@@samsmithmotovlogs Hey Sam: I remember you from the Throw Back Thursday man himself, Robert Robb Sr. As it was, I used to live on the west cost not too far from Mr. Robb, but now I'm live here in the mountain's near the Blue Ridge Mountain Parkway of Virginia. I'd just like to say, Good job with Helping out that Guy in the ditch. It kinda of looked like he lost the road after being Blinded by the sun coming out from the shadow of the tree that way. And that can happen to anybody. Hey Ride safe today and ride another day tomorrow.
@@darknitethunder Thanks. I miss old Robb. He helped me get started vlogging and had a Drift Ghost camera like I do. I do love the area around Blue Ridge all the way up to Robinsville and beyond. Take care!
I wouldn't be surprised if fatigue is a factor in some of the crashes on that road. The constant vigilance required for riding around all the curves would wear many people out.
Nice to have smart good people as yourself. I've ridden the TOTD 4 times @ 10 years ago. It is all its cracked up to be but and little more commercial than some of the others. My only really scary time was on a different road and I came @ 2" from a rock wall on the right side of a sharp right hander. Only going about 10 mph but still scary enough. Stay safe out there and thanks again. GOOD JOB!!
Good job of stopping to help. I have ridden the Dragon 10 times and twice while leading I have had 2 different riders go down. No one hurt and no serious bike damage. Neither one captured on video, but the last one was caught by killboy - about 8 frames.
That was nuts. Couldn't believe that short distance between the the two instances. Glad they both got up though. Great job crawling the traffic dude. Tcrs ✊
Folks are running off the road and laying em down constantly the last few years. Lots of internet geniuses with no skills read about the mighty dragon and have to go there. Before the internet the dragon was awesome.
There are quite a few 180 degree curves on this road. I stopped because it was a bad place and a somewhat blind curve with all the vegetation. I would hope someone would do it for me. Thanks and take care.
You really have to pay attention to what you are doing and stay within your capabilities! Rode it several times with the wife on the back of our street glide
Look where you want to go, because your going to go where you look. It is great to see so many stop to help out, and other traffic slow down as the pass. I'm a fire fighter /EMT and we don't see that very often... It's almost like a vehicle crash means extra points of your tag a emergency responder in their bright vest...
Thanks. This is a special road and the EMT response is awesome. Saw a bad crash that brought in 7 emergency vehicles and the helicopter. Saved her. Thanks and take care.
The Dragon is the only road I've ridden where I take a yellow caution flag with me to warn of crashes ahead. Too many riders with more speed than they have skills.
I used to ride the dragon multiple times every summer and on EVERY ride would either witness a bike accident or come up on one with people standing around. Different types of bikes, all skill levels, lots of riders and a road that demands uninterrupted attention, what could go wrong?
@@stephenbustos Since it is a public street and not a race track I disagree with you. As fast as stock bikes are these days their speed is above 90% of the ability of people who buy them. Speed is always a problem to anyone who hits gravel or a paint stripe in full lean and there is both on the street and no "normal" ability of an experience street rider is going to help a combo of that and going too fast I love going fast too, who doesn't, but there is a since of responsibility and respect for other traffic that these clowns don't have. I still say that if you ride the dragon at 3 to 4 times the the speed limit you get what you deserve if you wrap a tree, hit head on or go off the cliff. No different than lane splitting at 100 mph or riding a wheelie in rush hour traffic. There's a time and place for all that but not where most all these videos come from. I've been riding the same bike for 45 years and it and me may be a dinosaur in your eyes but I can still do 150 on my old hopped up KZ but I refuse to do it with on coming traffic, through blind corners or amid 20 other bikers. That's why I'm old enough to say that.
@@stephenbustos I don't know what video you watched but the second accident shows a bike go wide on a curve that wasn't all that bad and low sided after going onto the berm. I understand why he went wide, you don't.
It can get pretty busy on the weekends but we have found a Tuesday or Wednesday to be pretty calm. There will always be fast movers but it's not really a problem. Thanks and take care!
Not a biker, but went out there today in my focus st for the 1st time. Had a lot of fun, kept a quick pace and didn't have any problems. Definitely coming back for some better photos.
A couple of bruised egos and some bent pride, but you made sure nothing worse was going to happen. I salute you for that mate ! I sure would love to ride that dragon one day !
