Ram Rebel or Toyota Tundra: 5 Things I Like About Each Over the Other
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2022
- In this video I compare the Ram Rebel vs. the Toyota Tundra (TRD Offroad). I will give the 5 things I like on each truck compared to the other.
Which one do I think is better? Which one is better for you?
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I have an 07 Tundra with the 5.7 that I use to tow a 10k travel trailer. Went from the east coast to the keys in Jan, and last week I did a haul through the mountains of NC and VA… Amazing performance from a truck with 200,000 miles. I made some basic upgrades, TRD Sway Bar and Sumo Springs. I cannot see myself driving anything but a Toyota.
can't deny toyota reliability! As for the newest gen on the other hand, i'm not so sure
I can tell you for sure....that Ram Rebel will not make it pass 30k without an issue! lucky it won't leave you stranded after them miles or less!!
@@bigfootswatching9986 I had a 2019 Rebel, 5.7 with 88,000 miles when I traded it in on a '22. Never had an issue and it never let me sit! The only issue was a flat tire!
Great vid. Had a 2017 hemi ram and currently have a 2018 5.7 Trd tundra. Tundra feels like it will last a hundred years. Also biggest plus for the tundra is the roll down rear window!
oh yes, I do miss that full roll down rear window!
I use front and rear dash cam religiously. Unfortunately makes the roll down rear window a deal breaker for me without doing some crazy mod.
“If you’ve been with the channel for a while”
I’ve been here so long I remember the backpacking and Tacoma days. 😂😂🤘🏽🤘🏽
You're a true OG to the channel, Jon! 🍻
I absolutely LOVE my 21 Rebel. Zero issues so far. They can all have their issues. And if you dont have it, get a Sprint Booster for the Rebel. It helps a TON with that little bit of throttle lag it has stock.
Get a carli 2.5 preformance and opt for the HD springs if you carry tent rack ect. Normally
I can literally jump mine now its wild….
I have a 2015 Tundra that I can still fix myself. Less electronics less problems. Although I miss my 2005 2500 Dodge Ram diesel that I sold.
Traded my 19 TRD OR DCLB Tacoma in for a 21 Ram Power Wagon and I’ve been very happy with it. The interior and drive was enough for my wife to Trade her 17 SR5 in for the 22 Ram 1500 Laramie. Having a bigger cab for the kids and a bigger engine has been awesome. It was hard to get rid of the Toyotas but so far the new trucks have been great
that's great to hear! My wife loves the interior space/comfort in the ram over the tundra
I have been looking at the 1500 Ram Rebel. What made you go with the Power Wagon over the Rebel?
Thanks for the info!
@@aneisinger if they did the same package for the rebel as they do for the PW I probably would of gone that route. Factory lift, winch, metal bumpers, electronic sway bar disconnect, full lockers. I did look at the rebel but was pretty set on the PW once I saw it in person. The winch alone made a huge difference. Not having to buy a bumper and winch, wire it all together, all ontop of the cost was nice. Have used the winch many times and I’ve only had the truck for just over half a year. Wife wanted a rebel but with the options that were around us locally the laramie she went with was the best deal for what she wanted
good vid. I have a 2021 tundra trd pro - the lack of cylinder shutoff is really the main/only reason i bought the truck i did. every other 1500 manufacturer is doing it (other than the titan i think?) for gas motors. It's a truck, its going to get bad mpg. I'm ok with (or accepting of i guess) adding things to a brand new truck to turn it into something the way I want it. I'm not ok with cracking open a motor with 0 miles on it to take out cylinder shutoff equipment, slapping it back together and hoping it performs like it was supposed to. I was so, so into getting a rebel until i found out it had that stuff. i hope yours stays trouble free.
worst part about toyotas are the other people who own them. "i have had 3 toyotas, they've each gone 950k miles, and i never change the oil in fact i don't even put gas in them i just put water in the tank and it runs fine, its so strong i tow 16k with my tacoma all the time up hill in the snow, there was an 18 wheeler pulled over with 6 trailers on it but you know i have a toyota so i hooked up my camry and boom pulled it right out no problem, the guy was like 'holy cow how did that happen' well i have this incredible piece of machinery designed by 250k PHD engineers at toyota, nobody's ever seen anything like this and basically there's no cars or trucks that have ever existed in time that hold a candle to this masterpiece of automotive machinery so....." etc.
