What Muscle Soreness Really Means
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- In this QUAH Sal, Adam, & Justin answer the question "How reliable is it to judge progress based on soreness? Is it possible to be sore and not be making progress in terms of building muscle?".
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I wasted so much time before I figured only some of this out. The information in this video is gold!!
Chase the pump, not the pain 💪🏾
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@@code5829 wtf
@@code5829 wth haha
What is pump ?
@@AjayKumar-id7mba rush of blood flow to a muscle from exercise
Soreness tends to be attractive hypertrophy-wise. However, we shouldn't forget it lowers the immune system response capacity. Training frequently in a smart moderate way keeps you energized and healthy
I love these videos of short q/a! I listen to all the podcasts but I like that I can get short forms of the specific information I'm interested in and get to hear AND see it. I always get Adam and Justin's voice mixed up, now I can see who is talking LOL. Gotta listen for the raspy quality to know its Justin. Love you guys. Keep up the awesome work!!!!
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I used to chase the soreness but now after many years I’ve increase intensity and frequency and tracking my progressive overload. Lifting 1-1.5 hour daily. I haven’t been sore in almost a year. I’m still natty haven’t joined the dark side yet
Same experience. The train hard mentality is very difficult to move away from. Pride is a big part of it, the idea of going balls to the wall on every workout just feels satisfying and productive. Made the most strength and muscle gains is when I learned how to scale intensity and volume in a controlled manner and learned how to throw away the ego of always training at a high intensity. Still training hard but in a controlled progression and soreness now is more of a data point than a goal to chase.
I remember going to a personal trainer for the first time lifting weights and he worked me hard to failure and beyond and for a week I couldn’t move at all this was years ago and that put me off and my weight ballooned to nearly 20 stone (280 pounds), in the last 9 months I’ve got my weight down to just over 11 stone (163 pounds) and I’ve started weight training again following your videos and I am noticing a good amount of muscle growth so thank you so much
I've just started getting back into working out. I did bodyweight exercises, barely any reps and am so damn sore all over today. Taking the day off but realizing how weak I am.
This is my story today! Worked out yesterday for the first time in years and man am I sore. Good luck and hope your pushing through it.
Same here I used to be hella fit I don't look bad so I was like eh and no warm up or easing into it I did like 50 push ups full perfect form and some shoulders, biceps and triceps with like 10 pound dumbells because last time i just blasted everything with 25 pound dumbells and my arms felt so tight well 2 days later my body feels brusied my right tricep is so tight when I bend my arm it feels like its gonna tear and it makes me feel anxious and stressed feeling like this 🤣
Love the podcasts!!
Absolutely great guys. I love these short clips filled with a ton of expertise!
When I tried explaining to friends that soreness doesn’t necessarily means it’s a good thing and not being sore doesn’t mean that you didn’t have a good work out. They ignored what I would say and always kill them selves. They had minor progress, however, I out lifted them, got stronger, and my body changed drastically compared to them…. 🤷🏿♀️
Theyre dumbasses😂
I dont believe you
@@brodelnaz okay
You go ego
Awesome 👌 needed this
I wouldn't say you have "over trained", I would say you have secondary factors (i.e. stress, lack of sleep, poor nutrition) that are inhibiting your recovery process.
possibly
No such thing as 'over training', only 'under recovery' one would say
Thanks for the not training a sore muscle segment-I was just going to blast though my workout after skipping a day but, I’ll lower the intensity & not skip moving forward
Another great one, guys
Same here plus you feel way better and ready for the gym after 2days off
Such great advice. Really do appreciate your advice. Now I know why I always feel so beaten up after stronglifts 5x5,. I am a beginner and add a couple extra exercises on at end of workout. In future less is more
Great info 👏👏
@ 6:39 isn’t the entire process of healing adaptation to damage or trauma? So in essence if you’re training to heal then you’re training to adapt.
I think if you're doing frequency of 1-2x a week you should be training more intense to have soreness. For full body you guys are spot on.
Clearly you didn’t watch the video if you’re still saying to train for soreness. 😒
@@modusvivendii🤚 I definitely watched and listened to the video and I chase soreness and continually make gains 🤷 more than one way to skin the proverbial cat.
