India's Auto Boom: The Next China?
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- čas přidán 29. 12. 2023
- Is India on the verge of an automotive boom? And could it become the next China for the automotive industry? Discover the untapped potential and challenges of the world's fastest-growing market. 🚗🌍
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India is not the next china or america... New India is next India.
India is the next india, India will build toliets and rickshaws
@@KijjiSale we are not like you who charge for toilets
@KijjiSale hater😂
@@KijjiSaleindeed we need to provide basic facilities to our people first before anythingelse😊 ( excluding muslims)
agreed dude , 100% truth
As an Indian and owner of Indian Electric car Tata Nexon EV. I would say Tata still dominates the EV car market and will continue to do so.
only in India
Indian population is 40% more than American Continent, 2% more than African Continent, almost 25% of total Asian population. TATA is struggling to fulfil own country's demand. TATA owns Jaguar and LR export world wide. @@firdausidris6367
India only this much government tax and motor department RTO road tax this much and half of the cars price , this is very bad no other country do this , we should stop this before people pointing government
@@firdausidris6367 And India is the biggest market in the world.
@@sunnyboynfs Maybe 50 years later.
I don't think German cars command that much of a goodwill nowadays. Indian and Japanese brands have much more goodwill. But greater competition in the market is always encouraged.
Yes because of constant Western lecture on India . Western companies are frowned upon recently .
@@rimurutempest2130🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What's so funny . It is a fact . Loss is on European companies due to Propaganda of western governments . @@Robbert_nl
@@Robbert_nl And German cars need constantly to be towed to the dealer when it breaksdown.
The order is Japanese, Korean, Indian and then German.
German cars are infamous in India for unreliablity and high maintenance.
Korean and Japanese brands are far better , and Indian brands are not much behind them .
And Chinese EVs are a generation ahead of anyone else
@@manjeetgill1not sure against Tesla
@@manjeetgill1
Maybe true but Chinise is thing of past.. now we want our own country’s car like SUV 700
@@manjeetgill1 yes, they are hot favourites. they are hot especially after they burn.
never know when they stop working because its Chinese🤣🤣🤣🤣
In india luxury does not mean a long sedan which is fast and comfortable, but it actually means a big powerful comfortable eye turning SUV, and only Brand to dominate that is and will be Mahindra, for electric cars it will be TATA
Global market for Luxury Sedan is drastically decreasing. Not just in India, everywhere in world SUVs are gaining traction. Even Rolls Royce and Bentley started making SUV. Demand for SUVs in North America and Australia is far bigger than in India. Big 3 even stopped making Sedans in the US. So India is just late in adopting SUV culture.
@@kannans7027 it not a competition, just that people are finally realising how versatile SUVs are globally
And no in India SUVs have always had this image and Mahindra which has always been one of the biggest manufacturers in India has only made SUVs since it was started
toyota: hold my chai
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@@devanshawasthi2938 fortuner is a model not manufacturer, but yeah Toyota is selling well too, just one problem fortuner is too overpriced and don't even have the features and comfort, it's still selling well because of the blind hype and lack of awareness among that customer segment
With Tata and Mahindra upping their game so much, why would anyone want a German car.
Drive a german car to know why? Fool
Exactly
just to show off that they have black money to throw
@@ayushkumar-bg1xf100%
@@ayushkumar-bg1xfwhat do you mean by that?
German manufacturers stand a chance in India only if they prioritize providing aftersales services and conduct audits on their service centers to ensure fair practices. The cost of getting German machines fixed is high, and the limited training of mechanics in dealing with German cars aftermarket, especially those based on chips, poses a challenge. Often, even minor issues are exaggerated by dealers, leading to unnecessary part replacements. The scarcity of mechanics capable of working on German cars aftermarket further compounds the problem. Despite claims by Volkswagen and Skoda about their 2.0 initiatives in India, this issue remains unresolved, hindering their success in the Indian market until addressed.
This is a great point
@@DWREV Traditionally for first 2-3 years of ownership Indian customer takes their vehicle to dealership for maintenance, thereafter they prefer to go an aftermarket for service due to unnecessary high cost maintenance at dealership. That is where the know-how and capability has a bigger role to play by aftermarket service stations, typically Japanese cars wins this segment by large, so the person who is buying new and keeps for 2-3 or max 5 years and the next owner who buys them as pre-owned both has a win-win situation. Korean cars kept the maintenance cost almost at par with aftermarket. On the other hand German brands loses on this area, people in remote areas gets afraid to buy them. Potential solution for German brands could be - Tie up with aftermarket service chain and equip them with tools and training or control the service cost at dealership. Secondly the dealership experience, we Indians like to get pampered with good 1:1 care at dealership including repeated follow-up - which is largely missing at any German dealership in India. On the other hand it is very unlikely you will come out empty hand (without buying or decision finalised) from any Hyundai or Suzuki showroom, the amount of care and attention they provides will make you almost obligated to buy the product.
german manufatcurer used plastics even in engines , i have bmw x3 (i am in usa) its a money pit even by usa standard
@@ayushkumar-bg1xf The timing chain design of Audis is a big mess too. They use plastic as chain guides, and it is bomb to repair it at dealer.
