I enjoyed the commentary. I enjoyed how thrilled you were. I'm not sure if anyone spoke to you that day, but crossing the mustard is just about the worst thing to do up there..(Insert but I could see ahead comments). David was able to keep his camaros peach between the lines for the most part. A bike shouldn't be across the lanes. I'd hate to see you lose a head up there, which happens more than you'd think.
@@kawasakirrpilot I've been called chucky before. I am not local, but I'm up there almost every weekend. Yellow MKV supra. People call others all kinds of names tbh. The fast persons usually hang out at night vs day time.
Your previous crash and blaming the "throttle sticking" hasn't taught you anything yet? Don't ride like a total squid. Other people are on this road too, it's not your personal track. Go do a track day where it's safer. Not trying to roast you, but if you listen, you'll be thankful that you did one day vs laying in a ditch with the lower half of your body laying 30 feet away.
MIKE!!! That was the most EPIC run I have had on the Dragon EVER!!! I will forever share this video and so happy we all made it to the end safely!!! A little background on my 2021 #ZL1 #1LE A10 Camaro is that it is 100% OEM with the exception of the @HawkPerformance DTC60 brake pads, Rotofab intake, Gates Green SC belt and ATI billet crank pulley and stock-diameter blower pulley. The tires I was running are stock sized 305 30/19 & 325 30 19 Michelin Sport Cup 4S, not the 100TW Goodyear Supercar 3R tires the car comes stock with and what I track at Road Atlanta, Barber or VIR. Here is the link to the rear GoPro until it overheated! czcams.com/video/j_MFOyYjK98/video.html
My name is the same on Instagram check me out so you can message me your number we will definitely hit you up next time we go it was an amazing ride it was almost all I could do to keep up my friends are way faster than me lol
Practice being smoother and holding your line speed will come the smoother you are on the throttle and brakes. You where way out position a lot and there increase risk. Remember ride your ride be safe and speed will come
@@Supernova12034 I have ridden US129 many times. It can be a lot of fun. There really isnt any need to ride it like a fool, as it is quite challenging on its own at the posted 30mph speed limit...or at least somewhere near the limit.
Man that was a lot of fun to watch. Making me miss my R6’s. Nice job through the Dragon. I’ve only been there once, but I live in the northern part of the Midwest. Oh, please, for he love of god fix the title. It’s “Camaro” and all of us Camaro guys are gonna get butt-hurt over it. 😂
Good video, but if you can't run that pace without constantly going over the mustard lines, then you are going too fast for your skill level... But overall, good riding and great vid.
My brother in Australia was an A grade motor cycle racer. He had won 100 races from 250s up to improved production which are now called super bikes. He also owns a genuine Evo 3 lancer and he says that up in the hills in the twisties there is no way any bike can keep up with a well set up car. Insane corner speed and raw power can be used halfway through a turn.
Love these canyons man but it’s hard to enjoy it when there’s a lot of traffic going the opposite way, sometimes they even go over the yellow lines almost hitting you. Had a few trailers almost close line me cause they go over to my side of the road
I would recommend a training in taking corners. This is for European standards a totally common country side road. No need to race and die. Only shows that Americans are not used to this.
I cannot understand why the camera man wasnt shifting back and forth from 2nd to 3rd gear to keep his bike at the peak of his power band. Im sure that bike is dead about 8,000 rpms and above. I think he would be able to get better time shifting up and down.
camaro was slow af, I was the middle bike. This was like a 5/10. Not a fan of running with cars usually because not many are very fast and slow down in weird places.
Good job riding your ride and not trying to over ride but you should work on staying in your lane a little more on those turns as you dont know whats coming around you can get smacked in the head by a car.
took a lot risks trying to catch up eh? here is a mission: make MaxWrist fall! (btw motorcycle is no match for the grip of a nicely setup car. i don't even try but respect to people who do)
Well of course, a motorcycle has 2 wheels and a car has 4 massive wheels. It doesnt take a genius to realize that. But still a nicely setup 400cc with 50 horsepower bike is going to keep up with a a 300 horsepower car...
