FULL HEARING | Paul Ferguson sentencing
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- čas přidán 25. 02. 2024
- "I think you are just as bad," Judge Matthew Kacel said to Paul Ferguson when comparing him to his mother Shanda Vander Ark. Ferguson received prison for child abuse against his brother Timothy who died from systematic torture.
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Shame on the FATHER for allowing Timothy to be in her custody. He should be charged too.
Agree
Agree!!@@sheriClayborne
It sounds like his older brother has been abusive for some time and yet he lets Timothy go live with this woman and her abusive son? Come on!
I agree with you. I don't understand why he's allowed a free pass. He should be held accountable. Her knew how Shanda was, didn't she lose custody to the father? Timothy was failed by the people around him
I’ve thought the same thing. I don’t think dear old dad even showed up for the trial.
This judge should get all child abuse cases in that county
I could hardly wish that on anyone, let alone this poor judge. I am thankful to know they still exist, but my God! Most of us would likely have sunk so far as to emotionally drown. That he is so incredibly professional, considerate AND conscientious while maintaining his sense of justice and humanity is astounding. I agree with you and could kick myself for thinking it at the same time. Dig?
That prosecutor is incredible as well, in my opinion. I know I couldn't have done it - ever.
Heavy burden to bear but judge knows he’s doling out the only justice that will be seen this side of heaven @@RachaelHall-12.35
@@hiddenhand6973 I thought everything he said was poignant, measured and incredibly grounded. Personally, I have no clue how, being that close to those two monsters, anyone can control themselves that well. Not me!
He was nice and fair. Hopefully he puts more of his trails on public platforms. This judge reminds me of a guy who works at a diner. A simple man who calls it like it is and doesn’t make it fancy. And this case was dramatic and sad at points . Very good judge we need more of him, Dorow, and other judges !
@@RachaelHall-12.35insanely grounded. I felt like the judge was speaking what we are all saying in the comments. He’s one of us for real.
My brother was 6 years older than me...he died when he was 25. My favorite memory of him was when we were shoveling snow (I was 8yrs) I told him my hands were freezing so he took my wet gloves off and rubbed my hands to get them warm and then put his warm gloves on me. We walked home dragging our shovels but his were the only cold hands. He was a great brother 🙂
Sorry for your loss. God bless 😊
i’m sorry for your loss.
my brother once literally gave me the shirt off his back.
our first and purest best friends.
🤍🤍🕊️
take your time, but i know one day you’ll be reunited.
What a beautiful memory of your brother.
May i ask 🤚 Are you believers in christ 🙏 beautiful words spoken😇
I'm so sorry. I'm glad that you have such good memories.🥰
The father of Timothy 1000% should be held accountable for his part in putting Timothy in his so called mom's care. That was not allowed from from a order of the courts.
The Judge saw right through that Auschwitz prison guard.
Why do jewisj people make everything about themselves?
Great comp.
That's interesting you mention "Auschwitz prison guard" cuz I think that Shanda is Irma Grese reincarnated! (I don't believe in reincarnation btw) Look her up. She was called "The Hyena of Auschwitz" for her sadistic enjoyment of whipping prisoners. She thought it was a fun game to select the most beautiful female inmates to be murdered in the gas chambers. Shanda Vander Ark is the doppelganger of Irma Grese. Go look her up and tell me it ain't so!
Judge Kacel is a hero.
Perfect comparison!
That's a hideous comparison, but unfortunately an apt one. There is a video of the prosecutor during closing arguments at the mother's trial and the angle is such that when he reminds the jury of the photo Paul took weeks before Timothy's death, you can actually see the picture and dear god... The judge was absolutely right. He did in fact look like a Holocaust victim. I almost wish I had looked away for that second because it's just burned into my brain now. As a judge, that picture is all I would have needed to hand them both the maximum sentence.
Boy, he was hanging his head all the time the judge was making his final statements, but as soon has he said "30 years....", Paul's head FLEW up real quick!! Shock, and disbelief on his face. What did he expect? Paul Ferguson got what he deserved, and justice for Timothy has been served.
🙌🏽
You should hear the phone calls he made whilst in jail' He was talking about being out soon, trying to manipulate his stepmother into putting money on his books, thankfully she refused lol also he whined about the food, the uncomfortable bed and the fact he was too hot or cold.....the irony! This guy is just as self entitled as his mother, and a sadist on top of what the judge said about him being a psychopath. Good riddance to that pathetic creature.
30! So he will get out at 40!
More like 50. @gingerlee726
I noticed that too I thought he was going to give himself whiplash
The fact that he's shocked at the amount of time says it all. He still doesn't get how bad his actions were.
Oh he gets how bad they were, he just thinks this is unfair because his needs are all that matters.