Rightly put
As an auto enthusiast I can say that we in India are making a huge mistake by prioritising non walkable roads everywhere and personal transport by car instead of public transport. But seems like govt has realised the wrong approach in the last year or two so 🤞🏼
Not everywhere. Usually in Bengaluru
@@js913 unfortunately it's happening everywhere now. Almost all new infra development in tier 2,3 cities is for cars only. Ground is being covered by asphalt or concrete right till the shops, homes edge. infact tier 1s and metros are realising their mistake but 2, 3 are going all out on cars which is unsustainable economically and socially. This would have consequences 20 years from now when the repair bill and increased crime, health cost bills would strike
Not true.. haven't you noticed the capital inflows coming public transport the railway has more capital expenditure alloted in the last 7 years than the previous 50 years combined ..the infrastructure is changing rapidly.. we can never be a Denmark and let bicycles take the lead..we are too huge a country for that..look at the metros under construction and the projects in the pipeline and planning stage . Across major urban centres as the Metro system improves and last mile connectivity gets her n order, public transport will be the centre stage
@@ohboeeboee yes recent movements (in last 5 years in the ground) have given me some hope. This is why I think the govt has realised that we can't turn our country into a parking lot. Also, a lot of people already commute on bicycles in India (huge percentage).. Look up the data and we have been doing it since centuries. So that's not a problem but no one likes to ride on a hot, unsafe and loud road. We had narrow tree lined roads which were used for walking and moving around on bicycles. Trees provided shade, beauty and cooling (through evaporation) which made it not just bearable but enjoyable.
At least you write sense.. Bangalore and all our cities have become unliveable with these damn cards.
German brands should stick to Luxury segment cars they can never compete with Japanese, Korean and Indian brands in affordable segments.
而且他们便宜车型用的DSG变速箱根本不适合在印度拥挤的道路上行驶，频繁的走走停停会导致变速箱过热，两三年就会出现异响。vw车只是在中国农村销量好。
Right.
too bad, their glorious days of ICE are almost over.
Germany is lagging behind in innovation and flexibility.
Germany is just lagging behind in making affordable cars that are easy to maintain. It's not lagging behind in innovation for sure.
Germany is struggling with digitalization but they are still innovative, for example in vw cars people complaining about the infotainment system.
This thing about the German cars and their status value is a myth that rapidly disappears when their reliability issues propp up, and they certainly do have built-in problems which can be serious and very expensive. Soon enough, holes in the pocket will make holes in that status value, too.
Keeping as a pet - the desi dog vs German Shepherd/Doberman/Rottweiler - ofcourse the desi is cheaper.
Anyway rich people going to buy it. They will have 2 or three cars just in case of any malfunction...lol
not rich but people with black money , @@gobimurugesan2411
clearly you have no idea how unreliable germans car are in comparision to japanese ones. I have BMW x 3 its a money pit. I will get lexus rx 350 after returning from india @@amarjittalukdar1967
TATA will topple all brands in future
Joke of the century 😂😂
Yesss TATA can do it! keep watching 💪🏻🔥
@@FictionChannelIN 🤣🤣🤭😆
Tata and Mahindra together
@@Aviator7477cope 😂😂😂 india is better 😂😂😂
As experienced automotive expert from India, working in germany, I can comform two statements in the video. One is "Adapt or you will fail". Second is "Do not transport the technology 1:1 to India. Transform techonology as per the requirement to avoild failure"
@@vsr3777My family has BMW X5, Skoda superb 2021 model and Innova crysta . All are pretty good cars imo.
i own bmw x3 in usa , they use plastics even in engines . its a money burner@@vsr3777
Those are generic statements not insights of an expert.
@@abhijitjacob Thank you for your certification Mr. Dumb
@@abhijitjacob ok Mr. Expert
I own Skoda/Volkswagen Rapid. Excellent car, but I was unfortunate to face the dreaded Mechatronic failiure issue. Authorized service centers were rip off and no expertise available with general mechanics.
Went through many mechanics over period of 6 months had a harrowing time finally got fixed after 6 months.
I would suggest caution while buying German DSG based cars.
Not the first time we've heard of dodgy DSG boxes. How did you finally get the issue fixed?
@@DWREV Mc tried few old Mechatronic boxes. It didn't work as new issues with gear skipping cropped up.
Finally couple of mechanics came together fixed the Sims on Cluthplate and changed clutch fitting with different mechatronic to finally make it work.
This whole process took months.
If Skoda/Volkswagen had provided proper diagnostic tools and cheap spares like indian and Japanese automakers then this would not have taken more than few days.
You know it's always a visual treat to watch the excellent filmography of the DW Rev India team.
Thanks a lot
@@DWREV he was joking😂😂
@@Ganju.ghapghap no. I was not joking. DW rev film team is excellent and i always appreciate their filmography and editing technique.
@@DWREV in e mobility tesla is the future.
@@DWREV german anufacturer have to do a lot more even to catch up...
The increase in consumer spending after Covid is NOT because "people realised there is only 1 life".
Its because of a combination of 2 factors:
1) Increased incomes for some people, and
2) Greater confidence in India's futures growth, which has given Indian consumers the confidence to reduce savings for a an uncertain future.
Western companies can make significant savings and profits by relocating to India but it will take time for them to penetrate the Indian market as people are both cost and quality sensitive and it is quite a challenge to provide both at the same time. Only Indian, Japanese and Korean companies have seen significant success so far.
Kia has taken the plunge. If VW or anybody wants to work in India market, want to make lot of money. Dont come to India. Like KIA invest your money expect low to medium returns, then the cars will suceed and make money.
Dont try to cheat, bring SKD/ CKDs and sell, wont work, india’s eco system has to be included - fly by night operators cannot survive - Ford thought Indians would be awed by the name FORD. Unless the cost and quality is good and has humility of doing business, they will not succeed.
