Triathlons and Iron Man Competitions: What Does It Take?
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Triathlons and Iron Man Competitions: What Does It Take?
Joe sits down with Paul Felder, a retired professional mixed martial artist and current color commentator for the UFC. www.ufc.com/athlete/paul-felder
This clip was taken from the JRE MMA Show episode #135 w/Paul Felder.
Host: Joe Rogan @joerogan
Producer: Jamie Vernon @jamievernon
Guest: Paul Felder
#jre #jamievernon #theovon #elonmusk #joerogan #podcast #jordanpeterson #lexfridman #paulfelder
Started in 1999. over 23 years later. Over 150 tris including 4 IM's. Love this sport. Lionel is a superstar...nice to see other athletes crossing over.
You are next level
I raced 10years. Had the most incredible thrill of being so fit in my life. Just an amazing feeling every time I finished a race. JRE needs to interview pro triathletes. 🙌🙌
Triathlon is the most grueling sport even! I used to race pro short course triathlon 20 years ago. Now at 40 I jumped back into the age group racing and it’s gotten so so so much faster! People have no idea what it takes to do triathlon at any distance it’s an absolute grueling test of endurance and physiology but most of all your own mind!
Doing my first triathlon this August. Wish me luck.
Did you do it, how was it?
How did it go!? Hope you crushed it!
Paul Felder finished the 2022 Atlantic City 70.3 in 4:34:50.
I know I'm not the only one wanting to know what kind of times he can hit.
Dude, I was impressed with his times. 6th AG, and 26th overall!
He's most definitely put in some work. To hold a 1:40 pace for the swim is good, and a 24.5-25mph avg for bike is niiice, and he was pushing around a 7:20ish pace for the run!
Could only find his overall times, (quick math for the paces).
Ya your not alone brother, was super curious!
That impressive tho . For someone who started swimming late like me
That is a crazy time in my opinion. Im not a triathlete though lol
That's an insane time
Yeh what people don’t realise is he already got high baseline than your average punter being a pro athlete. Add another 15-20 hours then those times is doable for him.
Ive always needed a future event as a target for motivation. For us amateurs, it’s broken down to five year age groups. The ultimate goal is to “podium” (top 3 placing within your age group). Pick a destination event and the training will take the requisite shape. Land on the podium, and you get to Hawaii! It’s just like Crank Yankers, “I want to go to Hawaii !!!” for the IM World Championships.
Love this!!! Comming from a basic martial arts background and transitioning to Triathlon I totally get this!!! Not same level of course in either category, but this warms my heart.
Felder is pure class. A scary beast competing close to the top of the UFC in his weight class for years. Now he's taking on triathlons and is already very knowledgeable about them and super humble about his abilities. Doing a half iron for your first triathlon takes big balls which he clearly has. But he's totally realistic about the big gap between competing in triathlon as a pro and an amateur.
My 5th year in triathlon and my love for the sport keeps getting stronger
It's great to see Paul Felder promoting the sport of triathlon on a large public platform like the Joe Rogan Experience!
I did Tri's in its early day back in 80s and 90s. Took a break for 26 years and came back last year for a 70.3 and then a full IM. Deep back in now. Some men get a expensive car for thier mid life crisis. I buy bikes 🤣
Lol. Lionel is the white goggins
Goggins did a triple ironman. 6x the distance that guy competes at. Not even close
@@michaelmay4448 Its clear you don’t understand. I can say goggins can’t keep up he would get lapped. But both men come from hard grit. Lionel does comes from the same background no Tri athlon experience now one of the best.
Goggins does all type of endurance feats but not the best.
@@michaelmay4448 Goggins isn't doing them near the pace Lionel is. Not even close. Goggins 2008 Ironman in Kona was over 11 hours.
Not even close. Also Lionel is great but the young generation is at another level.
@@rm4566 I thought Jan is fast but this new generation is something different.
Rogan doesn’t understand the elite pro triathlete’s level of endurance
Usually, people that do weights won't understand.
@@nightsfalling what does doing Weights have to do with this? Any guy who doesnt do triathlons, doenst understand it
Did my first Ironman in 1986. Greatest test of character you will ever experience…. Like combat sports you become the athlete during training, you just test yourself on the day….
Lionel Sanders is the fucking man
Hell yeah
No....Jan Frodeno is the man !!
@@iantalbot3664KB better
@@enchristian1804Sam Long Yo Yo Yo
My first triathlon was a 70.3 in Santa Cruz. Escape from Alcatraz is my favorite. This year will be my 3rd Escape. Age group tri is the best addiction!
The Diaz brothers used to do Triathlons they would do the Old Vineman 70.3 in Santa Rosa, CA area.
