10 Exercises All Men Should AVOID!
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2018
- These are 10 exercises all men should avoid. Not only should you stop doing these exercises but you should never do them again. These are the worst gym workout mistakes if you're trying to avoid an injury. You'll learn about exercises that cause shoulder impingement, lower back pain, and knee problems.
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#1 Exercise to avoid: Selectorizer Ab Machine 0:44
#2 Exercise to avoid: Behind the Head Shoulder Press 3:13
#3 Exercise to avoid: Smith Machine 5:05
#4 Exercise to avoid: Hip abduction and adduction machine 6:43
#5 Exercise to avoid: Seated Torso Rotation Machine 7:33
#6 Exercise to avoid: Upright Row 8:15
#7 Exercise to avoid: Lap Pull Down Behind The Head 9:45
#8 Exercise to avoid: Leg Press Machine 10:44
#9 Exercise to avoid: Leg Extensions & Leg Curls 11:41
#10 Exercise to avoid: Back Hyper Extension Machine 12:19
How many times have you done an exercise & then as soon as you finish you feel pain. You might feel it in your lower back or your shoulder but you find yourself thinking did I do something wrong or does this exercise just suck. Well it really isn't always you. There are a lot of exercises out there that are plain bad for you & they only continue to exist just because they've been passed down from one misinformed gym to the next, & noones been smart enough to realize that these common exercises are no good. So today we're going over 10 exercises that all men should avoid & these exercises aren't only exclusive to men. Women should avoid these exercises as well it's just that in this video we'll be sticking to exercises that i usually find men doing wrong. The very first one that I want to start with is actually a group of exercises that guys are drawn to like moths to a flame. I'm talking about all the selectorizor ab machines at your local gym. The machines that you usually start by sitting down pulling out the pin, selecting your weight, then grabbing some handles behind your head & doing crunches. These machines are not only a waste of time but they are also dangerous for your lower back. All these selectorizor ab machines are locked into a range of motion, meaning that your joints & your disks can't travel down their natural path, you can only travel down the path that the machine has set for you. Even if you adjust the machine to your body perfectly, which by the way is very hard to do, but even if you somehow had a machine customized for your body you can still easily run into lower back issues because you're still locked in a set range of motion throughout the entire exercise. Besides a greater potential for a lower back injury you will also get significantly less results from these machines than if you stuck to regular ab exercises like crunches, hanging knee tucks, & declined situps. The reason is once again due to the fact that your locked into a range of motion. The core's main responsibility is stabilization. And it's important to improve your functional core strength because your core isn't only responsible for stabilizing your trunk but it stabilizes your whole body. It is the bridge that connects your lower body to your upper body. When you're locked in a range of motion you take all of the stabilization normally required for ab exercises out of the movement. The really ironic part is that those abdominal stabilizer muscles that you're not working on these machines are very important to strengthen in order to prevent the lower back injury that you'll likely experience on one of these machines. Due to the fact that you're not working your stabilizers you're missing out on all of those deep tissue abdominal muscles like your transverse abdominus & your only targeting mostly your rectus abdominus which is the very outer layer six pack looking muscle. The transverse abdominus is very important to work because not only does it help prevent injury, but it also pulls your stomach in keeping everything nice & tight giving you that flat stomach look. If you want to make your ab exercises tougher use weights by simply holding a dumbbell or a plate either behind your head or accross your chest while doing regular traditional ab exercises. Once again if you don't know where to start start with exercises like stability ball crunches, declined situps, & hanging knee tucks. The next exercise you should avoid is the behind the head shoulder press. First off there is absolutely no advantage to going behind your head. None. Even though I'm sure some old school guys will be disagreeing with me in the comments below you can research this yourself & you'll find that when you go behind the head you're still targeting the same muscles that you would if yo..
I appreciate that he gave alternate exercises to do, instead of just saying "these are bad, don't do them."
Yea he’s very thoughtful
Exactly
He's a really good man
Great take:)
Fully agree
Bro we need more alternatives for leg press, leg curls, and leg extensions. You just killed half my leg day.
Same !
So long as you use them as burners and not going heavy, i think youll be okay
Squat
yes please
@@IamLotion so I think I should use them for light reps in the 12-15 rep range right?
I have no idea what I am going to do at the gym now 😂
Indeed, scaremongering.
I’m extremely grateful for this video! I have a two decade old low back disc injury. I’m always trying to figure out how to support it and did not realize some of these exercises were so bad for it to begin with. Thanks again!
Weight machine companies hate this guy. Find out why
It's a business, so what else it new?
Cuz his channel is giving eronious information
And your spelling is erroneous as well, dummy.
When will CZcams add the laughing emoji? 😂😂
@@sheepledtotheslaughter4917 what? spamming crying emojis isnt good enough? Fuck off kid, what's wrong with lol or haha.
Basically a big middle finger to planet fitness
BASICALLY
Dude I was about to join Planet Fitness just this week. Took a free guest pass and found....no free weights. Their reasoning was they don't want to discourage people new to working out. Anyway, first and last time I'll set foot in a Planet Fitness.
Well...good thing I work out at home.
Lmfaoooo
Yea no shit. I still go there only because I go at 3 am. There isn’t any gyms in my area with those hours and I don’t have to wait for all the bros to get done.
I think leg press, leg curls/extentions, back extentions are and hip adduction are all great exercises. If you wanna build muscle its almost necessary to isolate muscles with those machines. Also hip adduction really is helping with my stabilising muscle so I can squat heavy without having balance problems. Only thing about those machines is that if you have some problems avoid them but if you dont use them the right way to get the most out of your workout.
