Tail of the Dragon - Tempers Flare

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  • čas přidán 6. 10. 2022
  • C'Ville Bill and I go way back! We went to school together and were up in Lake Lure NC having a small college reunion. We decided that it was a good opportunity to ride the dragon and Cherohala Skyway. C'Ville Bill rode his 1200GS down from Charlottesville VA and I flew from Florida into Asheville and rented an F850GS on riders share. Everything worked out great. Our college buddy Kurt returned the rental car to Asheville airport and Bill and I headed to Robbinsville where we stayed in an Airbnb Sunday evening close to the dragon. We intended to ride it early Monday morning hoping for a traffic free pass on this iconic road but sometimes things don't go as planned. Tempers flared when an SUV driving well under the speed limit refused to use any of the pull offs. Watch to the end to see what happened!
    #TOD #Tailofthedragon #dealsgap

Komentáře • 671

  • @heyoldtime8969
    @heyoldtime8969 Před 8 měsíci +40

    It should be noted that US 129 is a road that is used by the people who live there. It's not a racetrack. It's a normal route that locals use to get around. Just because you come from another state to ride the Dragon and have to go slow is not their problem.

  • @henryjones4447
    @henryjones4447 Před rokem +110

    The speed limit is 30. I live less than 20 minutes from dragon. I pay taxes in the county. I try to avoid the racers by choosing times to use my camper van (also I pull off for passing when I can). I’ve had racers try to run me off road! Chill out man!! Some people (idiots) try to make a racetrack out of it and cannot tolerate it’s use by anybody else. The Cherokee Indians routed the trail. I’m thankful for their contribution. So enjoy the scenery. Don’t like to share? Don’t come!

    • @johnrenterprises2604
      @johnrenterprises2604 Před rokem +5

      A big AMEN!

    • @thelake56
      @thelake56 Před rokem +4

      Agree with Henry!!!

    • @ericwilson178
      @ericwilson178 Před rokem +2

      The speed limit is only 30mph if they catch you. :)
      I feel the need for speed.

    • @ericwilson178
      @ericwilson178 Před rokem +4

      Btw.... US Hwy 129 is a national highway. Your county taxes don't contribute anything towards maintaining a national highway. All of us pay for that.

    • @1107jordanlego
      @1107jordanlego Před rokem +4

      im sure the hundreds of thousands of visitors every year pay much more in taxes than you. they are vital for you economy

  • @jeffhudspeth6397
    @jeffhudspeth6397 Před rokem +37

    Dang! You’re riding a motorcycle on the Dragon, and complaining the whole time. You missed a wonderful ride.

  • @Guinn1964
    @Guinn1964 Před rokem +70

    You should have made them close the road off just for you . What are them other people thinking driving like that? It’s almost like they we’re trying to enjoy the views or something! Man the nerve of some people.

    • @GrumbleB
      @GrumbleB Před rokem +6

      You wanna enjoy the view ..... Then pull over and get a good look . Others shouldn't have to sit behind you doing less then the speed limit ....

    • @boomerzoomer3172
      @boomerzoomer3172 Před rokem +1

      That Honda should’ve pulled over it’s common knowledge on this road to pull over to let faster cars pass

    • @saturnkingofmushrooms7821
      @saturnkingofmushrooms7821 Před rokem +9

      @@GrumbleB the limit was 30, dickcheese here wanted to go 40 and stated honking at the people going the speed limit

    • @GrumbleB
      @GrumbleB Před rokem +1

      @@saturnkingofmushrooms7821 you need to get your eyes checked sonny boy.....

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks for you comment!!!

  • @loosingparts6159
    @loosingparts6159 Před rokem +44

    First of those 10 rules is don’t be a couple of douche bags.

    • @ericwilson178
      @ericwilson178 Před rokem +2

      At what point were they "douche bags"?
      You might want to look in the mirror next time.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @gjones7777
    @gjones7777 Před rokem +19

    "absolutely absurd man"..............yes,.........yes you are 🤣🤣

  • @georgekililis264
    @georgekililis264 Před 9 měsíci +22

    The cars and the HD may have been slow but you and Mr Horn are the only ones who showed their ass.

  • @kellyoneill7550
    @kellyoneill7550 Před rokem +34

    I can't believe that I watched this drivel as long as I did! It started out well... until the entitled karen attitude surfaced. It's not your personal racetrack, bro.

    • @johnstowe3267
      @johnstowe3267 Před rokem

      They should’ve just pulled over to let the faster traffic pass…the end!

    • @noellan57
      @noellan57 Před 11 měsíci

      @@johnstowe3267 entitled prick.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @markshag5149
    @markshag5149 Před rokem +48

    After bitching about those in your way … once clear of them your speed was not much more? Dude, chill!

