Wayne Rooney, Roy Keane & Andy Cole on the Premier League potentially scrapping VAR

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
  • SUBSCRIBE ► bit.ly/SubscribeSkySportsPL
    PREMIER LEAGUE HIGHLIGHTS ► bit.ly/SkyPLHighlights2324
    GET NEXT SEASON'S PREMIER LEAGUE SHIRTS HERE ► bit.ly/SkySportsShop
    Wayne Rooney, Roy Keane & Andy Cole share their thoughts on whether the Premier League should scrap VAR after it was announced that clubs will vote on the possible abolition for next season.
    Watch Premier League LIVE on Sky Sports here ► bit.ly/WatchSkyPL
    ►TWITTER: / skysportspl
    ►FACEBOOK: / skysportsfootball
    ►WEBSITE: www.skysports.com/football
    MORE FROM SKY SPORTS ON CZcams:
    ►SKY SPORTS PREMIER LEAGUE: bit.ly/SubscribeSkySportsPL
    ►SKY SPORTS FOOTBALL: bit.ly/SubscribeSkyFootball
    ►SKY SPORTS BOXING: bit.ly/SSBoxingSub
    ►SKY SPORTS CRICKET: bit.ly/SubscribeSkyCricket
    ►SOCCER AM: bit.ly/SoccerAMSub
    ►SKY SPORTS F1: bit.ly/SubscribeSkyF1
    ►SKY SPORTS: bit.ly/SkySportsSub
    ►SKY SPORTS GOLF: bit.ly/SubscribeSkySportsGolf
  • Sport

Komentáře • 565

  • @sybrenboi
    @sybrenboi Před 13 dny +532

    VAR just shows how poor some referees are at their job...

    • @chy.0190
      @chy.0190 Před 13 dny +3

      We have already seen how poor they were before VAR existed, much more frequently in fact. The recency bias around refs and VAR is funny.

    • @ronnie9891
      @ronnie9891 Před 13 dny +10

      VAR is NOT the Problem. The problem is when VAR can’t over-rule the referees decision which is stupid and creates all the controversy !

    • @isaacpepper5224
      @isaacpepper5224 Před 13 dny

      @@ronnie9891 VAR should be scrapped has not in one way helped officials and it sucks all the enjoyment out of football

    • @docholiday-lm4vf
      @docholiday-lm4vf Před 13 dny +1

      Its corrupt

    • @DavidLawlor-ci8wz
      @DavidLawlor-ci8wz Před 13 dny +2

      Mic the refs up , simple fix

  • @xjacb7223
    @xjacb7223 Před 13 dny +550

    VA is fine, the R is the problem

    • @rohitbapat5244
      @rohitbapat5244 Před 13 dny +5

      Best

    • @coldarcticoasis
      @coldarcticoasis Před 13 dny +1

      Wrong again

    • @rayhankhan8992
      @rayhankhan8992 Před 13 dny +3

      To be honest Var has been horrible and suspicious

    • @alfie2347
      @alfie2347 Před 13 dny +8

      @@rayhankhan8992but it wasn’t var tho it’s the people using it hence the VA being good but the R being bad

    • @ronnie9891
      @ronnie9891 Před 13 dny

      VAR is NOT the Problem. The problem is when VAR can’t over-rule the referees decision which is stupid and creates all the controversy !

  • @ahmed-yassineounnass8085
    @ahmed-yassineounnass8085 Před 13 dny +397

    Recency bias in its finest, back in the non-VAR days. There seemed to be a robbery every weekend of a disallowed goal or a clear offside being allowed.

    • @RobK32
      @RobK32 Před 13 dny +23

      It was exciting though

    • @ayaanlatif2296
      @ayaanlatif2296 Před 13 dny +53

      There’s still a robbery every week😂😂
      Which just shows how bad the refs are

    • @nocraic
      @nocraic Před 13 dny +5

      And there still is, and it stops play

    • @stefanosg1432
      @stefanosg1432 Před 13 dny +23

      @@RobK32 It was NOT exciting seeing your teams goals ruled out for offside when it was actually onside and certainly NOT exciting seeing your opponent score when they were miles offside and it not be ruled out!!!

    • @ClarenceBoddicker87
      @ClarenceBoddicker87 Před 13 dny +9

      It all evened itself out over the season or even in the game itself where mistakes were made. Football is not an exact science there is always going to be errors and mishaps. Football was so much better without VAR. What we are seeing now is a joke, the added time alone is laughable. Problem in the past was that referees were immune from criticism and they never explained their decisions, if they came out now and again and spoke up for themselves there would be a different outlook. People like to pinpoint historical instances like Lampard's ghost goal but dont realise VAR would have probably called handball in the build up where it hits up and bounces onto Lampard, so its never going to be perfect. Thats life. If people are still obsessed with VAR, give the managers 3 chances to use it for a review, within the previous 30 seconds of any incident that they think was a genuine mistake by the referee, and that way the manager or fans can't really have much to complain about and the teams are in control of their own destiny/result.

