Logan Paul's NOPE Review is a Lesson in Media Literacy
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I think the co-writer and star of Airplane Mode whos brother is going to be in the English dub of a French animated kids movie funded by NFTs that also appearantly has a teddy bear voiced by the hispanic guy from Prison Break who's name is a pun on Pablo Escobar is going to do amazing film criticism
What
Huh
What movie is it 😭😭
@@stupidass69420 Plush: Your Movie
@@awesomereesee7841 oh Ty
The irony of Mr. "Gonna film this de*d guy in the woods" not clicking with the theme of predatory spectacle is almost funny.
@Mr Pickles Also the complete lack of respect, they're just thinking about what it can do for them and nothing more
@Mr Pickles reminds me of the media they have no respect for the dead. Saw it first hand
It’s not even how he feels attacked by how the movie comments on people like him, that would’ve been less exciting. It’s the fact that he’s completely oblivious towards it and that’s the best part of this whole deal
Just curious, why did you asterisk "dead"?
@@thekaratekidpartii2169 censorship has been total shit lately and you can get banned or reported for the littlest things so some people are extra cautious (or a tiktok user depending on who they are lmfao)
"Why would a cinematographer die just to get better lighting?!" Tweets the dude who literally filmed a dead body super close just to get a good shot
He filmed a dead body, there wasn't any risk in him being injured or killed through this
@@justemrys i think the point of OP was that he understood he would get scrutinized for it though. Like Logan understood that it was disgusting, but that people would click on it so he did it anyway. It’s pretty ironic to say you don’t understand why a person would do something to get fame,views etc. when that kinda was the question everyone was asking you.
@@CapEmpire I just don't see a connection, why is the cinematographer getting scrutinized?
@@justemrys some people will do anything for fame. That's the irony.
I think he like me just wanted a smarter film. There were scenes like the alien unfolding and the cinematographer’s infra red night scenes which were awesome but the film felt halfway uninspired and half baked. It was calling more importance to itself than it actually possessed.
The fact that he thought OJ wasn’t expressive enough and “boring” just proves once again that Logan Paul values shock factor and loud, dumbed down content over anything real. Honestly, OJ was a deeply compelling character who displayed depth and sincerity to a degree not often portrayed in film. One thing I admire so much about Jordan Peele’s work is that he doesn’t treat his audience as though we need to be spoon fed every detail to connect the dots. This is probably why Logan Paul didn’t like NOPE, because the movie was made with the assumption that the audience has the capacity for baseline deductive reasoning, something he is lacking in.
I disagree, OJ reacts insanely unrealistically minus one or two scenes, he sees such insane things and literal reacts by 😐 or 😯. Maybe I'm missing something but his reactions in the film almost counteract his character by how unrealistically they are.
@@Hirabeatzthere’s a particular level of stoicism that I’d imagine comes from growing up on a ranch and raising animals with your old-school father. Maybe his calm, collected nature may not be realistic for you or me, but people like that do exist and it’s completely reasonable to imagine someone with his upbringing to act that way
@@TheLiberater13 that's fair, it Can also connect to the fact Jeanjacket is a animal, OJ knows how to deal with them/it. But I still think it's outlandish for a character to see that and barely react especially with everyone else going crazy
@@Hirabeatz Sometimes when we see something hard to comprehend or something too overwhelming its natural for some to just shut down and have a "... nope, not dealing with this" moment. Im sure there's a much better way of explaining what im trying to get at but its like a defense mechanism. Like "i would go insane if i actually focused on or processed the horror im looking at so i just wont in order to save my sanity". Hopefully it makes some kinda sense.
As someone who isnt very "reactive" normally, doesnt tend to jump or scream during games or movies ect. (not as a way to brag about being all tough, more so depression has made me pretty indifferent to most situations) I felt his reactions to be pretty realistic that some people would react that way, especially if they're used to trauma or are just a very chill or apathetic person (i wouldnt call OJ apathetic, just listing possible people who might have such reactions).
also the fact he said he was upset that Daniel Kaluuya "had the life stripped from him" because he was playing a more monotone or bored character. like.. local discovers acting type shit
logan's comment about daniel kaluuya's character being "stripped of all life" is so funny to me cause like... being able to act like a completely different character than one's past roles is exactly what makes a good actor lol
also separately, logan needing blatant horror elements in order to recognize a horror/thriller movie as such ignores the overarching theme of essentially every thriller/horror/even sci-fi: the fear comes from not knowing what is going to happen. the suspense and build-up *is* the horror
The thing is, he was “stripped of all life”
He watched his father die of an impossible occurrence right in front of him. Then his life fell apart because he wasn’t able to live up to his father’s reputation in the wake of his trauma.
He SHOULD be dead and closed off as a character. You feel his panic and struggle when he’s unable to even give a basic presentation at the beginning.
He did a great job. All the actors did.
Daniel Kaluuya also said in an interview that he loves that his character is a man of few words because he can relate to him. His quietness is a nice contrast to Em’s loudness. And the two of them are supposed to represent the two sides of their dad. The stoic discipline and the boisterous salesman.
@@sailornamaste997 A very fun and interesting dynamic for siblings to have and also a commentary on what made their father successful and how that isn't as easy as just trying to step into his shoes.
@@sailornamaste997 For the thing about Em - I agree. Their personalities bounce off of each other so well. Even though Emerald was my absolute favorite, next to Jupe who was my second favorite, they worked so well together in the film. Changing OJ to be more talkative and bubbly, like Em, would, in my eyes, change the movie. It's like removing Romeo from Romeo and Juliet and replacing him with a guy named Randall. It's not the same.
"Way to strip all the life from a phenomenal actor-"
Socially awkward/grieving people exist, Logan.
And given that the character was a socially awkward and grieving character, you could say Daniel kaluuya absolutely nailed the part.
There's being socially awkward(id know that personally), then there's being emotionless. Even when he's alone and away from people, his default face and expression are pretty much all 😐
its so funny that logan paul would say that. hes like "Im a WAY better actor than him! i can be WAY louder than that guy?!? " hahahaha
logan paul doesn’t know i exist 😭
@@brandontaylor3874 Well tbh Logan is more known bc of is past controversies.
OJ was literally an “introverted” character and it’s so funny how people can’t grasp why it needs to be included in this movie that involves observing and training animals as a backstory.
I personally love his performance and sad to see people say that "he didn't do much" or brought nothing, he did a fantastic job playing so quiet and reserved and the character is one that loves animals probably more then people so it helps to have someone understand jean jacket as well as keep some levity with more heightened characters
@@benh4579 Also simply is for contrast with her sister's energetic persona.
@@DeltaSpartan141 yes. he is also the one that doesn't seem interested in spectacle or keeping up with trends, he is the one who doesn't look for himself but others and will keep caring for his horses even with an alien around his home
Someone as extroverted as logan paul can't wrap his head around people like OJ lol.
@@meisrerboot I don't disagree but I think in general more reserved roles like that are thrown under the bus because the acting isn't as bold or needing to cry or whatever. the nuance Daniel brought to this character felt so lived in and believable it's amazing work
Imagine criticizing acting like a quiet cowboy as “wasting a character”
Not just a quiet cowboy. A human that fully understands the implications of dealing with the nature of wild animals which is why he’s the most valuable asset to deal with this supreme hunter.
I think people who have more empathy “get” the movie while people who wanted to turn their brains off demanded MORE SPECTACLE PLS
which begs the question why didn’t they just go see the new Tom Cruise or Marvel feature?
@@futuristicgirl14 That's exactly what I noticed about the reactions to the film as well. The horror of exploiting others/animals for spectacle is lost on them because they see nothing wrong with it.
Bcs if he doesn’t wear a 10 gallon hat and doesn’t gunsling he’s automatically not qualified as a quiet badass lol
@@rhetiq9989
Now I’m picturing a version of Nope where everything is the same except OJ wears a massive cowboy hat and says “yeehaw” every other sentence
The irony of him not acknowledging that the real villain of the film is "spectacle" while he and his brother constantly remain a spectacle I-
Or TRY to be a spectacle.
This a Debord reference?
maybe the reason he dislikes the film is because it subconsciously reflects him. he must make this film awful so that he doesn't have to confront the horror of his own actions
Dude literally went: "I didn't understand a story filled with heavy themes under ambiguous scenes, so I'm confident it's wrong"
Movie smarter than me so bad 👺
'MERICA, F**K YEAH. 😂 I feel like that's our pass time here.
And that right there is every straight white male’s logic. If there’s no tits and explosions, they automatically hate it🤷🏼♀️
It was still SHIT
It's his opinion. I'm not saying it's a bad movie. I haven't watched it yet but you don't have to be butthurt over someone not liking a movie😂
The "Why does the alien not recognize that plastic is not food" nitpick is incredibly funny considering one of plastics most famous nature-harming aspects is that predatory sea turtles eat it because they don't realize it isn't jellyfish, or in other words, their food
And it's established so many times that Jean Jacket is an animal whose hunting instinct is to capture and eat whatever lays eyes on it
His 10th question really gets me. A dog has an impeccable sense of smell yet they still go out of their way to eat their own shit. The movie portrays JJ as an animal, it really shouldn’t be that confusing
things my dog has eaten so far: makeup wipes, toilet paper (both clean and straight from the toilet 🤮), pieces of towels, pieces of blankets and almost any other textile thing, pieces of plastic, pieces of toys, every kind of plant that grows in the park, cow poo!! fun, an entire (stolen) pork chop...... i could carry on. its been a busy 3 years
only thing i didnt get was how it was clearly afraid of flags after the plastic horse, but the final 'fight' had the balloon wrapped in them
Yeah he portrays the alien's behaviour and abilities as the work of a highly advance, human-like intelligence. But the biggest reveal in the film (which was by no means delivered ambiguously) was that rather than being that stereotype of aliens, it was instead an animalistic creature. It's not like it uses sapience to intelligently turn on its anti-magnetic field, that's just a part of its physiology that gets triggered like the reactions in countless animals. A skunk does not strategically spray stuff, it does it as an instinctual reaction to perceived threats.
