Are We Really Free?
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- Today is a short update video. I had applied for a camping permit on my own land and it was denied. I go over my frustration with dealing with permitting in the county where my land is. Are we really free?
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:49 Camping Permit
05:27 I want to be Free
06:50 We are being Farmed
07:03 More Thieves
07:18 I Don't Have a PHD in Building Permits
08:47 My Last Question
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There is nothing free in the US, absolutely nothing.
It's sad. We are the cattle on the big feed lot. We are being farmed.
Unless you're here illegally. Then everything is free.
@@adhancock79 I see what you did there... lol. I have to laugh so I don't cry but you are absolutely right. What are we doing to ourselves and what have we let happen to us slowly over time.
It's really hard not to doom scroll. I am very grateful for this life and the comforts we do have. I just can't help thinking how much has been taken and how much our countrymen have freely given away.
"Cattle on a big feed lot"-- this very aptly characterizes how the ruling class looks upon us. We're political livestock.
When rich people migrate into an area they “rules” you out.
"Californication"
If you pay property taxes you do not own land, you're only renting it from the county. You can't live off grid almost everywhere.
100% True. And we see what happens when people don't pay their property taxes... This is another reason the house I'm building is only 500 square feet. Less to tax me on... It seems we are being farmed and I want to be a low producer for the system. :\
The money you feed the Machine pays the invading army's salary.
Truth. This is also why I am opting to build only a 500 square foot home. Less to tax me on and to feed the administrative state.
I'll camp on my land if I damn well please.
I could pitch a tent in downtown Denver without issues I am sure... :\
@@offgridcogreat response
Me too...I aint getting no permitermit to pitcha tent
I agree 👍. I support the 2nd amendment!!
Welp, the bigger the government, the bigger the payroll.
It keeps spawning branches. Pruning is needed. I can't feed myself and the government very well with this inflation. I need to solve for food.
One of the many reasons I left Colorado. When the Cali folks started moving in I got the hell out of there and went to Wyoming.
My career brought me to this state. Once I'm done, I will have to access what America looks like then and try to be as free as I can somewhere else. :\
I understand your frustration. Just wait until you try to get property insurance and they tell you that you have to remove all trees and shrubs within 500 feet of the home or any structures. Also, just an FYI, don't park any long-term vehicles on the property, oh and you need a burn permeant to have a campfire. Park County sucks!
I'm realizing that with each passing day unfortunately. My heart aches. I've spent 3+ years cleaning this property up. I'm going to keep push forward with my dream. I feel stuck and boxed in but I don't have many choices right now. Thanks for commenting.
No way tell me more about it please
Are these the rules in Co ? Not here where I live.
@@cjhoward409 local not federal and insurance companies who do not want to insure structures where wildfires are common
This is another reason why I won’t be a full time resident of Colorado. Stay 179 days then leave. I’ll have legal residency in a state with no income tax. Keep good records of when I’m in the state. Take care.
Agreed. My job brought me to Colorado in 2015. I'm stuck here for now so kept going on with my dream. I like some things about Colorado but there are also definitely problems. I would prefer to homestead in another state. For now and the foreseeable future I will be here and hopefully things change for the better. Thanks for watching and commenting. Take care.
@@offgridco I grew up in Colorado until joining the military in 1969. I left and and since my Dad passed away 2 years ago I bought the home place from my brothers. It’s not much just a small house and my two railroad boxcars for storage. I live in Florida but keep the place there for when my wife passes on. I only visit a few weeks a year. Located in Conejos County close to my cousins.
@@billm5433 So you have seen some significant changes in that time until now. I can only imagine.
@@offgridco in 1970 Powers Blvd was a dirt road going into the back gate of Peterson AFB. Now a super highway. Not all change has been good. The California transplants ruined a lot.
“The claim and exercise of a Constitutional Right cannot be converted into a crime.”
Treasonous democrats and RINOs have done exactly that to the 2nd Amendment and portions of the 1st Amendment all while they have eliminated the 4th Amendment.
Colorado was better 30 years ago, before the out of staters ruined everything
The company I work for relocated me here in 2015. I love the state and interesting weather but the politics and administrative state is hard to stomach. I will likely relocate after my career is over.
I’m in Kentucky… we have new neighbors that have built a barndominium … they’re from Colorado. But originally I was from Illinois. We’re all moving here and there and everywhere.
