One thing they failed to mention: When you put in self-checkout, "lay off" your cashiers, cut your staff to the bone, and end up with nine underpaid employees in a 250,000 sq. ft. store, you're not going to stop shoplifters.
My supermarket has done this. I never use it. Along with the other refuseniks, I line up to deal with the human cashier. Once they’re gone, I won’t visit the store.
Yeah way to distract from the main issue of rising crime due to leftist district attorneys. Best way to stop shop lifters is punishment not more employees
Dont worry ... R- lead states are introducing new child labor laws. Thanks to outdated federal mandates it only requires companies to pay $4.50 hr for the first 90 days of employment. I'm sure Walmart will take advantage of this and hire disinterested teens to fill checker positions.
@kuru K I don't care if God's launching missiles. I'm in the black hills and I know where a cave is that hides under 500 ft of granite. The old days are back baby
Stop telling the students to not go to college and start telling the corporations that employees typically don't need college to be successful in your company.
@@kathydb613 Yup. For example, neither of my kids actually finished college, both of them are now knocking it out of the park in their fields. One kid is making about 3X what I make and the other is making just under 4X what I make and I'm not exactly making minimum wage. They were given the chance and both are doing better than most in their companies. Both are now directors where they are. Education doesn't always translate to intelligence as we're seeing every day in politics. Sometimes people just need a chance and maybe we need to figure out a better way of judging how you determine if someone should get a chance. Degrees don't tell you nearly enough of what you need to know about the potential employee. I remember my wife telling me about one of her workers bragging about his mba every time he was called to the carpet for making screw-ups. It always went the same way, you screwed up and put the company in jeopardy, he brings up his mba, she'd have to remind him that his peers without mba's aren't screwing up and his clients don't care about his mba and neither did she. What she cared about were results and no screw ups. Long story short, he got the message after repeated warnings, resigned and everyone in his department sighed with relief. My wife puts very little weight on post secondary education because she's seen that some of her best workers over the years only had a high school education and are now doing better than she is. She hires people on contract for whatever amount of time when there's an opening, if they work out, she offers full time, if it doesn't, when the contract expires, she lets them go, no hard feelings as they were never hired full time to begin with.
Love McWhorter. He's great on Glenn lowry's pod cast. Recommend the time when Lowry goes off about Ibram X Kendi and John McWhorter can't stop laughing. When McWhorter laughs the world smiles. Plus Lowry is priceless on Kendi, lol.
I loved it when 'Overtime' was on CZcams right after 'Real Time', not the next day. Please bring it back to Friday night. Bill Maher and all the staff at 'Real Time' do such an amazing job. Thank you for keeping us informed and the laughter (laughter is so good for our health). Much thanks! 🇨🇦
She is a plant I call her the Hyena. There is a guy every week who whoops all the time, I believe the Hyena and the guy are hired. Maher has said he now keeps a smaller more enthusiastic audience and has eliminated what he called "the moaners". He has in a way "cancelled' a segment of his audience which is an issue he whines about (cancelling) all the time. Bill has become somewhat of a hypocrite.
Thanks Bill. For me, this was joy and a relief to have such exceptional guests on your panel as John McWhorter and Josh Tyrangiel. Both gentlemen who, in addition to having a stimulating discussion about linguistics and how colleges have become just another business for selling loans--know enough about interpersonal communication to respectfully and appropriately take turns speaking. It's a relief to return to another fine dialogue after recent episodes where politicians and bloggers shout impolitely and interrupt everyone else.
In their discussion of college, they failed to mention TRADE SCHOOLS. Those still exist, and for the right people can often be the perfect fit to place them in a productive career path, often in a short time. More high schoolers need exposure to trade skills and we need Shop Classes and Secretarial Courses brought back to junior high school.
They've mentioned trade schools many times in the past, particularly when Bernie was on a couple of weeks ago. He specifically included trade skills in his proposal of free college educations, etc.
Yes. And talk about CRT ideology why it's so bahd for all Americans. He has many videos about this. Even has some good things to say about it, but not much.
I found these guests to be very pleasant and insightful to listen to they didn’t shout down one another or blabber on too long about pointless nothings.
Expanding access to advanced classes in high school, as well as trades, especially in low-income schools, particularly rural schools, would really help.
My son received culinary and hospitality education in high school. He graduated with a certificate and immediately worked on the line in fine dining. He’s now a professional bread baker for a high end grocer, as well as apprenticing as a mushroom farmer. High school is where we need more on offer.
Agree. I still believe in higher edu and what it’s originally about. I benefited immensely from my experience and degree. I do realize not every HS graduate needs to go or will get the same from it. I’m intellectually curious, most people are not and nothing wrong with either way. The diversity of personalities in our species made us very successful.
@@bizonc me too and it’s there for us. I hold two degrees, with a now non-practicing medical license, as well as a biz license unrelated to my degree fields. I keep learning because I passionately want to. My sons both tried college and didn’t enjoy it as I do. They’re both extremely successful in their culinary professions. High school has, in recent years, been treated as preparatory for college; That’s the mistake. It’s should be about the business of creating whole, well-rounded, and capable CITIZENS. $.02
Agreed! And, in those other countries, the kids are actually parented so that they come to school prepared to learn and behave like something other than wild, entitled animals.
Other countries outpace the US in education because we currently do not have unified culture with unified values. We spend more time in the universities debating what SHOULD be taught instead of working more at the ground level with families to establish environments that encourage and promote learning in the home. The time kids spend on campus mean nothing if their education is not also stratified in the home. The children that excel in American education are from communities that already place a high value on it such as Chinese, Indian, and Hispanic.
McWhorter is a national treasure. He is spot on with college. College is a racket nowadays. Not every degree should be a 4 year degree. A bachelors should be adjusted to what specialty you are going to go into. Until they make those adjustments, kids coming out of high school should go to trade schools and/or community college.
@@Bradgilliswhammyman True for now. But if our society would change its views around 4-year degrees then things will change in the future. Having a 4-year degree doesn't make a person smarter, more experienced, or better equipped to tackle a job. It just shows that they paid some school a lot of money for a piece of paper. And that is coming from someone with a degree.
@@kitcoffey7194 LOL! No I don't have much respect for the garbage that is going on, on a lot of campuses today. Tell me you look down about trade jobs without tell me.
Yeah this is such a crock of shit. They are building a new town for employees for Space X Tesla Boring Company, not a utopia. It's not Disneyland or an experimental commune or anything like that. It's just a town, people are just being hyperbolic coz it's MUSK and he is the baddie in their book. Sensationalism.
I’ve lived all over the country. St. Louis, San Francisco, Orlando, New York City and now live in Portland. It amazes me how much crap Portland gets for being “scary” or “crime filled”. It’s pretty bad when it comes to the homeless but not much worse than any of the other cities I’ve lived in and traveled to in the US these days and when it comes to crime sure there are plenty of petty crimes but not much violence. I’d be way more afraid to visit downtown St. Louis and 100 other rust belt to southern cities than Portland.
Agreed. We were there to scout it for a conference last fall and it was mostly great. The downtown had streets so clean you could eat off them. 23rd Avenue was was one of the most charming shopping streets I’ve ever seen. The cocktail lounges along East Burnside were great. The Japanese garden was beautiful. Yup, I saw some homeless people and I’m sure there’s crime. Just like every other city. Oh well.
The problem is, not all students want to be labourers (nothing wrong with that - one son and my husband operate heavy equipment) but what about the person who wants to learn history to eventually teach? My youngest son comes home from uni everyday and I ask him what he learned that day. Invariably, what he has covered in class are topics about which he already has great knowledge. I asked him about that and his response - “I don’t need to learn this stuff…I already know it. I need the degree to be able to do what I want in my life.”