I like the reliability of the Tundra. I have a 2001 that I bought new. In 22 years the only break was an O2 sensor. It's still running great. Took it from SF to Port Townsend, WA. Then to Mexico border with AZ. Running fine on 2 road trips of 2,000+ miles in the last year. The only thing I hate right now is the MPGs... $$$$ :)
The gas is definitely hurting us. I’m hoping for improvements to prices soon
Remember, SMILE per gallon. Not CRY per gallon..😉
Had a 2019 Ram 1500 Classic. Bought new. Never got stuck anywhere with the rear LSD. In hindsight, never should've sold it. Would have made a great overlanding rig. Really wanted my sports car. Think I traded it with 19k miles during the car shortage. Would still have it if they didn't give me more than I paid in 2018. Great truck. Now I overland in a '12 LR4
I started off with a 2011 Tundra, then a 2016 Ram 1500 Outdoorsman, and now a 2018 Tundra TRD Offroad limited. I absolutely loved the Ram more than either of the others, but it started falling apart at 70k miles. Evap sensor, manifold bolts breaking, tipm was showing signs of failure, and started the hemi tick indicating lifter failure. The Tundra has been a great truck, no doubt it will be more reliable, but there was just something about that Ram.
Thanks for breakdown for both vehicles, well done.
I have had a Ram 3500 w/ Cummins and 6spd since 2007, it has been a very good truck with almost 230k miles. I recently bought a 2022 Ram 1500 with the ecodiesel, basic bighorn model with the off-road package which included skid plates, a slight lift and a rear locker. So far very pleased with it. I have the quad cab and 6.4’ bed, and it is a good fit for me. I knew that it would not have the hauling capacity of my 3500, but my needs have changed. I just completed a 3400mi road trip from IN to WY and back, with 4 days spent driving USFS roads looking for spots to fish, for the entire trip mileage averaged 24.6mpg and the diesel torque beats almost all the stock V8s.
Tundra, no question. You can always add lockers especially since you're probably going to regear the truck anyways to better deal with all that extra weight anyways.
Edit this only applies to last gen tundra, putting that much stress on a twin turbo v6 will kill the reliability. If you dont keep vehicles longer than 5-7 years its probably not an issue but there is no replacement for displacement. V8 for the win.
I had a 2019 rebel with the air ride and it performed very well. Great off road and smooth on road. Ended up switching the the 2500 diesel die to having to haul more than I could comfortably with the Rebel, but I miss it from time to time. Very good truck
I have a fully loaded 2020 Rebel, which performs well even under some weight. I average 17mpg with a heavy foot, and when towing about 5K on a 16ft trailer, I run a good 10-15mph slower and average 14.5mpg. What I love best are all of the compartments for storage. I hate leaving items loose, and with 2 glove boxes, center console, rear floor (ice buckets) storage, under seat storage, and the Ram boxes in the bed, nothing is out of place. Ram wants over $300 for a Ram box Rifle mount. Buy a double rifle mount for an ATV ($35) a 2' piece of threaded rod and 4 washers and 4 nuts. Put the pieces together and they slide into and hold perfectly in place for under $45.
Things will start falling apart on the Dodge brother........trust me.... It will be a money pit !!
As a passenger I would say I like the ram better overall. Good video bud, keep it up! 😘😘
Thanks homie
I have a 2022 Rebel I've had for about a year. No issues at all. Took it on a 3000 mile trip and it was a very comfortable ride. Had it off road a few times and never let me down. The locker does come in handy at times though.
I haven’t had a chance to use the locker yet, but definitely like knowing it’s there just in case 👍
Former 2012 Tundra SR5 4x4 owner, now I have a 22 Rebel. Mine has the regular 5.7 with steel suspension, has the 8.4” screen, and no sunroof. I agree about the comfort and storage. The oven knob shifter is goofy, but having that big console is great for road trips. I’ve been overlanding with my girlfriend and two dogs. It soaks up the highways, and has conquered Alpine Loop trails and Big Bend without any drama. The suspension is still stock for now, and I’m running the same Leitner rack with a tent. Only issues so far at 12k miles is a loose driver mirror glass, and some backup camera glitches that were fixed with an update.
Congrats on the purchase 🤙
Tundra is the best if you want to build your vehicle, IMHO. My buddy has the new rebel and is very limited. I had a ram and at 80k-120k it was issue after issue until I sold it. The transmission left me stranded with my boat on the side of freeway and that was the end of my ram journey. Been very happy with my 2019 platinum tundra!
