Harry Potter: A Defense of Slytherin
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- Today we offer our defense of Slytherin, the most misunderstood house in Harry Potter. Plus, we sort some characters outside of Harry Potter into this house. Support ScreenPrism on Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=7792695
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Could you do a video about Hufflepuff please?
Can You Make More Videos On The Wire Please
Sherlock Holmes probably, but your Marvel pick could easily be Racenclaw.
The defensive use of Edmond Dantes is complete mischaracterization. Edmond is at the start brave, friendly and naive; and mostly likely a Hufflepuff or Gryffindor. it is only through the training of Faria that he learns to be as cunning and determined as he becomes. While all of Dante's enemies also show Slytherin type qualities as well... though Fernand's temper and passion could be characterized as a Gryffindor trait.
Please do hufflepuff.
Harry would make great Slytherin if he was raise right
Fun fact: Draco Malfoys wand has a unicorn hair core, which is the hardest to turn to the dark arts.
that's just mindblowing :O
Harvard: Yo u want a scholarship?
Finally someone..
I thought it was dragon heartstring
Ario Dewandaru Ollivander says in deathly hallows that it was unicorn hair
Unofficial Hogwarts house mottos:
Ravenclaw: Do what is wise
Gryffindor: Do what is right
Hufflepuff: Do what is good
Slytherin: "Do what is necessary"
edit: thank you all. I think this is the most likes I have ever received
And that is exactly why Ravenclaw and Slytherin are my favorite Houses
ELana, perfectly said
As a slytherclaw, I can confirm
And all of them might lead to completely different actions given the one scenario
I'm a slytherclaw a perfect combination in avoiding destruction in any situations, my personality type is an INTP.
One of the big reason Slytherins get hated so much is that J.K. didn’t even TRY to give us even a tiny bit of good till the very end
Ikr!!
Us as in Slytherin, I’m a Slytherin
Sooo soo trueee
But she did give us Andromeda Tonks (born Black), did she not?
Also, she gives us Horace Slughorn.
Ron: "There's not a witch or wizard who went bad who wasn't in Slytherin"
Me: *laughs in Peter*
even when everyone thought sirius was bad and knew he was a gryffindor no mention of that...
also quirrell👀
*laughs in quirrel*
It's not all Slytherin are bad
*Concisely, most of the Dealth Eaters and dark wizards are Slytherins*
Recently Harry Potter is famous again.
Why isn't no one talking about Narcissa Malfoy she literally saved Harry's life in the dark forest
I agree
fore her son's safety mainly.
Priya Sen i think they did in the las slytherin video
She saves his life to save her son. It's for her own well being, not out of the kindness of her heart.
@@Saimeren she could of just ratted him out when he told her but she didn't
The main problem is Rowling's own views on morality. She clearly personally thinks most, if not all, evil in the world is done out of ambition and cowardice, and so very rarely considers how the other house's key characteristics could be perverted into motivations for doing evil.
Would it be so hard to write an evil Ravenclaw, an evil Gryffindor, or even an evil Hufflepuff?
An evil Ravenclaw would be a person who values the pursuit of knowledge over ethical concerns. Basically the mad scientist archetype, conducting experiments on people - perhaps even "for the greater good." An evil Hufflepuff would be a person whose loyalty blinds them to being truly empathetic. Basically any prejudiced religious person who thinks that in-group = moral uprightness. And pray we never see an evil Gryffindor. Bravery can be a terrible thing if unhinged from a moral compass. Basically the Joker is a prime example of an evil Gryffindor. He's brave enough to do whatever he thinks is funny but has no regard for morals or even rationality.
JKR's evil Ravenclaws - Gilderoy Lockhart, Quirinus Quirrell
JKR's evil Gryffindor - Peter Pettigrew
JKR's evil Hufflepuff - ...you got me there
Whoa, I literally just posted something very similar on my facebook. Even used the Mad Scientist analogy. Joker is perfect as an example. Doctor Octavius for Ravenclaw. Hufflepuff, Todd from Breaking Bad. He is absolutely loyal to his family without a shred of empathy for those he kills. Walter White could maybe qualify but he's far more selfish.
Mengele, the nazi doctor who experimented on captives in Auschwitz, would be a perfect example of an evil Ravenclaw outside of Harry Potter.
@Draydin Bardon I honestly thought she was until I saw the question. I think shes more appropriate there then slytherin.
There are ravenclaw villains the very first dada teachers in the series, and for hufflepuff well there aren't villains stated to be hufflepuff but she has said that that's the house she admires the most, the closest thing we get in te series is Zacharias Smith, Who proved that hufflepuffs can be assholes too, the funny thing is that I think hufflepuff and Slytherin are the houses that resemble the most
I'm trying to think of a Slytherin character Rowling wrote who has a happy family life. Voldemort's mother raped his father with a love potion. Snape's father was abusive. Draco's parents were Death Eaters. Gryffindor, Ravenclaw, and Hufflepuff characters often are shown with supportive, loving parental figures (not exclusively, but often).
I identify with Slytherin characters because I come from a dysfunctional family. Many people do. I know as well as anyone that a brutal, do-whatever-it-takes attitude comes from surviving trauma.
Slytherins are survivors!
Very true.
Scorpius???
@Atria Laurent ok ok ok... you win... BUT HOW ABOUT ALBUS??? I HATE THE CURSED CHILD BUT HEY
@Atria Laurent Actually, For thw most part I see your point but it specifically says FAMILY life not including school and, if I remember correctly, Harry insures Albus it is alright to be put in Slytherin as it is not a bad house
@Atria Laurent I understand as I have been in his shoes, shadowed. But the fact that he already had a friend and made a friend immediately I fail to believe that he truly had a terrible life... Also another slytherin who had a bad FAMILY life was slughorn, Belatrix... They aren't students but former students
Benedict Cumberbatch's characters: Slytherin
Benedict in real life: Hufflepuff
He's very Ravenclaw
Nah, Ben is a total Ravenclaw. He can be mistaken as a Hufflepuff though.
Abhishek NS I wouldn’t say a total slytherin but definitely a bit he’s very ambitious like you said
@Abhishek NS whooooo I didn't know that
he is a ravenclaw
You failed to mention Merlin is a Slytherin
Nice
Merlin’s beard!
Funny and sad at the same time, they adore Merlin's figure the most, but they have prejuices against Slytherin. Ok 👍 (Well, I think prejuices just come after the Voldy thing, I like to think Slytherin was a more appreciated house before that).
@@arcangel4192 Damm
That's not possible since Merlin lived before Hogwarts was founded.
I know this was stated at some time by J.K. but it's still a massive hole in the lore. You can look that up.
There’s a very fine line between Slytherin and Gryfindoor, both have power, strength and honour but are presented in different ways
Plus, Slytherins are cool and calculating and Gryffindors are emotional and very impulsive
I took the official test twice and got both results^^
True, I don't understand how they can hate each other that much and yet be so similar
@@justemoi7610 Too many similarity can be the cause of hate.
@@hisokahimawari3756 True. Very true ! 🙂
Slytherin is the house with the most potential.
The most potential to succeed and the most potential to fall.
Why'd you have to read us like that, man
PlanYourLift i am a pisces and a slytherin so great?
Agreed
everyone eventually falls down their high horse. so :)
uhm yeah
JK: "It's really important we had characters like Cedric and Luna in the later books to show that people outside Gryffindor can be heroes too."
Also JK: GREEN ROBE BAD!!!
Copied
@@kirbydied2875 indeed, so what?
@@TheTokkie copied
She made Snape a hero, he's a Slytherin.
@Noon copied
Pointing out this forever, Merlin WAS Slytherin
Thereby making Slytherin the best house
What? Merlin was previous to Hogwarts
androkguz
It’s on pottermore that Merlin was a Slytherin
@@lolablake9196 yep, there goes another good guy for the snake pit and a big one
Hmm, I guess you are right.
I was under the impresion that Merlin predated Hogwarts, perhaps because the real myth of Merlin places him on the 500s and hogwarts was founded something like 8 centuries before the hp story.
It made me really mad when, in the last book, McGonagall called for all the students to help save Hogwarts EXCEPT the Slytherins. I love McGonagall, but I really didn't like her in that moment.
Leeh King
OMG I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE
I thought she had done it to save them pain, as their parents would be on the other side. Thanks for showing me another side.
Tbf a good amount of slytherin parents were death eaters and either A would have had to kill or fight their parents or B would have turned and fought against Hogwarts and the other houses. I mean look at crabbe goyle and malfoy they turned against hogwarts. Who's to say the other slytherins wouldnt have helped Voldemort as well?
Actually, that's incorrect. I think you've mistaken the movie scene for the book scene. McGonagall in the last book (Chapter 31: The battle of Hogwarts) is in fact evacuating the school, so she says:
“-evacuation will be overseen by Mr. Filch and Madam Pomfrey. Prefects,
when I give the word, you will organize your House and take your charges, in
an orderly fashion, to the evacuation point.”
“If you are of age, you may stay,”
"[...] I
must ask you, therefore, to move quickly and calmly, and so as your prefects-”
Then, Voldemort interrupts her when he speaks inside everyones minds. Pansy screams about handing Harry over and McGonagall invites HER to leave first, then the students from Slytherin house.
“Thank you, Miss Parkinson,” said Professor McGonagall in a clipped voice.