@@emptyMT839 A nicely setup 400cc with 50hp absolutely cannot keep up with a nicely setup car at 300hp, with equal riding / driving skill (e.g. advanced) especially at the tail. No way. You must be getting it on with tourists.. I would like to see, let alone advanced riders, professionals try passing some of those local people with honda civics on slicks with their superbikes (and they have low HP).
@@tunctoker856 this is such a stupid comparison anyways, they don’t handle near the same cars don’t lean and bikes can stop faster and accelerate even harder I don’t know who’s laptimes you’re looking at and not everyone is a professional biker/ driver. But all I know is going elbow down on a corner is way more fun and not even driving a $300,000 car can match the feelingz
@@emptyMT839 indeed, I agree 100%.. I am just saying it cuz the video poster is inherently comparing his performance to the camaro. Just trying to say that as riders, we don't need to be doing that...
My 80hp car with $80 tires (200tw), driven by me, keeps up with 80HP bikes with average riders very easily on the dragon. In fact, most of the time they are holding me up. (My single cam AE86). Even the ones that are clearly trying to go fast and not pulling over. Lots of people overestimate the abilities of a bike vs a car, especially cornering and braking. Cars are better at this very twisty low speed corner exit stuff. Bikes have a hard time getting up on power without a wheelie or washing out on these slow exits, cars just rotate a bit and go at over 1g. If this was a bigger road with more high speed sweepers then the car advantage goes away. Less direction changes, and the bikes can use their power to weight advantage more fully on exits. Now if you wanna talk about who is having the most fun, that's different. But its worth noting that the most common type of motorcycle accident is a bike rear ending a stopping car. That's what overconfidence is.
This dude is just going to throw a fit when things don't go his way but I was the same way when I was 8 yrs old. Screaming at someone to get off the road is not how this works because nobody owe you shit and maybe you should stay behind them so you can practice talking like Maxwrist.
@@rickster2929 okay negative Nancy. I’m sure their speed was above the speed limit and they should have rode in stagger too and blah blah blah. It’s the tail, people go out there to show off all the time. I don’t agree with crossing the mustard but doesn’t make it any less of a stout ride. Get bent.
@@kawasakirrpilot Cars are better than bikes in the turns, but much slower in a straight line. Camaro is a great chassis, and if in top spec, it should have the advantage here. Very few people know how to drive.
@@emptyMT839that's a Camaro ZLE. The best track capable Camaro ever, and better on the track than a new mid engine Corvette with Z51 package. It's a muscle car, and it's heavy, but it sure as hell can take turns for what it is. This road is not the place to push 10/10s. Fun video though for sure.
Yeah boy. This guy is epic in total disregard for the laws of our land and for the safety of other human beings. The speed limit on the Dragon is 30 mph, but you go ahed and go 60-70 plus and then yell and scream at other people when they don't aid you in your lawlessness. You are an inspiration to us all. "NOT"
This is why I don't ride there..Don't want to be taken out by a Rossi wanna be. Go to track days,find out what really going fast is and live a longer life
You are on the wrong side of the a few times your lines are shit the Camaro is to much for your bike,but a above you are riding above your skill level on a public road
I should put my cashapp lol $mikeR1m need 502$ for the M4
Peak poor too? Love it ☠️☠️☠️
@hypedad you should send me a few dollars so I ain't so poor
@@kawasakirrpilot maybe my views and comments and shares will get you paid my man 👍🏻🫡
Clearly riding out of your depth, and very lucky.
Gotta practice staying off the mustard.
And the mayo. That was the main reason he could keep up with his buddies, cutting corners. Other riders never did...
He can’t. He sucks lol 😂
You are a accident waiting to happen.
As a local please stay in your lane.....
yea i was not very good at that on this day
You'll make a nice hood ornament . Just a matter of time .