It’s good for building muscle but it’s not good for your body
@@calebdelacruz40302Everyone’s body is different. They react differently. Hence why a certain exercise is good for one person but not good for someone else. Another factor in place. As long as it is controlled and the form is good, shouldn’t be a problem.
I agree because John cena does them don't listen to this lame jabroni
Came here for this. I implement all of these in my workouts, and they've been imperative for building strength and muscle mass. Don't overload, maintain slow, controlled sets with good form, and they are game changers for your routine. Perhaps this video was meant for amateur lifters, because this had the most amount of lifting tips that I've had complete disagreement with on this channel.
Agree, I do the one and only lower back exercise that he criticized and with weights of course, when I first started I wouldn't use weights. I never feel pain when doing them if anything I find my lower back have gotten stronger overtime. I of course, don't use past a 45 pound plate but if done correctly I don't see how can someone harm themselves unless they are going up and down at the speed of light lol @@alexbasha0508
The old-fashioned powerlifting exercises (squat, deadlift, overhead press and bench press) are a really solid foundation for building functional strength. I supplement those four with pull-ups and bent-over barbell rows, and I feel like I get a complete workout--and only I only do three of them in a single workout.
Fitness culture is promoting over training. Mike Mentzer trained once a week and won competitions. Clearly he was on to something that is heavily overlooked: the rest time AFTER your workout.
@@KuntaKinteTobywouldn’t take mikes advice fully by doing less than 5 but his idea is in the right track. 20 chests of 8 chest exercises is complete BS.
Same with all the an circuits going around
What about body builders who don't care about functional strength?
@@eplatamx2017 It's obviously different for them. But that's a specialized situation, and anyone starting bodybuilding should first establish a modicum of functional strength.
@@Sebo994 Yea I think Mike started to run the risk of under-training, but he has the right idea for sure. Do the amount required to cause muscle growth, then recuperate. Repeat.
I’m 44 years old. From the age of 16 through my early 30s I spent most of my time at the gym performing every exercise that you just said could be bad for ones body. I now have a damaged back, knees, elbows, wrists and shoulders. I sure wish I had this information when I was younger.
even you avoid these exercises, you'll still ended up like this if you spend so much time in gym. Body is like a car, you drive it too rough, you damage it.
@@brnzhut u weak, bruh
@@brnzhut not true! with muscle maintenance and proper care before and after a workout.
like one doing proper all around maintenance on a car it'll last you a long time.
Jason Creager sucks for u bald ass nigga
Jason Creager you should’ve stretch.
Stretching isn’t just for ballerinas and gay men you know.
I injuried my lower back watching this
😂💀
😂
Lol
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leonardo di curzio 🤣🤣🤣
1- 0:52 All ABS Machines.
2- 3:15 Behind the Head shoulder press
3- 5:08 Smith Machine (limited motion range)
4- 6:45 Hip adductors machine
5- 7:32 Seated torso rotation
6- 8:15 Upside Row
7- 9:45 Lat PullDown Behind the head
8- 10:45 Leg Press Machine
9- 11:40 Leg Extension/Curl
10- 12:18 Back Hyperextension machine
MVP
Eh these aren’t too accurate. Keep doing the exercises ur doing. I’d rather take advice from Jeff Nippard.
#1 Exercise to avoid: Selectorizer Ab Machine 0:44
#2 Exercise to avoid: Behind the Head Shoulder Press 3:13
#3 Exercise to avoid: Smith Machine 5:05
#4 Exercise to avoid: Hip abduction and adduction machine 6:43
#5 Exercise to avoid: Seated Torso Rotation Machine 7:33
#6 Exercise to avoid: Upright Row 8:15
#7 Exercise to avoid: Lap Pull Down Behind The Head 9:45
#8 Exercise to avoid: Leg Press Machine 10:44
#9 Exercise to avoid: Leg Extensions & Leg Curls 11:41
#10 Exercise to avoid: Back Hyper Extension Machine 12:19
Thnx for this
The ab machine you showed in the video is not the same was what you described. The one in the video is far superior and let's you put the bar further back to get the a better range of motion than the turd machines you described.
@@DadeMurphie Oh, My bad
This video has a lot of misinformation. It’s 2years old so hopefully he has changed his stance on much of the exercises.
I have so many concerns on this video.....smh opinion supported by science based on others' 😊experience doesn't make you right.....
Imagine this guy opens a gym and there are only benches in
benches, squatracks, dumbells n barebells, basically all we need. Maybe lat bar and row too? Some resistance band, kettle and medicineballs.
I think he does own a gym but I could be mistaken
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Do you own a gym?
@@tingsborg9375 yea basically all you need, but if that’s all your gonna use why even go to the gym to begin with. Just buy that shit for ur basement.
Damn, my leg day went from six workouts down to two workouts after watching this.
Jesse Biedlingmaier right?! 😂
Simple is the best effective.
doing squats for your entire leg workout will literally produce maximum leg development over time and is the most functional movement you can do for everyday life, manual labor, sports, and just about everything else. All the other bs like smith machine, leg press, single joint exercises, and machine exercises are inferior and are a waste of time. To add variation, you can do deadlifts, front squats, and box squats.
something to note about the leg extention and leg curl what he said pretty much is that isolating those muscles is unnatural and you cant use those movements in everyday life.
