Discussing COLORISM As A Dark Skin Black Man ✊🏿💯✊🏿
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- čas přidán 13. 11. 2021
- I discuss Colorism in the black community and beyond from personal experience to in the media. From the music industry to The Proud Family, colorism has run deep and continues to do so. Let's really discuss this down below. Please don't forget to comment, like, and subscribe. Thank You!!!
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Speaking about colorism as a dark skin Black person is hard within itself because you have people calling you “bitter” “hateful” or “insecure”.
EXACTLY!!! I see those comments a lot. All we be doing is voicing our opinions and life experiences. Most ppl who say that are lighter skinned from what I see 🤔
@@TonyTurner right!! Because they hate it when people start talking about the truth, and they want to continue to benefit from it (colorism).
@Get You In Order Ok, just by your comment I can tell you’re the type of person we are talking about right now. Colorism is not a “thing of the past.” It’s literally still happening today it’s just people are more aware and outspoken about it, but back in the day people had the “it is what it is” mentality. You didn’t watch this video if you think colorism is something that happen back then and that black people only talk about to make other black people feel bad. It’s still happening in society and in the different types of industries, that’s why so many CZcamsrs and influencers are putting out they’re experiences. I can picture you as a light skinned person rn behind the screen with the victim mentality hating on this video😂 We’re not trying to make people feel bad we’re just stating how light skinned people from all races benefit from colorism in society. And if you think this just to “hate” on you or if this is just a “jealousy” situation to you, you’re REALLY part of the problem.
@Get You In Order there was no need for 3-4 comments to justify why you’re a victim in this situation. If you’re that triggered by what I said and this video, get help. I didn’t bother reading what you said because it’s what a typical light skin person would say in these types of situations. I said what I said👏🏾👏🏾😂
@Get You In Order “y’all think everything is all about y’all.” At this point, I think you’re a toddler behind the screen having a temper tantrum. We’re having a discussion about our experiences and VIEWPOINTS involving colorism and here you come with your victim mentality and opinions about how we are wrong🤦♀️ You’re literally saying and complaining about everything that you’re doing rn. YOU were the one who came at me first, because you were triggered by what I said, but then have the nerve to say I’m the one entitled to my opinion when you tried to contradict my opinion in the first place. You are such a hypocrite, but ok👏🏾👏🏾😂. I guess this video hit the wrong spot since it was talking about light skinned men
Me being mixed black and white I look Hispanic to some ppl …. But I have to admit as a teenager I did get treated better than my cousins who brown skin and dark skin… my aunts and uncles would yell at my cousins but talk so nicely and respectful to me… I picked up on that as I got more older and always wonder why I got treated better than my cousins
Wow. Thanks for sharing that!!!
@@TonyTurner bro…black people don’t have green eyes and gold hair. The person you spoke about was mixed with white. Mixed race can be those with two mixed race parents. Black features don’t start and end with light skin and green eyes. West Africans are sticky dark skinned with 4 c hair. Light skinned people are either biracial or have two parents that are mixed.
@Rick Myles Yeah I know he was some type of mixed but he was the type that "at the time" we would still call black...because he looked like a boy version of the rapper Lil Mama. And his mother almost looked like the singer Monica so in my guess his father was the one who had the line of genetics to make him look like that.
@@TonyTurner I want to do a live video with you…it would be informative
No such thing as look Hispanic because Hispanic come in all colours
as a 29 year old dark skin male i been hit with darkskin jokes my whole life. its messed up, but it made me love my self even more. plus other cultures across the world experience colorism as well. its crazy.
True ‼ It makes me appreciate more about myself...and some other cultures are really deep in it. Just tragic
My experience as a lightskin man is the same as yours or worse , I had to fight , fight , fight people would hit me just to see if I could get a black eye . All black men face the issues tbh it’s medium brown people who are the only ones to be excluded. Today Black women openly discriminat on lightskin males saying they aren’t attractive just because their complexion. We must look at the current state of colorism
Same, I just laugh if it's funny or remain silent if not. But I'm new to this cuz I was kinda popular amongst women in a very racist city, Memphis. I experience more hate amongst all the men & dark skin women down here
@@CITYOFSHOOTERS bro I love lighter skinned guys. Not every black girl
@@If_you_tag_me_you_are_gay I know not everyone but it’s a lot who condemn lightskin brothers based off complexion I understand preferences but why the need to destroy ur own people
Yup...all that festishizing light skin and eyes, the old heads call that being "COLOR STRUCK."
Yup!!! It's seen as an attractive abnormality in contrast to having darker skin and dark brown eyes which is mostly seen as the norm.
Those features are from mixed heritage. People are fetishizing mixed race features. Mixed race people can be those who have two mixed race parents.
Lol sounds like my mom she used to say that my brother was colorist picking light skinned women and talking about darker women badly I used to get on him for the ignorance .
As a dark skin Black man in NYC, I experience colorism almost everyday, especially from dark skin Black women.
Thanks for sharing your input ‼
Do you still experience that nowadays?