I enjoyed the commentary. I enjoyed how thrilled you were. I'm not sure if anyone spoke to you that day, but crossing the mustard is just about the worst thing to do up there..(Insert but I could see ahead comments). David was able to keep his camaros peach between the lines for the most part. A bike shouldn't be across the lanes. I'd hate to see you lose a head up there, which happens more than you'd think.
yes im aware i try my best not to do that unless im gonna make a pass, especially on a new road like that
are you chucky? the fast guy there
@@kawasakirrpilot I've been called chucky before. I am not local, but I'm up there almost every weekend. Yellow MKV supra.
People call others all kinds of names tbh. The fast persons usually hang out at night vs day time.
Yo, your commentary was top tier bro. Kept me engaged the whole run😂
Thank you bro! I really enjoy making the videos like that
@kawasakirrpilot so fr, after the first few corners the boys were leading out, so what do you think you needed that would've kept you in the mix?
This guy scared the piss outta me with that kind of skill set.
Hopefully he doesn't kill himself trying to prove something
Double yellow is there for a reason bruh. The dudes in front of you seem to know what it’s for when you’re close enough to see them 😂
Your previous crash and blaming the "throttle sticking" hasn't taught you anything yet? Don't ride like a total squid. Other people are on this road too, it's not your personal track. Go do a track day where it's safer. Not trying to roast you, but if you listen, you'll be thankful that you did one day vs laying in a ditch with the lower half of your body laying 30 feet away.
That Camaro wasn't even pushing the limits either, which is understandable considering how busy the dragon stays.
MIKE!!! That was the most EPIC run I have had on the Dragon EVER!!! I will forever share this video and so happy we all made it to the end safely!!! A little background on my 2021 #ZL1 #1LE A10 Camaro is that it is 100% OEM with the exception of the @HawkPerformance DTC60 brake pads, Rotofab intake, Gates Green SC belt and ATI billet crank pulley and stock-diameter blower pulley. The tires I was running are stock sized 305 30/19 & 325 30 19 Michelin Sport Cup 4S, not the 100TW Goodyear Supercar 3R tires the car comes stock with and what I track at Road Atlanta, Barber or VIR. Here is the link to the rear GoPro until it overheated! czcams.com/video/j_MFOyYjK98/video.html
My name is the same on Instagram check me out so you can message me your number we will definitely hit you up next time we go it was an amazing ride it was almost all I could do to keep up my friends are way faster than me lol
That thing sounds amazing on your rear cam
Word. I drive by hawk performance everyday on the way to work.
What lap times does it run at Barber?
Practice being smoother and holding your line speed will come the smoother you are on the throttle and brakes. You where way out position a lot and there increase risk. Remember ride your ride be safe and speed will come
Riders of his age & "skill level" will never improve further. They are at their limit.
Dont feel bad man, my buddies leave me in the Twisties too 😂
Fantastic I love the Video!!!! I Visited and drove the Dragon in June these year.
Not only did they beat you fair and square....you were cheating and they still won. Gotta stay inside your lane. Those other two bikes managed it.
This video is a great tutorial on how to die.
@@Supernova12034 I have ridden US129 many times. It can be a lot of fun. There really isnt any need to ride it like a fool, as it is quite challenging on its own at the posted 30mph speed limit...or at least somewhere near the limit.
hey nice riding man. very very satisfying to watch . definitely earned a new subscriber :P
Appreciate that dawg!
I really enjoyed that! I have an FZ10 and a 2SS Camaro built specifically for the twisties. I like to go FAST
Me and my club brothers will be on tail beginning of August. Looking forward to it. We gonna be cruising tho. Not trying to run like that
That was intense boi!
Man that was a lot of fun to watch. Making me miss my R6’s. Nice job through the Dragon. I’ve only been there once, but I live in the northern part of the Midwest. Oh, please, for he love of god fix the title. It’s “Camaro” and all of us Camaro guys are gonna get butt-hurt over it. 😂
Omg thanks for that lol
Damn that Camero is fast. It must be a ZL1. That Magnetic ride suspension in Sport mode will smoke those bikes.