Ride it slowly a few times until you get familiar with the turns and road surface. Some turns are tougher than others but remember it is a public road and not a race track.
Been going to the Gap for 19 years now. I once heard that the record for the number of wrecks in one day was 25. That was many many years ago. Not sure if it's been broken. lol
Was I ever young, full of Vim and Vigor, foolish, stupid, full of myself, indestructible? Yea, I was. Learned from a lot of Oh Shits too. Amazingly I lived, in my 70s now, still ride, but now I am not is such a hurry, slowed down and enjoy the ride.
That is a heck of a road to ride on, but a guy needs to be careful, Thanks for sharing and great capture of the guy going down on the road. Thanks again for sharing and have a blessed week my friend.
That was quite a convoy coming in the other direction with the touring couple with the trailer at the head. I think maybe they should have let people pass.
Gotta say, the Dragon was always on my list of places I wanted to ride. After seeing quite a few videos on riding the Dragon, I think I'll pass. I have no interest in being taken out by some Rossi wannabe.
Thanks. We have ridden it many times and it is generally pretty safe. We go mid week when most of the riders are old and retired like us. The fast guys are usually at work. Take care!
Glad you moved up the curve so they could see you before they entered it. where you started could have surprised another rider and caused another incident.
There is a large portion of riders out there that don't understand counter-steerring. They think they are taking the bike, some how. It works till they get in trouble then they start steering and making the situation worse. There's many other reasons but this is a problem. Later
Not understanding countersteering is one of about 100 basic riding skills that one should have mastered before being on tough mountain roads. Pretty easy to see who is gonna fall next. And if some guy has some damage on his bike, he will be dropping it again.
I hope not. These two weren't hurt too badly and rode away. There is a website that published deaths on the dragon. There was one last week. It is easy to ride above your ability there. Thanks and take care.
Yeah cause at the track no idiots ever pass you on the inside or lowside into you. Ever wonder why most tracks are located away from any city? Cause without a newspaper or TV station to keep up with your fatalities, nobody knows.
Never good when someone goes down, but based on my view, he looked like he went down at a slower speed, the way he dropped and tumbled....probably focused his eyes right into the ditch and he was sucked in by Medusilla. Look past the curve and your eyes will guide you through!!!! Another great video Sam-I-am
Been on the Dragon seven times with my buddies. Before I rode it for the first time, the best advice that they gave me was to always look where you want the bike to go and it will go there.
BACK in TN, wife REFUSES to live on our paid for 38 acres in rural MS.......................STILL stay away from the dragon, thinking about opening a t-shirt stand to sell Team Squid shirts up there
This HWY has speed limit 30m/h. This is 48 km/h+20=68 or 50 miles per hour. Too slow for me. Also a lot of cops on the road and speed traps. I don't think this road worth to ride there.
Biggest danger, folks that fall or ride with any part of their vehicle over the center lines. Slow or fast, when you cause a crash you are the biggest danger.
Why are you sitting in the middle of the road holding up traffic instead of pulling over to the right what a nightmare another accident about ready to happen
Just watching CZcams, I've seen some shocking riding on that road. Still as long as nobody's hurt and the lesson is learnt all is good. Good on ya for helping out Pop :)
@@samsmithmotovlogs It’s really not hard to ride if you just have some fundamental riding skills, particularly trail braking. Sadly, most don’t which is why so many people go off the road just coming out of the gas station. Also, there are so many good roads in that area that are far less crowded. Weekdays aren’t bad, but the weekend is skip it. Even taking 129 all the way down is beautiful and empty and you can pick up the Cherohala Skyway and take it back.
man those curves must be real tight and off canter to drop two bikes that close thanks for helping out Sam that is what we should do help each other out.
Those curves are not severe at all. I regularly ride 90 degree curves going WAY faster and 180 degree curves as well, although not as fast as the 90's. These guys just don't have any cornering skills.
@@samsmithmotovlogs Most... specialy HD owners. On every mix ride, when there is a HD, all plus 100ci, behind me, they leave a gap in corners whyle i ride darksided VN 900's with floorboards and forward controls. Even had a Diavel behind me that could not follow in corners. Imagen how low his skills are. 🫣😭😭🫣 Start on a light bike and look less funny than ride a big bike with no skills at all. HD jackets and boots don't hide rookie skills and duckwalking. 🤪😜🤣
Thanks. It can be. Too many people try to race through it and can't make the turns. It has lots of switch backs and 180's. I usually run it in first and second gear.