They had little time to go into details on the show but there are many ways to approach schooling. 2 years for a history degree is sufficient, for a master's or PhD make it 3-4. You don't need 2 years of general Ed courses and it can be done semi remote or completely remote. I'm doing a master's right now completely remote. The point is the current, 4 year university system is not necessary. Some subjects can be learned on the job, online, in trade school, and yes some need formal schooling. But there is a lot of fat to trim.
What these men are saying isn't all wrong but what I find alarming is that all of these men have a sphere of influence and Bill in particular keeps on harping on this topic pretty much every show, so are any of them mentoring someone in their field? On one hand Bill keeps saying people are stupid and that the education system isn't working and then turns around and say the colleges are useless. For these men to say that kids are getting smart by not going to college is rich. Is going to a college for everyone of course not. Do we want Doctors learning from CZcams, or lawyers, engineers, scientist etc. ? What these men are doing is irresponsible and spreading misinformation on top of it.
@@magicmarker7047 Nope, you don't want your Amazon drivers, factory workers, HVAC technicians et al being told that they *have* to get a four year degree to have a career, which is the inverse of your Doctors from CZcams bit. Of course *some* people need four (or more) year degrees. It's been pushed for decades that you must have a degree to make money and it's not true. People that go to tech schools for a year or two start their careers, work their way up, and have houses and cars and families while some of the kids who got sold on four years of University for $300k (or whatever obscene amount it is right now) will most likely be far behind, paying off that debt, and might catch up in their 50's.. maybe. No one is saying four year degrees don't have any value. They are saying they are not *required*, which is what I was taught in the 80's.
@@dreamcoyote I have never thought that Amazon drivers, factory workers needed to have a college degree to do those kinds of jobs, they come under the heading of unskilled jobs. Of course we need technical schools as a step down from colleges. For those that have zero desire or ambition can then all become CZcams influencers because that seems to be the trend, but that then opens it up to nothing but rich kids getting an education which then causes the rich to stay rich and the poor stay poor. The power lever stays the same because people like this panel don't want anyone to rise above their ignorant station. If people expect nothing from their society they will get nothing. How many times has Bill stated that the GenZ are not very motivated.
Best episode in a little while now, great dialogue between the panel and the entire episode felt like how real time should aspire to be on a regular basis
@@terriej123 Three respectable people having a civil and productive conversation. Nobody looking to “one-up” one another. Everyone dropping their egos at the door.
Wal-Mart sucks. The whole self check out nonsense has to stop! Every time I'm forced into it, I ask an employee when the staff party is. If I have to do the work, I want some perks!
In the US, college is a racket. Unless your goal is something that requires a high degree such as doctor, lawyer, etc. Just learn the job you want to do and DO it. My generation got suckered into believing you can’t get any job without a college degree, and for a while it was true. In the early 2000s I was an office manager and to hire for a receptionist job, for $9 an hour they wanted at minimum, an associates degree. Like, they won’t let you answer their phones until you go at least $10,000 in debt. It’s BS. I really hope businesses aren’t requiring college degrees for menial, mindless work anymore.
Unless you are going into major sciences or something like law where it takes a decade to learn everything, 1-2 yr secondary schools for business, technology, specialized labor, mechanics, plumbing, electrical, carpentry, etc, should be readily available. Vocational high schools and 1-2 yr secondary programs are fantastic. They have been defended and faced out all over the County. They need to be reinforced and promoted and employers, even high tech, should be supporting them. They used to be tge backbone of the middle class and need to be again.
@@basicstickfigure1087 Manufacturing is only one of MANY types of blue collar jobs. So your statement is only partially correct. And recently….we are doing the opposite of Globalization….so many of those manufactured jobs are starting to come back
Portland is not as bad as the media makes you think. I live in a suburb of Portland and go there a lot. According to local reporting, the Walmart closures were more likely due to low sales. Why didn't the media pick up the stories when Walmarts closed in Texas? Crime and homelessness is a problem across the country.
I was like, yeah, but I'm sure David had better things to do. I guess he probably doesn't smoke pot though, because he definitely would've been hanging around otherwise.
I love what Josh said about "Don't ever go to film school. Watch youtube." I found that to be the case when the pandemic began and things shut down and moved online. I had been doing stand-up comedy and poetry at open mic nights, but around 6 months to a year in, I decided to look into acting, screenwriting, making short films and found all these resources through youtube channels, facebook groups, webinars, film challenges and I learned so much online for free than I ever did taking film 100 or theater 100.
I live in Portland. It has developed some problems since I moved here 20 years ago. But devastated? Not quite. Rest assured, I can still get shaving cream without calling for security.
I think you just got used to this shit (literally). When I lived in Seattle 20 years ago, I would not imagine an RV parked near my house, cooking meth, having sewage pumped every week, and Nothing I can do as a home owner. And now - this is Actually happening. Crazy people shouting at people walking by, tent towns, feces on the street. Yes, it's not Aleppo, not literally devastated, but devastation of the minds is obvious and evident.
You're the proverbial frog in the slowly boiling pot. I live here too and have seen the changes over the past 35 years. Shootings and murders are 6x what they were in the 2000s. Thousands living in tents or broken down vehicles strewn across the region (there's a solid mile of bumper-to-bumper RVs up on NE 33rd Drive for instance). Garbage and needles everywhere. Post-2020 police force reduced by 200 officers so there's slow response and often no investigation/mitigation of property crime an average person might encounter. My nice apt complex in SE has had a shooting, a car stolen, (locked) mail room robberies just in 2023 alone. All from outside, all seemingly drug related.
To qualify my comment, I am not at all thrilled with Portland. I am a regular guy with a house and a rental property. Now I am selling my rental because the laws make owning a rental here ridiculous. Good luck housing advocates - I hope you get your desired outcome (hint, you wont). The place is run by activists that don't appear to have much experience as administrators. It feels like most of them walked out of their protest movement into office. It is filthy in many parts of town and as others have said, crime and drugs are on the rise. It kinda sucks here now. But, it is not true that everything is locked behind glass when shopping. I have lived in total hell holes a lot worse than Portland, even if this place is circling the drain.
John McWhorter is so freakin' funny as well as brilliant. What would you call him? Sardonic? I liked the other guy too; his take on things is really close with McWhorter's and also very intelligent. This has been one of the best collection of guests in a long, long time.
Yes... I remember when Littlefeather made her debut in 1973 to receive Brando's Oscar, but my favorite was 1977's Best supporting actress for Julia, Vanessa Redgrave's speech defending Palestinians, even as most in the audience booed her non-stop forcing her off the stage. Now that was brave!
The Walmarts in Portland are not anywhere near the city center and it is false that they are closing because of shoplifting. They're closing because they're not doing enough business.
They overlook the advanced education needs of those like engineers and research scientists when they dismiss college out-of-hand. For those careers, it is necessary. And those careers are necessary for a functional society.
Well that kind of goes with out saying. They and no one else in their right mind thinks let’s say a doctor can learn to be one from on the job training or CZcams.
@@richardlug6139 To say college is unnecessary is a sweeping statement, first of all. It covers everything. But most importantly, it's not just necessary for doctors and engineers. Graphic artists, for instance. You'll need at least a 2 year degree to get into that industry. Unless you're misinformed that college isn't necessary, then you just don't get in. Same for Social Work, Information Technologies and FBI Agent. There's a litany of careers out there you can't have without a degree, and it's short-sighted to suggest otherwise.
They definitely don't overlook that. He always says that there are many professions that benefit and require a college education. The argument specifies that not everyone needs to go to a 4 year university. That's the typical and standard mindset of most people, that you have to go to college. Especially when, starting in their junior year of high school, kids get asked on a weekly basis where they want to go. Or tell them that it's time to start looking at college choices. A high percentage of kids would benefit more from a 2 year community college or trade school that focuses more on the career path they want. Or, as mentioned in this bit, some can go straight into the work force and get on the job training. They end up working along side of people with a 4 year degree making the same amount of money or even more than them.