MMA past 13 years, Triathlons past 8 years. Fought/trained MMA and competed tri's simultaneously for 7 years. Took a Lil time off fighting last year. But still loving both. They transfer very nicely to eachother. I compete in about 18 Sprint triathlons a year (8 month season). Ultra marathons etc, but MMA is my base/origin. Really helps with cutting weight for fights, lol. Little over a year ago. I did a 208 mi event, then week later had a triathlon, week later MMA fight, week later National tri Championships and so on. I compete nonstop. This Saturday will be my 3rd week in row triathlon. Now Im competing not just doing them. Hit 7 x 1st places last year in my AG. Podium almost every race at the least. Almost won an overall (2nd place on 2nd day) when I did 2 races back to back Sat n Sun. I must say the Tri community welcomes fighters. They will announce your an MMA triathlete upon calling you for award. I also compete in many other type events. Love it! MMA is still a beast all on its own but everything helps everything when boil down to it. I plan on fighting again this year along with everything else. Multi Sport National championships are in a couple weeks Dallas. It's on!! One day I will be able to help guide/advise others whom do the same. It's a diff life to live that's for sure, but surely living life!
SideNote: Sprint Triathlons are typically Swim 400-1000m, Bike 10-20+ miles, Run 5k. The best do them a Lil under an hour. If your an average competitor the finish time is more like 1hr30min. And it's all Anaerobic as in ZONE 5. (HR 170+)
Now us Sprint athletes train distantces as though we're doing a 70.3 IM.
Higher level Sprint triathletes usually train : Run 100+mi/month... Bike 2-400mi/mo....Swim 20+ mi/mo. Kinda like MMA. If you have 3 round fight then you train for atleast 9 rounds minimal.
Hats off dude. Respect!
Way to take someones moment and try and make it about you bud. Were not here for your story of many losses and below par pace on courses. Save this for your diary m8
Hey Josh. Was reading thru comments and saw your name. Recognized it from the CalTri FTW event this past week. Kudos to you!
@@ShinzoUchihaX Normally I do not engage in non intelligent comments but today I got time mate.
From a psychoanalytical view it seems your comment has more to do about yourself than me. FYI.
I am a rather humble dude. I'm no way near these dudes level in MMA and I'm no pro at triathlons. Still working thy way up there. Definitely not easy due to some of these guys have natural abilities and are just on a phenomenal level which is amazing and leaves me in utter awe. As for the all about me comment. Actually quite the opposite sir. That was sharing data so that others know it's attainable even for ameatures like myself. In aim to possibly motivate another to try this path. As well as give somewhat more accurate data on sprint tri times and distances. Fighters and triathletes are very cerebral. We all love to share data for others so that it may help one another due to that we ALL are more in competition with ourselves rather than others ultimately. We're all in this together brother. With that said, I'm sure my small comment on a YT short didn't take the spotlight from, ..... N/A. If there's something that your putting your heart and soul into, I would genuinely be interested to hear about it. It's refreshing to some of us whom can be inspired by what others are doing or attempting etx. But all in all, I wish you the very best and safe journeys mate.
Should you ever like to have an objective conversation, I'd be honored. Be well :)
@@benjaminfair3214 Ayeee Thanks Brother, small world! And you as well. Hope you had fun man! That course was kinda brutal, really cold waters, bike was nice and hilly, and the run, omy twas almost all uphill especially at the ending stretch!!! Hope to see ya at the next one! Not sure if you/yall are doing the multi-sport nationals in Las Colinas next week. Beautiful 4 day event. If not, maybe the next ft worth tri!
Goodluck in future events either way brother!
Let's Goooo!!!
Rogan has no idea how fast elite ironman athletes are. No chance Feldman has that fluidity in the run mechanics that match those people who have run 2:30-2:45 hr marathons.
Agreed. I compete in Ironmans. I’m average at best. Even these elite amateur guys (not even pro) are so unfathomably fast. These pros can run the entire 26 mile marathon, after cycling 112 miles and swimming 2.4 miles, at a pace for the entire 26 miles that I couldn’t do for one stand alone mile if someone had a gun to my head
Agreed
I think even an age group podium is hard
the 5k is where it's at. also healthiest to train for, for longevity.
@@nickmazzino5003 Yep, I tucked under 9.30 in my best IM (in Australia), and didn't even make my age-group podium (and was over an hour behind the pro winner...). The pointy end of the field is VERY fast.
I have raced bicycles for years. Occasionally a new rider comes along that has a boxing background. Those guys make great road bike racers. They have fast twitch and slow twitch muscles endurance and speed incredible discipline and can ignore pain. They are lean and usually smaller guys. Perfect bike racers.
I don't care how fit anyone thinks they are, go to an ironman event and you will be humbled.