Smoke 1 it’s a wild ride but I figure I survived when I rode the dragon and I had only been riding 6 months ... you wreck if you aren’t careful or someone else isn’t careful.
Love the road, but would never set foot on it again as long as others were coming the other way. About half driving or riding above their skill level. Never mind the G..D... trucks!
Thanks. There sure is a mix of drivers/riders there. We see the aftermath of a wreck almost every time. Wednesdays have been our best days to ride there. Mostly old guys like me on cruisers. Thanks and take care.
Ha ha! Thanks. I have ridden this road maybe 10 times now and that was the first time I saw 2 that close together and one right in front of me. take care.
The Dragon will eat your ass up if you do not respect the conditions of the road. I was riding this highway in 1982 before it got popular today as it's name today. We had to do the same thing to warn people on a bad accident another road.
I have ridden it on our Spyder and on my VStar and there are some corners that just surprise the hell out of you. It's hard to convey how unless you have ridden it yourself. It's good that I am as slow as I am. :-) Thanks and take care.
Wow! Glad you were thoughtful enough to direct traffic, it could have gotten worse even still. I watch videos of guys riding that road and I have to say, I'm glad they aren't out here riding my mountain. It gets bad enough here, but it really seems like riders think of that road as there personal track day. Stay safe, Sam B-)
Thanks. On the weekends all the sport bike guys come out to run it. We like to go up on Wednesdays. Most of the riders there then are old grey haired cruiser riders like me. :-) The first Wednesday we went there my wife said: "I feel right at home. They all look like my peeps." :-) Take care.
sam smith partially true.. the local sport guys go in the early morning and late evenings. Weekends are sport guys who are tourist and try running the roads on the busiest days so people get hurt
Ha ha! This was on a Sunday and one of the busiest days. We usually go on a weekday when most of the fast guys are at work. It is a fun road even when you take it slow like I did. Thanks and take care.
I have zero sympathy for most of these knuckleheads. There is a principal in business that says people rise in their company until they reach their levels of incompetence. Same applies to a lot of riders. Skill level does not match the road. I rode the Dragon once and for me it was not a lot of fun. The Cherohala Pkwy was a LOT more interesting. I got the Dragon out of my system quickly; way too easy to dump your bike if you go too fast. Youse takes youse chances
Major props and respect for sticking around and helping out.
Thanks.
Flatlanders never seen a road like this. After a few miles it's hypnotic and that's when you fail to see the danger.
Thanks. That is so true. You establish a rhythm and then hit that one corner that is tighter than you expected. It can ruin your whole day. Take care.
@@samsmithmotovlogs that's consistent with mountain roads
High performance bikes...low performance riders.
True that! Thanks and take care.
@@samsmithmotovlogs Hey Sam: I remember you from the Throw Back Thursday man himself, Robert Robb Sr. As it was, I used to live on the west cost not too far from Mr. Robb, but now I'm live here in the mountain's near the Blue Ridge Mountain Parkway of Virginia. I'd just like to say, Good job with Helping out that Guy in the ditch. It kinda of looked like he lost the road after being Blinded by the sun coming out from the shadow of the tree that way. And that can happen to anybody.
Hey Ride safe today and ride another day tomorrow.
@@darknitethunder Thanks. I miss old Robb. He helped me get started vlogging and had a Drift Ghost camera like I do. I do love the area around Blue Ridge all the way up to Robinsville and beyond. Take care!
Ain't that the truth.
Plenty of low performance bikes crashing on the dragon. Low skill is the primary crash reason, bikes performance not so much
The Dragon -- a series of turns where amateur riders think they can road race and then crash or get speeding tickets.
They don't call it the Dragon's tail for nothing! Thanks and take care.
I wouldn't be surprised if fatigue is a factor in some of the crashes on that road. The constant vigilance required for riding around all the curves would wear many people out.
Sometimes about halfway through you start thinking " okay enough with the turns already".
You could be right. Those turns are severe.
1-Shot slinger plenty of spots to pull off, drink some water (if you take some with you), and spectate. Probably my second favorite thing to do there.
