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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • ** TODAY'S PUZZLE **
    A really excellent sudoku tonight from Dag H which combines the new "counting circles" ruleset with Yin Yang! Depending on how familiar you are with certain secrets, this might be quite an approachable puzzle (but still lovely to solve). But, in any event, it is a REALLY good sudoku.
    Have a go at the puzzle here:
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    Rules:
    Normal sudoku rules apply. Colour the entire grid in two different colours, so that a) each colour constitutes one orthogonally contiguous region, and b) no 2x2 square of cells is entirely one colour. A digit in a circle indicates how many times that digit appears in circles. All odd digits in circles are one colour, all even digits in circles are the other colour. White dots separate consecutive digits of opposite colour.
    The puzzle Simon mentioned in the introduction is called Region Geometry and it's by Emre Kolotoğlu. If you have some minutes free, you can try it at the link below. (Simon's solve is unlikely to appear because the video is 3hrs 36mins long and the CZcams algorithm will not be kind to it.
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  • @JDBJake
    @JDBJake Před 3 měsíci +84

    I'm waiting for the day a setter makes a Yin Yang puzzle where the final solution is the same as Simon's example

    • @jujunorman4695
      @jujunorman4695 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Me too

    • @stevieinselby
      @stevieinselby Před 3 měsíci +3

      Either the full comb or the perimeter entirely one colour!

    • @JDBJake
      @JDBJake Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@stevieinselby I was thinking the comb but the full perimeter is also a good shout lol

  • @inspiringsand123
    @inspiringsand123 Před 3 měsíci +36

    Rules: 03:42
    Let's Get Cracking: 06:19
    What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?!
    The Secret: 5x (06:22, 08:50, 09:02, 17:45, 20:51)
    Three In the Corner: 3x (28:06, 30:01, 36:37)
    And how about this video's Simarkisms?!
    Checkerboard: 16x (17:55, 18:00, 18:46, 19:18, 26:31, 26:34, 26:37, 26:39, 26:46, 27:30, 27:36, 28:59, 29:04, 29:13, 29:18, 32:17)
    In Fact: 10x (04:42, 07:34, 07:43, 07:43, 21:11, 23:20, 23:41, 25:04, 35:24, 37:42)
    By Sudoku: 9x (13:30, 15:10, 21:05, 23:52, 31:19, 31:42, 31:57, 31:59, 34:58)
    Sorry: 7x (11:50, 12:06, 16:46, 20:56, 20:56, 24:33, 33:17)
    Gorgeous: 4x (08:53, 15:10, 15:12, 36:55)
    Hang On: 4x (15:23, 22:02, 24:16, 29:07)
    Ah: 4x (05:48, 14:03, 32:09, 32:45)
    Beautiful: 3x (08:46, 09:57, 36:55)
    Weird: 3x (27:53, 27:56, 32:38)
    Naked Single: 2x (21:14, 35:27)
    Nonsense: 2x (20:23, 38:04)
    Brilliant: 2x (36:43, 36:46)
    Going Mad: 2x (33:07)
    I've Got It!: 2x (01:28)
    Obviously: 2x (07:20, 19:21)
    Pencil Mark/mark: 2x (13:43, 30:37)
    Triangular Number: 2x (07:51, 08:36)
    Goodness: 1x (27:45)
    Clever: 1x (27:04)
    Naughty: 1x (38:10)
    In the Spotlight: 1x (36:40)
    Straight Off the Bat: 1x (35:13)
    Take a Bow: 1x (36:52)
    Surely: 1x (23:54)
    Phone is Buzzing: 1x (13:15)
    Progress: 1x (29:33)
    Fabulous: 1x (02:13)
    What Does This Mean?: 1x (04:28)
    Nature: 1x (16:16)
    Cake!: 1x (02:50)
    Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video:
    Twenty One (6 mentions)
    Two (68 mentions)
    Blue (56 mentions)
    Antithesis Battles:
    Odd (26) - Even (20)
    White (7) - Black (0)
    Column (11) - Row (8)
    FAQ:
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  • @HunterJE
    @HunterJE Před 3 měsíci +31

    Saw what Simon was heading in to ending the puzzle with and was so satisfying that he did without even setting it aside on purpose

    • @arkb0t379
      @arkb0t379 Před 3 měsíci +4

      As soon as I saw all the 389 candidates going in I tried to focus on figuring out the top right corner ahead of Simon, and I wasn't disappointed

  • @frankjiang1857
    @frankjiang1857 Před 3 měsíci +16

    Finished in 41:42. What's strange for me about this puzzle, is that I didn't have to finish coloring in the spaces to solve the sudoku. So, about half way through the coloring, I just used normal sudoku rules to solve the sudoku. And it took me a decent amount of time more to solve the coloring.
    Fun puzzle!