@@neilmcguire5153yes I agree 💯 with you. Paul thought he'd done a good job of manipulation on the authorities and helped them out by giving all the information on his mother's acts and that would be enough to give him a small sentence as he threw her under the bus.
Paul is extremely delusional and full of self importance. He is evil and a monster.
That look of shock on his face when the judge said 30 to 100 years will never leave my mind.
That's why he is so dangerous.
@@roxanamcglinchey6613 I had a so called friend in high school very similar in appearance and demeanor, total narcissist. Probably not to Paul’s extreme, but more of an emotional abuser and bully, belittled me often. Great at manipulating, great at playing the victim, often threatened suicide for attention. Knew how to get me to react and make me look crazy so he could gaslight me. Pathetic individual.
I’m no professional, but I do have a degree in psychology, and from my own experience the narcissism is written all over his facial expressions and nonverbal behavior. I can see right through it. There are certain giveaways that make me go “oh yep, I know that look”
@@neilmcguire5153 I'm very sorry you experienced that bullying from your school days. Bullies are cowards. They leave their mark on those they bully for life though.
I'm so happy for you that your a psychologist and it must help you read people well.
This Paul is utter trash and his audacity to whinge is truly sickening , it's unbelievable how he complains about minimal things really. At least he gets hot meals in jail. Far more than poor Timothy received. Poor Timothy survived on hot sauce and bread for months.
I'm sorry Paul reminds you of past hurts. It appears to me the worst behaved people expect the red carpet rolled out for them.
Sorry I've rambled on here. I just can't get this piece of evil crap out of my mind. His mother too.
This judge is amazing, his compassion for Timothy really shined through. Justice was served.
And let that be a warning to the others doing the same
The Judge is amazing, but unfortunately neither one of those murderers will get what they truly deserve. They will be sent to prison and get a bed to sleep in, medical care, 3 meals a day and both of them have fools sending them money for commissary. They should be thrown in a cell with a tarp and be fed HOT sauce and bread until the day they both go to hell where they belong and that still would not come close to the amount of pain and suffering that poor Timothy went through.
It makes me sick that he has an insane woman who is sending him money and wants to marry him, we can only hope that the prisoners will give him and his sorry mother the treatment they deserve.
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Judge is Vindictive not Rehabilitative. BIOLOGICAL Father was Starving tim before he gave him to Shonda Teachers Reported it Paul was Abused by Parents expecting him to take care of Tim. HE had No life and was not Trained to take care of Autistic Tim😢
the Irony! Paul, in one of his calls from jail, was wishing he would be diagnosed with Autism to get fewer sentences, but he was saying that Timothy was faking Autism. Now we know he is sociopath and worse
I love it
Takes after Mommy.
It's just horrifying how Paul was at fault with his demonic devil mother to carry out this horrific act on Timothy.
Look who raised him.......
He seems to me like he's trying to make himself look like he's mentally incompetent, the way he's looking around, as if he doesn't know what's going on
He tortured his brother with no empathy, extended ice baths, viciously hot sauce on his bread, in his texts he either showed no feeling or he was blaming Timothy for getting on his nerves! The remorse came after he was caught. Good call judge, this is a cold, sociopathic young man.
Thank you!!! I'm so tired of these delusional comments saying he's a victim.
@@StarrBucksthen don't read them!
@@StarrBucksboth can be true at the same time. He was a victim as well but he wasn’t innocent in his actions.
Exactly @@paigeupchurch7306
He could have gotten help for Timothy, and even himself, he could have said something to someone about what his "mother " was doing and what she wanted him to do to his brother, something could have been done, and Timothy would still be alive 💔😢
30 years a light sentence
And yet the father sent Timothy to the lions den.
Where is his accountability?
He should be held accountable. He didn't care about Timothy. Honesty, if it wasn't for him, Timothy would of never been there
Standing and clapping for the Judge!!! Justice for Timothy!!
This judge was amazing. I understood everything he explained for both sentencing. He really cared about the victim. He was very thorough.
@@bethstallings8016really? It was loud and clear on my device! Put the CC on if you can't hear it, at least you can read it
I don’t know why he was so shocked at his sentence he will have to pay .
@@ellybean5868At the beginning, the audio was very poor, especially from the judge.
@@bethstallings8016the deal he received was that he would not be charged with murder like Shanda. He would only be charged with first degree felony child abuse. They even said at that hearing that this deal would not effect his sentencing.
Her ex husband should have been liable as well. He too had failed. No sympathy for you either.
Her ex-husband had a stroke and was paralyzed how was he liable
I'm pretty sure they're referring to Timothy's father who gave Timothy back to Shanda even though he know she was abusive and she wasn't even legally allowed to have him. Not the new man Shanda married who had a stroke.@@cindydalton9608
she means the father. It was her current husband who had the stroke.@@cindydalton9608
@@cindydalton9608her current husband had the stroke, not her ex husband.