“You will leave the Hall first with Mr. Filch. If the rest of your House could
follow.”
Keep in mind, she's not excluding Slytherins or anything like that, she said earlier that anyone who's an adult can stay. As you can see by the fact that she proceeds to call the other houses name so they can follow the Slytherins.
“Ravenclaws, follow on!” cried Professor McGonagall.
But...only the Slytherin table was empty at the end (: Which means they didn't want to help. Not a single one of them. Ravenclaw students stayed, so did Hufflepuffs, but not Slytherins.
'Slowly the four tables emptied. The Slytherin table was completely deserted, but a number of older Ravenclaws remained seated while their fellows
filed out; even more Hufflepuffs stayed behind, and half of remained in their
seats, '
I think she did that cause some slytherin parents were death eaterd and ut would hurt them to fight against their own parents
Ravenclaw: Would FIND a way for BOTH of you to live
Gryffindor: Would DIE for you
Hufflepuff: Would DIE WITH you
Slytherin: Would KILL for you
I think the logic there follows that Slytherin would kill YOU
@@aceshighdueceslow the evil ones, yes. the good Slytherins would kill for their friends.
@@CamJames very true!
Cam James Exactly, like evil Gryffindors, Ravenclaws and Hufflepuffs would kill YOU.
Lorraine Cleverly how many evil members of those houses exist? No idea what that even means
When Pottermore had the chat options available, my Slytherin house mates were one of the most kindest and caring people out there.
Sally Ngo IK right ? My best friend is a Slytherin
Huh chats it isn't there anymore?
@@karissamarcano6698 that was probably the old version of pottermore
@@karissamarcano6698 Yeah, there were also games. They don't exist anymore
Old pottermore was the shit back then
Saying that most politicians would be Slytherin is not the right way to go if you want to defend Slytherin.
Right lol
Okay the fact that Patrick Bateman is your profile picture is killing me
killing hookers with a chainsaw and stabbing homeless people > being the reason why hookers and homeless people exist
You know what's worst than a Slytherin Politician? a Gryffindor Politician... you can do more harm to humanity for good reasons than good things for bad reasons.
I always thought the "reptilian" thing was a great metaphor, if only people would stop taking it literally.
Not a mention of Horace Slughorn, who duelled Voldermort himself and was actually a very good teacher (even if he did have favorites).
Slughorn wasn't really that good. He gave Tom Riddle info about horcruxes, and rather than admit his mistake, he just concealed the memory, to make it look like he hadn't given the info about horcruxes.
@@stony7347 which proves that he's really smart, considering that Tom Riddle referred to him for a very restricted piece of info. his playing favourites is his only downfall imo because he was blinded by his impression on Tom, thinking he's a very sweet and collected student that he freely gave away the info. he even described Horcrux as a very horrifying magic and got terrified when Tom asked about making 7 horcruxes, saying "isn't one murder bad enough?" or something like that.
I think he gave Ginny the recognition she deserves, so having favorites might not be a bad thing in its own
Every teavher has favorites, some just act on it more than others. Iv seen some in real life that were worse than slughorn. At least slugs faves were hardworking and deserved to be a fave. Gotta love the dumb as a brick jocks or class clowns that get to be teachers pet and get away with practically failing but "somehow" get passing grades or better in their fave teachers class. Get extensions on homework because they are lazy ect. Slughorn at least focused on good qualities like hard work, intelligence , and talent and didnt just go based on personality . sure he added famous people but thats different than popularity in school ( most had powerful parents, so it wasnt even their own fame , just by proxy)
@Esther V. not really, see mclaggen or that student with the beautiful mother (forgot the name)
the hat didn't even touch draco's head and he's like "yea this boi a slytherin."
Red hair weaslys
Plantinum blonde equals Malloy
Either that or that hat didn’t want that hair grease on them
Lice?
And the funny thing is I don't found much (or any) Slytherin traits in him. He is a one-note bullying blood purist prat and even in the last 2 books he was still to some extent one note. Jkr wanted to create a small antagonist and she created draco and his gang as cliche rivals.
In fact golden trio showed more slytherin traits than draco showed ever.
And to think he would end up un Hufflepuff lol , the hair says a lot! 🐍
it didnt want to ruin his hair im guessing-
Even just the little fact that one Harry's sons is a slytherin, and that they all accept it and don't view it as a bad thing and that also he becomes a friend of Malfoy's son shows us that slytherin isn't a bad house.
Bruh, that wasnt even made by JK and she probably just allowed it to be released because we all KNEW she hates us.
"I'm not a psychopath I'm a highly functioning sociopath. Do your research." Oof an intelligent, cold burn
Theuncreativeyoutube but he has misdiagnosed himself as a sociopath wouldn’t say he’s one or care for people.
One might call that a freezer burn
@@pizzatime1107 actually I think he misdiagnosed himself too
He’s not a sociopath though, as everyone else has said.
Finish the sentence...
"A high functioning sociopath, that solves crime as a healthier alternative to getting high"
;)
Yeah, yeah, Slytherins are amazing and all that. But look! Harry Potter just breathed!
500 points to Gryffindor! ;) xD
LMAO hello fellow ravenclaw
You just described my live with my old math teacher. "Karina, yeah, you were good but you have a 3+" (You had to raise your hand more then 7 times in a lesson to get a 1- and I raised it much more in every lesson) "Oh! Other student! You raised your hand one time and said bullshit! 1+++++!"
LMAO
Wow ..... OK then
Lmao
Slytherins, like serpents, are misunderstood. Snakes get a bad rep for being symbols of evil, cunning and craftiness but they are also symbols of wisdom, healing and rebirth. Remember what the snake was tempting Eve with in the Garden of Eden; knowledge. They value intelligence like Ravenclaws but utilise it differently. Ravenclaws value intelligence and learning for their own sake but Slytherins use these traits to their advantage, as tools to get what they want. So they're a house of ambitious hard workers. Draco is also a good representation of the snake being a symbol for rebirth. He may initially be bad or at least be on the path towards darkness but in the end, he chooses the right side and is born anew, much like how a snake would shed its skin.
Slytherins also tend to be perceived as treacherous much like their animal symbol but the truth is, Slytherins are very loyal, a characteristic they share with Hufflepuffs. Slytherins always look after their own and stick together. That kind of camaraderie may be harder to find in the more competitive houses such as Gryffindor and Ravenclaw.
The Slytherin part of the Hogwarts motto is "do what is necessary" and we see some Slytherins in the story make the ultimate sacrifice in order to do what is necessary. As the video mentions Snape willing to be perceived as a villain to do good, Leta Lestrange gives her own life to defend Newt and his brother in the battle with Grindlewald in the second Fantastic Beasts movie. Like Snape, Leta was bullied by those who expected the worst from her because of her family and the House she was sorted into.
Slytherins don't have an image problem, the other Houses have a prejudice problem. I say all this as a proud Hufflepuff who has an equally proud Slytherin sister. :)
Scottish Prince Thank you your one comment is a better defense than this video
@@dark_magicks4437 Very kind of you to say, thank you. :)
Aww that is so beautiful thank you I feel much more appreciated about being a slytherin now 🤘💜
@JNike This is only true if you accept the religious interpretation as correct. God wanted Adam and Eve to remain ignorant so only he would know good and evil. If you are a lover of knowledge and science then the story takes on a darker meaning. It becomes about a supreme being who wants to keep all knowledge for himself and keep his creations subservient and ignorant. Wanting knowledge is not an evil act but if you are religious, it is because religious organisations, like their God, want to keep followers ignorant and dependent on the organisation for how to live their lives. It's all about control, Knowledge sets you free.
@JNike Jesus, this is a fucking Harry Potter video. Will you settle the fuck down please? There really is no need to rant this way. All I did was make an innocent comment defending Slytherin House. Go rabble on about your religion elsewhere.
During the early days of Pottermore, I almost cried when I got sorted into Slytherin. My mental state at the time wasn’t the best so I couldn’t really handle being labeled as “evil”. But the more I learned about Slytherin outside the black and white dichotomy of the novels, the more I began to identify with the house.
I am loyal to the death to those who love me. I will work hard to succeed, especially to spite those who said I can’t. I hang back and analyze a situation instead of rushing in headfirst. And I’m not above using morally dubious tactics to reach my goals. I am a Slytherin and I am proud of my house.
Same, gosh I was so disappointed with myself
@@carolinamadronalmachero7583 y'all gotta relax. this isn't real man
@@CamJames ik🤣 I was like fourteen and it was just unexpected. Obviously it not rela, it is pure fun
@@CamJames facts
I was also appalled that I was also sorted in Slytherin. Because I really wanted to be in Ravenclaw. My favourite colour is blue. XD So I went ahead and made another account to purposely end up in Ravenclaw. XD 2 years ago, I went to Universal Studios Japan and bought a Slytherin robe and Voldemort’s wand. It was time that I embraced my real self. XD
Loki, textbook Slytherin. Cunning, morally complex, fan favorite character.
Or a Ravenclaw
Oh, yeah!
@@hopesy12u4 Loki, a Ravenclaw ? Just no
@jhardell: well he kinda does prize intellect and knowledge over brute strength... and just like professor quirrel, he did want to prove a point to the people he knew.
The difference is a Ravenclaw would value knowledge itself but a Slytherin would only view it as a tool to achieve his goals. Loki is definitely Slytherin.