    • @johnstowe3267
      @johnstowe3267 Před rokem +2

      That’s why they caught up to them twice 😂…they were holding up traffic and should have pulled over…how many times have you slayed the dragon? 😂😂😂

    • @RoadKing05FLHR
      @RoadKing05FLHR Před rokem +7

      ​@@johnstowe3267 wrong. Those wanting to speed through there need to pull over.
      How do you expect people to pull over for you so they can attempt to get back on the road with people flying around curves? How many different people should they pull over for to make it 11 miles down the road? Is that how you think people drive on a racetrack?
      The idiots on that road are not waiting for people to reach a pull out. Nobody is required to use a pull out.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @cphillips3513
    @cphillips3513 Před rokem +35

    "i'd like to overtake them, but they might try to run me off the road" LOL. Maybe I'll just sit behind them for 10 miles beeping my horn and flashing my lights....I'm starting to understand why car drivers hate us. Nice riding champ.

    • @boomerzoomer3172
      @boomerzoomer3172 Před rokem +5

      Even if he wanted to pass you really can’t cross the double yellow on TOD…just curious have you been on TOD?

    • @chrissyfowler3613
      @chrissyfowler3613 Před rokem +1

      Where is the video of you riding TOD 😂

    • @johnstowe3267
      @johnstowe3267 Před rokem +1

      Troll

    • @cphillips3513
      @cphillips3513 Před rokem +7

      @@chrissyfowler3613 Sorry, bit confused, would you like a vid of me riding the dragon, or a vid of me sitting behind a mini van and beeping my horn and flashing my lights at a family out on a fun family drive? 🤡

    • @jamesadams2334
      @jamesadams2334 Před rokem +7

      @@cphillips3513 no reason to flashlights and beep horns. Just ride normal!

  • @chrisgaskill7923
    @chrisgaskill7923 Před rokem +11

    Grow some and pass the car

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @brucebelitz3451
    @brucebelitz3451 Před rokem +38

    Hey jack wit, people drive this road several times a day to get to work, home the store etc... it's not here for your enjoyment it's to move from one side of the mountains to the other! As for the speed limit they are driving the speed limit and double yellow on this route which means no passing!

    • @guylupo2564
      @guylupo2564 Před 7 měsíci

      Hey Brucie, I don't live in bum fuk Tennessee, so the only reason I would travel that road is the beautiful scenery and twisting roads. It would 100% be for my pure enjoyment. So go play sheriff on property that you actually own.

    • @TheOutlawWay940
      @TheOutlawWay940 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@guylupo2564Right?! I am a tax paying citizen and can ride where ever I please, Im a man and nobody is gonna tell me Im not welcome on public property

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks!!

  • @tdreed64
    @tdreed64 Před rokem +8

    The Harley and the car have just as much right to be there as you and there is a speed limit on 129. Why should they have to pull over so you can be a danger to on coming traffic?

  • @griz5178
    @griz5178 Před rokem +36

    no one has to get out of your way! they have just as much right to be there you are rude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have ridden that road plenty sometimes fast and sometimes get behind a slow person site seeing you give motor cycle riders a bad name

    • @redrider0151
      @redrider0151 Před rokem +2

      WRONG!!! When you are holding up multiple vehicles you are supposed to use the pulloffs to allow them to pass....THAST WHAT THEY WERE BUILT FOR

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @johnnybuttons8814
    @johnnybuttons8814 Před rokem +64

    It’s first and last point A to B. It is a bit uncivil watching this and not feeling the commentator feels this road was made for them to ride exactly as desired, which does not include others. Pull off and if you can’t take it, your opinion is like mine, everyone has one. But why post a video of ignorance? Country roads in the hills are built for transportation.

    • @chrissyfowler3613
      @chrissyfowler3613 Před rokem +4

      Sorry but this road is a major entertainment draw for the area. Many locals probably make their living off the tourism that the Tail of the Dragon brings in

    • @robragle
      @robragle Před rokem +5

      Johnny buttons needs a grammar lesson.

    • @jamesadams2334
      @jamesadams2334 Před rokem +12

      @@chrissyfowler3613 Highways are NOT entertainment.

    • @Jody-xd1vs
      @Jody-xd1vs Před rokem +22

      The speed limit on the tail is 35. At what point was the car going excessively slow. Maybe the car was enjoying the road. I believe this rider is arrogant. Doesn't help the motorcycle community get a better reputation.

    • @seanmurphy637
      @seanmurphy637 Před rokem +5

      There's this thing called consideration. Yes, the cage driver does have the right to drive at any legal speed, but if they see traffic building up behind them then they could easily pull over for literally a few seconds to let it pass. Especially since the cager was obviously not in a hurry. It's called consideration for fellow road users.

  • @johngilbert1047
    @johngilbert1047 Před rokem +22

    Love the entitled attitude of the sport bike riders. It’s a public US Highway. Those that think they should be able to go as fast as they want are just as bad as the slowpokes. “I only want to go 40 or 45…I wanna go the speed limit”. Speed limit is 30.

    • @BackRoadzRider
      @BackRoadzRider Před 7 měsíci +1

      That only works if a person knows numbers and can read.

    • @robertwilliams450
      @robertwilliams450 Před 6 měsíci

      It's your ride, go your own pace and be safe😊

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks for your comments!!

  • @jb856
    @jb856 Před rokem +11

    Nothing worse than jackass adv riders that think they own the roads. How dare people drive safe!