@jp.twitchbroadcast8805 Yes. Nothing has changed. I'm assuming it's because of the region where I live. In NYC, there's not a lot of Black Americans, but a lot of Black immigrants who have a very colorist mentality that stems from their culture back home. The few Black Americans up here are off code as hell and want to be with non-black men either explicitly or on the low. Then you have the hoodrats. The majority of Black Americans up here want to escape their Blackness and be a part of white society and will stab their own people in the back in order to achieve that. I'm assuming all of this reflects in their attitude towards dark skin Black men. The Northeast just isn't a good environment for us to live.
What a shame... Even nowadays...
What do darkskin BW say to you?
I grew up in San Diego in a community with a large Mexican demographic. I very clearly remember in middle school and high school you never really saw white guys dating Mexican girls, but it was a lot more common to see Mexican guys dating white girls, but it was pretty standard for them to be a lighter skinned Mexican. It’s so interesting how these examples carry from one area of the country to another across different races, but with the same idea. Thank you for the perspective!
Thank You for sharing yours ‼
man black people are so beautiful. very underrated beauty. i believe in dark skin kinky hair supremacy.
Not to come off negative but where Im from as a jet dark skin dude its hard to except the fact my typical color is beautiful outside of black people thats brown skin & lighter because if so then we as black people would not have a division towards each other & letting society & people outside our race break us apart.
This is my most personal video yet, but it was about that time. Colorism is a deep topic and I wanted to give my perspective on it. Also, many other factors I could've included are being considered "brown skinned", dark skin black men portrayal in movies/shows, the previous lack of make up shades for darker skin, the criticism of interracial relationships (Serena Williams), the brown paper bag test, blackfishing, the debate of mixed vs black, the use of light skin actors to portray real dark skin people and many more!!!
@Get You In Order many studies show that mixed race are favored over black. I can send you the studies
@Get You In Order Same here. In fact, I was treated worse. when I first moved to the USA I was bullied heavily by dark skin kids calling “African booty scratcher” and that I am not black. It’s funny becuz I’m %100 E. African lmao. Dark skins are the ones who created colorism . Even back home. But it’s much worse here. But somehow it’s our fault smh
I empathize with people who have experienced colorism texturism featurism cause it's disgusting and UN fair
You hit the nail on the head! Everything you said was spot on! Thank you my brotha, cause I'm a dark skinned brotha and we in style now! Even white chicks be digging my black ass! Lol
You did a great job on this. When I was much younger and around your age, and even younger, I can still remember the days when I used to be on my way to and from work, and the White women (and to a lesser degree other women) would grab their pocketbooks and hand bags as I passed by. It got to the point where I bought a walkman, or other music player to help distract from noticing that. There were times when I even walked on the other side of cars, because of the racial hate of "Karens", and the hostility, and the prejudice.
I agree with you about the genetic jackpot. My uncle (5yrs my senior) used to get ALLLLL the attention from the girls in the neighborhood because he was tall, light and has hazel/green eyes. He actually looked like JUST like Chris Brown, but better. To the point where people would even call him Chris Brown. Crazy.
Same goes for the girls with curly hair and colored eyes.
Yup ‼‼‼
Dark-skinned dudes barely get any love.
As a fellow dark skin black young man who was born, raised and grew up in Brooklyn NYC I appreciate you making this video I definitely relate to the similar experiences of colorism you did in both childhood and current early stages of adulthood I remember those years of being crucified and being othered bc I didn’t fit any stereotypical likes that a dark skin black boy would like but then seeing those same people praise and love when a lighter skinned dude or a non black/mixed race Latino boy did the exact same thing. Even in cases where dark skinned black men can benefit from colorism in terms of dating politics there’s still a catch if you ain’t well built or skinny, or having masculine personality traits or fit into Heteronormativity you ain’t benefiting from ish. I feel a lot of dark skinned black men and boys should experience their issues of colorism and anti blackness that doesn’t go into pushing in their relationships or dragging darker skinned blank women to make them feel better
100% agree with you!!! Thank you for watching 💯👏🏿
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Regarding colorism, dark skin Black men are definitely better off than dark skin Black WOMEN! During my childhood, both dark skin, brown 🟤,and light skin boys🌕 shunned and rejected brown 🟤 skin or darker girls. In elementary school, one of my best friends was a light skin girl. When we would walk down the hall together, a light skin boy approached us and asked her why was she with me. I remember telling a light skin, curly hair Black boy that a dark 🌑 skin girl was attracted to him. I wish now that I had kept my mouth shut! He immediately told her in a nasty way that he didn't want her. Of course, he later married a light skin yellow 🟡 Black woman. Brown 🟤 or darker skin Black female students received the worst treatment from dark 🌑 skin Black male students. They would verbally and physically attack 🟤 brown or dark 🌑 skin girls.
True brown skin girls were never shunned. It’s just the dark skins. Nobody wants a dark skin. Not even dark skins want dark skins. Brown skins are neither shunned or praised.
Hey Tony love your videos, Colorism is a huge problem,I've heard people say they don't want to date Darker Skined Women(Or Men) and its honestly disgusting,thanks for speaking on this issue man.
Thank You!!!
I agree we’re all people . Who cares about colorism ?