Slytherin save the school ?
10 POINT TO GRIFFIN DOOR
this made me laugh more than it should. *then cries in Slytherin*
LMAOOOO
It’s only because they are Dumbledore’s favourite and Harry Potter is in it
Lmao I'm crying
I'm sorry but it's *Gryffindor
Maybe the problem is we frame “success” as in direct conflict with morality. -A Ravenclaw
Slytherin here. I agree.
@JNike of course it's not. If your goals involve helping people and having a positive impact on the world then succeeding would be an obvious good thing: no one sees a surgeon with a 98% success rate and says, "way too many of this guy's patients are surviving -- the monster!"
By the same token, there's nothing inherently noble about throwing oneself into danger. Certainly there are many times when great courage is necessary to be able to help people, (be it others or yourself), but if you're just lobbing yourself out there, without any real inkling of improving the situation, you're not even really trying to help anyone -- you're just trying to make yourself feel better.
@@eyesofthecervino3366 That's not how real life works thought. Doctors are not angels reincarnated, they are humans and have darksides. You don't know what some have done to become a surgeon. And you have to get that cold side (almost apathetic) if you want to be able to perform surgery and other medical interventions.
Did you just quote yourself? Lmao
Nū Gira Seriously? It’s just a drawing...
Another Slytherin type in Game of Thrones is Margaery Tyrell,with her cunning, craftiness, and awesome manipulation skills all to acquire the Iron Throne to raise her family's reputation
I was waiting for them to gives us the female Tyrells to give us some good press, but nope.
Daenerys, Cersei and Margaery are so slytherin I love it but I hate they all ended the way they did...
Disagree.
I'd say:
Margaery: ravenclaw
Cersei: slytherin
Daenerys: griffindoor
Petyr Baelish Is the perfect Slytherin
Even Alan Rickman himself once said that he would be a Slytherin! And he is definitely not a bad guy!
Love the profile photo 😍
Was not*
K K beat me to it.
May he, one of the best and essential parts of our childhood stories rest in peace.
Has anyone ever considered the thought of the 4 houses representing the 4 elements?
Gryffindor is Fire, Hufflepuff is Earth, Ravenclaw is Air and Slytherin is Water.
This is even represented in their dorm locations. The Gryffindor common room is supposed to be the warmest looking with lots of fire places. Hufflepuff is located near the kitchen (food = earth). Ravenclaws are located in the highest tower, as far as I remember, and Slytherins are down in the dungeons beneath the black lake. They even have this aquarium like wall.
Even the characteristics of the elements would fit. Fire is impulsive, but warm(hearted). Earth is grounded and natural. Air stands for freely living minds. Water is calm and strong at the same time and always finds its way.
And in witchcraft there are also special crafts representing the elements.
Fire - transformation/creation (McGonagall is teacher for transformation)
Earth - spells including plants and herbs (Sprout is teaching herbology)
Air - all kind of spells (Flitwick, technically)
Water - potion making (Snape)
The house mascots fit as well.
Just a thought tho :D
Edit: I've read a few comments that said JKR could have actually confirmed this already 🤔 if it is so, my bad 😅 I'm neither on Twitter nor permanently on the Internet.
OMG that is the best theory that I have ever heard!!! You should make more theories!!!
I figured that this is the case with some of the pottermore questions so I think that’s canon or at least the water answers lead to Slytherin.
But everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked.
(Sorry didn't even read the original comment, I had to say it)
I mean, obviously. I'm pretty sure Jo had confirmed this years ago.
The houses also correlate to the four medieval humours:
Ravenclaw= Melancholic
Hufflepuff= Phlegmatic
Gryffindor= Sanguine
Slytherin= Choleric
What I want to see in future Potterverse films:
- Ending of Gryffindor is good, Slytherin is bad dichotomy
- A Ravenclaw as a main protagonist.
Basically a Ravenclaw dealing with Gryffindor and Slytherin's bull. . . . .
. . I would like to see that.
They've done the former enough really. There's plenty of redemption for Slytherin, even in the 8th book (though we all prefer to pretend it doesn't exist). So yeah.
The latter though, yes please.
"This most misunderstood house tends to be written off as mean, prejudiced or just plain evil"...you know... by the author of the book
No creo que sea un error, más bien que como le ha pasado en muchas cosas de su carrera, la historia y el mundo de Harry Potter no era tan complejas ni tan desarrolladas como fueron más adelante, que ha tenido mas tiempo de ampliarlo y ella misma ha crecido como escritora y persona. En los primeros libros, sobre todo, slytherin no cumplen otra función narrativa que ser los malos y apenas se les da trasfondo más allá de eso. En ese momento la historia no era un mundo, sólo la historia de un crío que necesitaba compañeros de colegio que se metieran con él y esa es la función que cumplió por mucho tiempo Slytherin. Ahora que Harry Potter es algo mucho más grande que los libros originales es cuando de verdad le ha interesado desarrollar las otras tres casas que en los libros tienen una aparición muy limitada y sesgada.
draco deserved better. in the first year when he met harry and asked to be his friend, he wanted harry to say yes because he admired harry so much. he was young and forming your own opinions apart from your parents is something every person at his age does but also to be in a family with so much pressure and very traditional opinions that are rarely questioned, makes what he said in the movies make more sense. he joins the death eaters out of fear and the thought that he can't do anything differently. this starts to be explored in the half blood prince in the bathroom scene but it is quickly screwed up by jk. after the battle of hogwarts (which, btw, is almost ruined for me bc the whole no slytherins helped thing is obviously very biased by jk) when draco is together with his mother and father its (i believe) stated that they probably wanted to just stay alive. there are so many things that point to draco not being as bad as described at all and even though jk points out multiple times that people aren't black and white, her points are kind of lost because while she keeps saying this she never explores story lines that show this well. the only one she ever really explores is snape and even that's not that well done. this is just my opinion rly and its kinda stupid bc i get so riled up about this even though its just a series of books & movies lol but it could've been done a lot better
you're right. the malfoys realised that the had chosen the wrong side and just wanted to survive. malfoy had a mental crisis, his father went to prison and everyone expected him to step in his father's position between the deatheaters. harry humiliated him often in front of other people, he even stalked him: "something happened - it must be malfoy!". what the fuck. you know what really upsets me in the battle of hogwarts?? that all slytherins were sent to the dungeons, like prisoners. I mean ALL of them were punished. ALL OF THEM. even the little first graders. what the fuck McGonnagall??!
@@cherry7590 It's probably because the death eaters were mostly their relatives or family friends if not their parents. Idk about you guys but I wouldn't fight my mom in the battefield. I'll be hesistant hence I could get hurt. What's the point of joining a war if you won't fight in it? Plus, most children in the Slytherin house are traditional and most likely pure-blooded, thus they would probably value family rather than morals. Not to mention that one of Slytherin's traits is self-preservation so it's kinda understandable why they won't or be hesitant to fight. While it may be true that some students are willing to fight righteously, the teachers thought it was best to just hoard them all in one group given JK's impression of the Slytherin's "evil" nature.
Don't get me wrong, I'm Slytherin, myself, but I kinda understand where the teachers are coming from. It's basically to just avoid adding more to the death eater army.
@@cherry7590 well, in all fairness, much more often than not (obviously especially in HBP) Harry was absolutely right in Draco being involved in nefarious activity (even if we don't fully realize at the time this is out of a genuine desire by Draco to be evil).
But I will agree, all of the Slytherins being categorically sent to the dungeons was really messed up. Only really a few people were quick to pool up with whatshername when she shouted out for them to grab Harry to turn him over.
@@cherry7590 That Slytherins to the dungeons thing only happened in the movie. In the book, all the Slytherin students evacuated from the school before the Battle, but several of them later returned to defend the school during the second phase of the Battle of Hogwarts.
@@cherry7590 I don't mean to argue, but there weren't any first graders since they all start school at 11
Not even a word about the real hero of Slytherin? The real hero, which name is Regulus Arcturus Black?
He wasn't particularly ambitious or intelligent. He was just an obedient boy who happened to be brainwashed by his parents and later got back his moral compass right it's nothing heroic
who?
Achyuth Thouta yes but without him, the whole storylines of books would be changed completely.
Regulus died to retrieve the locket back and unlike Voldemort, he didn't make Kreacher drink all the torture water, he drunk it himself
Regulus also knew that he couldn't apparate from the cave but only Kreacher could as a house elf
Hah ?!
I've always hated how it was basically the fandom's job to justify for Slytherin. Like as an author JK Rowling basically just made everyone believe that Slytherins were evil and never specified that this is a good person and they are in Slytherin. We're just scrambling for names here at this point.
- A pissed off Slytherin who doesn't like that everyone assumes that we're fucking evil.
I disagree.
I mean at first Harry's only references are Hagrid, Ron , two people he trusts who are notoriously anti Slytherin. The first Slytherin he met was Draco, and Snape.
Neither are likely to make a good first impression.
However with each entry we're proven wrong.
For example,
Snape was trying to cast a counter spell. And the villain was a Ravenclaw.
It was a pure blood Gryffindor who opened the chamber of secrets. It was Ginny, not any Slytherin
Peter pettigrew, the villain was a Gryffindor not Slytherin
Once again Pettigrew played a key part in Voldemort having a new body.