@@infectedpotato117 I think that that’s mostly because Jean Jacket was defending its territory, and felt threatened by a potential “invader”. Due to the way I viewed Jean Jacket’s behaviour, I believe it was hinted at that although Jean Jacket is implied to hunt for humans and other animals in the mountain range surrounding the valley, it also believes the valley to be included within its territory. Throughout and prior to the events of the film, Jean Jacket camouflages itself in the clouds for months, both lying in wait for fresh food from Jupiter’s Claim and potentially to assert dominance over the territory, similar to how an octopus can hunt and establish their living space. When combined with Ricky “Jupe” park feeding horses to it and thereby “inviting” it to the valley, Jean Jacket probably thought that the valley would be a place of permanent free food, similar to how predatory animals such as bears will inhabit urban areas when garbage or actual food items are left out. After The Star Lasso Experience, during which it most likely felt threatened by both the presence of humans and the previously set out decoy horse, Jean Jacket vomits viscera onto the highest point of the valley- the Haywood family’s ranch house- in order to establish territorial dominance, somewhat like how territorial animals will mark their personal territorial boundaries. During the chase scene, it’s shown that Jean Jacket can recognise simple eye patterns and believes them to be real eyes, shown through its focus on the false eyes on OJ’s hoodie, and its attempt to eat the Sky Dancers. During the chase, Jean Jacket still evidently afraid of the pennant banners, flying sideways and upside-down to avoid them. Even later, it transforms into a form much larger than it usually is, potentially this being its territorial form due to feeling threatened. By becoming bigger than its threat/prey, it had an evolutionary intimidation factor. When all of these elements are combined, Jean Jacket sees the big ballon mascot of Jupiter’s Claim as a viable threat to its territorial claim, and it is already implied to feel threatened by the human efforts to make it leave the valley. During the final showdown, Jean Jacket can’t understand that the “threat” before it is just a balloon due to the fact that it can recognize the eyes and potentially the other facial features as a face, and also because Jean Jacket is an animal operating on instincts. Since the balloon can’t blink, Jean Jacket may have taken its permanent eye contact as a threat, especially combined with the visual component of it being covered in the pennant banners that frighten it. In this scene, Jean Jacket seems to use its own “eye” to attempt to scare away the balloon, along with a visual and audio reference to a rattlesnake’s rattle. Behavior-wise, Jean Jacket seems to think that the balloon is a fellow organism challenging its territory, and it probably realised that the only way to defend its valley and mountain range territory was to kill and eat the invading “organism”, regardless of how intimidating the ballon was. This is just a theory, so it might not be entirely accurate to the film’s intent. I hope I haven’t sounded rude at all!
like my cat is very smart, he also chews on plastic
I love that jeanjacket was presented as an animal not an all omnipotent being. It felt like it gave him the freedom of showing the creature and still maintaining it's allure and unpredictability. There's nothing more boring than watching a monster that can just do literally anything. It gave the creature limitations which somehow makes it more terrifying
Bcs animals as a subject is a big role in the film. As mentioned various times Jean Jacket is being juxtaposed with the horses and Gordy in the film and how they’re being, or supposed to be, treated. Not as monsters but as another living being that deserves a certain degree of respect, and as we saw with Gordy despite all their capacity for ending lives they can still be put down bcs in the end they’re just animals
Yeah I think what makes monsters like that more terrifying is how powerful they are DESPITE these limits.
Exactly and it adds a level of depth. An all powerful monster is evil through and through, but you can’t say the same about a predator. Sure it’s killing people but not for the thrill. It’s an animal and it hunts it’s prey, simple as that. Humans just happen to be prey.
I love mainly that the creature was consistent. I knew the kids were not aliens because the phone he tried to record with was still working.
I agree. It's easy to assume the intentions of a being of higher intelligence. It's harder to figure out the intentions of an animal. It really kept the monster fresh and made it to where the monster was able to keep their allure even after the big reveal.
Logan's "criticisms" sound like someone who watches CinemaSins as a real movie reviewer unironically.
Lol cinemasins is funny tho
This is literally facts.
@@Fiemus9 Unfortunately way too many people take it as genuine criticism when half the sins are arbitrary or just manufactured for fun. People now claim everything is a plot hole because the writer didn't immediately hold their hand and spoon-feed them the answer
Juts sounds like he wanted answers and more explanation… like Bru it’s a mystery for a reason bc knowing makes it not cool
@@Fiemus9 everytime he talks it's a sin, even if it's just him saying something like "she's hot" like wouldn't that be a good thing?
the shoe was a "bad miracle", that shoe just standing there by itself was what saved little Jupe from being killed by the chimp. Because he looked at the shoe and not "gordy" in the eyes, he wasnt perceived as a threat to the animal. It wasnt due to his "relationship" with Gordy, since gordy was played by 3 different chimps. And allegadly if you listen carefully, when it got shot another balloon popped at the same time on the set, meaning that if another second had passed, Jupe would've been killed just like the rest of the cast. Jupe hold on to the idea of being special, that having some sort of special bond with "Gordy" saved him, and this was what later on got him, his family and the public eaten by jean jacket. Like the movie says, you cannot tame an animal, only make a deal with it. We are not the main species nor the special one, the one supposed to control the rest of them, we are simply one more in this world, proving that we are not the center of the universe. Peele explained in an interview that animals have this existencial horror factor to their existence, because they remind him that we are not that special
Well said
Also kind of ties into the addage "waiting for the other shoe to drop", its representative of the tension of the scene and how Jupe is just waiting for Gordy to tear him apart, but because the tablecloth separates them he doesn't take Jupe as a threat. I think Jupe put it on display in the same position because his superstitious attitude makes him think, maybe even subconsciously, that he's special as long as the shoe doesn't drop. Also just kind of the idea that humans will use any unusual phenomena they can cling to as a means of explaining away their trauma, and even guilt.
@@xbigsoup nice take!! i couldnt agree more
@@natehatetrain9284 He just watched FilmComicsExplained video ahah
Great take!
It makes me so sad some people didn’t get OJ’s character. He was my favorite part of the movie and he felt so real. He was the smartest out of all of them and perfectly embodied that wise cowboy trope while showing softness for his family (including his horses)
It honestly hurts a bit, cause I'm exactly as outwardly "emotionless" as he is, and hearing people call him boring and robotic hits a bit too close to home
I think many of them miss that OJ wasn’t performative meaning he doesn’t play into the big emotions and big expressions of a caricature of a Black man, of what media portrays is a “Black man” in their exploitation of Black men. Especially in a movie about the exploitation of Blacks in movies.
he cared so much for his familys horses! even with the alien known as a predator he had mouths to feed, he had a job to do. yeah he had some luck but it was already established hes a shy/quiet man who doesnt directly look at people so him, someone who also works with aninals, figuring that out makes perfect sense! he's a well done character who i was devastated when i thought he had been eaten.
@@raccoonsincocoons5643 right? im socially anxious like he is and i liked that the main character who is shown to be one of the smarter and braver characters in the movie who also had those traits of being a "quiet" person! honestly if someone finds him boring they genuinely dont get him as a character.
I loved OJ as a character, and I do not consider myself particularly media literate. I often find it hard to understand characterization in films, but OJ was done so well and was, not necessarily easy to read, but easy to relate to and understand.
The motorcyclist had a reflective helmet, he is quite literally a reflection of people like Logan who thrive off of spectacle
My biggest problem is that Jordan Peele's work will always be compared to his first film just because of how well received it was. His new films and work can never stand alone as a project because "fans" want to be fed the same thing again in the most obvious ways
the marvel curse.....
I feel like a lot of great directors fall into that trap like Francis Ford Coppola for example when you think of him you probably think of The Godfather trilogy but he has many great films they just get overshadowed by The Godfather trilogy.
True. Let the man shows his ranges. He's proven that he can be excellent in both comedy and thriller/horror. So just let him explore and do what he wants.
I don't understand why people just want the same movie again and again, just with different actors and soundtracks. Also the need for franchises and sequels and spin-offs. Like sometimes, even the director and studio are so focus on that they fail to actually finish the current movie, leaving things for the sequels. What happened to making a self contained one off movie?
See I’m in the complete opposite camp here as a Peele fan. I think Get Out is his worst film (it’s still a great one I’m not saying it isn’t)…Nope and Us in my opinion have more rewatch-ability than Get Out. Once you know the twist of get out it isn’t as good on rewatches.
I feel exaclty the same with Ari Asters's works
Daniel Kaluuya's acting was absolutely my favorite part. Just because youre not hamming it up doesnt mean youre not acting. You could practically see his thoughts on screen just by his pauses and his stares. It was brilliant.
Well coming from someone with Logan Paul's discography that perception of what good or entertaining acting is shouldn't really surprise anyone
He is really a good actor.
Exactly! thought he was amazing, playing a quiet shy introverted man whos just gone through some trauma and is struggling. he was amazing
Exactly!
also the fact that his character is more comfortable around animals and you can see how that translates to how he interacts with other humans. the minute details daniel put in were incredible! not to mention that of course oj is gonna be more reserved because he lost his father recently and is clearly still processing his grief.
The irony of Logan not understanding OJ's lack of need to immediately say everything he's thinking especially before he has a complete understanding is chefs kiss
The shoe standing upright is part of the "There's no such thing as a bad miracle" part. The shoe being upright is what made Jupe look at it and since he was looking at the shoe, the monkey didn't feel threatened, and we know this is important because it is literally told to us in the film set scene with the horse. The shoe is what kept him, Jupe, alive.
I mean ... this is all conjecture. I wish Peele would reveal (ha that rhymes) some backstory but until that happens ... yes.
@@Future_Guy how is it conjecture? It is literally what happens. Jupe doesn't get killed just because he wasn't looking right at the chimp: first because he was looking at the "bad miracle" of the shoe (which he later frames for that reason) and secondly because the tablecloth was between the two.
@@Future_Guy Every other fcking scene with an animals says: Don't look in the eyes. Don't make Eye Contact. Don't Look At It.
Does Peele need to beat you with a giant eyeball for the message to be more obvious?
@@sarasthoughts Late, super sorry. I heard this theory that the upright shoe wasn't actually upright in the moment. But Jupe just remembered it that way.
Logan is assuming that because it is an alien it must have near human or beyond human level intelligence because that's how aliens are usually portrayed in media, when it is so clearly meant to be interpreted as an animalistic predator. Cats, even big cats, attack things that are not actually prey but trick them into thinking they are. Cats are intelligent, but in the way animals are intelligent. The alien has animal intelligence. How did he not get that
no literally like his comment of “how did it not realize that wasn’t actually food lol” is so dumb when you consider that’s how we literally trap animals. it’s called bait bro
Esp since it looks a lot like a jellyfish or insect. It doesn't need to be intelligent to be a great hunter. It just needs to be large, fast, and have a large range of prey to catch... like a large open mouth/stomach that just sucks in.
the alien reminded me a lot of a stallion, especially at the end when it was squaring up to the giant inflatable. the alien the entire time seemed like a parallel to the horses it consumed.
Well considering the technology it possesses surely it’s not just animal intelligence? What animal can create Flying objects let alone ones that defy the laws of physics
@@charlesbaker7505 it’s an alien movie about an alien creature. It doesn’t have to adhere to physics. In many pieces of science fiction, there are space animals, that’s basically all the ET is. It’s just an animal that wound up on earth and is feeding.