  • @antonybroster7032
    @antonybroster7032 Před 13 dny +120

    Basically blaming everything on var and not the officials using it

    • @TPCDAZ
      @TPCDAZ Před 13 dny +1

      Var doesn't work without refs. they are one in the same thing thats why

    • @alexblake5264
      @alexblake5264 Před 12 dny

      If a monkey has a machine gun you remove the machine gun

  • @AMIN_mash
    @AMIN_mash Před 13 dny +628

    It's not VAR, it's the refs. We've seen good uses of it all throughout the world.

    • @MrLewbaah
      @MrLewbaah Před 13 dny +35

      No it’s VAR.

    • @PG-go1os
      @PG-go1os Před 13 dny +18

      @@MrLewbaah expand on that

    • @AM2K2
      @AM2K2 Před 13 dny +21

      Match going fans want it to go...it's ruined the game. Also, it's rubbish in La Liga too.

    • @niallsheehan474
      @niallsheehan474 Před 13 dny +9

      How about letting the ref consult a pitch side monitor when in any doubt and leave it at that . Only on pitch officials involved . Have games decided by referee mistakes in not satisfactory either

    • @FelixGallardo1946
      @FelixGallardo1946 Před 13 dny +26

      @@MrLewbaahworked in Qatar World Cup, Works well in the Champions League….

  • @librarygary1618
    @librarygary1618 Před 13 dny +201

    The fact that this is even in consideration is embarrassing. This isn't a talking point in any other top league because their respective referees and FA's aren't blindingly incompetent.
    It's like saying "People are really bad at driving these new fangled things called 'automobiles' so instead of teaching them how to drive without killing themselves, we'll just stick to the horse and buggy." It's insane.

    • @ezehpatrick7619
      @ezehpatrick7619 Před 13 dny

      Fair point ❤

    • @ClarenceBoddicker87
      @ClarenceBoddicker87 Před 13 dny +7

      They are doing it with automated cars, all well and good until it drives you off a bridge isn't it. You don't think football will eventually become fully AI referee automated? And if thats what you want then you are against humanity which is effectively against football and footballers, go watch an ai computer game instead.

    • @ClarenceBoddicker87
      @ClarenceBoddicker87 Před 13 dny

      But maybe in regards to this, we don't need these tools, maybe we need to go back to horse and cart, but thats the debate i guess, everyone will have their own preferences@@librarygary1618

    • @ClarenceBoddicker87
      @ClarenceBoddicker87 Před 13 dny

      Ditto.@@brianduru3753

    • @ronnie9891
      @ronnie9891 Před 13 dny +1

      VAR is NOT the Problem. The problem is when VAR can’t over-rule the referees decision which is stupid and creates all the controversy !

  • @robertnichols9625
    @robertnichols9625 Před 13 dny +216

    Scapping var just because of human error is stupid and a step in the wrong direction.

    • @WRNWRW
      @WRNWRW Před 13 dny

      lets meet in the middle, use var until december and then sack it

    • @wahidj4773
      @wahidj4773 Před 13 dny

      ​@@user-ob4wo9po2yso you want a team lose on a offside goal right? Or undeserved penalty?

  • @MH-vp7lf
    @MH-vp7lf Před 13 dny +52

    Love how Cole still calls Keane "skip"

  • @tccandler
    @tccandler Před 13 dny +349

    Fix VAR. Don't scrap it. It used to be 100 times worse when an clear error cost your team a win.

    • @jimcooper1053
      @jimcooper1053 Před 13 dny +37

      It’s way worse when your team is denied a clear decision which has had a group of people watching it on repeat on a tv screen my friend

    • @chryzos3091
      @chryzos3091 Před 13 dny

      ​@@jimcooper1053no

    • @tccandler
      @tccandler Před 13 dny +11

      @@jimcooper1053 But far more infrequent than the daily glaring errors we had before.

    • @jwgti2314
      @jwgti2314 Před 13 dny +4

      Clear errors in VAR still cost teams a win…..

    • @tccandler
      @tccandler Před 13 dny +5

      @@jwgti2314 Not nearly as often. 90% is better than 50%.

  • @danielhughes7359
    @danielhughes7359 Před 13 dny +79

    If we scrap var now, i guarantee there will be numerous instnaces on the first weekend that pundits will say var would of gor the right decision

    • @PG-go1os
      @PG-go1os Před 13 dny +11

      100% agree. didn't seem like too long ago when fans were asking for VAR in the EPL because of refereeing errors.

    • @PG-go1os
      @PG-go1os Před 13 dny +1

      @@Emptybladder i feel like you need a hug or something, cheer up

    • @BruceLee1.0
      @BruceLee1.0 Před 13 dny

      I think VAR would be there for offside call i guess

    • @MultiFifa007
      @MultiFifa007 Před 13 dny

      But var isn't getting the right desicion right anyway

    • @Benpepejamin
      @Benpepejamin Před 12 dny +1

      It's a "can't live with it, can't live without it" situation tbh...

