Lance Armstrong & Paul Kimmage verbal battle at Tour of California 2009

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  • @keithcarass2529
    @keithcarass2529 Před 9 lety +55

    Fair play to Lance winning all those tour de France's I couldn't even find my bike when I was on drugs lol

    • @keltiquewood
      @keltiquewood Před 2 lety

      Legendary comment! Congrats Sir! 🙂

  • @stratocaster1986able
    @stratocaster1986able Před 10 lety +124

    I imagine vindication for Kimmage was an incredibly liberating feeling, something that he knew would eventually come but just didn't know when.
    Kimmage is a legend.

    • @institorisinstitoris959
      @institorisinstitoris959 Před 6 lety +1

      With that sort of legends...well...look at this world...

    • @nathanielkahn9681
      @nathanielkahn9681 Před 4 lety +1

      low bar for a "legend"

    • @jonescrusher1
      @jonescrusher1 Před 4 lety +1

      @@nathanielkahn9681 Nope, Armstrong can get fucked

    • @nathanielkahn9681
      @nathanielkahn9681 Před 4 lety

      @captain pugwash Please read carefully, I did not defend him. Everything you said is true, but I never said otherwise

    • @nathanielkahn9681
      @nathanielkahn9681 Před 4 lety

      @captain pugwash I'm not sure why you are telling me this? Maybe meant to reply to someone else?

  • @johnniejay
    @johnniejay Před 8 lety +57

    "A brave man is a man who dares to look the Devil in the face and tell him he is a Devil." - James A. Garfield

  • @clohan84
    @clohan84 Před 3 lety +30

    Paul Kimmage is one of the best investigative journalists that has ever been involved in cycling. He persisted through thick and thin, even when Lance and Team Sky mounted vicious legal battles to suppress his exposés. The lickspittles journalist crew who chuckled away at the end of this clip should be ashamed of themselves and their enabling of Armsrong.

    • @timtaylor9590
      @timtaylor9590 Před rokem

      are you and him the biggest morons of all time?

  • @Colddeed
    @Colddeed Před 10 lety +68

    I guess Kimmage get's the last laugh.

    • @DanielC__
      @DanielC__ Před 3 lety +1

      Not really. Armstrong is still worth millions and Kimmage is a popper.

  • @fredb0714
    @fredb0714 Před 10 lety +74

    That is a perfect example of how hard it was to take Lance down. When I hear people say Lance was unfairly singled out I point to cases like this that have nothing to do with the fact he doped. It is all about his constant character assassinations ("you are not worth the chair you are sitting on") that he did to Paul Kimmage, David Walsh, Emma O'Reilly, the Andreau's etc., etc., etc. Lance has got everything he deserves.

    • @PanchoVillasTortilla
      @PanchoVillasTortilla Před 11 měsíci

      Armstrong was a master manipulator with powerful rhetoric and at his core a total bully that i would argue most hyper successful men are. That said he also he raised millions for cancer treatment. Im not arguing that one cancels the other, but it makes the lore of Armstrong very strange and conflicted. Other fraudsters make and steal money and leave victims, Armstrong made millions for cancer patients while defrauding corporate sponsors who made millions themselves on viewership. It’s all very weird.

    • @Ldoggmillionaire
      @Ldoggmillionaire Před 7 měsíci

      But thats no way to run a sport. You only lose your titles for doping if you also are a prick personally. Dope all you want as long as your nice to people, you can keep your titles. Its ludicrous

  • @Caravanaserai
    @Caravanaserai Před 10 lety +34

    Funny thing, the sponsor AMGEN (a pharmaceutical company displayed in the back) is one of the leading producers of EPO in the world!

    • @stargazerspark4499
      @stargazerspark4499 Před 7 lety +2

      Caravanaserai chronic EPO use combined with steroids = cancer

  • @johnkelleher1877
    @johnkelleher1877 Před 6 lety +14

    The nervous laugh from the crowd at the end, sycophants. As we all were at the time, myself included. This was when lance was at peak popularity, an absolute superstar. It took character to up against that in such a public forum.

