Paul Ferguson Sentencing Hearing
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- čas přidán 25. 02. 2024
- Paul Ferguson, the 20-year-old who testified against his mother at her murder trial in the death of a teenage boy will stand before a judge Monday morning to learn his sentence.
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The only emotion shown is when the Judge said “30 to 100 years.”
I think the Judge got it so right.
Right?!! That was a big Pikachu face if I ever saw one!
Well, he also showed emotion near the beginning when he turned around and smirked at the spectators in the gallery when the judge said that he wasn't going to consider the letters received from unrelated people who had watched the trial.
I totally agree with you, because I think the judge got it right , very proud of the judge , would love to be there and hug his neck and tell him I think he’s wonderful,
He also showed emotion when his lawyer said “her 20 yr old son that’s a high school graduate dish washer”. He felt that shit. It looks like he was holding back tears.
No he was holding back a smile when they judge said about him being a dishwasher. Watch it again
“One step away from becoming the psychopath your mother is.” Exactly.
He really hit the nail on the head.
I think that step has long been passed, myself.
Can't stand the way he visibly squirms. I think he's a big actor, or has zero social awareness.
@@user-zx4ds8mt9b I agree !!!
Wow. The way Paul reacted when the judge said 30 years - possibly the one organic, truly felt emotion in this whole horrific case. The sentencing report was very damning and, for me, enlightening. There were details and admissions there that gave a new, terrifying perspective. Paul Ferguson is a monster.
agree....ZERO response when re-hearing his brothers horrific death...but when he hears 30-100 years?? oh yea, head pops up...shock on his face....he is a socio with zero empathy....DANGEROUS if he ever gets out....pray he does not
Just like the monster that birthed him! Timothy never stood a chance living with these evil narcissistic sociopaths to say the least!!🤬
From the fake crying when he gave his speech, to the appeared boredom and disappointment as the judge went on and on about the evidence that didn't make it to Shanda's trial, his reaction was INTENSE for everything else that has come out of that guy (I almost said kid sheesh wow)
Organic... Haha😂
@@ajqueen31😮
The defense attorney saying, “he didn’t know this would kill him” makes me sick. That means they would torture him forever if they could. It’s sad to say, Timothy’s death is the only thing that saved him from the torture he would continue to endure.
i thought the exact same thing. i always think that in these horrible child abuse cases like emani, gabriel, and takoda. that only two good things came out of those cases - we got to know their names, and they don't have to suffer anymore.
don't hold it against the defense attorney, though. his job is to advocate for his client as best as he can, and he did his best with the crumbs he got lol.
The father should be held responsible as well for failure to protect and giving his son to someone who was not supposed to have him.
Yes definitely should be charged
Yes 👍🏻
Should have been charged but this judge thinks he's worse than the mother what a joke. He let her not attend court spew in a bucketbe a drama queen.
he seemed to feel sorry for the mother.
Blames it all on the brother very odd. Seems to not understand mental illness.
That step mum and dad got away scott free.
Not sure this judge get what this whole family did
The father has passed away.
@@candiceplace8279 The step-father passed away. Their bio-dad is still alive. There's an awkward jailhouse phone call between him and Paul that you can find online.
This is such a great judge. This is what true justice looks like.
Sometimes I feel like the only people who really cared about Timothy & fought for him were this awesome prosecutor & this judge. So grateful to people like them.
RIP Timothy
I love this judge. I remember at the mother’s sentencing the judge actually apologised to the jury for the photos that they had to see of Timothy. He said it’s something that will never be erased from his memory. Hope they both rot in hell.
Exactly
We need more judges like this!!!
Paul is autistic very obvious. He is a victim and all this as well.
Jury isn't at sentencing. What he said was that he didn't allow pictures of Timothy at the time of his death to be submitted as evidence. That Timothy's mother had taken everything from Timothy, and he wasn't going to let her take this one last dignity from him. That he didn't want him to be remembered as the husk of a person he was at his death
@@LuteItBe well then it was at the verdict. I clearly remember the judge apologising to the jury for some pics. I think it was those pics Paul took of him just before his death. The ones Shanda pretend vomit to.
His head sure snapped up when he heard the sentence!
The judge was very thorough and logical. I think he came to the right conclusion.
Agreed!!
Until I read a lot of the court documents and heard Paul's jail phone calls, I felt really sorry for him. Now it is clear to me that he isn't sorry for what he did to Timothy for the right reasons.