I agree!!
Paul's eyes don't look like he is normal
He's a Phsycopath
I wish Judge Kacel could preside over every child abuse case in this country!!!! Children don't deserve to ever be treated like this
Tag team of sadists....DONE.
Best summary of this whole case!
Charge Timothy's father with abandonment; he left his child vulnerable to a psychopath.
He should be held accountable.
Didn’t FaceTime him or nothing
The judge really did his homework in this case & I applaud that. Looking at everything he possibly could to determine an appropriate sentence.
This was one of the most satisfying things I've ever watched. It is refreshing to see a judge actually "judge" and not go along with every other person in the court.
Paul you had a choice to save yourself and your brother. You failed. I have no sympathy for you or your mother.
|Do you acknowledge that he tortured and starved his brother?@@symptomoftheuniverse4149
@@symptomoftheuniverse4149 he was not Dx. With developmental issues. He was Dx as a psychopath however and without treatment he is capable of doing the same thing. The Dx was that he had no remorse for what he had done. I think what the judge said to him will make him think about what he's done and make him realize that his brother is gone by HIS hands. It wasn't all Shandas fault like he was happy to believe. Prayers that he realizes what he's done and Begs forgiveness. Only then will he find true peace!
@@symptomoftheuniverse4149 So, you feel like that entitled him to literally starve, and torture his brother?! Listen to what the Judge said in the video right before he passed sentence, and by the way, there's millions of people who come from abusive households, they don't torture their siblings, in fact, most of them turn out to be pretty fucking protective of them
@@symptomoftheuniverse4149
1) Being a product of your environment doesn't exclude you from the law or moral judgement. Just as the judge stated, if they start taking that kind of consideration as a recommendation for leniency we would be in trouble, because most people that end up in court are in fact a product of their environment. It still doesn't negate the damage they caused. Also, there are plenty of people who came out of similar environment who hasn't gone on to torture or murder people.
2) Unless we were watching two seperate videos, the judge clearly stated (as per 2 seperate psychological evaluations) Paul does not have any developmental delays or impairments. Both stated that he has full capacity of understanding the nature of his actions. It has also been stated that he is a sociopath. Sociopaths are extremely good at manipulation. They are often methodical cand calculative. Which the court identified as to be the case in reference to his actions regarding the questions surrounding his mental capacity. The judge stated its his belief that he tried to manipulate the court into believing that there was some underlying issues regarding his mental capacity... Which I wholeheartedly believe. He's most definitely a threat to society.
@@symptomoftheuniverse4149😊 7:35 😊😊
Thank you so much Judge! The world needs more judges like the Honorable Kacel. He didn't hold back the facts. The look on Paul's face was shock. Clearly, no empathy or remorse.
Agreed!
YES!! the judge is the best on so many levels. he really deserves recognition for that.
We do need more judges like himself to let people know enough is enough and you have to be held responsible for your action. Paul thought he was going home or very soon so the look on his face was definitely shock but nothing compared to Timothy’s face. Each and every time he was withheld food, physically abused, ice baths ( can you even imagine) and the last couple of days before he died and was finally free. This was horrendous and Paul enjoyed every minute of the power he had and the pain he inflicted on his very own brother. The judge is correct bc we can not have people like Paul walking free to commit these horrid crimes on others which I believe 1,000% he would be do.
Yea look at the size of him compared to his brother he abused
Too bad he's not the judge for Ruby Frankie and Jodi Hildebrand
That poor little kid. Born into the world just to endure seemingly endless amounts of suffering. No birthdays and Christmas mornings, egg hunts, hugs and everything else that comes with a loving family. As a father of a young boy, and also an older brother, this just guts me.
I agree. If you try to put yourself in his place - locked in a "small room", shackled with cameras on you - every single contact with mother and brother ending in torture. Sheer hell.
Me too sir…’me too
Judge Kacel you were the right Judge for these 2 sociopaths, you called them out for who they truly are. I applaud you sir, you were truly a voice for Timothy as well the DA and the police to get Justice for Timothy
Even Paul's attorney said in a more disguised way that he thinks Paul deserves a lengthy sentence! I think everyone was horrified when they received the files on Paul's life in Oklahoma and realized he tortured animals and was accused of sexual misconduct with one of his siblings. Like he prosecutor said, it would have been nice to have known these things before offering Paul a plea deal.
Thank God for this amazing Judge!!
Justice was served. He can now rest in peace
The father, step mother, grand parents all be charged! They ALL failed!
Agreed!!!!
The father for sure.
True, but that’s not how the justice system works, but they will all live with guilt.