Nice to have smart good people as yourself. I've ridden the TOTD 4 times @ 10 years ago. It is all its cracked up to be but and little more commercial than some of the others. My only really scary time was on a different road and I came @ 2" from a rock wall on the right side of a sharp right hander. Only going about 10 mph but still scary enough. Stay safe out there and thanks again. GOOD JOB!!
Thanks. My old cruiser is fun on the Dragon but I don't push it. I was just glad these two guys were mostly unharmed. Take care.
Good job of stopping to help. I have ridden the Dragon 10 times and twice while leading I have had 2 different riders go down. No one hurt and no serious bike damage. Neither one captured on video, but the last one was caught by killboy - about 8 frames.
Thanks. I was lucky to get these guys. Having your wreck captured by Killboy would be awesome! Thanks and take care.
That was nuts. Couldn't believe that short distance between the the two instances. Glad they both got up though. Great job crawling the traffic dude.
Tcrs ✊
Ha ha! Thanks. I couldn't believe it either. Take care.
Folks are running off the road and laying em down constantly the last few years. Lots of internet geniuses with no skills read about the mighty dragon and have to go there. Before the internet the dragon was awesome.
Looks like a terribly dangerous hairpin curve there!
Thank you for caring stopping and helping 🙏🏻
There are quite a few 180 degree curves on this road. I stopped because it was a bad place and a somewhat blind curve with all the vegetation. I would hope someone would do it for me. Thanks and take care.
For years, the wife has BEGGED me to quit calling those riders " idiots," so I've have tamed it down to "organ donors"
Good idea.
glad everyone seems ok. Nice of you to help out. Ride safe and have a great day.
Thanks. Just bruises and awesome stories I think. Take care.
That's a good biker. Always helpful, a salute to you my friend.
Thanks.
Jeez, even my road to work in the morning isn't this busy!!!
It's not bad during the week. Wednesdays are pretty quiet.
After about 30 minutes of twist and turns I’m ready for the expressway. But that’s just me.
I like a mix of both myself! Thanks and take care.
You really have to pay attention to what you are doing and stay within your capabilities! Rode it several times with the wife on the back of our street glide
That's so true. I am afraid some riders push beyond their capabilities. It is a very nice ride. Take care.
Look where you want to go, because your going to go where you look.
It is great to see so many stop to help out, and other traffic slow down as the pass. I'm a fire fighter /EMT and we don't see that very often... It's almost like a vehicle crash means extra points of your tag a emergency responder in their bright vest...
Thanks. This is a special road and the EMT response is awesome. Saw a bad crash that brought in 7 emergency vehicles and the helicopter. Saved her. Thanks and take care.
Legend says the guy hiding behind the tres was sweeping dirt on the road, then film the squids as they went down.tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk....
Ouch. Not needed on most days. Take care.
Hey friend, free to use? Full credits given and will send you the link as soon as I use it.
Yes indeed. Take all you want.
Nice of you to help control the traffic. Most helpful.
Thanks. I was going back to help but his buddies showed up. Take care.
sam smith Saw that.
1:27 I guess that’s a “no”
I believe you're right. Thanks and take care.
If I seen that many wrecks in such a little time with the very type of vehicle, I would take it as a hint and go home quickly!
I have ridden this road for years now and this was an unusually crashy day. If you ride within limits it is safe and scenic. Thanks and take care.
The Dragon is the only road I've ridden where I take a yellow caution flag with me to warn of crashes ahead. Too many riders with more speed than they have skills.
Good idea.
I live at Santeetlah and on pretty weekends the medivac helicopters are flying back and forth over my house almost constantly.
I used to ride the dragon multiple times every summer and on EVERY ride would either witness a bike accident or come up on one with people standing around. Different types of bikes, all skill levels, lots of riders and a road that demands uninterrupted attention, what could go wrong?
What indeed! Thanks and take care!
"This day extracts a heavy toll." Thanos would be impressed...
Someone has died on every mile of the Dragon. This day was a mild one. Thanks and take care.
The helmet swing around 2.06 was brilliant
I was sure he would throw it.
Hey bro, may I use this video in my next moto edit? Credited of course (watermark and link to your channel).
Yes. Be my guest.