Like I ll need to squat with 20-40kg at my shoulders or pretty much any of the exercises shown. I am not doing and not planning to do any manual labour so I guess based on the video most people should just improve flexibility and some fundamental strength instead..
Lmfao
I had a knee injury and used leg curl (from very low weight to higher through weeks) and it helped me a lot to gain power without pain (together with other free-motion leg exercises)... therefore I think that it's more about proper technique and precise motion when doing this particular one. Of course I agree that many locked, unnatural movements with gym machines may cause harm and are not good for health (like e.g. the seated rotation machine etc.)...
Well the first thing he does says about these machines are you should avoid them unless you are rehabing an injury (your case) or a bodybuilder.
seated rotation must be banned!!!!!!
PREACH, Brother!
I do several exercises on this list without realizing or understanding why, alternatives and mechanics.
I’ll be making corrections immediately. Good looking out.
Stop spreading this info the free weights are already over crowded at my gym all damn day
xTheNameisEthan it’s cheaper to buy your own weights and workout at home and run in your neighborhood fuck a gym
Don’t worry, people who do these exercises are too dumb to realize the damages they’re doing to their body. I know people who swear by these exercises as it has “improved” their posture and figure. You’re still going to wait your typical 10-15 minutes, but no more than that.
Santos 66 probably, unfortunately I don’t have the money to invest into hundreds or even thousands of dollars into weights so my lil 10 a month is gonna have to do for awhile lol
Get resistance bands.
Santos 66 facts since the virus I have started at home and prefer it a lot more no wait times no loud grunts
The moral of the video is...do exercises that promote natural range of motion???
Pretty much.
He meant have good and frequent sex !!
Basically, avoid machines, do as many free-weight exercises as possible
I also thought so. He should've given more alternatives for the exercises mentioned like that for the hamstrings foe example.
Man versus machine
Lol
I've also gotten a ton of gains and no injuries using the hip adduction and abduction. Same with the Torso rotation and I've been a ton of clients on all these, many in their 60s and 70s. They are all fine, in fact they are all doing better with less back pain.
I agree with all of these, there are so many alternative exercises to safely work the same muscles , I wish I would have watched this 2 weeks ago , I was doing the lower back extensions and strained my lower back , I’m feeling better now but that really ruined 2 weeks of not being able to do anything
I'm glad he didn't say anything about lifting beer bottles. Whew.
hahahaha
My greatest fear is that beer bottles get blamed, for stuff lije this
LOL
Thats horrible lol
This comment speaks to me
i'm so happy that i've found your channel. watched many of your videos in the last months. they helped me a lot. especially this one. always when I did exercises at the machines you mentioned in the video, i had the feeling that something is wrong and doesn't really fit/makes sense. i stopped using them and changed to better alternatives. everything is now much better. progress in gaining muscles and overall health without risking stupid avoidable injuries. i just train to be fit and always prefer lower weights and correct technique instead doing something heavy weights and doing the wrong thing just because others are doing it. thank you.
Thank you. I love the Smith machine and the leg press machine...but I also struggle with lower back pain. I also do the hip flexor and extension...not necessarily with heavy weight...but still. I'm going to take your advice for the next couple of months and see if it works. I ditched the behind the head press and pull downs last year and I never liked that ab rotator machine...but I'm guilty of doing all the other exercises...and my lower back and shoulders are VERY tempermental.
When your high school gym was safer than planet fitness 😢
Planet fitness is a place where people go to make it look like their working out
No way bro. High school weight rooms are injuries waiting to happen. At least the ones I've been to. Kids are pushed to hard by their peers instead of lifting what they can handle. The coaches dont even offer any advice about lifting weights.
@Deku you just seem like that one dickhead student who us just begging for attention and approval, just let the teacher teach and if students want your help then help them, dont interrupt the class and teacher because "you know best"
@Deku just shut the fuck up man
Deku stfu
would have been nice if you showed some more alternatives
Zeltos he did ?
@@jeffwood5897 "some more"
I was about to write same thing
Do face pull for shoulder in place of upright row
How about do research lazy... 😂
Bro thank you so much. My lower back has been killing me. I’ve been using those ab machines thinking they’ll help strengthen my core to help with the issues…. Little did I know I was making things worse. Thank you so much brother. I’m subbed btw
I agree with the leg curls and extensions, I stopped those pretty quickly after I first tried them because I noticed they did not feel good for my knees
After 10 years of total bodybuilding, 15 years of hockey, 4 years of Muay Thai and mma and a sprained rotator cuff, many wrist sprains, pulled muscles and 2 herniated discs later I’ll tell you this guy is pretty much spot on.
no he's wrong about some stuff
Ernesti Echevalier Child prodigy what is he wrong about?
Sure, if you're that fucked up he is right, but for healthy bodies he is wrong on some things.
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Too bad that you do not write what he is wrong about.
1. Ab machines
2. Behind the head shoulder press
3. Smith machine
4. Hip adduction & abduction machine
5. Seated torso machine
6. Upright row
7. Lat pull down behind head
8. Leg press machine
9. Leg extension & leg curl machine
10. Back hyper extension
Add timestamps next time you do one of these for even better comment, but thanks anyway!
Jayden Eveleigh you are right, it would help. Thanks for reminding me. I will do it from now on.
Thanks . My friend
Thanks for the list. I stopped the video after number 3 as he was taking soooo loonnnggg to get to the point.
Thx
There's a lot of good stuff here. I never do the behind the neck stuff, but I've done every one of the exercises Max mentioned for close to 40 years with no issues. Understanding the dos and don'ts (i.e. proper technique & how to adjust the the machine) goes a long way to avoiding injury.