@@Annie_2914they have NO guilt! Didn't even show up for trial!
@@peregrine7303 most kids are like their "mama."
47:05 His face when the judge said he was one step away from becoming a psychopath like his mother. 😬
Bravo to the judge, this murderer must spend the rest of his useless life in prison.
He’s as much of a monster as his mother. Throw away the key.
Exactly! He had opportunity to help him
@@ThouShallNotKill
Correction, Paul had many opportunities to help Timothy.
As many as there are minutes in 6 months.
@@abelis644 did you hear he is engaged
@@ThouShallNotKillyuck. How any woman could find him attractive and want to be with a child abuser and murderers is beyond me. It's like silly women writing love letters to Chris Watts. So sick
9:31 9:31
Unreal!!! Wth aren't you going after the FATHER!? He ILLEGALLY threw Timothy away like garbage and ya'll do NOTHING!?
Sure. Get him too! Sounds like only the step dad protected Timothy.
@@MH-ds8cb Justice for Timothy will NOT be done until he's charged with at LEAST abandonment!!!
the father should be charged as well because he sent timothy to her knowing she was not supposed to have unsupervised visits with timothy and the state took him from her so the father knew what she was all about and he sent him anyways and they hid it from state....LOCK HIS PATHEDIC AZZ UP WITH HER!!
Thier father live in other state what hes expect from them? do your homework
@@marlons4122 do your homework. He sent Timothy to Shanda who was Court ORDERED to not have custody of Timothy. Only supervised visitation. That's abandonment. What he did was ILLEGAL.
He could’ve called the police when his mother was at work or called 911. He knew better
This judge is on point and, Paulie didn't get s*** over on the judge!! Awesome call Judge 👍👍👍👍👍
I know right.
Incredible judge!!!
I don't think Paul saw this coming. I believe he thought he helped the prosecutor and would get leniency with the courts. Paul admitted he had anger issues his whole life! Too bad he didn't get help sooner. He deserves the sentence he got, this is a good judge!
God bless everyone associated with this horrible act.
He got leniency should have been life in my opinion
In his jail phone calls to his brother, the few I've heard anyway, he seemed to be thinking "this will all be straightened out and I'll be free". I think he thought because he helped the prosecutor, because he'd autistic as well and because he was 'just' the brother and therefore not as responsible as Shanda, he'd get to go straight home.
He got off murder, now No more tears for Timmy, not in heaven
I have never seen such a carefully considered verdict. This Judge put all emotion aside and based his decision on the facts. He definitely did his due diligence in reading and re-reading all of their correspondence and I believe read correctly the motives and intentions of Paul taking his past actions and current behaviour into account.
Did you see Paul’s head snap up when the Judge said 30-100 years - he was incredulous and his response of not even looking the judge’s way verity’s the Judges’judgement of Paul as correct. What Paul did to his brother is beyond the pale and is completely outside the bounds of both humanity and morality.
Bless this Judge for having the courage to stare that inhumanity in the face and sentence him beyond the guidelines. Justice for Timothy would include accountability for his father as well who allowed Timothy to return to his mother’s care when he knew full well she was unfit.
@@bobbi412exactly, he will probably be out in 19 years if he stays the worm he is and “ is good”.
I do also believe he can be rehab in prison. He can change for the better.
Paul is as guilty as his mother, if not more so, because he was alone with his brother and he could have averted the situation by giving his brother food without his mother's knowledge. He even went as far as to dangle a pizza in front of his brother, how callous is that!!!! He should get life without parole!!! That's murder in the first degree, subtle...or indirect as it appears!!!
Agreed!!!
Heartless
R.I.P. Timothy sweet angel.
He absolutely should have gotten life without parole.
@@hiddenhand6973 yes!!
I'm glad the judge saw through him, so many people defending him. He's just as much a monster as his mother.
Starting at 4:04, what is Paul smiling and smirking so joyfully at????
Looks like he thought those letters were going to help him, but when the judge said he would not consider the letters, it wiped the smirk off his face.
Jupers delight
Did anyone see his smirking, grinning and beaming when the judge said he had received many letters from viewers and then the realisation and frowning as the judge said the letters wouldn't make a difference?? We are so used to seeing people with autism behaving weirdly, unable to conceal emotions and generally being awkward but with a heart of gold that we've gaslit ourselves into not trusting our instincts when we encounter genuinely creepy people. It's quite remarkable- his inability to conceal his emotions. And then his duper's delight as he closed his mouth after finishing his statement. I agree with everything the judge said. Torturing Timothy made him feel important, he had zero empathy and is a sociopath.
Well said! I couldn’t tell if he was smirking, but that’s what I thought he was doing too! Disgusting. I mean, he didn’t even ACT sad, at anytime.