  • @EndaRochford
    @EndaRochford Před 11 lety +15

    Proud to be Irish. Well done Paul Kimmage

  • @KDoc1951
    @KDoc1951 Před 7 lety +13

    Paul Kimmage's persistence paid off. Armstrong is everything you don't want your child to be - a creep.

  • @conradmtd
    @conradmtd Před 10 lety +66

    Nothing but admiration for Paul Kimmage.
    He made a stand and sacrificed his own reputation to expose a cheat when those around him fell silent.
    I hope RTE puts his documentary on the RTE Player so more people can see it.
    Well done Paul and keep exposing the truth.

    • @nathanielkahn9681
      @nathanielkahn9681 Před 4 lety +1

      nothing to admire

    • @oliver69cork46
      @oliver69cork46 Před 4 lety +4

      @@nathanielkahn9681 to hide the truth is admirable is it?

    • @nathanielkahn9681
      @nathanielkahn9681 Před 4 lety

      @@oliver69cork46 i dont know what you mean

    • @timtaylor9590
      @timtaylor9590 Před rokem

      they all cheat you moron so his entire career would be nothing but talking shit to cheaters? thats every single athlete. you ppl are dumb af

  • @colinfinlayson3212
    @colinfinlayson3212 Před 11 lety +7

    It's amazing that there were people actually laughing Kimmage off. Ridiculous! Bravo Paul!

  • @DuncanPalmer1984
    @DuncanPalmer1984 Před 11 lety +7

    I lost my Mum to cancer. I have no reason to have to forgive Kimmage for anything. He is courageous in his journalism. Keep up the good work.

    • @alcoyne3333333333333
      @alcoyne3333333333333 Před rokem

      R.I.P

    • @sambosmans3473
      @sambosmans3473 Před měsícem +1

      especially when you stop and think about HGH making cancer (or tumors) grow faster, which he has admited taking before his diagnosis. RIP to your mother.

  • @DJT3D
    @DJT3D Před 10 lety +23

    1:33 Neither are you, Lance

  • @TheVinokourov
    @TheVinokourov Před 13 lety +15

    Hincapie and Leipheimer, the thousand yard stare...I can't wait for the day it all comes out!

  • @Dessienewshoes
    @Dessienewshoes Před 5 lety +10

    When Lance says 'noble' I lost it.

  • @killboggins
    @killboggins Před 10 lety +63

    Notice how all y'all who supported Armstrong are very quiet.

    • @tiehut
      @tiehut Před 8 lety +5

      +killboggins millions of dumb asses still admire lance

    • @pavanatanaya
      @pavanatanaya Před 5 lety

      tiehut millions of dumbasses are dumbasses

    • @niconesta8566
      @niconesta8566 Před 4 lety +5

      I supported that asshole all 7 tours I rooted for that Texas fraud. After it was revealed I emailed that scum that he cheated me out of 7x3=21 weeks of life. I only recently started following cycling again thanks to this arrogant prick. Yes i too believed his great lies he was so persuasive and was smart enough to use cancer to cover his lies. A sick psychopath who I think needs to do some jailtime for fraud. A French jail please. LIESTRONG! Btw every brand he has worn I stay away from.

    • @rockymountainhigh9379
      @rockymountainhigh9379 Před 4 lety +1

      The biggest problem is they all doped. Lance was the best cyclist during his time. Don't forget, 87% of the riders who placed below Armstrong in the top 20 during the tour were popped for doping.

    • @colinmontgomery1956
      @colinmontgomery1956 Před 4 lety +1

      I never liked Armstrong.

  • @KOHF34
    @KOHF34 Před 7 lety +81

    You do have to give Lance credit for one thing: he is one of the greatest scam artists in American history. Kudos, Paul Kimmage.

    • @rockymountainhigh9379
      @rockymountainhigh9379 Před 4 lety +4

      The biggest problem is they all doped. Lance was the best cyclist during his time. Don't forget, 87% of the riders who placed below Armstrong in the top 20 during the tour were popped for doping.