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @davidholbrook1118
    @davidholbrook1118 Před rokem +12

    Quit crying 😢 Mr. Impatient, 1000lb Harley-Davidson to your 350lb.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @helland846
    @helland846 Před rokem +21

    I ride, but we do not own this road.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @Chigoesandflea
    @Chigoesandflea Před rokem +13

    Why would they pull over for tourers in Levis going 10mph faster? Grow some and go by!

  • @gb23a
    @gb23a Před rokem +39

    This Guy thinks he owns the road I'd be going slower

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @theodoredunham4625
    @theodoredunham4625 Před rokem +16

    Speed limit is 30 up there. The "sad" memorial you saw was just one of many from riders like you. It's not a carnival ride. You didn't pay admission. You clearly don't care enough to even control your vehicle. On or over the double yellows. Too bad you didn't see more oncoming traffic to remind you what lane is yours. It's a great thing that you don't think you're coming back anytime soon. Glad your buddies audio was dropping out if he sounds at all like you. You give motorcyclists a bad name.

  • @ovritphew9675
    @ovritphew9675 Před rokem +6

    Cagers? You know that after you and your butt buddy get home from your bro ride you'll be back in your cage on the way to work. I ride and love the curves but also understand that the Dragon is a road that people also travel on daily. You wanna race go get a dirt bike.

  • @walterfarley9230
    @walterfarley9230 Před rokem +9

    This is a federal hwy. he has every right to it i drove 129 for 15 years and never pulled over . Let them get their own race track

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @RoadKing05FLHR
    @RoadKing05FLHR Před rokem +27

    This is the only problem with the route. Too many people think it's a racetrack and they don't even know how a racetrack works. You do not own the road. People are not required to pull over for you to pass. You could just pull over and wait a while.
    I'm sure you would not like people passing you in a blind curve. There are other idiots coming the opposite way.

    • @jdpalmer1
      @jdpalmer1 Před rokem +1

      But if you're obviously holding up traffic you need to use the pull off for a few seconds. Unless your ego is too fragile.

    • @RoadKing05FLHR
      @RoadKing05FLHR Před rokem +4

      @@jdpalmer1 there are a lot of people racing on the road. It's not safe to enter the roadway. It's only 11 miles, a person should be able to go 11 miles without pulling over for reckless people.
      If a person did pull over then then will find more people coming behind them again. It makes no sense at all.
      Those wanting to race are the ones that need to use pull outs. It's the people racing that create a problem. It's their problem.

    • @jdpalmer1
      @jdpalmer1 Před rokem +1

      @@RoadKing05FLHR I don't want to race, I just don't want to get stuck behind someone that can't even go the speed limit. Pull over and there will be no problem getting back on as soon as the group of people stacked up behind you are past.

    • @RoadKing05FLHR
      @RoadKing05FLHR Před rokem +1

      @@jdpalmer1 or you could just pass or pull over

    • @jdpalmer1
      @jdpalmer1 Před rokem +2

      @@RoadKing05FLHR So your ego won't allow you to let anyone pass you? Too sad.

  • @D.E.X
    @D.E.X Před rokem +9

    Yeah, whining because you can't break the law during the Monday-Friday hours because normal people use the road to go to work seems pretty lame. Or entitled.
    Go on the weekend. Then you'll be the ones sworn at, yelled at, and honked at because you are too slow.
    Total lack of respect.

  • @SCBiker58
    @SCBiker58 Před rokem +13

    Typical arrogance of many that ride a BMW 😂. If your so good pass him 🤔

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @bohunter1949
    @bohunter1949 Před rokem +5

    Whaaa whaaa” get a grip you’re not the only one out there riding. 😂

  • @haroldcotten1840
    @haroldcotten1840 Před rokem +50

    Ya'll aren't the only ones on the road dude

    • @logut80
      @logut80 Před 7 měsíci +2

      That's what you should tell the ppl in the suv

    • @jamesadams2334
      @jamesadams2334 Před 6 měsíci +2

      You mean the people obeying the speed limit? Grow up!@@logut80

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @PRR4800
    @PRR4800 Před rokem +178

    Many of us that live in this dragon area truly dislike the entitled dragon slayers that invade this place.

    • @charlespflanze9651
      @charlespflanze9651 Před rokem +11

      Back in the 70's I used to ride the Dragon all the time, nobody was there and the rider had the feeling of being in a near primeval wilderness. I got quite fast on the road and had it memorized, I could ride it safely but I worked my way up to it. Some of the curves were reverse banked and there were places the road was in poor condition. I also rode the Cherohala highway a bit while it was under construction. All these areas were quiet and very scenic. I hate these places now and I'd never go back. It's all been destroyed, I'd get more of a wilderness experience in NYC Central Park than I would on the Dragon. I'm hoping that a horrific economic catastrophe will put an end to *all* tourist traffic in these areas and that peace and quiet will someday return. Back when I was riding I was going solo and cell phones didn't exist. Back in those days you play road racer in the mountains and fly off down a hillside at high speed - it might be the very last thing you do. Thanks guys, you've all trashed the place beyond recognition, it's all gone, all destroyed. TVA sure did help by destroying the wonderfully scenic Little Tennessee River below Chilhowee Dam. It's all an ugly mud hole now in fall and winter. In the early 70's this entire area looked like something out of a movie, scenery so wild and magnificent that it belonged on postcards. To heck with each and every one of you responsible for destroying these unique areas. May millions of fleas infest yer armpits! Same goes for everybody that ruined Wear's Valley. I used to ride my CB450 in that area a very long time ago when it was all small farms and a tiny little community place with a church, a store/gas station, a few other commercial buildings, and that was it. A neat ride with sharp curves, hills, spectacular scenery, and hardly any traffic. Today the entire place has been trashed beyond recognition with tourist garbage and "mountain homes" everywhere. And now every few years the place experiences big firestorms that burn down a lot of that crap, but they'll build it right back. Only a grinding economic calamity and decades long depression will return all of this back to where it used to be.

