The Pathetic Death of Comedy Movies
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Throughout history, comedy was a dominant genre of cinema, shaping culture and creating a shared humour. Today explore the factors leading to its decline, from cultural shifts to global market influences, and ponder the future of comedy films.
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here is a view on it.. comedy is ridiculisation.. mostly of the.. or in expsence of, the ones in power.. we are currently ruled by bolshevics.. you are not allowed to make fun of them.. cause they are the chosen f*ckwits.. so they allready own hollywood thus own the writers.. so only one side is allowed to be ridiculed.. . and "the left" cant meme... i hope this helps you in any way.. \/
Hangover blackjack scene? Saw it 3x don't even remember that besides being a lazy way to continue the story. No Napoleon Dynamite?!
15:19 @JimmyTheGiant complaining that Comedy Movies have to make some Obvious political message. Cut to 16:35 and footage of Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb Make it make sense bruv make it make sense.
@@juanvasquez6535 Yeah but, did Kubrick want to make it that way, or was he told/made to make what he made the way he made it?
@@4Everlast No one tells Kubrick what to do bruh. "Red Alert" alternatively "2 Hours To Doom", the source material, was a similarly subversive anti-nuclear message.
One of the biggest points you missed is the loss in dvd sales. Back in the day a comedy movie could bomb in theatres but still make a profit through dvd sales. Now that they’re gone studios don’t want to take risk on a comedy when they will likely only make profit from its run in theatres. We’re living in an age of convenience and unfortunately it means we lose some of the old stuff.
All movies are impacted by this?
It's left wing politics that did this. Pathetic, sjw, perpetual victims.
Yeah. That makes sense.
Yup, Matt Damon actually talked about this for movies in general on his Hot Ones episode.
Horror movies are very cheap to make, thats why even though they are in abundance. Is investing in a horror film a safer bet than investing in a comedy? What makes comedies so expensive- must be the writers and comedians demanding higher salaries?
@@juniorjames7076 that’s a good point but even with horror movies the low and mid budget ones are gone. Horror movies are also more theatrical so people are more willing to see them in theatres so I could see them being deemed less of a risk then a comedy.
Ricky Gervais roasting a Hollywood in 2020 was the most poignant and honest comedy in the last few years.
It was fucking amazing
I don't think so at all. Hes pretending like hes above and better than it all. And if he actually was. He wouldn't be there lol
@@benardman2665 He was not there as an ally.
@@benardman2665 Ricky was there for two reasons and he made that extremely clear; To point out how hypocritical Hollywood is and because he got paid. He wasn't pretending to be better than anyone, he was telling everyone else to stop acting like they're better than everyone just because they're famous.
Dave Chappelle’s SNL monologue was more recent I think
I think one of the things that is killing comedy movies is the continuing trend of having the actors just ad-libbing rather than having a structured script that tells a coherent story. These ad-lib "comedies" wind up being nothing more than a collection of scenes where the stars are laboring to be funny, like Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly in the abysmal Holmes and Watson, or the dreck that was the 2016 Ghostbusters movie. After a while they all feel the same.
I swear to god the amount of "comedic" scenes that just ended with actors awkwardly trailing off and making a couple of aborted gestures before walking off screen was endemic in the 2010s.
During the writers strike, studio execs having meetings with comedians were talking about how they wanted to produce content with a "message," and that's the thing, not everything needs a message, it just needs to be funny.
That message is white people bad
I heard somewhere that television was only invented to brainwash the masses. Hence turning everything into "a message".
Yet Ricky gervais has a message, and you like him. "It just needs to be funny" to me.
The most funny people in the world who even the most salted figure cracks a smile at..... IS the person who understands the message.
Weird at how you get the message at one point, then not the next. Sounds pretty performative to me. Almost signaling something?
On an episode of hot ones, Matt Damon was talking about why romcoms died and the main reason was they became to risky financially. In the 90/00`s if a romcom didn't profit in the theaters it always made its money back with vhs\dvd\ppv. With the age of Netflix and etc. its basically impossible to have a guarantee profit filming a romcom. So maybe this also applies to the death of comedy movies.
Well Amazon are making a lot of them at the moment aren't they? I don't watch them myself, not my sort of film but I'm subscribed to prime video so I keep getting the adverts.
It's left wing politics that did this. Pathetic, sjw, perpetual victims.
Yeah its funny seeing old classic movies like idiocracy now being found by new generation on streaming movies and they end up liking them
Tbf that was more about mid-budget movies. It's not like we're going to get some blockbuster budget level comedy, but low-budget movies still exist, and many comedies could exist on a low budget considering it's mostly funny people in funny situations saying/doing funny things. You don't need a bunch of special effects or huge set pieces.
Movies like Superbad, Stepbrothers, 40 Year Old Virgin, Borat, etc could all be made on pretty low budgets.
I'm glad the rom-com is dead... complete crap genre...
You made a great point with the super hero movies, Marvel has dialed up the comedy in their films and it sometimes it hurts the tone, like in the last Thor movie, it starts with a child diying in her fathers arms, a somber moment, and then you have screaming goats, a god, Zeus wearing skirts, and then they try to make it seriuos again at the end and it's a mess. And that's the "comedy" we've been getting for the past few years.
And lady thor.
Sometimes is a huge understatement
That’s an interesting perspective on *punching up* vs *punching down* in comedy. Enissa Amani mentioned a performance, wherein a wheelchair-bound woman called her out. The gist of it was, “Hey, you took a crack at every cultural and societal group. How come you left me out?”
@@vids595if anything,what I see are comic fans basically saying "Look how they massacred my girl.",comparing it to the comic "The Mighty Thor"
The Force Awakens: Opening scene where the Sith lord is slaughtering everyone, and the captured pilot is making quips in front of the main villian.
I think theres something to be said about how so many studios have been accquired by huge parent companys that just want to play it safe.