    • @Unborn-Stillborn
      @Unborn-Stillborn Před 4 lety +10

      @@rockymountainhigh9379 he wasnt the best cyclist at the time or even close. He came nowhere when he and others were clean. Even he admits this. The only advantage he had over others is that he had a better doping system . Get your facts right.

    • @rockymountainhigh9379
      @rockymountainhigh9379 Před 4 lety +3

      @@Unborn-Stillborn Scam, you're obviously a rookie cycling fan. Being a lance hater is fine and jealousy is a natural human instinct however anyone that is a veteran cyclist and cycling fan knows my facts are correct. Spew your hatred but we all know no one could beat Lance in his prime. The guy was beating the best pro triathletes in the world when he was 16. Get a clue scam.

    • @Unborn-Stillborn
      @Unborn-Stillborn Před 4 lety +8

      @@rockymountainhigh9379 armstrong was a national triathlon champion 1989 and 1990. Never a world champion. Which all has nothing to do with his cycling stats. He was nowhere in cycling until he juiced, unless you think you know more that the people who called him out on these stats. But i get it, you probably still have a yellow wrist band and find it hard to accept that he was nothing but a lying cheating bully.

    • @rockymountainhigh9379
      @rockymountainhigh9379 Před 4 lety +2

      @@Unborn-StillbornScam, you are going to lose this debate. Without debate Lance destroyed the competition for 7 years. Please give up now. Do your research and you can agree with me afterwards.

  • @jaklgjklwejkjfkdjsa
    @jaklgjklwejkjfkdjsa Před 10 lety +10

    The look at 0:56 on Hincapie and Leipheimer is like "duhhhhhh." They know he doped and they're just caught in the headlights.

  • @DavidL999
    @DavidL999 Před 11 lety +7

    Great to see Paul finally vindicated after all these years!

  • @mahlstadt
    @mahlstadt Před 11 lety +4

    Inspirational. It takes an immense effort to exude such self-confidence and repress all self-doubt during an interrogation.
    I challenge anyone here to do this and then skilfully manipulate the crowd against the questioner.
    A masterful performance by Armstrong.

  • @samanthaoaklandcd
    @samanthaoaklandcd Před 10 lety +7

    Mr. Kimmage was moderately successful in racing himself, in Europe and a bit in America. He has written an excellent book, "A Rough Ride," which examines racing and the doping situation in some depth. It's difficult to hear the dialogue in this video. Is there a transcript available?

  • @PastyIrishBoy
    @PastyIrishBoy Před 9 lety +16

    What a disgrace, Not so smart now is he? Good Riddance and well done to Paul for having the brevity to confront him about it!

  • @bobfoc1979
    @bobfoc1979 Před 14 lety +1

    It is that diplomatic, fair and respectful attitude that makes Lance so admired by so many people. Watching a true gentleman deal with sleazy press is a joy. I wish Lance all the best.

  • @GodOfVictory501
    @GodOfVictory501 Před 10 lety +62

    Nice to see Lance's dumb and naive apologists have been silenced. Kudos to Paul Kimmage for doing the brave thing and confronting that malignant cheat Armstrong.

    • @tiehut
      @tiehut Před 8 lety +1

      +Robot Lover millions of dumb asses still admire lance

    • @navylaks2
      @navylaks2 Před 5 lety

      I think it was Armstrongs lying which drove Robin Williams to take his own life

  • @stephenkennelly
    @stephenkennelly Před 15 lety +2

    Thanks for posting up the full version rather than just the St. Lance retort.
    It puts context on Kimmage's 'Cancer' comment.

  • @Tracywithafacey
    @Tracywithafacey Před 11 lety +5

    Lance spent much of his best years in cycling making statements to appear above many people. He always made it seem like everybody else was on such a lower moral ground than him, that they were such horrible people. The fact is a cancer is a malignant growth or tumour, and Lance was exactly that. How things have changed since this occurred in 2009. One cannot underestimate how much of a battering Lance's ego will have taken in 2012, and rightly so. David Walsh and Paul Kimmage, we salute you.