I feel like this should be intuitive but it just isn't because if the way we're taught how muscle builds in school.
good video, thank you
Important note for all people
Ok but what if you are progressing AND sore every workout? I think I’m a true mesomorph if that makes any difference. I literally get sore every workout. Not crazy but definitely sore, except on the days I slack. When i don’t work hard, the DOMS are non existent. I have so much to learn. I feel like a baby in this game.
6:35 what if I take BCAA’s and whey protein ?
Full body 5 time a week and never sore again unless you hit other small muscles 💪 build strength not mass
What sort of program do you use
Full body 5 times a week is not possible
@@brodelnaz yes it is lol you use your body every day. There isn't one correctb way to workout. There's also many different ways to train lol so you can train full body 5 days a week. YOU CAN'T handle it. Don't put YOUR LIMITATIONS on anyone else 😂 if we can use our body every day for every day tasks why can't you train full body every day? You have to learn how to scale your workouts and the intensity of the workouts. You have to know your body and what to train and not to train. If you diet and recover properly and hydrate like you're supposed to your body can sustain unique workloads. EVERYONE'S body is unique. Use it, move it, build it and take care of it💯 everyone can't train full body 5 days a week at their current state because we're all different with different levels of fitness but everyone can do it if they build up towards it
But what if you’re giving the soreness/bodythe appropriate time to heal?
What if you eat loads and stretch the muscle the next day having an ice bath would that then be beneficial
I do fullbody three days a week and only 3 sets per muscle a workout snd i still get too sore maybe i should lower the weight? Or should i only do two sets
I workout intensely taking most of my sets to failure and I am never sore. Been making good progressive gains the last 2 years.
You know that flabby part in the back of the arm near the armpit , well I’ve been tryna do pull ups and flex holds for a few months, that part hurt so bad ,felt like raw chicken,well I kept trying the same flex hold and felt a sharp pain in the front of my shoulder, next to the front armpit,wish I would of rested earlier, now I’m scared of reburting my shoulder, has only been a week ago feels almost better, but I want to know da frick was that !
Maybe its some kind of impingement, if you feel it in the front of your shoulder
Try working out your lower traps, do rear flys with external rotation and do some controlled Bent over rows
lol @ "if someone pokes me on the chest" I felt that.
I train till im sore. I should noche it down a bit and focus on a few important exercises instead of a bunch of ones.
Holy information zach
Yea if I’m super sore and I’m going back to do a workout I’ll do a 2 sets per exercise in my routine
I noticed I only get sore when I eat over my calorie limit plus extra protein. If i'm cutting, than i never get sore.
Body heals faster during fasting.
Do you think intensity of training might have anything to do with it?
@@ethanschmitt8419 no. I just think soreness is a sign your making more muscle. Idk
My whole body be sore after working every part of body by Friday and take 2days off feel recovered and start over again
Nah it's not why I want and do. Chasing the pump is great for hypertrophy but not for overall performance and strength. I personally love to push my body to the limits and focus on the weights not on the pump. I rather be fucking strong and average muscular then fucking muscular and average strong.
What? At no point was this conversation about pumps. They’re talking about the drawbacks of chasing soreness & using that to gauge how “good” the workout was. If you’re pushing your body to your perceived limits but you don’t get sore, go ahead nothing wrong with that. What they’re saying is if you’re constantly chasing the soreness you’re probably not getting the benefits you would be getting had you scaled it back a bit & allowed your body to adapt instead of having it use its energy on recovering
@@sstteevveenn77 Every guy who can't get big always says they only care about strength and couldn't give a shit about big muscles. Strength = strong tendons
Good luck getting stronger when you aren't building muscle because you spend most of your time recovering instead of adapting.
If we're animals we should be able to do work everyday, sore is Just us being pussies, i used to be sore in my legs when i did legs once a week or whatever, then i did legday everyday for 2 months, after those 2 months i rarely get very sore after legdays
that's all fun and games until rhabdo kicks in. or your intensity is probably very low if you don't get sore
My dumbass did the Murph workout without any prep. My heart, lungs, and legs said hell yeah we can do this but my upper body wasn't ready. My biceps are so sore from the pull ups that I can't sleep more than 5 hours, don't feel safe driving, really struggle to get dressed, and I can't extend my elbows. I messed up big time.