  • @AM2K2
    @AM2K2 Před 13 dny +47

    There is a divide between people who actually go to the game and people who sit at home and watch it on TV.

    • @georgehitchen702
      @georgehitchen702 Před 13 dny +5

      Is there though? I’m a so called “armchair fan” and I can’t stand var. it needs to be scrapped across worldwide football not just PL

    • @anjolatope-babalola2338
      @anjolatope-babalola2338 Před 13 dny +8

      ​@@georgehitchen702 lmao
      Var Is 100x better than non var

    • @LookatmySquirrelhands
      @LookatmySquirrelhands Před 13 dny +5

      ⁠​⁠@@anjolatope-babalola2338 that’s funny because I’d go with 100x better without var

    • @maccawhite423
      @maccawhite423 Před 13 dny +1

      @@anjolatope-babalola2338your crazy.

    • @lewiseverett2588
      @lewiseverett2588 Před 12 dny +1

      @@LookatmySquirrelhandsHe's right - it's much worse having clear errors not even appealed. They just need to fix the refs in the VAR room.

  • @sam8893
    @sam8893 Před 13 dny +33

    Just feel like the whole idea was rushed. What I can’t work out, is that if you watch the champions league or any other league outside of England, the referees are competent enough to use it. Need an overhaul of tops refs in our league.

  • @Lumi-OF-Model
    @Lumi-OF-Model Před 13 dny +117

    When it gets scspped watch all this pelt complain the opposite way.

    • @liverbot4854
      @liverbot4854 Před 13 dny +9

      We’ll see decisions go haywire and fans will be baffled. Referees like Simon Hooper and Anthony Taylor will make even worse decisions if VAR isn’t holding their hand.

    • @jessetaylor4357
      @jessetaylor4357 Před 12 dny

      VAR is the worst thing ever it needs to go

    • @eaglemmoomin_418
      @eaglemmoomin_418 Před 12 dny

      ​@@liverbot4854yep everyone has forgotten why VAR even exists in the first place. The muppets running it and some of the stupid decision making around how it was implemented needs to go, not the idea itself.

  • @M-E_123
    @M-E_123 Před 13 dny +17

    My solutions for VAR -
    1 - Bring in the semi-automated offside as it seems to work well whenever it's been used (similar to the goal line technology "Hawk Eye" - never get complaints about those decisions now - it just seems to work due to limited human involvement).
    2 - No lines drawn for offside - if it's so close that you can't tell from a single still frame within 5-10 seconds, the on pitch decision stands or give the benefit to the attacker for being "in line".
    3 - Have time limits on VAR checks - if they can't find an error within the time limit (say 30 seconds showing 2-3 different angles), the on pitch decision stands.
    4 - If a penalty or red card offence is missed due to not having the right camera angle shown to the VAR during the check period the player gets an automatic 1 match ban following the game, which can be upgraded for red cards / violent conduct as necessary.
    5 - If the referee communicates their onfield decision that the VAR can see is factually wrong (such as saying someone "played the ball" when challenging in the box but video shows they didn't - even if VAR considers there wasn't sufficient contact for a penalty) it should be an automatic referral to the pitchside monitor for the referee to make their new decision - same time limit applies to the referee's pitchside review as would for VAR.
    6 - Referee's can ask to carry out a pitchside review of an incident they know they didn't get a good look at, under the same time limits as VAR would have.
    7 - VAR officials selected from a completely separate pool to Referee's & Linesmen.
    8 - VAR to have a separate management structure to the on pitch officials - including potentially a different organisation running it to PGMOL.
    9 - If VAR realises they've made an error or that there has been miscommunication around the referee decision or the VAR decision, they should tell the referee to bring the game back and correct the mistake.
    10 - Revise the handball rules - currently too many reasons penalties aren't given due to "subjective decisions" - for the sake of consistency a system similar to UEFA competitions, which removes some of those considerations should be adopted by the Premier League.
    11 - Criticism of Referee's by managers, players, club officials, and club social media accounts can more often result in bans & point deductions rather than fines and warnings - cut that moaning out of the game.
    12 - this includes an automatic 6 point deduction for any threats to take legal action over refereeing decisions, or attempts to influence the officials appointed to a particular match (or questioning the integrity of referee's) with no appeals - not saying they can't take legal action if they have genuine suspicion / evidence of match fixing, but don't threaten it as a way to try and pressure / influence referees & VAR.
    13 - VAR audio should be available "live" - doesn't always have to be broadcast live or played in the stadium, but the TV people can play the audio of big decisions at half time / full time as part of their coverage.
    14 - The 2 benches should have a live feed so someone from the clubs can hear the audio& see the images reviewed by VAR in real time so they understand the decisions being made.
    15 - If the ground has a big screen, the VAR check images should be shown live to the crowd.

  • @Cole_King
    @Cole_King Před 13 dny +8

    I once met Andy Cole in Kingston, Surrey absolute legend 😎

  • @Hittingitstiff
    @Hittingitstiff Před 13 dny +17

    As a Burnley season ticket holder who's experienced VAR in the Prem and no VAR in The Championship, not having VAR is so much better. You can actually celebrate goals without that nagging feeling that it may still be ruled out. You also don't have to sit there for 5 minutes having zero idea of what's going on. Get rid!!