New Mexico has free tuition for residents in State and Community Colleges for many degrees and certifications, paid for by a tax on oil and gas production, the State Lottery pays for Scholarships for other degrees. Make College free, rather than dismiss it. Many jobs require degrees and job site algorithms will discard applicants without it. Make College Free Again!
Let's call it Utopia so it doesn't seem out of place to have all the employees live next to the factory... Nice suburban homes instead of barracks, but who's kidding who?
I love John McWhorter. I have so much reverence for him after watching The Great Courses from the teaching company lecture called Language Families of the world. He’s so brilliant and funny with his stories and his personal exuberance for what he’s teaching that I was captivated through all 36 lectures = to 18 hrs of just him talking. I’d love to see him on more media and get more exposure.
problem with great courses is none of it counts as credit toward a college degree. It is a a great adjunct to university education but not a substitute.
One of Bill's best episodes imo, everyone had legit takes and were allowed to express themselves without too much one-upmanship .. sorry, one-up-personship. David Byrne was a treat
Many Gen Z and younger millennials have discovered Johnny Carson thanks to CZcams. This Gen Xer stayed up late at night as a kid to watch Johnny and I am nowhere near 75. He was the best.
And, people, this place was FDIC insured, so most little folks have all their funds on Monday. The speed at which this bank was taken over (and on a fuckin' Friday, again) is what is disturbing. They certainly don't want to hear the word 'contagion' this weekend. But, what does it really matter. It just furthers to prove that our fiat economic system is a ticking time bomb. And, fortunately, the people with the most to lose are the fuckin' fat cats so who gives a fuck about them? They broke the economy. My conscience is clean. So, I will only cry when innocent people start losing their jobs again, which is probably going to be announced NEXT Friday! ;)
Josh got it all wrong about SVB, this was just published by the NYT: "After a day of frantic speculation about the extent of Circle’s exposure, the company revealed late Friday that $3.3 billion of its $40 billion reserves remained at Silicon Valley Bank. “Wires initiated on Thursday to remove balances were not yet processed,” Circle said in a statement on Twitter. Unlike other volatile cryptocurrencies, stablecoins are supposed to stay pegged at a price of $1. The uncertainty around Circle caused the price of its popular stablecoin, USDC, to plummet below $1 during trading on Friday and Saturday, raising fears of another crypto industry meltdown. On Friday evening, the giant crypto exchange Coinbase halted conversions between USDC and U.S. dollars, citing the volatility in the market."
Funny. In business, or as a societal value, it is the difference between being on fair ground with all other citizens/employees vs being an owned share of it. I am a big fan of equality.
nuclear is actually quite safe compared to other forms of energy production seems counter intuitive, but its just more dramatic so stands out in our minds like air travel vs car
Was looking for a comment about this. Nuclear is the most effective and carbon clean energy source we have right now. While gain of function research its debated if it has any benefits at all.
and the comparison with gain of function research is even more apt when you understand exactly how safe nuclear is, these things are used like a bogeyman to scare people into being illogical and Bill is falling for it big time 😕
"Don't need college for the arts." Well, maybe. But if you want a career in opera, for instance, you need to learn not only how to sing, but you also need to acquire at least a functional understanding of Italian, German, and French, and maybe Russian. If you don't know anything about music theory or music history, you can still get by, but it will be more difficult. It's probably increasingly possible to get all that skill outside of academia, but in an academic institution, you have access to all that education in one place, plus you get firsthand knowledge of the business from professors who have performing careers, plus you build connections, plus you get the experience of singing actual roles onstage, performing recitals for others who know the repertoire, etc. It's not just a matter of "you either have it or your don't." Acquiring skills requires more than just raw talent.
I can understand language being an Academic study but not Opera or singing. Those are more geared to an individual pursuit of career. Lots of careers are furthered by language study.
I always watch overtime first to see if the guests are engaging and if the host is properly medicated (neither over nor under, but just right). This looks like a good one.
Thanks to really poor higher education leadership and regency boards, universities have little to do with education and learning, and more about "come stay with us for 4 years for THE EXPERIENCE!" College campuses have become these very expensive sports/amusement park-like businesses where young people enjoy greek life, sporting events, partying, and getting away from parents, but have major anxiety when it comes to their studies and are triggered by anything and everything discussed in the classroom. Colleges today are crafting alumni (ie tribes) to solicit money from for generations. It's about 1/8 learning and preparing for a profession, and about 7/8 all the other stuff.
Exactly! And that the first year and a half of classes in the 4 year universities are the 100 level prerequisite courses that are just a repeat of high school. I remember my freshman year, and it was just ridiculous. My speech class was no different whatsoever from high school. I was in calculus in high school but had to take some basic math course in college because "it was a requirement for all students". It was a complete waste of time and money.
@@jeffs6090 well yhen I'm sure you're in favor of paying appropriate taxes so K-12 education is improved and meaningful. But somehow these anti-college folks are never for that.
@@jeffs6090 The gen ed classes and even some specific major classes pays for grad students and grad faculty. The undergrad level has a plethora of general classes that everyone takes and you can only do so in a section of 500 students, and 1 faculty teaching it, so the Master's and PhD level classes can have 3-5 students, and that same 1 faculty teaching. The undergrad level covers the expenses of the grad levels. For awhile undergrad majors kept increasing in required credits (so universities could make more money), but students got tired of going 5-6 years and paying for 135 credits for 1 degree. So most scaled back to 120-124 credits for an undergrad degree. But then universities started offering minors. For an extra 18-20 credits you can complete a major and a minor!!! Universities are for profit businesses with not-for-profit tax status. They are just as savvy at making a buck as corporations are. It's a neoliberal mindset, which believes anything and everything can be commoditized and sold.
Exactly. When I started out as a professor in the 1980s, most of the faculty in universities where I conducted research and taught were tenured, full-time professors. Today, qualified academics and scholars are in the minority. It's becoming the all-administrative university where, as you say, the majority of admin staff are selling "experiential" programs. Where you pay to sign up for a summer on the French Riviera and the only required reading is the Guide Book. It's worse in some of the social sciences--where the majority of part-time adjunct faculty come up with a gimmick like a sociology program in Crime Scene Investigation--and the only disciplines CSI tend to hire from are predominantly Chemistry and Psychology.
High School is supposed to prepare you for college and yet colleges force students to pay so much money for 2 years of prerequisites before starting your higher education for the field you are actually interested in. That is so damn backwards and a crime given the insane prices they charge
In the main show, I loved John’s explanation of “equity”! It was well articulated and honest, even to the degree that he acknowledged that he experienced preferential treatment when he may not have explicitly deserved it.
@@basicstickfigure1087 And that sounds great to me. Because unfortunately, grifters and narcicists will inevitably take communism and twist it into a dictatprship. True communism is probably not possible under human leadership unless somehow everyone was equally intelligent so no one would be fooled into authoritarianism. Equity on a smaller scale is at least from the bottom up and grass roots (granted, it then requires the government to actually agree and act but oh well that’s the world we live in)
@@basicstickfigure1087 Equity is already a part of our lives, after all. Think of all the amenities you and i enjoy despite not knowing every trade, every craft, and every skill. The whole point of society at all is that we cover eachother’s weaknesses. One guy farms, another guy paves roads, and neither of them have to learn both in order to benefit from both
I found his definition of “equity” lacking and hard to follow. Equity is “equality or outcome,” which is distinct for “equality or opportunity.” He used “weasel” to define equity three times. I’m rather surprised he didn’t know the definition because he is a linguist, and has also spent time with Jordan Peterson.
I see you mentioned our new governor in your monolog. Her new child labour bill with little thought or concern for their safety. Sadly that isn't even the worst bill she signed this week.
University is about learning critical thinking. You have the rest of your life to be stuck doing the practical work-related stuff. You don't want to become one of those people who say, "I've done my own research", and you just know they couldn't tell a reliable source of information from complete nonsense. There is great value in university. You don't have to go to be successful for sure, but it shouldn't be under-valued either.