@@samsmithmotovlogs Thank you!
You don't have to race the dragon to enjoy it. Get what you deserve when you ride beyond your skill level or above the speed limit.
Thanks. I agree that far too many people think riding at the limit is the only way to enjoy the Dragon. Take care.
Speed isn't the issue, skill is.
@@stephenbustos Since it is a public street and not a race track I disagree with you. As fast as stock bikes are these days their speed is above 90% of the ability of people who buy them. Speed is always a problem to anyone who hits gravel or a paint stripe in full lean and there is both on the street and no "normal" ability of an experience street rider is going to help a combo of that and going too fast I love going fast too, who doesn't, but there is a since of responsibility and respect for other traffic that these clowns don't have. I still say that if you ride the dragon at 3 to 4 times the the speed limit you get what you deserve if you wrap a tree, hit head on or go off the cliff. No different than lane splitting at 100 mph or riding a wheelie in rush hour traffic. There's a time and place for all that but not where most all these videos come from. I've been riding the same bike for 45 years and it and me may be a dinosaur in your eyes but I can still do 150 on my old hopped up KZ but I refuse to do it with on coming traffic, through blind corners or amid 20 other bikers. That's why I'm old enough to say that.
@@TheKawasakikid1 Nothing you said applies here. These guys weren't going all that fast. Their skill was the problem in this case, not speed.
@@stephenbustos I don't know what video you watched but the second accident shows a bike go wide on a curve that wasn't all that bad and low sided after going onto the berm. I understand why he went wide, you don't.
This looks like an awesome road if you like tons of traffic, bad riders, and stopping every mile.
It can get pretty busy on the weekends but we have found a Tuesday or Wednesday to be pretty calm. There will always be fast movers but it's not really a problem. Thanks and take care!
All you need to see why you avoid that road between Memorial Day and Labor Day and then only visit late Sunday or weekdays.
We have had out best luck Tue thru Thu. Thanks and take care.
Not a biker, but went out there today in my focus st for the 1st time. Had a lot of fun, kept a quick pace and didn't have any problems. Definitely coming back for some better photos.
It can b a lot of fun.
The ride up to the Dragon was enuff to convince me to skip it... KNOW your RIDE! Stay alive!
Yes indeed. Ride your own ride! Thanks and take care.
The Tail is what you make of it. If you ride you ride your fine.
Hey man, do you authorize me to use your
video in one of my editions? I leave the name
and link in the description. Thank you for your
attention
Sure. It would be my pleasure! Thanks and take care.
A couple of bruised egos and some bent pride, but you made sure nothing worse was going to happen. I salute you for that mate ! I sure would love to ride that dragon one day !
Thanks. It is really something to ride. The camera does not do it justice. Take care.
BEEN RIDING THAT ROAD SINCE 1982 .....THE CRAZYS ARE STILL THERE...!
They seem especially nutty on the weekends. Take care.
Every single road in west Virginia?
Hey mate. I was wondering if I could get your approval to use your clip in my yt shorts and compilation video. Thank you in advance bro!
Sure thing! Be my guest.
I've never been on it. In all seriousness, what's the key?
Ride it slowly a few times until you get familiar with the turns and road surface. Some turns are tougher than others but remember it is a public road and not a race track.
I'm sure that's all too common on that stretch of road. It's always good that no one was hurt. Be safe bro.
Thanks. Based on the emergency vehicle response time I think it does happen a lot. Take care.
Same, just wanted to say that you are an outstanding person!
Thanks. Just trying to help out. Take care!
Not exactly Mulholland Drive is it
Haha! No it's not. Thanks and take care.
Been going to the Gap for 19 years now. I once heard that the record for the number of wrecks in one day was 25. That was many many years ago. Not sure if it's been broken. lol
Thanks. I sure hope not. Take care.
The time record was 7:30 for the entire 11 miles..........before it hit the interweb and got full of squids and baggers
@@pinslayer4579 the sport bikes are what makes it unsafe. Tools….
Was I ever young, full of Vim and Vigor, foolish, stupid, full of myself, indestructible? Yea, I was. Learned from a lot of Oh Shits too. Amazingly I lived, in my 70s now, still ride, but now I am not is such a hurry, slowed down and enjoy the ride.
We survived to ride again. It doesn't get any better than that. Thanks and take care.