To the point of OJ being a “vanilla” character or whatever Logan said, I imagine it was also about representing the different personalities Black men can have. Black men do not always have to be loud and boisterous or suave and sexy. Rarely are they allowed to be soft-spoken, shy, or awkward without being a joke. Furthermore, the “cowboy of few words” archetype is a mainstay of classic Westerns. Even if OJ wasn’t elevated to a complex character by Peele’s writing and Kaluuya’s fantastic acting, OJ would still fit the bill. I think it’s just harder to recognize because audiences are not used to seeing variety in Black male characters’ personalities.
Or he could just be a bad character and you don’t have to hide behind the façade of him being black
That’s what exactly what I was thinking. I’m a big black woman but I am also very quiet. you wouldn’t believe how many people are shocked when they first hear me speak or see that I prefer to be a loner. And I have had on several occasions have had a white person use AAVE or Ebonics when speaking to me and no one else when I don’t even speak like that. He seemed to be in disbelief someone of that complexion could be quiet and thoughtful.
@@chrischika7026 His acting and subtle mannerisms alone carry the character of OJ, one of a few actors who can EASILY just become a character on par with Dafoe imo. OJ being softspoken not the loud or outgoing was also interesting bc much like Peele's work there's always an undertone of how black people are treated, hell dude did you not remember the white woman go "His name is OJ 😳😳😳😳" which is why the commenter brought up the obvious of Daniel being black. The best part about this is that Daniel being softspoken and quiet but always attentive is what helps drive the plot too (That and of course the character is still trying to cope with the brutal loss of his father)
Honestly as a white guy when I saw the movie I thought he was pretty boring but I now have a new perspective because of your comment. You really don't see a variety of black personality types in film, and I think now that I've realized that I actually like his character and acting a lot more.
@@chrischika7026 sorry but you assuming OJ’s character is supposed fall into the “unconventional black man” trope isn’t as good of a take as you thought.
Another point I wanted to share with someone about the "why is he feeding horses to the alien" thing is it completely works with the theme of the movie. Gordy, the chimp, goes on to attack the cast members because not only were they making direct eye contact with him, but they were also doing things that causes animals stress (the balloons suddenly popping, loud audience, etc). If they had respected him as an animal and understood that they can't just put human clothing on him and expect him to act human they would not have put him in that situation and the tragedy would not have happened.
Jupe's character does the exact same thing to the "alien" later in the movie by feeding it - Like for example, with bears, it's common for them to live alongside humans in the woods without directly interacting. However, when you start feeding them they begin to associate humans with food and lose that natural fear that's healthy/essential for them to have. It ends up with the bear, either intentionally or not, attacking people and entering human settlements because they have been trained to associate people with food. An animal that big might end up tearing through people to get to their backpacks where they might have food, killing hikers simply because of it's size and power. Yet, a lot of the time in these situations people continue to try to feed bears because they feel some sort of "connection" or that they're "cute," not realizing that the animal does not have the same emotions as them. (sidenote - bears apparently have really gorgeous eyes, and one woman who had her face ripped off by one and survived mentioned how stunned she was at how beautiful they were... as her face as being torn off).
The exact same thing happens with Jupe and the alien. Rather than respecting it as an animal he believes he has some sort of "personal connection" and that he's "training" it to come to him on command. What he's actually done is trained it to associate people with food, and by doing that the animal has lost it's fear of humans. I think this plays into why the creature spits out all the blood and "refuse" from the people over the house later in the film - it's not it's "normal diet" and it ejects the waste, almost like defecating or how birds of prey cast pellets, because the majority of what humans are made up of aren't digestible to it. I think it's also telling that the movie ends with the cast having to "euthanize" it much like a bear that's been fed too often does, because it has crossed that line and cannot learn to fear humans again.
I don't think the timeline completely matches up, but it could be that it naturally/accidentally eats humans every so often while trying to get to horses (and picks up a rider with it), and why the father ends up dying in the beginning. The amount of trash it spits out is vastly different compared to the amounts it spits out later in the film, and additionally, it begins to "learn" that by destroying the houses it can force people out of them and starts specifically targeting them. So the creature might have originally eaten large prey like buffalo, horses, cows, etc. and once Jupe taught it to stop fearing humans and associate them with food was when it began to start seeing humans as a food source - and maybe even why it begins to get more territorial against the ranchers in specific because it no longer fears them.
In the opening shot of the film, we can hear the radio news saying some hikers had gone missing some time ago. That was probably the alien’s first feeding. Which is why it had to vomit out all the non-organic stuff that fell on OJ’s ranch killing his father.
Also, a huge reference of the film is to Skinwalker Ranch. This place is a legend in Ufology.
@@loudsilence456 Good catch! I missed the intro news story as I was futzing around with getting settled in with my popcorn the first time round lol. I know Jordan Peele and others who worked on the movie talked about how they tried to keep the "alien" based off things you can find living in the ocean, so it might not be an actual alien and just something that survived in the wild, evading people, until it got that big/graduated from eating wild horses to people.
I like the "it originally ate horses" idea since the theme park owner started feeding it horses without any real difficulty (or at least that we know of).
YOU. YOU UNDERSTAND THE THEMES AND IDEAS ABOUT CREATING A SPECTACLE OUT OF ANIMALS IN THEIR NATURAL HABITAT AND THE IDEA OF TAMING VERSUS TRAINING AN ANIMAL IN THIS MOVIE.
Just a quick thing the alien probably wouldn't have performed the massacre at Jupiter's Claim if they hadn't accidently eaten the plastic horse
The UFA believed they had been betrayed by Jupe and wanted "revenge" or that since everyone was looking at the UFA it just went a bit insane due to it (just ut like Gordy)
i think it spat out the blood because it had the plastic horse stuck in its throat and the blood came from people being crushed up against the horse. It couldn't digest the blood as it normally would because it had to throw up
For the whole movie, I thought Antlers was incredibly depressed and uninterested in the commercial side of film making. I thought he had a passion for the art itself and was depressed because he was never able to get the perfect shot. When he was on the phone to Palmer's character while watching predators consume prey, it looked like he was...searching for something. He was analysing the film rather than just viewing/seeking gore. I think he'd lost his passion for his craft and this experience signalled to him that this was what he was [artistically] waiting for. He wanted to die to get the perfect shot because that was what he wanted from his life. It didn't matter if other people didn't get to see it or if he got to see other people seeing it. Getting the perfect shot was his life's purpose.
When antlers first showed up at the beginning my mom said "sounds like lung cancer", and after that point I saw him as a man that knew he didn't have long left to get his "perfect shot". He would be willing to die if he got that shot because that's all that mattered anymore.
@@TriforceChad That makes sense. I think that is another case of really subtle characterization.
@@TriforceChad Glad I wasn't the only one that had those thoughts, I was reading the comments wondering if I misremembered the film or something because I was sure there were subtle hints that he had some kind of terminal health issue
@@emmao6578 he takes some pills at one point
@@TriforceChad I thought I was going crazy seeing no one address this anywhere! Dude was coughing frequently enough for it to definitely be purposeful, immediately assumed he had lung cancer, so everything past that just makes sense.
I think the motorcycle guy was supposed to represent the "faceless media"; they don't show his face or voice because he's not one character, he's every individual hiding behind a screen or camera, feeding off the exploitation at hand. It's not just the creator who's at fault, it's the audience that encourages it
AKA people like Logan Paul himself.
Plus down to the single eye hole for his camera- the obsession with witnessing spectacle but not wanting to have to face being hurt in pursuing it
@@BellaSwan18 I think the single eye hole also indicates the media having "tunnel vision"; only seeing what they want to see or being unwilling to think of repercussions. Also you need both eyes for depth perception which is vital for most. Using one eye is inhibiting, such as media not watching with both eyes to see the full picture.
I figured that it meant that even the anonymous vultures of media are still subject to the same relentless consumption of the audience, and though they think theyre safe by hiding their identities, they still feel that pressure that anyone else does to perform under extreme circumstances
It was just really corny. I think Peele is slightly better than Colin Trevorrow. That bike scene reminded me of the cartoonish and ill placed characters Colin placed in his latest Jurassic world movie. Very pretentious. Calling more attention to itself than it actually possessed.
Go figure, the guy who literally exploited the one of the worse things you can exploit for money and sensation didn’t get that the theme of the movie was exploitation.
P.S. I’ve seen the idea that the shoe standing up straight is another “bad miracle” like OJ talks about later in the movie. Something phenomenal and amazing but not necessarily good.
this!!! i will never forget about that situation so im not sure how i didn't connect the irony in all of this but im glad you did for me 😅
Perfect link, of course Logan fucking Paul wouldn’t understand nope lmao
I was literally saying this throughout this whole video. Kinda flew over his head, didn’t it 😂
In tracking with the bad miracle, it saved Jupe's life because he was so focused on it when Gordy went off that he never made eye contact with Gordy. The only time he did was through the table cloth. I think it ties in with the big monster attacking due to eye contact.
@@hotarubinariko that is such a great point!!
Daniel Kaluuya was incredible in Nope. It’s sad that his fantastic acting and ability to emote without words was lost on some people.
Absolutely. My favorite performance of the movie.
Dude, I am in awe every single time I watch it.
How does this actor from the UK, portray such a perfect image of a grieving cowboy whose objective/work is bigger than his emotions?
Daniel Kaluuya is outstanding, one of my favorites.
Agreed! Autistic, non-emotive human beings exist, and loud attention ho'ez don't really seem to comprehend that they have real feelings and emotions... SMH
i hate when people criticize artists’ work when it’s something that’s not similar to their previous work. people change, they try knew things, it’s called evolving. even if you don’t like it because it is something that seems foreign, you have to understand that that’s still the same person whose work you’ve admired before. you don’t have to like it, but just respect the artist and respect their changes.
You do realize that our entire society is critiquing these days. People are allowed to not like things. Even things from talented artists that have done things you previously liked. If the movie you put out needs to have some meta aspect understood to make it enjoyable then you as the artist need to make sure that it's understood. Part of the problem with this movie was that it was marketed as a horror movie, but it was more a less thrilling thriller.