They want luxury at the cost of an Alto.
@@cuckoonut1208so? If you can't handle it, don't come.
@@cuckoonut1208just check out mahindra xuv 700 bro its better than bmw x3
@@cuckoonut1208 It's not true, see the waiting period on XUV 700 and also see the sales of Toyota Fortuner. Mid range cars can be successfull.
We hear the same words today for India that we heard for China 20 years ago.
Where r u frm
@@PHALANGE1931 From the Internet.
As a indian china is ahead from india like 30 years ....
@@user-qt2or7xw4d as a Canadian, I can tell you that India has had free elections, a free press, an independent judiciary system, making it 5 centuries ahead of China
@@robertn2951 You are just indian or nothing... :)
As an Indian, i only prefer Indian cars...i am never going to buy any foreign cars😂
dont worry every country has patriots like you but some are smart enough to understand trade and why it's important.
As an Indian, I will look at quality and cost while buying a car. I don’t care about the brand.
Ambassador cars😂
But love to settle abroad if get a visa😂
You mean Suzuki?
भारत मे बना सामान ही खरिदो केवल और प्राथमिकता भारतीय कंपनी को दो हमेशा टाटा और महिन्द्रा ❤
China: announce it after it's done, or no announcement at all
India: announce it even before starting doing it
DW: I am announcing India is the next China.
Why has DW started making positive videos on india? Sudden change of heart after india about to overtake German economy this year? 😂 will never trust any narrative by foreign media (negative or positive)
You just took my words… I was about to say the same thing but thought will finish the video and then comment. Yes these buggers are suddenly not finding Hindu nationalist with 3000 year old tradition obnoxious😂
their capitalists driven economy will go bankrupt if they don't.
You can trust the narrative by Indian media known world over as Godi media.
@@rufusmonteirome only a congi brings local politics into international topic.
@@ramasarrow2845So true 😂😂😂
DW presenting some positive aspect of India... Are you guys ok...can't imagine a word of positivity from DW. M sure this is an abberation.
Here are some of our other reports on India:
czcams.com/video/YsbN4aPYwUM/video.htmlsi=KiMrdBfn62z27GhC
czcams.com/video/d-ZkHRoY4GM/video.htmlsi=cUYN8EpgPyglYBz-
czcams.com/video/lLmuzNcWg9U/video.htmlsi=JILweoXxByCr2E1q
In a vacuum (world where no one else makes cars) this sounds like the perfect moment for the German manufacturers. But then there are others who make and sell cars. Just compare VW Group's India 2.0 vs Kia's entry into the Indian market - both happened around 2018/2019.
I don't want to go into the details here, I'll let the numbers do the talking.
Respect and admiration for German engineering and quality doesn't convert to sales unfortunately.
plastics is not high quality material for engines . I worked as corporate strategy manager at Cummins so i have somewhat of idea of what mistakes bmw do @@vsr3777
Bad idea going to mass market. Focus on luxe to upper mid premium.leave mass market to Suzuki and Hyundai and local Indian players. Take PLI route and set up capacities for premium to reduce the luxe ticket size (increase that volume pie)
U are a fool, in india mass in upper middle class if they focus on lux the sales will even go low and loses will be higher as there will be less dealership and the customer cost to keep that car will go high
Aka the same strategy that led to their current condition in the Chinese market? 😅
@@crazydrifter13what's wrong with their current codition in Chinese market?
@@umbrellastudio7481 their market share is falling rapidly and in the ev Segment (main segment in near future in China) their state is near the 1 percent mark
20 min long Volkswagen advertisement
Exactly😂
Small car market is still quite a huge market in India as there are more aspirations from a huge huge low income middle class families to own their own car if only the car manufacturers can make a right product for the Indian buyers.
Indians are a MOST thrifty consumer. The unknowing think stingy or cheap, but we take pride in prudent frugality. Your call...
"Owning a german car as a status symbol" .. i have doubts on that 😄. German manufacturers are angry on elon musk on how he got a VIP entry to create a manufacturing plant in gujarat in India. Tesla would be a bigger status symbol in India. Although i do agree that volkswagon has a good client baee here, and provided they adapt, they can compete with tesla as well.
It is status symbol. Let the rich buy these cars and pay high taxes on it.
India needs more Public transport investment.
@@shrin210 Dude transport economy does not grow with rich people buying luxury cars 😆.
@@angshukNag
I said taxes on luxury cars will increase Govt revenue, so let the rich buy it.
Also, we do not need to grow in the transport economy by Cars. Goods transport and logistics will improve Indian economy and efficiency and it depends on trucks and trains.
@@shrin210Govt revenue won't increase by any significant extent given that most rich people evade taxes. It is the middle class which drives the gdp per capita.
@@angshukNag I know it's insignificant. That's why I don't care what rich people do. If they want to buy let them buy it.
I'd prefer the middle class to use public transport and not buy cars bcoz it's inefficient and waste.
Buying a car is not an issue in India. City Roads, Parking Driving style, all these things one has to think before buying. Buying a 25 lakh car and keep it on Roadside during night time is an issue which one cannot solve.
No safety？
You don't live in India you know nothing.. india is 1000x times better in safety than the west.
I have 3 cars in which two of them are Germans and one is Indian which are polo,M2 and tata safari varicor 400 , safari is known for its higher maintenance and unreliability
But I have paid more for my polo than my safari in terms of maintenance and problem with brands like bmw are their low service center availablity like the nearest bmw service centre is around 300km away from my home
There are so many check boxes to be successful in India. Fuel efficiency is number one followed by service knowledge by roadside mechanics. Heavy computerization, rugged design, worlds best four wheel transmission etc of Audi will be linked by all Indians but only few can afford it.