YES! I saw it right away. Starts at 4:04. Judge wipe that smirk right off his face!
Yes i noticed that as well, he turned around like he was smiling at someone
I noticed that too I was looking through the comments to see if anyone else did.. obviously, he thinks killing his brother is a joke, and that he was going to get away with it.. but he got a wake up call…
Thank you for saying. I admit skipping parts, and I missed that look. He grinned, and smirked! Well, he wasn't smirking when his head popped up at the words "30 to 100 years".
i did have a fair bit of empathy for him at first, but as i learned more about this case , the more i realized one was as bad as the other, noticed that him and his mother are often begging for money for commissaire because they are not fans of jail food, i wish the only thing they could order was hot sauce, rest easy timothy at least you got justice
That’s how manipulative people work. First they appeal to your empathy and sympathy. Just a poor little victim. Then the facts come out and it couldn’t be more clear that he is sadistic.
Same. I flipped and flopped and flipped again with the one. The more I learnt about it the more I learnt that he too is nothing short of a monster and is where he needs to be.
Exact same here
@@It-is-me...Melsie Same! And I agree😊
I was torn on this aswell. Once the judge started talking about all he had researched about Paul, I agree with the sentence.
He hasn’t learnt his lesson because if you listen to him on his jail calls he is bullying his cell mate who is also autistic, Paul is not autistic he is sadistic & deserves what the judge gave him
Boy his head snapped up when he heard that 30-100 years.
His jail calls are all online. He has zero remorse and denies blame.
I've been listening to those, he really thought he was getting out.
I tried to search for them and the only channel I found was Zav and I don’t want to watch her. Who else has post them?
Is Paul a bit special ? He seems to be smiling all the time , like
He dose not understand what is going on ? He deserves life in prison
@@lauracaton1711AG Tactical. He's a young man, real mellow, and is doing tons of jailhouse calls, and anything to do with this horrible case..
@@suefields4254 I much prefer AG Tactical over Zav Girl.
Thank u Judge Kacel for getting justice for Timothy ❤❤
The Judge really is amazing, I love the way he called out Paul on his bullshit act, I was hoping that he would bring out Timothy's picture to show Paul
The father literally turned over Timothy to a person the court had already deemed unfit as a parent. The father should be charged as well!
Well this judge sought out all the answers of questions I had. What a very thorough job he did summing up. Excellent job judge!! What a very empathetic, fair, well thought out deliverance of justice!!
The other siblings have said that Paul was restless tormentor to Timothy forever and they even wanted him diagnosed as sociopathic
Bingo and this happened before going to live with mommy dearest.
Paul sexually abused Timothy when he was 9. Paul was removed from the home.
I see it. I believe it.
Paul was removed from the family home at 9. Due to s/a Timothy .
@@deniseeugene1852no that was a sister at school there is another youtube story about. It is not Paul to Timothy.
25:08 Paul speaks
4:11 Paul smiles proudly about letters
47:02 1 step away fr becoming psychopath
50:21 30-100yr neck whip
(1:46 Paul stares at you)
Doin the lords work. Lol
Him acting like he didn't understand anything. Well he sure understood numbers right real fast. Did someone check to see if he sustained whiplash?
He really, really thought he was going to get a slap on the wrist and be hailed a hero for testifying against his mother. That look of shock was so, so satisfying.
It was still right that he testified against his mother and named their actions as wrong.
@@emilyashley4820 Oh, I agree. Absolutely. I think he expected a light sentence because he testified and because he didn't get a murder charge. He joked on the phone with friends that he hoped he was diagnosed as autistic because it would guarantee him easy time in a psych ward for a few months. So evil.
@@emilyashley4820 What a great reply! I was taken in by Paul Ferguson, too - on the stand, he seemed so damaged and limited. Turns out, not so much. At least Shanda didn't put on an act when she testified. She was repugnant in her matter of fact statements but Paul put on a massive act that quite a few of us believed. The judge saw thru it, thankfully.
Paul also asked everyone he knew and all the penpals he amassed for money, and did so repeatedly. Apparently, the food in county is terrible and he needed funds to go on his books so he could buy his meals. That stuns me.
I have watched the behaviour panel once or twice. With your urging, I will give it another look. I am always fascinated by what makes criminals tick.
Did you follow the Charlie Adelson trial and case?
@@Tassie85 I have heard a bit of that case. There is another channel I like called, Reporting live from my sofa who looked at it. The CZcamsr is quite funny but respectful. He also speaks about Timothy's case.
Like mother, like son. He turned state witness against his mother, to save himself from a long sentence. He looked which way would benefit him and where his bread is buttered. I have no sympathy for this pshycoppath.
