WTF Happened to the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio?
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- čas přidán 1. 04. 2023
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Alfa Romeo has a soft spot in my heart. One of the reasons is the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrigfoglio - an absolute monster twin turbocharged V6 sport sedan that feels pure bred Italian. So why don't we see more of these? Let's talk about it.
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Hello, I agree. A dream car. It’s just expensive , as far as taxes are concerned… here in Italy, at least.
FYI: The F154 V6 engine is derived from the "California T" Bi-Turbo V8, meaning the Ferrari engine already had Turbos on them, contrary to the "California" N/A V8. So Giulia's engine got 2 cylinders removed and 2 different Turbos. Also back when Giulia was developed Ferrari was still part of Fiat, hence the strong Ferrari DNA and a bit of 458 magic in this car!
You know, Jeremy Clarkson once said that you aren’t a true petrolhead until you’ve owned an Alfa Romeo. It’s a shame that they don’t get the recognition they deserve in the states
I'd say you need to add forced induction to an already potent N/A car....
@@Blas4ublasphemy it's a V6 turbo, 2.9L twin turbo V6 making like 505HP.
The SUV version also in Quadifoglio spec, has the same engine. Though I believe it's AWD.
@@downlowsyndrome3163 Yes, I was responding to Jeremy Clarkson's quote about when you've become a true pertolhead. My personal love/hate experiences with Turbo LS engines in my F-Body provided the inspiration.
Because you saw these cars more in the shop then in your garage. They aren't reliable.
Well they don't get the recognition because they're terribly unreliable
I bought the 2.0T Giulia due to having a baby on the way. It’s still an incredible experience. For every other Giulia I see, I see like fifty 3 series, so I like the uniqueness of it.
Me too.
Yes, very rare sightings. I have a 2017 Cadillac ATS-V. And the same, I haven’t seen another in say a 50 mile radius of where I live. Even still if I go into Orlando I’ve only seen 1 other. But I’ve seen like 100 M3’s and Mustang GT’s.
How has the maintenance been? Id like to get a Stelvio with the 2.0t
@@looper451 the only problem I’ve had was the tire pressure censors. Twice went out. Once showing 1 tire low and it wasn’t. They flashed it and still bad reading. So replaced. And the other were 2 at the same time. Ended up replaced. All under warranty though. Twin turbo oil changes are more expensive though. And at 25k I had to get new tires. I only have 30k on it now. So I would say maintenance isn’t bad at all. Oh one more thing though, have to buy premium gas due to the turbos. But it’s fantastic fun. Every time I push the pedal down I get goose bumps.
Hey bud, I thought you were responding to me. I didn’t notice till now it wasn’t at me. But hey there it is. Lol.
@@bobboy5508 Appreciate the response. Ive owned turbocharged cars before so lm very familiar with the maintenance of ownership. And l work in automotive so l usually do my own fluids. TPMS (tire pressure sensors) can be a total rip off imo. My friend owns a new Vw Golf and had all 4 of hers go out twice in a year. I used to own a Mazdaspeed3 and when my TPMS went out on that car l just didn’t bother to replace them. They are so bloody expensive, and a manual tire pressure gauge is about $2 so l just use that
Went from an M340 to a Quad and it’s 5x the car in every conceivable manner. And in 40k miles I’ve done basic maintenance, nothing creaks or rattles and it sounds/looks insane. I thought I was making an extremely risky purchase but so far it’s been terrific.
Same experience, we test drove all the competition, and the Alfa won hands down. Also never had a problem at all. My wife and I are big fans now.
awesome for you , seems like 75 percent of alfa purchases dont go well . nice to hear someone say they are reliable
On my 3rd alfa this is my first quad I have the stelvio I would never choose another car brand alfa for life 🍀 ☘️
@@bigbodykarate6403lol the old nutshell that all Italian cars are rubbish quote,it gets boring after a while my friend, maybe if you drove something with a bit of soul you might change your opinion,but I'm not holding my breath
@@bigbodykarate6403 What happens after 50k miles however, might put me in that 75% so im gonna part ways with her soon.
7 : 32 on the Nurburgring with 4 doors is insane. That doesn’t only beat its competitors like the M4, C63, S5, etc… but when it came out it also beat the Turbo S and Carrera S on that track… WITH 4 doors 😭
It is faster than Audi R8 too,that is crazy...
The Ring time was done with a stripped car (way less weight) and semi-slicks. You can't compare it at all. The Quad is a great car to drive also imho. But on a track it lost to the F80. The G80 is seconds faster on any track over 4 km. Also it was speculated the car had a tuned engine. So yes the Quad is a great car to drive and no it will not beat a M3 (G80) on any track. Carrera S laps 7:25 and the Turbo S 7:17. Totally different league.