R.A. B! Need I say more
Professor Slughorn, as abusive Snape was ,he did play a part in saving the wizarding world.
Astoria Green grass, a pure blood Slytherin who actually led to Draco stop being a bratty jerk.
And of course Harry's character development. He went from not Slytherin to house Slytherin will have gained an excellent young wizard.
In fact the ghost of house Slytherin was a tragic and misunderstood figure. He committed suicide because in his anger he killed his mentor's daughter.The chains he wraps himself in are his way of punishing himself for all eternity.
This comment is giving me life!!!There wasn't a single "good" Slytherin student in the Trio's entire time at Hogwarts SMH
That's very minimal amar.
Rubius Black, Snape, Slughorn, Narsissa, Andromeda. These are good complex slytherines.
@@percyweasley9301 wouldn't really count snape and narsissa.
Honestly if I was to attend hogwarts I’d want to be in slytherin.
Me too they seem with it
They’re too biased against, I’d rather be in Hufflepuff since they’re largely ignored.
I’d either assert my dominance over some of the first years and then when their asses need saving I’m swooping in to save them lmfao
Me too
J.k rowling set slytherin up to be hated tbh
Then she created Professor Slughorn to show that not all Slytherin members are bad, but at that point it was too late.
yes true
@@mechajay3358 slughorn was pretty bad imho, extremely cowardly, defining his value by the reputations of people he knows. a real slimeball.
@@ronan_42 Um no he's not. If you remember from the book when he was told to escort the Slytherins out of the school, he came bright back immediately to help the rest of the Hogwarts students/teachers against the death eaters. He's not a coward or slime ball, He represents the good quality of the Slytherin house.
thats the thing about rowling, she wrote an amazing world in the books but her writing itself is not as amazing
It's interesting to note how Benedict Cumberbatch's most iconic roles are Slytherins.
He's been typecasted :(
Sherlock Holmes. The conceited, troubled, and brilliant Alan Turing who shows great capacity for love. A conflicted, kind, yet hypocritical slave owner in the Antabellum South in 12 Years a Slave. Dr. Strange. Smog. The list goes on. One anti-Slythetin character he played was a pure hufflepuff character in the movie, August Osage County.
Sherlock always struck me as a Ravenclaw to be honest
I still think SHerlock as Ravenclaw. Yes, he has Slytherin traits, but his core value is curiosity and wisdom.
Josh Rivers Who did Benedict Cumberbatch play as a Slytherin? If it's Voldemort that you mean, then no. That was Ralph Fiennes. I can see the resemblance, tho.
I always saw Slytherins as being, at their core, survivalists. They are kind and loyal as any other house, but they have a primary concern of enduring and adapt to any chaos and coming out on top.
Slytherins that ended up good/okay
1. Albus Potter (from the Cursed child, which isn't canon, so idk if it counts.)
2. Severus Snape (do I even need to explain this one?
3. Draco Malfoy (he ended up helping harry when it came to it)
4. Merlin ( I realize he wasn't in Hogwarts, but if he was in Hogwarts, and was alive at the time, he would have been in Slytherin )
5. Horace Slughorn (he didn't want to fight on moldy Voldy's side, so he didn't. He taught at Hogwarts when Dumbledore asked because he knew that he would be protected from the death eaters)
6. Narcissa Malfoy (she may have only helped harry because she wanted to know if Draco was alive, but she said harry was dead, when he clearly wasn't, nonetheless. Moldy voldy would've killed harry if she said he was alive.)
7. Regulus Black (he tried to destroy the locket)
And a ton more, but I'm tired of typing
Hi People Actually Merlin was a slytherin.
Hi People Cursed Child is canon.
I agree with everyone on this list except snape
If you're gonna mention Albus (Potter) mention Scorpius as well :)
LMAOOOO SEVERUS SNAPE IS NOT A GOOD PERSON
You left off one very important non Potter verse Slytherin... Bruce Wayne.
Iron man is a Slytherin too and I'd say even doctor strange is a slytherin
@B Jones Spiderman is a Ravenclaw for sure
@B Jones Not sure about MCU Spiderman but the Spidey in the comics is without a doubt, Ravenclaw
@B Jones You are forgetting that his primary and most important has always been acceptance. He not only accepted his responsibility as Spiderman but also embraces it. Acceptance is a Ravencalw trait although it's very rarely mentioned. But it's also Spidey's most important trait. He's proud of being Spiderman . He gave up all his happiness for being Spiderman. It might seem like a Hufflepuff trait but no, it's a Ravencalw trait. And it's not just about what traits you have , it's also about what traits you value. Spiderman was always reluctant about joining the avengers and never favoured teamwork. I can't see him in Hufflepuff at all. Also he is very witty , intelligent , creative .
Achyuth Thouta I’d say Doctor Strange is more of a ravenclaw though
It’s been implied that Sirius was the only Black to not be sorted in Slytherin, so Andromeda and Mr. Weasley’s mother would have been Slytherin. I’ve always theorized that Moody was in Slytherin. Let’s not forget Slughorn, also like with Harry I wouldn’t be surprised if the hat would have considered Slytherin for Dumbledore.
sirius was the only black but andromeda was his couison and mr weasley are related to siruis but they are not a black they just distintly related
Andromeda WAS a Black. She only became Andromeda Tonks after marrying Ted Tonks. Arthur is a Weasley, but he is half Black through his mother.
Dumbledore lacked Slytherin’s ambition and selfishness, at least in his later years
@@tomrovny8717 When has it ever been said selfishness is a Slytherin trait?
@@tomrovny8717
He didn't. He almost betrayed his brother and sister to find the deathly Hallows.
This is why I love fanfiction. Ron is a chess grandmaster; Hermione has a vicious revenge streak a mile long and Harry..... well..... he would have done well in Slytherin ;)
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Also, Princess Tiana from Princess and the Frog is absolutely a Slytherin.
Kieran Vreeland that movie was like: finally a princess who knows what she wants besides a man xD well maybe apart from mulan!
@@purplemind93 Belle Did't Want A Man: She Just Wanted To Get Out Of Her Small-Minded Village That Hates Women. Hell,Even Cinderella Did't Care About The PRINCE: She Just Wanted To Go To The Grand Ball That Everyone But Her Was Allowed To Attend (Understandable,Since Her Life Was Basically Being A Slave).
@@JT5555 yeah, forgot about belle! love her
@@purplemind93 Belle IS Pretty Great.
@@purplemind93 lol
If the books actually went in depth on more Slytherin students would've been great. There is no way there isn't a whole faction, no matter how small, of Slytherins in Hogwarts who despise the whole fascist genocidal thing going on in their house, especially the halfblood ones. And they would be great, all that ambition and cunning directed to antagonizing the wannabe death eaters on their "side". Probably would be more outspoken about their bullshit than any other house.
I agree. I was actually really upset in the last battle when McGonagall locked the Slytherins away just cuz they were Slytherins.
Some one somewhere, probably tumblr, wrote an amazing essay about how different the books could have been by including more Slytherins in the plot against Voldemort.
(I just tried looking for it but couldn't find it)
A whole faction, purportedly, and yet not a single one of them forms an alliance outside the house to combat it. All these supposed grand strategists and none of them realizes the values of alliances?
@@tom_curtis exactly, nor do any of them publicly refute the blood purity that the children of death eaters espouse. They just let shit slide.
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Well that brought us to Slytherins defining traits, here is how I imagined them: Those who are not brainwashed by the racist, entitled nazi ideas are likely the true Slytherins who took pride in their status but are sane about it. Because of their ambitious, conservative and prideful nature, it is unlikely for them to selflessly stand up against unjust, to them this is reckless and foolish for it will bring the trouble to themselves when the unjust was not directed to them in the first place. They might not agree with with the death eater wannabes and think they are crazy but most of them won’t openly go against them because their families behind them have long histories of interactions and connections (pure blood families, like ancient period noble families, tend to linked by marriage and other interests so things will get complicating, I actually hope Rowling expand on this) so they need to maintain at least a surface level harmony. However, these students are sheltered in Hogwarts and it is unlikely that they’ve experienced the horror of the death eater campaign first hand, if these fraction of non-death eater wannabes got a real sense of the horror of Voldemort’s campaign, I doubt they will remain silent then. They might be prideful, snobby, and apathetic, but in front of true destructive evil, they will make the right choice, a great example being Regulus Black. To tell the truth, a Slytherin will never be a hero or a “good” person, but they have the potential to be a compelling, complex character that we can root for.
And that brings us back to thensaying that you show what you support, by what you do not oppose.
Regulus Black is the most heroic one in Slytherin imo. He was brought up in such a way in his home that he went to the dark side thinking it's the right side. But his own conscience was most important and he understood how evil Voldemort could be after knowing about the horcrux.
He didn't want people to suffer in the hands of someone so evil n so invincible. So he made a big big sacrifice of his life. Respected the life of his house elf so much that took the pain potion himself, died trying to save the Innocents of the wizarding world n he accepted the death.
He went ahead knowing the outcome would kill him or anyway he'd be killed by Voldemort even if he survives the cave. A young guy taught about pureblood supremacy whole life makes the conscious decision to sacrifice his life so that a pureblood supremacist can't become invincible n harm Innocents.