Nov 10 ish 1978 traveling to Key west Fla, on extended orders to my next duty station,
I stopped at this place called Aspen Colorado.it was a little truck stop, up on this mountain , several trucks were park in this chuck hole turnaround parking area.got out notice the wind was pretty cold, went inside notice that the light were turn down, as my eyes adj I seen a couple of trucker leaning over their tables , with arms folded were asleep. There was one trucker beside the counter makeing a pot of coffee, glance at me then reached under the counter then pick up a white cup and place it up.
I sat down Ian in my Class A uniform. He ask me if I wanted a piece of apple pie.? I said some to effect that be nice.
Handed me a fork, with pie and a fresh cup of black coffee.
He said how far you headed? I said Key West, better start heading south, they got a storm coming in. I am said yes sir... at the counter there was a sighn that said coffee is .30 a cup, pie is .55 cents a slice, server your self, please clean up boys, we went to bed, Drive safe.
I notice there was change on the tables, and counter, a couple of dollars here and there. I left a dollar, pick up my cup, place it on the warsh basin full of coffee cups, and pie plates.. walk out and told myself Don't ever froget this place... this is the last of Amercia old ways.
Went back thru in 2019 on that mountain all there is is high rise Condos...with Gas station on the other side of the free way... what beautiful memories.
It is unconstitutional to tell people they can’t sleep on their own land, or define what a dwelling is, I would call The Institute for Justice
Freedom. Well that's just some people talkin'
Until talking is a crime too...
sorry to bust your bubble but you do not own the land if you have to get permission to do anything on it you only rent it you have to pay rent every year in taxes and get permits to use it if you owned it you could do what ever you wanted with it the U.S. has become pay to play as the wef said you will own nothing and be happy and that is how most states operate some still believe in property rights but still make you pay every year for the right to call it yours for if you don't pay them taxes they will just take it so is it yours?
No, we are not free. Property taxes being the worst of it. If you rent or you own you really only just change landlords. This is another reason I am only building a 500 square food home. Less to tax and to feed the administrative state. :\
@@offgridco
Back in the late 1700’s or maybe 1800’s. In Philadelphia, folks were only taxed on the front side of your home. How long it was … 20 or 30 feet or more. So folks got smart and that’s when the long skinny row homes became a thing. Smart.
Not being able to register your car without a dwelling is illegal discrimination against the homeless you should file suit
This is also another reason why I am only building a small 500 square foot house. Less to tax and less to feed the administrative state. I should be able to stay on my land without interference. :\
Simply go to Mexico and re-enter the USA illegally and the treasonous democrats will give you everything you want and force us to pay for it.
Who’s checking on you? Do whatever you want
Practice stealth camping ,it might come in handy ,someday .
Colorado is definitely a crazy state to be in
The first problem I see is that your in Colorado
Yes, I still wanted to pursue my dreams even though I'm only in this state because my job relocated me in 2015. I'm trying to make lemonade from lemons I guess but got caught up in permits and I'm now chasing my tail.
It is also the 1984 new speak used to explain the processes. It seems like most things are a corrupted illusion...
It's really hurts my brain. I'm fairly technical and the amount of data they require is staggering. It feels like a bad dream sometimes. I'm only here to feed a government worker. :\
Welcome to Colorado where the thought police watch your every move.
My dad often said that rather than piling more laws on to try and control destructive behaivior, we should have law enforcement who have some sense, and judges who have some sense too, and are free to judge each case individually, not encumbered by precident that may not fit a situation in front of them well.
They keep on making more and more laws, eventually we will all be criminals.
That becomes closer to reality with each passing day. I've also heard it said that no US citizen can make it through a single day without having broken a law. I am afraid by this point that is probably true.
You have a very valid point. It's all about control. We are the cattle on the feed lot and it's sad, but I am just here to feed government workers it seems. I'm feeling very boxed in.
We have that now. Just look at what they are doing to Trump, they create new laws, or reinterpret existing laws to target Trump.