Humbled, but it’s doable
Love it! Triathlon is the most fun you can have with 200 other people watching you
My first one was done in a surfing wet suit, on a barrowed bike and zero bike training 😂
I'm doing 8 sprint's this year and working for 2 half Ironman's next year all being well
Think about doing an Olympic towards the end of this year. I went from sprint to half and it was a struggle, doable but a struggle. Do an Olympic to get a kick in the pants
@@danshort10 have done an unofficial olympic, transition was slow as had to put wet suit in my boot and unlock my bike then chain bike up again after cycle lol
Dear diary
Sanders just competed in SLT arena games which is brutal short course stuff too
I did a double ironman and then last year did a Triple ironman. Have friends who has done 5 times and others who have done Deca 10 times - These were continues events, and 1 a day for x days. . There is more mad people out their than Goggin’s, who just don't want to be on social media telling people they are lazy and fat, as they do it for themself. To race an Ironman and be competitive is different to just tuning up and completing it, most people could do that in the 17hrs window with little training. Many people would eat goggin up for breakfast. But I do like the guy for what he is trying to share and not worry about what people think. Lionel is a legend he knows pain and deals with it very well, suspect his past makes him this way.
There's a lot of people doing these crazy things like 10 Ironmans in 10 days etc. But nothing beats signing up for 1 event and be fully dedicated to it, whether it's a sprint, OD, 70.3 or IM. It's how much effort you put in your training daily
uuuuuuh woww jealous much? @wasserwolf
Nice work man. I've done the Ironman distance and left it at that. I tend to prefer ultra marathons. There are a ton of people who are faster and have gone more miles than Goggins, but that's not really the point of what Goggins is saying, the point he is saying it push yourself both physically and mentally and you will the freedom you have been looking for. At least, that is what I get from his messages.
But can your friends passed all the special forces in the army, navy and airforce if they are that superfit right? 🤷♂️🤫 how many ultras have they done when goggins has 60 under his belt? 🤷♂️🤫 goggins isnt about being the fastest, its being the toughest. Does your mate had 2 heart surgeries and still did ultra marathons? Goggins would eat you and your mates alive all day any day dude. You guys will stop after major surgery knowing you might die. So what else you gonna brag? We’re waiting mate 😊
@@B0_171_Leadvillle yeah goggings always say that he isn't superhuman and that everyone can do what he does
Thanks for this guys- just ramping up for 1st 1/2 Ironman - Paul I am right with you. I call the swim training “not drowning” so far. Haha!
Just finished up my ironman 70.3 indian wells yesterday with a borrowed surfer wetsuit 😂 when they brought that up in the interview I lol’d so hard
😂😂 My 1st was ironman Wales and did it with 4/5 months training and I couldn't swim. Still at them and love it
So you didn't do it with freestyle stroke, right? But congrats on doing it! That's a huge accomplishment!
Dave Mirra was a good triathlete as well.
Joe, you should get Joe skipper on here, Ironman champion many times over and one of the most interesting guys in sport.
Diaz vs Gomi was another fight where it seemed like he was absolutely beat, and then completely turned it around.
I'm almost 60 and I run 14 .Iles every other day... I started doing Triathlons back in 1984.... now I just run for fun back 20byeard ago I ran a half marathon in Death Valley when it was 123 degrees! Just because.
I’ve been powerlifting and doing mud runs / OCR for over a decade. I’m thinking of taking a break from the heavy lifting, and switching to ultras and triathlons. The initial investment is what’s holding me back. Maybe next year.
The cost is worth it. If you haven’t started, start now
What are the mini triathlons called? I would love to do one
I'm so proud of my Dad, he got me into Cycling, and I was in the Pool the day he passed,,, Peace3ed
Yeah get Lionel Sanders on! Incredible story!!
Shout out Lionel Sanders!! Love it
After years of going down a bad path Lionel Sanders and God inspired me to get after it 💪
glad your here brother keep crushing it
Getting off the bike and your legs feel like jello and you have to go run.
Power Sporting thumbnail!
He will step up to the full Ironman.
You cannot do a sprint triathlon in 30mins. The top pros do it in around 52mins
I second that!
They probably ment super sprint
Olha o sporting ali na tumb nail 🎉
Doing my first tri in August! Nervous
HAHAHAAAA Lionel got me too homie
Olympic tris are the best in my opinion. Training for them is incredibly selfish for your family. You can train for an Olympic and still be a part of your family.
Also if you aren’t a swimmer I would highly recommend you find a local masters swim team and train with them. They care everywhere and very welcoming. Usually there’s a coach to give you technique info.
Toughest sport in the world man. Unrelenting pain for 8-17hrs.