    • @brianduru3753
      @brianduru3753 Před 13 dny +8

      Just keep that energy when a wrong discussion goes against you.

    • @KingKeno777
      @KingKeno777 Před 13 dny +1

      I would rather the officials get the correct call

    • @Hittingitstiff
      @Hittingitstiff Před 13 dny +1

      @@brianduru3753 You did read my comment, right? I watch football in The Championship, which doesn't have VAR, hence I'm used to seeing a lot of wrong decisions. I also watched football for 25+ years before VAR was introduced and I know what I preferred. I was all for VAR before it was introduced but it just doesn't function properly. It slows the game down, ruins the fan experience in the stadium and, because football is subjective, loads of wrong decisions are still being made.

    • @geoffreyperson2717
      @geoffreyperson2717 Před 11 dny

      @@Hittingitstiff It doesn't function properly IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE. If you watch the Champions League, the wait times are a fraction of the PL's, automated offsides takes no time at all, and actually competent refs from varying countries who don't really know each other (gotta break up that old boys club in the PL) are making far fewer errors. World Cup and Euros, you'll see about the same level too. That's what it looks like when properly implemented, so we know it can work, it's just a matter of bringing in proper talent without conflicts of interest and smoothing out the processes.

  • @TaylorsTypicalLife
    @TaylorsTypicalLife Před 13 dny +10

    To me, VAR should only be applied in egregious cases where the on field call is undeniably wrong. Horror tackles for red, clear offsides, etc. When the play could go either way, just let the on field call stand. Being offside by a millimeter makes no difference and there's no way to know that the lines are drawn correctly

    • @yesdcotchin
      @yesdcotchin Před 13 dny

      sounds suspiciously like what VAR is meant to theoretically be for, i.e. clear and obvious

  • @MrLewbaah
    @MrLewbaah Před 13 dny +32

    No one in the championship is moaning there’s no VAR. Football without it is miles better

    • @unconditionalLove1
      @unconditionalLove1 Před 13 dny +7

      There are almost nightly complaints in the championship lol

    • @MrLewbaah
      @MrLewbaah Před 13 dny +5

      @@unconditionalLove1 no there’s not.

    • @brianduru3753
      @brianduru3753 Před 13 dny +1

      Lol people complain about rubbish refereeing in the championship all the time. The standard of refereeing there is even worse than the PL.
      The only reason you don't hear about it is that Sky doesn't care about the championship.

    • @DCFC_Ryan
      @DCFC_Ryan Před 13 dny +3

      I've seen my team score wrongly disallowed goals that would have been awarded with VAR. Still don't want it. One of the best things about lower league football is that there isn't this circus with VAR.

  • @WhatTimeIsIt999
    @WhatTimeIsIt999 Před 13 dny +4

    When Cole said ill leave that to the skip. Roy Keane needs to wear a skippers armband on in the studio

  • @PG-go1os
    @PG-go1os Před 13 dny +19

    the issue isn't the technology but it's the way it was implemented and the way it's being used. it's nowhere near as big of an issue in other leagues across the world. scrapping VAR all together would be moving backwards. the EPL needs to change how they're using VAR, not completely get rid of it.

    • @PG-go1os
      @PG-go1os Před 13 dny +5

      by the time VAR was implemented, a number of leagues were using VAR without issue. the EPL decided to implement VAR their own way which was messy, it didn't make sense, and only upset teams, players, and fans. the fact that the EPL didn't install pitchside monitors until the second season of VAR was insane to say the least.
      there are so many things the league could do to make the use of VAR better (better communication protocols, have refs field questions from the media post-game, implement semi-automatic offsides, etc.), this would be a step backwards. i predict that if they were to do away with VAR, then teams who are on the wrong side of decisions will beg to have VAR back.

    • @alanc4407
      @alanc4407 Před 13 dny +3

      @@PG-go1os Spot on. Smart businesses fix the problem. They work on continuous improvement of something. They do not scrap it and stick their heads into the sand.

    • @PG-go1os
      @PG-go1os Před 13 dny

      @@Emptybladder 😂

    • @peterpauloreilly4993
      @peterpauloreilly4993 Před 13 dny

      The issue is it’s slowing the game down ffs idiot

  • @truethug
    @truethug Před 13 dny +35

    82% accuracy for goal decisions to 96% with VAR according to sky sports. You can’t win.

    • @MrLewbaah
      @MrLewbaah Před 13 dny +11

      Haha who made them stats up. PGMOL I bet haha get rid can’t wait

    • @AM2K2
      @AM2K2 Před 13 dny +9

      Arbitrary percentages - at what cost? The enjoyment of the match going experience.

    • @polreamonn
      @polreamonn Před 13 dny

      "There are lies, damned lies...................and then there are statistics" Benjamin Disraeli.