@@RapFanatic4ever A lot of people do, and they treat darker skinned people bad because of it. Your comment is vapid and dismissive.
I rarely here dark skinned men being doged in 2022, some dark skinned men are greedy and are trying to make everything about them when it's dark skinned women who suffer
Also tired of hearing about the 80s get over it, all those men became the it guys in the 90s!
It's ~ the 3rd time I hear a black man talk about their experience on colorism, and I think that your voice is precious and needed, so thank you for voicing it, it matters a lot.
Yes they make it seem li,like, it's only a woman thing. What a crock of shit.
If it wasn't for Tony!!! Thank you Brother for bring that topic to the table. Colorism is a virus. As a black woman, I experimented it when I stopped relaxing my hair and wear my afro. People told me to curl my hair, to straight my hair bla bla bla bla because afro hair looks ghetto 🙃
Wow smh!!! That's why it felt necessary to bring this conversation to the forefront. Thanks for sharing that!!!
@@Coconut474 Awww thanks honey
Your hair is perfect, I am so sorry
True. Some light skins hated my dark skin. That's was the first time I experienced racism from black people. My first experience was with black people, from what I remember.
Sad but true in so many instances
Is that why yall hare ours now
But they were really mixed race. The first blacks brought from west Africa were all dark skinned. Light skinned people have mixed ancestry
@@mitchellmack435 Who's Y'all?
Damn that is terrible 😞😨 I am so sorry
And im proud of my darker brown complexion.
I really enjoyed watching your video. I always seen videos of females that talk about colorism but never a guy. I can relate to so much about the things you talked about. I to and a dark skin male and I remember growing up people saying, “dark skin is not in style” to see adults that still have that mindset is very immature. Microaggression also plays a big factor in colorism as well. I am still on the journey of self-love but it is interesting to know that I am not the only one that went through that
Black mothers typically teach colorism. Men react to the teaching of their mothers. The dark skinned Black woman is the most difficult to get to admit this. Often even when it appears that a Black woman isn't colorist, she often dates darker skinned men who have colorist problems. So it's a Black women who keep this going, either aggressively or passively.
Hold on, so men don’t react to the teachings of their fathers? So typical to fall back and blame the black woman because the black men aren’t in the home, being absent somewhere huh.
How are black women keeping it going when they are the biggest victims of it? You’re telling us that the majority of black women tell their black children to discriminate by favoring lighter skin and to descriminate towards darker? Makes no sense. It is the media that you grow up around that favors whiteness.
How come black men know when it’s an agenda to take them out of the home but can’t also recognize the brainwashing that is white supremacy. Then again, you know why because a lot of your fellow black man favor white anyways. So please stop with the bullshit.
It is black men who are the ones aggressively and passively keeping it going when online they are the most outspoken about wanting women of white/non black origin, and degrading black women. When they make it big, they are the first to get a white woman on their arm. Claiming they now have “access” to do so. In their songs, they praise and put lighter skin on a pedestal while degrading darker skin. I’m sure their mother did not teach them that. But it was the other black men they saw in their community. I guess black men have no influence at all over their own selves?
The thing is, you say this, even if this was the case, why aren’t the majority of black men then calling out colourism as bad, instead of framing women who speak about it to be “bitter” “jealous” and “hateful” as black men love to call black women who speak out about colorism and detail their experiences?
Everything in this video you said was Facts 💯💯 Thank you for talking about stuff like this we need a change
We do!!! 💯
I noticed colorism in movies and TV shows growing up I was really upset at school daze for the darker women being mistreated and vice versa with their insults about skin color and hair texture.
I agree The law of Attraction could go many directions and I have to say a lot of dark skinny people in the industry wasn't getting the attraction back in the day they are getting today.
We're in the Virgo ero. Lot of things changing, from what I've heard.
Btw Let's try to manifest black liberation
I listened to this on your podcast, I listen to it when I’m trucking. Keep em comin 👏🏾👏🏾
Thank You!!!
I love ur clip edits. They feel like a perfect illustration of what ur saying
Thank You!!!
Great video Tony, I'd really like to see more BM speak on colorism, as it can affect us just as much as BW.
Right!!! Thank You 👏🏿
Yes it can. There is a solution to that. You have to get away from those people even if it means keeping a very very small social circle if any.
Thanks for touching on this topic I was looking for a video like this.
Of course ‼
In my school as a black boy when I listen to the music like you Mariah Carey and Beyoncé Aaliyah etc people make it seem like I’m g*y just because I listen to this kind of music !!
Smh!!! Some people are so ignorant. Music is music
@@TonyTurner Fr!
@Debra Charles Exactly
I worked with a man who was picked on for liking whitney people called him g--- just because he admired her music smdh 😒.
How stupid, not that there is anything wrong with being gay
I love to hear your perspective on this topic. I love your long videos, please keep it up
Thank You!!!
This dude in one video hit all the major points of this topic. Thank you Tony this is such a good video.
Thank You ‼
Oh ure shaking the table today, needs to be talked about for sure!!
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Love your topics Tony keep up the good work 💪🏾
Thank You!!! 💯
👍🏾Good on Video Tony needed to see that
Thank You!!!
