TRIP REPORT | You Wouldn't Fly a Plane Like This! | EGYPTAIR Boeing 737 | Cairo to Milan
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- Egyptair Trip Report flying from Cairo to Milan onboard one of the Egyptair Boeing 737 on a beautiful autumn day.
A flight full of contrasts. I guess that's the best way I could describe my experience on this flight with Egyptair. On one hand, we have the onboard service, which is clearly above any European airline in Economy class. On the other hand, we have the status of the plane. It was just terrible. Worse than terrible.
About the onboard service, I was surprised that they offered us a full meal service. Maybe because I got used to the ridiculous service on the European airlines... It was composed of several pieces of "dry" cucumber, chicken, or beef as the main, and a piece of chocolate cake as dessert. A piece of bread together with butter and cheese was also offered. There were 2 drinks offered water and mango juice. Later, they passed through the cabin offering coffee and tea.
I decided to try the chicken option and, once you mixed everything, I must say it was pretty good. Lots of spices there made it really tasty. I was hungry, so I asked if I could get a second one. The crew say that of course, I could, so I had it. The cake was pretty good as well.
About the route itself, we departed from Cairo in a northeasterly direction and quickly made a left turn after takeoff to start our route to Milan. From Cairo, we flew towards Alexandria, then entered the Mediterranean Sea and overflew several Greek Islands on our way to Athens. From there we fler over Greece, Albania, Croatia and, finally, Italy.
Now comes the contrast to all these good things: the plane status.
I think I didn't fly in a plane in such bad conditions in many years. I'm talking about all things not related to safety, of course. The windows were very scratched and dirty, the seats were sometimes broken, there were parts falling from the overhead compartments, and the surface of the wings was extremely dirty...
On top of that, we flew with APU inoperative (Auxiliar Power Unit). It's a little turbine located on the tail that provides electricity and air-con to the plane on the ground. It's also necessary to start the engines. That gave us delay as we had to start one engine with an external machine, then do the pushback, and then start the remaining engine using compressed air from the one that was already running. In the Trip Report I will explain you the main implications of an inoperative APU.
So, as you can see by this description and also on the Trip Report itself, it was a flight full of contrasts. Will I repeat with Egyptair? For sure yes. Their onboard service deserves another try, hopefully on an airplane in better conditions.
Now it is your turn! Have you ever flown with Egyptair? Which route? Onboard which plane? Have you ever seen a cabin in such bad conditions as in this flight? Have you ever been in Cairo? Maybe in Milan? What do you think about the Egyptair onboard service?
Lots of things to talk about! Read you in the comments!
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FLIGHT INFO:
· Airline: EGYPTAIR
· Airplane: Boeing 737-800W
· Flight number: MSR705 - MS705
· AIRPORTS:
- Departure: Cairo (CAI - HECA)
- Arrival: Milan-Malpensa (MXP - LIMC)
· Departure Gate: E12
· Seat: 33K (yes, 33K is correct; Egyptair has a strange seat numeration).
· Registration: SU-GDD
· Date of Recording: November 2022
· Recorded with SAMSUNG GALAXY S21 Ultra (in UHD 4K).
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00:00 Intro
00:26 Cairo Airport
02:14 Planespotting in Cairo
03:05 Boarding Egyptair
04:43 APU inoperative for departure
05:54 Taxi in Cairo
07:02 Takeoff from Cairo
09:30 Worst Cabin I Ever Seen
10:54 Amazing Catering Service
11:50 Greece & Second Meal
13:51 Airplane Disinfection (Insecticide)
14:37 Approaching Milan
15:33 Landing in Milan
17:01 APU Inoperative on Arrival
19:39 Disembark & Milan airport
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Hey dude, im a big fan, love this video and welldone for 100K subscribers!
I'll pass......looking at their cities, I think they are comfortable with things not being clean....sometimes being too clean doesn't make the immune system strong.
On BoardHD
I have been on Egypt air many times. it's pot luck. You could be lucky and fly on their new planes Airbus A321 Neo or Boeing 787. Both of which are new and comfortable. or you could end up flying on old planes Boeing 737 or Boeing 777.
So like I said pot luck and i had the pleasure of the old and new planes. Either way, I found the meal on board the Egyptian airline Yummy and they are very generous.
I’ve always had great experiences on EGYPTAIR, one of my favorite carriers
Cant tell if sarcasm or not...
@@JP-oe4ry no sarcasm at all! Honest response! I’m flying them to Paris in 2 weeks. I had read horrible reviews, and was skeptical to fly them at first, but this is definitely not been my experience. Amazing crew every time, and I especially love the Dreamliner that I routinely take to Paris.