@@RiotNrrrdUTube Yeah exactly, we had a similar thing in Holland, mostly focused on Maroc guys to join the police force (they are/were the most problematic demographic here). I think we just called it positive discrimination, they didn't really try to conceal it.
Not to mention all the companies that demand a clean credit and background report in addition to some form of college education for jobs that only pay minimum wage.
Loved the banter and chemistry between Bill John and Josh. Is it my Empathic radar flashing or Did Bill look a little disappointed that David Byrne was not there for the Overtime segment?
Here in Quebec, Canada, we have what is called CEGEP, a system for FREE pre-college college: high school is finished by grade 11, and after you can go to CEGEP (in English it translates to General and Professional Teaching College). It gives you access to all kinds of non-university options, like technical skills used for operating x-ray machines, etc. It is a great way to get a post secondary education.
In all honesty Quebec may now have the best educational system in Canada. Here in Ontario the schools seem to have forgotten that education is the aim.
@@BizznessBox This is the absolute opposite of the truth. I went to trade school to be an airplane mechanic, got a job right away in aerospace manufacturing and made 80k right off the bat. This was 15 years ago. 6 figures is the norm now. I know airline mechanics make $150k base pay with unlimited OT. My neighbor is an electrical lineman and he pulls in $120k with minimal OT.
What's weird to me is what they now lock up in stores. I live just outside of NYC in Yonkers, NY. I work in NYC, and the typical things will be locked in CVS, Walgreens, etc. - things like cosmetics and cold medicine. These are small items (easily concealed) with a high value. But in Yonkers at my local CVS, they started locking up the booze. It seemed strange that someone would attempt to steal a 12-pack of Coors light vs. a few tubes of Mascara that are easily slipped into one's pocket at $13 each, but sure? But then, the last time I went in, I moved past the beer in the coolers to the ice cream in the freezers... and those were locked! Are people really now resorting to swiping Ben & Jerry's?!
This 100%. I know these guys are anti-college AND that college is way overpriced, but going to a reasonable state school for a highly technical degree is still not only just worth it, but also a REQUIREMENT for many fields. Imagine putting on your resume that you watched CZcams videos and expecting to get a job.
@@curbozerboomer1773 I agree! I know he reduced the panel size during Covid, but I don't know why he hadn't reverted to the old format yet. Maybe a good question for the after-show.
Although her political views are often classified as conservative or libertarian, Rand preferred the term "radical for capitalism". She worked with conservatives on political projects, but disagreed with them over issues such as religion and ethics. Rand denounced libertarianism, which she associated with anarchism.
Love John McWhorter as a panelist! He is great on your show! Hope to see more of him.
One thing they failed to mention: When you put in self-checkout, "lay off" your cashiers, cut your staff to the bone, and end up with nine underpaid employees in a 250,000 sq. ft. store, you're not going to stop shoplifters.
My supermarket has done this. I never use it. Along with the other refuseniks, I line up to deal with the human cashier. Once they’re gone, I won’t visit the store.
Yeah way to distract from the main issue of rising crime due to leftist district attorneys. Best way to stop shop lifters is punishment not more employees
You hit the nail right on the head there. And having one person watch 8 or 9 people at the self checkout is ridiculous.
No shit
Dont worry ... R- lead states are introducing new child labor laws. Thanks to outdated federal mandates it only requires companies to pay $4.50 hr for the first 90 days of employment. I'm sure Walmart will take advantage of this and hire disinterested teens to fill checker positions.
Hands down, John McWhorter is one of my favorite intellectuals.
Dude who cares you're getting blamed for supporting the people who launched it
@kuru K I don't care if God's launching missiles. I'm in the black hills and I know where a cave is that hides under 500 ft of granite. The old days are back baby
John McWhorter has great chemistry with Bill and makes this a joy to watch.
you can tell they like each other
Seems like a cool guy.
Better than that asshole Thomas Sowell.
Smart guys.
One of the best guests I've seen in a while. Calm, collected, succinct. And lowkey funny af.
Stop telling the students to not go to college and start telling the corporations that employees typically don't need college to be successful in your company.
Yes... thank you! If employers don't lower their requirements, how can people get jobs without the degree.
@@kathydb613 Yup. For example, neither of my kids actually finished college, both of them are now knocking it out of the park in their fields. One kid is making about 3X what I make and the other is making just under 4X what I make and I'm not exactly making minimum wage. They were given the chance and both are doing better than most in their companies. Both are now directors where they are. Education doesn't always translate to intelligence as we're seeing every day in politics. Sometimes people just need a chance and maybe we need to figure out a better way of judging how you determine if someone should get a chance. Degrees don't tell you nearly enough of what you need to know about the potential employee.
I remember my wife telling me about one of her workers bragging about his mba every time he was called to the carpet for making screw-ups. It always went the same way, you screwed up and put the company in jeopardy, he brings up his mba, she'd have to remind him that his peers without mba's aren't screwing up and his clients don't care about his mba and neither did she. What she cared about were results and no screw ups. Long story short, he got the message after repeated warnings, resigned and everyone in his department sighed with relief. My wife puts very little weight on post secondary education because she's seen that some of her best workers over the years only had a high school education and are now doing better than she is. She hires people on contract for whatever amount of time when there's an opening, if they work out, she offers full time, if it doesn't, when the contract expires, she lets them go, no hard feelings as they were never hired full time to begin with.
jobs need to stop requiring 10-20 years of experience for entry level jobs
If students stop going to college employers will lower their demands for employment. That's a given and it's already happening.
With a note from this vid..a better education quality in high school
This episode brought out more smiles and laughter from John McWhorter, and what an infectious smile he has :)
one of the best guests Maher ever has.
The dude is a national treasure!
Love McWhorter. He's great on Glenn lowry's pod cast. Recommend the time when Lowry goes off about Ibram X Kendi and John McWhorter can't stop laughing. When McWhorter laughs the world smiles. Plus Lowry is priceless on Kendi, lol.
Also love, love John McWhorter. I noticed his smile too😊
completely agree
John is a voice that’s needed heard by everyone.
Only for white people.
Why?
I loved it when 'Overtime' was on CZcams right after 'Real Time', not the next day. Please bring it back to Friday night. Bill Maher and all the staff at 'Real Time' do such an amazing job. Thank you for keeping us informed and the laughter (laughter is so good for our health). Much thanks! 🇨🇦
Since its moved to CNN it’s gotten more corrupted by the propagandists spinning the message
That lady in the background is having the time of her life
Omg! The entire show I kept thinking "who brought in that sqeaky dog toy?"!
just said the same thing but guess i'll delete it since you beat me to it lol
This is a prime example of the old saying, "Don't drunk and do Bill!"
@@BizznessBox I'd rather be a Laughter Therapist 😃
I found myself muting the TV after many jokes. She was a nightmare.
wow the lady laughing screechinly was having the best time!!!
She is a plant I call her the Hyena. There is a guy every week who whoops all the time, I believe the Hyena and the guy are hired. Maher has said he now keeps a smaller more enthusiastic audience and has eliminated what he called "the moaners". He has in a way "cancelled' a segment of his audience which is an issue he whines about (cancelling) all the time. Bill has become somewhat of a hypocrite.
🤣🤣🤣
It was Kamala Harris ….
@@BizznessBox more likely she's an intern.
You mean the plant?
Both of these guests were very insightful and bounced off Bill in a great way. Bring them back more often
I LOVE John McWhorter. What a great mind
Thanks Bill. For me, this was joy and a relief to have such exceptional guests on your panel as John McWhorter and Josh Tyrangiel. Both gentlemen who, in addition to having a stimulating discussion about linguistics and how colleges have become just another business for selling loans--know enough about interpersonal communication to respectfully and appropriately take turns speaking. It's a relief to return to another fine dialogue after recent episodes where politicians and bloggers shout impolitely and interrupt everyone else.
Yes, yes, yes! ^^that^^
I enjoyed Russell
Here Here!!
This episode is literally three people patting themselves on the back and having no diverse monologue
So true! I enjoyed this episode a lot.