He even said he hoped his testimony lead to a lighter sentence so that it would have been worth it. Meaning, it STILL isn't about Timothy to him! Even knowing how important his testimony was, it only had worth if he got something out of it. Putting away Shanda and taking accountability for Timothy wasn't enough. It wasn't even on his radar.
I feel for Paul as a victim. But he must be held accountable as a perpetrator. And he is not remorseful.
Yes, the jail calls changed my opinion for sure. He is manipulative and in my opinion not remorseful in any way.
@@some4gretchenweinerswhere do i get the phonecalls?
@@sopi4Zav girl has been posting them.
Paul isn't your average person, he has disabilities and his right and wrong ways of thinking are different from you and I.
Marcia Young
It doesn’t matter what disabilities one has, one knows right from wrong.
Paul knows right from wrong and doesn’t care. Even if his empathy was low because of his severe autism, he could still have intellectual understanding of pain, and what it does to people, and choose to not take part in it.
Autism is not an excuse. He is evil, and he would be evil, whether he was autistic or not.
Let him rot
Wow the judge really saw right thru him
Humans aren't always naive, or stupid eh
@@user-zx4ds8mt9b Indeed especially when they go into law to help people
Thank you judge. It was clear to me he didn't give a f*** about Timothy or feel any guilt or empathy at all during the police interview.
The only time he felt something was when he heard "30 years"
Judge: “You’re one step from becoming a psychopath like your mother”.
That was a sharp, deep, but precise cut! The judge hit that nail right on its head.
Absolutely
I thought he was getting 10 to 15 years…Did you see his eyes when the judge said 30 haha
I thought that as well… He actually thought he was gonna get let out because of mental health problems, he was recorded telling an elderly relative so. 😂 I’m so happy to see neither were the case.
Nah he thought less than that 😂 he was asking his brother to help find him a job and that this would be 'over soon' 😂
He seriously was saying in his jail calls that he thought he possibly wouldn’t even see the inside of a prison and would get sentenced to like Time served or something😅😅😅. I’m so happy the judge saw through all of his BS act &; saw Paul for the sociopathic psycho &; active participant in Timothy’s suffering, torture and murder, that he truly is.
.💙💙💙RIP TIMOTHY💙💙💙.
You won, buddy. You won.
The whole family failed Timothy! The stepmother wanted Tim out of her house and sent him to his de@+h! The father was no better! Shanda testified that the stepmom told her that tim was anways acting out, but tim's teachers said he 100% arrived to school extremely dirty, always hungry, and always helpful and cried because he didn't want to go home. Teachers wrote statements of making him shower almost every day at school! They would send food home in his backpack 🎒 and that the father and stepmom never participated in the provided counseling. So, they unitely failed tim. I cried about him. He had no one helping him figure out nothing, and the teachers spoke well about timmy.
Whole family failed him. I agree with everything you said. Poor Timothy deserved so much better. 😢 I wish I could have had him. I pray God has him in his arms with love because the life Timothy had here on earth was absolutely hell. Poor Timothy. Sorry little buddy you deserved so much better sweetie. I hope everyone involved gets terrible karma!
You really believe anything that thing said in her testimony 🙄 yeah we should just take her word on what the stepmother said...dmb
You're right, failure begins in the wider family, I think.
I've watched soooo many trials go on at this point both locally and nationally and I think that this case is the first that A. Made me sick to my stomach listening and when reading the court docs and B. Made me actually cry because I just.... I cannot FATHOM how this poor boy felt in the last days of his life.
Seems like the state fail him. Isn't that what cps for.
The volume is terrible on this
Agreed they need to get it together!!
Hang in there it gets better lol!
Justice served for Timothy!! I've watched this entire case and the judge is 100% right, he is as evil and heartless as his mother, he could've notified the authorities but he chose to continue torturing his defenseless brother....good riddance!!!!!
You should educate yourself on abuse. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
@@mariajessielocklear8246his dad and step mom kicked him out at 18 years old BECAUSE HE WAS ABUSING HIS YOUNG SIBLINGS! Get a clue!
Yes he’s evil , and could have told someone and got help , and could have saved his brother’s life , guilty as his evil mother ,
Maybe they should be investigating his father as well ???
Yes!
What a fabulous Judge.
That head snapped up so quickly! Elle Woods would be proud!
Judge was spot on and very thorough
"BEND AND SNAP"😂😂😂
Paul thought he was plead ignorance, and claim he didn't realised what he was doing was harming Timothy. What? Seriously??! That to me was enough to know he was lying.