Great work dude
lol i sure the fuck enjoyed that! your subscribers should fund a new exhaust for you!!
Good video, but if you can't run that pace without constantly going over the mustard lines, then you are going too fast for your skill level... But overall, good riding and great vid.
My brother in Australia was an A grade motor cycle racer. He had won 100 races from 250s up to improved production which are now called super bikes. He also owns a genuine Evo 3 lancer and he says that up in the hills in the twisties there is no way any bike can keep up with a well set up car. Insane corner speed and raw power can be used halfway through a turn.
This just rocks...I live the Dragon and the Hellbender and the Skyway
This Is exactly why I will never ride 129 again I'm 56 and have rode since 15 I live in Knoxville and one time Is all it takes to many 0-100 to 0.
Is the tail of the dragon a yearly meet or is it a show up and see?
Love these canyons man but it’s hard to enjoy it when there’s a lot of traffic going the opposite way, sometimes they even go over the yellow lines almost hitting you. Had a few trailers almost close line me cause they go over to my side of the road
Yea have to pay special attention while riding like this
A well driven track type car is faster than most people think up there.
And that’s why I don’t travel the Dragon anymore. Too many cars can’t drive like the Camero. Two Ferraris bit the dust in the last month.
to each their own
That was epic! Thx
Run the Cherohala Skyway it's longer and better than the dragon!
I would recommend a training in taking corners. This is for European standards a totally common country side road. No need to race and die. Only shows that Americans are not used to this.
Complicado meterle ahí al camaro jeje
Un buen tramo para curvear..
Gracias saludos
Just how did you pull this off without ending up in the back seat of a Patrol Car?
who stops for them lol?
Hells yes
maybe some lessons from Antprilia or MaxWrist would help you from being a squirrel
I'm assuming you ment squid?
I cannot understand why the camera man wasnt shifting back and forth from 2nd to 3rd gear to keep his bike at the peak of his power band. Im sure that bike is dead about 8,000 rpms and above. I think he would be able to get better time shifting up and down.
Fantàstic 🦾😈🏍️
That's an awesome run!
Can’t believe you didn’t pass a cop.
My ass is puckered i jeed s Camaro now
You need to learn and practice down shifting. I hope your not using the rear brakes. Use the motor to control rear wheel speed. Wish I could be there.
Very rarely use the rear brake when riding like this also what's wrong with my downshifting?
too slowboy...bt hawtt damn that camaroo gettin it boy... seeshh...
camaro was slow af, I was the middle bike. This was like a 5/10. Not a fan of running with cars usually because not many are very fast and slow down in weird places.
I feel ALIVE
WHAT A RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSH!!!!!!!!!!!
Good job riding your ride and not trying to over ride but you should work on staying in your lane a little more on those turns as you dont know whats coming around you can get smacked in the head by a car.
Yes I should I said that out loud in this video lol
@@kawasakirrpilot i didnt get to finish the video🤣. Had to leave for work haha
All good lol
took a lot risks trying to catch up eh? here is a mission: make MaxWrist fall! (btw motorcycle is no match for the grip of a nicely setup car. i don't even try but respect to people who do)
Well of course, a motorcycle has 2 wheels and a car has 4 massive wheels. It doesnt take a genius to realize that. But still a nicely setup 400cc with 50 horsepower bike is going to keep up with a a 300 horsepower car...
@@emptyMT839 A nicely setup 400cc with 50hp absolutely cannot keep up with a nicely setup car at 300hp, with equal riding / driving skill (e.g. advanced) especially at the tail. No way. You must be getting it on with tourists.. I would like to see, let alone advanced riders, professionals try passing some of those local people with honda civics on slicks with their superbikes (and they have low HP).