Bought 20 lakh worth of Samvardhan Motherson stocks instead of buying a costly car. It provides parts to all car manufacturers. Bound to give great returns in the next 5 -10 years. Instead of investing in a single car brand, it is better to invest in ancillary providers that sell to all car brands.
Car is a different emotion altogether
Just because the population is huge does not mean next china ...Many things are there to be considered .
The whole video is focus towards European car makers and indian giant maruti Suzuki, you really miss how tata is changing the game of automotive industry with its push toward quality affordability,and mass appealing cars and suv's.
Leats see how vw and Mahindra partnership works in bringing affordable ev to indian market.
Thanks for your feedback. You've rightly pointed out Tata Motors' significant role in shaping the automotive landscape in India, particularly with their focus on quality, affordability, and mass-appeal vehicles. Tata's innovative approach and commitment to meeting the diverse needs of Indian consumers have indeed been transformative.
Tata quality.?? 😂😂
@@rahulkrish9840You're not living in the present? Tata cars are rated 5 star for security and are right now the biggest players in the EV market of India.
India’s car industry is unique, you can’t just sell the same cars in India, they need to make amendments to them. You have to make them super cheap and you have to make them adapt to poor road conditions, this is why SUVs are more suitable, unless the Indian government is willing to spend major amounts of money improving the road infrastructure like what China did.
India is already spending $1.7trillion in infrastructure development for the next 7years
Honestly, you re living in past.
Road quality index out of 7 (is best) Austria , Japan - 6/7
China 4.6/7
India 4.5/7
UK - 4.9/7
German - 5.3/7
Italy, Ireland, Belgium - 4.4/7 🎉
India has the largestt road network in the world after US
@@Stranger-jx4qdincluding country dirt road.
@@Edward4Plantagenetwhere does the info come from? Indian government? 🤣
As a middle class Indian I dont see any progress atleast in terms of automobiles. All I see is the poor buying cars on credit even if they don't have a concrete shelter and the rich buying 2x luxury cars as if there is no tomorrow. The middle class is still stuck with pseudo-premium cars with an aspiration of upgrading some day. But that day never comes due to inflation! Bottom-line, the taxes that the middle class pays goes for distributing freebees to the poor and the rich anyways don't pay taxes. If this continues the day is not far where we will have to adopt the Singapore model.
100% agree with you, can you please elaborate the Singapore model?
@@vsr3777 Rich Not paying taxes is factually correct. They get enough rebates, low-interest credits, and ample opportunity to claim their personal expenses and losses as 'Business.' All these don't fall under tax evasion and never will. Whatever frauds you are talking about is over and above this!
@@pranitcool Heavy taxes. Driving Licence bidding process. Compulsory parking fees. Everything that can discourage someone from buying a car
We actually did a report fairly recently on the shockingly high cost of driving in Singapore. You can check it out here: czcams.com/video/RpCyvIkB4PI/video.htmlsi=ibWeVDwrDRjDyDm_
So basically the same in every “western” country, so why it matters when talking about selling cars? I don’t see the logic behind your statement.
Do you think the general population in the usa and Europe have money 😂,its all paid with car loans or parents money
Improper and disproportionately high taxes on cars in India is one of the biggest huddles for car manufacturers in India.
Indian Government has to reduce taxes on cars only then Indian Car Industry can unleash its true potential and foster value creation. Taxes on cars in India is among the highest in the world (even for the cars made in India too). Otherwise Indian car market has immense scope and huge potential whether its growing incomes, increasing manufacturing ecosystem and increasing aspiration for premium cars .
Government also need income. If it finds a new source of income or if the volume increases from older sources then it will lower the taxes without saying.
True that, too high taxes.
I am planning to buy a vehicle this year with a budget around 30-35 lakhs.. but over the years, hearing about the horrendous after sales service by VW and Skoda, I have decided to steer away from them. German cars are fanstastic machines until the day they need any repair.
Is cost of spares something you've factored into your purchase decision too?
Get a XUV 700 or a tata safari
@@DWREV yes. The cost of spares is one of the factors. The bigger issue is even though the costs may be high, the results are abysmal.
Germany Car get double profit 😂
🗿there is nothing better than tata in safety and quality,,
Well, given the NCAP ratings for the Punch, Harrier and Safari, it's hard to argue with you!
india's car tariff is one of teh highest in the world
I would like tata because of trust.
As an Indian i prefer Indian cars Japanese cars and American car brands like Tesla ( Tesla is yet to launch a car in India) German car brands will be a thing of the past very soon German cars are boring, lacking innovation and outdated
Respect to your opinion but the liking towards the germans is also growing specially for vw and skoda as the enthusiast community grows in india.
The writing is on the wall - the future of electric vehicles belongs to innovative players like BYD with their LFP blade batteries boasting a 500,000 km warranty, and Tesla, leading the charge with autopilot advancements. While German brands still hold an edge in high-performance ICE cars, the clock is ticking on their traditional strengths.
Are you serious? German cars are the most prestigious vehicles in history of cars. No car manufacturer can build a car like Mercedes, BMW, AUDI & Porsche. You cannot afford these car brands that’s why you’re saying this.
@@TheUndertaker2408lol dieselgate and you say prestigious
@@Axrx277 The EV market is stagnating in countries like the US! Soon Europe too will follow the same trajectory. The EV market simply can't survive without government credits, without which they are simply too expensive for average buyers.