    • @Quantris
      @Quantris Před 3 měsíci +5

      yup as soon as you get all the circle numbers filled in (well actually just their parity is enough) the coloring doesn't really matter anymore

    • @mikedonnan6541
      @mikedonnan6541 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Me too. I filled in all the digits with only 2/3 Ying Yang complete...and am now stuck (and am normally good at YY)...!!! 😆

  • @andremouss2536
    @andremouss2536 Před 3 měsíci +37

    26:27 seconds after Simon warns about a trap, he falls into !

    • @whatsleep17
      @whatsleep17 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Luckily the dots forced the same logic he used, just due to opposite colors, not even/odd

    • @rojavida
      @rojavida Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@whatsleep17You’d have to explain to me how that works. It just looks like he just got lucky. How would the kropkie dots force yin/yang colours on their own?

    • @asherhiggins7853
      @asherhiggins7853 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@rojavida The ruleset says "White dots separate consecutive digits of opposite color." I totally missed that too, and wondered how he got on so long without realizing his "mistake."

    • @rojavida
      @rojavida Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@asherhiggins7853I totally missed that! Thanks. I ended up solving the numbers without completing the colours but now it makes sense!

  • @harrysarai3947
    @harrysarai3947 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Last digit. That was the Chef's Kiss, to a brilliant puzzle.

    • @ruminator2943
      @ruminator2943 Před 3 měsíci

      I love that my brain is so focused on the solve that the confetti almost always catches me by surprise. The delight I experience has never diminished. Thank you Sven and setters for all the joy you send my way.🎉

  • @longwaytotipperary
    @longwaytotipperary Před 3 měsíci +27

    The ability of non circled digits to be either color regardless of being odd or even was confusing to me. However, Simon did a great job in solving the puzzle!

    • @agitatorjr
      @agitatorjr Před 3 měsíci +2

      Yes, I had to start over after spending a long time after realizing that.

    • @QuarkTwain
      @QuarkTwain Před 3 měsíci +7

      Same here. I purposely chose colors other than blue and orange, which helped to keep my brain from automatically coloring every odd digit orange

    • @waldolala2
      @waldolala2 Před 3 měsíci

      Yes, this was so confusing to me as well. Especially the white dot in box 3/6.

    • @JohnHazl
      @JohnHazl Před 3 měsíci

      I keep wanting to set a yin yang puzzle where the colors are all odd/even or high/low - and then I realize it would immediately break along the perimeter because every row and column has both odds and evens (and high and low digits).

    • @jdkemsley7628
      @jdkemsley7628 Před 3 měsíci

      To me it felt more unpleasant than confusing. Not a rational feeling, I suppose

  • @libbilation
    @libbilation Před 3 měsíci +43

    I humbly request more Yin Yang puzzles! They're my favorite variant and I always delight when they're featured on this channel.

    • @olleicua
      @olleicua Před 3 měsíci +2

      completely agree. Yin Yangs are a lot of fun and I also really like the counting circles so this was a great combination.

    • @brianj959
      @brianj959 Před 3 měsíci

      Yes, I always enjoy the colouring/sudoku combo puzzles and Simon is very good at them too.

    • @ZaidK_
      @ZaidK_ Před 3 měsíci +1

      You might enjoy a game called Nurikabe

  • @monicaarnett2527
    @monicaarnett2527 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I love seeing the more approachable puzzles. Usually I have no idea about how to go about the break in on the 4-5* puzzles. I got this one immediately and got the solve too.

  • @bobblebardsley
    @bobblebardsley Před 3 měsíci +7

    This was lovely but that whole initial phase of determining/limiting the circles as you worked through the 1, then the 2s, etc etc was really gorgeous, I'm still getting my head around the circle count rule so the fact that so much of that was dictated just by their position without doing any of the rest of the puzzle was magical.

    • @tBagley43
      @tBagley43 Před 3 měsíci +1

      here's how I got it: we know there aren't nine "9" circles, or eight "8" circles, because you would need to put that number in every box (in the case of 9) or all but one box (in the case of 8), and there can only be one appearance of that number in boxes 2 and 3 combined, or in boxes 4 and 7 combined. furthermore, we know there aren't seven "7" circles, because of that above fact, and because there can't be any circled 7 in box 8, since the 7 in that box is already placed.