Paul was playing on the idea that people would look at his autism and assume it makes him unable to tell right from wrong, or when he was hurting someone.
Very sneaky of him
There needs to be more wise judges like this. He spoke with conviction and didn’t fall for Paul’s lies and excuses. I appreciate how he laid out his thought process and reasoning behind sentencing. He got justice for Timothy.
LMAO 🤣 🤣 YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY HEINOUS OLD BAT
Thank you, judge. Thank YOU for seeing Paul for the exact person he is. I hope he isn't released in 30 years. He deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison.
Sisters testimony that he as a bully, swung this whole case.
She was right. He was a bully.
And I didn't know he'd been cruel to animals in the past as well. That's a big red flag!
No, it surely came out anyway the type of joyous, gleeful bully he was.
Thank God for this Judge! He's amazing ❤
Paul took no responsibility for his actions. He worked in collaboration with her. He never admitted to that. He knew what he was doing. He just blamed it all on her, whereas he enjoyed and got some pleasure out of how he treated Timothy. Glad the judge saw through him.
I agree totally agree with you there
Exactly. Maybe not suprisingly, never once has he alluded to regret for his poor little bro.
Honestly, it's an indictment on us all, that we can as a species create such soulless creatures. That's the way I feel anyway.
Thank God this Judge was examining everything throughout!!! We didn't even know about!!!!
Paul was shocked at his sentence, he really thought he was going to get off lightly. The step mothers saying he was a bully to Timothy while not in the custody of his mother was really the nail in the coffin.
Many abused kids bully others and act out in various ways. It won't take you long to look that up and learn about it. Abused kids can be bullies, violent, controlling... and still JUST be abused kids, not psychopaths. But they need HELP, not prison time....
I@@sanz7820 I don't need to look up anything, I listened to what the judge said, it won't take YOU too long to listen to his opinion if you care to. Well adjusted loved people are less likely to to come before the court, don't get smart with me.
So basically you're saying anyone that suffered abuse should be excused from their crimes? Interesting. I'd be afraid to walk out my door if we used that logic
Such a hard case-his mother is a monster & destroyed this family & the potential of all her children.
Paul was worse. Long before Timothy came to Shanda, he was found to have SA'd Timothy. Pauls mother wasn't even in the picture.
He could have chosen to disobey his abusive mother. He could have been Timothy's hero. Choices have consequences. His should reflect those decisions. Prison will teach him how a lack of comfort feels.
If you think that abused kids can "just choose to disobey", you don't understand what it's like to grow up with abuse. Educate yourself.
I agree with you.
@@sanz7820I appreciate your empathy for Paul and I have studied people like him and experienced what it's like to be around people who are abusive so I do understand more than you may realize. And while my heart does break for the kid that he could have been, I know other people who have been abused and who don't grow up to abuse others and he at some point needed to wake up to the fact that he needed to protect his brother. That was his choice.
In lieu of incarceration in a prison, I would also have no problem with accepting him being put in a mental health institution, for Life.
And while I still say my first statement stands: choices have consequences, I do have a heart for people with mental health conditions and who live in and under oppressive conditions.
However, ultimately our choices have consequences.
@@sanz7820 I just wanted to point out I never said he should have "just" chosen to do anything. I never suggested that choices are always simple or easy. Often the opposite is true. But Paul had the capacity to understand right from wrong and the fact that he didn't follow through on that knowledge then that says that he needs to be out of society for sure, if nothing else. And like I said hospitalization for life would be fine imo too. But he's displayed psychopathic tendencies at this point and he needs to be away from society for a long long time, if not forever. And in my opinion it should be forever because once the psychopath shows their negative side they can't be fixed.
What's really tragic, in my opinion, is that he didn't understand the consequences that he was putting himself in line for. It's not like one of these rich kids you hear about who going to create these horrific crimes; he never really had a decent life. That's too true.
@@suzannenichols6900 I disagree. I don't think you can say if his behaviour is a result of trauma or because of psychopathy before he has been through years of therapy and been in a healthy environment. You can easily look up that abused children may be bullies, may hurt other kids or animals, may like the feeling of control over others (because they're usually the ones being controlled/feeling vulnerable) and that does NOT mean that they are psychopaths. Children that seem completely out of reach and cruel can still get help and grow up to be functional and healthy adults. But they need help and therapy to break free of the patterns they have learnt. Paul won't have that option in prison.