It's funny how it is suggested that German manufacturers will try to position themselves as EV market leaders. While German IC cars are really exceptional, in EV worldwide they are yet make any significant mark... So without an existing significant product lineup how will they try to position themselves as leader in segment.
Secondly apart from very few VW hatch backs most of the German IC cars only are well beyond what is the most popular price range in India (around 10-15 lack INR maybe will stretch till 20 lack by coming 2-3 years, inflation adjusted). Any dedicated EV or a conversion of an existing IC model to an EV will be a lot costlier than the equivalent IC model. So do not see that German manufacturers are going to be able to field any reasonable mass market EV in India.
Also feature deprived and/or small cars are gradually becoming out of trend in India. So no chance of cost cutting there.
Well the fact of matter is, that unlike emission norms which keep rolling around every few years, ev’s don’t need them
And a recurring investment into engine and exhaust tech every few years is worse than one time investment in good EV platform that can be used for at least a decade
Even rn, euro7 in Europe is a hanging guillotine over lot of ice car models unless they become hybrids in next gen
With the volumes VWAG has in India, an investment into hybrid doesn’t make sense as it has dual complexity of ice and electric powertrain - and looking at reliability of Germans in Indian conditions, I’d be hard pressed to go for a German hybrid at a time when people avoid much simpler and time tested German ice cars
Secondly, ev’s are simpler and cheaper to build and if the rumours are to be believed, VWAG is in talks with mahindra (read via team bhp)
Such a partnership could be very useful as it would share the investment burden
Thanks for watching our video and for your well-reasoned comments! While there are challenges for German manufacturers in the Indian market, the transition to electric mobility and evolving consumer preferences so present opportunities for innovation and growth. And as technology advances and economies of scale are achieved, the cost of EVs is expected to become more competitive. Partnerships, local manufacturing and government incentives could also play a role in making EVs more accessible to a broader audience in India.
Right on. I think tesla, if they bring out cheaper alternative, they will rule the markets.
I dont think german autocars can make it here. Future is different.
American and French car makers don't understand India. They think we don't spend money. We do spend money, but we want what we want for that money.
We want efficiency, ease, comfort and safety and we are willing to spend on it.
While american companies keep moving out, Indian companies, Korean and Japanese have swooped in.
And they are thriving.
Hell even the very late entering MG and Kia are also thriving.
Now Renault and Citroën... Totally underestimated the market. They thought we want 'cheap' cars, so they strapped down their European models and launch that in India. All of them failed.
The companies which have adapted and made cars suitable for Indians are thriving. Totyota's Innova and Fortuner have a waiting period of 1 year.
Suzuki and Hyundai and Kia are absolutely killing it.
Renault and Citroën are having tough luck. They continually read the market wrong. Give features which nobody wants. And remove features which were non compromisable for the customer.
People in India are willing to pay premium price for premium product. They think they can launch a bare bone premium brand at entry level prices and they will succeed.
That brand shopping works in the west. In India whatever car you launch people go to buy it with a big check list. They will increase their price if you have a good model. Else they won't pay a penny to you.
Ford was too impatient and stubborn .
Honda again was too stubborn.
'we will make what we make. You buy'. Both these companies are doing very poorly in India.
Had Ford stayed in India for a little longer, it would have ruled the market. But tough luck.
What's your take on the news that Ford is likely to re-enter the Indian market in 2025? They've scrapped plans to sell their Chennai plant, are actively hiring, and have filed a patent for the design of the current-gen Endeavour in the country. Do you reckon they will have a chance now?
Is there hope of a fully Indian owned ev startup ? It might b the best Indian outcome going forward, if china ( byd, nio, etc) did it, so can India and the rest of the developing world
tata is doing well in this space, mahindra mediocre
Have you heard of tata. Google indian ev startups and you will find quite a few. When we have the market, our homegrown companies will follow and multiple. Exciting times ahead for indian car manufacturing scene.
@@vsr3777we dont want chinese tech. You can keep it and keep out. 😊
@@isacr4063You Indian ptt are doing very well, but producing things that only Indians can use, electric car technology, India is at least 30 years behind China.😂
@@vsr3777 their? You are chinese or one of the their stooges. Stop advertising chinese stuff. We told you we are not interested.
Thanks for sharing.
8:49 why is the rear seat important in India?
Cuz most of the Indian buyers are buying for family use.. 2 seater or 4 seater with unusable backseat will not sell.. eg mg comet..
Germany makes the best cars, i own a vw polo and love it😊
The DSG gearbox used in the cheaper models of Volkswagen is industrial junk and is not suitable for driving on crowded roads in India. Frequent running and stopping can cause the gearbox to overheat and produce abnormal noises within two to three years. The DSG gearbox is very prone to water ingress on rainy days. VW cars only sell well in rural China and their domestic market. If Volkswagen Germany wants to sell cheap cars for around $20000 in India, their transmissions will have to rely on imports from Japan and South Korea. Except for the rural market in northern China, German cars cannot compete with Japanese and Korean cars in Asia.
The engine consumes lubricating oil is characteristic of German cars. The difference in quality stability between German cars and Japanese cars is too great, which is why German cars can only succeed in the Chinese market where brands blindly worship and have strong tolerance for shortcomings just for logo. Now in the rural areas of northern China, we are also abandoning German cars, and the new generation is more pragmatic. Most of the new cars on the road are domestic Chinese and Japanese brands. German cars are becoming fewer and fewer.