What’s good fam . Glad to see you back . I always enjoy watching your videos as well as listening to your Spotify podcast .I don’t even beleive in using the N word. I’m a white male who had mostly black friends. I feel more comfortable around Black people I love all people though. My thing is you respect me I respect you . Respect is something that has to be earned . I don’t beleive being a certain way to please people if they like me they like me If not whatever . I got enough love for myself to Know not everyone is gonna like you . I don’t understand that colorism thing . We’re all people at the end of the day . We all have red blood we all have kidneys a ❤️that pumps blood through our body . I been loving Hip Hop and R’NB since I was 15 . But skin color doesen’t really Matter .
Thanks for the all support. I agree!!!
The king is back!
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I feel so bad about this and I always get uncomfortable speaking about colorism because of how most people tend to view me and I’ve heard from not just black people but also white and middle eastern that when I’d get picked or given something either at work or school I was because I was good looking or mixed looking it was never because I worked hard or deserved it and I’ve been in plenty of situation with guys who are darker than me and they got stereotyped and I didn’t I’ve even been asked to be sperm donors to mixed or white fuels baby all because they don’t view me as “black or black looking” which is weird because I think I look black but I’ve been told my features are not very black black looking but you’re correct Tony!!!!
Great vid Tony.
It goes both ways man. I’m lightskin and I see black women very candid about how much more they prefer dark skin men. When I was young I had to fight a lot of the black kids because they called me soft because of my skin tone. When I was 16 I caught a charge and it was largely due to being more aggressive because I got picked on so much for my complexion. Luckily I’ve turned my life around and I just mind my business now but respectfully a dark skin man are way more favored within the black race than light skin men nowadays. I date a lot of white women and most of the time it’s because black women don’t give light skin men the time of day
Interesting. Thanks for sharing this ‼
@@TonyTurner no problem. Thanks for the video. I have zero animosity towards dark skin people ftr just thought I’d give some perspective from the other side of the coin.
This is a fact bruh, this is the side of colorism that’s never talked about. Growing up I was called Arab, white boy etc. you hear BW all the time say they don’t like LS BM and no one bats a eye. This is why I can’t take this colorism convo serious
@@moneyman8777 That's why I leave comments open for us to share our different perspectives ‼
That's cap bruh. Most light skinned dudes are favorable in the dating scene. Black women want biracial or light skinned children. They want their kids to have good hair and a light skin tone. They only desire dark skin men for sex. They don't want our babies. The only women having dark skinned man kids are white or biracial women. Trust me fam. Black women desire straight and curly hair. They hate nappy anything.
I have to be honest. I always felt that dark-skinned men were hot. I don't know why some women can be so colorist.
Thank you for sharing this ‼
Speak Tony!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
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Im not dark or that light but colorism is sad and depressing. It has caused me to consider not dating certain men because I feel theyre only talking to me because of my color. Its a huge turn off. I found myself messaging producers to start including dark skinned women with lighter skinned men and men outside their race because it something we rarely see.
Woow, you dis this? I wanted to get more involved ( like contact publicity companies and different medias and ask them to do that ) but I'm feeling intimidated and shy.
Reading that you actually did it makes me feel inspired and encouraged .
Could you tell me how you proceeded? Did you do it alone or did you manage to do it with a group?
What were you feeling in the process ( how to deal with the anxiety ? )
Once I was participating in a workshop, and saw that they were no portayal of black ds black women in the publicity, but ghey were only light skin mixed with black women. So I spoke up, and the organisers where angry at me . I felt so crazy and gaslighted and I was trembling and doubting if actually I was the one in the wrong.
Since it was a promotion workshop for a cpurse, well , i just left them and didn't do their damn course with their abusive misogynoire ass.
No money for you !
Here is my anecdote.
My only issue with the colorism debates is that it’s always based on dating standards or beauty politics it’s way deeper than that
So deeper ‼ I think nowadays dating is a huge part of it but historically it's so much more to it.
I'm sorry I'm not being rude to you at all but dark skinned men have been in style since the 90s, go look at who the black famous men were in the 90s and the 00s it's even like this since 1991
@@TonyTurner Morris chestnut taye diggs tyson Beckford, denzel Washington, Joe singer, Tupac and so on, all these men were there in the 99s and loved by black women sorry but I don't belive you are unaware of this as you seem very smart.
@@vaimende Of course I'm aware of them, but to me they were the few exceptions...
@@vaimende again colorism is more than just beauty standards I don’t get why that’s the only aspect ppl focus on
Here for it! Let's talk! Colorism isn't really touched on for men as much as it is for women.
Right!!! It was about that time I gave my perspective
Because it doesn't effect men the same way keep it 100!!!!
@@vaimende it also affects us. If you listened to this video, you heard it. In terms of criminality, dying etc it definitely affects us.
@@themarathoncontinues4211 like I said it may to some degree but mot in the same way as women!!!!
@@vaimende why do you feel the need to compare??? Y’all always do this. It’s a space where black men can talk about our own experiences, don’t need to jump in and say “it’s easier than BWs”.