I didn't hate Nope, but i do believe the hype and mismarketing for this movie is what helped destroy it and Iead to such a let down and low rating.
omg the motorcycle guy take drove me insane. The reflective helmet wasn't to be '''mysterious''' it was to make him unsaveable because there was no way for him NOT to 'look the monster in the eye' if he's covered in mirrors. Kind of like how he was also unsaveable because of his obsession with getting his camera over his own safety. I thought it was fantastic
Also (I'm pretty sure) the helmet is supposed to resemble the reflective SFX ball that causes Lucky to get scared and lash out in the same way it causes the alien to
@@degeneratemilkhater5696 Yeah!! I forgot to mention that in my comment but I completely agree
Also that they probably don't want their face shown as it could cause all sorts of legal issues when committing crimes, such as entering a property and filming without permission. Plus the ensemble fits the characterization of a "faceless person at TMZ that reflects the world/mass media" extremely well.
like bro he literally looks like the thing that spooked lucky on the film set
@@GodrowKil You're so right! There's so many reasons that make more sense than 'mysterious for no reason' or 'set up as a reveal later'. It didn't cross my mind that the TMZ guy would ever be 'revealed', I have no idea what logan was talking about
I always viewed the shoe as just sheer luck. Among all the chaos, that single shoe stood upright, something that had a one in a million chance of happening. Just like how Gordy spared Jupe. Gordy went on a vicious killing spree and only spared Jupe because his brain just happened to click back to a trained action, the fist bump. Plus, right before Gordy gets shot, you can hear another balloon pop. So if the cop didn't shoot Gordy, Jupe definitely would've died. But Jupe thought that Gordy spared him because he was special, he had this connection with him. And that's why he thought he could tame the alien, but in the end Jupe realizes that he's not special and is going to die a horrible death.
It’s a bad miracle. Like the alien, eye contact with Gordy would guarantee death for Jupe. The shoe standing upright was a one-in-a-million event that captured Jupe’s attention, saving his life. It’s simply a bad miracle.
@@joshyboy7239 yes the theme of bad miracles is very prevalent in Nope
I read that we were seeing it as Jupes memory showed it, he has it displayed standing in his shrine, so thats how he remembers it now.
Not only is the shoe just a dumb chance thing. There's lots of easy explanations that make it a bad miracle in that it's not miraculous at all.
You’re a genius
The irony that he doesn’t understand how a character is willing to die for a better shot when he literally almost murdered his career filming in that Japanese forest is just MWAH.
Camera guy made sense. In the end he didnt heed his own advice: “the dream were you stand at the top of the mountain and everyone is looking at you in awe, is a dream youre not like to wake up from.”
In the end he went for the peak of the mountain and died for it.
The irony of Logan Paul not understanding the movie is so disturbing and hilarious at the same time 😭
when i think abt it too hard i wanna throw up… reminds me of motorcycle guy. seemingly oblivious to the danger and immortality of his actions while only thinking abt the attention they’d get
I makes absolute sense though. The film’s primary theme is the toxicity of spectacle culture. So of course a narcissist known for making a spectacle of himself isn’t going to understand it. He’s literally incapable of processing that kind of criticism
That's peak not having self-awareness
the movie was really bad tho
Mid movie but its not the worse, logan trippin , the movie was a OKAY movie
Logan's comment on Daniel Kaluuya's character made me PHYSICALLY angry because everything about OJ as a character made complete and total sense. I mean, if I were to watch my dad die miraculously right before my eyes and he were to bleed out in my car RIGHT NEXT TO ME, I'd be pretty standoffish too. And it didn't seem like he wanted anything to do with the commodification of the horses in the first place but saw it as a means to an end because "we gotta pay for the farm somehow, don't we?" And in terms of his "silent" performance, Daniel Kaluuya does FANTASTICALLY in terms of portraying the subtleties of OJ as a character. Every eye movement, every silent stare, every bit of body language was as important as a full monologue. Also, his silence is supposed to contrast against Emerald's loud personality to create that dichotomy between not only their character motives but how they see everything that's happening.
Totally agree with you on Kaluuya’s performance. I think a lot of people have been trained to think if an actor isn’t doing grand, explosive portrayals of emotion, like yelling, wailing, or the building explosion of anger, a huge chunk of audiences don’t recognize it as good acting. You can really see it in the “best acting” compilations on this site. Performances that are subtle and natural don’t register with some people.
Also, OJ is a man who grew up with horses and has been training horses his entire life since childhood. Horse people understand that his tendency only to show subtle emotion on his face, and move in ways that aren’t sudden, and not express himself in a loud emotional voice is because that is how he has had to be to work with the horses.
He is also an observant, intelligent person, who is able to think through the behavior of the UFO, come to the conclusion it is an alien and figure how to deal with an alien predator based on his knowledge as an animal trainer.
I don’t see how being a quiet, calm, thinking black man who saves the day through his expertise in his field by using his intellect instead of overpowering the antagonist through physical violence and hyped up emotions all while showing serious self-control and bravery is in any way a disappointment.
We should get to see more men like OJ represented in cinema. I think the reaction to him as “boring” or that Kaluuya’s acting was wasted are driven by disappointment at not getting to see a black character conform to the black action hero stereotype.
Kaluuya’s acting was so subtle and effective. It takes way more talent to act with subtle micro expressions than to fight and rage and dominate with violence. He was the best part of the movie for me.
@@jestenia590 the Tommy Wiseau view of acting -- read the Disaster Artist if you never did, it goes into depth about how he grew up thinking good acting meant screaming and crying like Marlon Brando every time you open your mouth
It seems as though he wanted a stereotypical black male character
@@justheretocommentokdontwan685 very true
I felt like the point of antlers dying was that he was so jaded that he desperately needed to get that perfect shot, but that sharing it with the world would ruin the sanctity of it. so he simultaneously gets the impossible shot and destroys any chance of anyone else ever seeing it
I love how all his complaints are literally THE themes and it just completely went over his head.
He's a guy who likes pop music and is just like why is this indie song not a pop song?
i dont think you disagree with his takes as much as you just dont like logan paul cosnidering your focusing on him liking pop music lmao
@@proofessor8062 I don't think that you understand my comment.
@@proofessor8062 you misinterpreted a comment criticizing misinterpretation
Dear high schoolers griping about that book review they have to write - this is why theme analysis, symbolism, and all that jazz is important. Your teacher is trying to keep you from getting clowned on by Twitter 😅
Literally....
A lot of the elements Logan Paul where complaining about where pretty irrelevant to the so called themes of the movie though, themes which did seem pretty slapped on and superficial (predator/prey relationships in hollywood/media etc) - none of the underlying themes where actually taken to much depth other than "see what i did there" levels of exploration. So I think some sentiment of Paul's is pretty justified, but in my opinion NOPE is still a phenomenal movie (easily one of the best this year) despite it's imperfect handling of extraneous themes.
I completely forgot Logan Paul existed and after watching this video and hearing his review, I would like to go back to that
She was like “his name in the title will help my paycheck” but I read the title and for a hot second I was like “who tf is that” I’ve been actively ignoring their existence for a while
LOL!! Same, it just goes to show how long I've been avoiding social media and gossip. It has greatly improved my mental health. But now I'm back......
@@malloryg4251 ngl the drama sometimes keeps you entertained but after awhile you definitely have to take a step back…
Cope
I didn’t even recognize his name, I just read “Logan… Paul…” and I somehow just didn’t realize it was him lol
I interpreted the man on the motorcycle entirely as a joke. He was framed as a mysterious stranger arriving in the eleventh hour, setting up the audience’s expectations, only to have those expectations subverted with the reveal that he’s from TMZ. pretty straightforward.
The shoe can also be seen as a literal interpretation of “waiting for the other shoe to drop” the entire movie builds up to Jean jackets first attack on people. From the first chimp scene we see a parallel between them and Gordy and when Gordy first attacks jupe we see the shoe standing there like a bad miracle and finally about half way through we see the peak of this build up and jupe finally get what was gonna happen to him on the set that day
this is exactly how i interpreted it!!
Jean jacket was eating humans long before the star lasso scene. In the beginning of the movie, a radio said they’re looking for hikers, and a little later screams from Jean jackets victims (the hikers) can be heard. The coin and key and other junk that fell from the sky were the hiker’s belongings.
that thing about the alien shapeshifting and being really quick and quiet is like saying "What so sharks can smell blood from a mile away but can't tell the difference between a person and a seal, that's unrealistic" like why...what reason would a shark have to tell the difference between those two things, humans aren't a regular part of their environment...
The way I saw the shapeshifting was it being hurt from the barbed wire that Angel had wrapped himself in, and going all big and puffy as some sort of threat display, like.. y’know.. an animal-
As much as I don’t want him to keep getting attention, I feel like we still need remember that he and his brother are like, to put it nicely: a fault in our society
Edit: it’s always after it’s too late that I remember that the word “society” is more trouble than It’s worth
And that society is what got them where they are now. Society is part of that fault.
@@lunaticberserker5869 Alright Michael Scott. "If it's me, then society made me that way."
@@RudyGGs Think about it, who put them where they are right now, surely people in the society he's talking about, they're part of that ;)
@@lunaticberserker5869 that’s what makes them a fault in our society friend, the fact everyone supported them to this ridiculous place.
@@jesse85 True.
The “it’s not that deep” part for the TMZ/blogger guy and the co-star (and most likely still friend) of Jupe coming to the show is also a recurring thing in people trying to break down Peele films. Everyone wants to find some deep meaning and wind up either pulling metaphors out of their ass or being mad at the film when they can’t assign said metaphors in a coherent way when Jordan never intended the metaphor to exist anyway. It’s like when people theorized the girl from Get Out eating the fruit loops separate from the milk was meant to be “symbolic of her desire to separate color from white” and in an interview Jordan Peele was just like nah I just thought it was a weird way to eat fruit loops.
I remember that! 🤣🤣
I kind of just understood the title cards as "this horse will die now." After it happened twice, it was a nice surprise (in hindsight; in the moment I was terrified) to see the audience being eaten first. Then when that final card of "Jean Jacket" shows up, you really have that feeling that we're heading into the climax. That's how I felt about them anyway
The shoe was also blatant foreshadowing "waiting for the other shoe to drop" literally letting the audience know that it's going to happen again.
Also Daniel acted his A$$ OFF in this movie.
Kaluuya was insane as always. It's kind of upsetting to see his incredible work be overlooked because he isn't loud and comical enough... Im sure we don't need to go into why people wanted him to be loud and comical to be valid as a lead.......... ... ....
I didn’t catch that foreshadowing but I still liked the film regardless. How does one get better at noticing those details?
@@gabrielidusogie9189 Some things that helped me (im no expert btw, just an average film watcher who really enjoys over-analysing movies)
Engage in media discourse , reviews , analysis , theories. It's pretty interesting to see how someone can interpret art with a completely different take than others, especially the average watcher vs someone more knowledgeable .
See how ideas are translated to depending on its format (e.g movies , musicals , stage , and books will use COMPLETELY different ways to portray the same story) You can get a better understanding of media when you understand its workings (so study visuals , music scores , a directors signature style and why the love to use it. even the characters clothing impacts the story, like how OJ wears orange and Emerald wears green. both of those colours represent the screens used in movies sets like in the beginning .)
