the software rather than use the programming card and connect to a computer. In the software there is a “Sensor” tab, put the gyro flat and click the “Calibrate” button to enter the calibration procedure.
@@vincentdunnvd You can find the software on the product page, under the support tab from MotionRC.com here: www.motionrc.com/products/eagle-a3-super-3-v2-programmable-6-axis-airplane-gyro-hea3s3#hash-tab-6
Please can you help me. My gyro always is blinking. Red. .....is he defekt. .? What must I do ..??
Why in the gyro and gain page under basic settings the on off and reversed doesn’t work?or does It!please explain
You have to click the read and write button to confirm any changes
If you put the plane in an unusual attitude and flip the auto-level as a "bail-out", it will put your plane into the ground. It will work "sometimes"..
Do we want to match the gyro throws with what our high rates would be on the plane?
no, the gyro gains have nothing to do with your rates
I have A3super3. During trying to use PC I choose 2Al+1El mode of flight. But clicking read I,be seen that sister moved to 1Al+1El mode itself. What is going on? Thanks.
Sorry so late, did you sort this out? Not really understanding what happened? Did you have the 2 aileron connections connected to the proper inputs on the gyro?
Got the A3 Mini and there is no Mac 'setup' compatibility??? In this day and age that's a BIG MISTAKE. Really Pissed off!!!
Hi James. How would you set up the A3S3 for the Freewing F-15 with the flaps?
Same as any other aircraft. Flaps have nothing to do with the Gyro. Gyro will only work on Aileron, Elevator and Rudder
@@MotionRCmy understanding is that it already takes 6 channels to install the a3s4
To have flaps requires a 7th
1. Thr
2. Ail
3. Ele
4. Rud
5. Mode switch
6.Gain
7. Flaps?
I'm not sure but it seems like a 6ch Rx is not enough
Is it possible to have trainer and auto level mode both turned on by one flick of a switch?
Trainer and Auto-Level are 2 different modes. Can't have 2 modes operating at the same time
On every plane it works perfect....on my fw190 flightline the trainer or auto level mode is not working perfect. I can not move the aileron,ruder,elevator smothly, they shiver if i move my sticks.....only in the trainer or autolevel mode. In normal or off mode it works perfect....whats the reason for that? In my other planes there was no problem.....
Are you still able to fly the plane normally in autolevel mode?
yes, the auto level only kicks in when you release the sticks. So why you are turning, climbing or doing aerobatics, it would be doing anything. But if you get disorientated then release the sticks and she'll fly straight and true
Will this work with a 4 Channel Spektrum receiver? Could you provide information is so?
Yes/No. You would want 5 or more channels for this as you need Thr. Ail. Ele. Rudder and the mode lead in an aux/gear port. But if your plane didn't have rudder lets say, then you could do it.
Hey. Great video but when I put it in “trainer” mode and I move the any surface, they flicker or twitch. Does anyone know what may be wrong? I just can’t imagine that to be any kind of normal.
Read my comment above. I tested two A3S3 and one A3S4. All of them have the same set of issues, and I wouldn't recommend this gyro at all.
Mate can I use level flight mode to help me take off and land my training plane it's a boomerrang nitro .45
And I have a spectrum dx6e
Where are you plugging in your BEC from plane into?
I just realized that there are a few open ports on the blue control box on my freewing f-22 to plug the BEC into. I originally had the BEC on one of my aux channels on receiver but it was using up one of my channels for nothing. So now I have that open aux channel for my mode switch on my hobby eagle a3 super3 gyro. I only have a 7 channel receiver so you have to choose the channels wisely.
"Please" Need help Video would be nice . I have a A3 Super 3 Gyro ,trying to set it up i my F-16C 6cell . The thing i need help on is #1 the wiring which way ! the receiver to control box then to gyro ? "WHAT" ? #2 have flaperon's saw the video out 4 out 5 could be used ? For the other Aileron wire , OK but left or right servo wire ? which one witch way ? then wires go from the gyro or to the receiver or control box ? Or how please help !