I miss just being able to mindlessly laugh at a movie without having to walk out of a theater thinking about the problems of the world. I watched the newest jackass in theater and I had such a great time haha
But I get it studios don’t want to invest in movies that aren’t going to be a hit, I feel like a lot of people I personally know don’t go to the movies anyways and wait for it to stream.
👀 Hi
they're not investing bcz no one's going to see them. Jackass didn't make that much money. Any time they throw us a bone, the movie tanks
honestly, I could not muster one laugh with the last jackass
Jackass forever is flat out depressing. Sober sad-sack burnouts, dudes in their fifties acting like teenagers, unlikable new dudes I could not care less about, and Dave England literally on the verge of tears with p.t.s.d. from being abused by Knoxville. It was legit sad.
Can’t believe how lucky I was to grow up in the 90s and 00s, so many good comedies … even the bad ones I’m kinda missing
I missed the first for years of the 90s myself, but being born in 94 I still got a great chunk of time in the 90s. Comedies were off the chain back then leading into the 2000s. It was wrestling and comedies for me. Could sit there watching dumb and dumber laughing my ass of for hours on end along with Happy Gilmore
😊
Lol, anybody remember Blankman from the 90s?
Watched a Meh comedy (According to my dad who is a big Gene Wilder fan) , the woman in red. Not his best but the comedy is still brilliant.
Best comedy film of all time Dumb and Dumber!
The '80-s and '90's deserve much more recognition. At least hundred great comedies in each of these decades.
To be fair he’s a 2010s teenager and is doing a critique on comedy films in his lifetime, the ones that came out when he was a teen.
@@jpmnky Yes, you are right. However, if you only have thorough knowledge about a certain period of culture, you're not supposed to judge another, especially if it is literally a golden age of comedy and film making in general. being the 'last period when professionalism absolutely ruled.
You could say that for any decade before the 2010s really. I think he's focusing on the 2000s specifically because it was the last decade before Hollywood started focusing on comedy movies a lot less.
I think the 80's and 90's get mercilessly shoved down our throats enough. I get it with the decline of comedies but fuckshit I need to breathe here
@@mr.awesome6011 You can breathe here but the talk is about laughing now. I can't even fathom who foists old movies upon you. Anyway, who cares when they were made if they are good?
I think another reason comedy ended up in its current state is because they are *one-off films,* not exactly the kind of films that could have franchise potential, unless the stars aligned properly; Studios have become so franchise happy, that comedy films no longer became viable for them. In addition, a comedy sequel is hard to try to live up to or top the first film's magic, and you have a comedic actor who is hesitant about repeating themselves by doing a sequel (example Jim Carrey).
Super trooper's
They did a reaction video with Gen Z, it had several movies just like these and they didn't find any of these films funny whatsoever. In fact some called them ageist, misogynist, racist, sexist, bigot, fat phobic and other terms. It's safe to say the new generation will not like this style of humor, sadly. But somehow superhero movies are what they crave.
i’m gen z (born in 2000) most of these movies were literally part of my childhood along with a lot of us it’s like everyone forgets that😂
@@gxldboyj6523exactly I’m guessing it’s everybody born after 2005 who are still teens
Life's going to be fun in the future. These boring depressing losers are going to be in charge one day.
Im a Gen Z and grew up with a lot these movies and their miles better than the whatever they call comedy today and that's coming from a guy with a dry sense of humor😂
Not saying all of Gen-Z but many of them are the most miserable young generation to ever exist.
In his defense, Deadpool has been breaking the forth wall since Deadpool #28 (1997). Being self aware was simply true to character.
Yeah, if anything the tonal shift really came from Guardians of the Galaxy which was two years before the deadpool movie, hell even ant man was a year before deadpool.
Errrm Ackshually ☝🤓
He pointed that
I had the same thought when he brought up ol deadpool
@@ghostinplainsight4803 There's something that needs to die. Having something to add to the conversation doesn't make you a contrarian nerd.
I think another aspect, not mentioned here, is the fact that the younger generations are now getting the majority of their comedy directly from on-line platforms like CZcams, Tictok, etc. Unlike older generations, like Millennias, Gen-X and Boomers, they're not tied to film and TV for media consumption which, of course, includes comedies.
That's what I was thinking. When I think of comedy from the 2020s and late 2010s, I think of CZcams videos. Kids never watch TV and only go to the theater to see superhero movies and animated movies.
Mel Brookes, "Blazing Saddles" and "Young Frankenstein", with Gene Wilder who teamed up with Richard Prior for "Hear no Evil, see no Evil", and then there was John Candy, "Who is Harry Crumb", "Uncle Buck" and who teamed up with Steve Martin for the iconic "Trains, Planes, and Automobiles" who in turn with Micheal Caine for "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" and last but not least, "Christmas Vacation"
Humor has also become ever-increasingly niche since the internet has blossomed.
Back in the 00’s and prior, we referenced funny tv/movie scenes to each other. McLovin, Chappelle’s Show, Harold & Kumar, etc.
Now (especially with Gen Z), humor is extremely internet meme-based. And the lifespan of literally anything on the internet is essentially that of a fly.
Not to mention, Hollywood basically set the trends and culture for young people for such a long time. But now, the internet has claimed that title and Hollywood is desperately (and unsuccessfully) trying to be its lackey.
Comedy movies can still exist, but I wish it didn’t try to appeal to young generations anymore. Like a movie like Dumb and Dumber or Superbad were just trying to tell these super engaging stories in the most comedic-enhancing way possible.
Blazing Saddles and Tropic Thunder. Two of the most politically incorrect and hilarious movies ever.
Hardly the most politically incorrect movies ever
Some examples of more politically incorrect films? Neither movie could be made today, and both were hilarious@@javi__...
Oh it's twuu its twoo😅😅
Bad News Bears probably the most politically incorrect movie I can think of.