@@offgridco At the county level, you might have a chance of actually speaking to an individual county agent who understands how the system works, and if they understood who you are and what it is you are trying to do can help you breeze through the hurdles? The real reason for impediments might actually be that there is just not enough water out there. As long as you are not putting waste in a river I dont see why anyone would care that a person just wants to live where there is peace and quiet. There are a lot of us who would rather live way out, as inconvenient as that is, to not have to deal with city problems. But now you have to deal with rural problems. Speaking of neighbors you mentioned, they are likely out there for much the same reasons and often the response from them to a new neighbor, oh great there goes the neighborhood. You need to come to an understanding with them, agreed upon rules. I'm not in your business, I know where the property line is, I will watch any strangers like a hawk and let you know if I see something out of ordinary. Otherwise none of my business what you do. If you need a hand, I have 2 of them. Or maybe they would rather no contact at all? A lot of people would rather keep wild areas wild and might be aggravated that you parked an old truck right where the elk like to hang out in the winter time, and some day you might be disappointed cause they are building a shopping mall in that spot where you used to watch pheasant.
@@laserflexr6321 You are right. I do need to take the drive in to talk to someone in person even though moved all their permitting to their web site digital only. I am thankful to have met all my neighbors and they are really great. The property when I bought it was a dump and totally full of trash. I have spent over 10k on dumpsters alone and tore down three mobile homes on the property. They are very happy to have me. I'm doing my best here and just ran into some administrative frustration.
@@offgridco Hope you got before and after pictures, showing those might help convince whoever has been endowed with the power to approve. Good evidence of a good steward of the land.
Our city says tents can only be up for 24hours. My kids wanted a two night sleepover for friends with a birthday party in the middle, and that would have broken the law.
Sad. Just imagine if they wanted a lemonade stand... Remember those?
😮 that's insane, you should be able to do what you want on your own property. A 2 night sleep over for a kids birthday party WTH.
@@rjay7019 As Peewee Herman would say, "It's ... THE LAW!"
@@offgridco They allow them at garage sales.
Thats why we need change in this country from the top down. STOP VOTING FOR MORONS THAT MAKE THINGS WORSE DO SOME RESEARCH ON WHAT THEY DONE NOT WHAT THEY SAY.
Cash cows. I thought I was the only one who was aware, but I'm hearing this from a lot of places. We're catching on.
Yea, I'm being strip-mined. Frog pot...
I’m so sorry, I hadn’t realized that the social creep had reached that far west of 25. My last home in Colorado was on the eastern plains. Definitely not the prettier part of the state. I had to drive to the west end of my county 60 miles, to see mountains at sunset. 80 miles east to Kansas. 75 miles south to Lamar for groceries. No, we are no longer free in much of these states. I pray Colorado goes back to the wide open free spaces I grew up with. In the mean time, it’s a bit more free in Texas and certainly no income tax. Best wishes for progress.
Thank you for the comment. It's hard to understand what we are doing to ourselves and what is being done to us slowly over time. I'm going to keep pushing forward with my dreams even though it's frustrating me dearly. Take care.
I love Colorado and at one time I wanted to move there. But I'm in Texas also. Living on my 1 1/2 acre homestead ❤
@@rjay7019 That's awesome. My job relocated me here in 2015 so I continued with my dreams here but I have dreamt about Texas and with all the troubles I feel kind of boxed in. Thanks for watching and commenting. Take care.
Gotta vote RED hard core..
The cost of being free is multifaceted and varies significantly depending on the specific type of freedom being pursued.
Tax = Freedom
• 10%: Up to $9,950
• 12%: $9,951 to $40,525
• 22%: $40,526 to $86,375
• 24%: $86,376 to $164,925
• 32%: $164,926 to $209,425
• 35%: $209,426 to $523,600
• 37%: Over $523,600
I think a WEF person said "You will own nothing and be happy." At this point, I'm not sure what free is. I'm being strip-mined.
Tax is just the price you pay for pretending that a thief is your servant.
@@gt5713 "Don't steal, the government hates competition."
If you paid property tax it's not your property! Because non-payment of taxes they can take your property!!
It's true, we always have a landlord if we rent or think we own...
I'm going through the bs building on land in VT. Sound like much less regulations here and no one to enforce them.
Yea, while the are I'm in is more regulated than I thought, enforcement is where I may not have to worry but if they do decide to...
I am a Bushwacker from Missouri non-compliant with many things..I am NOT getting a permit to pitch a tent on my Colorado land...
Permission slip... I don't need no stinking permission slip.
Note: You're talking about Park County in particuiar. If you & your neighbors are unhappy gather a group to change things. The federal government can't help you here.
I left Colorado in 2008 when Douglas County started a water scheme that made it ILLEGAL to harvest rainwater that falls on your own land. Use discernment when choosing a county. Know all the laws, and assume they will all be used as punitively as possible against you and all your future plans. Find the Perfect Piece of Heaven within walking distance of the National Forest. You can alsways camp for free in the Nat'l Forest, only needing to move every 14 days. Wait them out. That's what I did.