Great video! I have the 2022 Rebel 3.0 echo diesel and love it! Just returned home from a 6000km trip with my 7000 lb travel trailer, not one issue. The diesel pulled that trailer up and down mountain roads and asked for more. Question, where did you get the organizers/dividers in your centre console? Btw, I was a previous owner of a 2010 Tacoma TRD Sport and loved it. No major issues in the time I owned it, I just had to move on to a full size truck and the Tundra didn’t offer what I wanted at the time. So both are winners in my book. Keep up the great work!
Great video as always brother 👊
Keep killing it!
Thanks brother 🤙👊
Glad to see you do this summary! Thanks!
Thanks Brad 🤙
Dude, thanks for this video. I am debating on which one to buy as of now. I need to tow so I think the Rebel will have to be the one for us.
Nice breakdown and great video!
Thanks Alex!
21 eco diesel here. Carli 2.5preformance + the HD spring kit they offer and 35’s gave me everything my truck needed ride height wise and i think the more i put in the bed the better on top of the 400lbs of rack tent awning and other accessories i have on it. Easily best truck + suspension setup ive ever driven. Still getting 19+ mpgs too
Front and rear ARB air lockers and 5.29 gears installed on my Tundra.
Wunderlist Overland. 👍
I think I influenced you in the beginning! Go ahead and throw on some air lift 1000 HD’s to help with the sag! Like an hour long install! It definitely helped mine 🔥
You were one of many! 🤙 . 1000 HD’s holding up well?
I have a 2010 ram with 5.7 it's been flawless in 230k Miles alot of offroading! Coming from a toyota I definitely like the ram way more.
Great to hear that it’s been holding up well 🤙
Both trucks are awesome, but I love Toyota. Not a fan of the eco system on Ram. Thanks for the video!
Yeah not a fan of eco mode, always overriding that feature
I thought that the Hemi switched to 4cyl in eco mode or idling if your Hemi was equipped with ETorq? I definitely understand about the rear sag with the coils. You might want to check out Carli Suspension that offers a HD Rebel rear coil. I think it makes a huge improvement. Anyways...I really enjoy your videos, keep up the good work!
Another great video!
Get yourself a set of Airlift 1000 helper bags for your rear springs. That will help with the sag. I had a set on my 2015 RAM 1500.
I love my ram. The shifter knob does take about a month to get used to.
Yeah it’s not bad at all
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For the oil change on the RAM, I recommend the two zip lock bag method for the oil filter. Break the filter loose, slip on a 1-gallon zip lock bag, unscrew the filter until it begins to leak. Wait 30-seconds until it stops, slip off that first bag and slip on the 2nd bag and complete the unscrewing of the filter. You won't spill a drop.
I like that idea, currently using one ziploc gallon bag and it was just about enough
Keep making these great videos!
thanks man! I appreciate your support brother
I personally like the space that the gear selector frees up, I had a ram rental and got to try that out one time
it's a big advantage for storage space, imo
Hi Ed, the Eco system changes which set of 4 cylinders is activated during Eco mode. It switches back and forth. Cylinder where equally.
I read otherwise, but thanks for the heads up! I'll look into that 🤙
I was watching your video and i thought to myself "wow that terrain looks really familiar" and i see you also live in Vancouver, WA 🤣
I know the exact road on some of your shots!
See you on larch/silver star mtn!
Hello neighbor! 🤙
I absolutely love my Ram Rebel 2023! And I’m planning on over landing it with my family! I’m a contractor by trade so I have my ram. Boxes on the bed. Hoping someone will develop a rack for it if not I will have to have one fabricated 👍🏼
Was looking for a full size off-road focused truck, and ended up going with a 2020 Titan pro 4X. The lack of aftermarket is a bummer, but the 400hp V8, off-road suspension, underbody protection, off-road screens, 9 speed transmission, and just overall comfort have been awesome so far. I wish more people looked into the titan, especially with the upgrades to the 2020 model. Would definitely help with aftermarket. But overall I have very few complaints.
I think the Nissan Titans (pro 4x) are underrated for sure
I think the titan gets a bad reputation because it's a Nissan.
They’re both good trucks. The Ram is more modern and comfortable, and performs quite well off road. The Toyota is extremely outdated, but will probably give the operator the least trouble.
Glad to see you were able to reuse a lot of your stuff from the Tundra. Seems like Tundra with lockers for the win.
Unfortunately, the Tundra didn't have the lockers. The Ram has rear lockers which I think is great to have just in case.
Great video
thank you 🙏
Great vid!
Thanks Professor!
