HOW TO TAPE AND MUD BUTT JOINTS (pre-fill)
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- How to properly tape and mud butt joints. From prefill to properly taping and mudding the joint. Using the right type of mud is important to make sure your joint does not crack and that your tape does not blister.
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0:00 - Intro
1:08 - Prefill drywall joint
3:08 - Drywall mud setup
4:29 - Mud and tape drywall joint
7:08 - Taping with Quickset mud
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Angling the blade, perfect thanks for the tip. Also, nice to see you take your time to show the process you didn’t need to spread the mud like a madman. A lot of experts work quickly because it’s second nature to them but for the weekend DIYer it helps to see you take your time. Once again, thanks.
Thanks, your video was very helpful in when to use one kind of mud vs. the other. I happen to have both quickset and premixed, and just finished installing drywall on the garage ceiling. Between a lot of obstacles there (garage door tracks/motor, steam pipes, electrical conduit etc.) and my inexperience it took a lot of pieces, some of which have larger gaps to fill. This gave me what I need to use the products I have.
You are well spoken. I could see your channel growing well. Thanks for the content
Thank you. I appreciate the feedback.
As a D W finisher for 30 plus years I have learned to always pre fill, often using durabond.
Great video. Right to the point, no fluff! Perfect!
I'm not here to tell you that you are bad or don't know what youre doing. But change your blade and please don't cut towards your hand when you are 45ing those edged. I've seen it to many times. Guys putting pressure to cut rock with a dull blade and knife slips off and opens them right up. Your work is fine. But getting home safe is number one.
I appreciate the feedback, and I agree with you.
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I think they have a durabond 20 too for ceilings gotta luv that durabond
Durabond/the hard stuff unlike easy sand
brown bag and v trowel with paper tape pre soak.
I always use the white bag afterwards and , premix after the room has a primer coat and anything possibly missed.
Pre fill with hot mud , tape with fibafuse and 45 min or 20minute , quick scrape then coat with lightweight mud , scrape then sand when dry and should only have to do touch ups
Good info/demonstration for a novice like myself.
He's also a novice😆, maybe y'all could teach each other a thing or two lol
Great video. Watch and listen to those journeymen of the trades. Drywall people that mud and tape every day know the proper
techniques. It is great to learn from the best.
This needs more views
I agree
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I completely agree.
Great video. Thank you!
COOL STUFF THANKS FOR SHARING
I cant tell this is something that you do really often..!!
Is the point of the 45° cuts to increase the amount of surface area between the two pieces, essentially reducing the gap? I'm currently doing a drywall repair, and I screwed in my new piece (using some scrap wood to increase the structural integrity). I'm at the point now where I need to spackle over the screws and the seams, but I'm not sure how I should proceed. I also bought some mesh tape as well, but I want to ensure I do it the professional way.
Was there a stud behind the crack?
I would use a slightly more wet mud before putting the tape on. to avoid any airpockets under it and have a stronger bond. it looked slightly on the dry/sturdy side.
what does that paper tape actually do? It doesn't look strong enough to do much
You can actually turn 45 into 20 .By planning out your next moves. Another words mix in advance. So when you apply don't need to wait as long for set up.
I’ve been watching many videos on drywall to learn as much as I can and increase my skills. You could have still used gauze tape with that gap once you filled it. I don’t see the difference filling a gap then taping on top of it later.
I'm new to home repair and still trying to figure everything out but it's really nice to see someone who wants me to fill in the joint instead of just putting tape over a half inch Gap all the way around a panel. This did not make any sense to me and I think those are the people who have to get their jobs repaired later by people like you
How do you fill in a larger 1-2 inch gap with the 45degree cuts can you put screws in there so the mud has something grip on to
You don’t, you put in another sheet that’s been measured right.
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Why do you have a 2 inch gap?
@@usa5439 he's referring to the dude in the video, he already had a large gap so cutting 45s just made the gap larger. I wouldn't take advice from the dude in the video he seems like he's just learning. Watch Vancouver Carpenter if you want good advice.
The issue you will have with all purpose will be sanding. Look for taping mud. Try to avoid green lids for taping. Certainly you can use it for instants if you slapped up a bathroom in a work shop and the sanding dust doesn’t matter
Question.... So Useful video thanks by the way... But i still messed up... I missed my cut by 1/8 or so around shower drop ear, so when i drilled drywall it cracked a little in a circle, i cut and pushed it up, but seems like the only thing holding the crumbled drywall is the paper... It feels a tiny bit weak around that hole... Do i scrap it and redo it or what would you do? Damn mold resistant drywall is 20 bucks each, hurts to just throw away unless I have to... What would you do? 😭😭😭
something small like that? Cut it out, mesh tape and 20-45 minute hot mud. smooth it well as it's not 'easy sand'. Once dry, skim coat with regular mud and dry/sand/paint/tile. '
I have one hole big enough to put my index finger through, 3 holes big enough to put a pencil through, multiple tiny nail holes, several places where it's dug out but not all the way through, and gaps where I cut out the bottom 6 or 12 inches and put new pieces in (its not a tight fit). I cut off the bottom part because my son kept dogs in the room and the shit and urine soaked into the drywall. I saw on other videos people using a sealer on the torn patches. One commenter said he used 1 part white glue to 2 parts water instead. Do i use the quick 45 in the holes and seams, then sealer, then all purpose, then sealer, and then paint?