@@peterhammer6915 Well that is a lie. It was done with a stock Quadrifoglio. Why even make that shit up mate?? Have you even bothered to watch the video or read the articles reporting it?? It also used the Pzero AR Corsa designed specifically for the car, which are pretty useless outside of the track and wear down in no time at all. And stating cars that came after it being faster, especially sports cars ..well wtf!! Yeah the BMW M3 is faster, but it took a while for BMW to catch back up didn't it(what was it 5yrs??) and it was Alfa's first try back into the market. And let's also point out the G80 isn't nearly as fun to drive as the Alfa and doesn't look as nice with its ugly pig nose.
The only thing Alfa did to cheat was have a driver with the biggest balls in the world track the car that day!!
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@@ar-am1976 😂😂. Everything I said was true. The Quad has lost to F80 on every trackbattle. I think that kind of explains everything. Also the G80 is miles faster than F80
@@peterhammer6915 you're just a typical BMW fanboy. I've tracked against the f80 and even when my Quadrifoglio was stock it kicked the shit out of them. Not one publication that isn't BMW backed said the F80 was it's equal.
Christ the BMW F80 M3 CS ran a 7:38 Nurburgring lap time.
I'm a former BMW employee too! Worked for them for 6yrs and then went to Porsche. Have worked for Aston and Maserati, also Bentley. I loved my BMW E90 M3 and my E60 M5, but what I didnt enjoy were all the issues they had! My E60 motor blew....still would buy another one if I could fit a dry sump system and upgrade the crank and rod bearings.
Even the regular Giulias are awesome. Got to drive one when working at a dealership. Now I want one.
I owned a Rosso red Giulia QV. When it did run it was a great experience. It’s ridiculously expensive to fix even compared to an Audi or BMW.
@@RadDadisRad bro owned a red red giula 😂, wish I can get a qv one day
@@Lucky_MiTo. the paint color was called rosso red, they also had a Bordeaux metallic. Mine was new dealer stock. I didn’t order it.
@@RadDadisRad is it really? That might just be an American thing since the colors I know are rosso alfa and rosso competizione, rosso red sounds strange since rosso means red
Aside from the power train they are excellent cars, handling like a go kart, nice technology but the 4 cyl and laggy throttle response even in dynamic mode leave something to be desired.
Fun fact, you could buy a Giulia QV with a manual transmission in Europe until 2018
i got one. it’s sick
😮 one of these in manual would be amazing
Iirc you could gte one in the states until 2020
@@blaisesingleton9327 never heard this
@@blaisesingleton9327never available as a manual in the states.
I’ve never been big on Alfa but I do like how the gulia looks. I didn’t know how nice this interior was, holy crap. Maybe I’ve slept on Alfa
Not as nice as BMW or Mercedes even the Jag but its minimalist spartan type
@@klimankhmeron7636 my father owns an f type and my mom just got a brand new 2023 x3 m40i, honestly I think this interior holds up nicely compared to the two. At least with the looks of it, maybe the actual durability of it may be another question but I’ve never personally been in an Alfa. I love how they look though!!
@@plasticcontainer2241 Its more reliable than those. They have a whole new modernized production line.
@@joevelte4252 They're all pretty equally garbage.
All Italian cars have a soul and passion that's what makes them special, much better than driving round in a euro box that everyone else has that are so boring
I've owned multiple cars, and many Alfas. I currently own a 2019 Giulia QV. People who don't get Alfas, don't like driving. They want to sit at a Cars and Coffee and look and be seen. BTW my Alfa has been all over the country, from Maine to Miami, and never had a problem. See you at the Alfa Owners Club national meeting in Charlotte in June.
how many miles have you put on the car?
My wife has an AWD Giulia, she will be upgrading to the Quadrifoglio soon. We have loved the car, never had a single issue. And it has completley grown on us that, besides upgrading, our next car after that will also be an Alfa.
And that’s the thing. “Never had a single issue.” More people need to hear that because people throw shade on Alfa’s reliability all the time. It’s like the internet warrior’s pastime. That’s hurting Alfa’s sales a lot.
Damn that's a cool ass wife! Where do you find em like that hahahahah
@@stuffhappens5681 What do you expect from americans Toyota kid boys?
They will never change Idea about italian cars, they just love our food
@@mrfrancy0154 - I’m American, three Ducati’s and an Alfa GTV6 and probably buy a Ferrari at some point. Love Italy. People, art, vehicles, and yes, the food. Italy rocks. I’m a little sad over the massive infiltration of Chinese though.