    • @mc_davit
      @mc_davit Před 3 měsíci

      @@tBagley43 my start was counting the circles which there are 21 of, and looking at column/row 2 tells us that there are at least 6 different digits in circles, since 1+2+3+4+5+6 = 21, the number of circles we have, these digits are the only ones present in the circles

  • @JohnHazl
    @JohnHazl Před 3 měsíci +3

    Thank you for the video and for the praise! Very nice solve. This is the 3rd puzzle of mine you've solved and the 2nd Yin Yang - I just think they're neat!

    • @joelstevens5670
      @joelstevens5670 Před 3 měsíci

      Fabulous combination of the 2 rulesets. I loved that the digits in circles almost placed themselves and the yin yang did the rest. Many thanks, solving that gave me a huge amount of pleasure. 😊

  • @Millenassang
    @Millenassang Před 3 měsíci +12

    Day 1 of asking for the very long bonus videos🤤
    (Because we like to suffer to contemplate setter beauty but most of all watching you battling it out and missing the fact that you have to do sudoku as your next step)
    🤓

  • @leeway3739
    @leeway3739 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Since it didn't say that "not all white dots are given", my brain just assumed that ALL were given. I broke the puzzle 4 times before I caved and watched Simon's video to figure out what I was doing wrong. Puzzles work so much better when you are using the correct rules! 🤣

    • @thnderleg
      @thnderleg Před 3 měsíci +1

      Same. I seriously think puzzle setters should always include if not all the given clues are given.

  • @arianebarnes
    @arianebarnes Před 3 měsíci +7

    You were mostly right about row 1 column 4 at 20:12 It and column 5 cannot both be blue, so either they are both orange (and row 2 col 3 is blue), or they are split orange blue, and the rest of the exterior is orange.

  • @blobz-1
    @blobz-1 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Excellent puzzle -- props to Dag H. Loved watching your solve of it, Simon.

  • @JorgePacker
    @JorgePacker Před 6 dny

    I hate it when I have to check the video only to find out I missed a little bit of the rules! I managed to solve the sudoku, but the white dots separating colours was what I needed to finish the colouring!!! Loved this puzzle! 👌

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety Před 3 měsíci +2

    Wonderful puzzle! My brain had to fight hard to remember that non-circled digits _didn't_ need to match the parity of the yin-yang.

  • @chocolateboy300
    @chocolateboy300 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I completed the sudoku in 91 minutes. However, I still had a lot of coloring. I ended up needing Simon's help and the checkerboard trick was really helpful. I made a dumb oversight and forgot about the white dots giving opposite coloring. That made it way harder than it should've been. I ended up coloring everything in 192 minutes.

    • @BijickY
      @BijickY Před 3 měsíci

      Great perseverance. I like to see longer solve times in the comment section.

  • @_aullik
    @_aullik Před 3 měsíci +1

    This was surprisingly extremely hard for my brain. I colored the yin-yang part in orange and blue because of the odd even rule and i made MANY mistakes where i assumed an add digit in orange or an even in blue, or i colored a tile based on the number even tho it wasn't circled. I also cannot scan for the live of me.
    I had to go back after 40 minutes and redo it from the start with different colors and then it worked.

  • @katiekawaii
    @katiekawaii Před 3 měsíci +1

    This was great. 👏 Challenging enough that I needed your early pointers but approachable enough that I was able to take it from there and solve the rest on my own. I would love to see more like this!

  • @kilimanjarocruz660
    @kilimanjarocruz660 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Fantastic puzzle. I just don't like the wording of the rules. It seems to me that ``White dots separate consecutive digits of opposite colour'' implies a negative constraint (or for the very least is not clear either way).

  • @kolskit
    @kolskit Před 3 měsíci

    Simon's subconscious is hilarious. While he says consciously 'I don't see how it resolves' his pointer hovers directly over the '3/9' on r6c7 which had just been shown to be a 3 by the 9 in its row. Then while looking further he CLICKS on the 3/9 square subconsciously while talking about how he needs to figure out 'the high digits and the 3'. Then he consciously finds the 3/8 pair in row 5 that resolves box 6, and he does every other digit he can before getting back to box 6 where his voice gets all gravely for a second as he says 'That's a 3...'
    The human brain is a marvel.

  • @integralmystery
    @integralmystery Před 3 měsíci +3

    I was really excited to see the white dot constraint not saying "not all dots are given", and started looking for the negative constraint only to realise it breaks.