He had no good moral compass influencers in his surroundings his parents n siblings all supported Voldemort n we're proud of him joining death eaters. Sirious was no longer living with them. Yet the young guy had it in himself to realise how evil the dark side is and has the courage n moral sense to want to correct it. He's the best Slytherin imo
wasn't merlin a slytherin?
Yes! 👏
everyone is talking about Snape and forget about Regulus. Snape wasnt raised by a racist pureblood family, unlike Regulus, and still he was a total jerk and a fucking racist. He would not have acted against Voldemort if it would not have been because of Lilly, which is just plain stupid. Voldemort murders entire families - who gives a shit. Voldemort kills the girl that friendzoned him years ago - OMG WHY
Yes thank you!!!!
@@cherry7590 omg ive been looking for this everywhere
I find it funny that JK's "good" Slytherin characters always redeemed themselves through griffyndorish courage, not through their own prized qualities. I still have yet to find a Slytherin character whose very core qualities is what shaped their world for the better (like in real life as said by this video). Though I understand that JK values courage and that is the virtue that she wants to impart to the readers/viewers.
PS: Case in poinrt: RAB, whom i see as a heroic slytherin who had story potential (esp in light of book 7) than what he was given in the books. In canon, He died with courage and redeemed himself through it (and that is heroic) but if JK wanted to show that Slytherin cunningness and self-preservation is just as good as Griffyndorish courage and honour, she could have RAB survive his ordeal in the cave and hid throughout the years until Voldemort's ressurrection (a slytherin quality). I think a surviving RAB will put the Slytherin qualities to shine and will be that unknown wild card in book 5-7 esp with his knowledge on horcruxes (how frustrating it is when you go hunt for horcruxes only to find out that half of them were taken by this mysterious RAB?)
This. So much this. I really hate this that for slytherin characters to redeem themselves they have to be like Gryffindors or imitate there traits. And only one bad Gryffindors pettigrew is mostly seen as sorted wrong by the fandom. Most people in the fandom consider him an honorary slytherin.
Same
@@ananyasharma7463 Also about peter : exactly! It's like bad = slytherin
I don't think you're being fair. In the entire story, clearly Rowling wants us to realise that strongest qualities are moral courage, and loyalty, over anything else. So when anybody does anything good, they tend be courageous and/or loyal and thus to us readers, they seem "Gryffindorish" (or "Hufflepuffish").
Slytherin's highlight quality is cunningness and ambition, and both are very...unreliable qualities. When somebody is ambitious and cunning, you never know if they'll turn on you (which is why the best house to have a friend from is Hufflepuff, and imo Hufflepuff is the true anti-Slytherin).
But the real question is, why do we consider ANY sort of bravery to be Gryffindorish? Gryffindor's hallmark bravery is often cited to be reckless and relentless. But Slytherin's bravery, is different.
Slytherin's Snape didn't outright act recklessly. He bid his time, became a double agent, and was thus far more valuable in defeating Voldemort. A gryffindor would probably just go and try to attack Voldemort headfast, which would be pretty stupid to do when a wizard is at the peak of his power.
Slytherin's RAB didn't outright face Voldemort when he realised that Voldemort's aims don't align with his. Instead, he did so in a way that Voldemort would be tricked, misled (hallmark of Slytherin's cunningness used for good in this case).
Slytherins' Narcissa Malfoy doesn't act foolhardy. She bids her time.
The biggest evil most Slytherins have consistently had to overcome are themselves. And even the four most Slytherin-like Gryffindors (imo), ie Harry, Sirius, Peter and Percy, all had to overcome their own darknesses more than anything else (in Harry's case, quite literally so).
Slytherins like Snape, Draco, Narcissa, Slughorn, RAB, all first overtook their own darknesses. Once they've done that, they are practically indistinguishable from Gryffindors except in their subtlety.
--- sincerely, from a proud Gryffindor.
... you know... there is a fanfiction with your exact premise. RAB knocks on Snape's door at the start of Order of the Phoenix with a trimmed beard and a stiff neck and went "yo what's up former hook up Voldemort has seven horcruxes and I've already destroyed five of them, you got any poisons I could borrow?" And everyone else has to deal with that for the next twenty chapters.
That moment when the least popular house, Hufflepuff, is appreciated more than the second most prevalent of all.
I'm sorry, Slytherins. We Hufflepuffs care for you too.
you definitely sound like a hufflepuff ahah
Hufflepuffs and Slytherins tend to become friends, I think.
Hufflepuffs are the ones able to recognize good in Slytherins and not judge them, while Slytherins respond well to and appreciate the gentleness and warmth of Hufflepuffs. Hufflepuffs are maybe the only persons around whom Slytherins feel safe enough to let down their guard and show their hidden sensitivity.
And both of them are intensely loyal to persons they care about.
it really bothers me how rowling perceives morality. she seems to believe that pretty much all evil is done out of ambition and wimpiness, and that all slytherin’s are the same. which is of course absolutely wrong. being a slytherin myself i don’t believe in following traditions (pure blood’s are superior etc) like the majority of slytherin’s we see in the books and movies. i prefer to be open to new ideas and changes.
she also seems to give us zero redeemable characters other than snape, and hates the fact that we love draco so much. but she doesn’t understand that draco is one of the most relatable characters in the book series; feeling pressure by his parents like most teenagers.
rowling gives gryffindors, ravenclaws and (sometimes) hufflepuffs all this love, but would it have really been so difficult to throw in an evil gryffindor/ravenclaw/hufflepuff? i know gryffindor has peter pettigrew, but his role was small and it’s often pushed under the rug when gryffindors are being talked about. however the first person people think of when slytherin’s are mentioned is almost always either draco or voldemort. it certainly isn’t a good look, and it easily gives the other houses something to use against us. ravenclaws have lockhart? i guess? but he’s mostly, if not always, forgotten about.
basically, i wish she had given slytherin’s more love, and not outright hated them.
Well put
Regulus Black was kind of a redeemed character. Someone who saw what was going on and eventually said "Enough."
@@Taymanator0051 and yet his redeeming act is a gryffindor's ideal death situation (destroying a horcrux and knowing that he may die, but he still did it anyway). That's not slytherin self-preservation and strategic thinking, that's an act of gryffindor courage. But it was tolerable for me, considering his namesake.
Regulus Black and Snape had redeemable characteristics. They were complex and very interesting.
Thats Hufflepuff for you.
*Slytherin:"Breathes"*
*Everyone:"WTFFF"*
Harry: *breaths*
Dumbledor: 50,000 POINTS TO GRIFFINDOR.
Me: *breaths*
Nothing happens... 😔👊🏻
omg 😂😂😂
"Mentions Snape"
They're coming...
*hears running* the Snape good-Snape bad war is starting, run, hide your family and *DON'T* TURN BACK!
As a Potterhead who was sorted into Slytherin via Pottermore, I really appreciate this video.Thank you.
Taking this elements we can theorize that probably Dumbledore was in the "wrong" house, just like Harry or Hermione, who decided to be in Gryffindor rather than Slytherin or Ravenclaw. Why I'm saying this? Because Dumbledore play a long game, with strategy and cold blodness against Grindewald during his youth and Voldermort during the time where the 7 books take place. We have to agreed on this, Dumbledore is a full Slytherin...
Dumbledore is also very generous, distributing points whenever possible, he's always willing to sacrifice himself for others and he often takes sides with the weak, besides possessing a phoenix. His strategy is not like a Slytherin's, that disregards the means to obtain an end, instead, he considers all sacrifices needed to be done into account. I think he's mostly Gryffindor. A strategist one, sure, but still a Gryffindor at heart.
Eddye Weber except for the fact that he sacrificed everyone around him to get what he wanted. That’s cunning. He pretty much bred Harry to die, and manipulated him in the books and only told him half truths to get him to act like he wanted. He wasn’t fair because he needed Harry to always be at Hogwarts - anyone else would have been expelled - and he would send him back to the Dursley’s knowing damn well he could’ve protected him himself.
We also know that he was in Grindewalds side until he changed his mind and they were supposed to do all that “greater good” shit together. Until his sister got killed because of him. Dumbledore is def a very ambitious and cunning person. He’s also brave b that’s that.
Lockjaw I’m saying that he should not have been a Gryffindor, not that he wasn’t lol.
Lockjaw that’s your opinion. I’m expressing mine
@@erweber I think Dumbledore fits more with Slytherin than Gryffindor. I used to think the opposite when I was a young kid because my impression of him came from reading Harry's perspective of the sweet kindly old man worthy of nothing but hero worship. Then the books took off our rose coloured glasses and we got to see him for who he is as flaws and all. Him giving out points wasn't generous; he cheated other kids in other houses out of a year of hard earned points just so that his old house could win. Those kids studied hard to answer questions in class and practiced their work and tries to behave to win points for their house. Then Dumbledore shits on their hard work to award exactly the amount needed for Gryffindor to win despite knowing that it was unfair to the rest of the school and that he was awarding points for behaviour worthy of being expelled. I don't know about sacrificing himself for others either. I've seen him sacrifice himself when he knew he couldn't outrun death anyways and I've seen him put himself in harm's way against opponents weaker than him. I'd say one thing he had in common with Voldermort himself is that he took magical measures to avoid death...til he lived for over 6 centuries. Doesn't seem like the actions of a brave man to run from death century after century. Honestly siding with the weak could be any house including Slytherin. We don't need to be surrounded only by people with power and influence as long as we can amass it for ourselves. And lastly, Slytherins have been given a bad name in this series but there is no one type of Slytherin strategy. Once it achieves the desired goal, any strategy can work for us and Dumbledore certainly was a strategist even in the afterlife he was still moving chess pieces. Even the way he set up his final will and testament was some sneaky, cunning Slytherin level planning. Unfortunately, JKR approached the Houses idea in a very narrow-minded way that pigeonholed humanity in a way that wouldn't work in real life. As much as Dumbledore would make a great Slytherin, she has no idea how to write a main character from that house who isn't a slimy, criminal, bully or abuser. Her idea of the perfect grandfatherly figure could never be from the villain house because you just can't have ambition, strategy, gentleness and kindness inside you all at once. The way she wrote the Houses, her audience and Harry could never trust Dumbledore if he were an ex-Slytherin and that's how you know the writing lacked nuance when it came to Houses .