Beautiful help‼️
What bike are you riding? Looks like a guzzi 1400cc
2008 Yamaha V Star 1300 touring. Thanks for asking. I do love Guzzi's but I've never owned one.
@@samsmithmotovlogs guzzis are awesome bikes, I own a 2008 Nevada 750 just took it up the dragon for my first time yesterday
@@chrishall513 Will do thanks!
That is a heck of a road to ride on, but a guy needs to be careful, Thanks for sharing and great capture of the guy going down on the road.
Thanks again for sharing and have a blessed week my friend.
Thanks. The blind, decreasing radius turns can catch you out if you aren't paying attention. I think that's what happened to him. Take care.
That was quite a convoy coming in the other direction with the touring couple with the trailer at the head. I think maybe they should have let people pass.
I agree. Sometimes it can be hard to find a pull off when you need one. I usually get passed a few times by the fast movers. Old and slow.
Amazing the number of people who ride beyond their skill level.
This is not a road to find out where your limits are.
Gotta say, the Dragon was always on my list of places I wanted to ride. After seeing quite a few videos on riding the Dragon, I think I'll pass. I have no interest in being taken out by some Rossi wannabe.
Thanks. We have ridden it many times and it is generally pretty safe. We go mid week when most of the riders are old and retired like us. The fast guys are usually at work. Take care!
It's not always like this especially if you go through the week
Never on weekends.
During the week, yep!
Lotsa great rides in the area!!!
Hey Sam, is it all good to use this clip in one of my videos? You will be full credited in the clip and in the description. Thanks
Sure thing. Enjoy.
@@samsmithmotovlogs Thanks!
Glad you moved up the curve so they could see you before they entered it. where you started could have surprised another rider and caused another incident.
Thanks. Yes I wasn't sure if I could slow them down at first.
The more TOTD vids I watch the less I want to ride this road.
It is an amazing ride if you take your time.
Hey Sam may I feature this? It'll be credited and linked back to your channel
Sure thing. Be my guest.
Thanks man
There is a large portion of riders out there that don't understand counter-steerring. They think they are taking the bike, some how. It works till they get in trouble then they start steering and making the situation worse. There's many other reasons but this is a problem. Later
Thanks. I agree. Take care.
Not understanding countersteering is one of about 100 basic riding skills that one should have mastered before being on tough mountain roads. Pretty easy to see who is gonna fall next. And if some guy has some damage on his bike, he will be dropping it again.
Amazing how people crash their bikes on that road. Wonder if it's the same ones crashing every weekend.
I hope not. These two weren't hurt too badly and rode away. There is a website that published deaths on the dragon. There was one last week. It is easy to ride above your ability there. Thanks and take care.
I'd rather go to the track than deal with all this mess
It's not always this bad. Come out on a Wednesday and it's mostly old guys like me on cruisers. SLOW, old guys on cruisers. :-) Thanks and take care.
Yeah cause at the track no idiots ever pass you on the inside or lowside into you. Ever wonder why most tracks are located away from any city? Cause without a newspaper or TV station to keep up with your fatalities, nobody knows.
With all the curvy roads around why even go their?
I think some see it as a challenge. I enjoy riding it but then I'm slow. Thanks and take care.
TOD has very exacting tolerances, & if you out-drive tour skills, it'll call your bluff with impunity.
It is a road I would love to ride when I come over to the states, abet gently 😊well done Sam 👍
Thanks. You would have no trouble riding it safely. I hope you get to one day. Take care.
Never good when someone goes down, but based on my view, he looked like he went down at a slower speed, the way he dropped and tumbled....probably focused his eyes right into the ditch and he was sucked in by Medusilla. Look past the curve and your eyes will guide you through!!!! Another great video Sam-I-am
Thanks. I think he lost concentration for just a second and panicked. It was in a slow part of the road. Take care.
You're a good man, Sam Smith!
Ha ha! Thanks. Right place at the right time. Take care.
Dame another one ?
They seem to happen quite a bit. Take care.
Been on the Dragon seven times with my buddies. Before I rode it for the first time, the best advice that they gave me was to always look where you want the bike to go and it will go there.
That is always good advice. Thanks and take care.
Never got to ride there
It is a fun road during the week.