    • @WRNWRW
      @WRNWRW Před 13 dny +5

      if you'd watch games of football you'd know this is fake stat. each week some club is scoring a goal and gets it disallowed

    • @TheApprentice1892
      @TheApprentice1892 Před 13 dny +1

      Even if them percentages are correct most of them would be the offsides they used to be terrible at, don’t think anyone is moaning about the automated offside technology that’s coming in and I don’t know anyone who would want to get rid of that.

  • @J16795
    @J16795 Před 13 dny +5

    With automated offside next season, I don't see why VAR can't be scrapped

    • @tariqomer4678
      @tariqomer4678 Před 13 dny +2

      Autimated offside can't help you with you handballs and fouls

  • @gazzad43
    @gazzad43 Před 13 dny +4

    Please just get rid of it

  • @swordprophet
    @swordprophet Před 13 dny +3

    I feel var would be fine if it stuck to determining clear & obvious errors instead of looking if a player was a mm offside or looking at fouls in slow motion another thing that could improve it is if ex players were doing it instead of refs

  • @f0urstr1ng
    @f0urstr1ng Před 13 dny +3

    Rugby and cricket use video assistance really well. It still isn’t perfect and they still get a few things wrong but it is all there in the open for spectators to see and hear (or TV viewers at least - not sure about in the ground) and whether you agree or not it can be seen how decisions are arrived at. There is also a clear system of communication between the on field ref and the guys in the video room - not a rabble talking unintelligibly over each other which the prem seems to feel is an acceptable use of the technology. So my thoughts are consult rugby and cricket officials, establish protocols for clear methods of communication, stick it on the screen (every ground has one) and broadcast the audio live.

  • @scholesiefirsttime
    @scholesiefirsttime Před 13 dny +3

    Don’t scrap VAR. Fix it.

    • @billymallett297
      @billymallett297 Před 13 dny

      Are you joking. It is literally KILLING our game

    • @scholesiefirsttime
      @scholesiefirsttime Před 13 dny

      @@billymallett297because its not being deployed properly. Need to persevere. If it works in other sports, it can work in football.

  • @oscar_a5693
    @oscar_a5693 Před 13 dny +4

    Yes please! Remove this VAR nonsense.

  • @rammus5672
    @rammus5672 Před 13 dny +2

    I dont think fans have a problem with VAR its the inconsistency

  • @jameelahmad9305
    @jameelahmad9305 Před 13 dny +7

    Goal line tech should stay yes.
    Offside calls should be semi auto like the World Cup and UCL.
    And limited appeals (like 2 appeals a game) by captains are fair. Have it transparent like Rugby with the ref speaking to the captain and has monitor access that has a Mike there. And scrap "clear and obvious" for "right and wrong" there's no in-between.

  • @RedDevil_Joe
    @RedDevil_Joe Před 13 dny +9

    Get that automated system for offsides but scrap VAR generally. But you know people are gonna complain the other way around if they do 😂🤦‍♂️

  • @BenFleury
    @BenFleury Před 13 dny +2

    We’ll have just as many controversies and wrong decisions made if VAR is scrapped.
    All it needs is huge reform, so for example have ex players in charge of VAR but as long as they don’t have any association with either clubs to avoid bias.
    So for example you couldn’t have Shearer in charge of VAR for a Newcastle game.
    I believe that offside technology has been introduced for next season as well which may help.

  • @Slim2Flo
    @Slim2Flo Před 13 dny +1

    Literally wayne said it perfectly. Takes all the enjoyment out of the game.

  • @BLACKSTA361
    @BLACKSTA361 Před 13 dny +4

    What they should do is give a Team limited amount of challenges they can use per Game like they do in Basketball or Tennis.
    2 or 3 per Team should do

    • @antoinejamaigne9420
      @antoinejamaigne9420 Před 13 dny

      Or unlimited calls until they get one wrong. That way players/managers won’t cry over a 50/50 decision, they’ll need to be absolutely certain about it

  • @stephen301281
    @stephen301281 Před 13 dny +1

    Getting rid of it would be such a step backwards. Just make it better.

  • @Akinwalesegun
    @Akinwalesegun Před 13 dny +22

    When it gets scspped watch all this pelt complain the opposite way

  • @chryzos3091
    @chryzos3091 Před 13 dny +3

    Its only really a problem in the prem

    • @GeorgeKnight201101PR
      @GeorgeKnight201101PR Před 13 dny

      Explain why Sweden scrapped VAR then. There are loads of complaints about VAR in the La Liga too, it’s been a mere in the Champions League as well. This is a load of waffle.

  • @aaronmail8836
    @aaronmail8836 Před 13 dny +3

    If VAR goes then teams will be winning games by offside goals

  • @furfur5070
    @furfur5070 Před 13 dny +4

    well said all three of you - get rid!