The advantages of German cars over Japanese and Korean cars are chassis tuning and directional control. But ordinary family cars are driven on paved roads, and people are more concerned about quality stability and low maintenance costs.
Good thing ev’s don’t have gearboxes
Korean cars are almost extinct in China's market. lol
Quality Japanese cars. A Homda city is a tin can here in India.
See all the E-Rickshaws wriggling around in tier 2 and tier 3 cities, the e-rickshaws are chinese tech, the company that can replace that will make a fortune. Indians need ultra-cheap, tiny cars much alike Kei cars. The sentiment is same as that of 1950s Japan, switching people from two wheelers to 4 wheelers. It has happened before, my grandfather rode a bicycle, my father a bike, and I a car, so a change is bound to happen, the trick is to predict the correct time. Tata made a pre mature move with Nano, but it'll happen for sure.
I don't think that E-rikshaw have foreign incorporated any single element in it. India is a big country such type of country is even not capable to build a Electric riksha in 2023&2024? If it is true so this is very very shameful for India.😭👎
Not chinese. Stop peddling shoddy chinese ware.
बसडक झूट मत बोल ई-रिक्शा पुरी तरह से भारत निर्मित है
@@Sanatani_kattar पाषंडी असभ्य धर्मांध व्यापारी चला जा, अनपढ़ कही का
😂😂😂😂
Does the editor forgot to add some slums of mumbai clips?
First time I understood what a sedan really is when I sat on a ola cab of audi a4, Indians don't understand difference between DCT and AMT, bhp and torque, and these are the features german cars offer. They need better marketing as people have no problem buying things on emi. Just look at iphones these days.
Would you buy a German car in the future?
Just came from a trip in India. Saw that almost 5-10 year old cars are Suzuki's, Hyundai's, Tata's and Toyota's. All newer cars in cities like Delhi and Jaipur, however, seem to be from Tata and the Chinese brand BYD. I only saw a handful of European cars - of which one (Jaguar E-Pace) was on fire. The reason, according to my tour leader: you can't get any components for such rare cars in India.
You forget Mahindra cars 😅😊
BYD, really?
There's no BYD in India. You are lying.
@@jazzyjazzy903byd 2008 ha bhai India ma
@@jazzyjazzy903 half the electric city busses are BYD and there’s decent number of atto3 and e6 for being a 35L car
An old lady deeply entangled with a promising young man is fervently attempting to convince both others and herself that she still has better options
I like how your perception changes when it's about the German manufacturers foothold in the Indian market you have shown the urban India without the cows ,the villagers and the people hating Muslims
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India is only india we dont competition to anyone we proud of our country we only said that india is best 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳 thank you
what a rubbish
Good and informative documentary. Many Indian and foreign companies are producing good quality cars in India. German companies need to find the balance between quality and price to cater to indian market segments. Local manufacturing ( like VW-Taigun SUV) and collaborations is the key for sucess.
Glad you like it! Please pass it on to your friends. As you point out, local manufacturing and fostering collaborations with local partners, as well as finding the right balance between quality and price, will be essential in order to to succeed in the competitive Indian market.
But I hope Europeans will do way better than ever. They're innovative powerful and luxurious.
Their young generation is rotten. So no chance😅
Yeah young generation is still bike centric. Only someone like me is interested in these cars.
they are innovative in luxury items but lack in tech, software and hardware, and semiconductor chips.
Semiconductor shortage is ended so most of them are solved.
I also contribute in this boom... I bought 4 cars in last 3 years. 😮😅
the market in India is closer to Brazilian market, where small basic models lead the sales. If Maruti-Suzuki opened a production in Brazil, they would sell a lot there.
If India can become China 🇨🇳 😅. Then i can become Elon musk. Sri Lanka will next sigapore too. Bhutan next Taiwan 😂😂😂. What a funking joke😂😂😂.
India will never follow any other nation... India will be India..
Jai Ho
in 2013 India was 10 th biggest economy of the world, after 9 years we became 5th biggest economy, in 2027- 2028 we are going to become 3rd biggest economy...
Cry baby cry😂😂😂
Italy is also a big economic but majority of population is poorer than central and nordic countries, high skilled workers emigrate ,so that doesn’t mean much 😂
We Bharatiya is not the new China , We Bharatiya is New Bharatiya ( New Bharat )😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
And the roads are being built at the same rate?
I am regular viewer of your channel. Please make a video on Indian multiplex chane 🙏🙏🙏
Tata and Mahindra
Nice video! I really like cars.
Glad you liked it! Pass it on to your friends.
Europe and America is declining ।
And We The Bharatiya is Growing next 100 Years😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Calm down. Pride goes before a fall😅
INDIA NO.1
China is completely incomparable.
Congratulations to India.🤓
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if VW India able to pull off another Polo moment they have strong seat confirmed which is better than firm
Even if they make the best car there is, Indians care about after-sales service as well as resale value, which german cars don't have. It's a deadlock for them.
Adapt or disappear is true for Indian market. As a Ford car owner for last 8+ years, my experience has been nothing short of great. My first car (Figo) & the car I use now (Ecosport) are very reliable. The maintenance cost has been same as Maruti Suzuki. But Ford made a big mistake of not adapting to Indian consumer's needs & had to exit. I have a couple of friends who bought used Ecosport last year. Endeavour still fetches a high price in resale market. Shows that people are still interested in the brand. But it was Ford's inability to adapt to the market need which cost them their place in India. Very sad!