Thanks for the comment and information. I went a little blind into this one. I bought the land in 2020 thinking the middle of nowhere might be more free. I'm only in this state because the company I work for relocated me here in 2015. I still wanted to continue with my dream and would have done this in any state but I have a feeling when my career ends, I'm going to relocate again. Hopefully for the last time.
So instead of fighting such an unconstitutional and artificial law you ran away. Thanks for nothing.
@@mikewurlitzer5217
But if enough people move away from some counties, they lose all that revenue they would other wise get from taxes. 😜
@@mikewurlitzer5217 I had to move for work in 2008 when this scheme was being passed. I would probably be in jail if I had stayed. Because F them.
You get what you vote for!
Or what we didn't vote for but was fraudulently nullified by bulk mailed unverifiable ballots. JUNK MAIL have us a JUNK MALE president.
I am 44 year's old and I have never been "free" in America.
Sometimes you don't tell certain people what you're doing.
Paying an addict contributes to their problem and their addiction becomes your problem.
It's true. My goal now is to produce the smallest amount of money for the addict.
Are we free? No. Are we free-er than anywhere else? Yes!
And treasonous democrats are making sure we will never again be free-er.
Personally, I think the problem is all of these people in government come from the building trades, including Realtors. It's not the people that do the work or even know anything about doing the work, it's the people that want the power. I am sure they get put in their place regularly by people that can make them a zero and they want to push the people they can push when they can. Occasionally you'll meet somebody that knows enough to know there are better ways than what is by the book legal. There are people that know they would never buy some of the buildings that get built without any hindrance from the government. They fall back on saying they do what they can to keep housing affordable but, so much they are really keeping some people making more money than they're worth and keeping people that will do the best work from doing it.
No the VAST majority in government are America's most dishonest and despicable professionals, lawyers, lawyer/politicians, lawyer/Justices.
Incoming unpopular opinion…
My brother is doing the same thing in Alamosa County.
All this is about dealing with septic affluent properly. Water is super important in Colorado and they want to be sure it isn’t being contaminated with someone daylighting their septic run into a ravine or something. This is about property rights too. You don’t have the right to pollute land downstream of your property. Your rights end at the property line. This is the biggest thing and it even relates to the marijuana cultivation in the same way.
You’ll notice that what the county denied was a commercial camping site. You will fall under all the standards of any other commercial structure or facility.
In reality they aren’t asking for much more than you answer the 5 W’s and the H.
As far as having to pay engineers etc. get over it. It’s done to be sure the structure is safe for yourself and anyone that might own the structure later. It has nothing to do with your property ownership rights.
You should try to build houses or subdivisions in a place like Atlanta. It will quickly put things in perspective.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I do have a legal septic and well. My permit application was not for commercial use. It was a standard camping permit now required in Park county for any purpose. We did not even get into my purpose with the county. All applications for camping are standard. I got blocked so far just because I don't have a legal driveway. I understand building codes and reasons for them, my gripe is not there it's the needing a PHD to understand the requirements. The administrative aspect is a burden for the average person. I will now likely have to hire someone to help me figure it out.
@@offgridco
Yeah man, I agree with it being burdensome. It’s worse when the county or municipal administration is the biggest obstacle. Public servants are incentivized to not go above and beyond because of something goes wrong they get chopped. So no reason to stick their necks out.
I’m glad you are compliant with the septic, but this is the number one reason for all the red tape. Protecting the water resource. Others may not be as careful as you’ve been.
You’re getting first hand education as to why housing “soft” cost has risen so much and how it adds to your housing costs. Even out in BFE. You’ll spend thousands before you ever break ground many times.
If you are working with the attitude of “I want to comply but can you help me” works better than anything else I’ve found. Making them the enemy makes it much worse. That doesn’t make it right, but people are people and I’m brutally pragmatic about things.
Hang in there bud. 👍
I have a car that no longer runs. We’ll probably sell it, or maybe get it fixed but for now, it’s in my driveway. Out in the country on 5 acres. I pay my property taxes but I ALSO have to pay “property” tax on my vehicle… which is sitting on my property , which I pay taxes. Does this not seem like a double tax ?! 😡
We are being farmed....
He who "lives by the use of Compooter, shall die due to uses of the same"
Believe me later.