    • @nemoyatpeace
      @nemoyatpeace Před 3 měsíci +2

      Yeah, I'm struggling with the wording of that constraint, it sounds like it should be a negative constraint the way it is written. So, the fact that "not all dots are given" isn't included reads to me that if there isn't a dot, then they aren't consecutive/diff colors.

  • @tezcharold
    @tezcharold Před 3 měsíci +2

    Come on setters, it's time someone made an interesting ying yang with Simon's example shading. ;)

  • @emilywilliams3237
    @emilywilliams3237 Před 3 měsíci

    I loved this video and puzzle - I started the puzzle by myself before watching your solve, and did some things - but it was quite late tonight and I really wanted to just have the pleasure of watching you. So that's what I did - but I'll come back to this myself before too long! Thanks, Simon.

  • @Hakucho64
    @Hakucho64 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Loved the puzzle, thanks! Now to watch Simon's solve, which I'm sure will involve lots of revealage of secrets.

  • @dinane
    @dinane Před 3 měsíci

    Delightful puzzle! Delightful voice over! A delightful way to take a coffee break.

    • @dinane
      @dinane Před 3 měsíci

      Also just love that you got to the end to find the 3 in the corner.

  • @80fajoogaloo80
    @80fajoogaloo80 Před 3 měsíci

    Very fun puzzle. Always happy to see more yin yang :)

  • @lake1525
    @lake1525 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great puzzle Dag H! Always love a good yin yang puzzle

  • @DavidLai911
    @DavidLai911 Před 3 měsíci +1

    At 20:20, you might've been thinking how R1C5 could be blue instead of R1C4, probably with some similar logic to 25:20

  • @grahamania
    @grahamania Před 3 měsíci +2

    00:27:26 for me. Fantastic puzzle! Always love the combination of Yin Yang & Sudoku. Kind comment.

  • @raysouth1952
    @raysouth1952 Před 3 měsíci

    Great puzzle. I used the orange/blue combo to do the yinyang but I’ve done so many odd/even colouring puzzles I kept trying to eliminate wrong digits! Once I’d coloured the entire grid I switch to purple/green. It was doing my head in!

  • @taylorjohns6243
    @taylorjohns6243 Před 3 měsíci

    Took nearly an hour and a half but I'm proud of myself for solving without Simon's help this time! I was playing with where 5s and 6s could go for embarrassingly long before I noticed the 23 pair in C2, which forced a 5 onto the other white dot pair. Now to watch Simon's solve

  • @constanza1648
    @constanza1648 Před 3 měsíci

    I found this kind of easy when you know a couple of things about yin yang and circles. Lovely puzzle.

  • @zaps-aim
    @zaps-aim Před 3 měsíci +8

    Is that step at 26:26 valid? I don't see any basis for colouring r4c8 orange at this point. There's no circle there, so orange=odd can't be assumed for this cell.

    • @RichSmith77
      @RichSmith77 Před 3 měsíci +5

      I think Simon used incorrect reasoning (he was treating orange as odd, even though only seconds before he said he needed to be careful not to make that mistake). However, it could still be coloured orange for a different reason. We're told that white dots separate cells of different colour in the last line of the rules.

    • @ryanschroer9854
      @ryanschroer9854 Před 3 měsíci

      Same, I don't think it's valid

    • @zaps-aim
      @zaps-aim Před 3 měsíci +1

      ah yes, you're quite right ​ @RichSmith77 , so the step *is* valid at this point (but the given explanation is not)

    • @constanza1648
      @constanza1648 Před 3 měsíci

      I think he is accustomed to coloring polarity puzzles, so when he uses orange, he says "odd" without thinking twice. In this case, coloring and polarity only affect circles. But, of course, white dot made the trick.

    • @RichSmith77
      @RichSmith77 Před 3 měsíci

      @@constanza1648
      @26:16
      "When I say that becomes even, I mean it becomes blue actually. I better be precise."
      Just 10 seconds later...
      "So that becomes odd..."
      🙂
      The fact he refers to the cells on the white dot as a consecutive pair, I believe he actually means "odd" when he says odd, rather than "odd" simply standing in for orange. Especially as he seems to have forgotten that white dots separate colours later, at 32:55.

  • @Salman-os7pr
    @Salman-os7pr Před 3 měsíci

    Since last 3 days, I've been able to solve puzzles that you do! As much as I love easier puzzles I really wish to watch long 4/5 star puzzle solves from Simon instead (so I don't have to solve it) and leave Mark's puzzles to solve whenever I get time!