Love tropic thunder. Get him to the greek is good too
I think the secret formula behind Will Ferrell’s success was Adam McKay, and when their friendship fizzled, so did Will’s comedy…
Will simply got old. He's 56 now. He can't do all the slapstick or goofy jokes. They come across better when young or middle age but are more sad when old. Unless, it is about a 40-year-old son still living at home with mom.
Is 61 year old Jim Carrey still talking out of his butt?
Did they drag back 90 year old Chevy Chase for the latest Fletch film?
@@joelwillems4081 yeah, I agree that his style worked better when he was a younger guy. I actually think he’s funniest when he goes on talk shows and improvs with the host, whether it’s Fallon or Conan
Let’s face it, Adam Mackay also had benefited from Will Ferrell reigning him in a bit as well. “Willikers! What if terrible people… were TERRIBLE, but it’s a MOVIE?” Is Adam Mackay’s entire filmography post Will Ferrell.
@@joelwillems4081 Why has anyone ever found and Chevy Chase film funny, is beyond me. They're all either simply not funny or just straight up embarrassing.
The fact you had to censor Tropic Thunder and Borat in *this very video* speaks volumes.
Underrated but most telling comment
No one’s allowed to make jokes anymore, people are too scared to risk their careers and life. Plus life is shit and the worlds a bleak place, no one’s laughing anymore
Aaah the 2000s, where morbid things had blue tint, happy things had yellow tint, and artistic things were high dynamic range.
And video games were brown tinted for whatever reason.
And anything based in Mexico was always orange.
@@JustinMcVicar Or yellow, look at Breaking Bad.
I'll take that over the generic color movies we have today.
The weirdest thing to me is Will Ferrell making some of the funniest movies ever, then all of a sudden every movie hes starred in sucks. Step Brothers is still one of my all time favorites.
Same. Talladega Nights was awesome… not much after that
Barbie and the Lego Movie were amazing though
@@jaydenplive1234 Barbie??? Haha ok
@@ionbusman2086 Barbie fucking slapped. Did you even watch it?
I feel this with a lot of the older comedy actors these days. I can't tell if it's just because we became so used to their gags it lost its appeal, or if they've suddenly got worse.
Especially the ones that decided to try and do more serious roles, when they came back to comedy they didn't have that same charm anymore.
As a gay man myself. You have to laugh at yourself. And you can't be offended when you're watching a comedy or in a comedy club. No one is safe and that's what's good about it. The 2000s comedies were peak comedy. The movie "idiocracy" is one if my favorites. And is slowly becoming a documentary. Bridesmaids is funny too. 😂
I prefer the 80s. Try easy money with Rodney
Can't be offended? It's a professional international sport now. Cry bullies out squealing each other for the most amount of smugness points.
@@cincin4515 We should laugh at the cry bullies. The more they cry the more we should mock them and take away their power.
@@unvaxxeddoomerlife6788 LOL, I'm guessing you watch MSNBC.
I could spend hours browsing videos in blockbuster.
I can get through about 5 minutes scrolling through netflix before I turn the computer off and go outside.
Society was better before technology took over.
I think superhero movies basically becoming the new comedies is a really salient point, especially when coupled with the idea that comedy movies were the biggest escapist genre, it really makes sense how superhero movies completely took over that niche. I think the other thing to consider is basically the internet overtook the pace of hollywood comedies. There was a time where most internet comedy and memes were basically just referencing jokes from movies, however around the mid-2010s there was definitely a shift to where now a movie is more likely to reference an internet meme than a meme is to reference a comedy movie. 22 Jump Street is a really good example since it's basically the last case of an internet meme (my name is jeff) originating from a comedy movie.
And for how much longer will people keep watching these superhero movies, I think there is fatigue already
And it’s a shame too, because the Pentagon has been funding marvel for over a century. the movies are just reprints and reprogramming of the same story they told alread. zero creativity just pure, monetization and programming.
@@leob4403I’m tired of superhero movies. Actually it’s been a long time that I can’t take it anymore. Miss those crazy american comedies I used to watch.
@@EricNoneless you won't get them, will Ferrell, Ben stiller and guys like that said they won't do them no more, because critics and the Marvel/DC fanboy mob tear them down so badly and they tank at the box office, and the medias will push so hard for superhero and Disney movies, you won't get anything else. Marvel dad jokes and metaverse pseudo intellectual horse manure is considered the height and natural progression of comedy into more "mature" territories, the nerds and their giant egos have fully taken over the discourse
@@leob4403 yep, that's just sad.
Man the, 2000s comedy movies were peak.
Nah. 80s is superior. Amazon women on the moon and Kentucky fried movie and all the Leslie Nelson stuff along with Mel Brooks.
@@TheMysteryDriverAbsolutely! 80's classics set the standard!!
There are good comedy movies going back to the 1930s. It happened last night and The Whole Town's talking for instance are 2 very enjoyable movies even today. However, many of these early comedy movies are dated and stilted. There are some great highlights throughout the decades, like 1954s The Court Jester that rank among the best comedies ever. Or The Life of Brian and Smokey and the Bandit in the 1970s. What's the Golden Age of Comedy? Probably the 80s that gave us a ton of super entertaining movies like Plains, Trains and Automobiles as well as cheesfests like Red Sonja that were hilarious for all the wrong reasons.
Borat, superbad, hangover god damnit were they funny
This comment is funny, because in England "peak" is often used to describe something as "very bad" lol
You didn’t mention the message within the title “This is the End”. This was arguably the last good comedy of this era which every important comedic actor assembled for, all knowing this would indeed be the end of great comedies.
Love that movie
That movie sucked
@@bond007spectre7 compared to anything that came out after , no it didn’t
@@bond007spectre7 Thanks for taking the time to be so eloquent
that was not a good movie
My thoughts from the thumbnail is that comedy movies became so filled in by frat culture that they have lost what made comedy, comedy. It became about how many expletives you could cram into a few sentences, crotch kicks, and "OMG Hot Chick!"