Why would it be sarcasm? Don't fly Egyptair mate
Always had a nice flight with them
Great video. I’ve flown on Egyptair a few times between Heathrow and Cairo, on their 777-300 and A320/321. I never saw passengers standing in the aisle before engine shut down, as in your video. My Egyptair flights, apart from two of them, were on time. Nice crews, clean cabins, and good inflight service.
I'm looking forward to flying something long with Egyptair :)
Hopefully you don't get... Ask this trash again
It's meant to be well
I'm sorry this comment can't be real I've travelled with egyptair for over 10yrs. It's not perfect by no means I prefer it over other airlines but it really ain't good most airlines now is budget no frills.
Travelled with them last December, no more.
It's a pity you got to fly in one of the old cabins in one of their older planes not their new ones (you'll notice the difference), I've been flying with them for many years without many problems. Anyways, Great video as always, keep it up.
Wow new video will be happy to watch!
Bellissimo come sempre!
My mother flew Misrair in 1947 to Lydda and 1950 to Nicosia. It's an old airline. They only started flying to Europe after buying SAIDE (Societe Aerienne Intercintinaux d'Egypte) in the early 1950s. My aunts flew them to Rome.
nice video and very well explained!
Great Tripreport video.... I flew many times on Egyptair from Berlin to Cairo and back and their A320neo's are very clean and nice crew and i flew with their new B737-800 cabin last year it was cleaner than this one here... of course its an old one that you flew so, if you want more expreience avout this airline then you can fly with the A320neo or the other new cabin ob the B737-800 you will enjoy it... have a nice day ✈
I'm looking forward to fly on the Egyptair A220 or A320neo!!
The problem is that the ticket prices are sometimes really crazy in price!!
@@OnBoardHDYes i know thats the bad thing about it.... But i give you a good tip... if you want to book cheaper Tickets on Egyptair then try to book in Summer they are 30% cheaper than in every other season... (affordable months: MAY,JUNE,JULY)
Well done for hitting 100k hope this one is good.😀
Thanks! :)
interesting contrast with the good and the bad. thank you for the technical information; I learned a lot! Cheers!
Thanks so much, Taki :)
Have a nice weekend!
Congratulations on 100 thousand subscribers, and by the way, great video
Thanks :)
Love your videos man 😉
Nice video with out any gimmicks and other craps ! I really enjoyed hearing the sound of the engines that made me feel like I am inside the aircraft !
Glad that you've enjoyed it!! :))
Congrats for 100,000 subs!!❤❤
Nice explanation about the APU issue!
Thanks mate :)
i learn stuff every time from your vids😃
Thanks so much!
Glad to read that!
Absolutely another fabulous beautiful filming capturing, lovely content trip report and I really appreciate and enjoy watching most of your adventures videos, keep it up Sir and you nailed it again and doing an excellent great job.. have a wonderful blessing weekend.. take care stay safe. Merci
Thanks a lot :))
excellent explantion baout APU. Million thanks and greetings from Vienna.
Thanks!!
Have a nice weekend :)
Congratulations for the 100,000 subscribers! Recently you are visiting Milan quite a few times! Who knows we can finally meet some day!
Thanks so much, Niki!
Looking forward to that day! :D
Great video thanks for the explanation
Thanks mate :)
Awesome review of egyptair amazing flights Channel and this video features my flag carrier this is aviation to a. Whole new level thx for the. Great vid
Nice video. Also that plane you were in, crossed the country where I live. (Greece)
Hi Lucas how are you happy new year 2023.when I see the video of the aircraft and in that food it's mouthwatering
Thanks Fauzia :)
I had a very good experience with Egypt Air compared to other Air lines.
I had a nice expereince as well... but the cabin condition was terrible. =/
Gracias por la explicación del APU, amigo. Y por el video, por supuesto.
Un placer que te haya resultado interesante :)
Great explanation of inop APU effects and cross-bleed start not to mentio great video :)
Thanks mate :)
Maravillosamente explicado...Gracias
Muchas gracias :)
Nice 👍
Thanks for sharing
Have a nice weekend 😊
Greetings from Helsinki ❄️ Finland
siempre veo paisajes impresionantes y aprendo con sus explicaciones buenísimo, saludos
Se posso dire la mia, non volerei mai con questa compagnia. Grazie di farci questi video interessanti ciao😍
Cairo airport looks modern and respectable. The meal service on Egyptair is fair and the condition of the cabin left much to be desired. On the other hand, the quality and the clarity of the announcements by the crew appears to be very high. The Egyptair crew appear to be very professional.