    • @timtaylor9590
      @timtaylor9590 Před rokem

      idiot you got it backwards ppl attacked lance for doing what everyone else did and does to this day, sorry he's not a bitch like you

  • @lightstalkerme
    @lightstalkerme Před 11 lety +1

    Paul Kimmage, Every true fan of cycling around the world thanks you for your work against drug cheats ........ Really honestly you have done an incredible thing you are a man of true character. THANK YOU PAUL

  • @wngdfeet
    @wngdfeet Před 14 lety +3

    I love George and Levi's expression "mommy and daddy are fighting!" lol

  • @darkstorm207
    @darkstorm207 Před 11 lety +3

    Mr. Kimmage, you sir are a hero and have my utmost respect.

  • @shellsbignumber2
    @shellsbignumber2 Před 4 lety +1

    George Hincapie with that Thousand-yard stare.

  • @Gintonious
    @Gintonious Před 11 lety +5

    Will you give him that interview now, Lance?

  • @slantyrock
    @slantyrock Před 11 lety

    Pure excellence. I'd love to sit Lance down, and play this to him over and over.

  • @EMC2Scotia
    @EMC2Scotia Před 12 lety +1

    Interesting the comments by Armstrong about Landis not feeling like he has anything to be sorry for. How times have changed!! Bravo Kimmage, for standing up for the good of the sport.

  • @flybynightrush
    @flybynightrush Před 12 lety +2

    My heart goes out to the guy.

  • @pauluk72
    @pauluk72 Před 12 lety

    Excellent response!

  • @jonwoolhouse3801
    @jonwoolhouse3801 Před 10 lety +7

    All three should have had a custodial sentence , the same as Marion Jones,,,

  • @TrueBlueGirl1
    @TrueBlueGirl1 Před 11 lety +2

    Armstrong dug himself a MUCH bigger hole with that interview and pwned himself royally! Paul Kimmage and David Walsh are LEGENDS.

  • @onlyone23km
    @onlyone23km Před 2 lety +1

    “You’re not worthy of the chair you’re sitting in.”
    And you’re not worthy of any of the shit you won.

  • @MarkQuirke
    @MarkQuirke Před 9 lety +8

    I laugh at this every time I watch it. The cheat got caught......finally! You could see the anger and sheer arrogance in his face!

  • @4637812648
    @4637812648 Před 5 lety +2

    Interesting to watch the reactions of fellow dopers Hincapie, Leipheimer and Basso sitting next to Armstrong.

  • @zachbernst
    @zachbernst Před 11 lety +1

    Oh, the backdrop is perfect! (Amgen is the producer of EPO.)

  • @HassleCat
    @HassleCat Před 11 lety +3

    They were head over heels in love with him, for sure. I like how Armstrong tries to twist Kimmages objections to doping into an attack on cancer victims. What a butthead.

  • @nejamo
    @nejamo Před 4 měsíci

    “You don’t have a patent on cancer” perfect response

  • @br7an
    @br7an Před 15 lety +2

    Kimmage is one of the top European sports writers, multi award winning and usually extremely witty. He wrote a great book about cycling which mentioned doping from is personal perspective.
    He was an Irish champion cyclist as was his father,uncles and brothers. Cycling means a lot to him and he seems to be the only journalist in the world that cares about stopping Doping in cycling.
    People want to hang him for his use of a metaphor rather than listen to what he has to say.

  • @adaptivo3692
    @adaptivo3692 Před rokem

    The level of righteousness is quite unbelievable and I hope history remembers the good guy with integrity and courage long after the hypocrite and deceiver is forgotten.

  • @McAttack233
    @McAttack233 Před 12 lety

    Actually man never thought about it like that, great point!

  • @mccalljeff
    @mccalljeff Před rokem

    George and Levi were just staring off into space lol

  • @jekellhyde
    @jekellhyde Před 14 lety

    It´s easier to forgive than forget
    but it´s hard if ya
    never ever give up!

  • @02cadget
    @02cadget Před 11 lety +1

    Maybe its easy to say now but the thoughtful, sometimes awkward, looks on the faces of Hincapie and Leipheimer when Armstrong is talking are intriguing to say the least

  • @lofi73
    @lofi73 Před 12 lety

    Right on man!.