Same here. +60k on my giulia. Not a single issue ever. Just regular maintenance and tires and brakes.... because I drive a bit hard on her...
I have the TI model with the 2.0 and love it. Doesn’t have all the power of the QV but still has all the handling. I love that they’re slept on, people don’t know what they’re missing out on
Dude, those drives soooooooo good. I love them.
A simple tune on the 2.0 and you have well over 300hp, which is pretty good
@@CarsByVincent yep and a few guys out there have upgraded turbos making around 400hp.
@@Casey_J96 Those engines seem to be pretty capable, not insanenly, but pretty good
@@CarsByVincent Their good forsure.
I've had 2 Quadrifoglio's both a Giulia QV and now a Stelvio QV. The performance is very exhilarating. I traded a 21 Macan GTS because I wanted something faster.
And that sound
Downgrade
The Giuliq QF is a great car. I got one on turo, and I was REALLY impressed. And I have a friend that owns the SUV version that's also a QF, and she loves it.
What city?
Q, not QF. And if 2 letters, it would at least be QV.
@@rakerholm Quadrifoglio=QV.
@@a.quintero8373 yes but no. QV is and abbreviation for Quadrifoglio Verde or green cloverleaf. Each letter refers to its own word. And as such, QF is nothing, but Q is. And QV is both of the old words. Although Giulia only use the first, even if it has the green cloverleaf markings.
@@rakerholmThat is completely true. Alfa community usually goes with QV for Quadrifoglio's though. Q is usually asking if its a Q4 or Q2
I rented a Giulia on Turo when I went to Cali last year and I must say, it was super fun. Great build quality, tons of tech, and man it handles well. It’s also a beautiful car. I would highly recommend
The Giulia Quadrafoglio is the closest thing we have to a new sedan from Ferrari.
Man, the one standout thing I noticed is how fast it shifts. Crazy.
150ms
ZF8 speed baby 😍 from the QV all the way down to the base model
@@berzerker790 not surprised. It’s been the top dog 8 speed on these types of cars for years. Just never realized how fast it was, especially considering that it’s not a dct.
You know what is even more underrated? The 2.0T Giulia, it drives just as good
YES FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT!
Yeah but a 4 cylinder 🤮
No it doesn’t lmao
Nope. Happy to have a 3 series instead. There is no real competitor to the QV. When it works 😊.
It doesn’t drive even close to the Quadrifoglio..
Well done! QV owner here - Ask me anything - bought my QV new and have put 20k miles on it and 4 track days so far and another 3 lined up this year. Prior to my QV I've owned an F80 M3 and a Giulia 2.0 TI Sport along with many VW's Audi's. There is just something special about this car that is different.
Better then a bmw??
@@joshmedina8053 My honest opinion is that the BMW (F80 M3) is the better all around car. It has better tech and interior creature comforts. That said, the Alfa is the better drivers car and a more raw experience. For me, the Alfa is good enough on the interior tech. It offers Android Auto and Apple Car Play starting in 2018 and the car really comes alive on track. It rewards you when you push it. Drive them back to back and the biggest thing you'll notice is steering feel and the way the car communicates to you is better in the Alfa.
How's been reliability? That's seems to be what people most worry about..
@@MIKAHGAMER reliability is honestly no different than any german . In 2017 (first model year in the states) there were some hiccups but they were all software related issues that got resolved with firmware updates. The only known lingering issue that I've seen is the car battery tends to die after 3 years or so. Trickle chargers help but a battery is easily replaceable. No drivetrain issues. Like I said I track my car too
Would you say it's suitable for someone with only 4 years of driving experience and no rwd experience? Ive heard that BMW Ms are dangerous and try to kill you at every corner, what about this one?
I think it’s cool to have the gulia that’s slept on. It not only surprised people in performance their interior is awesome. Here in tampa they are VERY popular
I’ve always liked the Giulia myself. It’s a ripper of a Sedan.
I always thought of the Guilia Quadriofoglio as a step up from the Kia Stinger, another underrated car. Both are fun looking sports sedans with twin turbo V6 engines.
They were slept on because they are of their respective brands. And why buy a Kia or an Alfa Romeo when you can get BMWs, Mercedes-Benzes, and Audis for not that much more money?
Many buy a brand. The smart ones buy fun driver's cars, no matter the brand.
Because not everyone wants to buy a car you see 50 of on every fucking street
@@andrettransformer I literally see more Mercedes, bmw, audi on the road then a stinger or giulia combined.
@@dnegel9546 Yep, same here, it's almost nauseating.