If he has said 'I feel so guilty I can't even sleep at night now that I'm removed from the situation understand my accountability and want you to give whatever sentence you think brings justice to Timothy' I would feel a little better but he took no accountability. His lawyer did him dirty letting that be his letter to the judge lol.
@@gingerlee726 He's sneaky and a liar. Everything he 'admitted' that happened was self-serving.
Right
@@It-is-me...Melsie Completely self serving 😐
Or maybe you meant where his bread is doused with hot sauce? Oh, nevermind. That's right, Paul stated in the jail calls that his "wish list" includes more food than most eat as he has a high metabolism and nothing spicy.
The level of disassociation to his crime and lack of self-awareness and introspection is alarming. Judge got this right💯
Cruelty to animals? Wow...
Big red flag there! 😮
He could have called the police at any time on her but he went right along with her, he is as guilty as his mother.
I live with an autistic nephew who was removed from an abusive situation yars ago. He drives me crazy often but it has never crossed my mind to hurt him. This was his little brother. Unbelievable.
Paul also sexually abused Timothy. His jailhouse calls complaining about the low quality of food and asking every person he knows for money to purchase better food at the commissry is breathtaking knowing he literally starved his brother to death. Have you ever eaten spicy food on an empty stomach and the heartburn it causes? Imagine being half your body weight from starvation and being force fed the most powerful hot sauce in the world? It's inconceivable the level of cruelty that arises to. Justice served.
I have seen that allegation several times but haven't found anything about sexual assault online. Can you tell me where you found it?
Where did you hear about that? I mean I wouldn’t be surprised.
Zav girl channel
The judge could have said "sadism". It's a textbook example of two sadistic personalities torturing an innocent child just because they like to do it. I believe the judge is right, the murder was an accident because they both lost their favorite victim to torture more. This would have never stopped on his own. 😮
@@nml5802 yeah I’d like to know more about HIS abuse… he is a product of his environment. He is looking much healthier and I pray that he is able to heal himself and do better. Such a sad story 🙏💗
Thank you, Judge!
I LOVE WATCHING HIS FACE WEN THE SENTENCE IS READ ❤
Judge you have been wonderful during this difficult trial. Some justice for Timothy.
Paul wasn’t as innocent as he wanted to appear during his testimony. He was indeed just as much responsible for Timothy’s abuse, starvation, and death as his mother, if not more. Bravo to this judge.
Did anyone else love the look up at the judge when he rendered the sentence?! He really thought he fooled everyone and was going to walk away a victim and be free. He’s just as sick as his mom.
He wasn’t expecting that 30
@@ThouShallNotKill He thought the absolute worse case scenario would be 22 years tops
Thank you Judge for standing up for our kid's I'm a mother of a lost child from someone else's hands as well
My favorite line from the Judge Kecel before he sentenced him, “ I think he one step away from becoming a psychopath like his mother”
Rest in Peace Timothy both of your abuser is serving time in prison.
I agree. The Judge called Paul a psychopath. That was chilling.
I like when he said I dont believe you are sorry
I had a messed up childhood and I never did anything like this so spare me
Exactly!!
Same. People like him are always going to be monsters regardless of their upbringing.
Same here! Consider yourself spared! And kudos to you!
Oh, Amen! I feel ya. I hear ya!
Same. I was beaten by my step-dad but would never _consider_ laying my hands on another individual!
We need more judges like this. Not afraid to punish accordingly.👍🇨🇦
He looks better fed than when he was first arrested.
There's a dude who will NOT be doing well in prison lol....
I'm actually unsure. If he's getting a lot of fan mail therefore commissary all the other men in there also for violent crimes are going to become besties with him. The only person who can do anything to him would be someone who already has life and doesn't mind spending tears in the hole and never talking to family or ordering commissary again. PREA made hurting another inmate for the crime they committed a 'hate crime' usually people like him end up just being left alone and they hang out with each other.
@@gingerlee726 all it will take is one guard to mysteriously not see something! That little developmental act will not save him infact its makes him more of a target! Having commissary may buy him sometime...but not indefinitely!
He'll thrive. Sociopaths always do. Until caught of course.
I can hope!!
@@gingerlee726They're not going to be besties. They're going to take it
Shandra's husband was gone from the home for six months before Timothy died. Their abuse was so horrible that they murdered their son and brother by starvation and physical torture. The charge was child abuse but the reality was murder. I think the sentence is appropriate.
The icebath started before, because the gas punishments.. They were married for years.. So he had to know her past with her children.. maybe it escaleted faster, but I think the start was since she had her children.
@@marleenjansen4692they bought the alarms & locks & all that after he left
Wrong. Her ex husband was their dad and they divorced in 2019. The dad never lived in Michigan. The STEP DAD had been gone from the home for 6 months due to him having a stroke! Get your facts straight.