Unfortunately I would see it in my family also. With certain family members it was the skin color the type of hair and all that. The one thing I loved about my Mom though she never discriminated. She treated one like the other. Some of my siblings were of a lighter tone and some darker. But some of the Aunts very different.
Th✨nks Tony. Enj🤗y your
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Thanks for sharing that!!!
Everything you said is very validated & I wish colorism disappears that talent and beauty is in the eye of the beholder 🤴🏾✨♥️💎😇👼🏾
Right!!! 💯
Nice and long video just how I like it thanks tony
Let me know what you think. Thank You!!!
@@TonyTurner I will just left work
@@TonyTurner yes it's true darker skin people dont get their credit and people seem to judge based on color myself I'm light but prefer darker cause I like black not mixed nothing wrong with mixed but I rather darker as far as females acting and them being called hoodrat or ghetto I call all people that no matter what color they are its that's how they act hey it is what it is
YESSS ur back
Happy to be back!!! 🙌🏾
I know I’m glad he’s back too . I love his videos
I love ❤️ y’all channel
Thank You!!!
The limetless beauty that black people possess is that we come in all shades and some like to try to box us in like we are suppose to be one dimensional and that if some of us dont fit in the societal vanity mold of "lightskin means better skin" then we are deemed unworthy or problematic when that was never our original narrative, as our deep roots trace us back to mahogany queens and kings who were esteemed in high regard and held at a prestige of class and undeniable beauty..it is sad that as time went on our narrative shifted due to societies misconception of what the word beauty really means and how judging a book by its cover often times leads to a history of darker toned innocent individuals being wronged along the way and society then wonders "Why yall mad?"
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Good observation!!!!
a long way to go fr!
Right !!! 💯💯💯💯
You are absolutely right girls who looked like Brandy growing up were not called beautiful but the girls who had lighter skin and straighter hair were the pretty ones I had a classmate that looked like Mya the singer all of the boys talked down about all of the darker and lighter girls who didn't look like her it made us feel small and non important.
This was a great video. Good to hear this from a black male perspective, points were made. Colorism is just a branch on the white supremacy tree so unfortunately it’s always going to be something we deal with
Thank You!!!! I just wanted to speak my peace on it. I hope I encouraged or related to someone along the way.
Wow those dark skin models were top notch 😍✨
Right!!!! 😍😍😍
I'm glad a video exists for guys I wondered how many men lost roles because they looked like Morris Chestnut and not Mr Howard .I'm a woman and I know they had singers who were considered handsome or sexy like Christopher Williams women fawned over men like him when they were other male vocalists who were just as talented but not viewed as attractive.
Stating facts in the video!
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This video speaking facts ! My dads side tracked down their ancestors down to the plantations smh I was disgusted on the information that was found out offsprings of the head master but treated like trash my greatgreatgreat(6) grandmother was whipped and beaten because she stole food to feed her children or hair in a wrap to hide that she was a offspring of rape 😔 if people could find out their families history they wouldn’t be so quick to be a colorist or say hurtful things …
WOW!!! Thanks for sharing that
@@TonyTurner yess Thats the main reason why I will never do a 23 and me because of the stories I have heard from my great aunts …I live in the south it’s cotton fields and plantations on every dirt road basically
I agree hundred 100 💯 in this vid
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Great video
I found it interesting growing up how women of other races will be seen with a dark skin man more often than dark skin women with another dark skin man. Shows you colorism is embedded in our community heavy.
Interesting observation !!!!
Embedded in the *WORLD**
So interesting ...
You sho tellin' the truth, Man, 'cause I don't see a wrinkle on your face, the more melanin, the more younger you look, it is true. More melanin keeps the sun from wrinkling the skin. I believe you, it wasn't at the same degree, The Crushing. Which leads me to ask, did you have some lightskin friends? Wow, Man, you are really telling the Truth, because I have witnessed those behaviors from dark skinned guys, in school and at a job. I am laughing 'cause it is So True. Thank you for providing this video about a dark skin man's perspective on this topic. Some people can now get an understanding. Because, most black men are colorist, they have said, "Oh, you're pretty for a dark skin girl" Sad, for them to say this, to a woman who has more melanin to her skin. It is just proof that most black men, think lightskin women are the only ones that are pretty. But, they should not think this way. But, you basically said the most key statement here, "Life is about, finding someone attractive no matter their lite, or brown or dark-brown skin color" 👍👍 Thanks!
Thank You!!!!
Hey Tony the sad part about this vidoe it's true. Colorism is very real It's not only in America and Hollywood it's all over the world. Your right it seems that colorism does effect women more then men. and about that scene in Dreamsgirls that happens more oftern then we think they executives in hollywood will choose someone who is more markable and palatable to push to the mainstream verse a Darker skin female who is just as talented and accactive
Aye I live in New York City!🗽
Anyways, I'm glad you cover this topic bro. Colorism is a huge problem in every community, but most particularly in the black community. It even starts from home. In junior high and high school, I used to get bullied by dark skin girls for my light skin, long hair and my slight Latina accent. It hurts being hated by people from the same community you come from. I also see it in the Afro Latinx community and its sad.