First time I’ve seen Alfa Romeo and Kia in the same sentence 🙄
@@petebennett7008, if that disturbs you a bit, the Kia Stinger has an upscale version in Genesis form. I think that model is going to be discounted, if it hasn't already.
I will say that at least up here in Canada you do see a decent amount of Alfas, especially the Stelvio. I still wish there were more Giulia's though, such a good looking car
Everyone forgot about this underrated beast, it’s has so much potential undiscovered 😢
Nobody forgot about them they are just expensive as shit and nobody wants to pay that much for a Alfa Romeo !
Good let’s keep that way so prices can stay down and I can snag one 😅. I’d rather have one of these over an F80 M3. These things are truly magnificent vehicles Alfa is overall an underrated brand here in the states what a shame.
@@TheRenegade. lol, good luck. The parts prices are going to stay expensive. I sold my 2018 Rosso red Quadrifoglio in 2021 for a 2022 RS5. It’s cheaper to own and maintain an Audi RS5 than it is to own and maintain an Alfa.
@@RadDadisRad Let me dream lol. But quite honestly I wouldn’t buy one of these as my daily. I know the reliability issues that come along with Alfa Romeo ownership can make it daunting on picking on up, but I still see these cars are remarkable vehicles for the price and honestly I feel if you plan to buy one you should have money to cover anything associated with ownership of the vehicle. Also I hate to say it but if cared about reliability I’d only ever drive a Camry 😂, right now I’m trying to acquire one of my dream cars being a 2002 E39 M5 and with that comes the typical bmw reliability issues. Sometimes it’s worth the cost of repairing said car but that’s just my two cents.
My customer has one with a carbon roof and the other circular wheels with the same color and that thing is freaking gorgeous and fast as hell. Would definitely choose it over any German car
Thank you for spreading the Alfa love! We got into a 22 Veloce about 7 months ago and absolutely love it. I have owned all the american v8 cars in the past 5 years including a C7 and outside of the C7 it is the most fun car I have owned. Notice I said "fun" people not fast (would be different if we had a QV). It is such a shame that Alfa refuses to properly market their vehicles and sadly the shrinking and poor dealer support isn't helping make it better. I had always wanted a BMW before we got the Giulia but now I'm a Alfa loyalist and try to spread the good word about them.
I 100% agree on this being very underrated. I've wanted one since they came out there just too much for me. Maybe one day. I'll just enjoy my Q50s for now. Lol
You always post these when I’m considering a car purchase. Thanks David 💀
Go for it!! Quads are sick
I am on my 3rd Giulia coming from AMG only I started with the 4cyl sport model and thought man if the 4cyl is this good I’ve got to get a Quadrifoglio. Test drove one and traded my cls63 on the spot and now have my second Giulia QV instead of an AMG GT which was a sore disappointment in driving experience. Went right back to Alfa and purchased my new Giulia QV in Ocra GT. The car is so good stock I haven’t done anything except a miltek catback exhaust which makes the tone throatier and less raspy. Took it to a track day and was running through the whole group with the exception of a Porsche cup car…… zero issues with reliability and wife also has a stelvio. Glad you love it as much as I have! Nice review
I love Alfa Romeo and was so excited when they came back to USA as ive prefered the sporty euro cars like the 4C, Alpine A110 and the Gulia. Those cars are beautiful and exhaust in my opinion are beautiful
The one I want is the 4C. Super rare, looks stunning, pretty quick once tuned and actually affordable. The only problem with the QV is that it looks very similar to a regular Gulia, whereas a 4C is a 4C.
Probably the best sounding 4 cylinder I've ever heard
The 4C is definitely a car worth owning, if you can live with its small size. There is nothing quite like it on the road and it's plenty quick too.
I daily drive the 4C. Its quick already without a tune. I am a nurse and I took care of someone who's son works for Chrysler Daimler in Phx. He is a software engineer and works on their "proving grounds". Long story short they had a QV engine in a 4C for testing and he said it was nuts. Too bad it didn't come to fruition.
@@SoldatX2 that would’ve been incredible but also scary lmao
I had to borrow one as my 4series was in for tyres and I actually think it's more of a drivers car than my 4 series.
I love my Alfa had it for about 4 months and it’s been amazing 🖤
They are an amazing car. I own one here in the UK with a Celtic Tuning stage 1 remap making 600 bhp. There isn’t much on the road that can out perform her.
I bought a Carly scanner. You have to buy a subscription for different manufacturers software (understandable and only like $22 a year). However, my issue with Carly is that they can’t scan cars older than either 2003 or 2002, and of course, my car is an 2001. I do hope they update their software because it’s definitely easy to use, but at the same time they could be a bit more detailed about what they actually include before buying.