    • @GrumbleB
      @GrumbleB Před rokem

      😆.... you one of the assholes going 5 under the speed limit aren't you..?

    • @PRR4800
      @PRR4800 Před rokem +1

      @@GrumbleB lmao Have a good day and stay safe

    • @raytycker1656
      @raytycker1656 Před rokem +22

      I would introduce this horn blowing clown to my rear bumper.

    • @GrumbleB
      @GrumbleB Před rokem +16

      @@raytycker1656 you're so tuff 😂. Probably gotta Biden sticker on that bumper too...

  • @rogermaslonsr.9156
    @rogermaslonsr.9156 Před rokem +49

    NOTHING like a nice, stress-free, civilised, pleasant drive -or ride- ...without some asshole honking at you because he can go faster and NEEDS to like he's late for ...what!

    • @briarfox637
      @briarfox637 Před rokem +5

      Yeah, but at least go the speed limit. There's a difference between going slow and going the speed limit.

    • @ericwilson178
      @ericwilson178 Před rokem +1

      @@briarfox637 you will never know.

    • @ericwilson178
      @ericwilson178 Před rokem +1

      Ohhh, but the opportunities you have. Too blind to see. Many Americans would love to have the opportunities you have.

    • @briarfox637
      @briarfox637 Před rokem +1

      @@ericwilson178 TF are you talking about?

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @clynnwooderson5577
    @clynnwooderson5577 Před rokem +14

    I don’t think you should be on motor vehicles

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @kriskoppy2753
    @kriskoppy2753 Před rokem +17

    Been on the Dragon several times. A lovely mountain curvy ride. I was on a “big cruiser” and it was effortless. I guess you ?think you own the Dragon….? It’s one thing to ride like an idiot. It’s quite another to post a video of it on CZcams.

    • @redrider0151
      @redrider0151 Před rokem

      You will have to tell me at what point he was riding like an idiot??? He didnt pass on a double yellow, he didnt buzz them....he showed FAR MORE restraint than pretty much ANY rider I ride with.....jsut because he talks in his helmet about the fact that the people in the van were intentionally going as slow as possible doesnt make his riding and different....the van was a bunch of dicks

  • @haroldcotten1840
    @haroldcotten1840 Před rokem +5

    If he pulled off you still have a car in front of you he couldn't go any faster than the car

  • @roadkingthunder
    @roadkingthunder Před rokem +22

    Really put off by the riders comments.Im a long time rider and get the whole cant open her up issue,but its a public road.For me,the riders comments ruined the video,not the car doing the speed limit.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @joestraughan5973
    @joestraughan5973 Před rokem +90

    Dang it man, it looks like you got all upset about following the van when you maybe should have just been enjoying the ride.

    • @murrelldooms7982
      @murrelldooms7982 Před rokem

      The driver of the vehicle that you are behind has every right to be there. I f don't like following people you need to pull over and quit pushing. The road is not yours. Rode for over 25 years and never seen such JERK.

    • @logut80
      @logut80 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Hard to enjoy when you're going so slow you almost fall over

    • @garyallen6486
      @garyallen6486 Před 7 měsíci

      What a cow! So sorry you had to go 10mph under the limit most of the way- and then SHE got upset with YOU! People can be such asses…

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @JM-rp9qf
    @JM-rp9qf Před rokem +12

    Yall just let some broad ruin a perfectly good ride. You should have pulled over and waited 30 seconds and you would have been fine as slow as you're riding. That or pass them, they're in a mini van!

  • @Mackthefinger01
    @Mackthefinger01 Před rokem +8

    Dude, really

  • @jimspencer319
    @jimspencer319 Před rokem +63

    Hey,buddy this is not a racetrack,it is a state highway !

    • @jnel57
      @jnel57 Před rokem +4

      It is not a state Highway. It is a US Highway

    • @47MTCLLC
      @47MTCLLC Před rokem

      @@jnel57 State Hwy County Hwy this guy is a complete douche nut!

    • @garychandler4296
      @garychandler4296 Před rokem

      Can't watch any more. My pard andi on a performance modded Harley and a Victory, WILL NOT ride it on a weekend because of the clueless slugs that a) won't use the pulloffs or b) watch mirrors, c) single up and let you pass. When with the Dragon, we are there for the ROAD AND RIDE, NOT the freaking scenery that never changes!
      We often even pass crotch rockets or adv bikes because they are just flower sniffers, duck-walking selfish no-riders.
      We feel your pain!

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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    • @cheetahobx
      @cheetahobx Před měsícem +1

      You ride in your vehicle....I DRIVE my vehicle.....