(one of my fav movie songs to listen to is "I've got 5 on it" in US. It's so cool to see a regular song take a completely different meaning and feel as the movie progressed)
A few of my fav channels that helped me notice stuff :
Lindsey ellis
Jenny Nicholson
ModernGurlz
Pop culture dectivive
@@gabrielidusogie9189 oh and Sideways is a good channel too
@@selty
The movie even predicted that would happen and called out the way poc fall into tokenism for audience comfort
I see the director Antler, and the TMZ motorcycle guy as two sides of modern media consumption. The director is clearly dedicated to film making and devoted to the craft, but is still only directing small projects like the commercial in the beginning of the film. He sacrifices himself for the "perfect shot" not to be thrust into fame, but because he is willing to die for the art of creating film. The TMZ guy wants all of the glory with out doing any of the work, he just wants the inside scoop and the miracle shot. I see his death as being consumed by the idea of fame/exposure. One is famous for his work and inherently becomes consumed by it, one wishes to be famous so badly they ultimately are consumed by their need for exploitation.
clearly Logan has not seen the artists willing to die to make their art. I don't know if his mind is capable of understanding anyone like that. I can't imagine what he thinks good art is. Although trying not to art shame him.
What really stuck out to me about that scene was the tapes director guy scarified his life for ending up getting destroyed with him, making his death in vain
Also Antler was dying from Lukemia. Thats why he didn't care about dying for the perfect shot. Remember when he was taking the pills.
@@jmar5127 Forget about that point. Dude was already sick.
something that stuck with me was that Antler was editing some nature footage when we see his studio, so of course he would die to get some good footage of an animal no one has seen before
I really liked nope bc it was actually a really logical and realistic depiction of animal behavior. Which is especially hard to find with fictional species/aliens. It learns. It seeks the steadiest and easiest food supply. It eats to sustain itself as well as to express aggression. It has its own instinctive set of rules for interacting with other animals. It didn't hesitate to eat the guy who'd been feeding it for the past 6 months, either because it didn't understand their relationship the way Jupe did or because he broke one of its social rules (probably both). They even inadvertently taught it not to eat things with little multi colored flags on them the same way a lot of poisonous organisms have bright memorable colors to deter predators (I remember eating that brightly colored thing and it hurt my tummy, so now
I will not eat those). It hid and stalked prey, and would even modify its behaviors to improve its hunting. The shape shifting was literally just the alien turning inside out as an aggressive/defensive display (iirc some sea creatures do this). And I'm under the impression that the electrical interference was a byproduct of its levitation, not an intentional ploy. Plus it was a Super creative alien design while also just being a big starfish dwai. Your review was good the only thing you got wrong was that horses are in fact more creature than animal.
My sister who’s a zookeeper and studied wildlife ecology showed Nope to me, and it is one of the few movies I’ve ever seen her get excited about. (She’s not quite as stoic as OJ but pretty up there lol.) The themes around and depictions of animal exploitation and the dangers of anthropomorphism were phenomenal. And Jean Jacket’s behavior and ecology felt extremely believable while still being a convincing alien creature.
And yes, horses are Creatures.
I'll admit, my sister and I went into this film thinking it was gonna be a creepy alien horror movie. We were confused af throughout most of it, and when it was over both said "That movie was weird. Which probably means it was symbolic for something that we just didn't pick-up on". And sure enough lol. After hearing people explain what it was meant to be a metaphor about, it made a lot more sense to me, and I have a deep appreciation for it now!
I think the audio-mixing was part of the problem for me tho, because half the time I couldn't make out what the characters were saying because they were so quiet and mumbly? Mix that with a sensory-processing disorder and woo great time! I usually watch films with subtitles turned on, so when it's released on streaming platforms I'll definitely be watching it again WITH subtitles so I don't miss anything important lol
I had the same experience!!
The audio mixing was impeccable and I could make everything out perfectly so I don’t get that but it can be confusing upon first watch
@@judtt Same, I'm confused, considering the movie sounding as good as it did was a reason I liked it so much.
@@tomemeornottomeme1864 you should
@@judtt I’ve had bad experiences with weird dialogue audio in theatres and then rewatching the movie either at a different theatre or on streaming it sounds much better. Tenet is my example of weird sound, the theatre I watched it in cranked down all the dialogue and upped all the explosions but when I rewatched it on Netflix, everything sounded way better. So it could be theatre. (All the theatres in my city have decided to spend the least amount of money possible on projector light bulbs, so every movie is also way darker than it should be, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they bought the cheapest speakers too.)
So about the shoe: Jordan Peele was expressing a pretty uncommon thing within scenes with large amounts of tension, in which the audience (or those within a scene) are "waiting for the other shoe to fall", which is an idea that I can't quite pinpoint in it's origin. Instead of saying "this scene is incredibly suspenseful", Peele shows this through the shoe standing up and forces us to ask the question "when is that shoe going to fall" but we don't see it fall within the scene, further dragging out the suspense and tension. In doing so, he uses the "show don't tell" rule in one of the most literal forms of its use.
I've seen that before in the Japanese horror 'Kairo', idk if its the origin tho
I also figured that the shoe is a bad miracle in and of itself. That shoe staying perfectly upright amidst the chaos is definitely a "Nope".
That's really cool
no.. i think its more literal than that... the child actor focusing on the shoe protected him from being mauled *because* he was staring at an amazingly stupid freak accident of the shoe landing perfectly in a scene of chaos and murder... it *is* about tension, but not so metaphorical.... i saw it as as absurdity, a common theme in this movie
@@toericabaker that’s a very interesting take i like that
Of course he's allowed to his opinions, but Logan Paul failing to understand the point of a movie that is kind of, in a way, ABOUT. HIM. is delicious
That wasn't his gripe. Things didn't link up properly
@capt truth nah
@@TehStylishone All things were deliberate, no fluff from start to finish and everything lined up perfectly. Pure entertainment.
@capt truth shut up
@@TehStylishone why do you think movies exist to watch it again
The motorcycle guy didn’t need a face. His helmet was the defining part of his character, as it’s entirely a callback to the beginning sequence where the horse freaks out from seeing his reflection.
The shoe standing up also reminded me of Dorothy’s shoes on display from Wizard of Oz, in addition to Jupe’s collection. I think it’s a visual metaphor and iconography, and how he saw opportunity to exploit the tragedy. I think Peele did this multiple times throughout the film. There’s a very clever motif where Jean Jacket drops the metal horse (specifically it’s head) through OJ’s windshield. As it’s covered in blood, it feels like a cinematic callback to the scene from The Godfather. You know the one. There were a lot of things like this in the movie, and it’s for the sake of artistry, and can be reasonably accepted under suspension of disbelief. Logan Paul is a thoughtful critic as much as I’m the host of the ImPAULsive Podcast.
To me the mirror was to be like this could be anyone like we've seen how in accidents or disasters anyone can just pull out their phone and start recording
@@eva1585 that's true. It doesn't matter WHO he is, we know he's from TMZ and that's enough. Literally what difference would his face make?
@@eva1585 the shape of the helmet also distorts whatever's being reflected, which proves that exploitative news sources like TMZ or just people in general can warp the reality or true nature of what they're witnessing, just to turn it into a spectacle.
I believe that OJ being as calculating and sparse in exposition is deliberate, especially when held in contrast with nearly every other character being dialogue-heavy. In a movie about spectacle, someone being very deliberate in speech/show holds a lot of weight.
"A creature so advaced that it can fully shapeshift and fly without making a sound" Ok so according to Logan Paul, butterflies are the most advanced species on eart.
I also find kinda strange that a lot of people are loosing their minds over the shoe's thing. To me, it's standing because the character is literally waiting for the shoe to drop. That's an expression in english right... for when you're waiting for something bad to happen. The shot is just a visual illustration of that expression because it is what the character is doing in the scene, that's just that.
The obsession over the show also demonstrates the state of media consumption these days
People focus on such trivial things instead of focusing on the bigger picture, on the literal bloodbath that is happening
OK the creature is a lot bigger than a butterfly, it's like the size of a whale.
It is dumb how easy they got rid of that creature.
@@ybpriest why "dumb" ? it was a simple animal, we knew it wasn't particularly intelligent from the beginning, since it consumed anything alive looking. It's more like it was dumb luck that they got a huge humanoid balloon that the creature took for a person. But it made perfect sense for the creature to consume it.
@@rini9325 I wouldn't have problem if it looked like simple animal but that animal moves with enormous speed, destroys everything in front of it, it does not look simple at all. but definitely the way they defeated the alien was too stupid for me, even if the alien wasn't that much of a threat, it was still defeated too easily. it felt like the movie spent time on a million other things, so in the end the conclusion had to fit in less than 5 minutes.
Gordy was also a title card. It wasnt just horses. I also think Jean Jacket didnt mean the horse but the "alien" creature. I absolutely adored the use of title cards in this film.
CinemaWins pointed out that except for Lucky, every character on the title card died in that chapter.
@@rozieredz And he didn't...probably because he WAS "lucky".
I had read in a review a possible explanation for the shoe that I really quite liked. Sometimes in moments of tragedy, when one is so pumped with adrenaline and fear, they’ll fixate on something inexplainable to distract themselves from being in the moment (and will usually exaggerate this inexplainable thing). The shoe might not have actually been standing upright, but Jupe, in his state of fear, could have exaggerated its position. I believe fixating on this shoe might’ve saved Jupe from Gordy (as his eyes weren’t on his but rather the shoe, and then of course concealed by the table cloth)
So one thing that stuck with me was the Gordy's Home actress being in the crowd. I noticed her in the trailer and it made her seem like a result of the alien from the movie. They never showed the chimp so I just assumed there was more to the movie like maybe some kind of alien virus outbreak, and she was a victim in the crowd like hiding in plain sight. So when I watched the movie, it was a bit jarring to see that she was the victim of a chimp attack they never put in the trailer, but ended up being the best opening scene I've seen in a bit. I thought it was brilliant. Nowadays trailers ruin every part of the movie they are showcasing. I felt like this was a genius way to show how a proper trailer can be misleading in a good way. You think you know how the movie will play out and then it's something completely different. Love the video, instantly subscribed. I'm not saying this is why she was there, I just thought it was an interesting realization when I watched it.
I really liked the film, and while watching, I noticed something neat. As a character; OJ definitely doesn't want to be the one in the spotlight. Quiet, shy, reserved, nervous; whatever you call it, he's not trying to take center stage. He also knows others don't want him there (the repeated "get out of the shot" when it gets stressful before they lose the gig). He knows animals, and he knows that there are things that need to be done. This is true at the start, but also in the climactic final sequence. When riding the horse and distracting Jean Jacket, the orange hoodie he wears says "CREW". Going out there does seem like a brave act, but really he's just doing his job, and when Jean Jacket is popped, he doesn't feel the need or want to overshadow Emerald's moment (by going to her, infront of all the news cameras). I think he definitely gains confidence in himself by the end, but his desire to stay outta the 'spotlight' remains a character trait, rather than a flaw, which is nice.