  • @jimi02468
    @jimi02468 Před 3 měsíci

    I wouldn't mind talking with Simon in parties. It would be a nerd party!

  • @clara931
    @clara931 Před 3 měsíci

    I do agree on the weather, even of I live quite far away from the UK. But weather warnings, 2 degrees, snow/rain slush mix and crazy winds. Here to hope it gets better soon

  • @GrahamFirst
    @GrahamFirst Před 3 měsíci

    How lovely for Simon to find a three in the corner at the very end, without even needing to "save it for later".

  • @Orenotter
    @Orenotter Před 3 měsíci +1

    There once was an otter named Oren
    Who at Cryptic puzzles was scorin',
    Who when he went to sleep
    Counted circles, not sheep.
    He was solving sudoku while snorin'!
    Okay, in truth, I was in the bathroom, but I had this grid pictured in my head and was working on it while AFK.

  • @user-ox9oo6wp6d
    @user-ox9oo6wp6d Před 3 měsíci +3

    I can complete the whole Sudoku part without the rule of "white dot separate opposite colour". That rule is simply for the Yin Yang part, which is very interesting.

    • @SirJefferE
      @SirJefferE Před 3 měsíci +2

      I thought it was kind of interesting that once you solve the circles, the ying yang section no longer has anything to do with the sudoku section, and you can solve every digit of the puzzle without even looking at the ying yang.
      I still finished the ying yang for completeness though.

    • @maljamin
      @maljamin Před 3 měsíci

      Wow, yes, I missed this rule and was flabbergasted with Simon for ... using this rule.

  • @kalimyre
    @kalimyre Před 3 měsíci +1

    19:00 I bet you're actually charming and interesting at parties, there's a reason people love watching you solve a logic puzzle for hours at a time

  • @Gonzalo_Garcia_
    @Gonzalo_Garcia_ Před 3 měsíci +3

    8:20 for me. Wow, I flew through this one. Great puzzle!!

    • @kupupuku-ff7dm
      @kupupuku-ff7dm Před 3 měsíci +1

      Your times are always phenomenal! I'm curious, how old are you? What do you do in life? Where are you from?

  • @psiphiorg
    @psiphiorg Před 3 měsíci

    It was nice to have a quick break-in with the circles and r2/c2. Lots of lovely logic that never required too much complex thought. My time today was 24:22, solver number 1805.

  • @katiekawaii
    @katiekawaii Před 3 měsíci

    I love that the very last digit was the three in the corner 😄

  • @ericpraline1302
    @ericpraline1302 Před 3 měsíci

    Fun, thanks. Lord knows why it took me so long to spot the 1 in r/c2, but it did. I think this is the first yin yang puzzle I've done in which the first step was not to use the border trick.

  • @mudscuffer
    @mudscuffer Před 3 měsíci

    I struggled to keep in mind that the even/odd restraint only applied to the circles, and managed to break the puzzle. Did a complete restart a few days later and solved in 23:14. It was quite nice after you get your head around it.

  • @nalulumbay
    @nalulumbay Před 3 měsíci

    Spent more than half an hour to solve this but I ran into contradiction midway in my solve. I restart it and solve it in 36:18. I'm so proud of myself because I rarely can solve sudoku with a lot of rules in it without watching Simon or Mark solve first.

  • @titusadduxas
    @titusadduxas Před 3 měsíci

    40:06 of pure joy. Absolutely loved it!

  • @stevieinselby
    @stevieinselby Před 3 měsíci +1

    At 23:45, I'm puzzled as to how Simon used the blue domino in box 2 to rule out r9c9 being blue but didn't then immediately colour the entire perimeter clockwise from r1c5 orange 🤔

  • @anaayoung9142
    @anaayoung9142 Před 3 měsíci

    Lovely puzzle and a great puzzle!

  • @wanderlustwarrior
    @wanderlustwarrior Před 3 měsíci

    47:22 for me. I spent over 12 minutes not entering in the last digit because I wanted to have the coloring correct first.

  • @tdbraun6837
    @tdbraun6837 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Good to see the Gathering for Gardner still continues...

  • @penningmeestercgkdelft9159
    @penningmeestercgkdelft9159 Před 3 měsíci

    Beautiful puzzle :-) It took me 63:34 to solve it, but finally I got there!

  • @EmonEconomist
    @EmonEconomist Před měsícem

    55:05 for me. I made a silly assumption with regard to negative constraints - turns out I was on the right track anyway, but that would have messed me up.

