Better First Layer and Bed Level Fixes on 3D Printers
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- Chuck shows you a few Cura Settings that help give you that near-perfect first layer and a trick to do before every print to help get the 3D Print to stick on this week's Filament Friday.
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As some have pointed out, mounting the IPA bottle on the rail near a running heated 3D printer is not the best idea. Keep it stored in a safe dry place when printing. You can store it in the holder when the printer is not running so it’s there when you are ready to start a print.
Hey CHEP, useful video as always (Maybe not the storing flammable liquid near the printer haha!) but wondering where did you get the CAD model for the bracket? Trying to find that double slot CAD model, it's a real pain to find!
I created it in Tinkercad.
Just so you know. Craality glass build plate coating dissolves if alcohol used on it . I Lean the hard way 😃
How long did it take?
How many applications of alcohol?
@@FilamentFriday the very first time i try left permanent marks so I'm no using alcohol unless im printing on the plain glass side. Craality says to use water with little dish soap . Bottom line : don't touch the plate
It's good to struggle a bit when learning this hobby, just not to the point of becoming frustrated and quitting. It took me quite a few prints as a beginner to finally get things right. You have to learn what setting does what, and the distance from nozzle to bed and what a perfect print even looks like when you get there. After a awhile, you'll instantly know what to adjust, and videos like this help tremendously! Great video for a newby!
Same here started printing for 2 weeks know
Still there is much to learn like i still can't get to print something in mid air without a mess
You need to get the right printer for that. An Ender 3 while trying to print relatively large parts is not a good idea for a beginner.
@@bre39y i always use support for that. Using ender 3
@@mostafakhaligy857 it mostly makes a mess by sticking to the print
@@bre39y u can always change the support settings
Not sure if helpful for others, but I took the liberty of noting out Chuck's tips. I believe all these settings are for Cura.
1) Level the bed
2) Clean the bed with IPA
3a) Under 'Material': Bump up printing temp (up 5 degrees, or 10 on glass bed)
3b) Initial layer even hotter (around 215)
4) Under 'Quality' : Change Initial Layer Line Width - usually 100%, but change to between 115% to 125%
5) Under 'Walls' : Check "Outer Before Inner Walls"
6) Under 'Speed' : Slow down initial layer. Initial Layer Speed = 20.0 mm/s, Initial Layer Print Speed 20.0 mm/s, Initial Layer Travel Speed 35.0 mm/s
7a) Under 'Top/Bottom' : Change 'Bottom Pattern Initial Layer' to Concentric (default is Lines)
7b) Check the 'Connect Top/Bottom Polygons' (default is off)
Nb. At time of writing, it seems "Walls" options are slightly different now. There is an 'Optimise Wall Printing Order', and a subsequent 'Wall Ordering' option. Its default is "Inside to Outside", with the alternative option being 'Outside to Inside'. I expect this new option is similar to Chuck's original intention for this step.
Thanks for doing this.
Thank you so much. I just got my 3-D printer. How about a week ago and I was stressed because I could not figure out what the hell was wrong with it. After following all your steps, it’s finally sticking to the bed again.🎉🎉
This man Chuck really just solved all my 3d Printing problems ive been having for months in just one video under 10 mins ! Now thats what i call TOP QUALITY content!
Can't believe the difference these settings make. Perfect printing since. Thanks a million.
These tips rocked, Chuck. I've been so frustrated with my Ender 3 for the last month when I couldn't get prints to stick or leveling right. This video and the bed adhesion one you did helped me do a total 180.
You're the Mr. Rogers of 3D printing, sir.
I wish more people had your style of presentation. Time is our most valuable asset. Thank you for spending your time, helping people like me, with videos like this. I had my best print to date, after watching this and integrating your suggested changes to Cura. My adhesion was perfect. It was the largest job yet and it was sitting loose on the plate this morning when I reached for it. Unbelievably, outstanding improvements. Have a great day! -from a new subscriber! Thanks again!
THANK YOOOU
I set up a printer for my bro 6m ago with no problems. I just got the same brand - different model and was on day 4 of tweaking and failed print jobs. All of the other solutions I found online were things i had already tried. I was ready to throw my printer off the balcony. Your video was the first I saw to mention anything more than the standard solutions.
You saved my new printer's life, it thanks you.
I made these very simple changes to my print and omg the difference!! I was really struggling with bed adhesion; especially with overall consistency and now it seems to be printing a whole lot better!
The quality of my first layers improved immensely with these simple changes. Thank you!