The first thing you should do is because you own the property free and clear you got to go find the original land patent an update and get the land patent for your property. you're doing all this anyway so a little bit more research at the bureau of Land Management land patent website and make that property yours forever. Pretty much untouchable to anybody
Interesting, thanks
Ya what they don't know won't hurt you,when dealing with crocked governments you need to be a bigger crook!!!!!!!!!!
Sad but true reality. Thanks for commenting.
Profits over freedom in a land ruled by elites, if you were a criminal you’d be in the same league as the ones who make up the rules
We are being farmed.
It's the same thing here in Nova Scotia Canada. I live off grid on ferrel land that belongs to a friend of mine and in order to register my truck and my car I have to say that my address is my brother's house !!!
I'm sorry to hear that. This world is upside down. Thanks for commenting. Take care.
Colorado, California suck. Down in rural Florida. Built a barn, re-siding the house, new impact windows, replacing the deck. I live 10 miles out of town on Ag land. No hassles. Ppl can visit in their campers, you can bring in a shed or a cabin. Town inspector came by. Saw I was rebuilding after the hurricane last year. No issues with not pulling permits as long as you meet the min setbacks. They didn't even care about no permit for the house stuff. Their comment? I see you are improving stuff before the storm season comes, great. And no income tax.
But you have saber-tooth mosquitoes. They block the sun and cast shadows they are so big. I need freedom without mosquitoes and humidity :). I'm trying to solve for that. It's not working so I may end up in Florida or Texas... :\
Does the county have the right to trespass on your private land to check on anything?
No. They rely on neighbor complaints. If I did however allow someone to camp and a wildfire happened as a result, I would be held liable for breaking the "law". So I am compelled to do everything by the book for liability reasons.
Contact the Institute For Justice, they love suing the government for civil rights violations.
Thanks for the tip
And do not forget about the "open paddock (or lands) Supreme Court decision that allows any duly authorised Government or Council Officer to freely enter your property & take pictures, videos or gather any other evidence including water samples, air samples or any other physical matter to ascertain whether you have broken any Regulations or Laws. All this can be done WITHOUT A WARRANT or prior NOTIFICATION!
Only your house, sheds & other structures are exempt from such actions.
Are you SERIOUS?!? !@#@@!%%**!!!
@@offgridco . Go look it up.
Tennesee just recently repealed that, much to the chagrin of state officials.
I lived in Park County up on FS-211 (Matakat)
This is why you have the 2nd amendment!
Not for long as treasonous democrats and RINOs have colluded to eliminate the 4th Amendment, eliminate the Free Speech portion of the 1st Amendment and infringed upon on the ONLY right in our Bill of Rights to have the absolute mandate of: "Shall NOT be infringed". The 2nd Amendment has been so bastardized that now you have to PAY for an inalienable right and that inalienable right now varies state to state. How much more of this are we supposed to tolerate?
I'll Backpack and live free..a rollin stone,no moss will gather...
I never liked the city thing really,..I lived from my 70 ltr pack an estimated 30 years..not as a
homeless addict or crazy person, but on MY terms..
I'd travel into a town,gear up,buy or trade for services and haul ass back to nature...
I'd STILL be out there doin it,but unfortunately Stage 4 cancer,jaw restoration and a g peg tube stopped me in my tracks..my advice?
The world is in chaos,make a plan,..
And bug out...
Always remember to not become complacent...
Humans can LIVE without cash and trinkets...Backpacking as lifestyle isn't for the weak,it refines all your senses...being a Hobo and being a Bum,are 2 TOTALLY different things.
Thanks for the wisdom. Take care.
Welcome to California Lite! That's what my neighbor calls Colorado since he moved away from there.
It's interesting that you mention that with so many California transplants to this state, it's no wonder. Denver and Boulder rule the roost. I thought being in the middle of nowhere I might find some liberty. Nope.
Colofornia and People’s Republic of Boulder.
Did you build the little cabin in the back ground? Did you need a permit? Thank you for the vid, no we are not all that free in the USA
No, I did not build the cabin. It was on the land when I bought it but in very bad shape. I did clean it up. It's a dry cabin. The previous owner did live in the cabin and at one time it was a legal dwelling but codes have changed since then. It's just a "shed" I am paying taxes on. Thanks for commenting.
Thank you for the reply, good luck
@@Rumwhiskey Thank you. My pleasure. Take care.