  • @assman12354
    @assman12354 Před 15 lety

    i'm just curiious is there anywhere on youtube I can see this????

  • @markyboyire
    @markyboyire Před 12 lety +1

    paul my man ,time just shows the real truth that you have spoken all along

  • @drycomplexity
    @drycomplexity Před 13 lety

    Was anybody able to make out what the reporter was saying at the end?

  • @FootballFinn863
    @FootballFinn863 Před 11 lety +1

    Yes he did dope when he was cycling. His book 'a rough ride' is a great sports book and in it he tells of why and how he doped in detail.

  • @SportIrish
    @SportIrish Před 11 lety

    Very appropriately named.

  • @e.t926
    @e.t926 Před 10 měsíci

    Im just watching document called "the armstrong lie" and had to come here to watch this.

  • @dan45454545
    @dan45454545 Před 11 lety

    Paul Kimmage, you saved cycling. Balls of steel

  • @kdo11
    @kdo11 Před 14 lety

    @u368 just by your response i know not to read it. what's the point of reading an article that said Lance tested positifve for EPO when there's no proof that he has?

  • @EM-wd2vg
    @EM-wd2vg Před 3 lety +1

    Love the look on Phil Liggett's face, I believe then he knew then that Kimmage was right, and he was.

  • @schoolofgrowthhacking
    @schoolofgrowthhacking Před 9 lety +2

    Paul, please take on dopers in the animal sport world, horse and dog racing.

  • @lthmptr
    @lthmptr Před 12 lety

    love it great comment

  • @Charlienmeg
    @Charlienmeg Před 11 lety +4

    Hincapie, Leipheimer (both dopers) and every member of the press in that room should bow down and beg Kimmage's forgiveness. He and Walsh (and the savvie people of the sport) knew the truth and I don't doubt there were people in that audience who knew it too but chose to ignore it, all because of this 'idol' called Armstrong.

  • @cloudminder5899
    @cloudminder5899 Před rokem +1

    Perfect example of this horrible man's despicable behaviour

  • @tylerflormann330
    @tylerflormann330 Před 11 lety

    it's so funny how VDV is just rolling his eyes lmao!!

  • @whateveritsnoyes
    @whateveritsnoyes Před 10 lety +3

    maybe not disgust but perhaps guilt. he knew that Paul Kimmage was speaking the truth.

  • @5128bunny
    @5128bunny Před 11 lety

    thanks to Paul Kimmage and David Walsh for their persistence and their courage in exposing the horrible truth about drug cheats,, two great Irish journalist who would not allow themselves to be bullied into silence

  • @jamesegan9352
    @jamesegan9352 Před 12 lety +1

    Sport needs more heroes like Paul Kimmage. He's more of a hero than Lance Armstrong ever will be!

  • @eamonnm111
    @eamonnm111 Před 13 lety

    Who is right now

  • @gingandproud
    @gingandproud Před 15 lety

    I like your comments.

  • @herefordmsv
    @herefordmsv Před 11 lety

    The fact of the matter is that was an era where everyone was doping.

  • @Colddeed
    @Colddeed Před 5 lety

    lol at the guy rolling his eyes @3:00

  • @zachwong7324
    @zachwong7324 Před 10 lety +5

    Haha all the other Americans and riders up there look soooooo uncomfortable like George, Levi, etc.

  • @OhHonestlyDear
    @OhHonestlyDear Před 15 lety

    By the way. the journalist in question is paul kimmage. a former pro cyclist who has ridden the tour de france on 3 occasions as a pro and was a respected team player during the 80's. his book, rough ride is very well worth a read.

  • @mahlstadt
    @mahlstadt Před 11 lety

    "I'm not sure that anyone around the world that has been affected by this disease will forgive you."

  • @alcoyne3333333333333
    @alcoyne3333333333333 Před rokem

    If Paul was a US journalist they would have been a Hollywood blockbuster about him ☘️🇮🇪🇮🇪

  • @muradtalukdar4401
    @muradtalukdar4401 Před 4 lety

    There is a certain irony in realising that AMGEN actually produce EPO on a commercial scale...