I totally agree, I've been lifting weights for 20 years and never had an injury doing them exercises it's about controlling the weight with proper form. I use to compete years ago the Smith machine and leg press help my legs out a lot.
So I have a bad hip and can’t really do enough traditional “sit up’s” so I’ve opted for the crunch Machines. I haven’t really noticed anything from my back. I always feel my abs tight and sore after a good workout like they should be. Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated ❤️
Damn, there’s goes my ENTIRE gym routine...! 😫
da Mana beta
da Mana stay safe bro 😂
Every day is abs day? :D
kkkkkkkkkkkkkk Same here, man. I'm just going to see one of those videos that recommend us to do all these exercises we should avoid and wait for the best. Meet you in the hospital in 10 years. See ya.
@@Mario-su1jz if ur still using labels like "beta" you deserve a spanking from me and your dad
And i think Personal trainer at my gym need a Personal Trainer.
LOL yes... same here.
That's because you can become a fitness instructor in 5 days ruined it all, hence why I got out the game
Vitamin See for real
Same, at my gym there is a total of 6/7 people working there... From them only 2 have good tips and tricks, the rest are just spotters in my eyes lol
PS. Even with those two I disagree on some things, but I can see why they believe them
Vitamin See hahaha
Man I always felt strange with those behind the head shoulder press. Will never do it again. Very informative video, thanks so much!
Thank you for the heads up! I broke my pevlis and sacrum last year and started using the hip abduction machines to help regain strength to walk again. Didnt know they could cause injury
It's been 6 years... And rotor cuff injury cause of the exercises which he asked to avoid....
Listen to him...
Trust me
HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT
Currently suffering from a thigh joint injury from doing the stupid hip abductor. I only used it once out of curiosity and I've been injured for months. :(
Yes, this is why I cancelled planet fitness.
eon001
Lmao wtf
You are a weak Indian
@@mustafarasooli2958 guy in this video is not an indian ... So shut up bitch
thankfully I avoided all those exercises, because I never exercise 🙊
Wow, you really have nothing to do when you don’t exercise and you spent 14 minutes watching a CZcams video about exercise. You must live with your mother.
@@scottwidiculous I watched it because I don't like the fact that I don't exercise and I want to change that genius.
right on brother!!
@@lerevenant5404 hey u should exercise I'm only 13 and I look as good as a body builder at least that's what's my friends say but u should though
scottwidiculous thats a retarded diss 😂
I agree 100% with all that he says 👍🏻👍🏻 I've had myself problems doing those exercises. And seen friends who also had issues for the same season. The magical word is "Don't".
Almost every exercise you talked about i done them. And it's all making sense why I broke my back and been off work for 3yrs because of it.
6:22 " A squat is a very natural movement that was performed daily before the invention of toilets..." THAT'S SCIENCE!
It is
Daily done in India, Google desi toilet
But so true!
Toilet are pretty bad designed and cause some troubles because it's not natural to be sit like that.
They still use in China
I can literally here Uncle Ruckus’s voice while reading this 😭
Can you make a video showing the alternative exercise to replace those that are dangerous for us?
Can someone trein for me, please?
Free weights are perfect substitute. Deaflifts, pulups, dips, push-ups, bench press, bands, pilatess balls etc
@@brucele2776 Tried that and it only seemed to make my left arm bigger. Am I doing it wrong?
@@VestigialHead use the right hand
@@brucele2776 I just asked my right hand man to do it for me and he refused. He says I am not paying him enough for that shit. I am confused.
I agree 6 yrs back when I was doing these old school I injured my shoulder to such a length that I stopped working out after a year I started slowly with smaller amount still I got pain when I gradually moved up the sets I stopped doing shoulder exercise just with barbell that's it ..great info thanks
I had a lot of pain from the upright row for 3 at least weeks and could hardly move. I wish I had seen this before! Keep up the good work! :)
this dude just ruined my whole life...
How?
@@geosanchez2660 because all the exercises I love doing he advised against.
@@theskeptic8489 I hear ya. I think I got fucked up by the up right row, won't be doing that one again. He is not the only one who had advised against doing it also.
Then find other exercises, it’s not the end of the world smh
@@theskeptic8489 dont worry about this fools advice. He cleary is a lifter not an athlete. Just do what makes you feel good
Leg day has been officially butchered for everybody😂, now we are going to only do squads😂
He left use nothing robbed our leg press and favt leg extension
My trainer has me doing upright rows, leg extensions and hamstring curls lol.
@@moonfang6984 your trainer is stupid lol
Are calf raises necessary btw? I still do them every leg day.
@@moonfang6984 I saw a "trainer" almost kills himself the other day, mismatch loading a bar for squats, and then adding resistance ropes. I thought it was some new guy in the gym, 45 mins later I saw him trying to train a person. I can guarantee you his trainees won't learn how to properly workout
Should've known this 5 years ago. Thanks to one of this exercises I lost my lower back curve and been through hell. Thank you for making such videos. Hopefully more people are gonna listen to you, because you're spreading the truth. Happy holidays!
What caused it and were you able to recover?
@@the__archangel Exercises for flexible spine every day, but never fully recovered. Too much pressure causes pain, but that happens 1-2 times a year. Just don't do too much isolated exercises. Always stretch and make sure your spine stays flexible.
I had neck and upper back injury doing the lat pull down behind the head. Almost a year has passed and the pain still continues
9 out of 10 of these can be summarized - use free weights instead of machines
so all isolation is baad mmm'kay?