Don't forget, Loki is a Slytherin. He's my fav character tho :")
Different universes kid
Chan Ai and Emma Frost don't forget her.
Green? ✔
Snakes? ✔
Tricks? ✔
YuP.
Loki even wears Slytherin colors, whereas Thor wears Gryffindor colors lol
Is he thou?
I think the most important factor in deciding a house isn't you qualities, it's your values. That's why Wormtail ended up in Gryffindor. He wasn't brave, but he did value bravery. What Slytgerin values is success. What Gryffindor values is resilience. What Hufflepuff values is justice. What Ravenclaw values is distinction.
JK is a great author, but she doesn't do to well on making three dimensional characters when it comes to slytherins. Sure Snape was one, but other than that she didn't give any other slytherin some good to them. Draco to me is a little kid who was spoiled by his mother, but pcycoloicly abused by his father so the back and forth of his parents messed him up, but JK never showd this or made us try to symbolize with any slytherin villain. And not to mention that all the vilians are slytherin. Ravenclaw, Hufflepuff, and Gryffindor could easily be vilians.
Hufflepuff:Someone who's blinded by loyalty to someone and couldn't see the pain of anyone else.
Ravenclaw: someone who valued knowledge above all even other lives.
Gryffindor:Someone who is so brave that they do what ever they want.
These can be done in JK's story, but she doesn't see this potential.
I think Bellatrix should have been a Hufflepuff, She was Really Loyal to Voldemort, Also It would be Just a Win-Win, It would Made the House More Popular and Show that not Everyone that is Evil came From Slytherin
The Series Turned Out Good,But I Would't Call Rowling A Good Writer: Her Idea Of Good And Evil Is VERY Basic (Even Childish A Lot Of The Time),She's Not Scared Of Using Plot Devices,She Takes Up Most Of The Books Just For The Setting And She Wrote The Cursed Child And Called It Canon (Enough Said On That One). The Story Pieces Together Just Fine,But I Would't Credit It For Her Being A Great Writer: It Was More A Mix Of Good Marketing And Things Just Kind Of Falling Into Place In A Way That Made It Interesting.
Draco wasn't really abused.
especially the movies show the Slytherin charaters (especially the students of Slytherin house) mostly very one-dimensional. If the characteristisc of the house mean their members go for greatness, are cunning and determined, this must imply that they are also clever and intelligent because you probably won't reach anything great without brains. And most film characters seem rather dumb which doesn't really make sense. Apart from that most Slytherin students have deliberate unpleasant looks, as if nasty people automatically look unpleasant and are always angry.
The reason why some people in Slytherin are dumb is because they were put there because they valued and admired people with ambition, cunning, resourcefulness, etc. Crabbe and Goyle were dumb as rocks lol
@@christianberthiaume4063 actually they weren't dumb. If only you've read the books you'd know. Crabbe and Goyle were very cunning and had deep interest in the dark arts .
Or ugliness as evil
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The reason for the combination of a less intelligent portrayal of people in slytherin, and an ugly portrayal, comes down to "villains" vs "heroes". Humans respond well to good looking heroes and bad looking villains. Its very rare that we have an ugly hero.
Of the Lannisters, Tywin was the effective and competent Slytherin. Cersei was the unstable Slytherin. And Tyrion was the social Slytherin. Jaime to me is a Gryffindor.
Yea jaime is not sneaky clever more brash and brave.
But Tywin is actually is the worst of the Lannisters. He doesn't care about his people, his country, of even family, he only cares about greatness of his house. And for that he would do anything, destroy his children happiness, bring dishonor on himself and his house, break any laws of gods and men. There's even a theory, that Tywin knew about purple wedding, but desided not to do anything about it, because he would get rid of Joffrey, who's mad and uncontrolable, and Tyrion, who he hated so much.
iMADgoaway that also makes him a textbook slytherin. Not a good example to help redeem slytherin’s though.
iMADgoaway Tywin is a product of his time and society. If you look into his backstory, you can see why he becomes who he is. The fact that he is loyal to his house makes him quite Slytherin. He probably did know about the purple wedding and as you pointed out, may have wanted to use it to get rid of two birds with one stone. If that was the case, it was certainly a brilliant strategic move. He also wanted Jaime to be his heir and used Tyrions trial (as a result of Joffreys death) to try to get that and it almost worked. Lastly, I don't think his motives matter as much as the results. Westeros flourished when he was hand of the king irrespective of whether he did it for his house or the realm. His pragmatic resourceful political nature makes him a Slytherin. But being resourceful doesn't automatically make one bad. Margery Tyrell is also a slytherin and used her resourceful nature in other ways.
Ahmed Harris, this doesn't make him a good person, so he's not an example of "good Slytherin". And there's no evidence that he was better Hand than any others. And actually, Tywin brought his own and his house' downfall. It's his fault that everything pretty much collapsed after his death. He was so ignorant about his family, and made too many enemies to his house
My life is like Draco’s, (but obviously my parents aren’t death eaters lmao) because I come from a family of reputation. That’s why the Slytherin seems so real to me, they all have stories. Stories that might just change the way you look at them. Maybe if people would see the real me, they would feel differently about everything in my life. I don’t look for pity but I do look for understanding.
"Not witch or wizard who went bad that wasn't in Slytherin."
hahahahahahaaaaa. Gilderoy Lockhart (while not necessarily considered evil, he willingly tried to wipe the memories of kids to save his reputation and leave them to die alone), the Marauders (far from evil, but easily bullied another student for no true justifiable reason), and while there are plenty others, the most iconic evil wizard out of Slytherin is Peter Pettigrew. He was an utter coward despite being in Gryffindor and ultimately betrayed his friends and was willing to murder and hurt others.
Slytherin doesn't make evil people, but evil people are often put into Slytherin as the house will provide them not only the friends and allies that will help them as they are loyal to their friends and family, but also help mold them to be resourceful and shrewd. Perhaps even testing them to see how they can handle the opportunities presented to them. The weak will give into temptation, the strong will rise up and use their shrewdness to make the best decision.
Perfect examples of great Slytherin: Regulus Black, Merlin (yes, Merlin), Severus Snape, Narcissa Malfoy (seen in her unconditional love and care of Draco despite the danger to herself), Horace Slughorn, Leta Lestrange, Andromeda Tonks, Draco Malfoy (in the end and in his times of doubt of the Death Eater way), and then obviously Albus Potter and Scorpius Malfoy.
@@themimsy exactly!
Also I'd like to point out that Slytherins being evil was a huge misconception.
I mean at first Harry's only references are Hagrid, Ron , two people he trusts who are notoriously anti Slytherin. The first Slytherin he met was Draco, and Snape.
Neither are likely to make a good first impression.
However with each entry we're proven wrong.
For example,
Snape was trying to cast a counter spell. And the villain was a Ravenclaw.
It was a pure blood Gryffindor who opened the chamber of secrets. It was Ginny, not any Slytherin
Peter pettigrew, the villain was a Gryffindor not Slytherin
Once again Pettigrew played a key part in Voldemort having a new body.
R.A. B! Need I say more
Professor Slughorn, as abusive Snape was ,he did play a part in saving the wizarding world.
Astoria Green grass, a pure blood Slytherin who actually led to Draco stop being a bratty jerk.
And of course Harry's character development. He went from not Slytherin to house Slytherin will have gained an excellent young wizard.
In fact the ghost of house Slytherin was a tragic and misunderstood figure. He committed suicide because in his anger he killed his mentor's daughter.The chains he wraps himself in are his way of punishing himself for all eternity.
To me Slytherins means living in the darkness , doing the necessary, being loyal and ready to be sacrificed for greater good
@Atria Laurent Except slytherin are basically wizard nazis in this story. Don't forget that part.
@@legrandliseurtri7495 That bias wouldn’t be forgotten due to it being rammed down our throats by the plebs
I have always said that Slytherins have the greatest capacity for good. Determination, ambition, resourcefulness, and cleverness; none of these things are bad. It’s just that the whole pure blood things hamstrings most students into following self serving goals while massively inflating their ego at the expense of others.
If that one thing was dropped, or a Slytherin student didn’t follow it, they could be the greatest of heroes.
I agree. I always felt like Voldemort chose the Slytherins as his Deatheaters so the most cunning wizards would never double cross him.
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Lelouch Vi Britannia would agree.