In their discussion of college, they failed to mention TRADE SCHOOLS. Those still exist, and for the right people can often be the perfect fit to place them in a productive career path, often in a short time. More high schoolers need exposure to trade skills and we need Shop Classes and Secretarial Courses brought back to junior high school.
John McWhorter mentioned many children should go to trade schools after high school. Listen again.
Yes indeed
They've mentioned trade schools many times in the past, particularly when Bernie was on a couple of weeks ago. He specifically included trade skills in his proposal of free college educations, etc.
Trade schools are typically part of community colleges. People tend to forget that.
Shop and Home Economics should never have been removed.
Both guests SO eloquent. True wordsmiths! ❤
This was a rare, informative episode, the two guests were insightful.
No they weren’t
Did we notice how they ignored the fact that the question was about 'liberal cities' and crime? Soon they won't be able to ignore it...
@@terriej123 they each talked like it is 2015. They stated the obvious and showed Selective Amnesia and judging judges passing judgement. 🤷♀️😵💫
Love John. Bring him
Back more often. He’s one of the best guests ever.
Remember it was a conspiracy that it was a lab leak ..the woke weaklings are not happy 😂
Yes. And talk about CRT ideology why it's so bahd for all Americans. He has many videos about this. Even has some good things to say about it, but not much.
What’s so great about John?
Love McWhorter. Love the guy. Had to see him with Bill. He's great on Glenn Lowry's pod cast too.
Intelligent, intellectual, common sense and rational, all in the same person is refreshing.
Same
I found these guests to be very pleasant and insightful to listen to they didn’t shout down one another or blabber on too long about pointless nothings.
Expanding access to advanced classes in high school, as well as trades, especially in low-income schools, particularly rural schools, would really help.
My son received culinary and hospitality education in high school. He graduated with a certificate and immediately worked on the line in fine dining. He’s now a professional bread baker for a high end grocer, as well as apprenticing as a mushroom farmer. High school is where we need more on offer.
Agree. I still believe in higher edu and what it’s originally about. I benefited immensely from my experience and degree. I do realize not every HS graduate needs to go or will get the same from it. I’m intellectually curious, most people are not and nothing wrong with either way. The diversity of personalities in our species made us very successful.
I like how many of these jobs that require a college education that you can really just teach these kids on the job right out of high school,
@@tedr4526 “child labor laws are ruining this country.”
@@bizonc me too and it’s there for us. I hold two degrees, with a now non-practicing medical license, as well as a biz license unrelated to my degree fields. I keep learning because I passionately want to. My sons both tried college and didn’t enjoy it as I do. They’re both extremely successful in their culinary professions. High school has, in recent years, been treated as preparatory for college; That’s the mistake. It’s should be about the business of creating whole, well-rounded, and capable CITIZENS. $.02
There is a reason so many other countries out pace America in education, they actually teach without being scared to teach.
It's sad that the left wants to teach propaganda instead of real history and they think math is racist.
Agreed! And, in those other countries, the kids are actually parented so that they come to school prepared to learn and behave like something other than wild, entitled animals.
They teach and without trying indoctrinate students to the activist teacher's ideology
@@BishopWalters12 so the US wasn't built on slavery?
Other countries outpace the US in education because we currently do not have unified culture with unified values. We spend more time in the universities debating what SHOULD be taught instead of working more at the ground level with families to establish environments that encourage and promote learning in the home. The time kids spend on campus mean nothing if their education is not also stratified in the home. The children that excel in American education are from communities that already place a high value on it such as Chinese, Indian, and Hispanic.
McWhorter is a national treasure. He is spot on with college. College is a racket nowadays. Not every degree should be a 4 year degree. A bachelors should be adjusted to what specialty you are going to go into. Until they make those adjustments, kids coming out of high school should go to trade schools and/or community college.
I first heard him on The Great Courses lecture series on linguistics. Didn't even know he was black until 2020.
Problem is most high level jobs, CEO suite, BoD board seats for companies often require a 4 year degree at the very least.
@@Bradgilliswhammyman True for now. But if our society would change its views around 4-year degrees then things will change in the future. Having a 4-year degree doesn't make a person smarter, more experienced, or better equipped to tackle a job. It just shows that they paid some school a lot of money for a piece of paper. And that is coming from someone with a degree.
tell me you have no respect for academia without telling me
@@kitcoffey7194 LOL! No I don't have much respect for the garbage that is going on, on a lot of campuses today. Tell me you look down about trade jobs without tell me.
Jim Jones had an idea of Utopia once....
Didn't David Kirish (?) have that same idea?
Run if he makes The Kool Aid
Yeah this is such a crock of shit. They are building a new town for employees for Space X Tesla Boring Company, not a utopia. It's not Disneyland or an experimental commune or anything like that. It's just a town, people are just being hyperbolic coz it's MUSK and he is the baddie in their book. Sensationalism.
I heard his kool-aid drinks are to die for..
The problem is...everyone's idea of Utopia is different.
John mcwhorter is great!
I’ve lived all over the country. St. Louis, San Francisco, Orlando, New York City and now live in Portland. It amazes me how much crap Portland gets for being “scary” or “crime filled”. It’s pretty bad when it comes to the homeless but not much worse than any of the other cities I’ve lived in and traveled to in the US these days and when it comes to crime sure there are plenty of petty crimes but not much violence. I’d be way more afraid to visit downtown St. Louis and 100 other rust belt to southern cities than Portland.
If people care about the homeless so much they can open their home to them
Those places all have a fraction of St. Louis' 44.6% black population. Just saying.
So who is stealing all the stuff from WalMart? The homeless?
Agreed. We were there to scout it for a conference last fall and it was mostly great. The downtown had streets so clean you could eat off them. 23rd Avenue was was one of the most charming shopping streets I’ve ever seen. The cocktail lounges along East Burnside were great. The Japanese garden was beautiful. Yup, I saw some homeless people and I’m sure there’s crime. Just like every other city. Oh well.
@@cvsisinthehouse Probably the same as in SF. Homeless and organized crime rings.
I had not known Josh Tyrangiel. He came off quite sensibly in this interview.
The last show was so good, Bill up stepped to a higher intellectual level in ALL on the panel.
Well educated liberals talking about how their own policies are messing the country up. College money well spent.
The last show blew chunks; this one, however, was a welcome return-to-form.
Loved the "word" conversation you had about :35 minutes in. John McWhorter is brilliant a real wordsmith
These were great guests! Very smart.
If Walmart is so concerned about security, they should bring back cashiers who ring up & bag your stuff!
The problem is, not all students want to be labourers (nothing wrong with that - one son and my husband operate heavy equipment) but what about the person who wants to learn history to eventually teach? My youngest son comes home from uni everyday and I ask him what he learned that day. Invariably, what he has covered in class are topics about which he already has great knowledge. I asked him about that and his response - “I don’t need to learn this stuff…I already know it. I need the degree to be able to do what I want in my life.”
They had little time to go into details on the show but there are many ways to approach schooling. 2 years for a history degree is sufficient, for a master's or PhD make it 3-4. You don't need 2 years of general Ed courses and it can be done semi remote or completely remote. I'm doing a master's right now completely remote.
The point is the current, 4 year university system is not necessary. Some subjects can be learned on the job, online, in trade school, and yes some need formal schooling. But there is a lot of fat to trim.
What these men are saying isn't all wrong but what I find alarming is that all of these men have a sphere of influence and Bill in particular keeps on harping on this topic pretty much every show, so are any of them mentoring someone in their field? On one hand Bill keeps saying people are stupid and that the education system isn't working and then turns around and say the colleges are useless. For these men to say that kids are getting smart by not going to college is rich. Is going to a college for everyone of course not. Do we want Doctors learning from CZcams, or lawyers, engineers, scientist etc. ? What these men are doing is irresponsible and spreading misinformation on top of it.