Isolation isn't bad. You can isolate properly with free weights. What's bad is machines that isolate you into the wrong position.
You dumbasses are taking his comment the wrong way
@ that's because they are all filled with men cum!
I had had some serious hip and lower back issues that were cured by using the dreaded hip abduction and adduction machine. I used low weight, slow reps, and stretched beforehand. I have an offset lumbar with stenosis and a bunch of other old back injuries. I could not believe how much better my back and hip became after using these machines. The real issue with these machines is that people use too much weight -- a point this video makes very well but that might be missed by someone who just wants to dismiss this machine outright. But without these exercises my pelvis feels crooked and my hip pain is screaming. My case may be unique as my old injuries also prevent me from doing heavy squats and deadlifts. So when done right, the hip abduction and adduction machine can benefit someone with specific issues like mine. This is probably why women like it so much. It hits the glutes and compliments their other glute exercises. But I recognize that for a guy who is healthy and injury free, nothing beats heavy free weight lifting with proper form.
Well said, Hip abduction machine is needed for me as my glutes are soo weak and I use low weight high reps with this with control form and it help me build my glutes using this machine along side free weight
Wow, you just gave my reply. 3 years of physical therapy for my hip injury did nothing. Those 2 machines plus leg curls, all with fairly light weight, finally did it.
I swear your supposed to do stretches after your workout not before
I'm going to assume you are talking about the good girl and bad girl machines
I'm also finding abduction and especially adduction amazing therapy for my 4 years of groin pain, hip pain, leg pain, gout, plantar fasciitis, high blood pressure obviously I'm using light weight and plenty of pulsing.
Dude I’ve been having lower back pains for the last week I thought it was muscle soreness but you point out multiple exercises that almost do on a daily and explain why I’m in pain 😳😳thank you
Which ones?
brooo 😂😂
You are honest man, I had been trying all these exercises and I had a lot of problems with them. Thanks again and again.
I spent years. Literally years... 25-30 years doing all these day in and day out. I am only 59 and although I would not attribute it solely to these exercises ( I have had many hard on the body jobs over the years), but I now have a VERY serious case of Lumbar spinal stenosis. I am in a high degree of pain at every moment of every day. The only relief I get is sitting down. I would trade every muscle I ever built to reverse the debilitating situation I am in now. We did not have guys like this around back in the day evaluating the methods being handed down. So take heed.
Decade's
@@marciboy9401 decades
@@jigneshganja yes
“They never told us till the 80s” Junior Soprano
I've been a pt for 30yrs I can assure you machines and resistance bands is brilliant for 35+yrs any younger than that listen to this guy use free weights as much as you can.
Inc leg press machines they will hinder your movement in the long run.
Sound advice i am 59 and used to do some of these, hence months of rotor cuff pain. Listen to this guy.
always helpful Bro I see so many people doing all these awkward workouts that are simply just bad for you I avoid all these and so glad I watched this video
Thank you for informing us. 👍🏼 Ive never used most of these exercises, but considered most.
My leg routine have been butchered :')
Mine to... im only gonna do squads now. Gonna be a boring leg day.
H3ct0rXZ I do squats and calf raises on the smith machine, leg press, leg curls and leg extensions. 😂😂 looks like we’re just doing box lunges bois
I have a lower back injury. I can’t squat or deadlift. What should I do for my legs?
@@EditingWithPopPop he did say the machines are okay if you're recovering from injury
@@EditingWithPopPop work on 1 leg squat
I think anyone who’s subscribed to Athlean X already avoids all these exercises but glad he gave more in depth information on why these don’t work to your advantage
exactly. he even pointed out some that I didn't know about
Yeah, mah boy Jeff Cavalier got backed up by him.
Great video! Super helpful and spot on. I agree 100% with everything you said here. Having been working out for 27 years now I have avoided 90% of those exercises subconsciously. So it definitely helps to listen to your body.
That why I'm having lower pain since Jun and coz of it .
I had stopped working out and other reasons but I did all what he said in the video.
Thanks for the info.
man looks like ramos mixed with otamendi
True
that's so spot on
Great name. And I agree
And aguero
Lmao
It's true. I was told a bit too late by a world renowned body builder that it all about Risks Vs Gains. There is nothing to gain from behind neck press.
And the risk of injury is high. I've had one shoulder opt on and the other is now playing up.
Before this happened I would do 100 press ups every morning. Now I can't do five before pain becomes unbearable. This injury happened 10 years ago and I'm still suffering the effects so be warned. Listen to this guy and stay safe.
William Kildea
I'm not fussy. I eat when hungry. Drink when dry.
If the whisky don't get me. I'll drink till I die.
You and me both bro .
You’re one of my favorite coaches the advice is legit I know this for certain and you have a very polite positive attitude towards your people and I’ll always be one of them.
I'm not sure about leg curls not having any functional use. Lying leg curls sure, but ever since I started doing seated leg curls, I've found I can really slam shut the recliner leg rest with more strength than before
You’re right, the seated leg curl can make you use more weight and makes you stronger in that position.
To sum up the whole video: Don't use machines because they put you in a locked range of motion!
I think he meant that too
I am not using them because I cannot afford them. But good to know I am not missing out on anything. :)
I wouldn´t say "don´t use machines", but in my point of view some of the machines are only good if you want to be a bodybuilder and grow a lot of muscles (still I believe that limited range of motion is not good for your body). If you want to be and look fit, I would suggest things like calisthenics.