It's dead in other countries too and we don't even have "frat" movies. It's social politics destroying everything.
I think that is something you and I would disagree with Jimmy on. I actually consider the 2000s as a low point in comedy because of the over saturation of frat boy/pot head movies. I'm not sure if it killed comedy, but it reminds me how the end of civilizations are usually preceded by an era of decadence.
The growth is the growth of a new era, not the death of an old one.
I thought capitalists loved growth? Apparently except when it comes to ethical gain, then it's too much.
But frat comedies were funny as a general rule. American Pie, Road Trip, Old School, Van Wilder, Superbad etc are all classics and not really what the video is about.
Comedy films died because of godawful writing. The reliance on "random" humour and bad improv just wasn't sustainable and it collapsed. It's sad that many comedy writers these days apparently don't know how to craft a joke.
So you're explanation is "everyone stopped being funny at the same time"
@@Rarefied-Air It really is disgusting how dishonest people are. Leftist propaganda ruined entertainment. It's not a secret that propaganda has _never_ made for quality entertainment.
But nope! No, sirree! No leftist propaganda here! No Marxism/anti-capitalism, no environmentalism, no "feminism", no racialism, no homosexualism suddenly mandated in every major movie and video game (and novel).
_It's just bad writing!_ That's all!
I agree. If you look at movies like 'Dumb and Dumber' the characters may be stupid but the writing is brilliant. Even to this day I pick up on little details or gags I have not noticed before. Zoolander is another movie that appears dumb but has really good writing.
@@Rarefied-Air At the same time? No. Over a period of about 10-15 years, until there were none left.
It's more like an entire generation grew up not knowing how to write inherently funny bits. We can probably blame the internet/meme culture for that. The meme is funny because it's a meme. Not because there's anything inherently funny about it. If you don't know the meme, you don't laugh; it only becomes funny because of the repitition and familiarity. So it only appeals to a small subset of people who do know the meme. It's the lowest form of comedy and it doesn't work on screen.
Team America, tropic thunder, dogma, little nicky, four lions, jay and silent bob, the Cornetto trilogy, idiocracy the list could go on 😢
America, fuck yeah!! 😂😂😂
Dude wheres my car is best movie all time
@@TJJ117 "the greatest mathafuckin nation in the worrllddd !! FUCK yeaahhhhh"
Zoolander
I don't get the Kevin Smith Hype. But I love the other movies you mentioned.
I feel like a lot of the problem is it isn’t profitable anymore
Comedy films arent dead. You have MCU films where every character is a stand up comedian
My favourite comedy of all time is "Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story". The perfect parody which Queen then remade as "Bohemian Rhapsody"... High Praise indeed.
I watch that movie at once every two weeks. It's excellent
“You can take the children…but you leave me my monkey”
When a comedy movie costing tens of millions to make is less funny than a CZcams video of an idiot walking around Walmart making fart noises and recording the reactions, you know it’s time to throw in the towel.
I think this is pretty accurate, free content supplanted alot of the entertainment industry
I watched The Nice Guys a few months back and i was surprised at How much laugh out loud moments there Were. I think it really comes down to What the creators of south park say. You have to have a good story and it should consist of ”this happens, therefore this happens, but then this happens”.
Definitely an underrated gem.
I hate to be that guy who points this out, but the rise and fall of Internet humor was also a defining factor. Not only because anyone with a camera could be touted as a comedy star, but also because, in the long run, people began associating comedy with cringey jokes to the point these became synonymous. That's why dramedies took hold in the 2010s as a more sophisticated alternative while most superhero and animated films have filled the void left to some point.
I find the "foreign market" part to be really infuriating. I'm from El Salvador and all those movies you mentioned were massive here and in Latin America in general. Language barriers were not a great issue, ESL audiences still watched and supported the films.
Now, even though more people in these countries speak English, they understand English, they talk English more than ever before - they want to make no effort to consume media in English. It sucks because most of the films nowadays are dubbed, and if a movie doesn't have the budget to be dubbed, it just doesn't hit the theaters and I suspect it's the same in most of LATAM.
If the silver lining of that was that people would consume more national, regional media, then I wouldn't care as much. But the result is that people only watch the same 4-6 Marvel or animated movies all year long. The fucking Minions movie last year was in theaters for 5 months!
El salvador is still really really different from China and Asia though, which is where most of movie profits come from nowadays
@@mrpyro4217 Yeah I can't speak for Asia, but I do think it represents the general LATAM public which is still hundreds of millions.
Did you watch Napoleon Dynamite?
@@MushookieMan I watched Napoleon in middle school, it gained popularity years later because of the cartoon that would air on FX.
And there is another factor, movies now no longer last months in theaters, except for that exception that you mentioned, many recover their investment quickly, and if they don't work they withdraw them, since in a few months or a month they will already be streaming, digital market or pirated.
I also say that the dubbing of Mexico greatly helped the proliferation of many Hollywood comedy films and series (as well as other genres), even making it funnier to latin american audiences, inserting jokes/idioms that worked abroad, some films were trashy but dubbing really helped them, sometimes making it more decent.
I guess if people who donsen't speak english watches some of these shows and films in it's original audio/languague, they wouldn't find it funny, just like it happened when my Mom when watched The Big Bang Theory on english for the first time, Luis Alfonso Mendoza (R. I. P.) did a great job dubbing Sheldon Cooper, even the actress who voiced Bernadette, not everyone can reach those high-pitched tones, even Melissa Rauch would be grateful to hear her voice in spanish since it is the closest to the original.
Of course, due to several reasons, some voice actors could replace others in their characters, which bothers audiences, those 2 characters that I mentioned remained with their respective voice actors from beginning to end.
Thank you for giving “The Death of Stalin” some love. Funniest movie I’ve seen in years. “In the Loop” would be a good addition to your 00’s/early-10’s list.