  • @zirco77
    @zirco77 Před 3 měsíci

    If Simon really wants to "chastise his brain", I think a cup of wine might do. ;)

  • @maljamin
    @maljamin Před 3 měsíci

    I love how it's starting to seem like Simon's refuge from his harshest critics is to chastise his own brain. Naughty brain.

  • @piasecznik
    @piasecznik Před 3 měsíci

    15:36 for the sudoku part. Not sure how long I took for the coloring because the timer stops when the sudoku section is finished...but probably another 20 minutes? Took me a while to remember/rederive the checkerboard trick.

  • @Landis963
    @Landis963 Před 3 měsíci

    48:00 on the dot! And with only a little help from Simon on the circles.

  • @Acylumgaming
    @Acylumgaming Před 3 měsíci

    All of the Islands of Insight Ive been playing has really trained my yin yang brain

  • @jonmeilstrup5419
    @jonmeilstrup5419 Před 3 měsíci

    It was an interesting puzzle, but the coloring part had multiple solutions. I finished the puzzle before watching Simon, and came up with a slightly different pattern for the two colors, that also matched the rules. Then, I watched to see where Simon differed from me. It was in one of the couple places where the assumption was the color matched the parity of the cell, even though it wasn't a circled number. I think the key difference for me was in box 1, where the 7 and 8 are separated by the white dot. In my solution, both are colored orange.
    So, there seems to be a unique set of numbers for the solution, but at least (and probably only) 2 coloring solutions to the puzzle.

    • @pvandewyngaerde
      @pvandewyngaerde Před 3 měsíci +3

      White dots separate consecutive digits of opposite color!

    • @jonmeilstrup5419
      @jonmeilstrup5419 Před 3 měsíci

      @@pvandewyngaerde Thanks for that comment--I must have missed that rule at the end. That would disambiguate the two different colorings I found.

  • @KeisariCubes
    @KeisariCubes Před 3 měsíci

    This would be a checkerboard if that's not blue -song request 😂 🎶

  • @bakingsteele
    @bakingsteele Před 3 měsíci

    Right at 25:12 when he misses the naked single of the 2. I love watching you solve by the way.

  • @markp7262
    @markp7262 Před 3 měsíci

    21:39 finish. A very nice puzzle, with some simple logic that might take a minute to click. Fun fun fun!

  • @piarittersporn
    @piarittersporn Před 3 měsíci

    Brilliant puzzle.

  • @abcadef6171
    @abcadef6171 Před 3 měsíci

    I'm silly and completely missed the six circles in row 2, but there's another way of seeing the start, that's also pretty enough to be worth mentioning: box 1, column 2, row 2, box 5, box 7, box 8, and box 9 are seven sudoku regions that contain all of the circles, so there can't be any digits more than 7, but also the given 7 in box 8 isn't in a circle, so there are no digits higher than 6, and hence the digits have to be 1,2,3,4,5,6.

  • @markablov
    @markablov Před 3 měsíci

    14:18, looks like counting circle rule now is very familiar to me :)

  • @danielmaryakhin3057
    @danielmaryakhin3057 Před 3 měsíci

    Managed to solve the puzzle while coloring just about half of the grid. Was fun anyway.

  • @stephansande
    @stephansande Před 3 měsíci +1

    Very nice puzzle. I think Simon made a mistake in 26:29. He said R4C8 was oranje because of the white dot. That cannot be said within the given ruleset! What am I missing here?
    Edit: argh! Must read the rules better.....

  • @olanmills64
    @olanmills64 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Did Simon overlook some logic in concluding that the circles must have the digits 123456? For example, when initially looking at the puzzle, isn't it true that the circles could contain 3567, or 12468, or indeed any set of digits that add up to 21?
    Now it turns out that in this puzzle the circles must contain 1-6, but I feel like you have to do some logic first to determine that. They can't contain a 9 because there is a row and a column with no circles. It turns out they can't contain an 8 because that implies there must be exactly one box where an 8 is not in a circle, and if you analyze the way the circles are arranged (the two lines of six circles), you will find that is not possible. Similarly, if the circles contain a 7, then there must be exactly two boxes which do not have 7 in a circle. However, again because of the arrangement of the circles in a line and then also the box with the given 7, you'll see that's not possible. Since the circles can't contain a 7, 8, or 9, then now you know they must contain the digits 1-6 in order to make up 21 circles.
    Am I wrong in my assumption that Simon skipped some steps?