Actually he did mention a few free-weight exercises as well.
But yes, free weights are generally better than machines.
@0 0 cable machines give you more natural movement than single path machines.
And just like that, in 14:11 minutes, weekly leg and back rouitines have just been butchered.
Just use barbells
@@-_-1937 good advice, except there are 15 powerlifters at the squat rack and they rest for 15 mins each for god knows how many sets
Mine too. The problem is going to be that it’s hard enough already to get access to the free weights at my gym. Always being monopolised by the body builders. That’s actually why I built my routines around the fixed weight machines. Eh, fuck it... I’m over sixty now anyway. Time to just give up and pork out!
@@arian3837 iam a powerlifter and only in my max over all god like rep i would like a 15 minute rest but if ya gym had not enough free weight then just move to a powerlift gym
Every time I go heavier on squats I get a sore lower back, doesn’t mean it’s bad. Also felt the ab crunch machine at my gym was actually pretty good
One of the best videos I've seen. My own experience, I have tried many of these machines and ran away from them with the first try feeling how unnatural they are. Body should be able to move freely as it is and no need really for some weird workouts that keep you guessing where the hell is working now...
Still doesn't explain why my wife left me. No thumbs up for you.
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Happy to help. 👍
Ha.... Lariously done!
Damn
Thats Not his fault haha, let her go man
I laughed so hard my abs are souring 😂
So stay away from all gym machines and only do free weights. Ok got it.
I mean you should avoid relying on machines anyway but plenty of machines are fine, just hip, leg, and ab machines are already hilariously dumb. You get way more in what you actually use in those muscle groups when you add natural ranges of motion. Legs need stabilization, abs need stabilization, hips need stabilization. Focusing on singular muscle groups is how you end up fucking yourself even if nothing explicitly goes wrong in these muscle groups.
RyanKaufman I hate those leg machines after my leg workouts I’ll use those leg machines just to burn out but I’m going to stop doing it .
Don’t go to the gym. The only way to build practical strength is to go to the woods. Punch trees, rocks and wild animals. There’s no point in any other workout.
Wrong. Those machines are fine. I totally disagree with everything in this video. You just have to know HOW to use those machines.
Even the leg press machine is ok. But putting all that weight (including a human like this silly video) is a bad idea, lol.
As a BJJ practitioner I love the adductor machine, it works your guard so well.
Leg press too
Can you make a video about alternative exercises to these? It’s helpful to know what not to do but need a full video on what is better.
Thanks for this information.
Moral of the story, don't exercise, stay safe, play videogames.
Ancek
Preach for the people at the back.
Controllers - Hand strength and endurance
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Believe it or not i actually injuried my left hand becauese i pressed L3 too many times ...
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I was worried the tenth one would be, watching netflix while lying on the couch can put great strain on your lower back. Thank fully he has not mentioned it yet
Lol funny thing I’ve read all day
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I am just turning 70 and still lift 5 - 6 days a week. I do not lift heavy. About 8 days ago I did the upright row you were talking about in this video (no not normally do the exercise) and hurt my right shoulder. Did not feel the discomfort until the next day. So now I am trying to rehab it myself with shoulder movements, no weights used in these movements. The discomfort is not severe but enough that I know it could be. A long time ago I hyperextended my right shoulder sliding into home playing softball and have been prone to injuring my right shoulder from then on. Now I know what exercises not to do but like everyone else we sometimes do them anyway, my mistake. Just thought I would let people know that your advise in this video is spot on. Most of us who have lifted for a long time know what we should or should not do. Listen to yourself, injuries even the small ones are no fun.
I just got off doing Smith machine bench presses for about a month. I was moving some good weight. Now I'm on a regular flat bench. Wow!!! Holy moly. I didn't know regular bench presses would get me so knackered. You really do use so many more muscles on regular bench as opposed to Smith.
I’ve been working out the last 7 months and getting deeper and deeper into fitness and I’ve lost a lot of weight but I’ve encountered a lot of strain and light injury along the way. I regularly do at least 5 of these exercises and never knew this information. All of the pain and discomfort you showed in this video is every last one of my problem areas and I wear sleeves and braces to keep them good, but I whole-heartedly think you just saved my joints in one video. Not only pointing out why these exercises are a problem, but you also gave alternates to work those groups as well. I’ve watched many of your videos already but you’ve just gotten a subscriber for life! 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
he forgot to mention that there are smith machines that are vertical 90 degres and you can do squatchs safetly in that ones, abduction machines are actually safe the problem is the user, people take their backs off the chair while doing and then becomes a very dangerous exercise, and you can say the same thing about the leg press, mainly wrong use of the machine
@@pensante69 He also straight wrong about never loading your adductor unless this guy doesn't squat or deadlift. The both load that muscle and making them stronger will help this lifts
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This explains ALOT of health issues I have- thinking I was doing something wrong discouraged me to work out a lot, thank you for this video you saved mainly MY BACK 👍🏽
Going nuts on dips is what set me back almost a year. As a youngster I could do dips all day, so naturally after retiring I wanted to get into the best shape possible and hit the assisted dip machine without any weight offset. Talk about messing up by causing a crazy out-of-control pull on the triceps! USE the assisted dip and build over time! Some might say to avoid it altogether, but just be careful on that machine!