It's not a race to see who's the fastest, or the grave can come sooner than later
So true. Thanks and take care.
Bikes used to be ridden by BIKERS but now PEOPLE are trying to ride them too , with inevitable results.
It is easy to ride over your head when you don't have much riding experience. Thanks and take care.
BACK in TN, wife REFUSES to live on our paid for 38 acres in rural MS.......................STILL stay away from the dragon, thinking about opening a t-shirt stand to sell Team Squid shirts up there
I'm sure you would do well. The stores there do a booming business.
Way to help a man down mate.... Stay blessed
Thanks. That is a blind corner and I didn't want anyone to run into them. Take care!
I hope both those bikes in the beginning were put out of commission. If you can’t be smart you better be tough.
Neither one looked like it was damaged too badly. The riders seemed ok too.
This HWY has speed limit 30m/h. This is 48 km/h+20=68 or 50 miles per hour. Too slow for me. Also a lot of cops on the road and speed traps. I don't think this road worth to ride there.
The area this road is in is full of beautiful roads. I think you would like them. Take care!
The biggest danger on the dragon, squids.
Thanks. There sure are a lot of them there on the weekends. Take care.
Biggest danger, folks that fall or ride with any part of their vehicle over the center lines. Slow or fast, when you cause a crash you are the biggest danger.
Usually at lease 2 wrecks a day there
I was lucky to catch these two.
its not a racetrack ppl.
True that. Many ride with a bit too much exuberance. 😁
Way too many people on that road to enjoy it.
Try a Tuesday or Wednesday when school is in session. It's not bad at all then.
@@samsmithmotovlogs Appreciate the advice. Thank you sir.
Why are you sitting in the middle of the road holding up traffic instead of pulling over to the right what a nightmare another accident about ready to happen
Thanks for the advice. I parked off the road and the area I was standing was a paved pull off for overtaking. Thanks for your interest.
Mulholland Drive is a great place for some fast riding.
Just watching CZcams, I've seen some shocking riding on that road. Still as long as nobody's hurt and the lesson is learnt all is good. Good on ya for helping out Pop :)
Ha ha! Thanks son. You know me always jumping at the chance to stop traffic. :-)
Rider skills are so low in the US it’s hard to fathom.
Some people should probably not ride this road.
@@samsmithmotovlogs It’s really not hard to ride if you just have some fundamental riding skills, particularly trail braking. Sadly, most don’t which is why so many people go off the road just coming out of the gas station. Also, there are so many good roads in that area that are far less crowded. Weekdays aren’t bad, but the weekend is skip it. Even taking 129 all the way down is beautiful and empty and you can pick up the Cherohala Skyway and take it back.
i see lots of people talking crap as if they hopped on a bike and were immediately experienced. you gotta learn somehow.
That is so true. The Dragon is not the place to learn. Take care.
Would hate to be a sheriff in that town
They have an amazing response time if you have an accident. One time we saw seven cars at one accident site. Take care.
@@samsmithmotovlogs seriously?! Wow. Stay safe!
Looks like the second guy was afraid to lean it. You look at the ditch you go in the ditch
I think that's exactly what he did. Good call!
man those curves must be real tight and off canter to drop two bikes that close thanks for helping out Sam that is what we should do help each other out.
Thanks. The turns are very low speed and most are 180 degree switchbacks. You can ride them safely but you have to really pay attention. Take care.
Those curves are not severe at all. I regularly ride 90 degree curves going WAY faster and 180 degree curves as well, although not as fast as the 90's. These guys just don't have any cornering skills.
been on it many times. never wrecked but seen many. Diligence, people
Some of the curves are deceivingly tight and unexpected.
Sunny sunday riders. Like to pose on something they can't handle.
A lot of newbies ride above their head there, once.
@@samsmithmotovlogs Most... specialy HD owners. On every mix ride, when there is a HD, all plus 100ci, behind me, they leave a gap in corners whyle i ride darksided VN 900's with floorboards and forward controls. Even had a Diavel behind me that could not follow in corners. Imagen how low his skills are. 🫣😭😭🫣
Start on a light bike and look less funny than ride a big bike with no skills at all. HD jackets and boots don't hide rookie skills and duckwalking. 🤪😜🤣
129 is no joke. No room for error. Be careful!