    • @steve470
      @steve470 Před 3 měsíci

      His logic was solid. There are 21 circles, and because there are six circles in row 2 (and/or column 2), there must be at least six different digits in circles. There's only one set of six or more different sudoku digits that add to 21.

    • @olanmills64
      @olanmills64 Před 3 měsíci

      @@steve470 doh! Of course. Thanks

  • @doncook4097
    @doncook4097 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love this one. Is it me or is the yin Yang not unique? I found several ways to do it.

    • @Quantris
      @Quantris Před 3 měsíci +2

      I only found one way (same as in the video); which cells do you have different?
      Edit: make sure you're following the rule that white dots separate opposite colours

  • @tBagley43
    @tBagley43 Před 3 měsíci +1

    you don't know that the digits in circles are 1 through 6 just because 21 is the 6th triangular number. there are many other combinations it could be, for instance, 1+2+5+6+7 = 21.
    here's how I got it: we know there aren't nine "9" circles, or eight "8" circles, because you would need to put that number in every box (in the case of 9) or all but one box (in the case of 8), and there can only be one appearance of that number in boxes 2 and 3 combined, or in boxes 4 and 7 combined. furthermore, we know there aren't seven "7" circles, because of that above fact, and because there can't be any circled "7" in box 8, since the 7 in that box is already placed.

    • @virginvalleyhighschooljazz864
      @virginvalleyhighschooljazz864 Před 3 měsíci +2

      It could be, except row 2 (or column 2) has 6 circles in it. So your example would need to repeat one of those numbers in the row. Once you need 6 different numbers, the triangular number rule comes into effect.

  • @RL-gl8qg
    @RL-gl8qg Před 3 měsíci

    I love Simon's brain. I'm sure he has many other fine body parts, but the brain is just lovely.

  • @six_5000
    @six_5000 Před 3 měsíci +1

    52:20, neither gracefully nor elegantly

  • @TurquoizeGoldscraper
    @TurquoizeGoldscraper Před 3 měsíci

    36:21 for me - I was worried that I would get mixed up with the rules and think the non-circled digits followed the coloring rules, instead I miscounted how many circles I filled in and filled too many with 3.

  • @DitDede
    @DitDede Před 3 měsíci

    At around 12:40, the way I figured out the 5s and 6s is to look at column 2, which hold consecutive pairs. One of them would have to be 2-3, and the other would be 5 with either 4 or 6. Thus, R1C2 has to be even (the other 4 or 6) and R1C1 is odd (5)

    • @DitDede
      @DitDede Před 3 měsíci

      Never mind, Simon got there a couple of minutes later :)

  • @marcbennett9232
    @marcbennett9232 Před 3 měsíci

    Res Arcana is fantastic. and you pronounced it correctly!

  • @iceberg54321
    @iceberg54321 Před 3 měsíci

    30:25 missed a bit of logic in column 3, you can't have a 79 pair, they are not consecutive, and you see an 89, so it has to be 78 with a 9 in box 3, which gives you the 8 and 9 in column 2.

  • @dustyburwell592
    @dustyburwell592 Před 3 měsíci

    35:31 this here is the moment I realized “that’s three in the corner”

  • @jillyapple1
    @jillyapple1 Před 3 měsíci

    There mere fact there are 21 circles does not mean they are populated with only 1-6. If the placement were different, it could be 4, 8, and 9. However, given the placement, I was able to rule out 7, 8, and 9, which did leave 1-6 as the necessary numbers.

  • @johnbell9074
    @johnbell9074 Před 3 měsíci

    45 mins for me. Thanks!

  • @mstmar
    @mstmar Před 3 měsíci

    i missed the part about white dots separating opposite colors, and finished the sudoku but couldn't for the life of me find out how to make progress on the coloring beyond the circled digits +border

  • @MjDiabolo
    @MjDiabolo Před 3 měsíci

    20:44 Probably another comment told you already, and you figured it out later anyway of course, but i guess your brain wasn't talking to you about why the cell above the circled 46 pair in row 1 cant be orange, but rather about why the cell above the circled 2 right next to it cant be blue. (Because it would isolate a orange next to it or create a blue 2x2)
    -a yin yang noob enjoying your content (and beeing a litte bit proud about spotting things befor you do, while just learning the rules. although it is easier, when i am just watching, and >95/100 things you absolutly spot befor me 😄)❤

    • @MjDiabolo
      @MjDiabolo Před 3 měsíci

      21:55 uhh another spot: the 17 works its way right back, the lower circle in box 7 must be odd, that u can colour :) thats a satisfying thing in (the solve of) the puzzle

  • @smahoney1212
    @smahoney1212 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Chocolate Cake is great. I will point out that today in the US in National Banana Bread Day!