  • @matthewfearing3650
    @matthewfearing3650 Před rokem +26

    The road is a state route and built for transportation in a very rural area. We have no rights beyond the speed limit. I get frustrated at slow drivers at times but I do not get angry and expect them to get out of my way.

    • @phogol
      @phogol Před rokem

      so if we mic'd your car you are saying you never say a word even to yourself...sure bud. I would bet my life income that you invented sport bitching based on that comment.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @ConcoursOne
    @ConcoursOne Před rokem +11

    Gotta be an entitled BMW rider who thinks the world revolves around them.

  • @andrewdusselddorp153
    @andrewdusselddorp153 Před rokem +4

    I don't mean to be sarcastic but why in heaven's name did you just follow behind and get all pissy honking your horns instead of just passing both the Harley and the car? You have such an acceleration advantage over the car and Harley that you can just pass them at will.

  • @MrRod2001gt
    @MrRod2001gt Před rokem +10

    Lesson learned from this video, guys that ride BMW bikes are just as entitled and arrogant as guys that drive their four wheeled kraut burning cousins.

  • @brianharris4455
    @brianharris4455 Před rokem +6

    Classic ROAD RAGE…pull over and take a hit and mellow out!!!!!!!

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @ovritphew9675
    @ovritphew9675 Před rokem +15

    Hell, that "cager" probably saved your life.

  • @roberoh9574
    @roberoh9574 Před 10 měsíci +5

    "I wanna do the speed limit like 40-45" as he passes speed limit sign 30 mph. Lmao. Imagine that you have to "share the road".

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @AutumnHighway
    @AutumnHighway Před 11 měsíci +6

    The posted speed limit is just that, a "Limit." Unlike an interstate, there's no "minimum posted speed" on The Dragon, which means a driver can do less than the posted speed if they so desire. If the vehicle in front of you is prohibiting you from driving as fast as you'd like, then quit your b1tching and just enjoy the view. It's only your road to do with as you please when there's no other vehicles ahead of you. When there are others, it's their road too, and if they want to sightsee (courteous or not), it's as much their right to do so, as it is yours to play in the curves. Learn to be patient. It's only 11 miles after all. Screw it! When it's safe to do so, turn around, go back to the start, and do it again. That will give the sightseers ample time to do their thing, while now allowing you the opportunity to do yours. I'll say it again. Quit your b1tching.

    • @itsahellofaname
      @itsahellofaname Před 5 měsíci

      Speaking of interstates and "no minimum posted speed", go right ahead and putt-putt down the interstate and see if you don't get a ticket for impeding the flow of traffic. The posted speed limit is the expected speed of traffic.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @harriswaller7002
    @harriswaller7002 Před rokem +5

    Why are you in such a BFH hurry

  • @jamespittman7254
    @jamespittman7254 Před rokem +16

    These guys bitching about others riders. If they are such badass riders go around.there is a speed limit on the road. An police

    • @RICDirector
      @RICDirector Před rokem

      And its all marked NO PASSING knothead.

  • @carlwalker2017
    @carlwalker2017 Před rokem +25

    Rode my Road King on the Dragon last fall and while I enjoyed it I also thought it was a lot of work for a big Harley haha. I would rate the Cherohala Skyway a much nice less stressful ride. And if you're on the Dragon getting so upset about what's in front of you why not just pull over yourself and chill out for 10-15min and you'll never see them again.

  • @johnandrobinmccoy8305
    @johnandrobinmccoy8305 Před rokem +35

    I've ridden the dragon several times. Some cage drivers have no idea this is a motorcycle mecca, you should expect that. I'm not a super fast rider, and I'd pull over for you in a heart beat, but that's me. It is a public road, and the van was above the speed limit quite frequently. I understand your frustration, it is best for you to pull over and wait longer for the van to get ahead. Blowing you horns was a very entitled, dick move. We all make mistakes, not saying I'm perfect either.

    • @barbihollis6162
      @barbihollis6162 Před rokem

      I’d have been honking too

    • @Dave-sw2dm
      @Dave-sw2dm Před rokem +7

      The rider should have just pulled over and waited a few.

    • @stevegay9398
      @stevegay9398 Před rokem

      Why?

    • @Dave-sw2dm
      @Dave-sw2dm Před rokem +1

      @@stevegay9398 , because.

    • @ljoelmchanley3676
      @ljoelmchanley3676 Před rokem

      Most people blow toot their horn as a "thank you" as they pass someone who has pulled over for them...only out of touch anal people honk back in anger.

  • @ccwalters359
    @ccwalters359 Před rokem +5

    Your more worried about what the mini van is doing , then just taken in the ride & enjoy the time.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @mikesokolow7997
    @mikesokolow7997 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Remember, always go fast, fast ,fast. Gotta get there , Hurry ,hurry, all the time. 😆

  • @corbinhbucknerjr558
    @corbinhbucknerjr558 Před rokem +28

    The path through the mountains at US 129 started as a footpath used by the native Americans in the region. They laid out the route. Also, south of I-40 there are only 4 roads to cross the Appalachians in East Tennessee. US 441 through the Smoky Mountain National park, nice road, but very slow and full of tourists, US 129, the Cherohala, and US 64 in the southernmost part of the state. Not a lot of choices, so the cars cannot avoid that road without going a hundred miles out of the way.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před rokem +3

      Very interesting information!! Thanks for sharing!!!