😂 how long did you take to recover?
💎👑
Is cardio inane?
Yeah but it depends
Idk dude... I like the pain.... I need the soreness...
Work up to it takes time. People let the music take over your workout leading to lack of focus and not working up to it. Going to fast can leave you sore within that very minute, wont make you bigger once healed, you just did it to fast at the moment and did not work up to it.
When you can’t bend your elbows on bicep day because your arms keep twitching. Anyone else feel this?
You working your arms way too much homie
Ummm nah bro i think u got a problem😂
Soreness is better you just aint resting the muscle long enough if it aint getting sore everytime
You guys are insane. Muscle sorness is great.....not reviewing is what's counter productive. To say being very sore is negative is lunacy. These guys are the "experts" saying this??? Unbelievable. Thr comment section co-signing this crap is just as crazy. No you don't HAVE to be sore. But saying over training becuse you're sore is crap!!!
Generally when I am sore from a work out and then recover, doing that same work out again makes me far less sore or not sore at all. I.e. I have got stronger obviously cause now my body can handle it.
One of the things they seem to be talking about is where the same work out repeatedly makes you sore over a period of time. If that happens without progression clearly something is very wrong.
Soreness isn't bad, but chasing it every workout will be detrimental. You realistically shouldn't be getting that sore unless you tried a new workout or you wanted to go ham for one day
Maybe next time pay attention to context instead of getting your panties in a wad.
I workout until im tired, always sore when i wake up but goes away when i hit the gym again, worked for the past 8 years great
I get sore when I lower the weight (10-20 rep range) and focus on the actual muscle
When I use heavy weight I never feel sore probably cause I’m using my entire body to move it lmao
High rep high frequency builds strength better then high intensity low frequency imo
So, can a muscle grow, without ever being sored????
Yes
Just don’t go to failure. Like say your doing a heavy leg day. You wouldn’t want to hammer your legs with 5 different hight intensity exercises, and feel like you tore all of your muscles up and you can barely walk. You’d wanna do 1 or 2 heavy exercises, and be moderate for the rest of the session. You want to feel like your muscles are slightly fatigued, not completely dead and tight. You want to be able to perform daily tasks if you need to. This is the best way to have consistency and growth
Tell that to Dorian Yates or myself buddy
Only on social media can people with average bodies be ‘experts’. Gotta love social media!
If you're talking about these guys, then no, they don't have average bodies. They're pretty fit and have decent physiques (check their instas). But, you're most likely desensitised from all the roided up freaks you see as the norm, and therefore as comparison these guys look like they don't even work out.
@@innatecharisma You are absolutely correct....BUT...they STILL could look better without steroids. I look better than they do..and I take nothing but creatine. They have ‘bro bodies’..and I am sorry, but if you are going to speak on fitness as an expert...they should look better, and I do not mean like the steroid types. I mean like a Jeff Cavalier.
Marcel Marshall jeff cavaliar is on juice fool 😂🤦♂️ these guys know what they are talking about
@@authenticmonkey5331 Ok. If Jeff is on juice, which you are probably correct...then they need to take some juice so they look better! Their bodies are billboards, and people are trying to look like Jeff..not them. I get your point, however. He is on juice now that I think about it.
Marcel Marshall yea thats if u value asthetics over actual health and reality. These guys are keeping it real by giving realistic advice to average gym goers not professional body builders. Yea people fall for the roid users way to much but its very toxic for society in my opinion
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to the people complaining about soreness. “but did you die” 🤣
People in jail workout everyday and they are cut
Callisthenics is not as taxing on the body compared to weight training
@@Omor214 depends on the weight you're lifting
@@Omor214 true. Calisthenics requires more energy but less recovery.
They also don't have to work a 9 to 5 job, take care of kids, grocery shop, cook, do laundry, etc.
Imagine if farmers and builders listend to these guys. No work will be done. Farmers are the biggest mofos strongest too.
Yes, I love the Fit Farmer CZcams channel.
Farming will soon be outlawed in this country. You can NOT fully starve a population to death if there's a ton of farmers running around raising food. Farm is a four letter word which will eventually get you labeled a terrorist and thrown into prison. Thanks
lol
What if you eat loads and stretch the muscle the next day having an ice bath would that then be beneficial