TDOS was the first movie I thought of when he said no good news then I checked and it was 2017 but that is one of the funniest I have seen and its basically all true!
All entertainment nowadays is purely made for profit and not passion, thats why the indie genre is rising and everything else is falling
I remember someone saying that comedy (at least certain comedy) is rooted in absurdity, and that the reason we don’t find comedy as much is because of how absurd things have gotten. I blame cancel culture for this, but also how divided and remarkably stubborn people and governments have become.
You hit the nail on the head
There are other key factors of why comedies aren't on the big screens any longer:
•Studios tend to release more comedies onto streaming apps/platforms with the idea that people would watch comedies at home than in the theaters.
•Weather seasons:
fall/winter = romance & Oscar nominee dramas run the theaters
spring/summer = action-packed blockbusters run the theaters
•A lot of newer comedians aren't that funny or even known to even carry a movie
•The world has been so niche where we're all aren't watching the same thing
•Comedies keep repeating the same ideas & tropes where they don't seem enjoyable.
Name a comedy from 2020 or newer that was laugh out loud funny
Yeah Tbh those podcasters are boring and most people really don't like straight stand up comedy. I think it's been really reduced to a level below bargain bin for movie studios and streaming.
@@Law2120 bros, doner party, Miguel wants to fight, theater camp. Not great. Honeslty Atlanta season 3 and 4 was funny. Shoresy.
Or mixing genres. Where they just add comedy to... anything. Heroes films gotten too out of hand with that to its detriment at times for example.
Wokeness killed it. Full stop.
Only time Sandler ever made me cry was when his movie was my only option that night.
I'm truly blessed to have lived my youth through the 90s and 00s. I grew up with classic and hilarious comedies and even some funny and scary horror movies like scream 1 and 2. Matthew Lillard gave a once in a lifetime performance with stu macher. He was terrifying and hilarious simultaneously which is extremely difficult and I've never seen someone pull off such a dual performance where each part elevated the other so much. 90s and 00s truly was the golden age of movies in my opinion also with music
I’m technically Early Gen Z (b. 1998) but I agree with you, I pretty much grew up with alot of the same movies & music that later Millennials did. I’m glad I’m not part of the current generation who is growing up during this overly-political age of movies and a pandemic
As a 100% native bilingual, The english language not translating well is 100% true. Even some simple jokes in lets say a marvel film, i read the translation in Korean and its SO OFF. I was the only guy laughing at the theater for some of those jokes.
I think you hit the nail on the head with 22 Jump st being last truly iconic comedy film
What about dirty grandpa
I recently watched a few comedy movies from the 1930s and I was amazed at how funny they actually were, one was the original "Mr Deeds" with Gary Cooper instead of Adam Sandler and I would even say it was better, then "Arsenic and old lace" with Cary Grant and "Bringing up baby" with Katherine Hepburn, If you have any general interest in the past I highly recommend it, just seeing the cars, the clothes, the acting and way they talk is interesting (and most importantly the movies are funny) and in case your wondering I'm 33yo (not 90 lol) but I assure if you can appreciate something from before your own time you'll probably like them
Those are all greats!
Arsenic & Old Lace was a work of genius, and how dark was it? If you want to check some others out, try We're No Angels with Bogart & Harvey with Jimmy Stewart. Both are brilliant
I'm a big fan of the original _Miracle on 34th Street,_ so I'd give these old movies a try. Where are you finding them? Somewhere convenient, I hope.
Its a bit newer than those but you'd love fatso
If you want to go even further back, Buster Keaton has some pretty good comedies. I love "Steamboat Bill Jr." And another good Cary Grant movie is "Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House."
You lost me when said Jim Carrey and the Mask represented the Golden Age of Comedy. That slapstick kitsch was the beginning of the end.
ticket prices have gotten horribly expensive and no one will pay $20+ to see a simple comedy. It needs to be worth the $$$.
Super interesting topic. It is really sad how few funny films are being made today.
You hit the nail on the head about modern examples: they are always making a really obvious point.
They talk about punching up and down, but they just constantly strawman and treat that as comedy.
If you like Seth Rogan, I don't like you
I like you 😃
@@janbonte6422 "Did we just become best friends?"
Remember when you were a kid and you wondered why adults always talked about how everything was better "back in the day"? Well, it looks like that kid grew up.
Right lmfao gen z will do the same and be like damn lmfao
Everyone does it. Actual maturity is realising the moments when we do it and accept that we grew too old.
There's a great episode in the new season of it's always sunny that takes place in a Dave& busters type arcade.
The 40 year old moaning that the arcade has changed and became too pc since they were there, and then frank moaning that it's changed since his day because there's no more racist jokes ..to which the 40 year olds push back on him for being too old etc.
Quality is subjective of course, but there’s actual data showing that there’s way fewer successful comedies being released these days
This is a bit different. I was born in 1966, so logically by the late 90s early 2000s I would say that the movies before were better. I actually didn't think stuff started going downhill until after 2015. In fact my favorite time period to live would be around 2000 to 2010, well after my youth. And many young people also see things as going way down after 2015. There are objective reasons for this.
@@chamboyette853 twas the death of dvd sales. Companies won't make their second revenue from dvd sales so have to play it safe
The last bastions of uncensored comedy is South Park. Trey Parker and Matt Stone are cultural heroes
@DookiePuke69 Yes, it is. They just do movies now, but they're still hilarious.
There was a period in life where it was the only films I watched.
I think it goes even deeper than "we can't be offensive anymore". Comedy is the canary in the coal mine for the current level of sophistication and intelligence of writers. Other genres can distract the audience with loud sounds and lush visual spectacle, but comedy is all in the writing... so good comedies can't exist without really good scripts (for me, the peak will always be Neil Simon's plays turned into movies, with masterpieces like Barefoot in the Park, the Odd Couple and the Sunshine Boys). Maybe there are still some good screenwriters in the world, but they can't work in Hollywood, where meritocracy was replaced with politics and diversity hires; and the way young people live today, without many hardships and real experiences, completely isolated in their bubble, stunts their growth as storytellers.