    • @johngilbert1047
      @johngilbert1047 Před 8 měsíci

      Another thing to consider is the time it takes for first responders to get to the remote parts of the Dragon. There’s a helipad across from the Harley store in Tallasee on the TN side. That’s the closest a helicopter can get to it. Robbinsville is the closest on the NC side. Sometimes, there are no police within 30 minutes of the Dragon and medical help is at least that far. The store at the NC end in Deal’s Gap is in Swain County, but is isolated from the rest of the county by 1/2 hour drive thru Graham County. Graham County will respond in an emergency, but it will still take a while. US 129 used to be a truck route, but they are now prohibited. Once in a while a truck driver ignores the warning signs and causes mayhem on the mountain. Again, emergency services could be 45 min to an hour away.

  • @royhall3760
    @royhall3760 Před rokem +13

    Go around if you're such a great rider

  • @williamschleiff7506
    @williamschleiff7506 Před rokem +10

    You need to get over your self.try the dragon loop,it's 110 miles

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @ronakers3204
    @ronakers3204 Před rokem +6

    You are in the wrong buddy this is a highway for everyone to use not for you to test your skills.

  • @hanskremer8301
    @hanskremer8301 Před rokem +12

    Just overtake him mate, weak as piss haha

  • @stevemonroe1045
    @stevemonroe1045 Před rokem +5

    You want go faster and you can't even stay on your side of the yellow lines. And your speed was only hitting upper 30s. Your a bad man

  • @cantlean4440
    @cantlean4440 Před rokem +7

    I just dont think the orange Harley did anything wrong. He is behind a car for first half and two cars the second half. You wanted him to pull over so you could pass two cars on the Dragon? That would never have occurred to me. If anything I bet the Harley was thinking’s, “Good two more bikes behind me, now the car will pull over for sure.”

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @dibarra4872
    @dibarra4872 Před rokem +29

    You need to be more patient dude!!
    Enjoy the ride

  • @88buttonman
    @88buttonman Před rokem +44

    You prioritized your personal enjoyment and entitlement to your ideal video content over the safety and consideration of other road users. Imagine how intimidated and disturbed your horn blasting made the car driver trying to drive safely felt. Is there well known etiquette on this or any twisty road that says cars should pull over onto the cruddy verge for the benefit of bikes? Why did you characterize the driver as a potential roadrager? If I'm missing something please let me know but the episode looks like you were the inconsiderate one here.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před rokem +2

      Thanks for commenting! Another point of view that I greatly appreciate!!

    • @WVRider304
      @WVRider304 Před rokem +5

      The tail has paved pull offs every 1/4 mile or so in either direction. It’s customary by locals and regulars to utilize them if faster traffic comes up behind you.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před rokem +3

      @@WVRider304 yes there are pull offs meant for slower vehicles. This is common knowledge but the person driving obviously didn’t know. I’m thinking it would be great to have signs that are a little clearer for drivers so they know. It would make it much more enjoyable for everyone on TOD

    • @russjordan6039
      @russjordan6039 Před rokem +3

      The car driver was a jerk, there are turn outs for a reason, use them! In some states you could receive a ticket for slowing traffic on roads like that for not using the turn outs. God only knows how many dangerous situations this drive has caused and will cause for their inconsiderate attitude toward others. You missed a lot you do not even need to pull off all the way, just move to your right give a wave and let the bike motor by you in a safe way, it is easy and many drivers understand how this works. They gave the guy the finger, not a potential finger mind you, so assuming some road rage was certainly justified. Folks that ride motorcycles on beautiful roads like this are their for the enjoyment and there are always a few who want to make a point of ruining that enjoyment, and for what purpose. People must deal with reality and there are times one should be courteous. I understand how folks get tired of thousand of motorcycles invading their local area and many being asses, but this was not the case here.

    • @pucknhusker9426
      @pucknhusker9426 Před rokem +2

      Seems we need signs now for common sense. Ida just overtaken

  • @Redheadedmoxy
    @Redheadedmoxy Před rokem +14

    I drive this road every chance I get and I’ve always used the pull offs for the bikes or faster cars. It’s a fun road for sure.

    • @chrissyfowler3613
      @chrissyfowler3613 Před rokem +6

      All these negative comments…I just keep thinking that suv should’ve pulled over to let everyone by…maybe it’s their little game pissing off the tourists

    • @jamesadams2334
      @jamesadams2334 Před 6 měsíci

      No, they are following the law. The posted speed limit is 30mph. Either obey the law or go home! @@chrissyfowler3613

  • @bossmonkey1126
    @bossmonkey1126 Před rokem +4

    my PCX 125 scooter would embarrass you on that road

  • @howardadams781
    @howardadams781 Před rokem +4

    Why don't y'all just pass them.

  • @paulharding6638
    @paulharding6638 Před rokem +1

    "We're catching up to some haarleeeys" = 1 bike behind 2 cars.