It is true that not all children who are abused grow up to abuse others, but some do and that's not because they're "just born bad". There are a lot of factors at play and I don't think it's fair for us to judge when we have no way of knowing all the details. And that report made I can tell you right now is completely BS because you can't make a call on whether or not he has autism or trauma or what have you BEFORE he has gone through therapy to figure out himself away from the abusive environment. That's a fact. Getting a diagnosis takes a long time - I myself went through a lengthy process to get my autism diagnosis because they weren't sure if my struggles were due to abuse or autism. Turns out it can be both, of course. Bu there's NO WAY any doctor with any real knowledge of psychology can do a report and from that say if Paul does or does not have autism. That can only be evaluated with time and any good doc should know that. Not my opinion - facts.
THANK GOD!!!!! I thought he was gonna get away with it with the way everyone was talking.
Me too. Thank God for this judge.
I am so glad that the judge did his homework and saw through Paul’s lies and manipulation and sentenced him to a fair time in prison.
Dam judge I wasn’t expecting that speech. Justice for Timothy
If the father obeyed the court order and not give Timothy over to this monster, we wouldn’t be in this horrible situation.
All he had to do was make a phone call he didn't.😢
He had every chance to save Timothy’s life. So sad.
Something Pauls lawyers said. Academically Shanda was qualified to be a lawyer. Magna cum laude, great bar exam result, etc. Why did she work as a lowly law clerk in another county and not as a proper lawyer?
Not everyone who goes to law school wants to be a lawyer. Some people just go for the education and not necessarily to use it. My older brother has a JD from Stanford and he’s a civil engineer. He’s legally allowed to practice law in the both California and Michigan but chooses not to.
@@brett8460I’m going to assume he’s making good money as a Civil Engineer, a great possibility it’s more than he’d make as a lawyer, depending on what company/project he’s working. She was a clerk with a low salary, who mentioned having to look for quarters to purchase chicken nuggets for her youngest son and consistently never had enough money to fully support her household. She wasn’t in the position to get the degree and pass the bar… just to do it. There is a reason she was being held back from becoming a lawyer, maybe something she didn’t know would effect her opportunities when she began classes. We were wondering if maybe it was something involving her treatment of Timothy in the past that was keeping her from advancing and that was why she focused her abuse on him. Whatever it was, there is a reason she wasn’t practicing, or at the very least on the road to practicing, and it wasn’t by her choice.
i agree
@@ohioreseller6959 Elle avait une dette de 50 k à rembourser avant l'assermentation.
If you watch the other parts of Shandas trial I believe it said that she had just passed the bar right before being arrested
IMO he has a smile at the end of his little speech. Dupers delight. He looks at the judge like, "so there."
I originally thought 20 years min but hearing the judges speech wow he served justice🎉 phenomenal Judge who honoured Timothy’s Life 💗
So glad the sound got fixed. I had to turn my speakers up all the way to hear. Now better.
The bio father sent Tim to live in a hostile environment ie threw him into the lion’s den with Paul and Shanda knowing that there was abuse going on
Yes he should be charged too
The handcuffs are uncomfortable aren't they Paul? 😂
He helped putting Timothy in cuffs, but now Paul himself is in cuffs and chains to learn his fate. Paul may find these belly chains annoying, but they are still a pretty much humane restraint for a convicted felon. He should rather get used to it.
He complains in his jail calls about spicy food 😂😂
Thank you Judge!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Finally a judge who got it right. The look on this POS’s face when the judge said 30-100 was priceless. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
His head sure snapped up when given his sentence, good for the judge
1:25:15 😂
And look...he was breathing heavily....fear!!
I will rot in prison, he thought.
This case was PURE manipulation. Those events would never have occurred to Paul's brother Timothy if the Mum had not been in control.
I agree 💯
Welp the judge and Paul's own family completely disagree with you, and Paul will spend atleast the next 30 years in prison
Paul at anytime could have said NO to his mother and not torture his brother, however he did not choose that path to protect a human being, not even his own brother! If he is incapable of knowing right from wrong now, he is still a danger to society, and should not be allowed to be a part of society!
Paul was capable of choosing right over wrong
Paul had no trouble hurting his brother, and certainly no conscience about it.
It’s very ablest to assume that nothing Paul did was of his own desire to do it.
Paul is autistic, NOT STUPID!
You know that Paul was aggressive and mean way before they even lived with Shanda, Paul would antagonize and torment Timothy every chance he got. Also, Paul SA’d Timothy when they were younger. Sooo.. you were saying..??