They tell you if the car doesn't have a obd2 plug that you cant use it so that sounds like more of a you problem not Carly ! Geez they tell you all over the ads !
Even then a lot of cars that aren’t German are not supported which they don’t advertise. I’m in the same situation although 2 of my BMW’s I can scan on, I can’t scan on a 2006 accord? Damn near a ripoff they don’t advertise that you cant use it on all obd2 cars. Not a user error at all I feel you man.
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@@shannacollins4741 my car has a port. It’s a 2001 SVT Cobra.
@@shannacollins4741 Geez! You don't know what you're talking about! Wow!
I’ve been obsessed with these since they were new. I’m disappointed we never got the manual in the US, but I still really want one.
The manual gearbox was available in europe only for the first year of production (2015) on the quadrifoglio. They produced only few cars with the manual, like 200 or so. Everyone wanted the automatic and now who owns a manual quadrifoglio owns something very rare.
The manual was also available for the diesel versions (afaik never sold in the US), but almost all were sold with the automatic because of 8 speed vs 6, the engine was tuned with much more max torque with the automatic (450nm vs 380) and the paddles, available as an option for about 350€ even on the cheapest giulia with base interior and the base 136hp diesel engine, are awesome. On the diesel models the manual was dropped after the first 2 or 3 years of production (2016-2019). I myself own a diesel, automatic with paddles. The petrol 4 in line was never available with the manual and here in Italy we have always had only the AWD version of the 4 in line veloce. It was never available here in the RWD configuration except for few month few years ago. I wonder why. Only the 200hp petro version (afaik never sold in the US) was RWD.
The Gulia QF was my first real sports car I drove and I loved it so much. It has a special place in my heart and I hope to be reunited with it one day
Same here mis my qf
The exhaust makes it a wee quieter than I'd like, but I think that's how every v6 should sound like...I really like the deeper note it has, a stark contrast to a myriad of trompone vqs and vrs that are out there.
Cold starts are always ferocious though. 😊
I've always loved the Giulia since seeing a picture of the Quadrifoglio back in 2017, and always thought it was underrated. Glad to see it getting some good press!
I have one and is the most amazing daily I ever had. After so many miles I just keep it in the garage now and take it out on the weekends. MP3’s and AMGs are everywhere but very few QVs on the road
I was looking at videos of theses! Definitely considering this as my next car
My friend has one of these, absolutely an awesome car
You are lucky if your friend has it not I know a guy who knows a guy who knows... Like most ppl commented
The biggest problem is that most of the reliability issues talked about stem from the Quadrifoglio specifically. The 2.0L turbo cars are rock solid and share the same chassis too so it’s a ton of fun to drive. My Ti Veloce has had WAY less issues in 57k miles than my MK6 GTI had!
Only other downside from there is the dealer network is very hit or miss. I’m fortunate enough to live 10 minutes from one, yet I still drive 50 minutes out of my way to another Alfa dealer because they actually know what they’re doing!
Is this coming from the owner? Or I know a guy who knows a guy?
@@klimankhmeron7636 mostly a guy knows a guy or some car review on a old model. 2017 to present giulia models have no issues
@@30hours51 exactly, Alfa actually fixed their issues 😂
@@klimankhmeron7636 Coming from an owner! Bought my 2017 certified preowned at 26k miles, currently at 53k with the only major issues being the display delaminating (covered under warranty, parts took awhile as this was at start of pandemic), and recently a turbo coolant leak (covered under the extended warranty).
My GTI had a life long issue where it constantly stalled when hot (which VW could never resolve) and the timing chain stretched at 45k miles as it was one of the engines with the old chain and tensioner
@@calebpittman7444 Yup, mechanically the most common Alfa you or I would drive is sound. Software glitches definitely still happen (as they do on all modern cars now), but their biggest issue is definitely the dealer network and service department
I swear I was walking to my barber shop-saw one on a round about and got the notification.
Thanks for the review. Really enjoyed every second of it. Still the most beautiful but agressive looking sportsedan with great sounding exhausts, sporty and comfortable suspension, good choice for track days or every day usage.
The general public forgets that Alfa Romeo is the inventor creator of the sports sedan the original the authentic the best!
Love the seats in that car.
I was just wondering what was a good car some days back and started watching this car on CZcams and boom you have a vid on the same car 2 days later! This car is just a quality and elegant car!
The Gulia QV's are such badass machines! So what if they're not AWD like the M3 or E63.
It’s a big deal if you live in a place where it snows a lot.
They are low tech compared to BMW. If you want the exhaust valves open for noise, Race mode also disables stability control. These
Should be independent.