  • @GrumbleB
    @GrumbleB Před rokem +7

    Wow grow a pair bro....

  • @timmytevlin8024
    @timmytevlin8024 Před rokem +4

    Angry about the car going 30 mph, then proceeds to go about 10 mph faster. 😂

    • @larrynoe6162
      @larrynoe6162 Před rokem +2

      Right you are, I rode my Roadglide faster than they went after they got around the car. Many skill levels riding at their level is okay. Last one of this guys video I am watching.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @Steven0040
    @Steven0040 Před 2 měsíci

    This guy has something to say about everything and everyone. I've ridden The Dragon a few times. I've never had the complaints that this guy does.

  • @user-sp3on4sd3x
    @user-sp3on4sd3x Před 7 měsíci +1

    Jay, good show but you could smile. 😊

  • @johnstowe3267
    @johnstowe3267 Před rokem +11

    What a bummer too bad people can sometimes be idiots

    • @boomerzoomer3172
      @boomerzoomer3172 Před rokem +1

      That’s why I don’t ride there any more

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před rokem +1

      It’s a good road just have to expect this kind of stuff I guess

    • @countryjoe3551
      @countryjoe3551 Před rokem +7

      Yeah, blowing your horn at someone in front of you that is running faster than the posted speed limit is a pretty d0u€hy move.

  • @mamjack6134
    @mamjack6134 Před rokem +24

    Imagine going through life under the impression that everybody else is supposed to stop what they are doing and cater to your needs.
    Get a bike with a big enough motor to pass
    Funny thing .... Look at his speedometer , aint doing shit except on the straits after the car pulled over anyways

    • @russjordan6039
      @russjordan6039 Před rokem +1

      That particular bike has awesome power available, apparently you know nothing about motorcycles. You are not supposed to not hold up other folks on roads like the Dragon, you ever wonder why they have turn outs???

    • @mamjack6134
      @mamjack6134 Před rokem +4

      @@russjordan6039 not supposed to break speed limit either. If they going so slow why didn't that powerful beast pass them? Crying through the video, feel bad for the teachers dealing with his kids .

    • @russjordan6039
      @russjordan6039 Před rokem +2

      @@mamjack6134 Hey bud, make up your mind, do not speed or blow by them and speed. He showed great restraint in making sure he did not put his or the car occupants in an unsafe situation. I am 71 and have been riding motorcycles since I was 9. I have seen these types of car drivers many times, I am not saying they are all jerks, but their lack of road awareness can still kill people.

    • @mamjack6134
      @mamjack6134 Před rokem

      @@russjordan6039 whippty dooo

    • @russjordan6039
      @russjordan6039 Před rokem +2

      @@mamjack6134 Hey dude, your mommy is calling, must be nighty night....

  • @clynnwooderson5577
    @clynnwooderson5577 Před rokem +15

    If you want to go fast do it at night,Pus

    • @chrissyfowler3613
      @chrissyfowler3613 Před rokem

      Do you rip up TOD at night? I’d like to see that vid lol…

    • @jamesadams2334
      @jamesadams2334 Před rokem +1

      Don't do it at night, GO TO A RACE TRACK!

  • @troy9er
    @troy9er Před rokem +3

    I have an F-3S Spyder. It’s a joy to ride! Wasn’t sure I would love like it, but I do! It’s like ridding a formula 1 race car on the street. I thought my ridding day were over after a major stroke 7 ears ago. My balance is the only thing that didn’t come back to normal after rehab. But I’m back baby, back in the wind!!! 😉
    My last street bike was a 1997 Valkyrie STD. Loved that bike. Miss it 😥 at least I’m back in the wind!!! ❤️

  • @terrypapineau6993
    @terrypapineau6993 Před rokem +2

    Tempers flare? I see a guy tailgating a van that has every right to be on the road.

  • @kennethjoshua3325
    @kennethjoshua3325 Před 11 měsíci +2

    They built it to haul moonshine back in the day

  • @markallison5641
    @markallison5641 Před rokem +27

    I was kind of hoping a Sasquatch would bust out in front of you.

  • @charlesbynum
    @charlesbynum Před rokem +39

    One second of throttle, properly applied, would have gotten you safely around that SUV. That's less time than it takes to flip him off.

    • @briarfox637
      @briarfox637 Před rokem +2

      He didn't flip him off, the SUV driver flipped him off.

    • @charlesbynum
      @charlesbynum Před rokem +1

      @@briarfox637 I didn't say someone flipped. I simply used that as a metric. I could have said "less time than a hissy fit the length of the dragon's tail", but that would have been much too road specific. I wanted the instruction to be more general.

    • @briarfox637
      @briarfox637 Před rokem

      @@charlesbynum Right. The way I read it made it sound like you were saying it'd take the biker less time to flip him off, flip him the bird, whatever, just to go around him.
      I was saying the biker didn't do anything. The SUV driver flipped him the bird.

    • @johnrenterprises2604
      @johnrenterprises2604 Před rokem +6

      @@briarfox637 the biker in this case was in the wrong with his entitled attitude. He got the #1 signal righteously.