Aye. Colorism is dark skin people being underpriviledged and not respected, etc..... What you experienced was bulliying, not colorism. Just like there is no " all lives matter " .
In fact, I think colorism is on of the reason ds women could bully ls ones bc they are trying to fight back afainst colorism.
@bendemare5270 I'm serious. They would say mean things about my skin color and say things I don't want to repeat. Idk why others hate people for something out of their control. I believe colorism is just plain silly. 😕
@@weeping.angel27 did I stutter?
People like you are the reason why the black community , including mixed ones, have to be wary of ls mixed people and ls people. 🤦🏽♂️
We effin not safe.
It is the responsability of every ls person and person of descent from something pale to Be mindfull of our priviledges. Colorism priviledges for 0 reason people with paler shades. It is not an anectodic " some people did it to me", it is a effing systemic oppression !!! And its effing WRONG !!!!
You not aknowledging that is effing disgusting.
How can people with paler shades of skin color dismantle that bullshit if we ain't banding together to shred that colorist system tf down ????!
weak link !!!!!
The part where you talked about dark skin black male and female celebrities making a change in pop culture recognizing the beauty of melanin richness there’s still a catch that those celebrities are majority of the time non American or first generational American born, not fully black American or descendent of chattel American slavery, not trying to sound like unarmed Johnson or start any diasporas war but bc of American exceptionalism and globalization has put a negative plight against black American culture and history there’s this weird thing that black people outside of that community are seen as better and are viewed through a Eurocentric lens I’ll never forget when a white people said something along the lines that dark skinned black Latinos and Latina are like exotic white people dipped in dark chocolate so cringey 😬. That’s you’ll see more dark skin black supermodels from the Caribbean islands, Africa, Europe etc and barely dark skinned black Americans/DOCAS supermodels on the same level as Naomi Campbell, Tyson Bedford, Alton Mason, as well as the rise of black British actors taking over Hollywood. That’s one aspect of colorism that people barely talk about
That's true!!! See that's why I love reading the comments because we can all put different perspectives out there
@@TonyTurner right being both Jamaican and black American/DOCAS I’ve seen this type of behavior and biasedness for years from dating to the media more recently to even in job interviews and educational systems
It’s so true aswell ..
I wanted you to speak on the gross sisters soooo bad cause are they gonna make them blue black and ashy again 🥵? Great video tho love yo channel
Thank You!!! And you know what, I really forgot to mention them!!! Damn....but I will make another video once the new reboot is released in February
As a brown skin African American Black man of color the most racist thing. I've ever personally experienced was at a gay pride event that a friend, of mine said to me he his friend doesn't like light skin guys. And I'd said I'm light skin and he said according to his standards you are my boy Lamont who I've been friends with for two years now is dark skin and I'm in love with him he is African American Black and I'm also African American Black. As well he is black and beautiful and I'm brown skin but none the less I'm black and beautiful to still thanks for reading my comment.
Love the accent.
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Glad you addressed this from a man's perspective. Because people act as though colorism ONLY affects women. Azealia Banks has made colorist remarks against BM and other BW, but no one calls her out on it because she's a woman.
I feel like when it comes to colorism all the attention is focused of Dark skin and Light skin but nobody every talks about brown skin people especially us brown skin men if have a certain type of phenotype along with having a brown skin tone your blackness is always judged or your seen as in the middle or not black enough people determine what a black person is meant to look like based on stereotypes not all of us is gonna have jet black skin, have wide nostrils or big lips and have "nappy hair" this mentality is ignorant and small minded I always felt kind of jealous of Dark skin dudes because nobody is gonna see you as nothing other than a black person for us who are not dark skin some people may mistake us for being Latino, arab or Indian which I'd partly the reason why I wish I had darker skin and had more afrocentric features
You gotta talk about your weight loss you look amazing!!!!!!
That what I noticed straight away.
Wow. Thank You!!!
This was common in the 80's and 90's most girls liked the lighter men and boys liked the lighter girls I wasn't considered light my lips are thick and my hair is naturally curly boys didn't like me my sister had a envious figure but guys didn't like her darker skin they disliked my body type we wanted to be each other.
It’s interesting hearing this from a man standpoint because they would say oh colorism is a (black)women thing. You bought up a really good point with the age which we see colorism. I feel in the world light/white is consider pure, while darker skin tones are overly lusted after. So, growing up i saw the boy band (b2k, nysnc, Justin bieber, etc) to be attractive. While, the adult women in my family found ( morris chestnut, denzel, 50 cent) to be attractive. So it does start young especially in entertainment.
As a white person, I feel like I should keep quiet about this topic as it is not my lived experience, but I have to say two things.
First, Tony, I know you weren't fishing for compliments, but I think you are gorgeous.
Second, I grew up in South Africa, and I remember as a kid in primary school, my black female friends used to hate on a singer I adored simply because she was dark-skinned. They called her "ugly" because of it. I remember being perplexed as I thought the singer was beautiful (and had an INCREDIBLE voice, I might add - in the realm of Mariah Carey). Their attitude really messed with me for a while. It was only in recent years when I learned about colourism that it made sense. I'm not saying I'm an expert in these matters, but I thought I'd mention it.