Be careful doing dips ? 🤔
LOL you might be the guy I was cursing out under my breath from across the gym waiting to use the assisted machine because you weren't using any assist and there are bars for that 10 feet away from the machine 🤣
I love learning about new things preciate the great knowledge
Basically, do not use machines other than a bench, a pull up bar and barbell. You dont need fancy equipment to get stacked.
Totally, and I keep all of those and a few big kettle bells at home for conditioning, no more gyms and poseurs in spandex/lycra for me!
most things he said in the video are incorrect if not seeking to clickbait.
@@hplovehandle Ahhh, but the eye candy.
@@chuckcap6878 true, true
I have used some machines for years and never had a problem. All this depends on the person and if they are doing the exercises right or not.
Curiously, I evaded all those exercises by pure intuition without knowing their risks. But as soon as I felt it was "unnatural" or uncomfortable or it hurt in an unnatural way, I discarded it.
Good video.
You are one of few people these days that can listen to their body.
Same
Same here. Never liked any of those
confirmation bias much. There was nothing wrong with leg curls or extentions, rewatch the video and you ll see he gives 0 reasons as to why those exercises are bad.
Aside from "they use only the knee which is unnatural" duh.. it's an isolation exercise it's made to isolate. There is no info presented that claims that if you take squats or running and you isolate-tly look at the knee joint you ll see something else from the actual isolation exercise of curls and extentions.
Then he says "unless you wanna be a bodybuilder". Being proper weight, walking, swimming in the summer and eating healthy can give you all the natural capabilities you need in your everyday life unless you are a construction worker. The majority of people going to the gym are going for esthetic reasons, since even without those exercises the soreness and energy loss will make you less capable than without the gym in the first place.
Just like sex which you also thought was unnatural!
Excellent video. I wish I knew this information long ago before my injuries. I hope many people see this and heed the valuable lessons provided.
Switched from regular squats to smith machine due to knee and back pain. It allows a smoother workout for me with little or no joint pain. I feel like leg press is a great way to destroy your legs at the end of a lift without the pressure on your knees and back as well. I agree with his assessment that you benefit from regular squats and leg press alternatives. But, I tried for many months and can’t avoid it. For me the long term solution is smith machine squats, body squats, hex bar deadlifts, and leg press. You younger people can handle the other crap. My old joints are too sensitive to do regular squats with weight.
You’re probably just squatting incorrectly
@@lmdoinraysmom Or, squats are just easier on a smith machine because you dont use stabalizer muscles to keep yourself stedy.
Dead Excuses well smith machine is awful. It pushes in a weird line of force. Just saying. Just argue with me cause I don’t know what im talking about
@@lmdoinraysmom Which is why some of the smith machines have a slight angle inwards, smith machines are the same as any other machine, not as good as free weight but they target a specific muscle and doesnt use other muscles as secondary stabaliers.
@@lmdoinraysmom great advice to get people injured.
Thank YOU, I like everything you had to say here and I'm a big fan of natural range and free weights. But then, I train for practical strength and conditioning, not for show :) Last thing I want at my age is an injury from an impractical exercise move. After years of "goofing off" I'm getting back into strength training and you've provided lots of food-for-thought. Over 20 years of military service where we trained as part of our daily routine... sad to say, we did a lot of these "behind the head" moves... unknowing. wow.. I really gave some bad direction to my guys... the behind the head lat-pulls were something we all did very heavy. Eye opening. thanks and thumbs UP.
Frederick Dunn after 4 years in the military at the ripe old age of 23 I had to have hip surgery to repair cartilage that I tore the crap out of. Knowing it was torn my command still had me doing steep hill sprints, 5 mile runs, heavy weight exercises until a month before my surgery. Biggest regret was not advocating for my health, it’s taken me two years and a lot of research to workout properly. I face palmed at so many of the things he said in the video because it was a lot of things I’ve tried and decided I didn’t like because it would tweak my hip and now I understand why 😂😂
Your PT instructors should have had your back better than that. I hope you're doing better now! I never ever pushed my guys to the point of injury and if someone did have pain that wasn't due to growth and physical training, we sent them to medical asap. Some guys would ruin themselves trying to "make it" it's our job to notice and get them out.
Did you guys end up injured doing heavy behind the head lat pull downs??
Frederick Dunn so what u saying is every leg exercise in my local gym is bad for me 😂😂
Kate R 23 ripe old lol but yea unfortunately military doctors can be Shitty. They think Tylenol fixes everything and always assume that its just your form that's causing pain. There are many people who lifted and worked out before joining the service but they are gonna assume you didn't or just lazy and want a profile. Trust me when I say half the time when you to go medical and the PA has a ranger tab, expect him to tell you that the pain is natural and they prescribe you some icey hot. I rather us my own money and see a doctor outside doctor.
P.s hope your injury is better now.
Switch to the x1.5 speed when playing this video.
You're welcome.
Why would I want to listen to some mumble rap? I'm here for his information which I find very useful. If you're annoyed by his speed of talking no one is here to stop you from clicking away. Cya!
The guy in the video talks slowly in the video; when you switch to 1.5, it's still clearly understandable and all the content is presented at a reasonable pace. I found this comment very helpful. Thanks Vitaliuz.
Vitaliuz ah tank you
Fucj that switch to .5x
Vitaliuz you sir will be spared when I take over the world
Thanks for a great video, I wish I watched this one years ago. Damaged my shoulders doing everything wrong.
EXCELLENT!!.... thank you for the great info.... I am now a subscriber !
He could have just said "Only use free weights" lmao
And Cables....
It's still better when something is said specifically
Yep, which is pretty common to hear and at that point you might as well just buy a set of adjustable dumbbells and a weight bench and do it all at home.