I really enjoyed this fight. Only the cabin status was dissapointing..
I have always wanted to try out Egypt out but I’ve never got the chance but now I know what it’s like to be on board calls all thanks to you🙂
Congratulations for 100K subs 💃🥳🥳🥳🥳
Thanks! :)
As always, enjoy the flight , tour snd food .im not afraid to fly from my chair in my Living room. I took one flight and have not flown again. But i really enjoy traveling with you. Thank you
On BoardHD
I have been on Egypt air many times. it's pot luck. You could be lucky and fly on their new planes Airbus A321 Neo or Boeing 787. Both of which are new and comfortable. or you could end up flying on old planes Boeing 737 or Boeing 777.
So like I said pot luck and i had the pleasure of the old and new planes. Either way, I found the meal on board the Egyptian airline Yummy and they are very generous.
Good video. Thnx
Appreciate the dual english-spanish subtitles!
Thanks mate ;)
Not a drop of fuel was wasted on that takeoff run!
Clearances for inmediate takeoff are quite common :)
@@OnBoardHD I meant how long the run was.
Its funny to see how people rush to grab their bags even before the plane fully stops at the gate, haha🤣
i saw that exact airport when i went to cairo
and you literally went to my check in area bro
I love the video
I flew with this air Joburg to Jeddah in 2012
Good flight
Long transits too good to get complementary hotel with meals
From Jeddah to Cairo I asked for a dbl meal platter and yes with a pleasure they gave
Looking to flying again soon as possible
I'm looking forward to make a trip to Saudi Arabia! :)
Wow!
The service is good,but looks like the plane needs an upgrade!
Also "Sit down please!”
That was the most hilarious joke ever! XD
The whole expereince was very nice, but the cabin... well, it was almost falling apart..
I don't think I've ever flown that Airline before but I sure hope they would make the conditions much better
Greattt
Congratulations bro 100k subscribers 🥀🥰😍
Thanks! :)
This is Egypt. Things are old and need a good clean. But the people are kind, helpful and have a good sense of humour
I enjoyed the flight! :)
EGYPTAIR is one of the best , I fly EGYPTAIR since more than 40 years.
I had an overal nice experience with Egyptair and looking forward to repeat... but the cabin status was really bad..
The spry things make me laugh seriously😂
nice video ✈️ btw Milos Island is a great place to visit. by Olympic Air ATR 42-600 😁
Last time I flew EgyptAir was on their B777 from JFK to Cairo and I had a good experience
Looking forward to fly again to/from Cairo :)
I've flown several times with Egypt Air and always had good service. It's an Egyptian thing to stand up even before the plans touches the runway. It's not just Egypt Air, I've seen this on Aegean too. Air Arabia as well. This also happens on Chinese airlines.
I was really happy with the service in this flight!
I'm looking forward to try the Egyptair's A220 and A320neo, which everyone says are brilliant!
WAITING FROM SAUDI ARABIA
You were lucky to get two meals, when my wife and I flew from Cairo to Istanbul back in September, they ran out of chicken, beef only so my wife ate a piece of bread with some cheese.
I guess it was just bad luck in your case... =(
Egypt Air is a good one.
I enjoyed my trip with them... the cabin status... well...
Really interesting, and superb trip report, as always. Did I count SIX rows (26 seats) in F? Never seen that on a 737.
whatever that delivers me to the destination in one piece .I gonna consider it a primum class airlines
Last week I flew from Cairo to Amsterdam on this airline, my flight lasted 5 hours approx.
Hola se te olvido visitar el baño 😀
It’s an old plane I get it but believe me try it again they got an upgrade to seats and there are entertainment screens,it’s awesome nowadays
Con que programa editas ?
Looks like a long haul flight on Egyptair is in order
I'm really looking forward to do it! Hopefully soon! :)
Such a great video! You have taught me a lot about the working of the air planes and in this particular video, about the APU and ASU, I googled about them to understand more. Thank you so much as I am a aviation and airplane lover since I was 5 years old. A question! Are you a pilot or are you an aeronautical engineer?
And how can you fly so much? I also fly probably 5 or 6 times a year. Once a long haul rest domestically in the USA.
Glad that you found the video interesting :)
@@OnBoardHD thank you for answering …. I really like your videos …
Plane needed work but if the crew & service was good that is what counts because they can’t help the condition of the aircraft. 😮🙋🏼♀️👍🏻🇺🇸
I was really satisfied by the whole experience. Looking forward to fly with Egyptair again :)
Usually, EgyptAir has a new and advanced fleet of aircrafts, It's just your bad luck this time that you booked an old plane
How did you determine that APU was not functioning?