Thankyou so much for the tips, I was struggling with my printer all day yesterday and was about to give up but your isopropyl alcohol fix worked a charm, now my first layers are nice and bump free
Don’t quit take your time. I spent the last few days thinking I’ve been doing everything wrong. I followed these steps and really took my time to understand these steps. I have a print going as I type this and it’s going perfect! Keep at it and keep learning happy printing!
Used these settings after I swapped to a different head end. Was having adhesion issues. These worked great. Thank you so much!
Thank you so much. yesterday i switched my nozzle to 0.6 using your fast profile for my Neptune 2s and spent all day today failing to get a print to stick then i watch this a couple hours ago and without fail i got 2 beautiful benchies. Once again thank you and the rest of the 3d community. you guys are awesome. Cant wait till i can contribute as well.
Most brilliant, simple, helpful video I have ever seen to fix my printer issues! Thanks a lot.
Hi. Not having experience with cura, your advice is excellent. It helped to solve my small wrapping and shrinkage issue on the corners of a large build. The first layer looks fantastic and sticks well to the bed, with no shrinkage. Thanks again for the excellent video advice.
I've been unable to print for the better part of a week due to sudden bed adhesion problems. I've been all over Reddit and various forums with little success. One CHEP video and I'm back in business. Should've just looked here to begin with! Thanks CHEP!
Glad to help
Those slice settings have made a world of difference for me. Thanks for making this video.
I'm 3 hours into my new Ender 3 S1 and this video helped me tremendously, thank you!
Definitely going to try these out. I've been having an issue with my first, or first couple of layers on one specific side of all of my prints. After watching this, I realized that the size that I pull my prints up from, and touch the bed with my fingers. Time to do some cleaning and set a new template with all these settings.
Now this is an informative video, straight to the point, without long introductions and useless chit chat. Thank you!
This was fantastic advise. The first adjustments made corrected all my imperfections. Thanks
This video was so helpful. In conjunction with a ton of tweaking to my bed leveling my printer is finally printing great first layers without the need of a raft.
I am a newbie and have been confusing for weeks on how to make the first layer right. This is video is very helpful and I solve the problem immediately with setting changes on slicer. Thank you very much!
You are absolutely right chep. I had problem with my first layer being ripped off while moving, and didn''t know about "first layer movement speed"
Thank you!
This should be the first video to watch after assembly, it can save you time and money. Thanks s for the help.
Thank you so match, it very helped. The 1st layer is perfect now. No lines moved, all in place as it suppose to be.
I used to use the paper to dial it in.
I now use the paper to get it close. I made a 120mm square with a brim, turn the speed down, and I adjust on the fly when it’s making its big squares.
I was never sure what the paper method would give me and now I can see how good the first layer prints on the fly.
I am glad I found this video. My upgrade to auto bed levelling didn't help much and I was getting really frustrated. Not sure which one of your tips made it for me (suspect it was the cleaning with IPA) but I applied all of them and now I haven't performed any manual adjustment for a while and my prints are perfect. Great video. Thanks a lot.
I cannot get enough of your videos. This is BY FAR the most informative channel for those new to the 3D printing hobby.
You're the best, no bullshit guide I've found on CZcams! Thank you so much, man!
Chep, Making things to make your life easier, Isopropyl bottle holder, what a legend! A true engineer! Reminds me of Dilbert with the paper cup in his top pocket as a pen holder. I love it.
This helped a lot and makes so much sense, thanks for showing these advanced settings in Cura.
I watched this one just to make sure I wasn't missing something simple. But I finally got mine to make an actual perfect mirror image on the first layer. Worth every second of setup, especially when you can take a print off and hit print without touching anything. Cuts down on headaches
The best 3d printing advice ever. Thank you so much. My printer printed beautifully, but your tips made it print even better. You are my goto guy for 3d printing. Thanks again.
THANKS! Because of this video I switched back to CURA from S3D and I am seeing amazing first layer results. This video came out just in time for me too.
Honestly your knowledge on printing is amazing and hopefully I will learn alot from you. Ive only done a few prints and struggling with variations but hopefully I'll soon get it. It blows my mind the things we can do with printers. Keep up the good work and thank you
OMG Thank You!!! Those setting changes in Cura saved my larger prints! Cannot thank you enough!
Amazing! I have a bed that is slightly lower in the middle and i was struggling to get that 1st layer to stick on a particular shape. Upon following the points in this video, it made the print. Every advice on this channel always works for my particular challenge..once again amazing. Russell from Qatar.
Thank you, I dint realize how much fingerprints/oil was such a problem or even that it was a problem at all. 100% better first layer!
Thank you so much i had this problem for a while, since i changed teflon bed for magnetic and i couldnt print corners or small details without warping, always had issue with first layer. Thanks a lot for help!
I used your settings and WOW what a difference. Havent had a problem since. Thanks !