Also the story begins with his father on a horse while OJ is on the ground covering his face with the cap. In the end, he is on the horse and proud. I like your analogy of him staying in the shadow. There’s so many untold layers in this brilliant movie, it’s going to take a while to decipher it all. 👌🏽👽
GOD YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!! You just made me love OJ even more. Thank you for sharing!
I viewed the shoe as an example of a “bad miracle” as they talked about in the movie. Like, it’s a miracle that it happened, but the circumstances that made it happen were not worth it
Yeah, that itself is an example of “spectacle”, something spectacular that is brought about through something horrible that you can’t look away from
It’s also the reason Jupe lived when the Gordy incident happened. He was focused on the shoe and not on Gordy.
Exactly. It was a bad miracle and it kept him alive because it meant he was the only one not making eye contact with Gordy, including the tablecloth the covered his eyes.
i adored kaluuya’s character in this movie. i take care of animals for a living and i connected with OJ deeply, particularly in those infuriating moments where the people who hired him act like they understand what to do with this horse and BLATANTLY ignore his expert advice.. it’s also just cool seeing a quiet man who mainly wants to raise horses on his family ranch and live a quiet life come to be a hero through the skills he’s learned from his lifelong passion and work.
working with animals is often more difficult because of the humans around them than the creatures themselves. seriously. STOP staring them in the eyes. don’t run at them. don’t raise your little brat to think it’s acceptable to yank their ears till they’re in pain. i’m sorry your kid got bit, yeah, but only because you’re the one who should’ve been. listen to people when they tell you how to hold the animal. listen to people when they explain certain creatures are Not. Pets. please for fuck’s sake stop getting purebred herding and hunting dogs and then being angry when they have bowel movements and aren’t perfect furniture accessories. if you want a dog as décor go to a taxidermy shop, i’m sure you can find one that looks juuuust like the last 18 ones you’ve had (seriously, i called a border collie the wrong name for several years bc i had no idea the previous one had passed. i didn’t walk her often enough to notice specific markings & she was so overtrained i barely got to know her, and her name was laci. so i didn’t really notice that the text i got said ‘walk lexi’ a year or two later. why are rich people out here buying clones of their dead dogs like i get breed preference but i literally called an alive dog by a dead dog’s name for a YEAR. i’m not even sure if their current one is the same dog now).
no, 2 walks around the block daily is not adequate for your 1 year old SAINT BERNARD. your dog isn’t “completely untrainable”, you’re not working with their personality and expect them to follow orders perfectly even though you purchased a puppy with no life experience. even if your dog is an IDIOT, it can learn “no” and “off”. please buy things like basic dog supplies so i don’t get messages like “sorry we never got around to getting a water bowl lol” - i will feed your dog in your fine dishware if it’s durable enough for it. i could go on for eternity. google “puppy” before you buy one and click on an INFORMATION PAGE. PLEASE.
dogs & cats, ferrets, rats, etc have such beautiful personalities and are all incredibly unique, intelligent, and they’ve got some pretty strong emotions if you’re paying attention. treat them gently, listen to them, get to know them. they’re your friend. plus, if you piss them off, they’re really, really sharp.
i’ve never gotten the pleasure of working with horses but i see a lot of what goes into the emotional care of my animals in this film. the ability to recognize what’s making a creature hostile or agitated and adjust… i see kaluuya’s character use that ability like it’s second nature, like he’s used to people fucking this up but he’s never really understood why it is that they can’t just LISTEN to the creature. i’ve always felt the same. yeah movie absolutely slapped
It’s not just a lack of media literacy, but of self awareness 🗿
Question 9 upsets me for the simple fact that Daniel Kaluuya does solemn so well while very much still giving you emotion. something more well established actors still have trouble with. He wanted to see him fight an Alien like this is Predator
Which is a very racist thing because why can't the black character be passive? Why did he expect this character to be very active and aggressive? The character wasn't written that way because he had a lot of trauma.
Not necessarily just because the black man needs to be aggressive. I honestly think it’s more about previous alien movies. Majority of them have people fighting them. Example Independence Day.
And IMO I’m getting tired of the propaganda that every alien is going to harm you. Even in this one.
Why is every alien out to get us? If they cared enough to be around for as long as they have, as they’ve been reported throughout history they would have done something a long time ago.
Also in reality IF aliens are around they are more like to be similar to us where there are bad ones who don’t have good intentions and there are ones who have good intentions.
@@FukaiKokoro That's a racist stereotype. What are you even saying?
his characters feel like real people
Logan wanted kaluuya to have a “you messed wit the wrong cowboy ET” quote like this was supposed a new avengers movie
sometimes certain movies aren't for everyone. us and get out were certainly easy to digest for the average viewer, while peele took a different approach with nope. i really feel that you have to have an open mind to thoroughly enjoy movies like these. i think this movie is a breath of fresh air for myself. if peele kept going with the same style of movie, it would get old. i personally loved this movie. its up to interpretation.
I thought US was pretty bad tbh, it was too weird for me. Get out was pretty good though. I'm exited to see nope
You’re the first person in this comment section that hasn’t bashed people for not liking the movie or failing to appreciate the messages. Your take is completely valid and i agree 100%. People can simply not like something without being stupid for it
US and NOPE are definitely more abstract, I even had to tell friends before viewing US that it’s more like an extended episode of the twilight zone. But to be fair Get Out is also very bizarre when you actually think about it, but that’s horror in general. I agree tho that certain movies aren’t for everyone and I’d say that goes for both US and NOPE, Get Out is definitely suited for more general audiences! They even referenced this in NOPE when the director says “I usually do one for them so I can do one for myself”. But I personally think Jordan Peele’s films have just been getting better and better. The sound design alone in NOPE blew my mind!!
Immediately pissing on people who don’t like the movie, “you need to have an open mind to enjoy movies like these” insinuating people who don’t like it are close-minded, nah how about the movie is just not that good, pretty decent visuals a decent amount of suspense but ultimately it shits itself off a cliff and in 5 years Peele himself will be saying “yeah I could have done this better” it’s a 5/10 movie at most from a critical standpoint but if you enjoyed it good for you I’m glad you had a nice experience you extremely open minded person
@@charlesbaker7505 lmao now who's pissing on who
im genuinely grateful that i found out about this review through this breakdown of it. just the one thing though, about mary jo elliot's inclusion. nope is abt exploiting minorities for the sake of a spectacle but somehow disfigured characters and people in general don't get to be included in that conversation. horror is big on spectacle, and that includes either villainizing or dehumanizing disfigured people for shock factor.
i do think the choice of making jupe invite her to the demonstration was to comment on that even peripherally bc 'wow, did you hear he invited the actress who got mauled by an ape 20 years ago?'
Wow i literally gave jupe more credit thinking they went through a traumatic experience. People trauma bond and maybe this las a way for him to be like ‘hey, i still made it in entertainment!’ Kinda thing. To share with her his success.
Your way of seeing it, is definitely making more sense to me. He brought her to be a side show for people coming to see the real show
@@awooingstops It can be both, though. I don't think Jupe is a bad guy. Greedy yes, but not consciously so - he doesn't understand what he's doing is unhealthy or wrong. I think Mary Jo Elliot being used exploitatively was subconscious.
1. When I saw the shoe standing up I interpreted it as this: sometimes life is random. In the midst of this traumatic event, a shoe happened to balance upright. Jupe saves it and puts it in his office as a reminder of the distance he’s created between him and the event. If that makes sense?
2. For fun: I saw this movie with a group of horse wranglers I worked with at a western themed summer camp. To say it was surreal is accurate.
Every point he made in his “thesis” has an answer that directly ties to the meaning of the movie.
I think he’s entirely missed the point of the movie. I heard a similar review when I heard someone say “I love the wolf of Wall Street but I hate the ending. I usually just watch the first half. It makes me want to party!”
That’s exactly what Logan Paul’s Nope review makes me think of.
I thought it was amusing that the thesis was not in the first tweet, since the thesis is part of the introduction of the paper. It also is suppose to be a concise statement, which you support with the rest of the essay or dissertation. Must be nice being as rich as he is and not having to really have put much effort into schoolwork. I hated essays.
@@brettmastema7056 Another great point 😂
Some of the reviews for this movie cant help but make me cry laugh. I read a viewer say they fully got the movie and that it was boring and didn't explain much, right after saying they only watched half of Nope before walking out and reading the summary plot on wiki. i mean its okay to not like the movie, but come on man 😂🤣
@@Drumfreak127 Thanks, I so often am often trolling on political videos comments sections, I had to check what video it was before i could tell if you were being sarcastic or not. LOL
Most of the questions you can answer by watching the movie, I’m amazed he asked some of these.
“How did the coin kill his father?” We see more than once in the movie how the alien spits out what it won’t eat, forcefully. That kind of strength can turn a coin into a bullet.
i just don’t think symbolism is a part of logan paul’s vocabulary LMAO
Neither is his ability to think apparently.
@capt truth The other thing that's bad 79% rating is Paul brothers and his fanbase.
You seems to be one of taht as well.
I got to give props to Logan for going into deep detail as to why he thought the film was bad and decided to do a dissertation! Average movie goers on social media just say one liners “it sucked!” then don’t give at least one reason why they think so.
Tbh I loved that NOPE was positively refreshing at the end . It carried a weird sense of positivism that was tbh so refreshingly different that Us and Get Out. I loved the concept of the Alien being like a mollusks/jellyfish/squid water being.
I also loved that the Alien had a cowboy hat form. There’s a scene in which she (yes because I think the Alien was a she) was on top of OJ’s head . And it looked like a a cowboy hat .
Also for some reason I got confused when the Alien ate the cinematographer and went ‘angry’ and then changed form .
I thought the Alien had called her ‘mother alien’ as some animals would do . And that ‘the mother alien’ was indeed the bigger sort of Jellyfish cloud unmovable camouflaged , changed form being.
And throughout the movie I was with a sense of dread . Like where are the others ? Or it’s mate ? She couldn’t have been alone!😂 I thought another one was going to appear at the end.
I thought the Gordy’s Home Actress being there also showed people’s inability to control their desire for spectacle, even after experiencing (first hand) how dangerous the pursuit of it can be. This also ties in to the child actor who has the room full of pieces from the show because even the tragedy itself was a spectacle he couldn’t let go of.