YES)!!!! Well done judge. The look on his face when the judge said 30 years!😅
I as an autistic person felt that he was malingering.
He is nothing but a cold hard sociopath! Not his fault. But what he did to Timothy is his fault.he knew right from wrong.he can now repent at leisure.
RIP Timothy. You won my dear Boy❤
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He was only sorry to get a lighter sentence. He thought he was gonna walk free. Look how angry he gets when the judge starts to speak about him. If he really was sorry he would have agreed with him.
He did not want to make amends and go to prison for what he did. He was only saying that so we were sympathetic to him as he appeared remorseful.
He's a clever, manipulative man.
Sad, because he only became that way because of his upbringing.
No, I bet you anything it was hereditary
He only started living with his mom when he was 18
His head shot straight up as soon as the judge handed down that sentence.
Thank you Judge
So many people expressed so much pity for Paul and begged for him to get an easy judgment. I AGREE that he was manipulated by his evil mom and took instructions from her. However, i watched his testimony, i listened to the reading of his texts to her, and i watched his interrogation, i saw social media live footage of him talkingnto his friends... I, too, felt/feel bad for his upbringing and manipulated childhood. BUT I'm Finally glad the psych evals revealed what i felt was "off" about his side of the situation... i mean, he willingly texted his mom he wished Timothy was dead, that he should die already, that he hated him. He can be manipulated to do harm towards his brother, but he expressed pretty evil thoughts in privacy that were of his own. I'm not surprised the psych evals show he poses an ongoing threat to society if he were to be released.
I think the people who don’t think he’s dangerous think that because he’s autistic, he can’t hurt anybody
They are so wrong.
Thank God for facts over feelings
@@spiralrose if I heard correctly (which was hard because the audio sucked!!) The psych evals showed he didn't have autism? But it was widely assumed?
@@ajqueen31you did hear correctly, they said he’s NOT autistic
@@Andreaod73 thanks, that's what I thought but the audio was so bad
@@ajqueen31 I listened and went back a few times and I had my ear right to my phone 😂
Poor Paul is what everyone thought. He wasn't three years old when he was abusing his brother. He knew right from wrong, and this confirms it! He could not fool this judge!
Dang, this Judge is sharp!
God! That was frustrating to watch! The court camera operator and sound engineer need sentencing too for crimes against filming!!
I only hope Paul's fellow inmates suddenly develop a taste for hot sauce and ask family members to bring it in for them. Give the psycho a taste of what poor Timothy was subjected to.
The garage doors are no longer closed Timothy. They're wide open and the world now knows what evil bastards your mother and brother are. You can RIP now little guy. Sending you ❤ wherever you are from the UK.
Really the recording was awful!
I’m new to this case and just catching up today, but what struck me was the way paul came across in his testimony- he appeared to struggle with comprehension and came off as slow, and then in sentencing he suddenly reads this incredibly well articulated statement… hmm. Fishy to me. The poor dumb thing was just an act
They did that because from what others are saying in the comments they said that he was autistic somewhere out of nowhere during the trial to I guess get a lesser sentence so if that happened that's probably why he's acting the way he is now. He's just playing the part
I believe the judge was absolutely right and Paul had every opportunity there was to save his brother and to either take him out of that house or go talk to the police and tell them what his mom was doing, but he chose not to and he chose to continue starving and bullying and killing his own brother, he definitely deserves the time he got. Thank you Judge for serving justice for Timothy.
Well I still didn't see empathy from him..
They said he had antisocial personality disorder. You're not going to see empathy from that kind of person. He is diagnostically a psychopath.
Yes, it would have been considered extreme animal abuse. My sincere hope is that this young man gets any emotional help available in prison. I do wish the court would have mandated that any future money making opportunities (books, pd interviews, etc) would be allocated to children of abuse, in honor of his brother.
The convicted aren’t allowed to profit off their crimes.
Dont they make moneybin prison? I assumed that what she was speaking of. Its not much if i remember its like 30 cents an hour but i believe they do make a small paycheck. @spiralrose
He looked shocked lol did he really think he was going to be released or serve just a few years? Lol
Was Paul ever asked during questioning why he never went for help or told anyone about what was going on in the home?
By the looks of that filthy junkyard house there was nothing but chaos in there.
She was so focused on her evil deeds she totally ignored the fact that her house was a Reflection of her and her Mind, Paul just got caught TF up in mammy shanda's plots and schemes.