Thanks! I was getting frustrated at the lack of quality on the first layer, I used the settings you gave, and the next print came out perfect!
Just got my printer this past weekend and this channel took me from knowing nothing to feeling pretty comfortable in just a couple days. Thanks for all the help! I'll still be coming back lol
same 4 me...starting yesterday and already solved my first layer issues.
this helped a lot. i'm new and it was a bit tricky to map the settings to prusa, but what i did change from the video worked really well.
Out of all 3D printing youtubers, you have helped me the most. Thank you.
Thank you, after hours and hours of trying to get my first layer to stick these settings helped!
These tips worked great for me. Great video too - clear, to the point and all under 5 minutes.
When I first got my Creality CR-6 SE, alcohol was all I needed to get the bed clean, then over time it just wasn't working. I had installed the community firmware for my printer but wasn't well versed enough to know what needed to be done after doing so. Your videos especially helped me so much. I made sure to set the e-steps correctly and just used some soap and water to clean the glass bed. Those two things alone have changed my printer from unusable to awesome! Thanks Chuck.
Thank you so much for this video. I'm still pretty new to 3d printing and after a couple weeks without issue, I had run into an issue where my first layer was laying so badly it would curl up and catch on the extruder causing the whole first layer to start dragging around, I re downloaded my sonic pad profiles I tried my default cura profiles tried tramming the printer and leveled the bed over and over and tried glue sticks no matter what I couldn't get a good even stick on the first layer, SO I took this guide and used it as a fresh start following basic guidlines for a good first layer along with some of your recommended settings and I'm seeing good clean first layers again with no curling or lifting, will take a few more prints before I have my settings really dialed in but I was starting to lose confidence in fixing this until I followed along with this video.
Fr bro my print was dragging too but this guide helped.
Slowing down that travel speed was big.
This is a great video for anyone having sticking issues... Short, to the point... Much appreciated...
thank you so much man, i did days of research and nothing was working until i found this video. informative and straight to the point, you've saved me a ton of headache!
Thank you very much. I was getting really frustrated with my new glass mat. I did everything you said and it fixed it all. Thank you again.
You make the best tutorials and tricks for 3D printing. Your videos helped me in so many dirrefent situation. Thank you.
A brilliant practical solution to my first layer nightmare. Thank you so much. Very well illustrated and explained thoroughly.
The Slice Settings that you gave, has a New Meaning when using ABS. I have been so successful so far with ABS, that I do not even use a "brim" to secure the base. I believe the biggest help in the settings, was the Top & Bottom, and using the Concentric tab. I also set my Hot End at 250 and the plate 110 with ABS, and also slow my speeds down, which is part of your suggestions above. I also make a light ABS slurry, and apply it on the surface prior to the heat, after cleaning the surface. We are told ABS is not a big problem on the 3D printer.....Not So. I purchased an enclosure, which is good, but never had a good ABS model, until now. I have a motorcycle that needs ABS because of heat and now I can build pretty much anything.
Thanks for your help and previous help to make my 3D printer work right.🙂
ive got time to rewatch this and make adjustments before my first layer finishes thanks chep
You're always extremely helpful. I share your link with all my new friends in 3d printing.
Chuck.... You just made my life easy. Just got a new Ender 3 v2 and test print on the SD card was Beauty.... But When I put my part on, it wouldnt stick. I have first layers down and they look Marvelous! Thank-you!😍
cleaning the bed solved my terrible first layer problem. I didn't know that it was so critical. thanks for the amazing tip!
Thank you so much, mate. I've been running around like a chook without it's head trying to figure out why my prints kept falling over no matter where i positioned on the plate, how often I cleaned, how much I lubricated wheels, screws, tightened, adjusted things, how many supports, brims, rafts etc I used. I'd tried so many things to no avail. THEN! Using the settings you demonstrated here, along with a little fine tune of my first layer squish, and.....you little ripper! I'm finishing prints again instead of having a bin full of pieces that keep getting knocked off the plate at the 65-75% mark. Thanks again, mate. Your advice here was a godsend. Cheers!
Fantastic. You have fixed my first layer issues! Everything started out great on my Elegoo Neptune 3 and after a while I had these issues. It was my grimy fingers and the settings help too. Thanks!
Thank you so much for your help! Y 3d printer didn’t want to change the speed tho so I had to manually change it but other than that it worked insanely good and my family loves how I create big things that actually work now!
Great tips, concise with great examples
This really helped, it was that extra extrusion on the first layer that seemed to do the trick for me. Thank you very much!