Nice video …. That looks lane was filthy😳 Food looked okay, you seemed to enjoy it, but you didn’t eat your veggies😏
They were quite dry hehe
Wow!
100K subscribers!
when did that happen
Thanks so much Rudi :)
What was the cruising altitude ?
Always travel with Egyptair its very nice 👌
My lord, the state of that old 737 was terrible, your a brave man to fly on that. I always wonder if the lack of maintenance on the inside is bad what is the aircraft on the outside like.
These things were just minor ones. I'm sure the maintenance of the plane is good.
I would have been very nervous the entire flight with the condition of the plane.(inside, and APU nor working makes me wonder what else was wrong) I'm glad you made it safe
Aquí esperando otro vuelo saludos desde Bolivia 🇧🇴 y desde cochabamaba luego otro vuelo para América del Sur en latam boeing 787 9 aeromexico boeing 787 9 avianca en boeing 787 9 boa boliviana de aviación boeing 767 300 copa airlines boeing 737-800
The guys shirt is about to explode in the front row at 3:13 😂😂
Este verano conocí bien Egyptair… vuelo de ida y vuelta Madrid Cairo y tres vuelos internos, todos en 737 excepto uno en A220-300. De la limpieza de los aviones qué decir… el COVID es lo menos grave que podías coger ahí dentro. Y el servicio de comidas (solo en los internacionales) tampoco era para tirar cohetes, al menos en mi opinión. A la vuelta había pollo, sí, en mi fila lo pedimos varios ¡y cada uno era distinto! Como si fueran las sobras de vuelos anteriores. También he de decir que al menos en los vuelos desde y hacia Madrid el 737 estaba equipado con IFE en cada asiento, que para un vuelo de algo más de 4h se agradece. Pero no espero repetir con ellos
jajaja Pues la verdad es que en mi caso, excepto el estado del avión, la experiencia fue satisfactoria...
The problem with those passengers is that they have never been hurt or injured but when the comes that they are, then they will rethink(hopefully) their attitude!!!!!! I remember many times asking for a second meal and rarely was I denied one and only then, because they did not have any extra!
We have flown Egypt Air many times over the years and we can only say that they have improved so much from 2001 when we first flew to this past November, 2022. Polite cabin crew ; if you speak slowly in English they understand first time; food was hot and good; seats were a little close to each other but our flight was only 7 hrs 45 mins from Johannesburg to Cairo which was an amazing time schedule. Don't take one person's comments on an airline to disqualify it !
If you would watch the full video, you would realize that I disqualify anything. The state of the cabin was a disgrace but the overall experience was good.
I don't even know why I answer comments like yours...
@@OnBoardHD well thanks anyway
With no a.p.u and the condition of the interior, not to mention the state of the windows, makes you wonder about their maintenance quality. Good job the catering was reasonable. Enjoyable video as always. All the best Mick🇬🇧
Well, to be honest, what we've seen in this video are just minor things and none is safey related... the APU can be inoperative for a number of days before the plane has to be grounded.
Glad that you've enjoyed the video! Next Saturday: Air France B777! :D
The window condition is not a safety issue at all, as an aviation enthusiast I definitely would like to see a clean window! But this plane fly a lot in sandy environment and that causes a lot of scratches, I myslef hate that my car window is scratched from the salt and sand that is used during the winter to make the roads safe. As a former airport worker, an operable APU is very common and does not cause any concerns what so ever, just the inconveniences for the pilot, ramp workers and the light delays for passengers.
I never had any issues with Egyptair at all. All I know is that there are few egypt haters who make lot of noise like you…
I would ban you directly for writing without checking anything before... but I prefer to ask you why don't you watch the video?
What I clearly say several times is that the whole experince was great, but the plane status was terrible. Which is the true, as you can watch also.
I usually fly on Egyptian the pilots are the best in the world
the onboard experience was good
Tengo hambre
🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇👍👍👍👍👍
What's that error sound at 21:04?
Woah I took SU-GDD (the same aircraft than you) the 5Th September 2022 😬
Hope you got some nice memories from your flight while watching this one! :D
@@OnBoardHD Yes I do 😀, by the way i was seated at 34K , on row behind you 😂
Y si por cualquier circunstancia se apagan los motores en pleno vuelo, de donde sacan la corriente para los hidráulicos y los instrumentos de vuelo???
El avión tiene 2 baterías de 30 minutos cada una.
Existen bombas eléctricas para el sistema hidráulico.