@@Tami_L96 her husband, not her EX..
I listened to the jail phone calls between Paul and his biological Father .
The calls are upsetting and extremely awkward.
It is obvious that there is nothing emotional between son & Father.
This judge is one of about four judge's; I love to see on cases (video's) and have great *RESPECT* for...whom DESERVES the title *YOUR HONOR* !!!!
It's astonishing that Paul truly thought he was going to get a light sentence for turning on Shanda. His look of shock was priceless.
Time stamp please! lol I’m so glad he’s going to prison for a long time. Timothy never deserved this
LOL it was a huge difference to his demeaner when the judge was talking about people writing into him (from courttv) about this trial 🤣 sitting up there grinning like he was someone famous.
@@NewdisasterIt was in the last two minutes. It happens pretty fast but it was wonderful to watch. That statement he wrote begging 'only for compassion and merci' didn't help him.
@@Newdisasterat the 50:23 mark
@@elainemackenzie9651do you have the time stamp I can't find it
He is EXACTLY like his Mom! He absolutely knows right from wrong!
That's the point - she raised him to be like her. Do you think she knows right from wrong? I would like to know what Shanda's childhood was like
They both know it’s wrong or else they wouldn’t have hid this abuse, they would have spoke of it casually with others if they didn’t know right from wrong. Nice try.@@jreifsnyder2225
@@jreifsnyder2225 Are you kidding? It's not hard to see that both of them are very intelligent and did not miss a beat during the trials. For sure they KNEW fully what they were doing at the time was WRONG but didn't care. The judge got it right 100%
Don't forget, this creep practiced his control and evil deeds on innocent animals too. Did Mom teach that to him too?
@@jreifsnyder2225She knew enough to lie about it and try to cover it up.. then claim “I don’t remember doing that” because of her “ptsd”.. not only does she know how wrong it was, she is SADISTIC.. and to think she carried that precious innocent baby in her womb for 9 months.. it’s so shocking there’s really not enough words to describe it
And this is why i have nothing but respect for this judge because he wasn't fooled by Paul's antics. And he stands for the jury like the rest of the courtroom and that is huge in my eyes bc not all judges do. THANK YOU FOR JUSTICE FOR TIMOTHY JUDGE!!!!
Paul, you're breathing through your mouth...
"Mama" will call you a dummy...
They thought they had a possible deal for light sentence if testified against his mother - but the judge said "only bread and hot sauce for you, Pauley.."
He already look like he is starving in there, lol
This comment made me laugh…rip sweet Timothy
He said that ??
@@Cookie-gi7cr not exactly that way but yes lol
50:21 Proof Paul is coherent of the meaning "100 years."
I think the charge should have been murder, not child abuse.
Ive watched his little weasel head pop up 10X when the judge said 30-100 years in prison.Loved it!!!
Oh hi Shanda!
May they both suffer from extreme abuse in the prison system !!!!
Let God avenge. He knows how and He will bring it to pass as it should be.
Absolutely 💯 👍👍every day all day what happened to poor Tim broke my heart 💔
Very interesting hearing the findings of the court and what the judge had to say… Ferguson’s reaction to 30 years was the best. 😂🤷🏻♀️
My big brother would have rescued me, i cant imagine how bad that young kid felt, actually dying at the hands of his mom and brother, just so sad
Oh oh ..... Learning more about Paul's thoughts regarding his brother! I suspected as much!
I admire this Judge so much! He's an outstanding representative of justice ❣️🙏🇺🇲
Paul’s statement was so selfish.
Taking no responsibility for his actions. Asking the judge for compassion he never showed his brother.
He only feels bad that he has to pay for his crime. He feels no remorse for what he did to his brother and how he made his brother suffer.
He could’ve clearly saved him. He had many opportunities to call 911 or go to a precinct.
He didn’t even say sorry.
I'm sure they both probably still feel justified in what they did. It was Timothy's fault, for being Timothy 🙄
Very many opportunities!!
No he was trapped in the “family code of silence”. Victims of interfamilial abuse never call for help.
Antisocial personality disorder, sometimes called sociopathy, is a mental health condition in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others.
Thank you judge. Justice has been served. Your mom and brother can't hurt you anymore Timothy. Rest in the arms of Jesus 🙏🙏
Amen🙏🏼✝️🪽
The evil stare he gives the judge after hearing the sentence is exactly what is scary about him and justifies everything the judge said about him. It's a threatening stare. He is a dangerous person!
Please stop giving both him and his mother money to buy extra food that his brother never had. It’s disgusting that they both moan about the prison food they are giving.
I'll send them both lots of bottles of hot sauce
We need more judges like this one in our country. I can’t imagine how difficult it was for him and the jury to hear the gory details of this case. Paul is definitely physcotic & a danger to society. He truly believed he’d serve little or no jail time.