It kinda sounds like they're interfering with your god-given right to the pursuit of happiness... Which is outlined in our U.S. constitution and is a protected federal right.
It's more than a sound... deafening actually. :\
@@offgridco in my opinion, it's the same thing that should be done with out-of-control taxation. It impedes the "free" from achievement of their pursuit of happiness.
Well the cowards of the USA have openly tolerated all levels of government ignoring the ONLY inalienable right in our Bill of Rights to contain the absolute MANDATE of: "Shall NOT Be Infringed" to the point it is the only right we must now pay to exercise and varies state to state.
@offgridco. Unfortunately yes. I suggest you look it up. In Australia when you buy what you think is "your" land the actual Title you get says : "In FEE Simple".
Which in laymans terms means you are "renting/ leasing " the land from the "Crown": (of England.)
I advocate the return of the Guillotine.
The illusion of freedom with the reminder you're not. Property taxes being another reminder we own nothing. Whether we "rent" or "own" we still have a landlord no matter what. Someone is always trying to extract resources from us. We are being farmed. My goal is to produce as little as possible without being culled.
Basically don't homestead in leftist Colorado.
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Yep! Homesteading is a traditional historic American way of life that represents freedom and self-sufficiency. Is there any wonder why they(leftists) pass laws to hinder and/or outright ban such ways of living. They want you enslaved to and dependent on the government.
County’s in Co work different
How could the DMV know whether you have a legal dwelling on your property when registering a vehichle so long as you have an actual postal address and mailbox. Its not like their employees are firing up the satellite photos to find your house (they dont do that), and as far as I know, in no state is there such a thing as a master database of "legal dwellings". All those property records are decentralized by county, and I find it unlikely they would access your state county recorders database just to look up whether you have a legal dwelling.
You fill out the DMV form... and so long as you get mail there... that is the end of their inquiry. They simply do not check. They likely couldn't even if they wanted to.
If this is about you being afraid that you are lying on a government form because you are afraid to say it is your residence.... well.... you are digging your own hole there. They are not prosecuting you for something like that. Its close enough to the truth that it is your residence that they are not going to chase you down over this (saying this, fully aware of all the crazy things govt goes after people for and how petty they can be. This is one of those, dont ask dont tell things.)
The Park County car registration office is in the same government building. When they pull up the address, it shows the land status (vacant, improved) etc. My mother-in-law tried. This is how I know first hand the blocker. The DMV looked up the address and the land shows vacant so they will not allow the car registration. Yes , it's that bad.
It's like this in AZ also. It's rediculous.
They get us coming and going.... :\
I left Park county 6 years ago because of this BS.
😕
I wonder if the drug cartels with grow operations and other things, need to get permits. Can you say taxation without representation?
Or the tents all over downtown Denver... Do they need permits?
@@offgridco Agree 100%!
@@offgridco Right next door to you in Teller county. Going thru the same thing.
@@stevekanyon5765 Rough. Sorry to hear that. It makes my heart ache. Take care.
Put up.a fence around your land and some ,,no trespassing signs,,
I do have signs. Fence will be a longer term goal. The cost of everything is great and I'm doing all of this without debt so it's taking me a while.
@offgridco yes,fence is expensive,.....aggree 😬
The county inspector an hour away? He has eyes of other people out there.
You may not be far off...
Government can only regulate commerce. Do you have a license to do business? Read your State constitution.
And I thought Illinois was f...ked up. What's going on in this country ?😢
Like frogs in a pot...
neo-bolsheviks
In Boulder, colorado, you have to get a permit to patch a hole in your drywall from punching the wall the last time you got mad at the f'n government
Are you serious?
@@offgridco yes if replacement of more than one sheet or in a rental property.
@@michaelmcginty9335 👀
It's a prison. And it's prisoners love their captors.
We are being farmed ...
Wikipedia says Park County votes Republican and hasn't voted for a Democratic Presidential candidate since the 1960s. So why are commentators here blaming Leftists. From what you said about things changing since Marijuana was legalized there, who do you blame for the bureaucracy? Aren't there any companies in Colorado that hire themselves out to develop raw land like yours?
It may be the overarching administrative state. While rural areas are more republican, there is still so much influence from the city centers that seeps it's way into other areas. I don't have an answer. I just feel boxed in. I do feel once I get past the phase of bureaucracy I am in I will have more liberty to live free because of the remote area and lack of people to enforce. I'm not real certain but we will see how it goes. Thanks for commenting.