I knew this video was coming after seeing your post on the gram about changing the oil 😂
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Great channel I recently bought a fully loaded rebel. Any update on its reliability?
My Tundra came off the line 23 years ago this week. Ive owned it for 17 of those years, and its still good to go anywhere.
I believe it! Reliability is there without a doubt
Ram 2500 Power Wagon for me!!
I’ll take the Ram, nice video
I have a 2020 tundra trd off-road 4x4 and had a ram but I like both. Yes, each had its good and bad but overall are great trucks in its own rights.
Uff!! I’m saved.
I only have 6 of those listed.
Love the content and builds. Are you ever concerned about the equipment in your bed getting stolen? I have a 21 Taco and I want to put a fridge in my bed with a lower rack for a future roof top tent. We currently use a ground tent. Thanks for any feedback.
not when parked at home, but sometimes when parked in public. Certain things are very hard to remove from the bed without opening the tailgate (fridge), but any smaller items I would leave there with the understanding that it has a potential for being stolen, so they would be items I would be able to part with.
If you do all your own oil changes I would recommend investing in a fluid extractor. Unless you're dealing with a high mileage engine or are burning a lot of oil you never need to mess with the drain plugs again. Even more useful for vehicles too low to get under without jack stands/ramps.
From my experience with mopars, easiest oil changing out of all of them was both my 78 d100 pickup and my 73 Plymouth valiant, both with the leaning tower of power (slant 6) otherwise my parents 87 Dakota and my 96 ram 1500 both were a pita for the filters for sure, my dad usually relied on me to do oil changes on the Dakota because I was skinny enough at the time to reach up to where the oil filter was on the engine lol. And the 96 well it's a 360 so it has that against it lol. My first gen sequoia is pretty easy to do as the drain plug is right on the bottom and clear of everything so when the plug is removed it just pours downward instead of in a arc lol
just picked up the fumoto valve with a hose, so that should help a bit lol
@@KrokemOutdoors that definitely will help
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The Tow/Haul mode activated will also disable MDS mode. If you activate the Eco light, you can see when MDS is activated, and unless you are cruising with very light throttle, it rarely comes on, certainly not off-roading, light acceleration or even at idle. All the cylinders are still moving when in 4-cylinder mode, just without fuel detonation pressure, the wear difference between cylinders is almost negligible.
potentially negligible, but it's just one additional thing I miss about the Tundra that I did not have to think about. I appreciate your feedback
Ram has had MDS since 2003 and there have been no issues with uneven wear. Countless Hemi’s with over 300k running strong.
I've owned five Toyotas including a Tundra, and three Rams, including the Rebel (2017), which is now my daily driver and for offroading. The Tundra was by far the worst vehicle I've ever owned, and the Tacoma was the best. However I would not trade the Rebel for anything else, and other than a self imposed glitch in the air suspension, it has been flawless. I have over 5,000 miles of offroading in the Rebel (stock suspension) in Utah and Colorado and it performed very well. Plus the average gas mileage is 18.5 mpg (17 city and 20-21 highway). Many other reasons have me preferring the Ram over the Tundra.
I appreciate the feedback! Glad to hear you enjoy the Ram
Wow a hole 5k miles,I do that in a month, my 2017 tundra has been flawless for 5 years not " 5k " and that's on and off road..just saying
@@bradley4294 5k Miles in just offroading hahah. That's alot a wear and tear not just on pavement.
2014 tundra work truck / camper 500,450. Miles .
I bought my rebel due to it has the dial shiftknob. Way more room in the center console and looks cleaner
Picked the ram rebel since I have one and not a Toyota fan lol
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I have a '21 RAM Power Wagon and wanna install a bed rack. What brand/type of bed rack are you using in your RAM? Thanks.
What tires and trim are those? Front bumper? And do you have air suspension?
Hi Edward where did you get the spare tire bumper carrier for the tundra? Also the gas can holder? Thank you.
Hey John. The spare tire carrier if from Rigd. As for the gas can holder on the Ram, it comes with the bumper from Expedition One
Ram looks better in person is so weird. Tundra looks great on pictures but in person it’s ok the ram looks ok in pictures and videos but in person is very badass.
Are you running on 35s with the ram? If so did you re gear and lift?
what phone mount did you use for your toyota tundra?
link please
I have owned both . I would have gone with a Toyota again if they sold 3/4 ton trucks in Canada or the US. Ram left a sour taste for me . 3 ram trucks and 0 for 3 on reliability. My bank account can prove that. Just my experience. Maybe I had 3 lemons. Wish you all the best .
sorry to hear that, I did set aside some reserves just in case, but I really hope that will not be the issue.
