@@rk22cc ... i don't think it is absolutely necessary that has to be done... + removing box and bumpers and that can be one major clusterfck with proper equipment (i.e. garage lift) and potential for major damage to the box if its not badly beaten up already
I'd take it off. So much easier to do the job right when you have good access. I have a '96 Taco. It's just 4 bolts and a wiring harness and it's easy to lift with 4 people.
If the internal frame coating is what I think it is (a non-drying lanolin based oil/wax) then I would do that *after* painting the frame. What makes lanolin great for inside cavity protection is that it likes to creep/spread, but this is not ideal to happen before painting the outside when you want it as dry and oil-free as possible.
NVM! I looked it up and it's not fluid film/surface shield/woolwax/lanolin type product but an actual oil based finish. So disregard what I said above. Leaving my OP comment to inform others.
more info: I was curious if the Eastwood internal frame coating was a 1K Urethane similar to POR-15 but it seems to be quite unique. The description says " Tough phenolic resin penetrates and encapsulates the rust on the internal surface. Zinc phosphate seals it to prevent future corrosion." I might have to try this out on my '96 Taco. How's it holding up for you?
The Eastwood internal frame coating is great stuff. I will be using it on the rest of the truck and on future projects. It is very tough! As for your other comments, you've learned that fluid film and other top coats are applied after the metal is sealed up. It will act as a secondary layer of protection. If the frame is newer or very clean inside, I would just use a protective spray kind of product as a preventative. Good luck with your project!
Thank you for posting this series on your Tacoma I have watched them multiple times. I recently financed a 04 tacoma and was unaware of how bad the rust can get on these frames. I found couple of small holes so now i just want to box it all in as well. But... I have to daily drive it to work. But a work in progress. I also had one question? What did you do with the little plug in sensor on the charcoal canister. When you rerouted everything?
I'm glad that you found the videos helpful. A big reason I shared them was to inform people of what to look out for when owning or if purchasing one of these trucks. For now, the canister sensor is taped out of the way until I follow through with my diesel swap. The charcoal canister is not needed with diesel fuel, so that is why I removed it. If you are leaving your truck stock, I suggest keeping the system operational. The factory ECU will flag a check engine light if the system is not working properly.
When spray the insides of the frame, you mention you had a scope. Did you go back look at the inside to see how well the coating covered? I'm getting ready to do the same thing on my frame and I was curious how well those nozzles covered. Great video series. My Tacoma is not as bad, but I'm having to repair some sections like you did.
Thank you. I did look inside and everything was coated very well. However, I may have gone a bit overkill but I really wanted to make sure it was sealed after my work was finished. There are still some drips on my floor that bonded to the concrete very strongly. Overall, I am happy and this should keep the frame sealed and lasting a long time.
this internal frame coating is very thin and will drain from the drain holes in the bottom of the frame... keep the truck more level with no rake and you will elimate most of the drip but it will pool up inside in areas. i used 4 cans... 2 green and 2 black for each 1/4 section... the green went on first so that i could scope after the black IFC to make sure it had good complete coverage
The majority of my rust issues was in the back as most of these trucks usually are. I do plan to go over the front portion of the frame at another time. One major reason I did not fully strip the truck down to the frame is because I don't have enough room in my shop right now to do that.
I've used POR15 in the past, and it did not hold up well. For this project, I wanted to try something different, and Eastwood offers a full line of products guaranteed to work together. They are one of the main suppliers of internal frame coating. I do plan to coat the frame with a fluid film or wax product when I am fully finished.
@@PostRt i could never get that FluidFilm to stick anywhere in the high-wash wheelhouse areas. one drive across Iowa in a very heavy rain washed it all away which was a major let-down! ... then I stumbled upon a product called WoolWax HV which is quite durable in the wheelhouse area after 3 years its still put even with hosing down the area at the diy spray-n-wash... the only downside is it collects a lot of dirty and is messy sticky to the touch. I am also experimenting with BoeShield at the moment which is another type of wax but doesn't collect all the dirty it seems
@@PostRt did the POR-15 fail because of UV light hitting it? did it start peeling? I am giving it a first try on a new skid plate on a 2nd Gen Taco because those plates do NOT handle salt very well! they develop softball size rottholes after a period of time it eats right through that thin metal... i also want to try the EastWood 2k paint in a spraycan
@efil4kizum Not a UV problem. It was used on the underside of a vehicle. I did extensive prep to ensure good results but it did not last. I've had better luck with basic Rustoleum paints than that stuff.
Incredible work, man. You have really inspired me to strip, box, and seal my 97 taco.
Awesome, that is great to hear. Get at it before the rust does!
@jordanwhitemanamr ... i have a '97 taco too!
Great job, I'm in the middle of patching some area's of my frame as well. Wish i could take the bed off
It helps a whole lot! Grab a few extra people and lift it out of your way.
You need to get it off
@@rk22cc ... i don't think it is absolutely necessary that has to be done... + removing box and bumpers and that can be one major clusterfck with proper equipment (i.e. garage lift) and potential for major damage to the box if its not badly beaten up already
I'd take it off. So much easier to do the job right when you have good access. I have a '96 Taco. It's just 4 bolts and a wiring harness and it's easy to lift with 4 people.