  • @ciaran6309
    @ciaran6309 Před 5 lety

    paul kimmage fucking legend

  • @redrum4100
    @redrum4100 Před 11 lety

    Haha. Brilliant!

  • @johnboy8569
    @johnboy8569 Před 12 lety +1

    Wow, Lance Armstrong never ceases to amaze. On the bike fighting diseases and well that was one hell of an interview.

    • @donalowens1114
      @donalowens1114 Před 2 lety +2

      That wasn't an interview. What it was, was classic Armstrong bullying tactics.

  • @PInk77W1
    @PInk77W1 Před rokem +1

    Paul Kimmage is the greatest

  • @carlosdeno
    @carlosdeno Před 11 lety +1

    Another Idol with Clay Feet..!

  • @jonathantaff3007
    @jonathantaff3007 Před 8 lety +1

    The bigger picture is what he did for those suffering from cancer. Maybe he was more motivated to dope to bring in more money for his foundation. Then, so what.
    Lance, in spite of cheating (as many others) you are still an amazing man who has SAVED many lives and put millions of bums on bikes.People who are significantly fitter and healthier, living longer lives for the the loved ones and and and.
    Good on you Lance!!!

    • @stargazerspark4499
      @stargazerspark4499 Před 7 lety +1

      Jonathan Taff maybe next Lance can advocate young athletes to turn away from the doping that in all likelihood contributed to his cancer in the first place.

  • @myroseaccount
    @myroseaccount Před 11 lety

    TOTAL VINDICATION for Paul Kimmage.

  • @AnnesleyPlaceDub70
    @AnnesleyPlaceDub70 Před 11 lety

    Kimmage I meant!

  • @cnott
    @cnott Před 11 lety

    Fair play Paul

  • @migdel1983
    @migdel1983 Před 15 lety

    Yes, spot on there Hayes. Armstrong isn't usually challenged directly. I agree with many others though that Kimmage could have used a less contentious choice of words. But he's also right, Armstrong doesn't have "a patent on cancer"

  • @cullyba
    @cullyba Před 12 lety

    Congrats Paul Kimmage & David Walsh - you never stood down from your convictions - sweet vindication

  • @mrstephenporter
    @mrstephenporter Před 11 lety

    thats because he's standing up. (yep that was a play on words)

  • @grilled15
    @grilled15 Před 14 lety

    1999 - failed corticosteroid test. Same tour - 6 piss sample positive for EPO.

  • @BICKY15
    @BICKY15 Před 12 lety

    Take a bow Paul Kimmage!

  • @Elmarby
    @Elmarby Před 11 lety

    Correction:
    Kimmage 1, Armstrong -7

  • @CodySDivineCreators
    @CodySDivineCreators Před 11 lety

    Why did he start ranting about cancer when the reporter asked about doping?

  • @samsandy9313
    @samsandy9313 Před 10 lety +4

    Vindicated

  • @drdree8396
    @drdree8396 Před 2 lety

    The very least he owes him is an apology

    • @sullivanbiddle9979
      @sullivanbiddle9979 Před 2 lety

      Sociopaths don't apologize so I wouldn't hold my breath if I was Kimmage.

  • @sohoyankee66
    @sohoyankee66 Před 13 lety

    This place is full of experts. How about we let the professionals who have all the facts do the job.

  • @paulwsdwyer
    @paulwsdwyer Před 11 lety

    take a bow Paul Kimmage.

  • @del690
    @del690 Před 11 lety

    Support Kimmage. Make a donation (however small) to his defence fund.

  • @elzorro7of9
    @elzorro7of9 Před 6 měsíci

    Kimmage doped too, am i right or wrong?

  • @Waterbuoyed
    @Waterbuoyed Před 11 lety

    I'd completely missed him too until a comment hearing a comment from, I think, Walsh. He'd apparently 'come out' about the USPS doping when his young son started talking about getting into procycling... and was then vilified in is own country on 'talk radio' etc, (not so much by Lance, himself). When the truth became known, New Zealand to their great credit named him 'Man of the Year' for his whistleblowing.