The Tundra last longer and has a great reliability. The Ram is good too because it’s more powerful, spacious, and more comfortable. You should try the new Tundra.
Great points! I think I'll give the New Gen Tundra another year or two before a look into it. Let them work out the bugs first
@@KrokemOutdoors Also the 2024 Chevy 2500 ZR2(IFS) with the 6.6L gas V8 with no auto cylinder deactivation mechanisms is a good option. The GM 6.6L gets 1 to 2 mpg better than Ford's 7.3L
@@KrokemOutdoors It does have a lot of bugs at the moment, look out for the future Hurricane I6TT in the RAM, the least powerful one has more hp, lot more torque and marginally better mpg than the 5.7L Hemi.
My biggest issue with the Ram are the mirrors! The seats arent that great either but they do ride very well and have plenty of power. I like the tundra for simplicity, reliability, rear seat room, roll down rear glass and the headlight adjusters 9n the dash so you can dip your headlights whem hauling or towing heavy.
Ive never heard someone complain about the Ram seats... theyre generally considered the best in segment
@@omardevonlittle3817 They're hard and make my tailbone sore over long trips. Especially the back seats. Nissans zero gravity seats are by far the most comfortable seats of any truck ive been in. They aren't as fancy looking but they are so much more comfortable, even on the base models trucks.
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix interesting. Jus did 2200 miles round trips in the Ram deluxe buckets. Zero pain or fatigue
@@omardevonlittle3817 can't say I've taken any long trips in the delux buckets. But the seats in the big horn trucks we have are terrible and all of the other guys agree. To me the cusions are just too hard. I'm 6'1 230lbs so that may have something to do with it. All I know is the seats in my Titan XD are light years more comfortable on long trips than any other trucks ive driven. But those are my experiences. Im sure different body types/sizes may feel differently, but everyone whose ridden in my truck has said they were surprised at how comfortable the seats are.
I will keep my toyota tundra for now my next truck will be a ford f350 tremor edition
I have neber understood console shifters...i mean we have limited space lets put a gear shifter in it to further limit your space. Collum shifter all day long!
Ram (Not dodge) all day. These new lines of trucks are amazing they've built since becoming their own brand, to focus on their innovation in it's industry.
Any chance of upgrading the suspension from the falcon shocks you currently have?
Possibly. Haven’t fully decided yet
@@KrokemOutdoors I’m most likely going to swap out the falcons on mine and get bds fox 3 inch kit.
Off topic but would you get the new tundra pro or limited and why?
I would wait a few years before even considering it, since currently I’ve been hearing about a lot of issues; common with the first year on new gen vehicles
Been watching for awhile and I was looking into the ram rebel right after you purchased it. I unfortunately got right into that price issue but also read about reliability long term with the ram. I opted for the Nissan Titan Pro4x. Not as much aftermarket either, but it has better refinement then a older tundra, leaf springs, and a all time running v8 with information on the screen for off roading. Plus it was cheaper and had a way better factory warranty. But I love the safety and interior space of the Ram. Love the reliability and aftermarket support on the tundra. I’ll be wrapping my truck next after watching your wrap video!
I believe the Nissan Titan is a very underrated, truck. Congrats on the purchase! and good luck on the wrap 👍
I did the same thing. Absolutely love the titan so far, and agreed that it's severely underrated. I'm also bummed about the lack of aftermarket support, but it is what it is.
Where are you reading reliability issues with the rebels? They are solid through and through. I had a guy come into the shop with 130k on his 2019 and he hasn't done anything but a tranny flush, oil change, filters and tires.
I love my TRD Pro Voodoo Blue
that blue is definitely a nice color, can't deny that
No mention about the ram diesel in the rebel? are they crap?
I don’t have personal experience with the Ram diesel , but I’ve been reading mixed reviews about that trim
I loved Toyota but I went with a NA 5.7 l hemi 2020 Ram Rebel over the new Tundra
How is the fit and finish of both trucks? 🤔 My guess the Toyota is better.
they were/are both solid. The only thing I noticed on the Ram was the weather stripping on the rear passenger door stuck out a little further than the others.
I like them both but i am also a tundra owner and for me its the reliability and ruggedness, mine is a 2017 with 150k and I literally did zero to it but spark plugs, truck will outlast me and go forever, i work on plenty of rams and just so many issues at low mileage like header cracks, bolts breaking etc….
hey do you have a link to the cell booster antenna?