    • @briarfox637
      @briarfox637 Před rokem +2

      @@johnrenterprises2604 I don't see what he was doing other than complaining the guy was going slow. He wasn't tailgating, he wasn't riding up on him. Did I miss something from the vid?

  • @rhondacockrum2657
    @rhondacockrum2657 Před 29 dny

    This is the only route for some people to get where they’re going. You were being ridiculous! What a baby!

  • @keithmone8982
    @keithmone8982 Před rokem +2

    OK. That's like taking a trip with a whiny teenager. Can't legally smack em.

  • @rob4730
    @rob4730 Před 8 měsíci +2

    You were more than patient with that driver. It's just common courtesy to pull over and let someone pass. Also, it's nice to see that all of the people her never drive over the speed limit...lol

  • @fs3994
    @fs3994 Před rokem +4

    It's a public road not a motorcycle road.

  • @thatguy8005
    @thatguy8005 Před rokem +6

    I’ve driven on these roads all my life… they seem normal to me.
    Reminds me of flying the the Bahamas for years, then flying out west in the mountains… the guys I flew with were amazed by the water… I was amazed by the mountains. Same happened for the straight road in Nevada from Hawthorne to to Yellowstone… straight road for hours. 200 mile drag strip, without a bend in the road.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 4 měsíci

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  • @royhall3760
    @royhall3760 Před rokem +4

    First pal the Harley guy could care less about YOUR experience on the dragon it's the cars in front grow up!

  • @christopherdooley9324
    @christopherdooley9324 Před měsícem +1

    Here in the UK we’d just cross the solid line and pass by.

  • @sierravalleyandharborjunction

    Number one: you don’t own the road . Number two: you don’t pay taxes to maintain the road. Number three: shut up, relax , slow down and enjoy the ride just like the other people in front of you

  • @johnstowe3267
    @johnstowe3267 Před rokem +5

    Great Tail video haven’t been there in years

  • @IamWalkingMan
    @IamWalkingMan Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great video!

  • @captseamus
    @captseamus Před rokem +2

    Lots of State Troopers on the Tail

  • @clynnwooderson5577
    @clynnwooderson5577 Před rokem +7

    Speed limit

  • @ceceliamoffat9818
    @ceceliamoffat9818 Před 11 měsíci +1

    My husband have been riding since 1969, you need to learn that there are others in this world that you need to learn they have their rights not what you think is right just for you.

  • @steventwiddy3402
    @steventwiddy3402 Před rokem +2

    Lol…….yes trucks do drive the tail of the dragon 🐉 I have personally seen them come down wheelie hell

  • @marcogalasso8882
    @marcogalasso8882 Před rokem +1

    Damn, look at your left turns dude.

  • @mustang3931962
    @mustang3931962 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Eastern Tennessee has so many roads that equal or exceed tail of the dragon

  • @tomcorbett6557
    @tomcorbett6557 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Ran that 2 up on my FLHT, fully loaded bags, tour pak, engine guard bags, tour pak rack bag.. . Scraped the floor boards most of the way up. Wife didn't want to go back down to get back to Maggie Valley where we were going to be staying. I said I'm not going around the world to get to Maggie Valley. We went back down, wasn't nearly as scary for her.. LOL.. Spending a few days in the area we came across a few roads that make the Dragon look tame.

    • @mototrips1
      @mototrips1  Před 11 měsíci

      Yes there are some great roads around the dragon! Wayah Road was one that was memorable

    • @jeffdavid3880
      @jeffdavid3880 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Did you ride the skyway? Way more fun. Also check out Suches Georgia, TWO campground. Lived in Chattanooga rode all of them quite often. Been awhile since I've ridden, had a moron take a left turn right in front of me and haven't had the money to get a new bike.

    • @tomcorbett6557
      @tomcorbett6557 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@jeffdavid3880 Not sure, about the skyway. Rode the Blue Ridge Parkway a lot. Got a kick out of the houses on some of those switch back roads hanging out over a cliff.

    • @jeffdavid3880
      @jeffdavid3880 Před 9 měsíci +1

      It's the Cherohala skyway. Very fun ride!

  • @karenallen5208
    @karenallen5208 Před rokem +4

    Big trucks are now banned on the dragon after several accidents.

  • @RoadKing05FLHR
    @RoadKing05FLHR Před rokem +10

    I have done this ride several times. When I pass someone it's because they are slowing down to let you pass. Some people actually do this in a bad spot.
    If you come up on a bike that's doing the best they can you don't need to pass them up. You should not expect them to pull over. You could just stop and pull over or just ride it again.
    Let the slower bikes do their thing too. You don't own the road.
    I think you get a good idea of what's behind you so you could turn around and go back, then ride it again.
    czcams.com/video/-mEDFaBebrE/video.html

  • @josephschmidt2183
    @josephschmidt2183 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Ride it 20 years ago and the low performance riders on high performance bikes ruined the whole experience not to mention they ran a fellow rider off the road fortunately no injuries just some bruises.

  • @larrynoe6162
    @larrynoe6162 Před rokem +2

    You want the Harley to pull over so you can follow the cage closer, get a clue.

  • @mickc4633
    @mickc4633 Před 4 měsíci +1

    You should call Red Bull and maybe they will rent the road for you. You know you could be on Hollywood