Yes. He didn't have an answer. When asked why he didn't bring food from work, he said because he only got one meal for himself.
This is not a person who has the capability of compassion, empathy or even decency, he watched and participated in is his own brother’s torture and death, these are the acts of a psychopath not a person manipulated by his mother, he is a danger to society!
@@taharamuhammad3771he was a willing participant
It's the same judge - I love this judge!
Paul thought he would get away with it
YUP, he damn sure did. He thought he really wouldn’t even see the inside of a prison and even said the only reason to testify was to get a good deal. I’m sooo happy the judge saw through his meek bs act.
Great good Judge! Wish there was more judges like him!
The fact that he attended an alternative school demonstrates he has issue. But he knew what he was doing,was WRONG😮
Exactly.
If he cared about right and wrong, or had a conscience, he would’ve stood up for his brother somehow, and gotten the proper authorities involved
If it didn’t work, the first time, he would’ve kept trying, no matter what.
If he didn’t Like that, his brother was suffering, he would’ve tried to stop it.
He didn’t care.
Thank God for facts over feelings
Finally Justice for sweet Timothy 💙
I don’t think you can teach someone to have human characteristics like empathy, sympathy or compassion. You either have them or you don’t.
He'll never make it prison. He needs A long term psychiatric hospital.
Yeah he's definitely gonna get taken advantage of
I personally wouldn’t support it, but I personally don’t care either.
He could’ve asked for help for his brother, he left the house often enough for his job. He chose not to because it was easier on himself.
Timothy didn't make it at all
That would’ve been perfect for him before he killed his little brother. Now consequences. He isn’t crazy, he’s just a psychopath. Fully able to hold a job and act in a family environment just doesn’t really care about anyone. Even in jail he manipulates just like his mother and engages with family or randoms from the internet to get money or things looked up online for him. He is where he belongs imo
Don't be smiling yet Paul!
Thank you judge for seeing thru 2 monsters! RIP sweet Timothy 😞
He has no defense, he helped torture his brother to death. He makes me sick
@13 on your side please fix your volume 😢 can't hear then boom its loud 🤦♀️
35:05
Your comment is absolutely 100% spot on! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. I was worried that Paul’s little act that’s been fooling so many in these comment sections, who base their opinions on that without seeing the multitude of the evidence, would also fool those drs. I’m so so sooo happy his act didn’t fool those doctors &; that they, like the judge, saw through him for what he truly is. Truly, Justice for Timothy.
@@apatheticaesthetic. thank you, This case of child torture, abuse, starvation is in the top 5 of pure evil. It hit me very hard.
I found it interesting that it didn’t get a lot attention more from the lawtube community. Was it because evil Shanda was a lawyer, IDK.
i hate the way this courtroom is set up. the pole in the middle and it is so dark. but the judge is great. and paul got what he deserves. i hope everyone can find some peace and comfort.
Thank you judge! Justice for Timothy. 💔
Where’s all that cockiness and superiority that can be heard from him in those phone conversations????? Judge cut him down a peg or two here, I believe.
I listened to his calls to his brother and grandmother, most of it being, how cold it was in jail and hated the food. Oh well look like he has no choice now either way the food or starve
What phone calls did you hear? I'm listening to them right now and I hear no cockiness/superiority whatsoever....
If Paul hates the food in prison, imagine how Timothy hated the hot sauce sandwiches that were his only option
The lack of self-awareness is jarring. Of course, he wouldn’t see himself as he is.
@@spiralroseJust listened to the last phone call and Paul says he doesn't want anything "spicy". No spicy food for him but fed his helpless brother bread with the hottest of hot sauce.
@@sanz7820 you do understand that two people might perceive things differently, right? 🤔
Unreal!!! WTH, aren't you guys going after Timothys FATHER now!? If this sentence is FAIR, lock that bastich up too for discarding Timothy like trash!!!
I'm NOT saying morally what the father did was correct. However, nobody is obligated to keep their kid. Or take care of them. If you give them up and decide you don't want them LEGALLY you are not obligated to do anything further. He's a bad person but not a criminal.
@@magillagorilla6153 He gave Timothy to Shanda who was Court ORDERED to not have custody of him. Eric Ferguson was well aware of that! THAT was illegal. He could have and should have called CPS! Charge him too!