I went from a 10k to a full distance 140.6 Ironman in 6 months on a borrowed bike and didn't know how to swim until 2 months before race day. Yes, triathlons are hard. But, anything is possible!
All the best Paul…I am sure u will do wonders there..
Joe rogan should definetely have Lionel Sanders on his podcast
Gnarliest athletes out there
Try Norseman or Celtman.
Good luck getting on the podium.
right, I am waiting to be in 50-54, then maybe I'll have a slight chance :)
We want to hear about what Paul eats during his triathlon!
Apparently nothing if he loses ten pounds
Nick Diaz does triathlons, too!
and they are both average amateurs. lol
@@timvanmonero2720 can't be great at everything.
@@ibbjos08 that's true. but they hyped therself for being legit badass. nick claimed his bike that got stolen was worth 50k$. when it was 12k$ at best. lol
@@timvanmonero2720 why would Nick lie?
@@barryrockefella nobody knows. fact is, his 2009 cervelo or whatever it was, was a 12k$ bike at best. even today, you cannot have 50k$ bike and 15 years ago even less of a chance. you can absolutely max out your triathlon bike at ~15k$, with custom 3d printed cockpit you really can't go above 20k$. it's impossible.
yes, he made up shit. as usual.
they are also barely average and not world class. lol.
all you need are MONEY and TIMES
Ironman... ill be doing it til im 80
It’s funny hearing Joe trying to shift a conversation back to a topic (MMA) which has absolutely no correlation to triathlon 😂
he's talking to an ex-MMA fighter.
Ironman is same is triathlons as a triathlete here in Philippines and soldier my soon become a Promen after I serve the Philippines 🇵🇭
Lionel should stay away from JRE podcast..might end up smoking a joint
5K > marathon > Iron-Man
depends on how fast you do them. just because its longer distance doesn't make it better. BTW I've done them all. IMO running a fast marathon "hurts" you the most.. Usually in the marathon within an IM...you aren't running fast enough to do the damage that you do in an open marathon... this is specific to most age groupers.. pro's run the 26.2 very fast...so for them IM likely hurts > open marathon. I've run
@@jlafren42 exactly why I'm saying the 5k is better than the marathon or ironman
@@jlafren42 Niiiice times bro!! By far impressive af!
@@jlafren42nice thats fast. Are you on testosterone at that age? You better not be as that is cheating if you ain’t a pro.
@@jacklauren9359 absolutely not! I'm a pharmacist and have been able to resist starting any RX drugs until 58th birthday, just started an alpha blocker for BPH. The more you know about prescription drugs the less you will ever want to use them, certainly not electively. You definitely don't want to go down the TRT rabbit hole either, it can become a life long requirement.
Joe Rogan. Oracle of all health doesn't know what a tempo run is..
If Nick Diaz has endurance then I can spar with Mike Tyson. Nick Diaz survives triathlon.
My first triathlon was an iron man. Yeah, I'm cool
Yes Lionel sanders !!!!
He will never be a pro…even winning age groups is insane fast and will never happen. And yes I’m an experienced Ironman athlete.
I must say I was impressed that he got 6th place AG and 26th place Overall in that 70.3 IM Atlantic. Wasn't expecting that. But ya those elites are just on a phenomenal level.
Jay, cab I ask you for a bit of advice ??
I train 5 or 6 days a week.
I want to do my first triathlon (Ironamm cork) 19 months from now.
My 10km time is about 50 mins. Yes, slow, but that's without pushing myself, just jogging.
Right now I can do a marathon, though slowly.
My goal is to do ironman cork August 2025, 19 months from now.
I plan to build a large base fitness and then the last 12 weeks, do speed workouts.
Do you think it's possible to break 12 hrs if I train hard/smart.
@@na-dk9vmunsolicited advice but get a coach. Best thing ive done in doing IM
An experienced arsehole too it sounds
Never say never, or put limitations on yourself or other. Of course its possible
If you lose ten pounds during a 70.3, you're doing it wrong.
Americans love to exaggerate 😂
Why be bad at 1 sport when you can be bad at 3
I found this guy lionel sanders,…lol dude, he’s way more famous than you pal….
What a fkn badass
As a pro triathlete I would love to put my two sense in 😂
yeah...
You only have two senses?
You don't lose 10 pounds in a race lol
IM is the ultimate narcistic sport. Its not a social sport. None of the workouts promote socialization.
All IM athletes only talk about themselves and their next PR....
Biggest secret: Its not hard for elite runners.... Its extremely hard for everyone else...
🤡🤡🤡
It can be a very social sport. I swim with a group and the camaraderie is great. Same goes for group runs. It can be very individual if you want it to be.
Hey, doofus you spelled it wrong.
Ironman = the Race
Iron Man = cartoon character
The guys an animal of an athlete.