This is the one I got: www.weboost.com/products/drive-reach-otr
Get yourself a fluid extractor. Only have to worry about the filter. Never change oil the same way again lol
I swapped out the stock coils on my Ram with ARB Old Man Emu coils and it fixed the sag issue.
Will look into that, thanks!
Curious....did you notice better fuel economy with the Ram Rebel over the Tundra?
Stock before mods, I did
Yay!!
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I’m taking the Frozen 🥶 Tundra
Tundra 👍
Ill take the Tundra everytime. Wish I could find one without a $10k upcharge.
Ask yourself this question Ed, how often do you see a tundra or a toyota in general on the side of the road compared to say the domestic brands? I live in a state where tundras are every where and I've only seen 1 first gen tundra on the side of the road. I've seen tons of chevys rams and ford's on the side of the road. I'm not a yota fan boy by any means but it's just from personal experience and what I see out there. Not hating on other brands I've own all of them and they each have their pros and cons but for me the less tech meangingless tech the better I like it.
I’ll admit I’ve seen trucks of all makes on the side of the road. But then again I don’t know the backstory behind each case. I will agree though that tundras have a reputation for reliability for a reason 👍
Safety technology comfort towing hauling makes this no contest RAM-1500 KING OF TRUCKS 👍👌👏
It is quite impressive, can’t deny that
I'd be curious to know more about the uneven wear between 4 and 8 cylinder operation in the RAM. It's not like the 4 unused pistons stop cycling when not in use. Do they stop getting lubricated? That would surprise me. Is there any long term data on the uneven wear issue?
This was the best explanation I found by a Ram forum member , Remerson228;
“The Multiple Displacement System (MDS) provides cylinder deactivation during steady speed, low acceleration and shallow grade climbing conditions to increase fuel economy. Both four and eight cylinder configurations have even firing intervals providesmooth operation. Two cylinders on each bank are active when the engine is in four-cylinder mode - every other cylinder in the firing order. All of the cylinders that are deactivated have unique hydraulic valve lifters that collapse when deactivated to prevent the valves from opening. Engine oil pressure is used to activate and deactivate the valves. It is delivered through special oil passages drilled into the cylinder block. Solenoid valves control the flow. When activated, pressurized oil pushes a latching pin on each valve lifter, which then becomes a “lost motion” link. Its base follows the camshaft, but its top remains stationary, held in place against the pushrod by light spring pressure but unable to move because of the much higher force of the valve spring.
NOTE: It is critical to use the recommended oil viscosity in 5.7L engines that use MDS.
Deactivation occurs during the compression stroke of each cylinder, after air and fuel enter the cylinder. Ignition then occurs, but the combustion products remain trapped in the cylinder under high pressure, because the valves no longer open. No air enters or leaves. During subsequent piston strokes, this high-pressure gas is repeatedly compressed and expanded like an air spring, but fuel is not injected.”
You can disable it by using the gear - and + buttons on the steering wheel. I almost always lock mine out of 8th gear because I live in the hills which helps a lot!
I like Toyota more not only because of reliability but maintenance friendly, easier to work on as far as mechanical and electrical as well as scan tools and diag/ troubleshooting side of things. Tons of aftermarket parts. The simplicity. Lack of rear locker really sucks on the tundra tho.
Agree with both the maintenance and locker aspects 👍
The ram is just as maintenance friendly with mechanical work. I own both trucks and am a mechanic.
If you had to let one go, which would it be?
Man, that’s a really tough call. With everything considered, I’d probably keep the Ram
@@KrokemOutdoors thanks for that reply.
I got really lucky I guess. I got my similarly equipped 20 rebel for 44500 out the door.
For aftermarket support for the tundra obviously there would be more support since the same truck design has been out on the market for 10+ years lol
A lot of time for aftermarket companies to do some R&D 👍💯
@@KrokemOutdoors somewhat kind of feels it’s taking companies awhile but I assume pandemic had to something with that
@@nabatron21 that’s definitely a huge part of it
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Toyota Tundra
If you put the ram in tow/haul it’ll not deactivate cylinders.
How about 15 years reliability?
I’ve seen Ram/dodge trucks and Toyota trucks that are very old. But we’ll have to find out how long the Rebel lasts
My 2021 rebel it's full time v8.
No eco mode?
@@KrokemOutdoors not at all.
Yeah same.
Coil springs are good for SUVs but trucks need leaf springs.