Question 1 was answered in the video. The Gyro is between the Planes servos and the RX, so you are plugging the servos in the gyro and then out from the gyro into the RX. #2 - it shouldn't matter which you plug in first, the software can make it correct. Then for #3, same as #1 since the control box is part of the plane, then the leads coming out of the control box go into the gyro, then out from the gyro into the RX
Well this gyro work with a Spectrum AR410 4 channel telemetry receiver, only using ailerons and elevator on this plane, so should the PPM/Bus/M line be plugged into the 4th channel on the receiver or the data port, also how do set this up on a 3 position switch ?
1. Yes this Gyro will work with any receiver. 2. only using the Aileron and Elevator is fine. 3. Yes, plug the PPM/Bus/M into your last open channel. 4. Then assign channel 4 to the 3 position switch you want to use on your transmitter within the transmitter. Once that is done, choose the 3 modes you want within the software like Gyro off, Gyro on, auto-level etc...
@@MotionRC Thank you, that was a big help
usb port not read for window 7
help
When I try auto-level it will level but one wing dips down,
and sometimes when it levels it does so inverted.. what is wrong ?
hard to say, but maybe you didn't set the gyro for the direction that you mounted it? Like if you have it set for a flat position but you mounted it in the plane on the side, it would try to level at the flat setting thinking the side is actually the bottom
@@MotionRC I mounted flat. I rechecked that and it was the correct color. I looked in the Motion Rc knowledge base and did not see any help there. I looked in RC Groups at their thread on the A3 and did not see help there (but only read some of the 350 pages). I ran 4 flight and got the same results. The gyro works well. I think the calibration must be good or else the gyro would be off. I bought 2 units (this is my first time to buy a gyro). I'll install the 2nd unit in a different plane and see if I get the same results. The Motion Rc web page chat was not active. Do you think someone in chat could help when it comes online ?
I have flaps --- so how do I set the position switch with a 6 chan rec?
This gyro doesn't involve flaps at all, flaps will be determined by whatever protocol (brand of receiver/transmitter) you are using
@@MotionRC my challenge is u have a 6 channel rec with a plane that demands 6 channels. So with all the slots taken on the rec where do I plug in the cable for changing flight modes.
@@ChipMitchell you will then need a receiver with more channels
James i don,t know how to assign a switch from my ix12 to operate the mode control in the a3 super3 set up software!Sir could you please tell me how to assign a switch from my ix 12 transmitter so i can set up the gyro? Thank You
I have never used an ix12. You will have to refer to the manual for that transmitter to find the channel assign page, but I assume its pretty straight forward. Just make sure whatever channel you plug the mode lead into on your RX is the channel you assign to whatever switch you want to use to change them.
@@MotionRC Thanks for the info good buddy!
Could you make this into head tracker?
This is a gyro, has nothing to do with head tracking.
Please show us 6 podition switch on nx seris radios for example nx 10,10se or if you can ix 20.thank you for yoyr domontrations.
Hi can you use one of these with a 3 channel plane or is it exclusively for 4 channel?
It will work with 3 channels for sure.
@@MotionRC thanks.
@@MotionRC what’s the best was to set it up using rudder and elevator on standard fix wing as you would on 4 channel just plugging rudder servo into aileron port? Sorry if it’s been covered bit new to this think it could help. Thanks
Hello, is posible connect flysky receiver by ppm?
Yes
Will it work with flapirons?
Yes, this one will, not the other versions
Does this work with elevons?
Yes, works on all control surfaces
Question! will this operate on an Apple Computer system?
Unfortunately not, only Supports Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 10. But then you will want the programming card. You can do it all with that.
Good video but loose the annoying music please
This information is all obsolete. How am I supposed to use this if I cannot dowoad any of the software. I have all brand new gyros I cannot use.
All the downloads are on the support tab of the product page, link is in the description
Aileron, not aleron.