Yes, there is plenty of companies that hire them selves out to develop properties. They get to drill 150k wells, install million dollar driveways and build 10 million dollar homes catering to the Californians that sell their homes and move to CO to spread the leftist plague. Unfortunately I don’t have to read Wiki to get my info, I lived with that crap long enough. People ran to Park and Lake counties when Summit became a cesspool, now they are being chased out of there too.
Because exactly like in the People's Liberation State of New York a Republican is a card carrying RINO who acts exactly like USA loathing treasonous democrats.
Too late to Sell & Move??
Not too late. I'm in Colorado because the company I worked for relocated me. I'm continuing with my dream. I may eventually end up in another state but it depends on where America is at the time...
Claim ur an illeagel alien and u can a license for free
I'm sure I could pitch a tent in downtown Denver without any problems. It seems just law abiding citizens have the most trouble or get affected most by these laws and regulations. It's just about control and farming us.
the cattle you have to fence off your property have more freedom than you.
yes, I can't even camp for a night on my own spread in Costilla County
That's a funny observation I never considered. The cows roaming my land have more freedom than I do. Shaking my head. 😭
I have shopped around for a lot of states to live in, Commie Colorado was immediately crossed off the list as a possibility, probably New Mexico too. I will not support states like this with my tax dollars. Do your due diligence when looking for a place to live or do business.
I agree with you. The company I work for relocated me to Colorado in 2015 and I still wanted to pursue my dreams no matter what state I they had me in. Once my career is over I will likely relocate but I'm not sure what America will look like then in any state. :\
@@offgridco I understand, and I do feel for you! I wish you the best of luck, and sometimes we just have to work with what we have.
@@darrellbrown8165 That is all I can do. I'm trying to maneuver the administrative state and hope I have more liberty after this is over. This too shall pass.
Australia is still a penal colony, I’m first gen Aussie, rules and regulations everywhere we’ve definitely lost our freedoms.
I was horrified by what I saw there from afar during the pandemic. 😕
@@offgridco yep,
The answer is NO!
N O P E !
Same boat in California. Sorry to say get off CZcams building dept watches Good luck
Probably a good idea. I'm fixing to get canceled....
Register your vehicle in South Dakota
Is that a thing? 🤔. I often wonder what RV folks do.
Dont buy land in Colorado
My work relocated me here in 2015. I wanted to continue with my dream no matter what state my work had me. That being said, I may leave when my career is over. I do like some things here but the politics is not one of them.
You picked up some cheap land, Park County is a mess. Run by Mitchel, Wissel and Elsner. Elsner is finally gone this year, but the same type will replace him.
They are very anti business and prefer to live in a time warp. There is no economy here so all they can do is beg for grants. Which requires them to abide by certain rules out of Denver.
Our roads are junk, our sheriff is non-existent and services are a joke.
I spend maybe $1000 a year in the County that is taxable, Salida, BV, Summit or Denver for shopping. Do not read up on the school system here, you would not send your kids to school here if you have a choice. They just shot down an attempt for more healthcare services in Bailey.
This list goes on.
Just wait until you get into the inspection process, you will really enjoy that service.
Majority of people who live in Park work elsewhere and shop else where for a reason.
Driving around Hartsel I do not think camping permits are enforced unless maybe you have annoyed the good ole crew at the 4 day a week taj ma hal in Fairplay. Although Smith lives down Guffey way and he is pretty much the main unelected guy screwing this place up.
Wow. Thank you for the comment. I really appreciate the insight. I really stepped on a hornet nest it seems. I'm glad I've been a beekeeper my whole life. It's really frustrating and I'm going to keep pushing forward with my dream even if it's a bad one. My work relocated me to Colorado in 2015. I'm here for now and the foreseeable future. I'm hoping once I get past the permit bureaucracy, I will have some more liberty since I am so remote and "enforcement" may not be a problem. Time will tell. Thanks again for commenting. I appreciate it. Take care.
Can I throw up a cheap trailer as a residencan't you
@@donaldcurtis9229no, same rules apply. Mobile homes are not permitted either. If I already had a legal dwelling, I could park a camper at my place I'm sure.
Well, I guess I'm glad I don't live in that state.Sorry to hear about your dilemma.I would hire an attorney from a outside county to intervene
I thought thos was Canada 😢
No, totally the USSA. Not free here either.