@@magicmarker7047 today’s world isn’t the same as it was when you could almost any job with a high school diploma.
@@magicmarker7047 Nope, you don't want your Amazon drivers, factory workers, HVAC technicians et al being told that they *have* to get a four year degree to have a career, which is the inverse of your Doctors from CZcams bit. Of course *some* people need four (or more) year degrees. It's been pushed for decades that you must have a degree to make money and it's not true. People that go to tech schools for a year or two start their careers, work their way up, and have houses and cars and families while some of the kids who got sold on four years of University for $300k (or whatever obscene amount it is right now) will most likely be far behind, paying off that debt, and might catch up in their 50's.. maybe.
No one is saying four year degrees don't have any value. They are saying they are not *required*, which is what I was taught in the 80's.
@@dreamcoyote I have never thought that Amazon drivers, factory workers needed to have a college degree to do those kinds of jobs, they come under the heading of unskilled jobs. Of course we need technical schools as a step down from colleges. For those that have zero desire or ambition can then all become CZcams influencers because that seems to be the trend, but that then opens it up to nothing but rich kids getting an education which then causes the rich to stay rich and the poor stay poor. The power lever stays the same because people like this panel don't want anyone to rise above their ignorant station. If people expect nothing from their society they will get nothing. How many times has Bill stated that the GenZ are not very motivated.
Great episode, awesome panel and David Byrne is a joy! Can't stay awake to finish watching the movie, but I hope he wins another academy award.
all I see now at walmart is employees standing around watching you do their job
“I’ve always loved Portland”
I wanna hear Bill’s impression when he gets back
Same. I just moved from Portland to Pittsburgh. Very 😊 happy about my decision.
Best episode in a little while now, great dialogue between the panel and the entire episode felt like how real time should aspire to be on a regular basis
Amen! ❤
What was so great about it?
@@terriej123 Three respectable people having a civil and productive conversation. Nobody looking to “one-up” one another. Everyone dropping their egos at the door.
I preferred last week’s episode with the MSNBC guy, Russell Brand, and Bernie Sanders
Any story about Walmart shutting down is a good story. F Walmart
We should all be supporting more co-op stores. I shop largely at Winco for that reason.
Yes!...Walmart is mute testimony to the ingrained CEO gets all the money ethics rampant in our country today.
Good show last night - one of the better ones
Wal-Mart sucks. The whole self check out nonsense has to stop! Every time I'm forced into it, I ask an employee when the staff party is. If I have to do the work, I want some perks!
Yea I find all kinds of shit I didn't pay for but I am getting Better ....
In the US, college is a racket. Unless your goal is something that requires a high degree such as doctor, lawyer, etc. Just learn the job you want to do and DO it. My generation got suckered into believing you can’t get any job without a college degree, and for a while it was true. In the early 2000s I was an office manager and to hire for a receptionist job, for $9 an hour they wanted at minimum, an associates degree. Like, they won’t let you answer their phones until you go at least $10,000 in debt. It’s BS.
I really hope businesses aren’t requiring college degrees for menial, mindless work anymore.
Yes. I remember always seeing this and thinking it too. Capitalism is the new form of slavery.
@@jimbaker5110If you think capitalism is the new form of slavery, wait until you try communism.
Unless you are going into major sciences or something like law where it takes a decade to learn everything, 1-2 yr secondary schools for business, technology, specialized labor, mechanics, plumbing, electrical, carpentry, etc, should be readily available. Vocational high schools and 1-2 yr secondary programs are fantastic. They have been defended and faced out all over the County. They need to be reinforced and promoted and employers, even high tech, should be supporting them. They used to be tge backbone of the middle class and need to be again.
It was the Democrats that shipped the blue collar jobs overseas. I'll always remember that.
@@basicstickfigure1087 Manufacturing is only one of MANY types of blue collar jobs. So your statement is only partially correct. And recently….we are doing the opposite of Globalization….so many of those manufactured jobs are starting to come back
I live in Portland. Our crime is no worse than any other mid-sized city in the nation. 29 Walmart stores recently closed in Texas, for example.
Finally, a genuinely good episode of Real Time! have seen one of these in a LONG time!
Portland is not as bad as the media makes you think. I live in a suburb of Portland and go there a lot. According to local reporting, the Walmart closures were more likely due to low sales. Why didn't the media pick up the stories when Walmarts closed in Texas? Crime and homelessness is a problem across the country.
I have such an intellectual crush on John - what a voice, smile, sense of humor...
Really appreciate the discussion on education and the myth of the college panacea...
Damn, I really wish David Byrne stayed for Overtime.
Why?
I was like, yeah, but I'm sure David had better things to do. I guess he probably doesn't smoke pot though, because he definitely would've been hanging around otherwise.
Naw...he seemed have some trouble articulating his way during that interview. Past his prime, for sure!
Never heard of these guests but I absolutely loved them! So polite discussions were very on point!
I love what Josh said about "Don't ever go to film school. Watch youtube." I found that to be the case when the pandemic began and things shut down and moved online. I had been doing stand-up comedy and poetry at open mic nights, but around 6 months to a year in, I decided to look into acting, screenwriting, making short films and found all these resources through youtube channels, facebook groups, webinars, film challenges and I learned so much online for free than I ever did taking film 100 or theater 100.
I live in Portland. It has developed some problems since I moved here 20 years ago. But devastated? Not quite. Rest assured, I can still get shaving cream without calling for security.
Yes that response about Portland was very dramatic. It’s got issues but that guy was exaggerating greatly.
I think you just got used to this shit (literally). When I lived in Seattle 20 years ago, I would not imagine an RV parked near my house, cooking meth, having sewage pumped every week, and Nothing I can do as a home owner. And now - this is Actually happening. Crazy people shouting at people walking by, tent towns, feces on the street. Yes, it's not Aleppo, not literally devastated, but devastation of the minds is obvious and evident.
You're the proverbial frog in the slowly boiling pot. I live here too and have seen the changes over the past 35 years. Shootings and murders are 6x what they were in the 2000s. Thousands living in tents or broken down vehicles strewn across the region (there's a solid mile of bumper-to-bumper RVs up on NE 33rd Drive for instance). Garbage and needles everywhere. Post-2020 police force reduced by 200 officers so there's slow response and often no investigation/mitigation of property crime an average person might encounter. My nice apt complex in SE has had a shooting, a car stolen, (locked) mail room robberies just in 2023 alone. All from outside, all seemingly drug related.
But you are likely to step in human excrement when you walk outside!
To qualify my comment, I am not at all thrilled with Portland. I am a regular guy with a house and a rental property. Now I am selling my rental because the laws make owning a rental here ridiculous. Good luck housing advocates - I hope you get your desired outcome (hint, you wont). The place is run by activists that don't appear to have much experience as administrators. It feels like most of them walked out of their protest movement into office. It is filthy in many parts of town and as others have said, crime and drugs are on the rise. It kinda sucks here now. But, it is not true that everything is locked behind glass when shopping. I have lived in total hell holes a lot worse than Portland, even if this place is circling the drain.
Working 16 hour days for Elon does not sound like utopian to me .
I wouldn’t trust working for him and living in a house he built. I’d feel that the walls would have ears.
Or being forced to bunk at work.
@@LlyleHunter wow, how misinforemed are you, thats astonishing
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl who WOULD want to work for an Aparteid Nepo baby?
You would rather work for bill gates. We know
Great show Bill,I learned a lot!
John McWhorter is so freakin' funny as well as brilliant. What would you call him? Sardonic? I liked the other guy too; his take on things is really close with McWhorter's and also very intelligent. This has been one of the best collection of guests in a long, long time.
Really great panel last night! Compared to how frustrating the last few have been, this one was very wise, not to mention McWhorter is a treasure!
This was the best Real Time group ever! Bravo.
@tetmeo-yq3sj Pardon?
