david walsh is a fucking legend , he took shit for 13 years but never gave up the cause to out lance armstrong , he should be honored for his tireless effort to clean the sport up .
Would like to see David Walsh or somebody else do a critical look at the doping (and other cheating) practiced by East Germany and the other Eastern Bloc countries (including China & North Korea) in the various international athletic competitions (including the Olympics). Maybe this has already been done.
The information that you are asking for is very valuable information, and I don't believe it is published free anywhere or in a book. Yes, Lance was a fine triathlete when he was young and still is. He won a triathlon in San Diego last year too. You have to understand the difference between multi-day events like the TDF vs, single day races and the effects of EPO on each type. EPO is a much greater benefit in long stage races along with blood packing (transfusion of energized stored blood)
In a one-day race, like the national championships 40k TT, EPO would not be much of an advantage, but in a TT, after 20 days of hard racing, EPO would help dramatically. Remember that a 40k TT is only a 45-50 minute event for the pro level cyclist. With proper preparation in training, the body can naturally be topped-up and ready to perform perfectly in an event like that without doping. But the doping allows for the athlete to recover faster from hard training before the event, which helps.
My dad told me years ago about doping in the TDF and how the cyclists were receiving clean blood transfusions, in the same way a methadone user has to give a urine sample obtained from someone only using the drug so they may continue using opiates....
Kinda different. They do blood doping. They get bags of fresh blood and they will literally swap out their blood between races because the fresh blood carries oxygen better and thus allows them to race better. Tdf is multiple days so they're just exhausted by the end
How do you know everyone else was doping? That's a sweeping statement considering there's no proof that "everyone" was doping - whereas the proof about Armstrong is out there. It's also incredibly expensive to dope like he and his team did, most riders wouldn't have the funds to be able to do so. You need millions to carry out that sort of fraud. Even if "everyone" wanted to cheat.
They have already explained exactly how Lance and his teammates were able to beat the tests and come out clean. Apparently, you missed this key piece of information. Maybe they don't broadcast it, to keep everyday cyclists from using the same method, since it really works. Did you ever consider that? Anyway, your answer is 'micro-doses'. For some reason micro-doses of EPO, increased the red blood cell count only slightly on a regular basis and they used blood thinning medicine to mask it.
Europeans always hated that an American won their event, but the truth was they were right after all. I guess if a cricket team won our world series I would be suspicious! (-;
how sad are people blame everyone else he unlike others bullied everyone who dared t say anything and told untruths about them Armstrong believed he was untouchable should have stayed retired
Europeans are not a unit made up with the same kind of people. We are a continent with more than 700 million people from all over the world situated in 50 different countries. It would be stupid to think all people thought the same, just like it would be stupid to generalise the American population. Keep that in mind, will you? As for Lance Armstrong, he would be more respected if he owned up, apologised and got on with his life, although I understand it will be very hard for him.
Ok so they beat the tests with microdosing, can they ever tell us with numbers other than hematocrit levels ,what is the advantage of a doped rider like these guys training all year round on dope and vs a totally clean person.What would the best clean person do on a 40k tt vs the doped guy.What would lance have done clean I know he was a very good triathlete as a teenager, or was he doping as a teenager too.
Walsh, I'm not necessarily a defender per se of Armstrong... But why didnt you plunge into Indurain or. Ullrich or Pantani or Riis or the other major dopers?
I don’t think it’s that he was doping as they all were, more that he was a monster of a human. Harassing, bullying, arrogant yet somehow viewed in the eyes of the public as a hero. So he made himself the number 1 target. Had he just quietly doped and won his 7 TDFs, he might have got away with it.
Some of the Nike's anti-doping ads with Lance Dopestrong: This is my body and I can do whatever I want to it. I can push it, and study it, tweak it, listen to it. Everybody wants to know what I'm on. Also: I'm on my bike, busting my ass six hours a day. What are you on? Me: he asked for it, and got busted. Soulless, ball-less bully trash.
David Millar explains how they take EPO out of season in training to make sure the haematocrit level is below 50 come race day as there is no drug test for detecting EPO. Even Paul Kimmage's book explains how doping controls were dealt with although it is pretty much Pre-EPO
this is bull shit all of them do it y pick on him..its the Europeans that are sick with jealousy that Americans are taking over the sport .....i don't believe in taking drugs and its sad that they do but all of them did that's a fact so in reality he didn't cheat ...
david walsh is a fucking legend , he took shit for 13 years but never gave up the cause to out lance armstrong , he should be honored for his tireless effort to clean the sport up .
David Walsh is a great hero
David Walsh is like the anti-Armstrong. Honest and a nice guy.
Would like to see David Walsh or somebody else do a critical look at the doping (and other cheating) practiced by East Germany and the other Eastern Bloc countries (including China & North Korea) in the various international athletic competitions (including the Olympics). Maybe this has already been done.
The information that you are asking for is very valuable information, and I don't believe it is published free anywhere or in a book. Yes, Lance was a fine triathlete when he was young and still is. He won a triathlon in San Diego last year too. You have to understand the difference between multi-day events like the TDF vs, single day races and the effects of EPO on each type. EPO is a much greater benefit in long stage races along with blood packing (transfusion of energized stored blood)
Lance failed 4 drug tests in 1999 and the Tour as well as UCI looked the other way. Yet they got off Scott free. Why?