@@AmitPatel_. yes, there is an OBD TOOL from Squadra tuning so you can Open and Close it with de Gear shifter Button works in all Mods
@@AnontheGOAT Nah if you put snow tires on you'll be fine. It's only an issue if you are trying to actually race in snow/ice.
@@Sinoops doesn’t matter. Try selling a RWD vs AWD of the same car say for example where I live here in the Rocky Mountains.
I'm actually in the market for a new car and I was kinda looking at one of these as one of 5 potential vehicles. I'll def have to test drive one now and see if I have the same feelings.
Avoid these like the plague. Better consumer experience can be had with any other brand. Unless you can afford 2 of these don’t buy 1 of these.
They are TERRIBLE as far as reliability! Good gosh, you get one it is your funeral! 😅
@@RadDadisRad This was a consideration, but glad I opted for my '17 Cadillac ATS-V (6spd sedan)! Far superior in reliability and easy to make over 600hp on 93 octane tune or a autocross track queen.
@@Jay_Z. you’re right. I barely limped out of ownership with mine.
@@RadDadisRad Glad you made it out!😅 Shame they are nice Alfa's, but them repair bills are no joke but ofc I don't got to tell you that.
I bought an nring stelvio quadrifoglio because everyone who reviewed one had the biggest smile when doing so. They were wide eye and excited.
I had the pleasure of being driven in one of these around a track and it is an absolute hoon! Then you calm down and it calms down with you. I'd have one of these over any of its rivals in a heartbeat. Not since the proper Holden Commodores have we had a car with so much personality and is just so lovable.
I love this car.it should be more popular
Beautiful car I've raced one with the Volvo S60 t6 and tied lmao it was cool ASF
A t6 would have no chance against a QV, you probably raced a 2.0
@@andrettransformer I never said it was a Q did I?
There’s actually a good amount of them around me I think I live by a dealership (Indy) but that’s not where I feel in love with this car it was actually asetto corsa I was driving an m3 hopped in on of these and ran a 4 second faster lap and started driving it constantly the chassis just feels amazing you can feel Ferraris influence with how well this thing handles hope when I drive one in real life it lives up to that
It’s kind of cool how rare they are. I check them out every time. The front end has so much class. You KNOW* when you see it lol
Because I've seen these apart, I'll never own one without a good warranty. The performance is there, but they are on Mercedes level of complexity, and BMW level of use of plastic.
What do you expect wooden trim in the sport car? The reduce weight this way. My XE weight a ton more and no brembo breaks imagine the strength needed to push and stop a monster? What doest it mean a good warranty if it expired get full Mopar its cheap. Its not Obamacare. Lol
Honest reply, would love to hear an elaboration on this. Not trolling. Is there a 6 cylinder turbo luxury vehicle in America that you're fond of or have knowledge of that you would personally recommend? I'm not a vehicle engineer, and I'm happy to be meticulous on maintenance.
@@klimankhmeron7636 I'm referring to plastic use under the hood. Heat cycling destroys plastics and they never last long. If you dont wrench yourself, they can add complexity to what would otherwise be a less-so job. That drives up labor cost. The parts may also go defunct. That drives up parts cost. I'm not referring to interior in my comparison.
@@apexconnexion I'm partial to Lexus (Toyota), but I have to acknowledge the budget friendly Cadillac Blackwing series. They can even be had in manual if you like. Other than that, any BMW inline 6 ,turbo or not, is a good choice. The v8's have had problems with rod bearings in the 2010's but that may not be the case anymore. Stay away from Jaguar because in my firsthand opinion, they do not hold up over the years. The things you dont want to worry about like interior fitment, and subframe bushings. If you want something less luxury and more exotic, you can look to the (used) Lotus Evora. With a toyota 2GR powerplant and an Aisin transmission of your choice, it's hard not to beat on it without worry. Good luck!
I think it’s the perceived reliability, the very non-german, non-japanese interior, and overall brand stigma related to Stellantis. I’d love one but I see why people would rather get an M, AMG, or RS sedan instead.
I have this car as my first car and I have honestly learned so much for driving
the Guilia is by far my favorite car behind a Mustang. I've seen a video of a 622rwhp Guilia with Akrapovic exhaust and it was tuned and man 🥴🥴
Great looking car, and I’ve heard it drives great. But that reliability is the biggest problem
I've owned a Alfa since 2018. Not one issue with it.
This generation has reliable powertrains, but you must take it to an Alfa/Fiat/Ferrari specialist because most mechanics dont know shit about italians (long story short, don't take it to a dealership)
50k miles on mine and have 0 issues just basic maintenance more problems in my honda and bmw.