He was so shocked ! He really thought he was going to get off ….
I can't wait to hear his jail calls on TikTok!!
@@babymansmomlmk if you find any plz
yes, he looked so excited at first. from the calls to his brother, he made it sound like he was just gonna walk with time served.... He was going to go live w his brother, have his brother get him work, be free if Timothy and be a famous victim, living happily ever after
@@beth3099 The judge snapped Paul into reality.
there is something wrong with this kid emotionally. He creeps me out too.
He's a psychopath like his momma.
The ONLY reaction to anything that was said was when he was handed the 30 year sentence. Beyond disgusting!
I want the judge to show NOTHING but merci and compassion!? What about justice for Timothy paul?
Such a self serving thing to say of him.
@@twerkingherkin If I accidentally took a life I would tell the judge to give justice to my victim not me.
@@gingerlee726 exactly!
Exactly! And in his jail calls he talks about the great pillow someone bought him that was $33 as well as his need for more food than the average person due to his high metabolism. Oh, and no spicy food!
You've got to be kidding me?!? The lack of self-awareness and introspection is utter hypocrisy! His mother does the same thing. She complained about the prison food and is always asking her friend on the outside to put more money on her commissary so she can get better food. Unreal!!
This judge gets it.
Brilliant compassionate judge! Sentencing statements were fabulous for this monster and his mother. Great job❤️
PAUL KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING TO THAT POOR CHILD.
SAD SAD and SAD
His a monster just like his mother. They should rot in jail
All he had to do was give him food and alert authorities when mom wasn’t home. Simple as.
No. I don't want them to rot in prison. I want prison justice for these sadists. Bubba and Big Bertha justice. Amen
Paulwas accused of sexually abusing Timothy and was removed from the home. Shanda was never supposed to see Timothy without supervision via court rulings . It’s sad .
CPS found those claims to be NOT true and Zav showed the documentation, but she skipped over it in her commentary, thinking her viewers would not read them for themselves!
No- false info
What?
@@jreifsnyder2225 Exactly! Yet people are spreading this like wildfire! Thanks Zav for LEAVING OUT that part in your commentary! A lot of read the accusations were FALSE!!!
She never had custody of Timothy, the father did. So, why didn't the father step in and save Timothy? The sexual assault on Timothy is so very disgusting and disturbing!!
On his phone calls he thought he would go home.
That demonstrates the depth of his self-deception. He cannot discern or judge good from evil.
@@psalm2764
He can absolutely discern good from evil. Are you kidding me?!
His assumption that he would be let off with a slap on the wrist - and “probably won’t even see the inside of a prison cell 😁” as he said on his jail phone calls - shows that he was more confident in his lying and manipulation than he should have been. He knew right from wrong, good from bad, kind from evil, etc., just fine. He relied on his lies and portrayal of himself as a victim to fool people like you and get away with torturing a child to death.
@@Sparkplug2286 He does not fool me. He is delusional.
lucky me, though poor, I only experienced love and care growing up.I just turned 70, and still say daily thanks to my family, passed or alive, in my prayers.
Man, I bet that judge is glad this case it over!!
💯❤️ That judge!🇺🇸
Two sons were destroyed by that witch. Just in two different ways.
He was an abuser before he went to live with his mother
One son had every opportunity to save himself and his brother, he chose not to.
Although Paul must take responsibility for what he has done the environment absolutely created this
i bet u gaby has something too
@@bobbi412 in a different scenario, nature would have taken it's course.
I felt sorry for Paul, until I heard his jailhouse phone calls. He clearly was acting during testimony against his mother, when he pretended to be a pitiful, anxious, confused, and not-too-bright victim of his mother. Actually, he is a shrewd, manipulative, narcissistic man.
Where did you hear the calls? Thank you in advance.
Paul appeared to be acting to me, too. But his disdain for Timothy always shone through.
What was in the phone calls?
@@emilyashley4820 zav girl. That's where u find the calls.
This entire sentencing hearing was like receiving an early Christmas gift!!
Paul sitting there slumped over as if his mind is too damaged to even pay attention & comprehend what is going on… was disgusting… but he sure understood that 30 - 100 - Watching his head fly up and then him take that deep gulp was finally a piece of justice going in the right direction!
Paul enjoy your Prime and more in Jail exactly where you belong!!
Hold onto your blankie, I mean tablet very tight!!
He looks evil
No he looks lost
@@sylviabriggs4087nope
@@sylviabriggs4087lost from what?
He IS evil
@@sylviabriggs4087lost how? He is smiling and laughing when the judge spoke about the fan mail. Then started smirking during several times while the judge was speaking.