All planned to keep the poor poor. Even if you have land these days doesn't mean you can live off it even camping on it as last resort. But nope they say show us the 💸 💰 🤑! So isn't trickle down economics great folks. In El Paso county you can't live in a camper if your house burns down. You need a one year only permit that requires you have blueprints & are building a new home.
It's sad we did this to ourselves.
But squatters are allowed to live in your house,...you need to move to texas,...we are still free
Oh, hello
Hello :)
If you drive your car and do not put your hands at 10 and 2. You have.
Just broken the law.You are a criminal.
It's true, and then add in selective prosecution... just one wrong step and it could be a landmine.
You would have been wiser to keep your mouth shut and do everything under the table, now you are on their radar.
The issue is, I can't register a car without a legal dwelling. I could do all of this without permits. But I had to enter the administrative state because of their car registration blocker. That is another recent change. I am only building a 500 square foot home as not to have much for them to tax or to have extra revenue to feed the administrative state.
@@offgridco Register your car in Colorado Springs, like I said, now you are on their radar, you can thank Polis and Hickenlooper for what you are going thru. I dont have any advice other than button up your property and stay off the radar much as possible. The only other way is civil disobedience and I have found nobody has the nuts to do that.
@@stevekanyon5765 I tent to cancel myself all the time. Self censorship. Not ideal but new reality. Thanks again for the comments.
It's time to stad up guys!
United we stand, divided we fall and we have fallen a long way since 1776. :\
Don't live in a state that supports tyranny.
Unfortunately, the company I work for moved me here in 2015. I'm a hostage for now... I still wanted to continue with my dreams even if the politics are bad. I may reset somewhere else after I retire. It's hard to say.
Yep more taxes more regulations squeeze every penny out of you .what happened to all if thus tax surplus Colorado was going to have with legalized weed. Looks like a bug step backwards to me. And tet people keep viting for democrats and everything us turning into a turd bowel
I'm being strip-mined. 😕
Get involved in the Government run for county office change the laws if you don't like them and think your the majority.
One brick at a time... Good point. Thank you.
Get called all kinds of names, be accused of all sorts of affiliations, get broke. That’s how it works in wokeland. Had a friend who ran for commissioner a few years ago as an independent. . He was accused of being a closet republican and as such unfit for the office. To be fair he did say that school district needs an audit and county was wasting money with some projects. That’s how you make enemies.
This is fairly common. Washoe and Storey county do not permit camping without a permitted structure - freaking ridiculous. What I do with my land is none of your business. Screw em, don't give them the authority. Do it anyway and let them figure out what to do about it.
Yea, unfortunately, I had to enter the administrative state because car registration is not possible on "vacant" land. Having that "legal dwelling" is my only out. I am choosing to only build a 500 square foot home so it's less they can tax me on and less revenue to feed the administrative state. It's sad.
A PERMIT IS N O T A LICENSE THEY HAVE TO GIVE YOU A PERMIT LOOK INTO IT
SUE THE TOWN ! AND PUT UP N O T TRESPASSING IF THEY TRESPASS WITH OUT
YOU KNOWING , FIND OUT WHO TRESPASS AND SUE THEM PERSONALLY !
AND THEN SUE THE TOWN
You’re doing your taxes ALL WRONG. So many missed opportunities, you need to restructure your tax liabilities.
I'm just a W2 earner. I did create an LLC for some side hustles but without a PHD in tax code, all I have found is that for W2 earners its more difficult.... :\ I'm being strip-mined.
@@offgridcoCheers, mate. “Strip-mined” is an interesting term, reminds the community that sometimes we’re not “free-from” the upstream users’ “freedoms-to.”
Dunno rural mountain county politics, but the front range air quality area has had issues with out-of-state plate emissions dodgers for years. The non smog test counties are easier to hide an in-state plate in the front range community where the summer gas blend got mandated. Them’s who’s pissing off the big city living average folks from the “uphill” counties, guys too timid to rock the WY plate in CO, a way of pollution without paying the share.
In turn the big city living folks outghta help an uphill brother out. There should be viewers who’re more familiar with the “mineral vs surface rights” of what you call a PHD in the paperwork to not get “strip-mined.” Ultimately, I figure it’s a longstanding conservative tradition in Colorado to set up barriers to keep the riff raff from getting a foothold, but the solution is for us to look at it like needing a real estate pro to buy/sell.
Money, skill, time, and stress can be traded off, let’s get you up in the skills to get your paperwork straight.