I hope comedy returns soon! We need it.
I think we should also consider the amazing comedy’s made in the 70’s The Jerk, blazing saddles, caddie shack, animal house. So funny 🤣 that was another golden era of comedy. Those movies would be so offensive to a lot of people now.
The wat John Belushi drunkenly snorts out "Why not" when the rush asks why his name is Pinto is still one of the best moments of comedy lol
I can’t imagine the response showing Blazing Saddle’s (actually most Mel Brooks movies) would get from people now. There would cataclysmic outrage.
🤣 people couldn’t handle it!
The Jerk is the greatest comedy film ever made.
The funny thing about this video is I always felt that Will Ferril was the death of comedy films.
How so?
@@jskrabac I can't answer for electrofyingct, but I know my wife hates Will. She thinks he's not even slightly funny, and would probably have said exactly the same thing. She'd say unfunny comedies starring Will Ferrell killed comedies.
@@glenmiller1437agreed
yea I think if you watch his movies as a teen or early 20s they are kind of funny but you can tell the quality just isn't that great. In my 30's, even these so called classics like anchorman are just too painful to watch. All of the humour is too similar and using all of the same characters/type of jokes gets very old quick.
@@josieclarke460 I just took a plane flight, and on the entertainment system was Anchorman. I had never see it before, and after commenting here, I thought I'd give it a try. I stopped before I got through the opening credits. It was Will saying odd/obnoxious things to people off camera. I didn't laugh at all. Ya, just painful. I felt if that was a sign of things to come, I might as well find a different movie, so I did.
You ever imagine in 20 years or summit their will be another content creator slapping a “the rise and fall of CZcams” mad
The 90s and 00’s were definitely peak comedy. So many classics worth re-watching.
I thought of the famous “I work with r-words” from There’s Something About Mary lol. I didn’t realize it until watching it recently but they say it in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory too. A kid’s movie lol. The 2000’s were truly a different time.
Same for the original version of Go Go Moba Boy.
Bill Burrs “old dads” was the first in a long time I had that 2007/8 comedy feeling
I hated how burr is the bad guy with a bi-- wife when most of his anger is understandable
Superhero movies often have lots of comedy in them from Shazam to Guardians to Deadpool.
Don’t forget Fantastic Four.
Whenever you watch a 2000's comedy movie, you will see jokes that someone will say "haha, that would NEVER fly today!", implying people of today are just 'better' than they were back then, but in reality, its the opposite...
Here's a question... if it is ok for old edgy movies to exist today, and you can still laugh at them today, why is it not ok to make new ones?
We criticize Russia and China yet were going down the exact same path where certain topics will just get you in trouble. Or maybe it's like some middle eastern countries with blasphemy laws, you're just not allowed to laugh at certain things or they'll punish you. Certainly seems were heading down an authoritarian path but more and more people are also waking up to it and rejecting it. Hopefully things get better lol.
They couldn't even make Iron Man today!! Have you seen 1 & 2 recently? Every other scene would get "cancelled" today.
Haha, if the woke lefties had their way, all those old comedy movies would be erased from history. We're certainly not "better" today, we've just handed the reigns of society over to hypersensitive, easily triggered lefties who fundamentally hate comedy. I love watching old comedy movies and remembering a time where free expression and free speech still existed.
But it's ok, eventually this lefty takeover will end and there will be a drove of films making fun of them, and I'll be there for every single one.
what specific scenes are you talking about? the only one i can think of is tropic thunder. and yeah, no fucking shit people wouldn't find blackface as appealing.
@@juniorjames7076 >they couldn't make iron man today
good. capeshit is a plague on cinema.
'Mike and Dave need Wedding Dates' from 2016 was the most recent really funny comedy I've seen.
My favorite comedy is Blazing Saddles. Look at the main plot: A man gets put into a situation where his main purpose is to fail, but he turns it around and saves himself and a town that hated him. Along the way, breaking stereotypes... sometimes.
The fact that we’re seeing this occur also means people are hungry for a good comedy. It’s the perfect time for someone new to step it up and deliver something original, which ideally would be about all the things we’re not supposed to joke about anymore.
For 90s comedy; there were three: Jim Carry, Adam Sandler AND the best of three: Robin Williams.
And dont you ever forget that
Sandler was more 00’s. Eddie Murphy was more 90’s
Mike Myers gotta be part of the 2000s discussion
I never got Robin Williams comedies. I always thought it such a shame that such an amazing actor wasted so much time trying to be funny when he could have made more serious films instead.
@JamalW239 Adam Sandler was 90s then 2000s. Happy Gilmore up to Little Nicky where all in the 90s. Everyone thought after big daddy he fell of.
Eddie Murphy is 80s AF. He had 2 big hits in the 90s; Dr Doolittle and the nutty professor, which both are pretty bad compared to, trading places, Beverly hills cop, and coming to America. It is stated many times the Eddie Murphy was THEE comic of the 80s...Total goat.
@MatthewCraigMusic yes, I agree, Mike Myers work in the 2000s it top tier.
If you can't stand being offended, then don't hope for any actual comedy shows happening.
Comedy is all about being able to laugh at ourselves and not take things too seriously. It's little wonder why that is lost on so many these days.
the fact jim carrey has just given up on acting , is already a big loss for comedy and tells a lot about how everything is now censored
I swear since 2010 the human species went back mentally 200 years and its only 2024, imagine whats to come.
Can’t believe the Farrelly Brothers didn’t get a mention! Honestly Me Myself and Irene is such an underrated movie. Something About Mary never loses its shine.
I listened to me me myself and irene yesterday hahaha .