  • @minibobber
    @minibobber Před 12 dny

    Correct decisions without VAR: 80%
    With VAR: 96%

  • @Plymonk666
    @Plymonk666 Před 11 dny

    Gordon loves it because he plays it better than anyone for us, but even he wants it better 1:17

  • @alistairsmith5389
    @alistairsmith5389 Před 13 dny +2

    Howard Webb about to be queuing up at the job centre. 😂

  • @ZainAli-st6sh
    @ZainAli-st6sh Před 13 dny +2

    I don’t think u can get rid of VAR now. It’s been implemented and it’s obviously getting a lot right even if some things are wrong. Can we go back to a football where if a goal is scored and it comes from a play involving a foul or offside and it stands, will fans accept that? Would that be right? I think VAR needs to be upgraded. Have we not got the technology for us to have it automatically call for offsides/ fouls? Instead of having someone interpret a foul and take 5 minutes to make a decision based off his own eyes. Instead it should be automatic and it tells the ref a straight up yes or no. Off side should be easy now. It’s a straight line. Get rid of linesmen and have a fully automated offside system. For fouls/ red cards should keep a screen on the side but definitely have a system that tells the ref if it’s a foul by the letter of the law. If the ref agrees he can get things moving quicker, if not he can make his decision and deal with the consequences.

  • @mohinmiah6763
    @mohinmiah6763 Před 13 dny +2

    Only in England😂 Every other major league or competition who have implemented VAR have had no complaints. The referees just need to stop panicking and streamline the process, forget the grey area and decide specifically which decisions require VAR and which is solely in the hands of the referee. Once again proof that the best league has the worst refs.

  • @anikapriyam3594
    @anikapriyam3594 Před 11 dny

    I love Var… especially when ur rival fans celebrate and then its disallowed… just priceless

  • @marloncampos1361
    @marloncampos1361 Před 12 dny

    VAR in the premier league is one of the best I have seen, other leagues don't even show what is being reviewed and take twice the time or more

  • @Alexgibbo5
    @Alexgibbo5 Před 13 dny +1

    How difficult is it to separate VAR from PGMOL so they stop looking after each other instead of reffing the game? It's the obvious solution.

  • @cuffy6322
    @cuffy6322 Před 12 dny

    If they keep VAR, they need to change the offside laws. Being called offside because of a toenail is ridiculous.

  • @danquixote6072
    @danquixote6072 Před 13 dny

    Real Madrid scored a winning goal to get into the Champions League final. That goal was originally ruled offisde. I didn't see any Real Madrid fans moaning when the goal was shown to be onside by VAR.

  • @Eros7Black10
    @Eros7Black10 Před 11 dny

    The season after no VAR seasons fans would debate the opposite and try to bring back VAR

  • @ASilver526
    @ASilver526 Před 13 dny +18

    Get rid of VAR

    • @Aaaronlondon
      @Aaaronlondon Před 13 dny

      YOUR ANOTHER OLD GEEZER THAT HATES THE NEW WAVE GET USED TO IT

  • @DjDugiUK
    @DjDugiUK Před 13 dny +8

    Ditch it 1000%

  • @JamesLimb
    @JamesLimb Před 13 dny

    Its not VAR its the officials. It works well in other countries. It's the people using it

  • @lemmiwinks200
    @lemmiwinks200 Před 13 dny

    VAR isn't the problem. Its the incompetence of the people running it.
    VAR works, the idea is great. It needs an independent third-party to run it imo

  • @ClarenceBoddicker87
    @ClarenceBoddicker87 Před 13 dny +1

    IF PEOPLE STILL WANT VAR, GIVE MANAGERS 3 VAR REVIEWS
    That review has to take place within 30 seconds of the said incident.
    It then has to be reviewed by three independent judges not linked to the referee team in anyway, who must meet a 2-1 or 3-0 decision. A report explaining their decision must then be published within 30 minutes of the game finishing and one of the judges has to give a tv interview after every game explaining their decisions.
    As for the referee's, they also have to make themselves more visible in regards to explaining their calls and they also can't be immune from criticism, but also not demonised providing they explain themselves. Of course if they are consistently and constantly bad, they need to be demoted or removed for a period of time.
    It can be done if the manager has genuine concern if a foul went uncalled or the referee made the wrong decision.
    They get one more if a game goes to extra time.
    This way the manager is in charge of his own decisions and we get more transparency with the decision making across the board. Plus we also get more speed, excitement and drama back without always trying to turn the game into an exact science.

    • @myleslewis341
      @myleslewis341 Před 13 dny

      Absolutely i agree, make it like the cricket!

  • @finnewberry8738
    @finnewberry8738 Před 12 dny

    VAR has been used for 5 years now how has it not even been discussed removing it yet

  • @atefelabed8365
    @atefelabed8365 Před 11 dny

    In my opinion, VAR is one of the best innovations ever in sports. How many times, did fans have their hearts broken only to realise that goals shouldn't have stood when we watch the reply.

  • @dedwardsdrums92
    @dedwardsdrums92 Před 13 dny

    Fans who actually go to the game will understand football is better without VAR. People who watch on the tv do not understand the full negative impact it has on the game in that situation, regardless of a wrong or right decision.