If the internal frame coating is what I think it is (a non-drying lanolin based oil/wax) then I would do that *after* painting the frame. What makes lanolin great for inside cavity protection is that it likes to creep/spread, but this is not ideal to happen before painting the outside when you want it as dry and oil-free as possible.
NVM! I looked it up and it's not fluid film/surface shield/woolwax/lanolin type product but an actual oil based finish. So disregard what I said above. Leaving my OP comment to inform others.
more info: I was curious if the Eastwood internal frame coating was a 1K Urethane similar to POR-15 but it seems to be quite unique. The description says " Tough phenolic resin penetrates and encapsulates the rust on the internal surface. Zinc phosphate seals it to prevent future corrosion." I might have to try this out on my '96 Taco. How's it holding up for you?
The Eastwood internal frame coating is great stuff. I will be using it on the rest of the truck and on future projects. It is very tough!
As for your other comments, you've learned that fluid film and other top coats are applied after the metal
is sealed up. It will act as a secondary layer of protection. If the frame is newer or very clean inside, I would just use a protective spray kind of product as a preventative.
Good luck with your project!
Beautiful, thorough job!!
Thank you!
Thank you for posting this series on your Tacoma I have watched them multiple times. I recently financed a 04 tacoma and was unaware of how bad the rust can get on these frames. I found couple of small holes so now i just want to box it all in as well. But... I have to daily drive it to work. But a work in progress. I also had one question? What did you do with the little plug in sensor on the charcoal canister. When you rerouted everything?
I'm glad that you found the videos helpful. A big reason I shared them was to inform people of what to look out for when owning or if purchasing one of these trucks.
For now, the canister sensor is taped out of the way until I follow through with my diesel swap. The charcoal canister is not needed with diesel fuel, so that is why I removed it. If you are leaving your truck stock, I suggest keeping the system operational. The factory ECU will flag a check engine light if the system is not working properly.
When spray the insides of the frame, you mention you had a scope. Did you go back look at the inside to see how well the coating covered? I'm getting ready to do the same thing on my frame and I was curious how well those nozzles covered. Great video series. My Tacoma is not as bad, but I'm having to repair some sections like you did.
Thank you. I did look inside and everything was coated very well. However, I may have gone a bit overkill but I really wanted to make sure it was sealed after my work was finished. There are still some drips on my floor that bonded to the concrete very strongly. Overall, I am happy and this should keep the frame sealed and lasting a long time.
Thanks. That's good to hear. Too much it probably better than too little. @@PostRt
this internal frame coating is very thin and will drain from the drain holes in the bottom of the frame... keep the truck more level with no rake and you will elimate most of the drip but it will pool up inside in areas. i used 4 cans... 2 green and 2 black for each 1/4 section... the green went on first so that i could scope after the black IFC to make sure it had good complete coverage
also it is a good idea to first cover all the frame holes on the top and sides before spraying so it does not spray out where you do not want it to
@@efil4kizum That is a helpful tip. I highly recommend putting floor protection down as well because coatings will find every crevice to drip out.
Noob here. Why not remove the cab and everything else up front?
The majority of my rust issues was in the back as most of these trucks usually are. I do plan to go over the front portion of the frame at another time. One major reason I did not fully strip the truck down to the frame is because I don't have enough room in my shop right now to do that.
where are you located? I'm looking to get some work done.
@enriqueg1987 I'm located in Michigan, USA.
Although I'm not taking on any more work at this time, I hope you find my video series helpful.
6:58 ... good overview of the coatings used ... any reason you chose these over the POR-15 products?
I've used POR15 in the past, and it did not hold up well. For this project, I wanted to try something different, and Eastwood offers a full line of products guaranteed to work together. They are one of the main suppliers of internal frame coating. I do plan to coat the frame with a fluid film or wax product when I am fully finished.
@@PostRt i could never get that FluidFilm to stick anywhere in the high-wash wheelhouse areas. one drive across Iowa in a very heavy rain washed it all away which was a major let-down! ... then I stumbled upon a product called WoolWax HV which is quite durable in the wheelhouse area after 3 years its still put even with hosing down the area at the diy spray-n-wash... the only downside is it collects a lot of dirty and is messy sticky to the touch. I am also experimenting with BoeShield at the moment which is another type of wax but doesn't collect all the dirty it seems
@@PostRt did the POR-15 fail because of UV light hitting it? did it start peeling? I am giving it a first try on a new skid plate on a 2nd Gen Taco because those plates do NOT handle salt very well! they develop softball size rottholes after a period of time it eats right through that thin metal... i also want to try the EastWood 2k paint in a spraycan
@efil4kizum Not a UV problem. It was used on the underside of a vehicle. I did extensive prep to ensure good results but it did not last. I've had better luck with basic Rustoleum paints than that stuff.
@@PostRt interesting! ... POR-15 is a VERY highly touted product! i have heard many negatives about it