Max Maxed all machines are a waste of time
People are more likely to follow advice when they're given reasons and explanations.
Every injury he spoke about, that you can get, I did get them when I was on my 20s and 30s and use to hit the gym 7 days a week and twice a day. I had back injury, neck injury, shoulders injury and knee injuries. Please listen to this young guy, that I wish this information was around when I was naive and stupid. Thank you gravity information, I am still exercising, not so much, but 3 times a week, and following the information given here, which is exactly the information given by my doctor. Awesome video...
Happy you're still lifting bro
Amen to that. I haven't done most of these (luckily, my trainers seemed to avoid these), but I have done the leg press and legg extension machines. I have permanent knee injuries in both my knees and as soon as I got on them and used the max weight I could do without sacrificing form, the strain on my knee was killing me. So I asked my trainer to give me free weight excercises, as they don't cause abnormal trouble for my knees. So for those 2 that he mentioned, I definitely recommend you avoid them
7 days a week and twice a day? Are you actually insane or is this a joke? If this is true you butchered your own body by not allowing it to rest.
@@paulrayne6602 Not a joke, but the truth. I got huge, and ate like a hungry bull, and had a lady coming to my house and cook me awesome meals from the get-go. Nothing on cans or fast food. But one day, I felt this horrible pain on my left shoulder, which brought me to my doctor, and from that point on, the world collapsed for me. My arms got to be 23 inches of thick muscles but needed to stop. Of course, depression got in the way and had to stop working out so hard, and my friends help me get involved with hunting in the Amazon State in Brasil. If it wasn't for hunting, I don't know what would have happened to me. I just loved pumping iron when young and felt like superman...Back pain, knee pain, and neck pain weren't enough to make quite, was only the shoulder pain that was unbearable... If you young, listen to the instructions and info, and always consult your doctor. Happy New year...
@@cameronbernardo stupid ass straw arms I know your kind very well.
Please fuck off, mate.
RE the torso twist, I went to my chrio with back pain and he specifically recommended the torso twist, along with the back and front crunch machines you mentioned at the start. He did place a caveat though that they should be done in roughly equal amounts to not create an imbalance with over/under work of certain muscles.
don´t do torso machines, for god sake thats bad, that being said, he forgot to mention that there are smith machines that are vertical 90 degres and you can do squatchs safetly in that ones, abduction machines are actually safe the problem is the user, people take their backs off the chair while doing and then becomes a very dangerous exercise, and you can say the same thing about the leg press, mainly wrong use of the machine
If you live in the US, in most cases you take EVERY professional recommendation with two pinches of salt.
I would listen to a gym bro who explains to me WHY I should do or not do something, than a professional who simply tells me WHAT to do.
@@fredm.2699 Miss the 2nd sentence where I mentioned my chiro explaining why I should do it? FYI I've been doing it as instructed for months and my back is significantly better.
@@lefeal9707 I didn’t miss it. Your chiro told you to do it, then told you to make sure you do it correctly. It’s possible he told you more and you just didn’t type it here eg it’s possible he showed a variety of exercises that attack the area that was bothering you, then he explained WHY he was recommending the one that he recommended and why he isn’t recommending the others. In your sentence, yoh didn’t mention any of these. BUT the point here isn’t to address you and your chiro because I wasn’t there with you, I was saying in general. This isn’t personal so take yourself out of it.
You could not be more right about the upright rows... I've had 4 shoulder surgeries and unfortunatly I learned my lesson too late about the upright rows. I wish you would explain the safe way to do back extensions. I really did enjoy doing those.
Im so happy he removed all the equipment in the gym and labeled it dangerous now I dont have to work out ...wheph
This is one of the best fitness channels on CZcams. I have a bachelors of kinesiology and I agree with almost everything this guy says in almost all his videos.. he gets straight to the point and talks about debated topics, weighs out the pros and cons very well yet gets to a conclusion. keep up the good work.
100% agree👍
Indeed
Says people that don’t have their names associated with the comments. Suspect
Obviously other than Lopez
Oh wow a bachelors in kinesiology. Look out everybody we have ourselves a world renowned expert over here!
Agree with all EXCEPT the leg press and other leg exercises you mentioned. Been doing them for years with no issues.
i m neurosurgeon and i m dealing with bodybuilders back injuries every day , you were right with every word .
Mohammed Faiad where do you stand with a reverse hyper
i'm neurosurgeon and i m dealing with inactive peoples back injuries every day
Wow, how'd you become a surgeon so young?
@@R0bert714incorrect english
@@R0bert714 if you're referring to his profile photo, that could be his daughter.
Summary: only use machines for upper body, don't do anything behind the head, and avoid upright rows
also doing chest excercises on a smith machine can hurt you
Well said, Juan.
Use free weights.
Dumbell triceps???
@TruthRadioShow I agree. Just dont raise elbows above shoulder height and we're fine. A little more reps with less weight too.
Alternate Title: How to cut down exercises of the Leg Day
I've been having some real back pain the last few days. I started using the abductor machine a couple of weeks ago. Thanks for helping me identify the culprit! Back to the resistance band.
Well there goes my entire leg workout
my favourite machines are the chips bowl machine and the remote control machine. never had an injury with them.
Filip Sandebert bodybuilders did sooner than obese people though
It's on the inside
Andrea Roll my favorite is the automatic pizza box opener at planet fitness.
Haha you’re fat. Poot...
Mine is the Netflix and Chill machine