Cheers
Money money money money money money ;-)
In a one-day race, like the national championships 40k TT, EPO would not be much of an advantage, but in a TT, after 20 days of hard racing, EPO would help dramatically. Remember that a 40k TT is only a 45-50 minute event for the pro level cyclist. With proper preparation in training, the body can naturally be topped-up and ready to perform perfectly in an event like that without doping. But the doping allows for the athlete to recover faster from hard training before the event, which helps.
you should read Walsh's book, Hamilton's book and David Millar's book. All of those questions are addressed there.
Greg Lemond first three Tours
3rd
2nd
1st.
Lance first three Tours.
DNF
DNF
DNF
Real skill versus what the hell is this.
What about Big Migs 5 should he not be stripped also ?
Good Cyclist
Bad Person
Peace
Shit Cyclist
Bad person
Eternal Wars of Words Between Fans of TDF
The only reason Lance got cancer is because of all the doping he was doing. Blood transfusions and all the other steroids.
Indeed so. If you don't have balls to ride clean better be prepared to sacrifice a ball (and your future).
Considering how widespread doping was, and how few other riders got cancer, I'd say your statement is completely lacking in evidence.
My dad told me years ago about doping in the TDF and how the cyclists were receiving clean blood transfusions, in the same way a methadone user has to give a urine sample obtained from someone only using the drug so they may continue using opiates....
Kinda different. They do blood doping. They get bags of fresh blood and they will literally swap out their blood between races because the fresh blood carries oxygen better and thus allows them to race better. Tdf is multiple days so they're just exhausted by the end
How do you know everyone else was doping? That's a sweeping statement considering there's no proof that "everyone" was doping - whereas the proof about Armstrong is out there. It's also incredibly expensive to dope like he and his team did, most riders wouldn't have the funds to be able to do so. You need millions to carry out that sort of fraud. Even if "everyone" wanted to cheat.
This guy is a real-life hero!
David Walsh is a hero. Betsy Andreu is a hero. Lemond is just the best cyclist ever.
best American, you mean... Merckx is the greatest
Good cyclist, nice guy, but never the best. He did deserve his wins tho.
They have already explained exactly how Lance and his teammates were able to beat the tests and come out clean. Apparently, you missed this key piece of information. Maybe they don't broadcast it, to keep everyday cyclists from using the same method, since it really works. Did you ever consider that? Anyway, your answer is 'micro-doses'. For some reason micro-doses of EPO, increased the red blood cell count only slightly on a regular basis and they used blood thinning medicine to mask it.
You're right. Isn't that ironic. You can see why they were a willing sponsor.
He didn't win it - the record books show otherwise!
Oliver Jones no they don't cock head
He got no wins in any TDF, proven fact. I'm still crossed about apparently not seeing 7 TDF.
Walsh brave for taking on Lance the Dope Bully
Hes a waste of space
good point
Europeans always hated that an American won their event, but the truth was they were right after all. I guess if a cricket team won our world series I would be suspicious! (-;
how sad are people blame everyone else he unlike others bullied everyone who dared t say anything and told untruths about them Armstrong believed he was untouchable should have stayed retired
Europeans are not a unit made up with the same kind of people. We are a continent with more than 700 million people from all over the world situated in 50 different countries. It would be stupid to think all people thought the same, just like it would be stupid to generalise the American population. Keep that in mind, will you? As for Lance Armstrong, he would be more respected if he owned up, apologised and got on with his life, although I understand it will be very hard for him.
Ok so they beat the tests with microdosing, can they ever tell us with numbers other than hematocrit levels ,what is the advantage of a doped rider like these guys training all year round on dope and vs a totally clean person.What would the best clean person do on a 40k tt vs the doped guy.What would lance have done clean I know he was a very good triathlete as a teenager, or was he doping as a teenager too.
i want to see lance cry.
loololol
Walsh, I'm not necessarily a defender per se of Armstrong... But why didnt you plunge into Indurain or. Ullrich or Pantani or Riis or the other major dopers?
I don’t think it’s that he was doping as they all were, more that he was a monster of a human. Harassing, bullying, arrogant yet somehow viewed in the eyes of the public as a hero. So he made himself the number 1 target. Had he just quietly doped and won his 7 TDFs, he might have got away with it.
@@lewis809 yeah..i think ur spot on with that.
Some of the Nike's anti-doping ads with Lance Dopestrong:
This is my body and I can do whatever I want to it. I can push it, and study it, tweak it, listen to it. Everybody wants to know what I'm on.
Also:
I'm on my bike, busting my ass six hours a day. What are you on?
Me: he asked for it, and got busted. Soulless, ball-less bully trash.
9/11 u did it
David Millar explains how they take EPO out of season in training to make sure the haematocrit level is below 50 come race day as there is no drug test for detecting EPO. Even Paul Kimmage's book explains how doping controls were dealt with although it is pretty much Pre-EPO
Ive read the book by Walsh expecting it to be in praise of Lance, lol, but it didnt say how fast a rider can go clean, I would love to know.
Still on this?
Does anybody notice Amgen, a major TDF sponsor makes red blood cell promoting drugs. Stop pretending and grow up
If you can't handle people who want a clean sport, go watch the NFL.
Who gives a shit if lance doped
Millions of us.
oh my GOD, leave the man alone!
No
this is bull shit all of them do it y pick on him..its the Europeans that are sick with jealousy that Americans are taking over the sport .....i don't believe in taking drugs and its sad that they do but all of them did that's a fact so in reality he didn't cheat ...
Harry T Hahahah well done your comment actually made me laugh out loud
Americans haven't won shit in cycling in the last 30 years.
Thank you for killing xyxling.
Thx Lance
Walsh has/had an unhealthy obsession with Armstrong. Armstrong was a doper NOT a serial murderer!!
It was his job.
Lance Armstrong is a serial killer.