Yeah, thats absolutely the point of the film. Tha alien is literally an eye lol that feeds on people and hates inorganic imitations. Also, a key moment to your point: how instead of actually recalling the incident, Jupe recalls the SNL skit version of it. Loved that scene
I also believe that because you see her still wear her merch from the show that she is the exact same as jupe
@@benh4579 yeah, it insinuates that she’s made her living off of the accident just like jupe
I totally missed her being the ape attack survivor and was like, "yeah ive seen meth heads out here who look like that." LOL I live near agua dulce. I only wish that place was out here, i would go to it.
id like to say as an equestrian, nope really impressed me. daniel literally rode with his elbows in and looked so calm while standing directly next to a horse, lead rope in hand. also the compton cowboys, a black equestrian group, overlooked the movie and as a black equestrian specifically, i am super happy with that. jordan peele never fails to amaze me.
I am curious, did it also bother you how often the horses were left in a state of distress (I'm not an equestrian, but I am fond of animals in general)? Like, obviously the real horses were fine, I'm speaking specifically of how in the fictional world the horses would be neighing up a storm and no one would do anything.
@@kenzij well the horses seemed awfully calm in the movie so i guess i’m not sure what you’re trying to get at. horses can be taught to rear, buck, etc. we do it a lot in liberty. horse sound effects are typically added for neighing and other distress sounds, you just record that when horses are acting naturally. two horses in a pasture may be playing and you can record some “distressing” sounds if they rearing, nipping or kicking at each other. i’ve seen behind the scenes for games that do it like that, they’ll record horses acting naturally to get the sounds they need like eating, moving, a lot of things. but then there’s also the magic of how many sounds are made by a sound artist (i think thats what they’re called oops).
@@kenzij a good way to tell if a horse is chilling/bored is the back leg lifted and ears facing out. lucky specifically was like that A LOT in the movie. he seemed laid back and didn’t seem to be in distress.
@@ghost1fer Yeah, my understanding of how they get the noises is similar. I was speaking of the world within the film where, like, the alien would come and go and the horses would be freaking out and OJ would, go back into the house or something. It made me feel weird because neither in a work of fiction or in reality have I seen horse people just leave when their entire stable is anxious like that.
@@kenzij ohh okay i see now. yeah that definitely pissed me off when left the horse in the trailer and ran for the house but i also think in a way it kept the horse safe like the alien couldnt see it through the trailer but i have no idea. it definitely made me mad.
I love Jordan Peele-he’s my favorite director and this is my favorite movie of his. The chimp is literally my favorite thing. The whole film is about exploitation in Hollywood. There was so much thought put behind this film, and I could watch it endlessly.
(Also, the shoe standing upright was meant to be a miracle, as in: Jupe was protected by a miracle, and the actress mauled is based on Charla Nash).
I think the shoe standing up was an instance of a “bad miracle” that OJ mentions later on in the movie. Something miraculous happening under terrifying circumstances.
The blood raining down on the house was also a call back to the quote at the beginning “and I will cast abominable filth on thee and make thee vile, I will make a spectacle of you”. Literally raining blood and sinew down onto our main characters.
I disagree about your take on the filmmaker. His whole deal was capturing the impossible shot. That was his whole artistic deal…the quest for the perfect shot. It’s more than seeking better lighting…he intended to get pulled into the alien. He wanted the shot. And he wanted to go out achieving his life’s work…filming the impossible. There were many hints (the coughing, the prescription) that he had a very serious/possibly terminal illness. He went out not as Icarus flying to close to the sun…he went out as a grand sacrifice to his life’s work.
I think the two points are not that dissimilar, except in whether one views that obsession as noble or not. I noticed the hints of his illness as well, and I could totally see how someone could go "this is my last chance, may as well go out with a bang". However, he seemed to fail to consider whether his "perfect shot" would even survive if he got eaten - yes, the alien vomits hard objects back out, but what if it digested the film? He also didn't consider whether his actions might put other people in danger (and it did - the alien got kind of riled up at that point!). So I think the "Icarus" comparison works, even if the filmmaker was intending to make a grand sacrifice for art...because, like Icarus, he didn't fully think things through.
@@emilymoran9152 except you clearly see the IMAX canister fall onto the ground still in its case… my head canon says he got that shot and it survived
I don’t think that the cinematographer failed to consider if the “Impossible Shot” would survive the fall. I don’t think that he planned on it surviving at all. He knew that he was essentially committing suicide, and endangering the rest of the crew to boot. He knew that the crew would never get that film. But in his eyes, that was a sacrifice he was willing, and perhaps happy even, to take. I mean, if he and the film survived, would he really be capturing the “Impossible Shot”? In my opinion, survival would insinuate that capturing the shot was quite… well… Possible. Perhaps I’m reading too much into it, but I think, for him, just capturing the shot was the real feat, not actually profiting off of it. He didn’t want the glory. In his final moments, he alone knew that he did it- that he got the shot and achieved his life’s goal- and that was enough.
@@misslydiawashere well he did say the “They don’t deserve the impossible.” So yes the getting the shot was for himself. A last hurrah. But I thought I saw the film canister his the ground possibly without exposing the film.
Going to see it again now and will watch more closely when the IMAX case from the camera hits the ground
@@catherinebobatherine2152 I think it’s also reminiscent of what Oj and Emerald’s great grandfather went through. The man who shot it took all the credit. Antler, just like that man, was filming OJ riding the horse and Gene Jacket but he took it a step further and not only wanted the credit for himself but was willing to die with it.
As you stated, I love the irony of Peele breaking out from the mold that he was given for his genre. However, Logan utterly fails to be anything more than a mediocre CZcamsr; the true opposite of a renaissance man.
And a pretty good wrestler
And the Co-founder of a Drink and an very good Podcast. But meh Logan Paul bad🤡
Le Logan Paul le bad narrative really dug in here huh
I also have that story about Travis and the girl fried into my brain because I was the same age when that incident happened. Gordy was legitimately the scariest thing I’ve seen in a movie ever period because the real life story is so heavily scarred into my brain as a pre-existing fear.
I went to see it a second time just to rewatch that scene where OJ opens his car door slightly, peeks up.. closes it and says nope. Give the man an Oscar for that alone haha
People can say what they want about nope but I haven’t seen a refreshingly original story like nope presented on a very long time.
What's a long time? Everything everywhere all at once was good and original. Men was original too.
Yes I'm supporting original movies every time
Completely agree. Most studios have been playing it safe and doing remakes or movies based on things that already have a fanbase. I'm always happy to see a movie that can stand on its own
same it was pretty good
truly! i was glued to the screen, i had no idea what was gunna happen next
I loved Daniel’s performance in this movie. It’s so underrated. That quiet, stoic man that observes and is smart but that many people write off or don’t see his worth because he is not an extrovert. Introverts are always supposed to change themselves to be outgoing, entertaining to get ahead or become better as if being in the spotlight makes you a better human being. Yet in his work he over shadowed his sister and was easily willing to let her have her moment to shine.
My point is the still waters run deep is a much different, harder portrayal to reach the audience than an emotive one and he did it so well. He’s a great actor.
Something I realized way late was that the "chapter titles" were the names of the animal that dies in that chapter.
I loved Nope a lot, I didn't think it was "scary" in the way of the alien, but those monkey scenes were really fucking scary had me on the edge of my seat
I feel you! A lot of the alien scenes felt tense, but the only alien scene that scared me to the edge of my seat is the one where the ranch is getting eaten, n that’s just cause I’m squeamish. However, whenever that monkey was on screen I had to strain myself to not look away.
look up travis the chimp. that shit really happened, it’s HORRIFYING
true true
those scenes were fucking horrifying- my theatre was completely quiet and my friends were all squirming and looking away from the screen. It feels so real and in your face in such a scary way
I watched it on my birthday at 10pm, had to put my mylar balloons in the kitchen 😂
It’s wild to me how often the Paul brothers proudly and boldly declare their stupidity at least once a month
It’s truly difficult to discern how much of what they say is manufacturing outrage/contrarianism for clicks and how much is just them being authentically, painfully stupid.
Jordan peele movies actually make you use your brain and I like that
The dynamic between OJ and Emerald reminded me of me and my brother to a tee. The fact Logan called OJ the most mundane and vanilla character makes me think he's never had a meaningful relationship with a reserved or introverted person in his life. Just because someone doesn't talk 24/7 (or post 24/7) it doesn't mean they don't have a rich inner life.
This was the first r rated movie I ever watched (I'm 20 but raised by super strict parents lmao) and it was SO GOOD. I'm probably still really wimpy about anything scary because I haven't been exposed to it very much but I think this was a really good choice for my first r rated movie :D
OJ being a “bland” character can be summed up to how he was raised; on a remote farm raising horses. Plus it serves as a contrast to Emerald, which explains why she wants all the attention and he is comfortable not speaking at all sometimes
Id argue he isn't bland at all. He isn't a social guy, but he is incredibly smart and quick, big hearted. I don't find thay bland at all. He was the only one who wanted to bait jean jacket.
To be honest, I figured OJ was supposed to be autism-coded, with avoiding eye contact, the excited hand-clapping thing with his sister I assumed was him stimming?
Okay, so I had to respond to some of these.
1. This was explained, they allegedly fell from a plane. That explanation is SUPPOSED to sound fishy. It lets the audience know that something strange is happening.
2. Its out of place on purpose. Google “surrealist symbolism“
3. It was a suicide. Dude wanted to go out with a bang, getting that “impossible shot” in the process. “This is the mountain you don’t come down from”. Remember that line? They even foreshadowed it.
4. Again, google “surrealist symbolism”. “Meta commentary” is also applicable here
5. This is the most exciting moment of Jupes life. Makes sense he’d invite old friends. It also makes thematic sense, as the gordy scene & the show scene mirror eachother, and are shown back to back for contrast.
6. Dude is a washed up actor exploiting the spectacle of his past for profit. Literally the films 2 biggest themes.
7. There were also cards for Gordy & Jean Jacket. Each card precludes a death. They also hint that JJ should be viewed more like an animal than a UFO by connecting it directly with the horses & chimp.
8. google “cameo”
9. Lmao
10. Do we assume bats are cognitively advanced because they use echolocation? Do we think a dog is intelligent because it can smell exceptionally well? No. This criticism makes no sense
Yes, it's not particularly obscure or difficult to understand. All points answered in ways supported by the text.
Sometimes questions about art have correct answers. You certainly nailed down most of them.
I think the first one, was actually the Alien expelling the non-organic stuff, like when he was hovering the house
@@Danonel well, yeah. that’s what they meant by saying it’s supposed to sound fishy that it was supposedly a prop plane that the items fell out of. bc it was actually the alien and not a prop plane. that’s why they showed it.
@@pillowvibes ohh ok, thank you!
Adding to the 10th point, the alien literally looks like a cloth on the wind, but it's supossed to look at a baloon and think "no way, that's not how animals look"?
What’s interesting about his critique against Daniel is that I would consider Nope one of his best performances side from get out considering how much he was able to convert while being such an introverted and socially awkward character. It was beautiful to watch imo
I did an analysis regarding the setting of “NOPE” and it just adds much more depth to the movie than there already is, especially regarding the theme of Jean Jacket being animalistic.