Agreed! Thanks and take care!
looks like a fun stretch right there! Good thing they're ok! Safe travels friend!
Thanks. This was the first time for me on my V-Star and I really enjoyed it. I just hated to see those guys crash. Take care.
Wow, two crashes on the same road! Is it a dangerous trail?
Thanks. It can be. Too many people try to race through it and can't make the turns. It has lots of switch backs and 180's. I usually run it in first and second gear.
It was on an episode of Hell roads, lol. Mainly because big rigs go down it and can't safely make the turns
I saw that one. They have lots of signage warming any truck over 30' not to go that way.
It is just one curve after another. Not much room for error .
Smoke 1 it’s a wild ride but I figure I survived when I rode the dragon and I had only been riding 6 months ... you wreck if you aren’t careful or someone else isn’t careful.
Love the road, but would never set foot on it again as long as others were coming the other way. About half driving or riding above their skill level. Never mind the G..D... trucks!
Thanks. There sure is a mix of drivers/riders there. We see the aftermath of a wreck almost every time. Wednesdays have been our best days to ride there. Mostly old guys like me on cruisers. Thanks and take care.
Trucks have been banned you can’t even turn on that road in a semi any more!
"you okay?
*shrieks*
Oh yeah! :-D
Alrighty we did our good dead for the day.....lmfao I say the same thing....
Thanks. It was the least I could do.
Scary that so many go down, but good that so many are present to assist!
Yes it is. I counted 7 emergency vehicles responding to a bad crash once before. Thanks and take care.
You can't spell Samaritan without Sam. Man that's nuts he went down right in front of you.
Ha ha! Thanks. I have ridden this road maybe 10 times now and that was the first time I saw 2 that close together and one right in front of me. take care.
Way too much traffic on this road.
Weekdays are not too bad. Take care.
The Dragon will eat your ass up if you do not respect the conditions of the road. I was riding this highway in 1982 before it got popular today as it's name today. We had to do the same thing to warn people on a bad accident another road.
I have ridden it on our Spyder and on my VStar and there are some corners that just surprise the hell out of you. It's hard to convey how unless you have ridden it yourself. It's good that I am as slow as I am. :-) Thanks and take care.
Wow! Glad you were thoughtful enough to direct traffic, it could have gotten worse even still.
I watch videos of guys riding that road and I have to say, I'm glad they aren't out here riding my mountain. It gets bad enough here, but it really seems like riders think of that road as there personal track day.
Stay safe, Sam B-)
Thanks. On the weekends all the sport bike guys come out to run it. We like to go up on Wednesdays. Most of the riders there then are old grey haired cruiser riders like me. :-) The first Wednesday we went there my wife said: "I feel right at home. They all look like my peeps." :-) Take care.
sam smith partially true.. the local sport guys go in the early morning and late evenings. Weekends are sport guys who are tourist and try running the roads on the busiest days so people get hurt
Thanks for the info. I have only been there on a Sunday and Wednesdays around lunch time.
Great job Sam, glad the riders are ok.
Thanks. I think their pride is what got hurt. Take care.
And for the anti drug MADD or RADD mother's kids, hyper speed bikes.
Holy!! That is crazy...one right after another. It looks like that road gets a lot of traffic. I would like to think I would be a slooow poke.
Ha ha! This was on a Sunday and one of the busiest days. We usually go on a weekday when most of the fast guys are at work. It is a fun road even when you take it slow like I did. Thanks and take care.
I have zero sympathy for most of these knuckleheads. There is a principal in business that says people rise in their company until they reach their levels of incompetence. Same applies to a lot of riders. Skill level does not match the road. I rode the Dragon once and for me it was not a lot of fun. The Cherohala Pkwy was a LOT more interesting. I got the Dragon out of my system quickly; way too easy to dump your bike if you go too fast. Youse takes youse chances
I agree. If you ride above your skill level you will eventually pay the price. I like to ride the Skyway too. Thanks.
LMAO...I heard the locals throw oil out and ride around taping crashes
Get caught doing that.. Attempted murder.. among other things
HO LEE FOOK that’s bullshit I’m a local and never heard anyone ever doing that
Two down in two minutes! That's some road.
Ha ha! That was a first for me too. Thanks and take care.
Because their fixed on what they don’t want to hit and your sure to hit it every time