Well, also they are basically a whole house of objectivist, Ayn Rand types, which basically only leads to evil.
nunouno001 Yes Determination to kill a 1 baby boy and his parents.
ambition to become "immortal"
resourcefulness to save harry only to revive Draco from castle
and cleverness to call father to execute a hippogriff to restore ego, clearly Sytherlins rock... don't they?
Perfect examples of great Slytherin: Regulus Black, Merlin (yes, Merlin), Severus Snape, Narcissa Malfoy (seen in her unconditional love and care of Draco despite the danger to herself), Horace Slughorn, Leta Lestrange, Andromeda Tonks, Draco Malfoy (in the end and in his times of doubt of the Death Eater way), and then obviously Albus Potter and Scorpius Malfoy.
and in first place, with 472 points, Slytherin house. 👏👏👏Well done Slytherin well done,
However ...
Gryffindor wins the house cup 🤷♂️
If during the events of The Half Blood Prince Harry and Ginny had decided to bang right in the middle of the Great Hall Dumbledore would have awarded them Gryffindor points.
@@MissedBandwagon ...really? I mean, yeah. The trio deserved nation-wide praise for doing what they did, not just house points, but still...
💚🐍 I’m a proud Slytherin 💚🐍
I had to scroll too far for this!!!
@Yuvika Devendra Gandalf becomes a white wizard in the second film.
Same
The White Wizard same😎
I'm Slytherin too and also a pureblood
I think the reason why people are easily intimidated by us Slytherins is because we have the qualities of all the other houses while still having our own. Let me explain:
Gryffindor - we are definitely brave and know what is right, but we also know when we have been defeated or when the right time to step aside is.
Ravenclaw - we are intelligent, wise and creative. We NEED these qualities to be able to plan for the future or be cunning, but we also know when we don’t have the answers and we are able to say “I don’t know what to do in this situation and I’m lost at sea”
Hufflepuff - yes, we might be selfish at times, but in the end we would die and kill for the people we truly love and cherish. There is nothing we wouldn’t do for the people who are closest to our hearts.
But apart from this we have our own qualities as well. We are cunning and fight for what we want; we are ambitious and determined and can reach our goals if we just try hard enough; we are self preserved and won’t let anyone put us down because we matter and we won’t take any shit; lastly, we like traditionalism, in routines and traditions are where we feel most comfortable because that’s when we know what will happen and that’s when we can feel control, because if there is something we hate it’s when we just stand there helpless, unable to fend for ourself and we don’t know what will happen
But this does not make us the bad guys. We can use all these qualities for good things.
We have trouble with school but wants to be a doctor? We will put in the effort and get there in the end even if it’s horrible going through the process of getting there.
We have extreme phobias but live on our own in a completely new city where we don’t know anyone? We will make sure to go out and experience the world and challenge ourselves.
We’re being bullied or struggle with mental health? We will keep fighting because nothing will get us down and we won’t ever loose if it can be avoided.
That exact same argument can be used against you.
@@fightingmedialounge519 ?
@@tia6437 listen to her argument and think for a second.
@@fightingmedialounge519 I did sorry, but I don't understand what you mean 😂
@@tia6437 I mean saying that everyone that dislikes slytherin is jelaous of them is such a nothing stance that could easily be used by someone else only with that person claiming slytherin is jelaous.
Slytherin kid: *breathes*
Everyone else: *EVILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL*
Well, we do know there are four types of people: brave, smart, evil and miscellaneous.
Slytherin gets a bad rap but the way the Sorting Hat describes Hufflepuff it's basically the dumping ground of the houses. "Oh just chuck them all in here because they don't fit anywhere else."
Ah see this video made the crucial mistake of mentioning the Cursed Child. We never mention the Cursed Child. Ever.
Liesl Heston WHEN SHE SAID CURSED CHILD I CRINGED
That book should have never been written
The Cursed Child's like every fanfiction abt Harry Potter in Wattpad.
I just love how the whole fandom came together and banned that book into the world of fanfiction. Literally no one else except Rowling consideres it to be canon.
hello there fellow erudite
Not even one mention of Narcissa Malfoy who literally saved Harry at the end?
Not for Harrys sake, but for her fuck trophy.
She lied to Voldemort’s FUCKING FACE for her son. THAT is love. She saved Harry in the process of finding out if her only child was alive or not. It wasn’t for Harry’s sake but she still saved him
Frost One act of decency doesn't make you a good person. Narcissa Malfoy's love for her son is exactly like Cersei's love for her children. Yeah, sure, a redeeming quality. Wow. Such a good person, huh?
They already talked about her in their last video on Slytherin
No, but it makes her complex
Fun fact: Slytherins love affection from people that we deem worthy ( *cough mostly Hufflepuff cuddles coughcough*) we just have a RBF so that people stay away😌
Yes. Plus I like keeping an rbf and long eye contact to assert my dominance of the situation
There really is a lot of (unacknowledged) affinity between Slytherins and Hufflepuffs.
For example, both are deeply loyal to the persons they love---and in both cases, self-sacrifice for the sake of someone they love can be what redeems them from their worst qualities (the bad quality Hufflepuffs tend to have is cowardice, if anyone's wondering).
All my friends and I have taken the sorting quiz where I identify as Slytherin and they identify as Hufflepuffs. I love my clan of Hufflepuffs
Edmund Pevensie (the chronicles of Narnia) can also be considered a Slytherin. Even though he joined the bad side of the story, he was proof that people could change. He wanted to be great because, according to himself, "he always came in second," and he wanted to prove that he was good at leading and knew what he was doing.
In one of the books in the saga, he proves to be a great leader and also very protective of his family. He was proud of who he became and admitted his mistakes.
That's why he and many other characters, like Sherlock, Tony Stark, are my favorite characters.
I get more of a Ravenclaw feel for Hannibal Lector if I'm being honest. He prizes intellect, inquiry, expressions of culture. He's analytical and basically without higher ambition beyond exploring ideas and perfecting crafts: music, art, etc.
His evil traits are mostly from taking a too abstract a view of life, particularly human life. Granted he has a very strategically oriented mind, but these strategies are usually pretty fixing the problem immediately in front of him, rather than pursuing a life's long ambition. He formulates a plan to get out of prison, but he's not formulating a plan to undo the legal system than makes his imprisonment possible. He formulates plans on how to kill people to make a meal, he does not formulate a plan where he would have enough power to do so in the light of day.
Nahhhhh y'all Slytherins can keep Hannibal. Us Ravenclaws dont want him.
@@lilbihxxx1234 us slytherins dont dont want him either
Ill keep Hannibal ;)
Good comment, but I just have to point out, his last name is Lecter not Lector
He is actually a Hupplepuff! A man just likes to enjoy his food 😂
If we are talking about Slytherins in Game of Thrones, Petyr Baelish would be the number one.
as much as i despise baelish, id have to agree... we would be sitting in the same common room
we would not be talking about slytherin in GoT because they are different worlds.
what about Tywin??
The Hound would have went to Hogwarts and yelled about no such thing as a true wizard and witch and then commenced to ram their magic wands into their eyeballs whilst eating chickens and drinking a flagon of wine!
to be honest, Petyr Baelish is one of my favourite characters. sincerely, a Slytherin
slytherins gives me scorpio vibes.
cold yet charismatic, exellent in whatever field they choose, and have really small circle of close people.
Personally I feel like the way the books were written had Slytherin written out as the completely evil archetype and Gryffindor as the savior. While in real life every single house could be evil except Hufflepuff is the hardest to be evil I think because of the qualities they have. Every single person contains qualities from every single house but the defining quality gets you into a house. Ravenclaws (my house) for example could value knowledge over morality, the Grey Lady for example stole her own mothers diadem to get the knowledge she seeked. Lockheart also was evil because he would wipe the memories of people and steal their achievements.
Griffindors unlike Slytherins love patting themselves on the back for doing the most basic human activity, like saying thank you and that pisses Slytherins off they're like; "seriously you're being appreciated for something as simple as this!? I do this every fucking time" .
Ronak Gour Honestly I think that’s an over statement. At this point Gryffindors are seen as show offs and jocks. Not only that but people who do consider themselves Gryffindors are seen as fake fans because people assume that just want to be in the same house as Harry. Personally I’m a Gryffindor and I honestly think that people are kinda making all the house toxic. I’m a Gryffindor who’s dating a Hufflepuff and my two best friends are a Ravenclaw and a Slytherin. Anyways sorry about this long comment that didn’t really have a main idea. Thank you for taking the time to read it tho have a good night🙂🙂
Got any examples of that?
@@winter1178 thanks for saying what I think too! Gryffindor forever!
Don't generalise. This coming from a bonifide, hat-sorted Slytherin.
While I can see both sides I think both houses are over generalized and stereotyped.
I myself am Slytherin and we get lots of hate. Everyone sees everyone in my house as racist, blood supremacists, bully's. The general connotation is that all slytherins are bad. Slytherins are evil. That is not the case.
The same can be said for Gryffindor. They are seen as the brave, do-gooders who are perfect in every way. That is not the case. There can be bad griffindors. However their overall connotation is that they are perfect, they are the good guys. But as I said a few sentences ago that is not the case.
As for you +Winter 117
you are not the only one who is friends with other houses. Let me start off by saying both of my parents are Ravenclaws and produced 3 slytherins (me, my brother, and my sister). I am friends with people from EVERY house. 3 Ravenclaws, 2 Gryffindors, 4 Hufflepuffs, however I am the only Slytherin.