  • @Kobble8
    @Kobble8 Před 13 dny +9

    That would be so backwards. An easy fix would just be: only use VAR if there’s a clear and obvious error. Decisions have to be made within a few seconds. Otherwise, just stick with the refs decision.

    • @user-bi4bb6cd9s
      @user-bi4bb6cd9s Před 13 dny +3

      "Clear and obvious error" is also subjective. For example, in the N.Forest vs. Everton game, there were at least 2 "clear and obvious errors" yet still VAR did not think so

    • @jameelahmad9305
      @jameelahmad9305 Před 13 dny

      Goal line tech should stay yes.
      Offside calls should be semi auto like the World Cup and UCL.
      And limited appeals (like 2 appeals a game) by captains are fair. Have it transparent like Rugby with the ref speaking to the captain and has monitor access that has a Mike there. And scrap "clear and obvious" for "right and wrong" there's no in-between.

    • @sabate1194
      @sabate1194 Před 13 dny +1

      Thats the current rule apparently. If it takes 5 minutes to analyse an offside it's not clear and obvious and thats happening on multiple games most weekends

    • @Kobble8
      @Kobble8 Před 13 dny +1

      @@user-bi4bb6cd9s Then stick with the refs’ decision

    • @Kobble8
      @Kobble8 Před 13 dny

      @@sabate1194 That’s why there should be 15-30 sec limit. Otherwise stick with the refs decision.

  • @MisterPimpernel
    @MisterPimpernel Před 12 dny

    I think VAR going would really hurt some teams, like Villa and Tottenham, that employ Offside traps. A lot more offside goals would be getting through against teams like that.

  • @Rayk76
    @Rayk76 Před 12 dny

    Var has proven how poor the officials operating it are

  • @justmangojuice
    @justmangojuice Před 13 dny

    Who cares about the celebration, getting the right decision is more important.

  • @kallianz
    @kallianz Před 13 dny +1

    VAR is a great system and has shown so in European matches and international tournaments. What VAR has done in England is expose the SHCOKING incompetence of the referees.

  • @CheekyBrit
    @CheekyBrit Před 12 dny

    Var for offside seems really sensible. Same as goal line tech. Everything else, keep it with on-field ref.

  • @Micronisus
    @Micronisus Před 12 dny

    VAR is like any tool-it's meant to be used correctly by those who understand it. When someone doesn't know how to use a tool properly, it's not the tool's fault. Other European leagues might not be as vocal about VAR because they might have found a better balance in its application or have different views on its effectiveness. The key is ensuring VAR is used appropriately by knowledgeable officials

  • @ulkigmeme2703
    @ulkigmeme2703 Před 12 dny

    VAR is not possible but no VAR would be a disgrace.

  • @zkhan004
    @zkhan004 Před 13 dny +1

    Scrapping VAR does nothing, in fact it will make things worse. It's the referees that are the problem

  • @lefinlan
    @lefinlan Před 13 dny

    I don’t want them to get rid of it.

  • @danh4859
    @danh4859 Před 13 dny

    Offside and goal line tech only

  • @donner101
    @donner101 Před 13 dny

    VAR is also causing excess time added on at the end which means stop start running which is causing more injuries.

  • @ss_GOAT
    @ss_GOAT Před 13 dny

    Please don't scrap it. Improve it instead..

  • @Dwightpower42
    @Dwightpower42 Před 13 dny

    I’ve had to stop watching live football the VAR is that annoying. If they scrap it I’ll be back to watching every week

  • @Sean-sf1qx
    @Sean-sf1qx Před 13 dny +5

    People saying it’s the refs and not VAR have never been to a game in their life

  • @TheJesterSKW
    @TheJesterSKW Před 12 dny

    I get why everyone wants it gone but it just needs better people in charge and have automated offside

  • @Koborover
    @Koborover Před 13 dny

    Keep VAR. I don't mind the waiting when it clearly reduces (not eliminates) chance of human error.

  • @_Gecko111
    @_Gecko111 Před 13 dny

    Keep goal line technology, and scrap VAR.

  • @Barwal7
    @Barwal7 Před 13 dny

    Look who are talking.. Keane and Rooney used to be the ones who would lose heads and do something stupid. Pre-VAR they used to get away with that stuff. But now it is quite impossible. It has made the game fairer and spared the agony of that controversial penalty or offside call that would have changed the game.

  • @antistraveling3522
    @antistraveling3522 Před 13 dny +6

    It’s not VAR it’s the people
    Bring in a time limit of say a minute or 2 if it takes longer than that it’s not clear and obvious

    • @billymallett297
      @billymallett297 Před 13 dny

      Are you joking. It is literally KILLING our game

    • @tariqomer4678
      @tariqomer4678 Před 13 dny

      ​@@billymallett297Enjoy goals like Lampard 2010 for the rest of your life. Enjoy Chelsea V Barca 2009 for the rest of your life

  • @Rufus100
    @Rufus100 Před 13 dny +1

    Keep VAR, the officials are the problem

  • @Astro_Gorilla
    @Astro_Gorilla Před 13 dny

    Improve the system, make the rules work with VAR - like a clear understandable handball rule and keep going until it works.