Since you're something of a Ford fan, there is good news. Ford is very likely to make a comeback to the Indian market, potentially with the Endeavour. They've filed a patent for the Endeavour in India, and the Chennai plant is no longer for sale, plus they seem to be hiring people at their factory. One can only hope that they've learned from their past mistakes, and that they're willing to adapt. They came so close with the EcoSport!
ford is also unreliable , in usa top tier is terms of reliability is by toyota and other japanese and korean brands , then german cars , bottom most is american cars . american giants are now shifting focus to small trucks or medium trucks like f150
If Fords are reliable and people like them, I didn't understand in what sense the company didn't adapt to the market needs.
@@Mpl3564 Indian customers like feature loaded cars. Ford was always behind the other companies when it comes to that aspect. Moreover, Ford carsl launched in 2000s had reputation of being unreliable and service cost used to be high. It was too late when they made improvements. They did not market their new cars properly like Tata did in recent years.
You seem to forget a very interesting German car brand. Smart cars should be a surprisingly good fit for the traditional Indian preference for light compact vehicles. For Two/ For Four, some sort of Pick-up/Ute and a SUV based on the platform could do quite well, if assembled locally. Brabus versions can give the brand the edge needed to stand out.
I think you forgot to show Dharavi slums this time im disappointed 😅
India can not be like China only in dream because ihe culture and mentality
Indian cars:- less price, good quality, first choice
German cars :- expensive, very good quality, comfortable , second choice
Japanese cars :- reliable, good service, good features, third choice
Korean cars :- little expensive , good quality, good tech, good comfort, 4th choice
American car :- better quality, expensive, powerful engine, reliable. But not worth money
Chinese car :- cheap quality, low reliability ,cheap safety, more tech features, no choice
You think Indian Car is universal top level.
This is just your point.
But why I couldn't find indian cars in major countries😢.
Because Indian car only export to the third nations.
Not in Europe, American, Asia Pacific.
Indian vehicle industry still far behind in the world 🌎
@@richmond206Mahindra sale their cars on nz , Australia , Britain and Italy and they're also owner of pinfarnia tata is owner of rang rover and jaguar land rover.
I had Opel, Skoda and Having one German Luxury Car..
Germen are very Good in engineering and performance no question about it but it's expensive to maintain..
Just look around, you will find 10-15 years old Maruti, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai and still running but Audi, Merc, Skoda, VW etc are disappear.. Yes I know there sell is less but even though they are not easy to maintain if you like to keep it for years..
Other end, in India car is not just a need, it's a status also VW or Skoda don't have road presence.. I know it's not comparable but Mahindra Thar, Scorpion N, 700, Tata Safari, etc gives you road presence as well as value for money..
In India fuel economy also Important, a person who buys mercedes also ask for milage of the car and this is the reason EV/CNG is getting famous here..
Also like the new Skoda VW SUV but trust me Indian will buy big size SUV like Scorpio N or Tata Harrier at the price of skoda just because of Road presence of value for money.. And we can see the sale number..
Correct me if I am wrong
India already has its local car manufacturer in Mahindra or Tata, and if that's not enough then indians also prefer Japanese companies highly. Tesla may have a chance to access a large market if they play their cards right but I don't think German companies have much scope in India.
India is poor country we still travel on top of 🚂🚂🚂 train roofs( like German media showed in cartoon few months back)so there is no need for german car company to come to India...
We have friendly countries like Japan, France and Russia and a little but tricky but useful partners like US and UK with us. No need of the Nazis like you. Thanks
Yep,if we need cars,we can get them from our local manufacturers,
The great german cars will not be needed 😅
@@leonelson8834What a weird and dumb comment. How old are you, six?
german brands are old and no good when tata and mahindra can give u a better deal
@@pradhyudhGerman cars are expensive to repair. Not good for Indian roads.
china's BYD is # 1 EV in the car market to be # 1 on planet.
nobody wants that in india, as its imported with 200% tax.
Any automobile company who wants to enter in India, Keep Indian terrains in your mind. I don't think German cars like Skoda or BMW can handle all kinds of Indian terrain.
The new Germany is next Venezuela.
We are not the next China, We are the next India !!!
It’s too dangerous to invest in India. You can’t take the money you earn out.
Then live in india😊
Rupee is as always going down to US Dollar making it difficult for Ford to sell cars
Japanese Suzuki is known for Mileage; Korean Kia and Hyundai are known for Features and Indian Mahindra and Tata are known for safety. Indian consumers will any day prioritize Mileage, feature or safety over the German performance cars which are very expensive.
GOOD FOR YOU
Economic boom will come in 2027 in India... It's a right time for everyone to boost manufacturing in their field
I owm a maruti suzuki and I do want to upgrade to VW or Skoda but the problem is the service and parts cost of these german manufactures in india.... compared to Japanese,Indian, Korean manufacturers VW, Skoda maintananace cost is very higher.... Every Indians do like and they are really fascinated about skoda and VW but more than reliability and service centre availability, only thing stopping them from buying these german cars is maintenance cost
Skoda isn’t German.
@@Robbert_nl directly that's right because it's a czech manufacturer but it's currently owned by VW and all the parts and engineering done by the parent company which is german... even if you disassemble a skoda you can find so many vw or audi parts.... so indirectly that makes skoda a german...
@@Robbert_nlexcept brand name, everything thing about skoda is german which makes it unreliable 😉
@@vishal9676 Putting that emoji there doesn’t make it more true or less dumb. In the developed world Skoda is known for its reliability.
@@Robbert_nlin the developed world, people might drive unreliable and unsophisticated cars, not in developing countries.