You're amazing, Tony. ✌ Thank you for going into these topics.
Wow ‼ Thank you so much for sharing that.
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I have beautiful coworker she is African American she was surprised I told her she is beautiful we started talking she open about her growing up she never loved her skin I told her I understand at my age we never taught to love our selves . Dosnt matter what race you are all are beautiful
What I love about this video is, unlike watching videos on colorism put out by Black women, he didn't take the time to bash Black women, and accuse them of subliminally preferring lighter skinned people, due to self-hate, or for desiring a certain type baby for their phenotype. Growing up, I've never even heard of such a thing until I became an adult, and I began surfing the web. In my mind, children to be born despite their racial, or colorist hardships were simply children to be born. If anything you defended dark skinned Black women WITHOUT bashing light skinned Black women. You acknowledged colorism as the sinister child of racism. Thank you for articulating this video with a variety of subjects that needed to be explored. In courage you made transparent your openness and vulnerabilities to cover these topics for discussion. Finally, maybe Europeans felt that way concerning your perceived kind decorum, because of the contribution that all Black movie producers put out: Ex. Menace To Society/Boys In The Hood/New Jack City/Etc.. The stereotypes have always been there, but White American private gossip, and on screen visualizations assist in enforcing it!
I notice that nobody ever talks about "Brownskin" men being invisible in the black community- Growing up, light skin men were the most desirable group of black men that girls wanted but as black girls gotten older, they went after darkskin men because they feel that darker skin men are more masculine, dominate, aggressive and the protectors, while light skin men were views as feminine, weak and soft- Brownskin black men are just non-exist in the black community- we also had to do certain stuff to gain attention- Based on my experiences, brownskin men are the coolest out of light skin and darkskinned men
I left that in my pinned comment. I could've made a whole segment about that. Being considered "in the middle"...and my observations on that too.
@@TonyTurner Could you make a video on "Brownskin" black men? I would like to know your thoughts about that.
My first boyfriend was darker but very handsome with deep set dimples and hazel colored eyes he didn't wear contacts but silly ignorant people said men with his skin color don't have eyes that color smh 😒.
Was he your best bf
In the field I work in my partner is a white man and I’m a brown skin woman and we have to talk sometime to our peers. And when he would say something everything would be fine but if I say something to them… oh it’s the way she said it she rude she has a attitude. It’s the way she looks. And I would say it the same way he would be I never get respect or they try to label me as a angry black woman. And that would really hurt me because they just saying it because the color of my skin.
Wow!!! We really have a long way to go but you know your intentions and that's all that matters. Some people just can't handle strong personalities but that's their problem. All you can do is be YOU 💯👏🏿
As a black person we absorb the energy and blonde hair reflects it. That's why it was so powerful to be black and blonde in Egypt times.
And by the way..... everyone is trying to be like us. Why is that😂?
But dark skin black men always were on top in my mind they normally viewed light skinned guys are weak or odd I’m European and in my country you’d be shocked at the things people feel comfortable saying to me because of what they perceive me to be because most fair skinned blacks tend to be biracials!!!
Wow. Thanks for sharing your perspective!!! It's interesting to know how it is internationally
I feel like we started to view light skin men as weak as we grew but when we were in school they were the ones who were desired.
Dark skinned guys deffo do face colourism.
It makes the in-fighting and gender wars vicious.
U know my bro am a light skin guy and a lot of this colorism videos are mostly of envy but you're not envy or a jealous person i like your confidence so GOD bless u bro i wish all the to u
Thank You!!!
When you cut to that first Latino guy, I involuntarily let out a "Mmm"
I'm just proud to be lightskin Period♥️💯‼️
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I can’t really say I’ve experienced colorism per se, but then again, I’ve been going back and forth on wanting to be either light skin and dark skin. I lean more on the brown skin type, but these days, I’d give anything to be a dark skin Wesley Snipes because like the old saying goes blacker the berry sweeter the juice.
Im a mid color black woman from the Caribbean, i said mid because im a mix if my light skinned mother and dark father. I dont understand when guys say light skinned guys were favored by girls over the darker guys because i personally looove the darker skin men. The darker the more masculine and attractive i find you. My nephew came out light skinned and he says bkck girls prefer the darker guys. The darker girls have a harder time finding someone because all the guys want lightskins for the "status".
As a darker-skinned person, I never faced colorism I'm like Sza or Chilli from TLC skin complexion some people say I’m brown skinned which I don’t care if am brown or dark cause I'm am confident and my skin complexion regardless but I think as a darker skinned person I never faced colorism because I have 4a type curly hair mixed with 3c type curly hair so people tend to not care for my skin complexion cause I have features that are usually labeled “Lightskin features” hopefully this makes sense but the main point is usually most darker skin people only face colorism whenever they don’t live up to the European beauty standard like I have an East African nose and somewhat loose curly hair so I think that’s why I don’t face colorism like if you look at Chilli from TLC vs Kelly Rowland they would most likely say Chilli is prettier simply because she has loose curly hair while Kelly haves more of a 4c type curl pattern I think all darker skinned people face colorism but usually us darker skinned guys and also girls who have loose hair and a skinner nose while having darker skin have it easier than a darker skin person with a more wider nose and a 4c curl pattern.