Oh yeah! Me myself and irene - good one. Yeah wild how good comedies used to be. I rarely
Watch movies multiple times but classics like that could
Society going from watching a funny and rewarding 80-90 minute movie to a 20 second tiktok makes me sick just thinking about it.
True, but yet here we are on CZcams. Remember, what were you doing before sitting in front of PC? People used to be bored.
Watching those shorts just kill your braincells. I honestly feel so bad for all the millions of kids that are obsessed with tic tocs and CZcams shorts, I'm convinced watching those all the time while your brain is still developing has got to have some terrible damage to your mind and your attention span....
Society going from eating a bountiful rewarding buffet meal at Golden Corral to eating little 100-calorie bags of chips and granola bars - it makes me sick just thinking about it.
Gawd I'd happily take an 80-90 minute movie. I hate how most movies now blow past 2 hours EASY.
boohooooo
Part of the reason why I love horror is it’s the last genre you can pretty much get away with doing any humor you want. If it doesn’t land, audience assumes you were trying to shock them.
The death of these comedy films has coincides with the death of the Romcom as well. When you think about it most of these comedy films of the 2000's where kinda like Romcom's but for dudes. The anti Chick Flick if you will. What is the 40 Year Old Virgin, Crazy Stupid Love, or even Talladega Nights as movies if not about these guys who fail in their relationships but then succeed after they learn to grow up in some way? Or realize their true love was with their best friend the whole time. Either way, this means their identity as movies was closely linked to another kinds of films that also would dry up at the same time in the digital age.
Great analysis , thank u for not taking the easy out and just blaming cancel culture, i actually think while a contributing factor, its the other issues you spoke on that are the real culprits
As an East European, raised on Only Fools & Horses or Blackadder I always saw Will Ferrell or Adam Sandler as halwits pretending to act.
My favorite's are Airplane, Top Secret, The Naked Gun Trilogy, Hot Shots, Scary Movie 1 through 4, Not Another Teen Movie and Mel Brooks Spoofs. With TV I loved The Benny Hill Show, Married....with Children, In Living Color, MadTV, Night Court (The original).
What an amazingly done video! the depth of the research done on the content is awesome. Keep up the good work
Bro, Deadpool has been talking to the 4th wall since he started in the comics. It wouldn't be a Deadpool film with him not being self aware!! Same with She Hulk, she broke the 4th wall before Deadpool did it.
True to the comic books or not, She Hulk was absolute fucking dogshit.
Happily, there are dozens (if not hundreds) of comedy movies we havent seen yet that we can still watch for the first time, as well as re-watching our old favorites.
That's true I enjoy even bad comedies
"Jokes that might land in America, might not be funny in other countries."
There's a finite amount of times you can watch a guy eat literal shit before you find it disgusting and not the least bit funny.
Not in the English-speaking parts of the world, though. As soon as you say "shit" or "fart," someone will start laughing hysterically. I will never understand that.
Should i say " POOR Things " is biggest movies since last comedy movies
“The 2000s were great…everybody was so happy.”
*shows Ed, Edd’n, Eddy*
I see you too are a man of culture
The Judd Apatow era from the 200s was a reaction to a death of R rated comedies of the 90s. Most ereas of movies are reactions to previous periods and I think we'll get back to that again. Probably not as in your face as the Xtreme Attitude era of the early 2000s, but another new normal. I thought Bros was great, but its really more of a romantic comedy than just a straight comedy movie. The Nice Guys was in 2016, but that movie is a modern classic, more people need to watch that.
So you're saying comedy movies will return to the top when they become the reaction to the absurd emotion-based decision making of this era? Oooh weee, that's gonna be hilariously defensive to the hateful bullies of the alphabet mafia.
@@rmaxtpmx- Don’t pay any attention to him. When he said Bros was a great movie I couldn’t take him seriously anymore.
There also seems to be gaps between generations retiring, and the new generation stepping up or being given similar resources. Can’t even remember last time Apatow made a movie.
Blaming “cancel culture” is too weak of a reason. Especially when a lot of it comes down to studios cutting costs and trying to make a much money as possible. They only widely market whatever they think will make the most money with are franchise films, ie superhero films and remakes/sequels to previously popular franchises. If you actually step out of that bubble that the big companies have you in then you’d find there are still great comedy films out there. But nobody’s gonna do that because every thing not super mainstream is too “woke” for them.
Well he did mention some other factors too. Bit cancel culture is absolutely part of the equation. It's not just comedy movies going down the tubes, but comedians have had shows cancelled numerous times for being politically incorrect, they've self-flagellated publicly for making jokes, tried to take funny shows/movies back cos they now are offensive, and so on. It's not weak, it's definitely part of the situation.
I rewatch 90s and 2000s comedies regularly just to remind myself how good movies should look like. My favorite genre is action comedy, mastered by Jackie Chan, and Taxi (a Luc Besson film). We just don't have it anymore...
They need to make an avengers film but with comedians all coming together
I think that already exists and it's called Anchorman.
^^^^ DING DING DING. Exactly right, man above my comment.
@@yoursemexpertand antman is in that one too!
They did. It's called mystery men
Like comedy powerhouses version of the expendables imagine Adam Sandler Jim Carrey Will Farrell Seth Rogen Dave Chapelle Eric Andre they all have dif comedy styles it’ll be cool to see
Theyve been keeping us in fear and loathing ever since.
Exactly mate, Don't want us Happy, Smiling and Laughing!:)
Too good of a frequency for the masses!
My father is 66, and we were just talking about this. We know it's all about cancel culture and the snowflakes flakes who have ruined comedy for the rest of us. It's just so sad because we need new and quality comedy now more than ever. People need to laugh again. They want us in a society that's a stagnant shithole, devoid of comedy, and it's disgusting.