  • @redlady935
    @redlady935 Před 13 dny

    They should just have a var pannel of 10 who press buzzer to vote once seen replay - less likely to be error then if go with majority.

  • @SmilingFishingRod-eb8cl
    @SmilingFishingRod-eb8cl Před 13 dny +1

    Scrap VAR, Football isnt Rugby, Tennis or any other sport. Football is beautifully unpredictable. VAR has affected football 10x more negatively than it has any other sport and its because football isn't meant to be perfect... many great moments over the past century on a football pitch has been defined by a bad ref decision, you win some you lose some, football was perfect before VAR, fans dont want their kids not knowing what the great sport once was...

  • @wilder17
    @wilder17 Před 11 dny

    its tough because it does get more right, however, having gone to a match live a couple weeks ago I can say that its terrible for the match going supporters. I had no idea a goal was disallowed after having celebrated it... i'd keep the offside VAR and maybe scrap the rest. for the most part watching on TV its a bit frustrating but less confusing

  • @nightking5907
    @nightking5907 Před 12 dny

    It was always going to come to this from day 1

  • @maajkemii
    @maajkemii Před 12 dny

    I don't want clubs losing points over offsides. I'm so surprised these ex players want that. I remember catastrophic mistakes and there is no getting back to times before VAR. I don't mind that it takes long, it's fair

  • @zaidahmed9527
    @zaidahmed9527 Před 13 dny

    They should introduce an appeal system like tennis hawk eye. And only two appeals per game and only offsides

  • @Charles-qw4hv
    @Charles-qw4hv Před 13 dny

    Var should be used for offsides only.

  • @shashankjayaram
    @shashankjayaram Před 13 dny +1

    The premier league just has bad referees. Both in the VAR booth and on the field

  • @DF-ih5wl
    @DF-ih5wl Před 13 dny

    At minimum VAR exposes how bad the referees are. They have to apologize and explain the decisions. Without VAR the decisions will always favor the big clubs. Of course, ex-MU players have fond memories of how easy it was to win in the past.

  • @Framebyframe181
    @Framebyframe181 Před 13 dny

    It’s taken all the joy out of the game,even if someone sticks it in the top corner from 40 yards out your wondering if VAR will over rule it for some minor infringement in the build up to it

  • @mohra968
    @mohra968 Před 13 dny

    Fix the personnel, VAR can help if used correctly

  • @fredasquithYT
    @fredasquithYT Před 13 dny

    Calling for what it was like before is the biggest case of rose tinted glasses I've ever known. Every single week before VAR we were talking about clear offsides or penalties not being called. Human error with VAR is better than the human error we had without. Improve the USE of VAR, make it more efficient and consistent.
    EDIT SORRY I'VE BEEN TRIGGERED but ALSO, we can literally see the exact same system being used brilliantly in european and international games, which makes it even more dumb to suggest it can't be successful here. We can literally see it working

  • @all-caps3927
    @all-caps3927 Před 13 dny +1

    They should scrap off sides when the player is off by 1cm it's a joke. VAR as a whole should stay though, the refs are the problem not VAR

    • @macriggland6526
      @macriggland6526 Před 13 dny

      A breezy solution to the whole thing is to draw the lines based on the players feet and make it semi-automated.

  • @ClaggyPants
    @ClaggyPants Před 13 dny

    VAR has a place. however, if they cant make a decision in 30 seconds then the on field decision should stand. The ref should never be told to go and watch a replay on a screen either so he can second guess his original decision. Wolves mentioned overreaching in their statement and that defintely feels to me the way it's gone.

  • @GM-fn3ku
    @GM-fn3ku Před 12 dny

    This is a PR move from VAR as they know everyone will vote for it

  • @zainsharif7743
    @zainsharif7743 Před 13 dny

    Coley still referring to Roy Keane as "skip", shows how good he was.

  • @Anthony-cb6wg
    @Anthony-cb6wg Před 13 dny

    I don't know one football fan who doesn't want it scrapped, but it won't be because the football league will take the back hander to keep it, that is how the world is run today.

  • @smahajan1995
    @smahajan1995 Před 13 dny

    For me, the biggest problem with VAR is the insane time wasting.. If VAR official sees an issue with on field ref's call, they should straightaway order the ref to overturn, whether its for a goal or a red card offense..
    The only reason VAR becomes so much of an issue and ruins the entertainment is because of these long ass interruptions where all us viewers are doing is watching multiple replays of the calls and they become the talking point
    VAR will reduce a lot of limelight on it if it stays out of the limelight and give quick decisions

  • @WisdomTeet
    @WisdomTeet Před 13 dny

    Can't believe they all said that .... Let's go back to blatantly wrong decisions rather than marginally wrong decisions.?????!.... Putting millimetres on an offside is ridiculous and that's the problem

  • @Scorpion81177
    @Scorpion81177 Před 12 dny

    I agree with these legends. Get rid of VAR

  • @Villain1874
    @Villain1874 Před 13 dny

    100% get rid of VAR