Yes... I remember when Littlefeather made her debut in 1973 to receive Brando's Oscar, but my favorite was 1977's Best supporting actress for Julia, Vanessa Redgrave's speech defending Palestinians, even as most in the audience booed her non-stop forcing her off the stage. Now that was brave!
I love John. He’s so no nonsense.😊
The Walmarts in Portland are not anywhere near the city center and it is false that they are closing because of shoplifting. They're closing because they're not doing enough business.
They overlook the advanced education needs of those like engineers and research scientists when they dismiss college out-of-hand. For those careers, it is necessary. And those careers are necessary for a functional society.
Well that kind of goes with out saying. They and no one else in their right mind thinks let’s say a doctor can learn to be one from on the job training or CZcams.
@@richardlug6139 To say college is unnecessary is a sweeping statement, first of all. It covers everything. But most importantly, it's not just necessary for doctors and engineers. Graphic artists, for instance. You'll need at least a 2 year degree to get into that industry. Unless you're misinformed that college isn't necessary, then you just don't get in. Same for Social Work, Information Technologies and FBI Agent. There's a litany of careers out there you can't have without a degree, and it's short-sighted to suggest otherwise.
How many people become engineers or research scientists most get a degree in basket weaving and 20 years of debt.
They definitely don't overlook that. He always says that there are many professions that benefit and require a college education. The argument specifies that not everyone needs to go to a 4 year university. That's the typical and standard mindset of most people, that you have to go to college. Especially when, starting in their junior year of high school, kids get asked on a weekly basis where they want to go. Or tell them that it's time to start looking at college choices.
A high percentage of kids would benefit more from a 2 year community college or trade school that focuses more on the career path they want. Or, as mentioned in this bit, some can go straight into the work force and get on the job training. They end up working along side of people with a 4 year degree making the same amount of money or even more than them.
New Mexico has free tuition for residents in State and Community Colleges for many degrees and certifications, paid for by a tax on oil and gas production, the State Lottery pays for Scholarships for other degrees. Make College free, rather than dismiss it. Many jobs require degrees and job site algorithms will discard applicants without it. Make College Free Again!
Let's call it Utopia so it doesn't seem out of place to have all the employees live next to the factory... Nice suburban homes instead of barracks, but who's kidding who?
I started reading John McWhorter books after this show. Thanks, Bill!
Me too! I'm tracking the delivery on amazon and peeking into the mailbox five times a day. Can't wait.
2:31: As a born and raised former resident of the Lehigh Valley, I couldn’t agree more.
I love John McWhorter. I have so much reverence for him after watching The Great Courses from the teaching company lecture called Language Families of the world. He’s so brilliant and funny with his stories and his personal exuberance for what he’s teaching that I was captivated through all 36 lectures = to 18 hrs of just him talking. I’d love to see him on more media and get more exposure.
problem with great courses is none of it counts as credit toward a college degree. It is a a great adjunct to university education but not a substitute.
I've loved reading two of McWhorter's books, and love the Great Courses. Didn't know he had one! Thank you.
@@winstonplatt7354 Yes he’s got 2 on language and they’re great. I’ll have to check out his books!
This episode was really funny 😄
Love John! He‘s got a great attitude on most things.
John Mcworther is exceptionally sharp witted
Portland doesn't shop at Walmart. Wondering if these guys have even been to Portland.
Bill has knowledgeable guests. I like that. I learn.
It bugs me how often conjecture is treated as fact on this show.
One of Bill's best episodes imo, everyone had legit takes and were allowed to express themselves without too much one-upmanship .. sorry, one-up-personship. David Byrne was a treat
This guy was born in the 1990's and i appreciated the Carnac joke. JC was the best of all time.
"Hey, we got a few good years of Johnny...he certainly set the stage for all who came after."
I did appreciate it too, just a little older than you BUT we are by far the exception.
Bill Mahr was born in 1956......
I would like to see an Overtime segment done as Carnac.
Many Gen Z and younger millennials have discovered Johnny Carson thanks to CZcams. This Gen Xer stayed up late at night as a kid to watch Johnny and I am nowhere near 75. He was the best.
I went to college, and graduated, to meet coeds and it worked very well indeed!
this panel was delightful. lot of laughs for this episode.
16th largest bank in the USA and he's calling it a "small bank" and also funny how nobody is talking about the Thiel led bankrun
215 billion on the books makes you a small bank
The sharks are smelling the chum in the water!
And, people, this place was FDIC insured, so most little folks have all their funds on Monday. The speed at which this bank was taken over (and on a fuckin' Friday, again) is what is disturbing. They certainly don't want to hear the word 'contagion' this weekend.
But, what does it really matter. It just furthers to prove that our fiat economic system is a ticking time bomb. And, fortunately, the people with the most to lose are the fuckin' fat cats so who gives a fuck about them?
They broke the economy. My conscience is clean. So, I will only cry when innocent people start losing their jobs again, which is probably going to be announced NEXT Friday! ;)
Josh got it all wrong about SVB, this was just published by the NYT:
"After a day of frantic speculation about the extent of Circle’s exposure, the company revealed late Friday that $3.3 billion of its $40 billion reserves remained at Silicon Valley Bank. “Wires initiated on Thursday to remove balances were not yet processed,” Circle said in a statement on Twitter. Unlike other volatile cryptocurrencies, stablecoins are supposed to stay pegged at a price of $1. The uncertainty around Circle caused the price of its popular stablecoin, USDC, to plummet below $1 during trading on Friday and Saturday, raising fears of another crypto industry meltdown. On Friday evening, the giant crypto exchange Coinbase halted conversions between USDC and U.S. dollars, citing the volatility in the market."
For the love of god, can someone please tell Bill that Equity is ownership share of assets and equality is a state of comparison?
Funny. In business, or as a societal value, it is the difference between being on fair ground with all other citizens/employees vs being an owned share of it. I am a big fan of equality.
These are amazing guests... One of your best shows!
John is an absolute beast
nuclear is actually quite safe compared to other forms of energy production
seems counter intuitive, but its just more dramatic so stands out in our minds
like air travel vs car
Was looking for a comment about this. Nuclear is the most effective and carbon clean energy source we have right now. While gain of function research its debated if it has any benefits at all.
and the comparison with gain of function research is even more apt when you understand exactly how safe nuclear is, these things are used like a bogeyman to scare people into being illogical and Bill is falling for it big time 😕
That lady’s laugh is killing me 😂
Auditioning for one of Bill's paid "Laugher/Applauder" positions.
"Don't need college for the arts." Well, maybe. But if you want a career in opera, for instance, you need to learn not only how to sing, but you also need to acquire at least a functional understanding of Italian, German, and French, and maybe Russian. If you don't know anything about music theory or music history, you can still get by, but it will be more difficult. It's probably increasingly possible to get all that skill outside of academia, but in an academic institution, you have access to all that education in one place, plus you get firsthand knowledge of the business from professors who have performing careers, plus you build connections, plus you get the experience of singing actual roles onstage, performing recitals for others who know the repertoire, etc. It's not just a matter of "you either have it or your don't." Acquiring skills requires more than just raw talent.
Which exposes what frauds Bill and his guests are.
Exactly...
I can understand language being an Academic study but not Opera or singing. Those are more geared to an individual pursuit of career. Lots of careers are furthered by language study.
I always watch overtime first to see if the guests are engaging and if the host is properly medicated (neither over nor under, but just right). This looks like a good one.
Thanks to really poor higher education leadership and regency boards, universities have little to do with education and learning, and more about "come stay with us for 4 years for THE EXPERIENCE!" College campuses have become these very expensive sports/amusement park-like businesses where young people enjoy greek life, sporting events, partying, and getting away from parents, but have major anxiety when it comes to their studies and are triggered by anything and everything discussed in the classroom. Colleges today are crafting alumni (ie tribes) to solicit money from for generations. It's about 1/8 learning and preparing for a profession, and about 7/8 all the other stuff.