@@tunctoker856 this is such a stupid comparison anyways, they don’t handle near the same cars don’t lean and bikes can stop faster and accelerate even harder I don’t know who’s laptimes you’re looking at and not everyone is a professional biker/ driver. But all I know is going elbow down on a corner is way more fun and not even driving a $300,000 car can match the feelingz
@@emptyMT839 indeed, I agree 100%.. I am just saying it cuz the video poster is inherently comparing his performance to the camaro. Just trying to say that as riders, we don't need to be doing that...
My 80hp car with $80 tires (200tw), driven by me, keeps up with 80HP bikes with average riders very easily on the dragon. In fact, most of the time they are holding me up. (My single cam AE86). Even the ones that are clearly trying to go fast and not pulling over.
Lots of people overestimate the abilities of a bike vs a car, especially cornering and braking. Cars are better at this very twisty low speed corner exit stuff. Bikes have a hard time getting up on power without a wheelie or washing out on these slow exits, cars just rotate a bit and go at over 1g.
If this was a bigger road with more high speed sweepers then the car advantage goes away. Less direction changes, and the bikes can use their power to weight advantage more fully on exits.
Now if you wanna talk about who is having the most fun, that's different. But its worth noting that the most common type of motorcycle accident is a bike rear ending a stopping car. That's what overconfidence is.
This dude is just going to throw a fit when things don't go his way but I was the same way when I was 8 yrs old. Screaming at someone to get off the road is not how this works because nobody owe you shit and maybe you should stay behind them so you can practice talking like Maxwrist.
the amount of hate in your soul is overwhelming
This hurts to watch. 😬 is this “minimum wrist”, same amount of cringe, less amount of riding ability?
Glad you watched it bro thank you
@@kawasakirrpilot yw! Lmao 🤣 do more of this so I can share with my friends and we can keep laughing at it 😂😂🤣🤣
You need to learn to always stay in your lane
You certainly ride faster than me but come on man, a cage
Get it dude! Y’all were killing it! Can’t wait to do another dragon run.
Killing it is staying in your lane
@@rickster2929 okay negative Nancy. I’m sure their speed was above the speed limit and they should have rode in stagger too and blah blah blah. It’s the tail, people go out there to show off all the time. I don’t agree with crossing the mustard but doesn’t make it any less of a stout ride. Get bent.
Camaro wasn't hitting its apexes. It should have walked away from them.
would of takin one hell of a driver to walk away from bikes on this road
camaro was slow and heavy, muscle cars cant take turns. I was the middle bike, this pace was like a 5/10....
@@kawasakirrpilot Cars are better than bikes in the turns, but much slower in a straight line. Camaro is a great chassis, and if in top spec, it should have the advantage here. Very few people know how to drive.
@@guest6423 i agree that they are capable of speed and they have more traction so
@@emptyMT839that's a Camaro ZLE. The best track capable Camaro ever, and better on the track than a new mid engine Corvette with Z51 package.
It's a muscle car, and it's heavy, but it sure as hell can take turns for what it is.
This road is not the place to push 10/10s.
Fun video though for sure.
Yeah boy. This guy is epic in total disregard for the laws of our land and for the safety of other human beings. The speed limit on the Dragon is 30 mph, but you go ahed and go 60-70 plus and then yell and scream at other people when they don't aid you in your lawlessness. You are an inspiration to us all. "NOT"
i love you
This is why I don't ride there..Don't want to be taken out by a Rossi wanna be. Go to track days,find out what really going fast is and live a longer life
Stay off the PAINT
🫏🤡
Are you calling me an assclown?
Maybe just learn proper body positioning. I used to live in Robbinsville, so I know the terrain.
I struggle hard with that lol my body doesn't move like I need it too
You are riding on ego
That is a fair statement for this day
You are on the wrong side of the a few times your lines are shit the Camaro is to much for your bike,but a above you are riding above your skill level on a public road
I ruined this video having 69 likes.
thanks lol