  • @liammcg8904
    @liammcg8904 Před 3 měsíci

    So , I solved it in 36:51. But I only got halfway through doing the ying yang - that gave me the parity of the digits in the circles, and once I got that finished, I had enough info to solve the placement of all the digits by regular sudoku.
    Feels really wierd - I got the alert saying the I got the puzzle correct, but my screen is still half filled with white dots :)

    • @liammcg8904
      @liammcg8904 Před 3 měsíci

      At 26:28, Simon says it's a consecutive pair, and labels a square orange, but that restriction only applied to squares with circles, not non-circled squares.

    • @steve470
      @steve470 Před 3 měsíci

      @@liammcg8904"White dots separate consecutive digits of opposite color". Whether Simon made a logical error or just misspoke, the colouring was justified by the rules.

    • @liammcg8904
      @liammcg8904 Před 3 měsíci

      sorry yes, thanks for that, i read the rules incorrectly. @@steve470

  • @mc_davit
    @mc_davit Před 3 měsíci

    31:31 had the sudoku solved in 25 minutes but couldn't do the yin-yang without simon mentioning white dots separate color, totally forgot that part

  • @258hunterkill
    @258hunterkill Před 2 měsíci +1

    It's almost tragic to see Simon identify the weakness on the 2-6 domino in box 2 multiple times, but never quite see the 2x2 logic.

  • @iceberg54321
    @iceberg54321 Před 3 měsíci

    Someone construct a puzzle with his example of yin-yang.

  • @srwapo
    @srwapo Před 3 měsíci

    19:40, took a few minutes to figure out the digits in the circles (obvious once I had the right thought!)

  • @Melissa_Hz
    @Melissa_Hz Před 3 měsíci

    Simon kindly stop teasing us with the 3 hour solve. You know we all want to see it! 😆

  • @laurettadelmar2781
    @laurettadelmar2781 Před 3 měsíci

    19:58 anyone else staring at Row 7 Column 1 and willing it to become a 4 😂

  • @daanperelachaise
    @daanperelachaise Před 3 měsíci +1

    That went fast - 8:53. At around the 25:30 minute mark in the video it's possible to figure out the parity of all the circle-digits, after that i ditched the coloring, that saved a lot of time.

    • @srwapo
      @srwapo Před 3 měsíci +3

      But, the rules say you have to color!
      (says someone who colors puzzles that don't need it an embarrassing amount of times)

    • @RichSmith77
      @RichSmith77 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Save time by using this one simple trick: Don't complete the puzzle!

    • @daanperelachaise
      @daanperelachaise Před 3 měsíci

      Alright, sort of a fair point :). When you think about it it's silly not to do a bit of the puzzle to finish quicker but missing out on fun doing so. However, i do feel that puzzle constructors should build puzzles that actually require puzzlers to use the constraints they put in. I (and many others, i suppose) am left feeling a bit unsatisfied when something is only half-useful and half-necessary.

  • @navifx4
    @navifx4 Před 3 měsíci

    I spent several minutes trying to figure out where the rest of the colors went after I got all the numbers in

  • @SomethingWellesian
    @SomethingWellesian Před 3 měsíci

    And at 22:23 I learn the rule misreading that’s steered me wrong so many times in this puzzle.

  • @masu33
    @masu33 Před 3 měsíci

    Solved it without the secrets, so it is not necessary to use them, I'd say. :) Possible that it would have been more elegant though...

  • @zackfelker
    @zackfelker Před 3 měsíci

    The description ruleset is incomplete!

  • @scudzilla
    @scudzilla Před 3 měsíci +1

    Is this missing a dot on the central 4 and the 5 above?

    • @steve470
      @steve470 Před 3 měsíci

      There's no negative constraint, although I think the rules could have been worded better to make that more clear.

  • @benjaminrealy5661
    @benjaminrealy5661 Před 3 měsíci

    51:38. I misread the white dots as being of seperate colours instead of consecutive digits of separate colours. So that definitely cost me some time. Also only did the colouring until all circles were coloured. Kind of disappointed i didnt HAVE to solve all or most of the colouring to find the solution to the sudoku. 3/10.

  • @artsenor254
    @artsenor254 Před 3 měsíci

    44:28, never been this close to Simon's time.

  • @_-_-Sipita-_-_
    @_-_-Sipita-_-_ Před 3 měsíci +1

    9:05 for me.