Dude, you literally saved me twise with this video. I had trubels for over a year now I was near quitting until you saved me with the alcohol tip. Great, thanks man ♥️
My son and I have spent 4 days trying to print Plane Kit Cards and they just were turning into a big ball of rats nests. I made several of your recommendations and cleaned the heck out of the bed and we are on our 2nd card. Thank you so much. I took notes so I can make changes when needed
Raising the nozzle temp by 5 degrees did the trick ! Thanks.
Your channel has the most useful information for 3D printing.
Just found your channel too a few hours ago.
Wish I found this when I first started 3D printing
Your video is very timely. Almost gave up after numerous time of levelling, even after installing BL touch, ..will try it out with your tips!
Thank you, kind sir! Those changes made a big difference for one of my Ender 3 Max printers! Got my first good print in over 2 months of that printer!
Dude, you single-handedly fixed my prints. Thank you!
This was so helpful! I had been noticing my brims are failing near the bottom of the plate on larger prints. It was the oil from my fingers where I'm always touching the plate to move it!!!! Thank you for pointing that out! I was going crazy trying to figure out settings or print models as the reason for initial layers warping :)
Thank you man! I tried everything for hours and now it is working perfect!!!
A useful video that helps beginners while also making a useful print for your own usage, well done!! Thank you for your tips and code for holder item!
I don´t know how to thank you. I got my pinter today and it has been a pain. I have been so sad because it did not work for me at all. My husband tried to help me but we could not get the print to stick. We tried hairspray to.
Then I saw your video and copied your settings. And now it works!!! IM SO HAPPY!!!! THANK YOU
Thank you so much for this video. After trying to get my first layer down 7 time i watched this video, followed the steps and it worked.
Amazing - this video immediately fixed my first layer issues, so relieved to find your video. Thank you
Thanks for this tip You save my life, what it helped me was initial layer width. Thanks.
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Have watched your channel for a while and appreciate everything you do. Your reviews and information made me into a creality customer for life. 7 ender 3 pro's later sold for 6 cr10s pro v2's.
Thanks and please keep the information coming.
Thank very much for the tipps, it helped me a lot. The part I needed to print had 15 openings on the bottom so may small circles and squares and with your tipps especially with concentric movement and outer walls first he printet much bigger lises first and than the small inner rings and it was great (so far).
I’m just getting into the hobby. I’ll be using this info this evening after work, when I continue to adjust my printer. I’ve gotten a few prints out, but many fails as well, and a lot that I have aborted just a few minutes in due to not getting a good bed to print on. I think this will help tremendously.
One other thing that you do that can help with adhesion it use a skirt. There often isn't a good flow rate when the printer starts printing. The skirt gives the printer a chance to get the flow rate right when it starts printing the parts you want to keep. A brim or raft can also be useful for tall parts that might get knocked over during the print.
This video helped me get really nice first layer prints! nifty little tips and tricks
Thanks so much. It worked perfectly on my Ender s1 for a print where all the base plate is printed (for a wall diorama) and it got sticked!
Another great one is the Z offset plugin so give you just a little more control over how close you get the nozzle.
Yep, I’ve showed that before: czcams.com/video/h_Mohd7JLzw/video.html
Wow like magic! Thank you for this detail, my print looks FANTASTIC!
concise, watchable, very helpful. thank you.
Nice one again Chuck. simple, precise, and to the point. Expect nothing less :-)
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I changed from the glass v2 bed to the PEI magnetic bed and it's been superb. Miles better and the adhesion is so good.
Thanks Chuck, those Cura tips are awesome but my issue is probably the cleaning. Just got my printer a couple days ago. My first print turned out really well but now I'm having this issue. I had success bumping up the nozzle and bed temperatures, but its not failsafe. I've swept it off and wiped it down, but I haven't taken the bed off yet for a proper scrub. Sounds like this is my problem.
After a week of tinkering watching this video helped make my first successful print in days thank you!
You just fixed my problem thank you. I never thought I had to wipe my pei sheet with alcool. I just started with FDM printing but I've been resin printing for 2-3 years.
Thank you. Excellent video. Thorough, clear, and easy to follow.
Thank you so much! All my frustrations answered in ONE video.
Sharing this to the FB groups, awesome for the new fellas and for old timers in the game as well
It's all about the first layer. Thank you so much for this video.
00:52 Initial Temperature [+5/+10]
01:01 Initial Later Line Width [125%]
01:16 Outer Before Inner Wall [√]
01:23 Initial Layer Speed [20]
Initial Layer Travel Speed [35]
01:53 Bottom Pattern Initial Layer [Concentric]
Connect Top/Bottom Polygons [√]
I just stumbled upon your videos and let me tell you they are some of the best. Very easy to understand. Thank You.
Thanks.