@@ionutbagmuianu884 But aren't Alfa dealerships by default specialists in their own brand...?
I was actually looking into getting one of these but when I went to look at a few nearby, their carfax had a lot of red flags. Cars always returning to the dealership for diagnostic every few weeks. ECUs being programmed. Clearing faults etc. This indicate that the cars are having issues and despite that the ones I looked at had very little mileage too. I think that's the biggest issue with Giulia for me.
I got to drive a n-Ring gulia . And I was sold immediately. It has just the technology I want and nothing more . No bs . It was the most amazing car I’ve ever drivin
I bought one when it just came out in 2017 in May and I had one of the very first batch that came to the USA and man im telling you everybody went nuts when they saw the car back then, Nobody had seen one and nobody even knew yet the looks and the engine sound would drive people nuts.
Quality ,reliability,parts availability, mechanic availability, name recognition, styling these are the problems with the car
How is style wrong with this car? I've seen them in person and they're beautiful. And at least outside of the US, Alfa Romeo are still seen as a historic brand.
Are you the owner or my cousin knows the guy who knows the guy who read it in the car magazine?
Styling id definitely not of the problems.
Well the Quadrifoglio is the only good version of the Giulia, and it costs $80,000 so that's kind of a hard sell for normal people that actually want one
Don’t forget reliability and parts availability. You may have the money to buy the parts but waiting 30 weeks for them to come in can be a deal breaker.
@@RadDadisRad yeah I heard Alfa's can be pretty unreliable, but I figured it wouldn't include the Quad
the slow panning of interior shots *chefs kiss*
Such a beautiful car and a beast of a machine. I've wanted one since they announced them!
I looked at them for a while but everyone I met with a quad said they were hyper unreliable
2019+
Go for 2.0T, it drives just as good
I'm the owner of regular Giulia during 1 year of ownership and 5 years trying to catch someone with the QF to speak to, I saw only one in 5 yrs. The owner was Chinese 19 yo kid. Loves the car, He doesn't have any issues despite the car is 2017 fully neglected washes twice a year and has 40k on ODO. If you spoke to as many as 2 the QF owners you hit the JP twice. Congrats.
Issue with the Giulia is the reliability. They’re notoriously unreliable and even if the newer ones aren’t as bad as they used to be they still carry that reputation.
Alfas have their issues like all manufacturers. Do not believe the hype about German reliability as it simply does not exist. Alfa s are about engineering excellence and the feel of the driving experience.
Who cares?
Alfa dealer worker here🤚🏻 fun fact the factory has been teasing us with an AWD Giulia Quadrifoglio, not 100% but it would make a lot of sense since the Quadrifoglios direct competition has AWD
I hope you're right. We really need an AWD version here in Canada. The Stelvio QV is AWD and don't think it would be a big problem to put that drivetrain in the Giulia QV.
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I’ve owned an Alfa the last 3 years and it’s been my favorite car so far. Competizione Rosso with all the goodies. Alfa’s steal your heart.
Completely agree, the Quadrifoglio is hugely underrated! I had the pleasure of driving one for a week as a rally leader for a Ferrari anniversary rally and loved every minute of it! It's unfortunate the GTA/m wasn't available in the states, that was an awesome package for this car.
Underrated by whom? All reviewers are positive about it? Maybe because you Americans don’t really get it what a proper sports-sedan is?
The Alfa is killer in the green , in the sun it’s absolutely insane
Thank you for your great review. I have owned 3 Alfa Romeos over 30 odd years but health issues forced me to sell my last, a 1984 Giulietta 2L. after 24 years.
Yes there is something unique about them. They demand to be driven well and the better you do the better they perform.
I like to say they become an extension of your hands and feet. If I ever recover I will buy a Giulia without a second thought.
I'm driving my second Gulia. I agree you definitely feel the difference between normal and race mode. I'm an old fashion guy, miss the manual transmission stick on the floor
My dad has a 1984 Alfa Spider, absolutely old Alfa Romeo. But a very special car. I own a 2019 Sport Ti giulia with over 40k miles. Zero problems, daily driver beat it to the ground. Never given me a problem except the battery drained and reset the computer when it sat in the garage for months. Drive it and it will repay you. Great cars
Owned my Giulia QF for almost a year now. Has been 100% reliable (this is usually the first question people ask), in fact more reliable than any of the german performance brands I have owned. I usually sell my cars after 12 months but this feels like a keeper, or at the very least I currently have no intention of selling it. It’s actually gaining iconic status in the UK, pistonheads are current running a vote on the best performance sedan of the past 25 years and based on the comments so far, the Giulia currently appears to be placed second after the e39 m5.