It gets extensive, but I just really wanted to say that you’re brilliant. Like actually. People got very riled up about his comments, and while it’s not necessarily bad. Your approach to make counter arguments is much more effective to promoting good answers and observations. I practice it often in literature and I’m just glad I stumbled upon your channel.
Please continue to preach media literacy as it should be, thank you.
Logan’s implication that aspects of Nope were just arbitrarily added and “didn’t make sense” in context just illustrates how far they flew right over his head.
I’m not even one to say shit like “you just didn’t get it”, but if you didn’t understand how Jupe’s story connected to the broader story, you didn’t understand the movie. Every shot of this film was there for a reason.
He also doesn’t seem to understand surrealism / symbolism. The shoe being a perfect example. A film can have elements that purposely stand out as strange, unexplained, out of place, etc. in order to draw attention to them, and provide (meta)commentary on the films ideas in the process.
Its an artistic choice. The shoe is SUPPOSED to be enigmatic & confusing. I feel like shit like CinemaSins has broken peoples brains to a degree when it comes to anything that doesn’t make immediate, practical, “plot sense”. Like people can’t fathom that something like that is an intentional decision w/ a purpose, rather than as oversight
I still feel like i only half understand the point of Jupe and his story tbh. Could you please clarify as best you can why he exists in this because it felt like the film would’ve still been complete without him
@@robbiesmart2819 Yeah sure 🙂
So first of all, Jupe is the reason that the alien is even drawn to the ranch in the first place. He’s been feeding it OJ’s horses in an attempt to “train” it and exploit it for entertainment & profit. Thereby drawing it to the horse ranch for food.
Also, consider the similarities between what Jupe is doing & what OJ and his family do. Both try to train & exploit wild animals to put on a show & make money. OJ with his Hollywood horses, and Jupe with the chimp (and later the alien). The difference is, OJ knows that a wild animal can never truly be tamed, and you can only work around its nature. Jupe, however, believes that he’s special, because of what happened to him as a child.
When he survived the monkey attack when he was little, it gave him some false idea that he has a special talent for taming wild animals. The fact that Gordy didn’t hurt him and even tried to fist bump him has given him a false sense of power over them, which is what eventually leads him to try and tame the alien. So, really, without the Gordy’s home incident, the events of the entire movie never would have happened.
Speaking of the Gordy’s home incident, notice how it’s meant to function as a mirror to the star lasso experience scene (the abduction). Both were attempts to harness nature for spectacle that went horribly wrong. Both involved Jupe (and his co-star), both led to several deaths. But Jupe doomed everyone at the star lasso event, because he learned the wrong lesson. Instead of realizing that nature is untamable, he thought that he had some sort of special ability, and it ended up getting everyone killed. I believe the shoe is meant to represent this belief in a way, making Jupe believe this was some sort of miracle (which also connects back to the whole “bad miracle” thing).
But yeah, that’s the broad strokes of it. I wrote it out a little jumbled, so sorry about that. Keep in mind that this is also up to interpretation, and my analysis isn’t necessarily the be-all-end-all. But I think all of the parallels between the Gordy scene, the abduction scene, and the horse ranch clearly show that Jupe’s story is essential to understanding the themes of the movie (spectacle, exploitation, the unpredictability of nature, how the past follows us)
There are also a few things I haven’t totally pieced together yet, like the importance of a popping balloon being what set off Gordy’s rampage, and a balloon of Jupe being what kills the alien at the end.
But yeah anyway, hope that helped, and if you have any questions lmk!
@@robbiesmart2819 Shortest reason since I don't feel like typing more: his wishful thinking and ignorance about animals contrasts with the knowledge and experience of the Haywoods about them. Since the movie was also about cycles of exploitation and tragedy then exploiting the tragedy, the former child star repeating the mistakes of the adults around him the day of the chimp massacre, leading to an even worse outcome, is very fitting.
@@HauntedHarmonics thank you for taking the time - tbh things make more sense now that i realise he was the guy that drew in the alien, i think that went over my head a little at the cinema (somehow, lol). I suppose in hindsight I found his story jarring mostly because it felt like it was over so quickly, and ig the fact he died earlier than expected threw me off enough to not “get it”. In any case the I like the film more now so thank you!
@@robbiesmart2819 no problem 🙂 and nah, totally understandable. there were a lot of things I missed the first time around too. the film definitely doesn’t hold your hand, especially in the beginning, and you have to piece a lot of plot points together retroactively.
I had to watch it a second time to fully catch everything. I personally love movies like that though, anything that requires repeat viewings just sucks me in that much more
"The horses matter", and it was even said in the movie! When they're planning with Antlers and Angel, there's an exchange in which Angel points out how the siblings are "horse people", much like someone would point out a dog or cat lover, and when Antlers asks then how are they gonna even bait the thing, OJ steps right up, no hesitation, and the only reason he puts Lucky in any kind of perceived danger is when he tries to help the TMZ dude, and when he decides to sacrifice himself for his sister. The horses matter a lot!
listen i've been having so many thoughts about nope and having you talk through a bunch of the stuff i've been thinking about (even in like a fully random template) was SO HELPFUL and i feel like i enjoy the movie more now so thank you :)
Came here from your Glass Onion video and really excited to check out the rest of your channel!
I wish people would take the time to learn the difference in genres of film in horror such as Thriller or Slasher without being like "it wasnt scary"
I totally agree. Also, I wish people wouldn't review a movie with not a complete understanding of the artistic medium, like movies and storytelling. I think with thriller movies, what's scary is the concepts and relating to the characters going through something mysterious, terrifying, unknown, etc.
This is what make me so mad. Not every horror is meant to have jump scared and gore. Nope was made to make you think deeply, just like the rest of his films!
That, and sometimes things don't need to be pigeonholed into specific things either. It doesn't need to be "Scary" in a specific way. It can be eerie. It can be uneasy. It can make you feel ill. It can make you feel loads of things. IDK why people need to be jump scared to think it's a horror.
Ok but like also, NOPE was fucking scary as hell! The scenes with Gordy on set and the scene with the guests at Jupiter’s Claim inside Jeanjacket are all fucking terrifying
@@cinarynroll Nope had jump scares though, really cheap ones. And I never felt any eerie atmosphere either. Also people keep saying the Gordy scene and digesting scene are terrifying I don't understand. The Gordy scene did nothing for me and I found the digesting funny, looked like they were in a car wash
Im pretty sure the shoe standing up was a bad miracle, like OJ was saying when talking about his fathers death. In any other situation, a shoe standing up in an impossible way and seeing an alien fly around and drop shit from the sky would be a miracle, but because both instances were attached to such traumatic events for both OJ and Jupe, these are "bad miracles". They both hold on to these items, with Jupe putting the shoe in a shrine and OJ hanging the coin up on the wall. These "bad miracles" represent the trauma they can't get rid of and try to understand.
Ok this is one of the best takes I’ve seen on the shoe! Or at least one I resonate with most. Thank you lol
Are these all bot accounts making these comments? Or are these comments mainly from those of generation z that haven’t seen films with betters far superior symbolism? The short standing up was one of the most cringe worthy attempts I’ve seen from a director.
i love listening to you speak, you're so well spoken. like the way that you say your words as so articulated and nice sounding.
Hi this is the first video of yours I’m watching and I think you actually responded to Logan’s analysis very gently and helpfully in terms of addressing “issues/plotholes” that many people, not just Paul, had.
Also it was delightful to hear that Us is still your favorite Peele after such a thorough and appreciative analysis of Nope because samsies :)
Nope was maybe my favorite Jordan Peele movie, I love this particular take on sci-fi. Making the alien follow the same basic rules as earth animals while still being weird and terrifying was brilliant, and the Wild West theming was extremely fun. I loved the dichotomy between Emerald and OJ and I think it made so much sense that they wouldn’t get along but would still love each other and work together well in an emergency situation. The monkey shit terrified me more than even the ufo and while I thought it would turn out to be connected to the alien in some more tangible way I’m actually very glad it turned out to just be another example of a violent force of nature.
I also really don’t mind when artist’s change their style over time, especially if I just think there’s something really special about them and their work, and especially if I know they take pride in what they do. Some of my favorite musicians have changed directions drastically over the years, and i still love their work because they love their work. I’ll probably watch every movie Jordan Peele makes and like it.
@@hartvideos6656 I'm off topic but your statement reminds me of Linkin Park. Back to the topic, Jordan Peele is simply an innovative, provocative and a genius filmmaker.
@@MollyHJohns linkin park?? 😅 I have no idea what this means lol but yeah agreed
OH YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MY SECOND COMMENT RIGHT? I forgot about that one 😓
It's his worst in my opinion & I wasn't a big fan of Get Out....
Personally I think the shoe was PERFECT for tension and that scene. From the first balloon popping and setting Gordy off, it’s sort of hardwired into your head that a loud sound set Gordy off. I think Jupe noticed that point too.
He was under the table terrified and he made eye contact with Gordy. I was terrified that the ‘other shoe would drop’ and set Gordy off onto another rampage.
Perfect way to build tension while also subverting expectations. I love how we never saw the shoe drop and Jupe memorialized it in its upright position.
What’s also interesting is the fact that right before Gordy is killed, another balloon pops. Jupe was a second away from being mauled as well.
i didnt even know there was balloon pops when i watched the movie i was so focused on the shoe and why tf was it standing up so weirdly
"What's with the creepy cowboy theme park??" It's based on Kid Sheriff, the first movie Jupe starred in as a child, right before the got cast in Gordy's Home. Jupe's hiding from his trauma in his early, happier success. He even literally buries the remains of Gordy's Home in a hidden section of the cowboy park. Also, the well with the camera pointing up at the sky recreates the movie poster for Kid Sheriff. The camera is later used by Em against the alien, and staring up at a hole in the sky is what ultimately kills Jupe.
As you mentioned, the film is about the nature of spectacle and exploitation. Along with these themes, it naturally covers hubris, and a big chunk of the film's statement on hubris has to do with people assuming they can assign meaning to everything. Jupe thought there was a reason he didn't get disfigured or killed by Gordy when it probably came down to dumb luck. He thought that Jean Jacket leaving him alone after he fed it was all down to some kind of mutual understanding, when it was really something more animalistic and not at all special. My take was that the shoe, and other weird occurrences are meant to pull a similar trick on the audience, having the viewer wonder, "SURELY this means something" when really it's just chaos that humans are trying to assign meaning to (remember when OJ says, "what do you call a bad miracle?"). Likewise for the alien itself; we get tricked into thinking Jean Jacket might be some kind of advanced organism when it's likely just s big, dumb animal, which might not even be extra-terrestrial to begin with, it could just be a very rare specimen native to earth.