TBH it seems like late 2000's comedies have entered a dead end of increasingly raunchy and controversial humor that became self-indulgent and lost its appeal with the rise of cancel culture. I love controversial comedies, but there should be a point to the controversy. Most of today's comedies are either too scared to say anything, or go for superficial shock value and nothing else.
this video title alone both made me crack up and feel intense anxiety since reality has gotten too absurd to parodize 😢😂
I wish we could do a team america movie again. Nearly 20 years later and its still hysterical. Best puppet sex scene of all time.
Best throw up scene too
Kevin Smith did the same thing reacting to cancell culture. He used to be very offensive, intentionally offensive, but his last 2 movies didn't even try to offend. They were very vanilla.
everything is dying literally movies , games
Books, music, comics, I could go on
I do think that comedies are starting to make a comeback. Just within the last several months we've had a variety of comedies such as Rye Lane, Polite Society, No Hard Feelings, Strays, Joy Ride, and Bottoms. However, some of them have just not done well at the box office. So while I do think that comedy needs to be a little less restrained on the jokes that are made, there are comedies still coming out that need support. Bottoms alone has the potential to be a classic if it just gets more attention.
I think the fact that I only know one of those, vaguely aware of one of those, they both look terrible, and haven't even heard of the others, is kinda telling that they aren't coming back. They may have been made, but they did abysmal
Bottoms was definitely a failure. It was like a high school student wrote the script. They needed to consult a comedian about how to set up a joke. They tried to replicate other successful comedies but then didn't understand how to set it up so it was funny, instead of a parody. No Hard Feelings was fine but they didn't cross the line. Jennifer Lawrence knows how to carry a scene but the lines/action didn't meet her defiant attitude (she didn't cross the line to make us laugh out loud). Which is what you pointed out about less restrained!
@nosoyallowed828 *"Woke comedy isn’t funny."*
That's because propaganda isn't funny. Never has been, never will be.
Coming from a dog person I loved Strays.
It was raunchy, vulgar and dirty, but so hilarious.
My audience laughed through the whole thing
As somebody who loves Action and martial arts movies polite society was a letdown the trailers made it look like a comedy that was a love letter to action and martial Arts fans. They made it look like scott pilgrim, kung fu hustle and kill bill(more funny) but then its nothing more than a soap opera mixed with jordan peele's get out. On paper the movie sounded cool but was poorly executed. It takes place in the uk could they not have hired Scott Adkins or Ray Park for choreography?
No Hard Feels is overated i m sorry it just felt like a bad attemptAmerican Pie, Van Wilder and 40 year old virgin in one. Girl next door is still the best in that genre. Its woke as hell jlaw male friend with the preg wife s insulted for being a man. Ironically jlaw is cancelled for being a biggot at a frat party but not taken advantage of a teen? Lol.
Bill Burr new movie sucked too i hes the bad guy when most of the issues his character faces aren't his fault.
Sandler is losing too with the new movie with hus daughter
They're making movies for Twitter because people think Twitter represents society today. "10% of Twitter Users Are Responsible for 92% of Tweets." At least Deadpool was comic accurate so you can't blame him there.
Glad to have grown up in the best ever era for comedy. I saw Hot Fuzz and In Bruges in the cinema and they're my two favourite cinema experiences
The Snapper (1993). The most classic lines in one single film ever.
Glad you didn't just dive in on "because you can't make films like that today", or that people are being cancelled. You showed it yourself - someone made a hilarious film about Stalin's death. Which is why I also don't think it's a writing thing - writers *are* out there, even if hollywood doesn't want to use them.
A lot of people say "you couldn't make blazing saddles now" and they're right. But not because of cancel culture or writers/studios not wanting to do it - it's because we have nothing so big left to mock. Superhero films went meta before someone tore them down with a similar film, space stuff did the same or had galaxyquest - and the ease of access to other forms of comedy has made hitting niches less powerful, and more risky - and studios now are insanely risk averse.
So studios just... don't. The only place left of the older way of making films is horror, where you can chuck $3m at a film, make $30m in the box office, and sure that's a "failure" but you still made 10x.
Instead of that, and that niche comedy (Hot Fuzz for instance is very British) they just make shit as bland and inoffensive as possible to sell to literally everyone... as with all their other films. Also, when it comes to Hot Fuzz - think how *lazy* American comedies are. Think how Wright used every medium in Hot Fuzz, even when he's travelling from London to Sandford he made the clip interesting - a lot of films would just send a team to get a shot of him driving in. So many comedies ended up that lazy so people just... stopped watching them.
Hot Fuzz is one of the best movies ever created. Seriously the writing on that goddamn silly comedy is SO tight. There isn't a wasted scene in the whole thing. It's absolutely brilliant.
Now that's a movie that took chances. As you said, it wasn't just generic and targeted to appeal to everyone. That is very much why it is so good. It had a clear goal on what it wanted to be and was relentless in pursuing that.
Shaun of the Dead is great too but not quite on that same level. There's also The World's End. It's the same cast of Simon Peg and Nick Frost and directed by the same director Edgar Wright. But that one never gets talked about. I think it's another slight step down from Shaun of the Dead. But it's absolutely worth a watch.
Hot Fuzz was 2007
Nah.... it's cancel culture. No different than cancelling Alex Jones from CZcams. It's not because nobody wants to watch. He'd be one of the biggest channels if allowed. And "Old School 2", if done in the same way way, would be the biggest comedy of the year.
It's because a deficient; confused and outcast section of society suddenly started getting promoted and told they were just fine, and everybody else needs to change, not them. It's a deep psychological imposition from the top of society.
They (at the top) made the rest of us stop laughing at the weird and wacky. They can't do this by any other means than cancellation.
One day the tide will turn again and the very same people will happily finance funny movies again that "offend" people.
The more people you try to appeal to simultaneously, the less it will hit for the people who REALLY get it.
@@lifeoflennie2443hey, Alex Jones fan, go back to bullying school shooting victims and buying Alex Jone's corporation sponsored garbage, while ranting that you're both somehow supposedly part of the superior race but somehow oppressed by a weaker minority.