@iffyangel3380 hm if that's the case. Like litterly everyone failed him. The school knew she had custody (signed off on keeping him out) and of course, no doubt timothy would've had his mailing list changed most likely. Everyone saw that he was there but never bothered to do 5 seconds of research. System failed
@@magillagorilla6153what school? He was never enrolled in school. She hid him from everyone! She lied about everything on the stand except her education.
1:25:12 Yes, anyone hearing 100 years would make anyone snap their head up, you think?
30-100. I think the 30 is what made him snap up thinking wow I have a chance out of here
Paul had me fooled until I listened to his jail phone calls and did more research about how he was described by his family members before he even went to live with his disgusting “mother”. I think the judge saw right through him, put into eloquent words exactly what he needed to hear, and then served him with the justice Timothy deserved.
Justice has been served. He exactly knew what he was doing and continued to do it . He could have stopped it but he didn’t but he’s a monster just like he’s mom . Good job Judge . Now he can think in jail all he wants. Karma feels good. God sees and never forgets. RIP to Timothy . 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I watched the sentencing and after hearing all the judge has to say, all the reports from psychiatrists who evaluated him, at first I felt sorry for him after watching his testimony at trial but now I feel he is a danger to the public and the sentence was right.
Sadly most people here online were taken in like you. This is how manipulative these people are. They come across as very believable.
Same here. I felt sorry for him, but the judge really put everything into perspective!
Yep same here! Didn't know all of that information. He looks a lot like his Mother.
So how many years does he serve? 30 to 100? What determines the amount of years? This judge was very smart and thorough. RIP sweet Timothy...🙏🏻✝️🕯️
I mean the kid worked at Applebees and ate there, he couldn't bring some food home to his brother? He was so scared of his mom finding out, bs, so glad he got a fair sentence.
I agree with the Judge except I don't think Paul is worse than his Mother. She's definitely the worst of the worst.
Equal
Excellent Judge
I don’t think that’s fair. If I was the judge, I would give him 10 years in a asylum.
Yes, he should’ve got help from his neighbors or his work to do something to save both of them from the abuse.
But she’s a smooth talker and manipulative.
You need to understand people who are victim of abuse don’t speak out because they think they’re at fault, nobody would trust them, and they would feel worthless if they don't do what their told.
But then Shanda should go free. She was also abused. You cannot be a victim and then later become the perpetrator. Paul got what he deserved. It's not fair what he did to Timothy
@@beanj580 the difference there is that Paul was a kid/teenager still living int he abuse he grew up with while this happened. Shanda was an adult who was not actively being abused or manipulated. She made her own choices, he didn't. Big difference.
Paul didn’t live his entire life with his mother. He moved in with her when he was 18.
He was a bully to Timothy even before he moved in with his mom
He was not brought up, surrounded by abuse
He could very well have saved his brother, but chose not to for his own well-being
Don’t let your feelings get in the way of the facts
They have plenty of children who have saved their siblings from abuse, while being terribly abused themselves.
Why is everybody falling all over themselves making excuses For this man?
Environment does play a huge factor in the way someone behaves - he might have witnessed odd and extreme punishments throughout his life from both parents - normalizing some of it-we don’t know for sure what he might be able to accomplish in the right environment but the judge would be taking a chance and if he is truly beyond help someone more than likely would become his next victim.
Plenty of survivors of abuse have spoken out.
You don’t speak for all survivors, and certainly not for the majority
30-100 years! wow!!! I was not expecting that!!
I know he needs help. He needs a mental institution not jail. This child was abused and manipulated and used by his mother too!
Watch his police interview…he is NOT innocent. He was playing us at Shanda’s trial. He’s as manipulative, cold-hearted and violent as his miserable mom.
If he was mentally ill with a condition that rendered him unable to understand what he was doing it’d be different. But there is no real treatment for psychopathy. It is forever. That’s why it’s not considered a defense in our country, regardless of how you “became”.
I agree
He isn't a child
@@diva63 he has not been diagnosed as a psychopath. And any "doctor" worth their while would never diagnose or even make a report on someone who just got out of a life of abuse. You need that persons life to normalise before you can see what behaviour is inherent to the person and what was a result of the abuse. Paul never got that chance.
Ohhh… WAHHHH.. Paul wants a better tomorrow..? Ya know, one that Timothy will never get? &; he wants to face his punishment but yet wants leniency &; compassion?! Yah know.. the compassion he never once showed for Timothy?
He’s full of the same BS act he’s been portraying since the beginning.. &; I’m so happy the judge saw right through his BS.