Exactly! And that the first year and a half of classes in the 4 year universities are the 100 level prerequisite courses that are just a repeat of high school. I remember my freshman year, and it was just ridiculous. My speech class was no different whatsoever from high school. I was in calculus in high school but had to take some basic math course in college because "it was a requirement for all students". It was a complete waste of time and money.
The experienced was a good thing until CRT ideology took over educational culture.
@@jeffs6090 well yhen I'm sure you're in favor of paying appropriate taxes so K-12 education is improved and meaningful. But somehow these anti-college folks are never for that.
@@jeffs6090 The gen ed classes and even some specific major classes pays for grad students and grad faculty. The undergrad level has a plethora of general classes that everyone takes and you can only do so in a section of 500 students, and 1 faculty teaching it, so the Master's and PhD level classes can have 3-5 students, and that same 1 faculty teaching. The undergrad level covers the expenses of the grad levels. For awhile undergrad majors kept increasing in required credits (so universities could make more money), but students got tired of going 5-6 years and paying for 135 credits for 1 degree. So most scaled back to 120-124 credits for an undergrad degree. But then universities started offering minors. For an extra 18-20 credits you can complete a major and a minor!!! Universities are for profit businesses with not-for-profit tax status. They are just as savvy at making a buck as corporations are. It's a neoliberal mindset, which believes anything and everything can be commoditized and sold.
Exactly. When I started out as a professor in the 1980s, most of the faculty in universities where I conducted research and taught were tenured, full-time professors. Today, qualified academics and scholars are in the minority. It's becoming the all-administrative university where, as you say, the majority of admin staff are selling "experiential" programs. Where you pay to sign up for a summer on the French Riviera and the only required reading is the Guide Book. It's worse in some of the social sciences--where the majority of part-time adjunct faculty come up with a gimmick like a sociology program in Crime Scene Investigation--and the only disciplines CSI tend to hire from are predominantly Chemistry and Psychology.
Hey i am only 54 and I understood the Carnac joke.
Fun show. Loved the David Byrne interview. Guests were right on point ❤
High School is supposed to prepare you for college and yet colleges force students to pay so much money for 2 years of prerequisites before starting your higher education for the field you are actually interested in. That is so damn backwards and a crime given the insane prices they charge
Those prerequisites could be what grade's 13/14 do. That would probably make Public Education feel a bit more valuable for parents, too.
Affordable housing in Austin is an oxymoron
In the main show, I loved John’s explanation of “equity”! It was well articulated and honest, even to the degree that he acknowledged that he experienced preferential treatment when he may not have explicitly deserved it.
Equity is Communism Lite, basically
@@basicstickfigure1087 And that sounds great to me. Because unfortunately, grifters and narcicists will inevitably take communism and twist it into a dictatprship. True communism is probably not possible under human leadership unless somehow everyone was equally intelligent so no one would be fooled into authoritarianism. Equity on a smaller scale is at least from the bottom up and grass roots (granted, it then requires the government to actually agree and act but oh well that’s the world we live in)
@@basicstickfigure1087 Equity is already a part of our lives, after all. Think of all the amenities you and i enjoy despite not knowing every trade, every craft, and every skill. The whole point of society at all is that we cover eachother’s weaknesses. One guy farms, another guy paves roads, and neither of them have to learn both in order to benefit from both
I found his definition of “equity” lacking and hard to follow.
Equity is “equality or outcome,” which is distinct for “equality or opportunity.” He used “weasel” to define equity three times. I’m rather surprised he didn’t know the definition because he is a linguist, and has also spent time with Jordan Peterson.
@@eseguerito2629 you are describing capitalism, not equity.
I see you mentioned our new governor in your monolog. Her new child labour bill with little thought or concern for their safety. Sadly that isn't even the worst bill she signed this week.
Nice show good talent at the desk. Funny Too
University is about learning critical thinking. You have the rest of your life to be stuck doing the practical work-related stuff. You don't want to become one of those people who say, "I've done my own research", and you just know they couldn't tell a reliable source of information from complete nonsense. There is great value in university. You don't have to go to be successful for sure, but it shouldn't be under-valued either.
Great show, and smart to go into the equity thing more, it does help to debunk the many different labels they use to "help" society.
“I’m so old, I remember when ’Equity’ was called ‘Affirmative Action’!”
@@RiotNrrrdUTube Yeah exactly, we had a similar thing in Holland, mostly focused on Maroc guys to join the police force (they are/were the most problematic demographic here).
I think we just called it positive discrimination, they didn't really try to conceal it.
@@Games_and_Music what do you mean my problematic?
I live in Waterloo, Iowa we have a "pudding packing" plant that requires you to have some type of college degree, FOR PACKING PUDDING???!!!
Packing fudge pudding?
Afridgetoofar BWAHAHAHA!!! That is too funny
Not to mention all the companies that demand a clean credit and background report in addition to some form of college education for jobs that only pay minimum wage.
Loved the banter and chemistry between Bill John and Josh. Is it my Empathic radar flashing or Did Bill look a little disappointed that David Byrne was not there for the Overtime segment?
Karnak: Mount Baldy... Mount Baldy
(opens envelope)
Karnak: what did Yul Brynner's wife do on their honeymoon
Miss ya Norm
Love John and his linguistics podcast Lexicon Valley
Here in Quebec, Canada, we have what is called CEGEP, a system for FREE pre-college college: high school is finished by grade 11, and after you can go to CEGEP (in English it translates to General and Professional Teaching College). It gives you access to all kinds of non-university options, like technical skills used for operating x-ray machines, etc. It is a great way to get a post secondary education.
In all honesty Quebec may now have the best educational system in Canada. Here in Ontario the schools seem to have forgotten that education is the aim.
@@BizznessBox
This is the absolute opposite of the truth. I went to trade school to be an airplane mechanic, got a job right away in aerospace manufacturing and made 80k right off the bat. This was 15 years ago. 6 figures is the norm now. I know airline mechanics make $150k base pay with unlimited OT. My neighbor is an electrical lineman and he pulls in $120k with minimal OT.
Great show. One of the best ever.
What's weird to me is what they now lock up in stores. I live just outside of NYC in Yonkers, NY. I work in NYC, and the typical things will be locked in CVS, Walgreens, etc. - things like cosmetics and cold medicine. These are small items (easily concealed) with a high value.
But in Yonkers at my local CVS, they started locking up the booze. It seemed strange that someone would attempt to steal a 12-pack of Coors light vs. a few tubes of Mascara that are easily slipped into one's pocket at $13 each, but sure?
But then, the last time I went in, I moved past the beer in the coolers to the ice cream in the freezers... and those were locked!
Are people really now resorting to swiping Ben & Jerry's?!
Self learning on YT is great but I'd like my doctor to have an actual degree...
This 100%. I know these guys are anti-college AND that college is way overpriced, but going to a reasonable state school for a highly technical degree is still not only just worth it, but also a REQUIREMENT for many fields.
Imagine putting on your resume that you watched CZcams videos and expecting to get a job.
I turn to Bill Maher when I want on old guy to read 2019 Babylon Bee jokes to me
Watching this episode...well I feel as if my IQ points have risen quite a bit. Thanx Bill.
This was the best panel he's had in a long time.
I still say, he needs to get THREE panelists for his show!..He used to do that...what happened?
@@curbozerboomer1773 I agree! I know he reduced the panel size during Covid, but I don't know why he hadn't reverted to the old format yet. Maybe a good question for the after-show.
Same half assed debate
"Utopia" is a popular concept among Ayn Rand libertarians. And who's more in touch with reality than THEY are?
Badum tch
Although her political views are often classified as conservative or libertarian, Rand preferred the term "radical for capitalism". She worked with conservatives on political projects, but disagreed with them over issues such as religion and ethics. Rand denounced libertarianism, which she associated with anarchism.
I think you meant conservatives not libertarians ... ya know... since the gop loved her.
@@notme2day Those semantics all fall in the same alphabet soup. Rigid-minded zealotry divorced from how the real world works.
@@robvangessel3766 True.