I've been looking at these more and more the past month. Considering pulling the trigger on one of these soon if I can score a good deal.
I just got back from driving mine and miss it already!!! Hope they stay in the states !!
Great review. Have you seen Jeremy Clarksons? 🤣😂 i’m actually an Alfa tech and my friend has a quad we race. Only correction is the ride height doesn’t change, only the damping. Great job on the video!!
Great video :)
I just went from a Giulia 2.0 to the stelvio quadrifoglio. 505hp in an suv is insane. Never had an issue with either of them
Do you have plans to keep it for a while? I just hear that they have reliability issues over 100k miles. Idk. I want a QV giulia in the future just get scared about the reliability unfortunately
I've always liked this, they absolutely nailed the styling.
Couldn't agree more. I got to drive one a year ago and the owner was riding co pilot. He told me to give it hell and I did. I build drift cars for a living. I obviously own and drive a couple as well. This thing honestly made me look like a superhero. Actually quite a good amount of angle and the power makes you forget the need for a 3rd pedal. Left foot braking does get the rear brakes really, really hot but thats not a huge deal.
I got an autocross ride-along in one the month it came out and have loved it since.
It’s not for everybody. That’s the point. I drive one, and I tried to avoid the attention, but you’ll get way more attention in this in a BMW.
I modded one on GT7. put some BBS LMRs. looks so good lol. I'm sure it'll look even better in person.
Bought a baby QV, the 280hp Veloce to daily drive & I think I'm gonna keep it until it's not affordable to keep going anymore 😂 Giulias are slept on for no good reason but I'm also ok with it being as rare as it is. Makes you feel special & it puts a smile on your face when you see another 1 driving the other direction
Moved to italy about a year ago and you have no idea of how badass is to see a light blue and white police julia rolling around
i prefer the look of black with red stripes used by Carabinieri (gendarmerie)
I drive a '17 Civic Si. I live in southwest Michigan and saw this listing a few days ago of a used 2018 Quadrifoglio sitting at an Audi dealership just a few blocks from downtown Chicago. I really wanted one and made a goal to test drive it. So I went there, took me 2 hours arrive and test drove it. The experience was super numbing, dull, pleasureless and I expected it to be with the shop's address being in the middle of baby Manhattan. I expressed my disappointed to the sales guy but of course it wasnt his fault simply because of the nature of the location. The next day I went through the listings again and saw another Quad with the same color, a year older, slightly lower mileage, cheaper but has a lemon title thats 30 mins away on the countryside in Indiana. I knew at that moment my expectations would be fulfilled, GLORIOUSLY. And it did. I test drove that car through some beautiful winding backroads and past a perfect straight by a cemetery. I swear I accelerated so fast it felt like I was gonna disturb the dead. For a guy who's been mainly driving cars with less than 200hp from the day he got his license, I can tell you that experiencing the power of a Quad - the FULL power of the Quad I should say - really really really opened my eyes to 'new horizons.' One of the best experiences Ive had in my entire life. The Giulia Quadrifoglio is truly an awesome car. I've heard reliability issues with the Giulias but I dont care. I'm thinking of going back to Chicago.
I agree, so underrated. The sports sedan for the enthusiast. Lighter, more precise, superior handling in its class. Beats M3 all day, eg.. Easy to drive fast. Better looking too (exterior, interior, wheels).
Using race mode on our crappy Michigan roads. You're a brave man.
I absolutely LOVE this car.. too bad I can’t afford one yet.. but I love these especially in black.. it just looks good.. plus the rims they have are so nice..
Alfas devalue really quickly in 5 years we will see them sell for under 35k. The Giulia QV is my dream car and I’m waiting to snipe one.
If I had a bottomless pit of money a QV would be my daily without hesitation. It’s so good when it works.
Giulia...brilliant and rare. On my 2nd, a misano blue Veloce 280. If you havent tried one, please do. You'll be smiling!! Handling is awesome, quality is right up there.
I've been obsessing over these for a few months.. I think I'm going to buy a '20+ next year if I get a good bonus at work 🤤
The exhaust note sounds amazing
The 4c and the giulia quadrifoglio gta are my favorite modern day alfa romeo cars and i'll make sure to own them one day.
Always loved these and I like the way they sound
I absolutely love this car, I'm a car guy like you, as I'm a Fiesta ST owner, like you once we're, I'd give anything to drive this car. I've had my Fiesta ST since 2014 new and now has 105,000 miles on it and with its Cobb stage two Tune it still runs a Champ. The Fiesta Flash.