East Africans are mixed with Arabs…they are not black like west African Bantu peoples. Chili is mixed race,,,,either she is biracial or multigenerational mixed…meaning mixed race parents. Black people with strong west African features face the most racism. If you are mixed people generally find you easier on the eyes. Mixed race people tend to be viewed as more attractive, smarter, and easier to get along with. It’s a belief many hold.
@@PsychicMedium4747 you completely over looked what I said did I ever say anything about what she was mixed with I said us darker skinned people with European features usually have it easier I know chilli is mixed she's 25% indian and 75% black but I am talking about complexions not people ethnicity and mixed people don't have it easier actually they have it harder the mean point is if you are dark with European features you most likely would have it easier even a lighter skinned person with a wide nose and bigger lips will get discriminated it all depends on your facial features 😂
@@ushercrave basically, if you don’t have black features you are given more advantages. Most people that have nonblack features are mixed somewhere in their gene pool.
@@PsychicMedium4747 black features aren't just big nose and full lips btw Mexicans come that way also as well as latinos
@@ushercrave there are different types of African tribes… I get that . Point is, west African Bantu people are the people that were brought to America and the consistent features are dark skin, broad noses 4 c hair, and fuller lips. Why are you acting like it’s a bad thing? It’s the truth. Your mere response denotes that it is a bad thing,
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I can't stand colorism, but as a Brown Skin Black Man I haven't directly experienced it. I always found the light skin vs dark skin thing divisive and dumb.
Just a sidebar: Looney Toons and Merry Melodies cartoons were not initially children cartoons and they were played in theaters at the premiere of films.
You probably never heard of her but popped by cherry said the same thing you said at 21:00
I'm not mixed but I'm light brown skin I'm in a mix I am mixed with a few that probably why but i find the light skin vs dark skin really dumb like in the end were all black maybe your lighter but were Still black now dark skins are getting the reconigtion they deserve thanks to our queen zendaya
Bro interesting video. Black is dark skin. Light skinned are mixed race…either biracial or multigenerational mixed. I do agree mixed race people have always been treated better than black people. It’s because mixed race are part something else,,,and whites see them as less of a treat. Latinos are mixed too…the guy that has green eyes and gold hair is mixed race.
Thank You!!! Yes growing up and learning about it, I know it now. I was speaking about how I viewed it back in middle school/high school. Discussing it in a simplistic way most ppl would at least identify with or know where I'm coming from.
@@TonyTurner great video….would love to be a guest on your show and talk about it in depth.
Tony you is definitely a snack 😉 believe me. I like my men chocolate 🍫
Just now seeing this. Thank You!!! ❤
I've never experienced colorist myself im brown not super dark or light. I also didn't grow up around many blxck people so that may be why.
Most likely. I meant to talk about that too. Being a mid brown skin tone
Tony Turner right. Great video though man interesting to hear your perspective
Amazing video brother
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I look at Neyo's second wife and the woman she left and it got me thinking
Yeah! many BW don't want to admit there attraction for LSBM. It's taboo and it's so funny when they try to say BW not feeling LSBM when most of us have all BW of all shades and races hitting on us. It's really comical. It's a secret that us LSBM don't tell. Believe me, if you are an attractive LSBM, you get hit on by all women of all complexion and race. And LSBM also know the deal with BW that say they don't date LSBM. We know it's because you don't like the competition it's bring because when we walk in together, we both are getting look at and they don't like that heat, especially LSBW. It's freaking hilarious that people think we don't know what's going on. All LSBM know, we just don't talk about it.
Not gonna lie, growing up in New York even as a lighter Black girl, I always felt basic/ugly cause I didn't have the curly hair, light skin, etc.
Even as children and teenagers, we saw how we got treated compared to others with different features.
It’s because this whole thing is in itself anti-black. Not just skin tone, but ALL black features. That’s why even in media, just a lightskin black woman wasn’t good enough, they had to go for biracial women who hit the “jackpot” in that sense who had light eyes, loose curly hair AND the skin. I’d even go as far to say sometimes the nose as well. It is about proximity to whiteness and really shows that a huge percentage of black people are still mentally colonized to view whiteness as superior. Maybe it’s a generational curse because not many have been willing to break it.
I totally get you about feeling basic part as a lighter black person. Cause even next to the white people, (women) you STILL weren’t white enough.
@@ca678.4yup it’s not just about skin! Dark exoticals get praise too the ones with chocolate skin and type 2 hair
The original definition of colorism by Alice Walker defined it as "prejudicial or preferential treatment of same-race people based solely on their color." I would love to hear how the Black community in particular has made you feel this way, as a dark-skinned Black man.
Side note: If you're not seen as part of the community or on friendly terms, it is considered impolite to use tu quieres, instead of used quiere. That's probably why they were laughing. Flattering, but not polite to someone who may see you as an outsider. I'm sure some do appreciate it though.