India..!! The next shining star..!🌟
I see a lot of VW Taiguns on Indian 🇮🇳 roads nowadays. But, Maruti, Hyundai (South Korea), and Tata still reign supreme with - all offering high-end products that caters to the Indian audience or consumers far better! 🇮🇳
There is nothing to be proud of This as an Indian iam very sad to see none of the "BIG" auto giants considering even low level of safety standards while manufacturing and selling inside India.Almost 99% affordable cars by average salary getting Indians are zero rating standard of safety only.Not only in Auto sector in each and evry sector Indians are only considered as a buyer and India is a market only and always they are poured with substandard low quality products only.
The same is the case in Brazil for example. Obviously cars would cost even more when they would have higher standards, but it’s not like they’re that cheap at the moment. I hope India will get safer cars soon.
That’s because you guys are overall poorer so you have lower purchasing power, if you compare a eu car to the same model in South America is a death trap like eu cars 20+ years ago, simple economics
Here is the advice for German car makers- make a EV with 8k euros, with a descent range and low maintenance. This would be the best/selling car in India, and perhaps many other countries too.
I'm following the German EV market and can speak German. They're struggling to launch
And then make a flying car that works as a submarine too and produces gold in the glove compartment, for 5k euros please.
Your mocking of customer preference is outstanding. I think this is the very reason German cars don't sell
@@sreeks576 I’m just mocking you. Your wishes have nothing to do with reality. Not even Indian or Chinese cars could do this, and those are the bottom of the automotive food chain.
@Robbert_nl continue with your mocking. We indians will have the last laugh and you Germans will not get any share of this market. It will certainly be a lost opportunity
I am surprised the video makes no mention of two wheelers. Nearly 30 million are sold in India today. And there is definitely a large market for performance bikes. Clever financing and localization will also be key in a country which will remain quite poor in dollar terms, but approach middle income in PPP.
Korean and Japanese car brands understand Indian market very well which German and American car brands failed to understand
Tata Mahindra 👍
With 2700$ GDP per Capita, India will not be another China within 20 years or more
Incomes are highly skewed, major cities have people earning as high as $5k/m. Although, they're low in terms of percentage, still a sizable portion of the overall population which is where these companies will make their money.
GDP per capita and income are 2 different things. China's higher GDP is mostly due to the debt-fuelled spending on massive (unutilized and underutilized) infrastructure building spree since 2008!
1. That’s not PPP
2. Avg is not a good measure of central tendency
3. Try using median instead
If they are like in my country they are tax evasion experts, also wait until they get hooked on monthly payments,credit cars,car loans ect , although I agree that Indian will not be another china they don’t have what it takes imo, Vietnam seems have better options for manufacturing than India, for cars I think there’s a lot of potential,scammers be scamming at least im not from anglophone country and the ones we have don’t seem to know how to speak our language and people say they are bad drivers
Germany globally have one problem , high maintenance, costly parts and can be repaired only by there skilled mostly service men, on the hand German car are more safe and secure . also while localization some of quality and features gets downgraded which results in brand image issues
Cost of German cars are very high.. And maintenance is also very high.. Plus they have less R&D in Indian roads..
I'm not sure why the western media is so keen to present India in the same light as certain Bollywood productions. It's really very cringeworthy and foolish; a few years ago, it was the slums, and now it's Holi and the dance! What precisely is wrong with you all? When you depict Germany, do you only include refugee camps and streets replete with brothels, human waste, and mosques? Why not carry out that action?
This was filmed by Indians themselves, you should examine yourselves instead of blaming others for how they view you.
This was some what good when comparing all the previous videos we used to get
India should know that when it stops chinese companese in India then it is also loosing the largest consumer market in the world china.
Access to China's market is a mirage. China is an expert at making non-tariff barriers for restricting external entities from its market. The case in point is the impossible barriers for Indian pharma to China's market.
@@jarjarbinks3193 Indian pharma imports most of the raw materials from China. So I think Chinese are good at pharma so may not require that from India.
I believe India can export tons of agricultural products to China just like what Australia, Russia and US is doing.
China will buy what is shortage there not what they excel in.
Are u living in LALA land or what ? Accessing Chinese market is not simple so many restrictions by CCP 😂😂😂😂.
@@thegreatindia3677 There is no restriction at all. Have you seen any major company that donot have market or factories in china. Wake up, what ur media telling u is abs false. Just find out how much indian products go to china? Wake up man
@@DineshTwanabasu How come Indian generic pharma is being sold in the US, but NOT in China!? This is because China is an expert at putting non-tariff barriers to restrict any product it deems as a threat. It is the same way they restrict companies like Google and Facebook.
What is with the obsession of the West to show only the older part of Delhi, i.e. Chandni Chowk or Chawri Bazaar whenever they want to portray India as a country of 1.4 billion people?
Like in this video, they showed the general chaos of Chandni Chowk while telling us that India is a land of so many billion people.
When do they ever show India gate or Qutub Minar when talking of Delhi or India?
Good that Indian car manufacturers have begun to innovate and giving Indian customers their money's worth.
I hope the West wakes up and realize that the world doesn't revolve around them. There are people who are improving and giving them the fiercest competition, be it in developing Knowledge Economy or investing in Research and Development.
In a country with low per capita income, people have to do nothing with drive quality, comfort and safety. All that matter is some good mileage in cheap price. Maruti sells the most number of cars in the country with build quality like a tin can speaks it all. Germans and European auto makers need to lower their standards in order to succeed in the current scenarios of India.