You can use 20 minutes or 5 minutes hot mud for the small holes. On the long one on bottom do the same but put mesh tape as soon as you put the mud or let it dry, then mesh tape and then ready mix multy purpose joint compound, sand everything after dry, then primer, then paint.
@@joaquinsuarez6090 I used the 45 hot mud over the seams and in the holes. I put some water in a bottle and then some glue and mixed it up good, then poured that in some water and put 45 hot mud powder in it and mixed it all up. It dried so fast that I didn't finish one batch of mud. It was hard as a rock soon. I sanded it a little. I pressed on it a little and it didn't move. I was thinking of going over the seams with all purpose, them put the paper tape on, then go over the tape with more all purpose, then sand and paint with paint and primer mix that I got cheap one time. I started to skim with all purpose on one wall, and it looked like the yellow discoloration got bigger. Before I started working on the room, I sprayed the walls with bleach and water mixture from watching a video. It looked like the yellow discoloration disappeared in some spots. I sprayed several times in some spots and wiped with a sponge. I was afraid of spraying too much so I quit. I don't know what to think of the part I skimmed.
Why do you need paper tape? Could you not just use the different fillers? I have never done this before, just wondering why paper is used.
If either paper or mesh tape of some type is not used the compound will crack when it dries. The paper is used essentially as a “weld” of sorts if that makes sense, the compound bonds to the drywall and the tape, and the tapes strength keeps everything from cracking.
The one thing that annoys me about some guys taping out drywall is that they never state which side of the tape lays on the butt joint or Factory Edge thank you for stating which side of the tape to lay down
I appreciate the feedback.
Like aluminum foil, which side up on food 🤔
@@davidjavids2431No, there is not difference between sides of foil. Basically when manufacturing, they put 2 sheets of aluminum in the rollers, and what you're seeing is the side that touched the roller VS the side that touches the other sheet of aluminum.
That easy set was rock hard before he even started working all the talking he did😂😂😂
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Instead using all porpuse...can I use hot mud 20 min?
Ya. I would suggest all purpose for your last coat just cause it will be a bit easier to sand.
@@HomeRepairHub true. But I have to wait one day to dry?
Not necessarily. A skim coat usually dries in a few hours, depending how thick it is. For it to completely set up, probably should wait 24hrs before painting. Though, not always necessary.
I had an old guy show me this technique but he would wet the tape before bedding it.
I have seen tapers actually water the paper mudding tape, is that another option..? to actually water the tape.
I am not familiar with that technique. What would be the benefit of putting water on the tape?
No, that's an old wives tale.
@@dbo8336 Really? Amazing. I would guess it comes for way back in the day when people did paper mache. It's non-sense.
Dam my guy how many times you gonna wipe!! it probably gonna blister now 😂
What happens if you dont use tape?
When the mud dries the joint will show. The tape also serves to strengthen the joint. Its always best to tape a joint. The joint will eventually Crack and you will see it.
@@HomeRepairHub thank you very much!
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How many times did he say umm
You started it but didn’t finish? How is that helpful?
so where is the rest of the steps, you have only shown the easy parts, novices need to see the whole process
It's in the next video in the description
Do not put hand under blade when cutting. It’s hurts dull or new blade
I appreciate the feedback.
I thought they were called buttjoint because they're a pain in the butt.
Use mesh
Rookie
I'm new at this and even I can tell this dude just started doing this after a couple videos
please don't run for Senat-e Schiif
No no no
Not saying it to be mean but if you're a mud and tape guy I'm an astronaut. I've been in this business over 50 years. Thinking you're a professional and being professionals two different things.
Prefilling is overrated. Just push the tape inside the joint and wait for it to dry before recoating.
Please don't do this for a living 😂
@AndrewB23 And yet somehow my joints don't crack. Weird, huh?
Yessirrr 👍🏻
Thats called a bastard joint
You don't need to 45 if you already had a large gap just prefill and tape it, also that's way too much cut off for those 45s. Judging by you patch next to you it seems like your new trying to teach others because those edges aren't even feathered, I'm not trying to dog you but you shouldn't teach if you're also just learning and if you've been doing this for years you might want to move to something else.
Look at the thin set on the tile….probably shouldn’t be making how to videos
Was anyone else distracted by the horrible tile work?
Looks fine to me, no grout and it hasn’t been cleaned yet
Never cut 45 with your non cutting hand infront of knife. Your one lucky son of a lol. Use both hands. Youl keep both hand and fingers.
Why didn’t you us mesh🫤
You can use mesh tape, but you need to use hot mud not all purpose. I use tape on pretty much everything. Mesh tape is okay for small patches.
@@HomeRepairHub not at all. Mesh requires a different application. I use a 4”roller
Good basic technique
@@briankowald6465 exactly