Then technically Benedict Cumberbatch is a Slytherin..
If Harry Potter have to reboot someday, Cumberbatch will be a great Snape..
I was thinking the same thing while watching the video
The Harry Potter movies should never be rebooted.
@@synlion in this era, where 60% of movies are adaptation, sequel, prequel and reboot, it's bound to happen some days.
Let them finish the fantastic beast series, and 5-10 years later.... Sadly
When Fantastic Beasts came out there was some talk of there being a series of movies for each house. I think a fascinating concept for a Slytherin based series is what happens to Draco Malfoy after he walks away. The first movie could even touch on what is going through his head when he's asked to kill Dumbledore and basically start there. I definitely see this as the moment Draco started questioning Voldemort and the Death Eaters.
Ugh please. Would much rather watch a series on Snape or RAB than effing Draco.
I think the Lannisters are in their own sperate house.
Cersei: Slytherin, that's obvious
Tyrion: Ravenclaw, he is the smartest and funniest of the siblings
Jamie: Gryffindor, he killed The Mad King ultimately saving King's Landing, and has a sense of honor unlike Cersei.
No Jamie is definitely slytherin
I’d like to think Salazar Slytherin himself was more complex than we may have initially thought. He, unlike the other founders, believed pure blooded witches and wizards should attend Hogwarts. In the context of Harry’s story, this comes across as a hatred for half-bloods and Muggle borns, but the reality may be that Salazar wanted to protect both the wizarding world and the Muggle world. Given that the founders were born in the Medieval era, this seems very plausible, as magic would have been seen as devilry or witchcraft.
That may very well be. But then there is also the basilisk set out to kill all those who do not belong among true witches and wizards.
No matter his intentions, a "the ends justify the means" outlook on issues has rarely garnered a pretty result.
That was the age were witchws were burned on stakes, there is nothing particularly bad in hating people that want to burn you alive, it's normal.
@@noukan42 The witch-hunts didn't occur until the 14th century, possibly 2-3 centuries after Salazar had already died. Slytherin simply believed that all non-pure witches and wizards were so unworthy of magic that he would rather see them die than see them educated at Hogwartz.
@@H25Invicta the basilisk was created to protect the school from any threat, salazars decendants just twisted his ideals to their advantage, besides he won't be good friends with the other founders if he already has that ill intent from the beginning. And the founders are from the Dark Ages and since then there has been cases already of witch burning, it just become popular in the 14th century because of the witch trial that has been conducted because several of the villager showed signs of being poses(from what they say).
Remember, it's the medieval era. Muggles don't know how to read unlike most pure-blood or half-blood wizards. Not to mention, that they are more likely to spread sickness into Hogwarts due to their low hygiene. Most muggles and muggle-born at the time, probably did not have a proper education.
Dumbledore: yes yes, well done slytherin, well done *but*
When ever I say I'm classed as slytherin, people side glance me lol. But all my close friends are hufflepuffs, so maybe they balance me out. 🤷♀️
I'm Hufflepuff but closer to any Slytherins. It's strange but it's reality
Same! My entire friend group is hufflepuffs and a few ravenclaws but I’m a Slytherin.
The main difference between Slytherin and Gryffindor in that Slytherins are much more likely to try to succeed in the system that exists and become successful that way and make a ton of money whereas Gryffindors will commonly try to change the system and take risks that Slytherins wouldn’t see as smart.
True that
Not exactly dana.
not exactly, Gryffindors will go head first without thinking about the danger to do what's right, Slytherins will first act as if they fit in, act calm and collected, observe their' enemies (society's) weakest points, and then attack
Slytherins seem to be more rebellious
Voldemort didn't like how it was, so he tried to change it
And same for Merlin, but he's on the good side
Tony Stark is the definition of HOGWARTS.
brave & reckless = gryffindor | ✓
smart & witty = ravenclaw | ✓
really hard working = hufflepuff | ✓
ambitious & cunning = slytherin | ✓
yup, he's Hogwarts
Not true at all. Iron man would clearly be a Gryffindor. Of course he's smart and hardworking but what he values more than anything else is bravery. He admires people who are really dumb but brave enough to stand for good . Also you can't be in every house. Stark is definitely a Gryffindor.
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I would sort him more into Slytherin. He is very persistent, has the ambition to always create greater and greater technology (which is both ravenclaw and slytherin to be fair), he developed a lot throughout the series, going from an egocentric asshole millionaire to a saver of the universe, which honestly reminds me a little bit of Snape (though I personally think Tony is a way better person than him) and as we could see in endgame, he only dared himself to do something as reckless as time-travel after he found out that it could potentially work, which is way more Slytherin than Gryffindor.
For me, Tony is the prime example of a good Slytherin. Sort of a grey area, but all over a well-meaning person.
I agree completely. I believe he is a Slytherin, but if he had to be anything else he would be a Ravenclaw.
Achyuth Thouta I think he’s a slytherin
Thanos is damn a slytherin
Androneda Tonks & Horace Slughorn should have been talked about in this video
Tonks is a Hufflepuff
@@AidenJamesP the person meant Andromeda Tonks, Nymphadora Tonks' mother, a born Black who was sirius' favorite cousin and a slytherin (since Sirius is mentioned to be the first Black who wasn't in Slytherin) even though she later married Ted Tonks, who had muggle parents
@@alinam1517 I apparently didnt read that closely 😂
Na, Slughorn is a very slytherin Slytherin
Much appreciated, this video about such a tricky subject is so good to see.
Slytherins are complex and only the evil/worst ones are a sub group. But because they "make the most noise", it gives them the most attention.
To people who think Slytherins are purely selfish and can't be good people, I give you two words: Regulus Black
Where my fellow Slytherins at!!!!💚🐍💚🐍💚🐍🍏🍏 also well said Sirius 🙌🏻💯☺️ RIP 0:40
Hey!! Slytherin in the HOUSE!!
In a few minutes, bitch
🍏🍏🐍🐍🐍
Proud slytherin here’s
Right here pal
Who else here is trying to convince their friends that they are not evil
Me 😂
abtwitch me my friend is a griffindor
Me
trying to convince a friend who is also a Slytherin that WE are not evil
Me
Loved this, but unsure why Harry’s inner Gryffindor/Slytherin struggle wasn’t mentioned. It’s discussed a few times how Harry could easily have been in either house, though he didn’t want to be a Slytherin. Harry has these qualities in him too (driven, single-minded) and really it was his view of Slytherin as evil that meant he didn’t become one.
As a Hufflepuff, I admire Slytherins for their qualities I really do. As much as I take pride in the loyalty and the fairness, there have been times when (for my naive self at least) I have been taken advantage of and hurt because of it, and it's my Slytherin BFF who can see through the bs and warn me. She always has my back and I have hers.
Only two types of people clicked on this the Slytherins and the Hufflepuffs
Dammit I'm a hufflepuff, you're right
Ahahahaha same! I’m a Hufflepuff
Gryffindor here, I'm just scouting the enemy.
why hufflepuffs?
You right
“I am willing to stare into the abyss beyond conventional morality and do what needs to be done” this is the most slytherin-like thing I’ve ever heard and this is why I love slytherin
Annie Wilkes from 'Misery' could be an example of what a Hufflepuff villain might be like.
7:56 Why FDR? Eisenhower would have been a better choice. He had all the strengths of all four houses and none of the weaknesses.
8:16 Paraphrasing Nietzsche.
12:24 The opposite of deontology (which some call "consequentialism").
My problem is, why do people make these kind of traits as evil? Can’t there be single minded people who aren’t assholes? Can’t there be cunning people who work alongside a team to share his/her ideas if other ideas fail showing team work?
People have this idea both in fiction and in the real world that these traits make you narcissistic, callus, unsympathetic, a jerk and manipulative in a bad way. However I feel like they shouldn’t be. Why sacrifice your honour, kindness, teamwork, empathy and humbleness just for the sake of knowledge, power and narcissism? Because it feels good? Well drugs feel good but they destroy your body. These traits, if used improperly, destroy your soul.
Previous video referred to Grindlewald as a Slytherin. Which he is not.
Also I'm tired of people forgetting about Regulus Black, a very important hero in the books who happens to be Slytherin. Instead defenses of Slytherin tend to rely on Snape who, double agent or not, is just a bad dude.
@clara oswald pointed out Andromeda Black as well, which I consider a good enough point to add to the original post.
THANK YOU!
snape's an asshole, yes, but in the long run he did good. you can't deny that.
I KNOW. regulus being erased for snape's crusty ass is the worst thing.
He did good, sure, but that isn't a defense against the claim that not all Slytherins are bad guys. He did a good thing, but that doesn't change that he once bullied a fourteen year old girl into permanently altering her appearance, was the worst fear of one of his students, and let Sirius Black rot in Azkaban for years despite knowing full well that he was innocent.
But none of that matters because boo hoo, he got bullied as a kid by someone who is an asshole, yet infinitely less so than he is.
Regulus Black is criminally underrated. What Regulus did was ultimately not based on personal motives (unlike Snape). So he should be the prime example for a selfless Syltherin
Merlin is a Slytherin, and he’s good and had Order of Merlin
Merlin is a main villain
sorry broo ummm no !?
All Slytherin's are not be evil.
good or bad are come in Heart.
I'm Slytherin and I proud to be in Slytherin