Hola Lucas, gracias por tu vídeo. me dejó preocupado lo del APU, no sé, es normal que un avión de una aerolínea cualquiera vuele con un instrumento inoperante, aunque pueda ser reemplazado en tierra por otro??? eso se acepta en todas partes o hay aerolíneas que son intransigente en el 100% de la operabilidad del avión??? Bueno aquí se ve que claramente se puede realizar el vuelo sin complicaciones, pero no me imaginaba que eso pudiese suceder. Un abrazo desde Santiago de Chile, América
Es algo normal, no habitual, pero si algo normal.
Todo avión tiene una lista de con todos los componentes que tiene (llamada MEL) en la que se informa de qué y cuántos elementos pueden estar inoperativos y por cuánto tiempo pueden estarlo antes de que ese avión no pueda volar más.
El APU, dentro de que como hemos visto en el vídeo, tiene bastante importancia, no es realmente esencial para la operativa del avión. El período máximo que un avión puede estar sin APU suele ser 120 días. Si bien, las aerolíneas lo suelen arreglar mucho antes que eso.
@@OnBoardHD Muchas gracias, Lucas. Un abrazo
Iran Air to Baghdad ? 😮
They mean't 33F not 33K . And also on Takeoff You Can Hear the Engines buzzsawing
No, the seat is 33K. Egyptair uses the same letters as for wide-body planes to be able to change between models without changing passengers seat preferences.
Pues el avión en malas condiciones de mantenimiento y el servicio abordo pues te dieron en tu mero mole , jajajaja frases de México, lo que más disfrutas la comida, saludos desdes Torreón Coahuila México
Lo cierto es que la comida de avión ha mejorado bastante en la última década. La gente que la critica ciegamente es aquella que con suerte hace 1 o 2 vuelos al año.
Tras más de 1.000 vuelos en m vida, puedo decir que a muchos restaurantes les gustaría tener la calidad de alguna comida que he tenido a bordo de algunas aerolíneas...
can you Fly to Beirut Lebanon with mea or Tarom or Turkish Airlines
Tarom is now like Austrian you need to Pay for food or Drink
Buen vídeo, pero no me esperaba un avión así de sucio y menos mal que lo compensan con la comida sino es para no volar mas con esa compañía que es evidente que deben mejorar muchos aspectos. No se que le pasaba a la APU pero deberían cambiar el avión hasta tenerlo operativo por otro. Un cordial saludo y buen finde.
El APU, aunque tiene mucha utilidad, no es para nada indispensable a corto plazo en un avión. Puede estar hasta 120 días inoperativa y el avión seguir volando sin casi restricciones. Si bien, todas las aerolíneas arreglan el APU mucho antes de esos 120 días.
Israel & Egypt El Al & Egypt air.
Yes, they are the flag carriers.
Well dirty and not good cabin maintenance, but good food and good crew.Maybe they didn't recover financially from the pandemic yet.
Seguramente el avión debe estar operando en rutas dentro de África donde las personas no soy muy dadas a cuidar lo ajeno, y donde la seguridad no es muy demandada, se compensó con el servicio de alimentos (muy superior a qué ofrecen las aerolíneas del continente europeo y americano) en rutas de misma duración. La compañia se puede decir que es de las mejorcitas en el continente africano, lejos del Ethiopian Airlines (que es la mejor del continente) tal vez a la par de la de Sudáfrica.
You didn't make a tour to the toilet?!
We have many Egyptians here in STATEN ISLAND NY...I need to ask them about their experiences. I would love to visit Egypt but I am very fussy about cleanliness. I cannot stand unhygienic planes and hotels
I wonder if the seats and carpet are deloused and treated with cleansing agents. Egyptians have a custom of removing their shoes while in church or mosque.
You missed the plane @14:07
Well… happy to see you had a good experience on Egyptair. I flew with them half a dozen times in 2022 work-related. And 5 out of 6 were really bad, especially in regards of crew service. On 2 flights the passengers even brought back their meal trays by themselves, because the crew just did not collected them over 2 hours after the meal service. Privately I will definitely not use them. But good that you had this rare good experience. Keep up the great trip reports! Greetings!
What good experience, the scratched windows, the dirty cabin, the poor seat condition?
True… The thumbnail just tells us… „Top Onboard Service“. So this seemed to be good, which I cannot agree on. Don’t know how Egyptair got its way into Star Alliance with this kind of service and these kind of planes 😅
Scartched window?? Really!! 🤣 Does this makes an airliner bad?? Any 14 years old airliner will be worse than this...
i don't think you have to clean first to desinfect, Details that make you think there are no controls.