After hearing the Recently. released jail calls paul has made , it is clear he tried to manipulate the court he said he was hoping to get good results on the mental tests hoping he would get little time ect he clearly is smart and im glad the court saw thru the act he did during trial because after hearing all those calls i thought wow the judge has no idea what this kid is really doing thank god he didn’t fool the drs and get away with playing victim,looking at the old dcf records even the school back then had said Paul was sexually abusing Timothy when very young and also a girl at school and he wasn’t living with his mother at the time he’s sick and dangerous and should be in jail as long as possible!!! Poor timothy may he now rest in peace after years and what seems a whole life of total neglect ,abuse & suffering how anyone could hurt an innocent child like this all the adults that failed this child after seeing old dcf /court info all the adults that were responsible for timothy didn’t treat him right and allowed this child to suffer for years even before going to live with these monsters ,it is beyond evil 👿 what this child went through.
I just listened to the exact same calls and I don't hear any attempt at manipulation. OF COURSE someone would hope for "good results" that would help with the sentence. That doesn't mean that he was faking or manipulating. Ya'll are reading into it hat you want to see at this point...
Hey AG I’m new to ur channel all the way from UK ❤️
I’m glad the judge saw through his attempt to deflect blame. I was shocked at all the CZcams comments under his testimony that were calling Paul a victim too. That is crazy, Paul is as, if not more, responsible than Shanda. Shanda couldn’t have done this herself, Paul was bigger and was the one who enforced this torture. He deserves life.
Right, and sure, he's a victim in some respect. But using the autism spectrum excuse, is insulting to every person who also is on the spectrum, as if they aren't capable of, nor possess the mental capacity, to distinguish right from wrong. He is an adult. Every choice has consequences, good, bad, or indifferent. Deflecting was not a good look. Just because he was a victim of his mother's treatment, doesn't mean he's immune from responsibility. In regards to him torturing his own brother, he is not a victim. He shares equal responsibility. The victim card just goes to show that the sentence he recieved was absolutely the appropriate sentence. Hopefully he takes it in stride and learns. If he betters himself, takes responsibility, avoids deflecting, he could get out a little early. The judge made the right call.
Thank you judge !! 💙💙💙👑👑👑⭐️⭐️⭐️
To the people actually feeling bad for Paul - Listen carefully to the psychological report on this guy. He's been putting on an act this whole time. He's just as manipulative and sadistic as his mother, if not more so. Don't fall for the demeanor he's displaying here. He enjoyed torturing Timothy and he's a danger to society.
Pauls face when his attorney said "hes just a HS Grad and a dishwasher" sick. He's sick. Judge got it right.
After hearing the mental evaluation and family statements. I think the judge did the right thing.
That hot sauce they forced him to eat.. omg beyond fire hot. The 2 hotest peppers known...
Many times Paul could of saved his brother. But his own step family said he was a bully growing up.
For Timothy
He is evil
Why haven't you charged the father for abandonment!? Justice will not be served until he isbheld accountable for dumping him off a woman who was NOT allowed to have contact with him without supervision.
Why is everyone miles away from a mic?? frustrated in the UK!
It is a sad truth that most of our judicial system has little to no knowledge about the psychology of troubled parents and the harm some of them do by manipulating other children as in this case. Family dynamics, parent child relationships are a complicated thing. In addition The Milgram experiment of years ago was sad still is a shocking testimony to obedience to authority- even to harm others; this was a famous study in psychology that examined people's willingness to obey authority. Participants in the study were instructed to administer electric shocks to a learner, even when that obedience caused harm to the learner. No one received actual shocks. The judiciary needs to learn about these complicated relationships and why/how this could happen. It happens every day.
So are you gonna use this excuse for everyone that commits a heinous act towards another?
So then Shanda should also be released right?
If the two commenting above me can't see the difference between a kid/teenager growing up in and still being in active abuse and an adult who is not actively being abused or manipulated by anyone then I don't think anything can help them understand basic logic.
I agree. This was a disgrace and whatever "doctor" made that report should be ashamed of him/herself.
Let’s go buy what you’re saying for a minute
Assuming Paul was manipulated by his mother, and I don’t believe that’s the case…
But if it’s so easy to manipulate him into hurting somebody, then he is still a danger to society, and always will be
So either he could be used against somebody like a weapon or he would choose to hurt somebody for his own convenience like he did Timothy
Either way, we are all better off for him being in prison
And lol at you knowing more than a doctor does
Amazing judge!!!
You have a surprise coming Paul and you ain't gonna like it!!😮